It fundamentally misunderstands what makes action adventure games fun
>>736383583It created what makes action adventure games fun
>>736383583No it doesn't
It shits all over nu-Zelda
>>736383583
>>736383654It does, how tf I was supposed to know the skulluntulas can only be killed when they turned around and they’re invincible otherwise
I tried to enjoy it but by the time you reach the forest temple you're left wondering what the fucking point of the game is. It lacks a core narrative to carry all the macguffin hunting nonsense.
Here's your (you) you whore.Now fuck off.
>>736385079>It lacks a core narrative to carryyou have to save the princess. her name is in the title. it's as straightforward as possible. only retards who think link is zelda can't follow it
>>736385373You don't seem to understand the game, it has nothing to do with saving a princess at all.
>>736383583True. It's crazy how much better action adventure/rpg games were on the PSX compared to Nintendo's poor performance with OoT. Makes sense why Zelda became irrelevant for a long time after going to 3D.
>>736384201Did you try hitting them with your sword? What happened when you did? Did you consult Navi to see if she had tips on fighting it?
>>736385524you save ZELDA and then she uses the OCARINA OF TIME to send you back in time at the end of the game and young link and zelda stop ganon and save the timeline. it's all in the fucking title
>>736384201Because the underbelly’s look squishy and the faces are invincible
>>736385079>Entire world goes to shit and you're the only one that can stop it at that point>Get told to get the sages' help>Go to the forest to find your one and only childhood friend missing when her favorite spot was right outside the temple>Have no idea where Zelda went either, last time you saw her she was fleeing GanondorfHow much more did you need?
>>736385945So many better adventure games exist to entertain this cliche slop.
>>736383583Ok I'll bite. How? Please elaborate.The gameplay is more complex than most early 3D action adventures. Z targetting is great and many modern games still play basically the same way of locking on, strafing, melee, ranged, shield.If you're talking vibes and not gameplay, it's great in that. Cinematics, framing, and aesthetics that beat most modern games.What's it misunderstanding?
>>736383583Let me guess, muh sandbox experimentation is what makes them fun
>>736387484>The gameplay is more complex> Z targettingActually it's dumbed down trash for stupid people.
>>736385079>s. It lacks a core narrative to carry all the macguffin hunting nonsenseDude, what the fuck>Be told there is a looming danger and you have to save it. Be told to talk with the princess and see shat can be done>Princess has a plan, go find the mcguffins>Twist is that it was all part of dorf keikaku to gain power>Now you have to unfuck your fuckup by releasing the sages, killing dorf servants and releasing the realmsWhat fucking more do you want? Do you also need muh item description and the boss to throw some vague lines about zanzibart?
>>736388621can you name some games with complex 3D combat from around the same time as OoT?
>>736390784>Step out of hyrule castle and it looks destroyed>Go to Kakariko and it's 100% okayI see
>Legacy of Kain faggot jealous of OoT, 30 years laterSad
>>736386782How many of them existed before it did
>>736391784How is that relevant in 2026>it isn'tI see
>>736390864Brave Fencer Musashi, Tenchu, Blade & Busters, Medievil.
>>736391604Im gonna be real with you, I don’t know what legacy of kain is but the mc looks like the nameless one
I think I now know why Ocarina of Time is considered the greatest game of all time. It's like the Theory of General Relativity - considered perfect in every way with no room for improvement.
>>736392313I haven’t seen any of those
>>736391858>So many better adventure games exist to entertain this cliche slopThe point is it wasn't cliche when it was made, ya dumb retard.Everything that followed uses cliches that were fresh when this game came out.
The biggest problem with the game, as others have noted before, is that the combat has very little depth. It was good for it's time, but I don't find myself wanting to replay it these days.
>>736383583>great visuals>great music>great story>great atmosphere, overworld, dungeons>still the best 2d to 3d transition everit's the best game ever for a reason.
>>736392009Brave Fencer Musashi and Tenchu are god tier. Fuck Oot.
>>736392470>The point is it wasn't cliche when it was madeImagine believing that shit. Imagine entertaining it in 2026.
>>736393129Sorry facts make ya seethe kid.
>>736392543And the game constantly forces combat with shitty locked room encounters so it's not like you can just ignore it. I'm impressed at Nintendo making some of the lackluster bosses in action game history.
>>736393063>Brave Fencer MusashiI never beat that game because of Topo. Fuck that bitch so hard.
I didn't like OOT when it first came out, but when I try to play it today, I just can't... The N64's 20 fps and 250 ms of input lag are unbearable because, unlike those retarded autists, I have standards. But even the PC port doesn't run well, even with frame interpolation, the 144 fps looks like 20 fps on my monitor.It's awful.All just to play a childish game with absolutely no depth whatsoever. Dungeons for toddlers, puzzles for the mentally retarded, combat that requires absolutely no skill.
