What killed racing games? I know they used to be tech demos but come on now, people love racing IRL, espcially NASCAR
I hate hags
Car makers don't want to see their cars being shown in illegal street races and people won't buy racing games if le red horse car isn't featured in it.
>>736389329>Actually knowing the namesLMAOOOOFUCKING OBSESSEDGet fucked retard, we won
To whom it may concern,a Taishin only race:39960178Shortslop race:50594688Bring one of your long aces.>>736389209The genre is stagnant.
>>736389329>>736389375What the fuck?>>736389356>Car makers don't want to see their cars being shown in illegal street racesWasn't this a meme? I know AM General banned Humvee from bunch of vidya like squad
>>736389209Lack of enthusiasm for cars. It's a dying interest because new cars suck fucking ass.
>>736389539This, nobody wants to race in cuckovers and SUVs. Even Ferrari and Porsche make them now.
>>736389209They couldn't live up to the GOAT.
>>736389209give me one(1) good reason why a sim racing game wouldn't work with kart-racer style power ups
>>736389852Real life racing is technical and deep enough to keep it interesting, you can also have other stuff like guns
>>736389852Because even kart racing games would be better without them. turning a skill based competition into a gambling game makes everything shitty and mindless.The real question is why all kart racers don't have sim physics, Id play Mario kart with a FFB racing wheel and a gear stick.
Essentially a combination of several factors caused a further splitting of the genre and then its "death". In a rough timeline order>Sony doesn't have a first party racing launch title for the ps4>namco didn't make ridge racer either>the end of the ps360 generation was pushing for open worlds in games or gtfo and that poses a lot of extra design challenge for racing games which only a few studios managed to do well at>need for speed was still in full slop mode>the sim racing crowd that had always existed started to show - mainly on PC - they will pay any price for their sim needs which started to create an even more distinct divide in the player base>EA gobbled up a few of the last standing devs capable of making good racing games>R* san diego was locked into just being a tech support studio for GTAThis meant the long standing AA backbone of the genre basically died in about 2-3 years as recognisable franchises vanished and many studios didn't want to take risks (see: split/second and blur and how they turned out). The indie scene took a few years to get rolling as that was primarily in the "muh (s)nes" period though it is now in a sort of "muh virtua racing" period but we really need them to get to the point of aping psx style games for them to hit their stride. Consider that for somewhat mainstream gaming about the only decent to high budget games/franchises left standing are forza horizon, gran turismo and what, wreckfest?BallisticNG carried the wipeout torch for years but that is now feature complete and not getting any new content. Grip was kinda-but-not-quite rollcage (it is getting a sequel too so keep an eye out for that soon™). A bunch of RC racers have turned up in the pc space but most are pretty rough and don't really surpass re-volt. This >>736389731 is finally getting something resembling a sequel 26 years later in the form of galactic racer. Screamer is....not the screamer people remember, TXR is niche and lmao solar crown.
Because GTA 3 happened. GTA does arcade racing good enough to be the default standard racing game. If someone want to race now they just log into GTAO and pick a race. The cars are good enough while traffic, pedestrians and guns add variety. I think the last racing game that tried to add variety was Split/Second, but Disney censorship prevented it from doing anything better than Burnount: Revenge. Notice how Burnout Paradise is basically GTA without guns or peds. Remember The Italian Job/LA Heist or Driv3r? GTA more or less replaced all of that.
>>736389451Also, now that I looked into it there was a lawsuit about licensing cars in video games and Activision won it
>>736389209>people love racing IRL, espcially NASCARFan interest in actual racing has been stagnant for a while. F1 only got a boost in popularity because of their reality TV show, and the audience for that isn't the audience for games.
>>736389209Nothing, it's split in between Sim racers and arcade racers. Both have strong fan bases. The Sim racers always bitch and moan about arcade like racers because theyre more focused on the fun factor that a Sim. Yeah, I grew up with grand tourismo and early forza. Did I like doing literally 200 laps next to a 3-5 lap race with action packed fun? No, I wanted more fun. But im not taking from Sim racers, because I get it. I just wouldn't have a $10,000 Sim set up and buy an actual car.
>>736389209Copy paste brick-like driving model in every single game. Since 2010 all of the titles play the same as if all the studios used same crappy premade.
