Slay the Spire 2*BONK BONK BONK BONK* GET SLAMMED GET SLAMMED
>>736379371What's the point in making a sequel that is identical to the first game? There are 0 new mechanics therefore 0 reason to buy it.
>>736379497What's the point of sucking cocks? You seem well equipped to answer such a question.
Let's enjoy the no new mechanics and characters together. steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245185252812/76561198030802028
>>736379497>What's the point in making a sequel that is identical to the first game?
>when piercing wail is bottom card of your deck
>>736379497darkest dungeon 2 is that way bud
>>736379497>that is identical to the first game?it's different
>>736379931If only, anon. If only.Darkest Dungeon 2 is a big steaming pile of shit.
Just had an amazing Knife Trap, I will never doubt that shit againAlthough I did nearly die to kaiser crab because I couldn't turn around thanks to fan of knives lel
They shoulda added like atb from final fantasy to slay the spire 2 and make it have visual novel and gacha mechanics
just had a quite fun exhaustclad run. that piece of heart relic saved me so many times.
FUCK
>>736381124Literally all 3 of those are viable
>>736381124Snecko or Pandora are S+ tier run winnerFUCK Velvet faggot choker, remove that trash
>>736381174>velvet chocker>viable
>>736381124Only good ancient, apart from the guy that says you need more weapons.
>>736381174>>736381181Pandora's isn't gonna do anything for me and I'm playing a 0 cost deck so the other two are actively detrimental. Just bad luck this time around
>>736381317Do you not have even 3/4 strikes/defends?
>>736381181Box is rng central or useless if you already pruned all strikes and defends. How is it a run winner? Its as much as run winner as something like parasol.
>>736381441That's a big fucking IF, my man.
>>736381441>takes your shitter cards and turns them into objectively better cardsHow is that bad unless you literally added 0 block cards to your deck
>>736381626Because a lot of cards aren't better?
>transform a card, get uproar>fuck it, play on>first card reward is sunderI really got further with this run than I thought I would.
>>736381732in most cases it's a lateral move at worst. choker is a death knell if you rely on a lot of plays and snecko is as well unless you built for it.
>>736381489There are multiple events that target strikes and defends and if you have been hitting shops you have already pruned quite a few. If you have been pruning ANYTHING you have been reducing them down at least a bit.
Pottery
>>736381732>a lot of cards aren't better?What did he mean by thisYour card count is the same, and what cards are worse than a strike or a defend?
>>736381824If there was any way to control transform i might agree but you can get a lot of cards that are worse for whatever deck you have probably already locked in at that point than strikes or defends. Yeah, it CAN be great but it's a complete 100% gamble.
>>736381382All I had left was an upgraded strike and a defend with replay. Like it improves my deck slightly but it would've been nice to get Biased Cognition or something instead
>>736381978The most likely bad outcome is that you get something not terribly useful, which is already true for strikes and defends for most decks. The odds of you getting something somewhat to quite useful are better than the odds of you getting any true bricks.
>>736382021Then yes, I can agree in your very narrow scenario of 2 cards to Pandora and zero cost spam, Darv gave you a bad roll.But those relics would be a dream for most runs.
>>736382032And how is that a run winner?
regular floors shouldn't tax your hp when there are no good ways to heal.the payoff is a common card roll and what 15 gold?you get essentially nothing so you should not have to pay to advance through them.if you are going to tax per floor give me 50 gold per encounter to buy a fucking potion.also shops should have the card upgrading section not rest sites if you are expected to rest consistently as your only source of healing in the game.
>>736381963Every forge card.
>>736381217When are you honestly playing 6 or more cards a turn outside shivs, discard or souls? It’s always been a good relic with no downside for the right deck
>>736382468for me personally whenever im running a deck which wants that thing in its never offered but the moment i am playing a multi card a turn deck it will show its face, smugly taunting me.
>>736382442sometimes common cards are what you need
all player numbers should be doubled.it is actually kind of impressive how consistently bad cards are across the board when they make shit that does 3 or 4 damage against enemies that easily have 50x that amount.>just buy 10 cards to make this do 6 damage insteadBORING!
>>736382468>When are you honestly playing 6 or more cards a turnwhenever I pop an offering
Been replaying slay the spire 1 for comparison and I think the biggest upgrade the sequel has over the original is the introduction of ancients and how their relics are incredibly more varied than the original boss relics and the removal of cards that were too OP or too Jank (Wraith Form, Searing Blow, Hello World, Dual Wield (yes I know some of these are still in the game but they aren't in the standard pool anymore))And the think what I dislike the most is that there's no act 4 boss, this game has been in development for over 5 years, was it so fucking hard to at least repeat the heart as a placeholder?
>>736382635not really past act 1.maybe the start of act 2 but act 2 and 3 enemies can be harder than act 1 elites for worse rewards.it is actually ridiculous how weak shops are.the restock relic should just be how it fucking works and all the costs of cards should be like the discounted prices considering they sell a common fucking card for the value of 6+ floors of gold.
>>736383138>not really past act 1.counter point - Bloodletting
>>736379497My STS2 experience has been:First start playing it and I can't stop cumming, everything feels betterAfter a few games of it, what the fuck is this shit relics seem weaker it's like the shaved off the peaks of the fun what am I even doingAfter many games of it, this is better than STS1 in every way and the unbelievers must be killed so that the light of the new dawn can shine upon the faithful
>>736382468He's playing Defect so maybe he's got some feral shit going on. Would also explain why he doesn't want snecko
Once again I'm becoming retarded, unlearning everything about the game and miserably failing A10 runs left and right
>>736383586Once I beat A10 with everyone, I'm going back to A7
>Click on random vtuber stream of the game>She's fucking hard stuck at ascension 0>OH YEAH YOU LIKE HOW BIG MAH DECK IS UH UH UH OH YEAH IM THORNY BABY LOOK AT MAH THORNSWho the fuck is this shit for?
>>736383872>Click on random vtuber streamYou're part of the problem.
>>736383986I just like day watching social rejects what can I say, I would never give a streamer my money and that's what counts
>>736383673It's probably for the best. In STS1 I did and enjoyed the A20 climb and heart kills and then I fucked off back to A0 and doing dailies since goofy memeing around with the modifiers is fun. The leaderboards also didn't seem hacked at the time so I'd feel like a swinging dick if I'd make it into the top scores, but I'm assuming whenever they get STS2's scoring functional it's still going to be completely fucked for placing on the dailies board. Actually that is one thing I hope they change in 2, if you were chasing score in 1 there was a LOT of fucking obtuse shit you'd try to do any given run and I hated it
>>736379708Slowest infinite ever. GG lads. Another go?
>all of my cards cost 0>get the "make strikes cost 0" relic thing from the scarecrow ladyGive me all for one card in this run and I will submit thee as a good game.you have a chance to earn my grace mega crit. do not ruin it.
Behold, an AI chatbot mod. This is exactly what everyone was asking for.https://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/379I fucking hate AIfags so much it's unreal
>>736379708Click the button my guy, we won.
This one was ridiculous. Never got below 50% HPHad to deal with Soots because all the Granny rewards were SHITYes Hellraiser again. Daring today, aren't I?
>feral thats a start now give me all for one.
The classic bullet time + nightmare + snecko eye feels even better now with brilliant scarf.
>>736384365Best I can do is give you lightning and dark orbs for the rest of the run
>>736384325A valid use for AI in art is for tongue-in-cheek shitposting so I don't see the issue. Looks like bad translations from foreign language media which can be entertaining.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245185252812/76561198030802028Let's go around again
>>736384325kino mod. i love aifags
>>736384325>The absolute buffoon wanted to tie it to gameplay mechanics instead of just having a portal following you around with Neow cheering you on and optionally serving as a mid-spire gloryhole
>tfw 2 parries carried me to the endwtf i was just memeing
>watch a bit of Jorbs because I want to git gud>he almost never takes damage on hallways>he even kills act 1 elites taking like 5 damageStreamers have seeded accounts that guarantee good draws and rewards. Prove me wrong
>>736384325The important question is can I use this to do erotic RP with Neow?