>>736393171You haven't heard of Peter Pan, you're just a retard.
>>736383624Zelda 1 did it years before OoT came out, and even Alttp did everything OoT tried to do but did it better.
>>736383624FPBP
>>736383583>It fundamentally misunderstands what makes action adventure games fun
>>736385079It's one of the best games at giving you the stakes in its core narrative, you fucking retard. You get to actually experience the world of Ganondorf's victory before you can even really set out on trying to stop it.
>>736393579This is retarded, why do you use "but" following a reinforcement of the previous sentence?
>>736394294>the stakes>uhhh Ganon won alreadyI see
>>736394171Kek
>>736388621Trying too hard. Auto cam snap lock in 3D combat was a pioneered innovation in OoT. The only identical mechanic done early was holding down a button in Syphon Filter PS1 with a wire taser.
>>736397053>Auto cam snap lock in 3D combat was a pioneered innovation in OoTOoT didn't invent lock on and lock on systems are shit for 3D games in general since it's dumbed down trash for stupid people.
>>736397189contrarian takes on /v/? its more likely than you think.
>>736397189For adventure games they were the first to adapt it and it has become the standard for focused combat. Its an innovation that set the standard including dialogue interactions. They did it first for the action adventure genre.
>>736384161FpbpSick of these reruns from zoomer shitposters
>>736397770>For adventure games they were the first to adapt it Again, wrong. OoT did not invent lock on no matter how many N64faggots scream otherwise. It didn't even do lock on well, Nintendo literally change how lock on worked in future games so nothing using the OoT style of lock-on anyway.
>>736398106Mention the other imaginary game you are thinking of faggot.
>>736398227Imaginary game of what? OoT didn't not invent lock on, that's a objective fact. Plenty of games before already utilize lock one before Nintendo.
>>736392313I'm not sure if nakayama kinnikun is gay
>>736398392Holy fuck. Mention the other game you think had the innovation before LoZ and Syphon Filter you disengenuous fuckwitt. Wahh wahh it isnt because I say so!! The game?? What are you talking about?? What a fucking loser you are.
>>736383583Thank you for at least stepping up the effort a little bit, the threads were getting stale
>>736383583What do contrarians get out of being the way they are?
>>736391493>>Go to Kakariko and it's 100% okaySomeone didn't beat the Fire and Water Temples
>all these "OoT is bad actually" threads because everyone is lubing themselves up for the inevitable OoT Remake they can jack off because it'll be based on BotW
>>736384201Using your eyes. Using your brain. It's what an adventurer would do, you just don't qualify.
>>736399594It's going to be annoying as fuck to hear a bunch of zoomers saying the remake is better than the original that they never actually played, over and over and over again.
>>736399731They already kinda do it by pretending that BotW is a Zelda 1 revival.
>>736399773>removed WWGood man. It was disgraceful of WWfags to try wriggling themselves into the Koizumi canon using extremely minimal involvement on his part (since he was already in the process of moving over to Mario).
>>736399594The funny thing is, even if Nintendo does base an OoT remake on BotW, it's not going to be nearly a 1:1 BotWlike. They'll still have to include at least some of the iconic secondary items. They'll still have to include dungeons, and more than fucking four of them. They'll still have to make the narrative important to the game's progress. Etc, etc.Which means Switchfags will either have to do their duty and worship whatever the latest product is, which means they'll have to either concede along the way that BotW and TotK were massive overcorrections that threw out the baby with the bathwater and that they've been playing sour-grapes over the stuff those games got rid of; or they'll sulk and complain that "the whiners got their way", at the risk of making themselves open to turnabout in regards to rampant accusations of being "snoys" et al for daring to criticize current Nintendo.In short: even in the most realistic BotW-y case scenario for an OoT remake, they're stuffed.
>>736399773now remove shit mask and you have the holy trinity of the best zelda games
>>736394335I removed an entire sentence in the middle because nobody reads posts that are more than four lines long
>>736400480I don't understand why Nintendo has convinced itself that preventing exploration without certain items is a bad thing.
>>736400559
Take your time Link, Princess is busy with the GERUDO KING.
>>736400720EPD deals in extremes. They saw that people didn't like how there's constant funneling and railroading in SS, so they said "okay fuck it, next 3D game will have virtually NO progression friction!".
>>736383583>no map markers>barely any dialogue>no one tells you what to do or where to go>open world thats like 3 places with nothing in themUnc game for gay ass uncs, time for the retirement home
>>736401013>>barely any dialogue
>>736399594Yeah? it can only go up from the original which was pretty good in 1998
>>736393920ALttP is great but plays like a prototype to OoT. Which it basically was. OoT has a better iteration of Hyrule, better puzzles, better combat and better music.
>>736394664>game about time travel>retard can't envision the stakes being about undoing the future>which is exactly what happens
>>736393689Every reply you've made ITT has shown you to be the retard.