>>736390624Ok. I'm lying, some of those sim set ups look kind of cool and fun. Especially the ones that emulate it the best way possible. Like noticeable changes in handling, shifting, etc, and having to use real life driving skills.
>>736390504>and the audience for that isn't the audience for gamesThey aren't really the audience for racing either. As far as I can tell they're just focused on the drama with racing as a backdrop.
>>736390886I dont know about Nascar, ive seen it since I was a kid and went to actual NASCAR races. Those fuckers are louder than you think, and that smell of racing fuel and burning rubber. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
>>736389451Just some schizo obsessed with horse gacha seeing ghosts everywhere
because you faggots keep buying slop like horizon
>>736391000The best is when you stand by the gate, and theyre fucking ripping past you at 150+mph. Nothing like it, you just feel the roar of the engines. Those v8s just screaming.
>>736391000Checked. That comment was only about F1. NASCAR is still about getting drunk and watching cars smash into each other at improbably speeds.
>>736391219Horizons fun, can't wait for Japan. We've been wanting that for years.
The thing about turn left is it doesn't have much international appeal so anyone making a game that keeps die hard burgers happy is walking a very fine line of investing enough money to make it good vs what they can expect to get back given the rest of the world isn't going to care a great deal.turn left 2003 best game ever btw
>>736389209Like all games nowadays, they are too expensive to makeIndie shit is your best shot
>>736389329
>>736391280Yeah, but I liked the actual racing. >met dale Jr and dales wife as a kid at the Richmond track, got to sit in a race car that wasn't just a set peice for lame pics. Still have the pics too, my little ass with a big grin on my face in that racing seat. Good memories.
>>736389329Fuck off, bot.
>>736391349I'm waiting for someone to make a ridge racer game with the serial numbers filed off. If anyone can actually nail that ridge racer - especially psx era - feel that would be golden.
will forever be seething that trackmania died
>>736391587I'd love a new ridge racer, I tend to forget about that game.
>>736389209Simtards killed sim/cade with boring circuit racingForza killed arcade with zoomercore tardation
>>736391643I was hoping the switch 2 would be the excuse namco needed to make a new one but no, we get get a port of rave racer. Neat but it being only on the switch sucks so teknoparrot is somewhat of the only way to go for everyone else.
>>736391598Showing my age here, but this was a fun one. I remember one for n64 that was more modernized. Only cam think of one of the cycles/cars being camouflage. But the name is beyond me right now. But it was a super fast game.
>>736391349also no profit on the long term from themeverything must be fortnite
Play good racing games you fucking racists.
>>736391795Sorry man, I dont have a switch. Even though I got to play one for a bit and actually liked it. But yeah, we need a new one.
>>736391982This was so much better than 2 just for the camera alone. I like how he already teased 3 and the camera is similar to Rally Edge
>>736391795There was a new Ridge Racer being developed by Bamco Singapore for the Switch, but it was cancelled.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ2jqn_rJB0Maybe they'll try again eventually.
>>736391698Cry about it, maybe you just suck. Like the people I race in forza that constantly slam into walls like they're fucking blind.
>>736391982I do.
>>736389209>espcially NASCAR
>>736389209>tfw no F1 in aprilAnd that's for the better, fuck 2026
post good arcadey gamesi'm in needi saw the animeish game that was like 70 bucks, but i really dislike games where steering moves your car around the screen off centre or it goes heavy off kilter like that one nfs gameit doesn't make me feel connected to the car even if i'm a 3rd person chasecam babby>>736392347nta, and i'm a yuro but from time to time I enjoy indulging in some turnleftit has a zen quality to it
>>736392534Eh, I could never get into f1. But like Nascar, rally, ans road racing a lot more. The isle of Mann shit is insane, almost 200mph down a narrow road with no room for error. You have to have balls of fucking titanium
>>736391598Huh trackmania's alive and kicking.
>>736392534don't the regulation suck now?
>>736391598>trackmania died?
>>736392598Trail Out
>>736392759
>>736392634The isle of man TT is a legit bloodsport. You WILL see someone die each time it is held.
>>7363912951 free month of Gamepass Ultimate™ has been gifted to your Microsoft account.>>736391587>just casually asking for a modern developer to recreate peak 1990s NamcoMy man, everyone has dreams but you've got some Super Mario 2 shit in that head.