>>736384521:(
>>736384330big hug is one of the best A2 ancient relics...
Game has been fucking me in the ass like crazy>turbo sword regent run with a few forges, AoE sword and multhit carried by a lot of dex, bulwarks and easy recursion, easily get to 5 dex every fight after setup>can draw 14 cards on turn 1 so I have no issue on hallway fights>very easily clap acts 1 and 2 killing multiple elites on each act>go to act 3>it's doorman (and the experiment)>found 0 (zero) copies of the card that moves the sword from anywhere to your hand no matter how hard I looked>fuck>letsseemybonuses.jpeg>tanx>"gain 1 energy but powers cost 1 more" (on my deck with like 6 powers)>"when you kill an elite upgrade 4 cards">"the fucking whistle">t-thanks>take the whistle because I have pael's meat that gives you 4 energy on turns 3+ maybe it does something>forced elite one or two floors before the boss on every path because of course>fuck>get the "remove exhasut from a card" and say eh, "let's remove exhaust from the stun">easily stroll my way to the forced elite>It's literally the only bad matchup for my deck that needs the sword in hand: the three niggas that exhaust your cards>lose like 45HP in the process>heal>fight doorman>bottom deck EVERY forge and every power except the power that gives the sword AoE so my turn 1 is almost nothing>draw the stun (that I happened to remove exhaust on) on the turn that doorfaggot exhausts your cards>barely make it out there alive>fight the experiment>once again>the last 4 cards of my deck are all powers>somehow manage to draw the stun 3 times in a row while I manage to slowly deploy my powers>turtle up while the sword grows big and escape the fight with 2 hpwhy does every single run have to be like this
>>736384770It’s too late here in Europe
>>736379497The experience of playing 2 is much better than 1, I tried to go back to 1 and I just can't do it, plus necro and regent are fun, even when regent is a mess
>>736384325I remember a sts1 "ai" mod that would show ratings for the cards and expected damage taken on a fight and such. That was pretty cool.
>>736384925>game gives you a good challenge but you win>complainwhat the fuck do you even want
>no all for onei saw a tiktok of them releasing the game and I noticed at least 3 women in the video and it adds up for sure.fucking incredibly shit dogshit fag ass game. WELL GET READY FOR 10X 4+INTANGIBLE BECAUSE THATS WHAT THE FORNIGHT KIDS LIKE I GUESS
>>736383872If she had a loli avatar, me, shes for me.
>>736379371I feel like I never have enough block with Regent nor do I feel like I do a ton of damage with him. Feels like i always need very certain cards for him to work. I otherwise am I always doing stuff but nothing that really stands out or keeps me alive.
>>736384870Yeah but it fucks up the draw needed for Hellraiser
mmmmmm im being "challenged" now so goodmmmmmmmmmm wouldnt want this to be too easy mmmmm nice more than half my health in one turn while having 700 fucking health oooohhh so good this is what made me fall in love with slay the spire hire more asian women with glasses to fuck up the game because they dont understand what makes something appealing because theyre fucking subhuman mmmmmmmmmm IM POSITIVE RATINGGGGG
>a0 seethe
>play on a8 to seethe about 10x4 but also you have ascender's bane in your deck while theyre nigger-40ing your health barno thanks
>>736385329Quit bitching, you have fairy. Play it out, and then bitch.
>>736385039it'd be nice for some variables to not be the worst case scenario for a changegetting pegged by rng only to win by impossibly miraculous draw order doesn't feel particularly fulfilling either
>5th floor and I have to abandon because the game is being intellectually dishonestin too deep for a refund sadly
I copied my deck with that one event but I did not read the fine print and only realized the curse demolishes you next combat. I still made it to the end because of pantograph but it was very close. It was neat that fresnel lens buffed all my copied defend cards though.
>>736385790i wish you'd uninstall or stop posting your dogshit screencaps at least
>>736384647>parry
>>736385839i wish you'd hire less women to work on this game because youre giving me stockholme syndrome towards timeeater this game is so fucking bad holy SHIT
>>736385894You are aware you can simply stop playing it if you are not enjoying your experience?
Less bitching more playing. On betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245194878862/76561199486452220
>>736381273I like the big tiddy bitch who gives you innate Apotheosis. And the floating eel guy is cool.
>>736385882How do you get multiple swords
>>736386108Nightmare or dual wield?
>>7363859922/4
>>736386108Exhausting then using Summon Blade spawns multiple copies into your hand
>>736382468Anything that plays cards automatically or replays cards gets fucked by card limitsOr if you have like any energy + draw cards in your deck at all
>>7363859923/4
>>736386331Oh that shit retrieves it from exhaust too? Interesting
ahh....... finally. the perfect deck
>>736385837If you have the relic that gives 15 gold on adding a card, mirror deck dupe event can give you hundreds of gold instantly
>>736385837That curse is so bad I really don't see any benefit to nuking your deck like that unless you're already cloning Crescent Spears or something
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>>736386975Just exhaust it lmao
>>7363871172/4
>>736386702almost threw by drawing bad luck too many times
how do i get to 50% winrate in a10? silent only btw
Lord's Parasol is the most kino relic and only redditors obsessed with streamers and le optimization think it's bad
tfw vuln bot
>>736387361The queen can fuck off.
>>736387820Pick good cards, make good decisions
>>736388386thank you bro just won my first a10 run
I love shivmaxing
i hate shivmaxxing
>>736362796Wraith form is still busted, its just Silent is way stronger than before so its not as necessary
I enjoy a moderate amount of shivs
The act 3 bosses in 1 and 2 are so fucking bad, it felt like they were designed by theory only redditors>oh my science you MUST make the boss test your deck against all permutations>it NEEDS a gimmick>you cannot just let the player use their deck, oh no my science, it must completely fuck the deck because uhhhhh it must
This weaker combats at the start of each area thing, is it counted based off of floors or actual battles?
>>736382468>no downside for the right deckhmmm...so there is a downside for the wrong deck?
Tiny Campsite is actually disgusting in multiplayer, goddamn
>>736388971if you want to spank a dummy they made an event just for you
>>736388971I wonder what its like to think everything ever wrong in all your life are because of "redditors".
>>736389097>oh my SCIENCE the act 3 boss should have a million gimmicks and your deck should mean nothing>this is because in my game design course by professor goldberg he said that drives maximum engagement
>>736388971I actually hate all the boss/elite fights in sts2
What in the fuck am I supposed to versus vantom on ironclad? I feel like I barely ever manage to kill him even if I take some dedicated cards like sword boomerang. I just can't get through him fast enough and I can't adequately block him while also dealing damage. Feels so much easier on defect and silent because those have easy acces to weak and pop his buffers far easier.
>>736389253Just make your deck better and draw better bro :)Just magically get the perfect deck bro :)Just somehow magically draw properly and never, EVER, question the almighty devs
I’ll be honest chat door went from easy to fucks you over randomly rng to easy to hard again
>dude this random enemy should only take 20 damage per turn>this is good because>ummmm>...uhh......>because it's totally epic to not play
>>736389435Just doom em’ sis
lmao get fucked nerds
>>736389475>oh my WEIRSCIENCE doom activates after enemy attacks because uhhhhhhh>even though poison activates before attacks>doom activates after attacks because...ummmm
>>736389047It's the first 3 floors of Act 1 and the first 2 floors in Act 2/3After that you can get the totally not elites like Obscura thrown at you
>>736389530just use end of days sis
>>736388873>Silent is way stronger than beforeHow? Sly doesn't scale into the late game unless you go infinite or near it, and you don't get that option every run.If you don't get a broken rare and build around it, her cards are pretty mediocre and decks just don't come together like they did in 1 because several critical tools were removed.
>>736389253Get any free/autoplay attack or multihits you can, or a lot of blockEven if you have to fight through two whole cycles of his pattern he's not hitting hard enough that it should completely fuck you
Leading strike went from dogshit to pick it when you see it btw
>>736389651i hope you're baiting
This was a ridiculous run. At the start of act 3 i basically became immortal. The single change in Burrowed time skyrocketed Dance Macabre to s+ tier. All the damage i took was because i accidentally ended a turn and experiment smacked me for 35
>>736389505The turn one strat.If you kill the minion turn one the queen still takes a second turn off to debuff you, that's pathetic, bitch.