>>736383624That would imply it was fun. It isn't. Pushing crates and raising water levels while diving around already cleared rooms like a pig in mud looking for keys is not fun. Demon's Souls where there's enemies in the dungeons that are the puzzle to pass on the way to the mini bosses are fun. Not this lighting torches to open doors and rooting around like a pig in shit for consumable keys.
>>736383583Should I play this? People say it's good but I always found the Zelda games I played a bit underwhelming until BotW. Well, I got bored playing WW as a kid when I had to collect the triforce pieces, which still seems like a huge flaw of that game to me even now. And Twilight Princess didn't really do much for me, I didn't hate it but it was kinda slow. I didn't even play SS, it looked awful. I did like Link to the Past when I played the 3:2 version on GBA though. And like 15 years later I enjoyed Link Between Worlds as well. Those two seemed like the best Zelda games of the ones I played.I had a PS1 instead of a N64 so I never played the N64 games though. Do they still hold up even after having played all the others? They seem a bit primitive.
>>736401604>retard doesn't realize that the timeline splits>the world stays fucking destroyed and Link's defeating Ganon is undone>this causes Link to proceed through life full of regrets>he is cured to become the shade of a hero and pass on skills to someone who will be recognized insteadmany such cases
>>736398392Yeah, shitty versions of it. Remember that Nintendo already figured out how to do good lock-on by E3 1997 when they showed it off there,
>>736401698>reusing the same metaphor twice in the same post
>>736401650ok retard>oot is so hecking original guys>that's why it uhhh does the errrm
>>736401698jesus christ the open world games really were made for TikTok/Shorts kiddies huh
>>736401878Holy shit, you’re like 40 years old and still haven’t played Zelda. You sound like you’ve been through hell. Just remember, no matter what life throws at you… endure.
>>736401698preach
>>736401878SS is better than OOT, if you're not willing to touch it then avoid this game like the fucking plague.
>>736402180Bruh you seriously believe people use to dress in suits and ties with tophats on for their job at the factory. Everything was figured out from the very beginning of this reality. Were merely trapped in a demiurges creation. He knew people didn’t like it, but did it anyways. He can keep us here forever. Literally an eternity.
>>736402524bot post.
>>736402597Bruh you seriously believe I’m trolling. Nope, that’s the reality. Digital hardware is designed with less technology than we have access to. Imagine, like seriously imagine they only figure out how to add like 1gb of space every 3 years. Like seriously imagine we can’t figure out how hard drives work. Do you know how fucking easy that shit is, anyone can pick up a pencil and design an n64 overnight.
>>736402304this post is incoherent. What were you trying to communicate?
>>736402473Yeah I thought it might be a bad idea. Maybe if the remake improves the game I'll try that one
I wanted to vomit when I tried to play OOT. It's so unbelievably ass and just UGLY. I feel sorry for people who missed out on quake/the internet in the 90s but were old enough to have been there
>>736383583Not really. It's fine for kids. The problem is that you have mentally ill adults playing that shit.It's not for you if you're over 12.
welp the Nintendo Discord found the thread
>>736402887there's a nintendo discord? surely there are lots of nintendo discords
it aged ;like milk and piss mixed together
>>736402851Quake is such an ugly fucking game lmao
>>736402829Endure. Let the hard times roll off your shoulders, down your back like a bead of sweat, through your ass cheeks and into your sphincter brother. The hard times will make their way forcibly into your sphincter. Do not give up, you will endure. You got this buddy, let me know if you need any help. Or you can go check yourself into a trained educated professional who does therapy work.
>>736401604Even in the confines of just OoT you don't actually undo the future, Zelda's left to clean up the ruins all by herself and only sent Link back because he's already going to be burdened with the trauma that his childhood was a lie and this terrible future is objectively his fault because he opened the door to the Sacred Realm, letting Ganondorf slip right on in.
>>736403046is this some kind of ai slop bot
>>736401698why do you have to escalate to such a vulgar grotesque metaphor? is any puzzle game where you need to collect things roiling around in a shit? seems bad faith.
>>736403107You seem schizophrenic. I suggest calling emergency services for an ambulance, you need immediate help.
>>736403107Looks like it. I don't know why they keep making the captcha shittier and shittier when it's clearly not stopping these kinds of non-sequitur bot posts.
>>736403476You should have gay sex with that guy, you can finally become a woman like you dreamed of.
>>736403476It's very annoying that the site and the internet at large is inundated with spammers like this. It's ruining what was a perfectly good thing.
>>736403543>gay sex>woman
>>736403550You seem to be experiencing a mental breakdown. Call your family and ask them for help. You might be able to hug your dad if you play it up, say you really want to touch his bare ass. He probably won’t let you into your mom’s ass though like you want.