>>736392789>have you see fairy tail
>>736392856Even the Superbikes, thats even heavier. Hit a bump at 175, it's over..done.
>>736392789from the thumbnail i thought this was unrelated tf2 fempyro porn
90's arcade racer never ever.
>>736392865Found the whiny Sim racer. I like Sims, and I like fun. But fun more, and Japan has always been the epitome of car culture.
well?
>>736392985Ah, I remember playing Rush and crazy taxi at the arcade.
>>736389451Sorry that our schizo sperged out in your thread lads, he spam refrshes the catalog all day to try and find any thread related to uma. As tou can see he gets A LOT of false positives.
>>736393032We're just going to keep making fun of you.
>>736389209There is a fuck ton of shit>Obama and his cash for clunkers just to please the US car industry>all the old cars are junked, the surviving old cars now cost a trillion dollars, and they kept raising the price for new cars>zoomers and alphas are taught car bad/walking good>zoomers and alphas has a short attention span>the car industry is doing their darnest to make it impossible to fix cars and force subscription fee >cars in modern era are egg suvs with trillions of electronic that will break within a month, and they require the buyer to put out a 72 month loan with interest>Car Dealers are faggots and will always scam anyone with their APR or outright lying>Sim racing this, Sim racing that>Arcades is full of Gen-X try hards making some of the most unlikeable shit just to stay hip>NASCAR is nepotism tier>F1 are just rich kids with expensive cars>getting into car racing in general require you to be rich, period, and start kart racing as a kid>why the actual fuck would you cheer for nepobabies driving a car in a loop?
>>736392534>tfw no F1 in aprilthanks god
>>736393140Shut the fuck up man.
>>736392987>Found the whiny Sim racer.I've been screaming through Empire City on a Negcon since before your fucking father nutted in the wrong hole and your bitchslut of a mother shat you out in the back of a Hyundai. You don't know shit about fuck, shit about me, and this "if you have even one complaint about game X, you must be a whiny fan of Y!" mentality is why racing games have been so consistently fucking mediocre for so many years.FUCK YOU
>>736393224>replies with whiningCope, people like fun sometimes. Especially playing video games.
>>736393127>>736393205what schizo shit is this
>>736393291I dont think you understand what that word really means.
>>736392929Superbikes tend to be run on actual race courses and not some village road where postman pat drives his little red van.
>>736393056No anon, you misunderstand.https://www.teamvvv.com/news/what-ever-happened-to-90s-arcade-racer/
>>736393375What? Im talking about the isle of mann here.
>>736393140>>zoomers and alphas are taught car bad/walking gooddo americans really?
>>736393339>OP asks question>anon replies>is told to shut the fuck up for making an effort posthuh?
>>736393224>I've been screaming through Empire City on a NegconUnfathomably based.
>>736393426It's whatever, arcade racers are fun. Especially back in the day at arcades. Getting the best times and putting "psy" or "ass" as my initials. Lol.
>>736393472What does schizophrenia have to do with my replies? You have no idea what the fuck youre saying.
>>736392695We're back to the cars do all the work while the drivers just try to survive now.
>>736393493Hell yeah, brother. I also had one of those clunky PS1 era wheels, I think it was a V3 or something, but could never get the damn thing to calibrate right. IIRC all the wheels of that era were basically a Negcon inside, weren't they? Since it mapped out totally different from a Dual Analog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziX_f7rdFD4Well for one the music they've been using is complete garbage, unlike what we used to get in racing games.
>>736393438Universities does that to those kids. Universities are also walkable and extremely safe with police, so those kids wouldn't know how bad it is if they try walkable cities like New York. They're more or less taught CAR BAD, hence why car vidya in general aren't popular with kids. That and a bunch of youtubers
>>736389209I feel like to play them properly you need to buy a wheel setup and have that huge block of pussy repellant taking up space in your home.
>>736391226Americans are so gay lmao
>>736393775How is that gay? You do know that Nascar does road races also?