>the game is easy bro just keep savescumming until you get the instant gigarape infinite deck broLMAO
gg, love big sword.
>>736389530because doom cards come with higher numbers by default, you're retarded
I really don't think anyone is saying the game is easy. It's just okay for some games to be hard.
>>736390196>NO I HAVE TO WIN EVERY TIME EVEN IF I'M SHIT OR THE GAME SUCKS
>>736389840Great explanation thanks.
wow guys what a weak class. super bad.
we owned
>>736390280A game being poorly designed isn't actual difficultyTake games like 絆地獄たち or 怒首領蜂 大往生, games that have immense gameplay depth and density, nonstop difficulty and completely fair and transparent designMeanwhile, Spires inherent goofy design because of it being a hideous mixture of card game and RNG slot machine with relics, just make every run feel like a dice roll, it lacks density and just has self serve difficulty
>>736390126Why give a robot food.He can't poop it out. :(132 hp3 buffersTrue tank.
Can a niggy get some fucking Pommel Strikes
>>736390432>shmupniggerjesus christ
>>736384325AI is the future can’t wait for games to actually be good again
BASED MORKCHADThese faggots don't know about pure nitaku resource snowing
Doing another! On beta.steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245199987952/76561199486452220
power
>>736389991And that's a wrap.>Imbued decisions decisions>Act 3 pandora's box that gave me Comet, Big Bang and Tyrannya run for the ages
>>736389253You really, really need to get lucky and drop/buy a thorns potion specifically for that fight. The one that deals 9 damage per turn is also very useful on him, but generally if you see him at the start you should be developing a plan for him from the get-go. Flame Barrier is an instant take if you happen to see it as well.
me likey>>736390830'uge
>>7363907703/4!
gg. Love me Tiny Campsite>Rest, Upgrade, Mend, Cook
GG fellas
>>736389253clad has a lot of access to multihits and is encouraged to take them because he has a lot of access to str.
>>736389253>>736389320>1 minute apart:)
>>736387117GGs on the classic character run.
>>736391184It's fascinating how modern gaymers never, ever, dare criticise devs for design decisionsThey're all weak, pathetic, submissive sheep
>>736391252all you do is bitch and whine and cry all day wdym?
whenever i get the sunken treasury event and have the option to get greed for 300 gold i pog irl
>>736391252nah I think current doornigger sucks, but vantom is easy as every class
>>736381124I guess pandaros box might not be that useful that late into the game and if youve already built a low cost deck instead of loading up on 3 cost cards sneckos eye might not do anything for you
tiny mailbox insults me and I don't know why
>>736379497I have to admit it is extremely unambitious, but I'd probably take the safe money in his shoes too, especially after the easy Unity PR win set you up to be an indie sweetheart. The most damning thing is that he reinvested in the same artists who spent several years of salary producing the same low-fidelity, janky style with better animations.
>>736389651shivs are broken, sly is broken, poison is broken, i even had a couple hyper defensive abrassive decks go broken.hope that helps.
take your big numbers and shove them up your fucking ass nigger.500 card deck every relic a nigga could buyfuck youevens defectodds silent
>>736390770Rehosting!steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245200972339/76561199486452220
>>736391802>shivs are brokenHow?>sly is brokenHow?>poison is brokenHow?inb4 I got a borken rare and built around it
>>736389651players who actively track their winrates have noted that they lost about 8% of runs where they pick acrobatics at any point in the run.
nobody in the history of agartha has ever taken this
>>736392113It's better than you'd think if you go aggro. Resting is less bad than it was in StS1.
>>736392113ive gotten it once or twice. Its just something you pick if you truly do not care about the other choices
>>736392113
>>736390296sly isn't something you usually hard spec into, it simply supplants silent's draw/discard which you already want to go for since they're found in her common pool and enables her to find the cards she actually wants to play each turn.most of her key uncommon powers from 1 were unchanged: even if you don't find a rare, having footwork, well-laid + wail, etc. remains equally as powerful.in terms of rares, cards like afterimage are still amazing, new cards like murder/corrosive can become your wincon with proper energy + draw, and knife trap turns shivs from good to busted, especially with afterimage/envenom/shuriken/kunai. poison got nerfed from catalyst -> accelerant but it's still incredibly viable. master planner is just free infinite guaranteed after second deck cycle if you have some prepared/acros.i think your problem is that you're reversing the process: you don't need to find a rare and then start picking cards, you pick decent consistent options and then pivot as you find potential wincons. silent is able to bet on certain cards that might not work out because if it doesn't, you can just discard it.
>>736392113It's honestly super underrated. Restmaxxing is great in this game and this just makes it even better.
>>736392113literally me a run ago
Is it me, or is Regent feel all over the place with his cards? I find it difficult to get a lot of synergy with his cards.
>>736392527im new/bad, but...it seems like even if youre (getting good rng and) grabbing his big value cards and mostly making sense, you can just slip on a banana peel and wipe
>>736391081big punch
>>736392113I'm a sleepy little guy so I always take this
>>736392527He's the least put together out of the gang, and there's a reason he got sweeping buffs patch oneGive it time.
Shivs are so back
>>736392681People have records of them doing like 100 A10 in a row. The game is designed so that 99.9% of runs can be won if played right.
>>736392527Im willing to give it time because people are still warming up to exactly what a regent deck is supposed to look like, but a lot of his data is that he flips between having the most insane decks and taking 0 damage elites and bosses in early acts when no one else is even close, to being absolute dogshit and taking 30 damage to hard act 1 hallway fights when everyone else is taking 8. in a way he seems very similar to early watcher before people solved watcher.
What is the lobby etiquette for these threadsDoes everyone play on ascension 10?? im thinking about joining some lobbies here
>>736393054how good is the new blade of ink, it reads very strong
>>736393147that's eri potter
>>736393082what my feedback means, is that there are too many wrong choices
>>736393147Nah we a0 because some shitter always joins and we suck at thr game
>>736393147If the ascension isn't called out, it's probably A0So if you want an A10 say so but honestly, I think most people want to multi to relax from tiring singleplayer climbsSex with Kanoe. Eri.
>>736393054>no kunaiIt's over.
>>736393172Its very good due to how flexible it is, but of course other rares are strictly more powerful.
>>736393172It's a supplemental rare, won't break the game but a nice add to contribute consistent shivs to the knife trap and less need for NeutralizeIt's ok+
>>736393131After playing like 10 hours with him, he feels like a very late game kind of character. Sovereignty Blade build and Star build are the only builds ive had moderate success with but thats only when I get really lucky with getting certain cards. Void Form and Big Bang imo are easily his best cards. But he seems to have a lot of cards that I frankly dont know what to do with or are just seem really niche. On top of having to juggle two resources, I often find myself kind of just playing solitaire more often then not usually dealing little damage and trying to get as much armor as I can. Even when you play all the cards you need and build up your Sovereign Blade or stars, itll often feel too late or not enough.
in the three knights elite why do people hit the mage knight first? ethereal knight hits you for 17 next turn while ballsack knight is also hitting you for 2x10? i find the fight much more smooth hitting ethereal first and killing him turn 2
>>736393763Doesn't mage knight hit for like 40 turn 3? Or maybe turn 4. I focus him because don't touch my upgrades, bro
>>736393763mage knight takes my upgrades which generally hurts me more than the ethereal does.
I get that it was 4 player and a3, but I think I'm starting to understand why they increased the price of card removal.