>>736393681my joke is more that thinking walking is somehow bad is arguably even more retardedt. loves cars and racing but lives in a city where everyone takes their bicycle or public transport wherever they need to go and i'd be retarded not toit can be hard for people to relate to very different infrastructures
>>736389209racing games with rubberband balance feel unfair for good players and bad playersracing games without rubberband balance feel boring for good players and unfair for bad players
>>736393575I've got one (with pedals) of some sort sitting in my closet and I must admit it has been there a very long time. I'm not even sure I can find all the power cables for it but one of these days i'll dig it out and use it again. One of these days.......At least I know all the bits to my lightgun are in the box and it even has a fancy pedal for reloading which is nice.
>>736391587>there will never be an R4 spiritual successor with a GRID 2008 style career and race tree (plus 1v1s) mixed with R4's own visual story and team-based difficulty stuffit's fucking right there, R4 even has an (unnamed and it doesn't count if they win) teammate with you in races, RTS was ravenwest before ravenwest, super drift heavy physics, absolutely bangin' soundtrack and art style that epitomizes the era each game is from (pre-2000 futurism and late 2000s yellow and bloom respectively)
The only racing games ive ever liked where star wars pod racer on the n64 and f zero gx on the GCN. They don't make enough games where you're going hundreds of miles an hour in Sci fi ships it's all just boring ass cars. I drive a car every day I want to drive something I can't actually drive irl.Don't Sega and Nintendo get along? Get Sega to make another f zero game. Even if it's not quite as good as gx, and it probably wouldn't be with how Sega has bled talent, if theyre able to get online multi-player working decent people will still love it.
>>736393963oh and i forgot the most important part: not having to do worse in races to unlock all the cars like in r4 itself, because fuck that
My grandfather raced NHRA for years until his trailer was stolen. Nitromethane, rubber, and asphalt are all core childhood sense memories.
>>736391980>yellow vertex painted tunnelsHOME
>>736394058RR4's unlock system is them blatantly looking at all the cool concept art the team had done, modelled them into the game and THEN finally asked "wait, how do we actually unlock this when there are only 8 races in the game?". Rage got the balance better.
>>736392157just because you're good at a shit game doesn't mean its shit.actually, your opinion is worth less than nothing in this case.stop posting, you're making things worse with your bad takes.
>>736394556LIZARD NUMBER ONE
>>736393140There is no way you are blaming Obama for the death of racing games. What a retarded reach.
>>736394626The best car in the game is the abeille though.
>>736394627Sure I can. It does two things. It remove tons of FUNCTIONAL cars out of the markets (and destroy them), and the car industry get to crank up the prices of new cars now that the supply of cars dwindle. So a kid that need a car to drive to college or their first jobs won't be spending a few hundreds for a used car, they will have to spend thousands. That is more than enough to prevent the newer generation from getting into cars in general.
>>736394954meanwhile I played racing games while i was 4 years old and they were my favouritenow i'm 33 and don't even own a carit's like saying kids aren't getting into arena fps anymore because they don't have the means to shoot up schools before the libs took overvideogames aren't real life, forza zoomers will never buy a jewgatti veyron no matter how much they watch andrew tate videos
>>736394627I mean he was in the burnout that ruined the series
>>736394954The main audience for the golden age of racing games were kids. I was pretty far off from my learner's permit when I was spamming NFS:HP2 with my friends.
the widespread adoption of traffic cameras will be the killing blow for car culture
>>736395196NTA but cars were cool when you were young and they no longer are. not only are they out of reach for a younger generation, nobody is going to feel a house appliance with wheels is aspirational.
>>736394627>There is no way you are blaming Obama for the death of racing gamesConsider:
>>736393987rally is what bridged the gap for me between antigrav racers and simfaggotry
>>736389209racing games never died. there's great releases from AAA, AA, indie, and modders
>>736391598Trackmania's fucking alive though? They literally just had it at Dreamhack like 1 week ago and now they're doing a Red Bull cup.
after picrel they realised they would never top it so they just gave up. there is nothing that comes close
>>736395537>replay the game thinking I would have fun>rubberbandingrubberbandingrubberbandingrubberbandingrubberbandingrubberbanding
>>736395537You appear to have posted the wrong picture, but that is okay i've got you covered.
>>736395397i get that perspective, but like my music or film or fashion taste has nothing to do with what is relevant at the time i was young eitherit's not a requirementI truly believe cars and racing much like dinosaurs or combat in any way is just timeless in it's appealwether it be running, horse and chariot racing flying planes etc
>>736393032I'm mildly resentful that NFSU gets lumped in with MW/Carbon. If you were there and in the know, you'd be aware those things are culturally separate.