My Strike+ is going to be exhausted?!?!?Kill that middle knight now!!!
here is a cool combo i discovered
die
I fucking hate bridges
>>736394820same desu
>exactly 1 hpsavescummed
>>736394758look out boys. Savescamming is back in town
fossil stalker in underdocks that gets 3 strength every time he hits you is so fucked for necro. i always lose a gorillion hp to this faggot. start with silver crucible, fuck up the eels in four turns with 0 damage taken, then walk into this faggot and lose 24 because necro wants to block with osty and that just gives him strength so hes already impossible to block on turn 2 and beyond. strong start where i might have fought 3 elites is now limping and dodging every fight on 5 hp left because of this faggot then one more bricked draw after
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>>7363955963/4
Infested Prism is kind of weird as an Act 2 enemy design-wise. Other than the name nothing about it really seems related to the Hive. Even something like Phrog would make more sense purely from aesthetics
>>736395596FVLL
>>736391924Shivs scale in many many many ways and you're almost guaranteed a payoff in some form because not only does Silent have a bunch of payoffs there's a bunch of good neutral shit for shiv too. Even fucking panache is good for shivSly is broken because some hand filtering is useful even without extra benefit but as soon as you're playing cards for free the rape train has left the station Poison is broken because it's good extra damage that ignores enemy block and triggers before the enemy acts. Even without big dick poison payoffs it's good to have a poison dagger and/or noxious brap in almost any Silent deck because they're almost never something you'd want to cut. And when you are going hard on poison it can rape bosses harder than just about anything barring an infinite cheese deck. Silent's great at everything
I can consistently win with every character other than Ironclad up to A9my Ironclad is still stuck in A0what the fuck is wrong with me
Wow I never noticed he got bigger the more hp he got
>>736395819>get Envenom>your Shiv Build is now a powerhouse poison build too and you can pick up Accelerant and/or Mirage for even more poison powerSilent is truly busted
>>736392113It's not like it's some sort of super secret sleeper OP pick, but it isn't bad. "Top players" have a different perspective on it and max HP as a concept because>Well, I just wouldn't get hit :))
>>736395932A lot of loyalty for a hired hand
Is this shit ever worth it? I only seem to get it at the start of the run when most of my deck is strikes and defends
>>736395736I really hope they don't give this guy some sort of infuriating gimmick. It's nice to have a glimmer of hope in the same act as millipede.
Never heard of this game before - why is it so massively successful? It's like 7th highest player count on steam but it looks like a cheap mobile game, what is the appeal that I'm not seeing?
>>736396392It's fun
>>736396365I usually tap it 2 or 3 times and then dip. Losing max HP reduces the quality of your rests, but having upgraded cards negates a lot of chip damage early on and makes it less likely that you'll need to rest, allowing you to snowball into 3+ upgraded cards early.
>>736396392It's the sequel to the game that codified the "roguelite turn-based deck builder" genre dozens of other indies then copied
>>736396392it's more fun than marathon
Died twice at A6 Ironclad. No idea what I'm doing wrong, as usual
>>736392329I get so goddamn horny over that dumbass tent. It's like the perfect relic, completely by itself it's just good since you can soak a bit more damage in combat/events and keep upgrading your shit. But as soon as you get something that adds additional reasons to visit rest stops you just can't stop cumming over how fucking good the tent is. And it's good for everyone, basically the only time you MIGHT be disappointed to see it is if you're at full life and you're like 1 move away from the rest before the final boss. Love that fucking tent
>>736396584What did you die to?
Have the devs said anything about adding alternate acts for 1-3? I'm still playing the first game until Act 4 is done
>>736392527Your best bet is to just get generic resource gathering cards and maybe a minion card to weed out garbage from your deck until one of the real goals to build around presents itself.You can often have two of his finishers setting up at once, especially Heavenly Drill you can just shove in any deck on the side as long as you can get a +1 energy somewhere.
>>736396365If it hits some Defends early that's not that bad really
>>736396392it's riding off of slay the spire 1, which is very well balanced for high difficulty, so people still play it to try and master it.there are plenty of other indies that are more fun imo, but usually much less balanced compared to sts.
>>736396392Fun, extremely replayable to the point where you can play the game yourself and talk about it and watch videos of it and still regularly get surprised while playing. Also the sort of thing where even if you die and lose a run you probably still had fun doing some dumb shit
>>736396626First failed run was this. Not enough block. Juggling was a bad card. No Hellraiser.
>>736396626Second run was this. Soul Nexus hitting for 43 is garbage
>>736396791They've said they're planning to keep working on alternate zones acts and characters, and only plan to do act 4 much later in development. They weren't totally happy with how they ended up implementing the heart in the original, and want to make act 4 more in-depth this time around.
>>736396908>>736396959Sounds like you do know what you died to
way WAY too many cards broskie. Splash is broken idk when you got it but you should have been aiming to keep replaying it as fast as possible. fuck is that solar strike doing in your deck. Adding trash to your deck just to slightly increase the damage of 1 card is ridiculous
>>736396791I mean it's already got alternate acts but I wouldn't be surprised if they add more. I think they said at one point they wanted the player to be able to "Path acts" like choosing what your act 2 would be out of 3 options, but given we just roll into acts now I don't know if they'll even really bother. But I wouldn't be surprised if they add more acts into rotation, and of course some act 4 near the end of EA. Hell, there are already a bunch of empty epoch rewards which very well could be for more ancients and/or acts
>>736396959>>736396908Anon, I haven't played enough ironclad to say what you're doing wrong, but these are the same image.
>>736397150Fixed
>>736392329worst use case scenario this is still a good one nigger.>kill the queen's pet that does 30 damage per turn(this is a misplay according to trans roguelike game developers)>can only play more than 2 cards if I draw - draw a card cards.>boss STILL does BIG NUMBER DAMAGE while this happensokay I'll admit. I was wrong. i just need to play the cringe DEI sequel better. im not GETTING BETTER CARD good enough and im not DOING 500 DAMAGE A TURN WHILE BLOCKING 70 good enough...I kneel.
>>736397107Being able to choose an act would be way too much of a problem IMO, we'd just end up with "nobody ever picks act X" situations
>>736379497You might be stupid or too young to know anything
>>736397201>42
Anyone down for multiplayer? On betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245207482939/76561199486452220
>>7363975503/4
How do I git gud with my wife?My only win was a crazy poison build that was so good the final boss felt underwhelming since I had over 100dps. I basically lucked into my only win. My biggest issue is deciding what cards/build to go with at the start of a run.
>>736396791We already have two placeholder epochs for new acts
I truly believe Mad Science is getting nerfed some time soon. There's really no reason to go for Attack or Power in that event when you can hit a Skill that costs 1 energy and generates 2 non-conditionally. It's the reason I'm shooting for events in Act 3 now.
>>736397824Card draw and filtering is good with every build so it's almost always good to take it because you can pivot super easily.
>>736397920Events feel much better in this game. Almost always better than going for a combat
>>736398001Exactly, with the exception of Act 2 events are a priority in my opinion because you can get enchants and other broken stuff off of them. (Act 2 has a few events that force you to take bad cards so it's lower priority there)
Just failed a A10 regent run right at the 2nd bossSomeone hold me
>>736397920Even attack isn't bad, can't remember the values but it was solid.
did they change test subject (beta branch)? did it always hit for 30, 40, 50, in phase 2, then like 30, 45, whatever in phase 3??? what the fuck is this shit that is 500 hp i have to get through while it swings for 30+ and it also goes intangible. IS THIS A BUG?
>>736396365if 'upgrade your entire deck' is not better than 3 apparitions you built your deck wrong
>Hidden Gem+>Master Planner>SLY
>>736397920skill is just the reliable because you always choose 2 of 3 and both the gain 2 energy and draw 3 options are good. power with permanently upgrade a card is the best option by far, but if you miss the roll and have to choose between footwork and subroutine it can whiff for a lot of decks.
ANYONE? was it always this insane? it felt off because i was doing so well before this>>736398228
>>736398391The event is only found in act 1. I don't even know what 3 apparitions has to do with this.
>>736379497Nah this guy is right, it feels like an update.
>>736380527Exactly, more of the same is a good thing if the first game is already great
>>736399023I don't think there's been any changes to Test Subject bro.
>>736399049think he's referring to the sts1 event that chops off a bunch of your max hp and gives you 3 apparitions
>>736399190yea, you're right... i guess the last few times i faced it i was basically going infinite and this run was too ethicalGAY BOSS
>>736379497>What's the point of making a new megaman?Imagine being this fucking retarded.