>>736395585AIRHORN AIRHORN AIRHORN AIRHORN
Are there even any big racing releases coming up outside of Horizon 6? It feels like there's nothing to look forward to in the genre.
>feel like playing racing gaems>play truck sims again instead
>>736395779I'm looking forward to the star wars racer
>>736395876it'll be so funny if this sequesters podracers to their own set of tracks and/or doesn't have anything close to burnout destruction
>>736395817I want ETS2 to get a road trip mode like burger truck sim will. I want to go from paris to berlin in a single tank.
>>736395779TXR 2025 for PS5 got release last month.
>>736396047>paris to berlin in a single tank.keep talking
>>736395641It is very relevant though. Games are often a fulfilment of a specific kind of fantasy, a fantasy that is implanted in your head by fiction or prevailing cultural trends. This is why so many people want to drift around mountain courses while eurobeat plays or why people want to have ww2 dogfights in space or fight kaiju in mechs, these aren't interests that sprout from nothing.we're roughly the same age so I also remember dinosaurs being a gigantic cultural touchstone, they aren't universal and the only reason you like them is you grew up in the 90s. Jurassic park was massive, state broadcasters like the BBC were making documentaries about them while fantasy tv shows and videogames were shitting out dinosaur media, that is gone and I cant remember the last time I thought about them or saw any other kid who gives a shit.
>>736396256my nephew of 6 is also apeshit about dinosaurs right now(i gave him hot wheels and while thankful i'm not sure he was really into it)
>>736396256I think the inverse is also true. People with no prior interest become car guys after playing games as a kid. I feel like 50% of skateboarders today got into the hobby through tony hawk and skate
Been having a blast on Screamer.
>>736396057That shit sucked.
>>736396454I think that's because those games tap into a pre-existing cultural well that is actually appealing. It is very rare for a game to be cool or appealing enough on its own to invent and then carry an entire subculture. wipeout is actually an interesting example, I think it was so cool it cemented futuristic racing games as an influential fantasy well beyond the standard nostalgic, autistic tendie shit.Boys were pre-programmed to have some interest in cars even as toddlers, it is still in the media they consume and the toys they are given, though much weaker these days.>>736396440maybe there is some autistic obsession with dinosaurs among nerdy kids that im unaware of. There could also be some current cartoon with dinosaurs that is spreading the autism, all I know is they were an unavoidable cultural obsession much like cars were and it was almost impossible to find kids who weren't thinking about them in the 90s.
>>736397471>tap into a pre-existing cultural well that is actually appealingthat was what I meant>well beyond the standard nostalgic, autistic tendie shit.the fuck you just say to me you little bitch?and as for the dinosaurs thingi think just telling a kid that once upon a time earth was populated by fuck huge dragon lizards is enough to blow their mindsthat cousin has this a3 notebook filled with dinosaurs and statistics about them and what they eat etc. while they battle it outi'm pretty sure he's also autistic but he's young and has two sisters so i'm not sure he just acts strange sometimes because he feels left out
>>736391598>riolu upset he can't cheat without consequence anymoretrackmania is more popular than ever, sorry you're missing out
>>736390504F1 is pure DOGSHIT now both in actual racing and drama
I'm very much enjoying wreckfest
>What killed racing games?The same thing killing fighting games -- casualisation.>some genres rest entirely on their depth and gameplay integrity>dumbing-down destroy those genres
>>736389209>Drifting makes the car go faster in curves.That's what ruined my joy.>Going full realism or full arcade. Not in betweens.>Always the same damn cars. These games used to have a few cool concept cars unique and quite different from others.
>>736398231Racing games have been casual from day 1.
>>736398231but they were peak relevancy at their most casual with rubberbanding out the ass
>>736397832fzero has about as much cultural impact as starfox, ie just autistic nostalgia. That kind of maximalist sci-fi racing fantasy was also replaced by Redline which was more like a combo of wacky racers and some other ancient racing anime.
>>736398231racing games have only gotten less casual as time has gone on. Sims completely replaced the casual arcade experiences.
>>736398090How are the updates on wreckfest 2? Bought it last year and it was still pretty bare and haven't touched it for a while.