>>736399769>What's the point of making a new megaman?You said it, not me.
someone host
>>736399972You do it and I'll join
someone host with modded characters
>>736399023It's insanely overtuned and getting him with like half of the builds in the game that would otherwise be viable is a death sentence.
>>736400167steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775245211344500/76561198025039689
>>7364004042/4 friends :)we wait YOU
>>736399023It was a change they made in the first beta patch. They changed his second turn during phase 2 in the beta branch to being the 10x multihit, as opposed for the 24(?) damage attack it does in the live version. It means the damage scales an extra turn during the second phase. But the first and third phase are unchanged.
full.. i never get to join these lobbies
>>736400729then amke you make the slut
>>736400729the solution is to make your own lobby to guarantee your spot
>>736379497for how little they changed it's disappointing that it took so longI assume all the development time went into the friendslop mode, and that's what used up all their resources such that nothing else got any time put into it
>>736391128>he has a lot of access to str.More like "had".Limit break and spot weakness are gone, and all we got in return was the meme vuln scaling strength card that top decks so that it can be a useless hand clog 99% of the time.
man, the deck was really coming together and humming nicely and I had energy pots ready to adress energy issues but test subject wanted to cuck me two times from lethal with intangible not to mention drawing 4 burns out of 9 cards in a drawpile dropping me down to 2hp where I couldn't apply weak or block. limped into queen fight with no resources and died. Banshee's Cry was hitting for 110 with lethality, instinct and vulnerable. it was cool.
How to get more consistent with the Defect? I don't feel like they have a ton of must-pick cards to take when compared to like Silent and Regent. None of his commons feel very out outside of like Coolheaded and Hologram and it's hard to get an early card to statstick like most of the other characters.
I'm so fucking bad at the Defect I don't even know how when it's probably the strongest character going by all metrics...My wins with it have mostly been just snowballing into broken stuff.
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>>736401131he has good damage commons like ball lightning, cold snap. the trick with defect is to build some level of defence while ur setting up your orbs/powers, so early block is good on him.I also like to pick compact/iteration even without any synergy, they make a lot of fights easier and you can start a status synergy from that foundation, if offered.Shadow Shield is his best defensive card, Refract solves your AoE needs.
someone needs to make a version of the Livesey walk but with Regent, Ironchad, and Defect
I hate the stupid waterfall I fucking killed your tanky ass already why do I have to block a 40 bomb right at the endShit gimmick
It's bee-over
>try out the game since people won't stfu aboput how good it is>it's boring af
Most fun run I've had so far.Got Ice Lance from Neow and picked up Refract right away. Proceded to grab as many Uproars as possible. Every fight ended by round 2.
>>736393763Imo mage>ball>ghostEthereal is an upside if anything, let him exhaust all the shitty cards you don't want to play. Take out the mage, get your upgrades back and stop him from doing his super move. Once you've done that the fight gets easier.
I'M DOOOOOOMIN
>>736402705Actually the game may be fun
New Doormaker actually sucks ASS
gg friends :)
>>736403225Gg y'all
GG guysCloning Shared Fate+ was an AMAZING idea
Why would you ever pick an act starting power with a debuff? Like no I don't want to lose my first boss chest for an extra strike, kys. Every other run there are choices like that.
>>736403253Yeah, that shit just neutered everyone lol
>>736403225ggI'm glad I grabbed those +energy to everyone, because I wasn't offered literally 1 (uno) focus genner.
>>736379497Realistically it's because the devs wanted to make a bunch of minor adjustments to the game but knew that would create a ton of backlash because people hate change so they just implemented all of their changes on a new product and knew it would sell well because taking that approach avoids every issue that changing the first game would have created. It's a very smart business decision and I'm surprised more devs don't take advantage of retards like that more often.
>>736400932If you click on the patch notes button in game you can actually see internal playtest patch notes going as far back as Feb 2023. Anyway a lot of time had been spent remaking the game in Unity, and then abandoning that and remaking it in Godot.They also spent a lot of fucking time iterating on Necrobinder. Just read pic related, it's talking about a "rework" for her but both the before and after version are totally unlike what we have now. I'd kill to be able to play one of these older Necros because she sounds a lot more interesting.Another fun fact, Necro was in since the earliest patch notes, but Regent was only added in April 2024
>>736403334You mean making everyone buy the game again for a patch with co-op?Very smart indeed.
>>736403275Surprisingly effective. I worked hard to remove all my attacks including the one Blight Strike I foolishly took way back in Act 1 and dedicated the entire run to being "Strength? What strength?" Do nothing except have energy, spam Scourge+ and Grave Warden+, loop my deck, generate as much block as possible especially thanks to Shroud. Problem is that Necro feels like she has ZERO real Doom gen outside of No Escape, and for No Escape you need any and all other Doom gen cards in the first place. It's exactly like how Silent needed Catalyst (with or without Burst) to have real Poison stacks back in STS1.
yo those two robots almost got us
>>736403425I like generating doom by doing literally anything else with oblivion.I once had that paired with sleight of flesh to great effect.If you also had reaper form with those two cards I fear the game might explode.
GG lads thanks for the carryholy shit my deck was so dogshit, couldn't find anything useful at all>>736403657oh yeah, they almost punched us to death
haha it would be crazy if someone hosted a game nowcraaaazy :)
>>736403425>>736403665i think doom itself isnt why you play doom, its to activate the other effects like shroud, sleight, deaths door, the heal relic, etcbecause on its own its not very good
>>736403657take your fucking linksteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775240921814186/76561199486452220
>>736404017>>736403741meant to do this one, just shot a random guy.
>>7364040173/4
>>736403741imegene de smelle
Just had a pretty crazy run on defect that was fun. Metamorphosis+All for one+Scrape. The event that heals you 25 HP in exchange for Metamorphosis completely saved my doomed run and Bing Bong gave me 2 copies. I've done this before in the first game but it feels a lot more powerful in 2 getting stuff like 0 cost ice lances and flak cannons. You can just keep using turbo over and over without ever worrying about the voids. I think I generated multiple flak cannons in every combat and even some 0 cost all for ones.
opinions on multiplayer?i find it quite underbaked for how long it took for the game to come, it's almost more like 4 people playing singleplayer in the same room with a small bit of overlap than actual multiplayerit's just the mobs getting more HP and tossing in a few cards that help other players, i was expecting a lot more interactivity
I fucking love Voltaic, bros
>>736404251Unbalanced as fuck but really fun. They just need to add some multiplayer exclusive enemies and bosses
>>736404251multiplayer is clearly an afterthought just for fun.
>>736403127>Get the Lamp in multiplayer>First use of Flanking is 4x damageDeleted a few elites we got to pull that on
>>736404230hey i just did the same thingscrape is a good card
>>736404251I agree, it needs some changes. My changes:-Every class starts with a unique multiplayer Starting Card-Cards that allow infinite combos not accessible-Shops offer another card that is always a multiplayer card. The colorless uncommon/rare options are never multiplayer cards.-Enemies start with +3 strength
>>736404439Yeah scrape really saved my ass just fishing for the turbos. Much cleaner deck on your run. I wasn't even considering All for one/0 cost stuff until mid way through act 2 when I had to pivot.
Guys, you kill the Eels in multiplayer by focusing a target and breaking through the shield. You can't get enough burst damage to kill if you spread damage.
>>736404710yeah...
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775240923470549/76561198030802028Again.
rehost please :)
>everyone's going to get burnt out of multiplayer before I can afford the gameowari da...
>>736403412So old Necro was like some Paper Mario bullshit where you controlled two characters and could swap who was taking the damage
>>736404657yeah i got the bulk up and feral early in act 1 so i was already leaning that direction then the bird egg bailed me out right before the boss fighti ALMOST didnt take afo off the boss reward too, drill was offered and i fucking love drill, especially with ice cream, lucky i didnt because i didnt end up seeing enough holograms/draw to make it as stupid as the metamorph stuff was anyway
>>736404827>$25holy poorfag
I don't see how anyone could play this game and call it just a patch for the first game. It's a complete sequel with a ton of new shit. You probably barely played the first game and just see the surface level similarities.