>>736398231>CasualForza H is actually a passable driving experience but all the other crap they put in it (especially the gacha progression) makes it shit.Meanwhile Gran Turismo has disappeared up its own ass of online simtard faggotry.
>>736398231>casualisationLol no, not with Sim existing. They go to Mario Kart instead, which this thread adamantly refuse to acknowledge.
Why don't you guys play a real racing game?
>>736399035I dont know im playing the first onesecond one doesnt seem like its very well received like the first
>>736399426all I know about this franchise is from smittyg but that killdozer dog looks based
I kinda wanted GT7 to come to PC but now I'm glad it was cancelled seeing how the future of GT and every other big racing game is being live service slop with 500 different DLC. Outside of emulation PC doesn't really have good simcade games (Forza sucks)BallisticNG is fucking great though easily the best arcade racing vidya on the market for years now
>>736396057tried this but it was just driving in a straight line for hours on end grinding epstein points
It's a genre for retards because it only has two inputs you can do, left or right.You are always pressing W.
>>736399675Bugbear made the mistake of launching the 2nd game with basically no content. Even if they had included a bunch of wreckfest 1 tracks with an art pass to make them a little fancier it would've gone a long way to not make it feel so barebones while they redo the car models for the enhanced destruction.At least this time though we aren't getting 6 months of blogposts going "lol we broke the physics engine completely in a re-write look at how wacky the cars behave xD". i'm still salty said physics rebuild stiffened everything up as they had to account for a console release
>racing game>W for forwardlol, lmao even
Reminder that this is a real racing game.
>>736389209>espcially NASCARIsn't NASCAR dying?
>>736391886no it fucking wasn't it had no sense of speed at all it just had a stupid little ui speedometer that '1000mph' and somehow that was enough for you
>>736400262>WE WANT THE MODERN AUDIENCE>close down tracks where its was popular>open up track in shit like California>no one watch it>WHY ARE WE LOSING MONEY?!!??Yes
>>736400281(wait im thinking of the n64 sequel, i never played this snes one. maybe the snes one is good)
"muh realism"
>>736399690That is a name I haven't seen in a while>look him up>nothing but fucking scatWhat the fuck.
It's a good thing racing esports never really took off. F1 esports just started last week and no one even knew about it.
I played Ridge Racer R4 and it was boring as fuck
>>736400604That is because F1 is no fun allowed and has been for best part of 20 years.
This is the sort of thing I want in my racing games.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSu2TSiDNGY>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLK25tv5C3I
>>736401208F1 feels terrible in games, it feels like your driving toy cars. I know they're supposed to handle like that but their performance is so good it doesn't feel like you're even driving a car anymore.
>>736401386The first one is literally the Angelus from Ridge Racer.
>>736401484>F1 feels terrible in games,Au contraire>>736401525Yes that is mentioned.
gotta go fast
>>736404457it always amazes me when i realize a dev actively used light, shadow and color to make a single repeating texture less obvious
>>736404838One thing NFS always did well in those early days was - as you say - a use of colour to break up the limited textures on display. Now admittedly NFS1 is still plain (though it tickles me in a way arcade games older than it or the high quality 2d racers on home consoles does) but from 2 onwards colour does a lot of heavy lifting in track design.I really should make some good quality webms of NFS2 now that I think about it.
>>736389209assetto corsa ultimate is only 10 bucks on key sites and has the most players on steam
>>736405168it scratches the same itch in my brain as the ps1 spyro games
>>736393438Canada too. In urban planning there is a massive push now to remove all parking requirements from zoning ordinances/bylaws. The idea is to force people to take their shitty transit full of fucking hobos and creeps. They are doing this to fight “climate change” and cars are European and therefor racist, oppressive colonialism. Their other favourite thing is congestion charges like London despite those being ineffective and just creating worse diesel bus pollution.
>>736405326While spyro is by nature more fantastical one thing early NFS did - at least to me - is paint a picture of a place that could exist. The sort of places where supercar manufacturers would ship their car out along with an entire camera team just to get promotional bullshots of. Wait until the sun is dipping just at the right time to get that 3/4 angle shot of the porsche 911 in stuttgart black or the perfectly still lake to park a lotus next to.also: long lotus is long because the menus aren't aspect corrected
>>736405615>long lotus is longoh my fucking god grandpa who let you on the internets
>>736389539Cope. New cars are putting out 400+ HP with relative ease. Just because you drive a camry doesnt mean everyone else is suffering
Anybody remember the Rush game with the stunt mode. Shit was amazing. Zoomers don’t drive usually nowadays by design and they only play 2-3 games exclusively after being lobotomized by mobile games.