>>736404859Yeah, and then newer Necro had her act as more of a proper summoner. I wonder if old Osty could live on even if Necro died, making it a proper dual character sorta deal.
Unceasing top feels so shitty this timeFeels like every enemy shoves a dozen status on your and sometimes you do it to yourself
>>736404251Still haven't played it, probably never will. Don't have interest in playing with random people and I don't know any similar card perverts for filthy disgusting spire slaying. I'm hoping they don't put achievements in there but I know they're gonna and I'm going to have to play some anyway
i don't have a problem with enemies/bosses countering gimmick decks, but i do have a problem with the game being hard enough that i feel like i need to make a gimmick deck just to survive them in the first place, making it a lose/lose
Guys, I just started act 3 and I don't wanna mess up. What exactly do I have to do to trigger this?
>>736405713go to any event
>>736404251It's very boringly done where it's just the same game with crazy scaling and some poorly balanced multiplayer cards.
>>736404710Yeah but this is only if you have enough damage to break the armor. If not, there's no reason not to get some chip damage.
>>736405713First ? space you hit that's not a fight will give you the relic
>>736404540>-Enemies start with +3 strengthKill yourself
for each character what are the "always add this card to your deck in almost every situation" cards
>>736406201>IroncladOffering>SilentAdrenaline>DefectSeek>NecrobinderNeurosurge>RegentBig Bang
>>736406380seek isn't in sts2
>>736392527I do think it's odd how many gimmicks they gave him compared to everyone else, he has >forge>vigor/multi hit>colorless card gen>top deck manipulation >general star spam
>>736392527Yeah he has very little synergy between strats.
>>736405759>>736406071Thank you anons
>>736406201shrug it off, acrobatics, glow, defy, compile driver
>>736404251It's very clearly something they threw together quickly for fun without dedicating a whole lot to it, but I wouldn't mind if they added some multiplayer exclusive content that moreso tests your ability to coordinate (and also ingame chat)>Hunter Killer-esque boss that triggers based on everyone's actions (with some compensation str/dex buffs for you to work with)>Knowledge Demon variant with a voting system; either something like everyone chooses a group-wide curse, chooses which individual gets to eat shit or everybody chooses out of a selection of curses like with relics>elite that goes intangible against every 2nd attack that hits it>boss where your skills can only be used on other players
Ascension 9 is kicking my ass. The damage buff to enemies adds up fast
>>736379919w... why is her tongue sticking out...
>>736379919no way thats the actual card design
It's like I'm playing StS1 again
STS1 newbie here.Would you go snecko eye or slave collar here at the end of Act 2? I feel like my cost is way too low for snecko to be good, is that right?I know I need to remove strikes. I'll probably die due to unfamiliarity in Act 3 anyway; I'm really just curious how to gauge usefulness of snecko eye.
>>736406201>Chad: Impervious>Silent: Adrenaline>Regent: Big Bang >Necro: Fetch>Defect: Machine Learning
>>736406854NEVER go slave collarSnecko seems pretty good for you as you have a decent amount of 2+ cost cards
>>736406854Snecko here is still actually very good. You have a few 2 cost cards already so those are going to benefit, you just have to accept that sometimes your offering and battle trance will be bricked, but even at 1 energy they're playable. The important thing here is that you have the icecream relic so you're always going to be conserving the energy you weren't able to spend the previous turn. The additional card draw is going to feel REALLY good as well.
>>736406854you have plenty of high value 2 costs that will make it worth it. take snecko for the draw power more than anything.
The spire has fallen
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>>736406854You are right that you have almost too many low cost card, but you also have enough high cost cards to make up for it, ice cream helpsTry to avoid grabbing low cost cards from here on out.Also Sozu is really really bad as an act 1 boss reward, potions are very powerful
Thanks lads, finally A9 on multiplayer. Joined so many A4 capped games. I did 0 damage but spammed debuffs, hopefully it helped.
>>736406201i stuck to uncommons. I'm assuming that you meant cards that benefit most deck types when you said "in almost every situation.">ironcladbattle trance>silentcalculated gamble>regentreflect>necrobinderborrowed time>defectboot sequence
>>736406854bottled battle trance will actually go off hard with snecko eye. You might not want to play it when it rolls at like 3 cost but even at 2 cost thats 4 more cards you get to roll on in your opening hand after the initial 7 from snecko. You will get a ton of 0 cost plays.
Opps, all shit
>>736407181we did it! a10 soon
>>736407240greed + early shop, it's that easy
>>736407240Greed is fine, all the characters have ways to deal with a permanent curse on their deck.
>>736407240third one is so good on regent
>>736393172i liked the old one for shiv spamthe new one is mehgood overall but meh for shivving
You're playing Necro, what do you choose?
>>736407240what's wrong with talisman? helps with all of the chip damage you take in early act 1.
>>736407551what necro build she has a bunchhonestly it might not matter im leaning defect regardless
>>736407551Ironclad
>>736407551Blue. Get dat echo formAlso with this one always go rare card first so you can know what to get from the other two rewards to support it
>>736407557Nothing wrong with it, it's just kinda boring
>>736407649>Also with this one always go rare card first so you can know what to get from the other two rewards to support itYou can skip and look at all 3 before making a choice, anon.
>>736407645actually im changing my mind juggernaut is hilarious go ironclad and highroll
>>736407703
>>736407727barricade and immovable are pretty silly on necro too
>>736407551Ive done disgusting things with colorless card buffs and soul generation. Go regent.
>>736407551Ironchad has a lot of exhaust synergies so that.
>>736407831imagine getting an arsenal
>>736407831Oh that's an interesting idea
>>736407939>>736407913I got supermassive when I got that event as necro. It was a very easy run after that. And thats not even the best colorless/card creation option you can make.
>>736407831Regent feel the least beneficial at a glance because of all their star cards, but they have a lot of cards that other characters (Necrobinder especially) would love to have.
>>736408025Does Supermassive have bigger numbers than Death March or the other soul scaling thing
>>736385882why is this video so smooth?
>>736379371>cardslop
I'm kinda mad Hammer time doesn't stack, I thought my team mates would get double forge, but apparently they don't...
I think I get how to play Ironclad now.
>>736408485It scales faster than Soul Storm, and scales the same rate as Death March while not needing to be on the same turn. So more it's only mildly more useful than what they already have.
>>736408606I dunno why people are struggling so much on Clad when you can just take Cascade and let jesus take the wheel and it works like 8 out of 10 times
>>736408606Speedran the rest of the run one shotting almost every encounter. Was just offered the perfect combo of cards.>>736408828I dunno, I feel like I never have enough block or not enough damage. I probably just need more draw to get what I need on the turn that I need it. I'm A5 or higher on every other character but I struggle mightily with Ironclad
>>736407168GG
>>736409031GG y'all
>>736408932imo the trick with Ironclad is to just take every way to cheat out cards and exhaust/replace bad ones that you can. So Cascade, Havoc, Stampede, and then a bunch of draw and energy to play off of those. Whirlwind still shits on half the game and Dominate is crazy for getting some strength. If you can luck into Barricade or some good block relics early Body Slam is still a free win too.
>>736407168>>736409031>>736409047gg frens. Did no damage again until the very end, but I spammed group energy
What happens if you have the Courier and Vakuu's umbrella? Does it just buy the first set of the shop?
>>736409031GGFlanking is kind of amazing; I might have to try playing Silent in multiplayer more oftenPreferably with a non-shiv build so my turns don't take forever, but in my defence the game handed me Nunchaku and Pen Nib early so I couldn't just NOT build shivs
>>736409141you activate infinite shop
>>736409141Buys the first set of items and then you're free to buy anything else.
why the fuck is regent my most consistent characteri have won 8 of my last 9 a10 runs with himand im not even on the beta
How the fuck do I play Necrobinder?