>>736389209Make Uma Musume into drag racing and you will capture the NASCAR audience.
>>736406000I would play this 2 player for hours. Insane that something like this hasn't been replicated since
>>736405615I feel like TNFS is just kinda flat but a bit TOO 'it's real but in shit quality' because of it and NFS2's floating-in-the-void tracks are funny when you do big jumps and see the v o i d everywhere, but 3 is where they really hit the stride and it's like you said, a place that could exist, but mixed just enough with places that obviously do not, can not and will not. Like Hometown is just "EA Vancouver drove down to the PNW and recreated what they saw," or Redrock Ridge being "hmm yes I think this is what the desert looked like when I watched the X-Files," but then you have Aquatica's giant-ass underwater tunnel or Empire City in general which veer into completely fantastical yet still feel like they fit because that feeling of not-quite-reality echoes through all the menus and music and the CHECKERBOARD EGG and so on.>Hot Pursuit 2's track theming is almost a clone of NFS3's, especially the PS2 exclusive desert tracks cloning Redrock Ridge's split highway and giant dinosaur skeletons and mine tunnels and such>but they didn't remake Empire City or Atlanticabig sad forever
>double wide covered bridges don't actually exist, especially not in pairs of 2>drove all over the northwest in ATS and never found a Hometown analogue for a screenshot
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>>736391598Extreme-G was not a sequel to F-Zero.
>>736391886>>736400281>>736400361Extreme-G was not a sequel to F-Zero. >>736410337Its got its own sequel.
>>736392534>she doesn't know about the Spanish blood sausage™
>>736392695The regulations suck so much that even EA will not release a new F1 game this year, think about that for a second.E fucking A, which normally milks its sports licences releasíng a rehash every year, wont release one for these regulations.
>>736393032Where is Porsche Unleashed you uncultured swine?
>>736410524Wat? Can i have qrd for this issue?
>>736389451which is funny because the community just considers the Humvee obsolete and replaced by its superior upgrade.
>>7364110041. Too much focus on battery/energy managementThe biggest change is the ~50/50 split between engine and electric power.Drivers constantly have to harvest and deploy energyThey sometimes have to lift off the throttle on straights to rechargeCars can suddenly lose power when the battery runs out (“super-clipping”)This leads to weird situations where a driver is flat-out but still slowing downMany drivers say this feels unnatural and frustrating.-----------------------------------------------------------2. Racing feels “artificial”Instead of pushing flat-out, drivers are managing systems:Overtakes depend on who has battery left, not just skillThere’s even a manual boost system compared to Mario Kart Drivers like Lando Norris have literally called it “artificial” racingAnd Max Verstappen went as far as saying it’s “not racing” and “not fun at all”-----------------------------------------------------------3. Less emphasis on driver skill & braveryA lot of veterans hate this part:You’re rewarded for saving energy, not attackingDrivers brake earlier or avoid pushing to optimize battery useSome say it removes the “edge” and risk-taking from F1It shifts the sport from “who is fastest” “who manages systems best”
>>736404838only for a remake to do some global illumination shit and the street lights look all fucked up. Someone posted a picture of the 90s with the orange lights and stars in the sky because the light pollution wasn't that bad. Now in modern games you get shitty sky map backgrounds with subpar sunsets because they let the engine deal with it all and lights that lack any atmosphere just the generic white bright illumination.
>>736392534These cutouts are life size btw. Alonso really is the same height as an average japanese girl.
I miss the era of grabbing a sports car or muscle car and driving into things while nu-metal plays and maybe being chased by the cops. Maybe it's like disco, it came and went.
>>736411151Jfc, that's basically management sim not racing man
how the fuck do you control this thing, MR setup is insanebetter question, how do you use the triggers as analog input in retroarch
>>736393631love when racing games had drum n bass, techno or even jazz/funk music
>>736411151
why havent you taken the gran 7 turismo pill yet?beautifuldrives extremely wellgood multiplayershitton of carsgood customizationit has it all
>>736389209>What killed racing games?electric cars
>>736390424That and the lawsuits about guns made gaming companies start being a lot more stingy about shit in general. It's why most shooters in the AAA sphere are using knockoff guns, and most cars are explicitly licensed deal shit and everything else is generic knockoffs, like what happened with RE9.