>raping everything with silent>decide to take sneko lol>hands immediately brick and i lose next roundthanks for the advice guysnow on a six run losing streak
>>736410092Go full Osty, Doom, Soul, Ethereal, or get attacks liked Bury and powers like Lethality and become the grim reaper
>>736410103>takes rng relic>gets killed rng -stylemuch to consider
got my first ever infinite on my Ironclad A10yay
Is each Up My Sleeve treated as its own card or they're the same like Claw? If I reduce the cost of 1 one of them and draw the other one after that, are they both discounted or only the one I played? Asking because the card desciption says "this card" so I'm worried that taking 2 copies will be worthless.
>>736410942No benefit to having multiple of them. If you copy one with cost reduction the copy keeps the cost reduction
Why didn't you tell me that Regent is the coolest character? Finally started climbing with him. Will post a fun deck I had later
>>736411230Not everyone has what it takes to be king!
>Ironclad: Big bonk man>Brutality: +16%/33% more damage only on vuln enemies>Lethality: +50/75% more damage on all first hits>Tracking: x2 damage on weak enemiesIronclad got so sissified it's so unreal
>>736410103you should only take snecko if you already have a bunch of expensive cards and haven't found a way to get more energyotherwise it's basically turning all of your 0 and 1 costs into curses half the time
>>736411460It's crazy how tracking complete invalidates shadow step in every way
it's kinda weird to me that each character starts with a card that synergizes with one of their "gimmicks" but not the rest of them like for example ironclad starting with a card that causes vulnerable, but not one that exhausts, gives strength, self-harms, etc.it sort of gives that one archetype a leg-up in the sense that you're going to have an easier time picking vulnerable synergy cards since you already have one, where with the others you have to start from scratch
>>736411460Yeah it’s insane how weak Clad buffs are. Meanwhile go into multiplayer with Silent, she casts flanking(which is just tracking for allies) and Clas deletes bosses on turn one without any special setup
>Doormaker just has infinite HP on the first turnFeels like lazy design. They should make the Queen invincible until she casts her debuffs too.
Probably one of the most high-damage Silent runs I've had and there's not even any Tracking shenanigans. Nightmare and Burst mean I can just cruise without Footwork. And there's not even a single Acro in the whole deck. It was so strong I didn't even bother to pot, just to see if I can beat the boss gauntlet without using any resources. Putting Nightmare and Burst on Wail, Anticipate, Backstab, and Adrenaline entirely neuter the boss's output. It's pretty fun to play a faster and more offensive Silent rather than passively blocking which isn't even a good strategy against Experiment and Door especially since your strong block cards will get exhausted, while Wail will exhaust regardless of the phase, also helping to improve draw consistency.
decided to finally use the glitch that allows you to select more than one card for removals + upgrades and don't get me wrong, it was a lot of fun... but i aint using it again unless its ascension 0 shenanigans.
how cruelty works exactly in this scenarios?vuln + cruelty = 1.5 * 1.25vuln + paper phrog + cruelty = 1.75 * 1.25vuln + paper phrog + cruelty+ + cruelty+ = 1.75 * 1.5 * 1.5
>>736379371>playing status Defect >struggling through Underdocks and Hive until finally getting unceasing top gassed by the Insatiable, breeze through floor 3 without ever finding flak cannon >on the final boss, with a deck full of shit, Toasty Mittens hits my Gold Axe, Claw, All for One, and Meteor Shower (0 cost potion'd) in short order, get completely crippled on the last phase of lizard>win
I have never had an infinite in this game.
Is it me or there are too many relics that are just ok or one time use?
>>736413443yes, people ignore elites for that reason
>>736413462in STS1 it seemed more straightforward, just heading toward all the Elites.
>>736413527Here its Rest SitesUpgraded good cards > mid relicIf you feel powerful enough to take elites go for it so you can roll the relic gacha. Protip: it will be shit
>that guy who just powermaxxes in multiplayer because other players are actually debuffing enemies so he doesn't get raped>have to hear about how hard he's "scaling" 10 times a run
>>736413683Let me guess, it's Regent?
What do we do lads?Ironclad if it matters
>>736413817you can get entrench or dual wield
>>736413462The biggest issue is how hard they are fucking you up with card removal costs encouraging you to do elites too hard
>>736413817If is early in game I might go for a relic, see if I get lucky.Or Gold if you are close enough to a shop and want to remove a card.
>>736413573I hope they remove some relics or do something about them. I don't like those that are too specific like the one that gives you extra block....but only in the 3° turn.
>>736413817Go big or go home, always gamble baby.
If the architect is the one we are trying to kill, why isn't the game called Slay the architect?
>>736414019>I don't like those that are too specific like the one that gives you extra block....but only in the 3° turn.no, block relics are mostly great
you cant get the artifact with only 3 divinations no matter how hard you savescum
>>736414495Where does it save? I keep forgetting to savescum and at this point, it would mostly be to avoid those damn curses.
this nigga got the bobblehead cheat on
hate that dog thing act 3 bossi love my stupid "don't have to block because i just kill everything first" builds and he counters them
apparently if you take the maul event with bing bong, it gives you twice as many as cards you replacei have 12 mauls now. help
>>736414560before you choose between the number of tries
>check beta>that doormakerNo wonder it's a beta.
>>736415108He's way better than non-beta. Has an actual mechanic.
>>736415147>i will fuck you over every turn and also deal retarded amout of damageGreat mechanics. Very unique and cool.
I'm fucking cumming bros
>>736415167He is unique. Before he just closed his asshole every few turns. That's not interesting.
>battle trance>bloodletting+>primal force+LOL
>>736413683Perfectly describes my friend who plays nothing but Defect. Does nothing but turtle all run and if he ever does anything it's on the final boss.
>>736415495this is how you play clad in sts2. and the 1babs are all clicking Dark Embrace instead. LMAO.
>>736415185That's a lot of damage.
>tezcatara is MORE WINNING than pael or orobasapologize.
>>736415867pael requires a higher degree of skill to win with
>>736415867Hot Cocoa is extremely strong
>>736415867Darv mogs all Act2 Ancient is expected. How the hell he's worst in Act3, even below Vakuu, though? he has gazillion of energy relics.
just had my first sly silent runwhat the fuck this is the most broken shit ever
>>736414019Those block relics are pretty great. A lot of mobs are predictable and do super massive hits on certain turns. The statue elite starts his attacks on turn 3, the gas guy on act 1 gets his minion out on turn 3. I'm pretty sure one of the duo enemies on floor one also does a double attack on turn 3. Etc.
What's the best choice here really? Only 4th floor and only other card gained is High Five+. Snap+ is good for retaining Unleash. Sow+ is effectively 11xEnemy damage. No Escape+ is scaling damage but in another form.
>>736381124i went with the cascade + chem x and then this little guy gave me snecko. On top of that i let vaaku handle my first turn with gambling chip to filter the 3 cost cards that usually cost 1 (it works on the beta branch). Literally random bullshit go, it was insane
hehehehh
>>736416287I've never lost to that guy.
Since Xecnar isn't streaming, who are you watching?
>>736416601if there's forced elite(or if you just wnt to go fight an elite) I would take sow, otherwise no escape is better for the boss and sow is a common so you might see it later
>>736417148xecnar is the only non-faggy option
>>736417148I just watched Japanese import because grand finale was on the thumbnail and I was curious how would an experienced player play it, but he only got it near the end when he already had a lot of draw and two well laid plans
>>736379497it's basically a faceliftplay STS1 and then play STS2 and you won't want to go back really.if that's worth another 25 bucks or however much it costs, who knows
>>736414927Ah, I see, thanks.>>736415185>InstinctIs that an Ironclad only perk? I never found it.
>>736417203Yeah, I realized after picking Sow that it is actually a great early damage card especially with vulnerable. There wasn't a forced elite and I ended up winning anyways.
>could have bought that card that when exhausted keeps doing damage from the grave>2 turns later I could have gotten the card that exhausts oneFUCK!
>>736417148myself in the mirror telling myself to stop dying
>>736415867>Darv is basically an act 2.5 in terms of power levelMakes sense, surprising how well that works out.
Hosting betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775240955042793/76561198029311169
what the fuck is this retard mapgenofc the fourth fight was two nibbits so the run just ended
is eradicate the best necro card? has retain so it's easy to combo and loves any enchants, plays with invoke, delay, borrowed time, neurosurge, bypasses transfigure, it's just so easy
>>736418526Should've gone right, at least there's a shop or ?
>>7364184912/4, let's give it a minute
>>736418593Fetch and Neurosurge are the best cards because you can literally always play them.Eradicate needs some setup.
I have to take the clone by law because I have lucky fysh but I am not quite sure what to put it on here.
Ayo, are elites giving a guaranteed rare card now on beta?
>>736418603the third dot on left WAS an event that randomed into a fight
>>736418896With that setup I'd go with hailstormShame you didn't have a claw though
>>736417148Nobody. I will learn how to play by myself, I don't need to worship a grifter to have fun.
>>736419029Thanks for the help, curious to see how it pans out.
>>736379497>WAAA WHY THEY CHANGE GAME REEE>REEEE THEY DIDNT CHANGE GAME WAA/v/ is one person, fuck off
>>736415867I'm surprised Tanx is above the fattyKeep in mind these stats aren't really worth anything because it's just redditors playing runs and they suck at the game
why do they keep forcing this horrid designjust rework it already, its just ass
>>736417916Act 3 Manticore sometimes lets you put that on 3 cards.
>>736419664every patch must have>a random change to doormaker>randomly buffing or debuffing the skulking colonyit's part of the contract
what were they thinking?
What fucking disturbing art and scenes? Did I get the censored version or something?
>>736419987>He hasn't seen the sodomy event yet.
>>736419987getting eaten by the worm is pretty disturbing desu
the new goatse boss is way fucking harder holy fuck, making 1 turn where you lose mana fucking hurts
>>736418491close gg. Man I miss biased cog.>that giga cope when we realized we needed the Big Mushroom
>>736415867Surprised Orobas is so low, I love almost all of his options.
>>736419832Howl From Beyond not exhausting after playing is very annoying but I guess that's why it's blue instead of gold
>>736420263GG, yea the game trolled pretty hard with that event.I was pretty unlucky on the last boss, drew all my huge attacks when he had intangible and all the blocks during his status turn.
>>736419664Because it was too weak after the nerf.
>>736419832Howl isn't strictly worse because it always gives you a card to feed for your exhaust stuff.Like sometimes you run out of cards you actually want to exhaust, and then you either have to not use your True Grit or burn a card you wanted to keep.That being said it also does AoE dmg, which can be a huge difference in some fights.
>>736420334they should add some other benefits if they want me to have this 3 mana eternal curse polluting my deck
>>736420438>Like sometimes you run out of cards you actually want to exhaust, and then you either have to not use your True Grit or burn a card you wanted to keep.if you're at this point your deck should go infinite, which this piece of shit will block
>>736420504>3 mana eternal cursewell the idea is that you only take if you're already running an exhaust build so that you can actually reliably exhaust it, in which case it's a great card
I did it leddit!
Defrag shouldn't be a rare, and they should refer the temp focus card from exhausting.
>>736420612it's not even that good in exhaust decks, since every time you use targeted exhaust on it instead of any other card, it means your deck doesn't get thinner
>>736420883This card is so bad lmao.
>>736420923>t. the actual literal Defect himselfIf anything Defrag should be removed from the game. The literal only reason to not pick Defrag is if your deck has a Hyperbeam in it, or if you REALLY REALLY need another rare like you're building a status deck and find Flak Cannon. That's it. They didn't even have the balls to make Bulk Up lose focus.
>try a custom run A2, only change is the 30 cards deck>the Seed applies not just the map layout but cards tooNeat, I had found a deck that I was quite enjoying and now I can try it again.
>>736420418And now its too strong>just deal 15 dmg and block 15 every turn bro
>>736421063>free huge aoe hit if you can count
>>736421325Who is laughing now?
>>736420883>>736421063How would you fix the card?More damage, retain, some debuffs?
>>736421468>slips a Wound or Slime in your discard pile
>>736421523>How would you fix the card?not until half of Silent cards are nerfed
>>736421494Anon, it's 10 points of value for 1 energy. TEN.
>>736421494This card solo Act 1 btw
>>736421494why this gives 5 block instead of having block tied to damage?
>>736421523Make the payoff bigger. Maybe 50%. Also what the other guy said, nerf Sly more.>Acrobatics-1 draw>Flick-Flack-2 damageOR+1 energyFlick-Flack absolutely baffles me. You could outright remove Sly and it would still be borderline playable.
>>736421660Because thats another card
>>736421741This card is actually so fucking good. Had it on Ironclad upgraded and enchanted with plenty of vulnerable.
>>736421537if only there was a way to tell if an enemy intends to give you one
>>736421741why character defined by strength, vuln, and getting defense from offense doesn't have such card but it's a neutral?
>>736421714>nerfing Flick Flak Oh come on, bro. It's rally not that good.
>>736421802Ironclad is not allowed to be consistently goodSilent is the only one that can.
>>736421821>0 energy>Deal 7 to everything>Draw a cardYou realise this is effectively how the card reads right now, right?
>>736421802same reason why they took away his shockwave and didn't give him any new source of weakmeanwhile defect is allowed to get Null and make up for his lack of weak from the first game
>>736421868How does flick flak make you draw a card? It's easily the worst sly card btw and already nerfed by a damage point on beta.
>>736421930>How does flick flak make you draw a card?Because you're +1 cards every time you negate a discard effect by Slying the card.
>>736421821it's not good because quality of other Silent cards is so much higher. It's fine playing for 1 energy(literally 1 less damage than other AoE cards) and you can play it for free
can someone better explain the golden compass path to me? does it have fixed, best as possible events or something? is it just a good path with fires before each elite?
Sly is such a badly designed mechanic. What the fuck were they thinking>hey we have this character that can draw her entire deck multiple times a turn>the drawback is that it has to discard cards>so lets remove that drawback by adding broken cards that play when discarded
>>736422012???? that makes no sense. You don't draw anything. You just save an energy
>>736422073Discarding was never a drawback. Did you not play silent in STS1?
>>736422075I don't think you understand the concept of card advantage or why Sly is so stupidly powerful in the first place.
>>736422119My point just becomes stronger with your argument
Every day the zeitgeist focuses on Sly is another day Feral dodges the nerfbat
>>736422119>Discarding was never a drawbackretard, discarding is inherently a drawback, it's additional cost for playing a card. They overtunned it so much it's no longer a cost
>>736422142>StS1 had 2 cards that negated discarded, so it's okay that StS2 has 7 of the cunts
>>736422228how is it a drawback when you can just play the card last plus it lets you discard undesirable cards that damage you
>>736422212Feral is a single cardSly is an entire mechanic that doesnt need to be built around. Its literally free stuff
well, for me... it's putting snecko enchant on tactician
>eats BLUDGEON+>eats BREAK+phew. thanks god.tent+cook carry the run, couldn't set that up without it. what a satisfying run
>>736422228kek it's never been a "cost". You can even cheat needing to discard by playing the cards with an empty hand. Discarding always existed as a benefit rather than a cost. Which is why silent had cards like reflex/tactician and eviscerate and relics like tingsha
>>736422349>Thrash in a Strike Dummy deckI've been there, brother. I have learned the meaning of CUM.
>>736422228>Prepared+>Discard Abrasive+ and Untouchable+URGH I HATE HAVING TO DISCARD >:(((
anyone noticed that not a single Silent discard card discards "random" card? It's always targeted....hmm...>>736422587THAT"S A POINT MORON, THEY OVERTUNED IT SO MUCH CARDS THAT DISCARD HAVE UPSIDE WITH AN UPSIDE
Why is this guy having a meltdown over silent's core discard mechanics that have existed since STS1?
Ironclad should have cards with added benefits for being exhausted
>>736422845and make random exhaust actually cost calculated correctly. True grit without upgrade treats random exhaust as "upside" despite random discard being one of the most dangerous effects on a card, survivor has more block and always targeting discard