>>736392635>>736392708>>736395520>>736397982nta, i remember having the first two trackmanias but never getting online play with it, and their failed attempt at shootmaniawhat trackmanias are alive/good in the present day
>>736389209>no pop up headlights>no superminis>no spare wheels>no windshield sunstrips>no hood ornaments>no t topsthey're killing the automobile industry
>>736412185united forever
>how do you save the racing games genre?
I don't think the word "lose" even appears in a modern racist game.
>>736411926Cool but I'll play 2003 without monthly fee
>>736413186>I'll do nothing but bitch and moan on the internetok
>>736412185go on steam and just look for "Trackmania". tm2020 is still very alive. also just got a massive infusion of saudi money so
>>736389209https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVulshxI_Vs&list=PL8IlfSkrTmoG-Lzn0h8wn2GA-PwBn3DPc&index=7
>>736415049Trackmania Turbo got lots of publicity on release but I barely ever heard of Trackmania 2020, was it a stealth release?
>>736389209They were absorbed into other games, such as Grand Theft Auto.
>>736405510They want to remove parking because parking is fucking expensive and leafs love penny pinching every last penny.
>>736415163Not sure to be honest, I only found it like 3 years ago. I started by watching Wirtual cover it and ended up playing it myself after not having played since the original + canyon.
>>736389209They just didn't progress beyond barebones graphics improvements. They can't capture the sense of speed - only game I know that got pretty close was burnout paradise. Even the sound of engines just isn't there, and again - b:p got pretty close
>>736389209they already made nr2003, theres no real need for a new one, you can mod whatever season you want into it
>>736415210Why is the driving so shit in gta then.
>>736415624No idea.
>>736389209because racing games are fucking boring. the novelty of 3D has long worn off and f&f isnt popular anymore, the genre has fallen back into just being simslop catered to autists that can barely be considered a game, or worthless library padding so companies can show off their newest graphicsslop. if more racing games thought outside the box and had actually interesting stories and characters, people would like them way more and they would be able to stand alongside other games. everybody loves driver san francisco whether they like cars or not, and the story is pretty barebones. but it has its moments and it has a really cool gimmick with the shift mechanic which opens all kinds of gameplay possibilities, which makes it fun even for someone who cant instantly recognize all the cars included
>>736389209monetisation, like all vidya
>>736411620"Real car prices". Would like to get into the multiplayer again tho, had a blast in GT5
>>736415808They don't know how to make interesting stories about racing because it is a boomer subculture they didn't experience. They think the fantasy is about being a social media influencer, a celebrity motorsports gayboy or a pride parade attendee. Stories about drifting shitboxes up and down mountains or blasting down highways comes from proximity to real kids doing stupid but cool shit with their cars.The millenials making forza horizon 6 are making farming simulator trailers and are talking about evoking ghibli, they are completely disconnected from even fictional car culture.
>>736416231its impossible to make a good story "about racing". any story that you make "about racing" you can imagine in your head with 0 effort while playing gran turismo. they should write stories that are about something else with racing or driving as the main gameplay.
>>736415808>if more racing games thought outside the box and had actually interesting stories and characters, people would like them way more and they would be able to stand alongside other games.This timestamp in this video argues the same as youhttps://youtu.be/WVry84ACu0k?si=1OaEINTlcxJeuoeG&t=1460
>>736416425I mean, we have race stories in film, television, no one really gawks at most of that besides Fast & Furious being the absurdity it became. Rivalries, championships, the thrill of the risk involved, trying to make a name for oneself is tales as old as time but people love that shit when it's done right. Modern Need for Speed and especially fucking Unbound is NOT done right by comparison. There's just something bizarre about modern game stuff that's the most family friendly things possible despite the swearing tossed around, a power fantasy without the tension or intrigue.
>>736389356They also don't want to see their precious designs being damaged. It makes for boring racing or driving without any sense of consequence.
>>736416425>>736416231>>736415808I don't want you in my racing games.Go back to Claire Obscure Gay expedition 33Or Final Gaytasy or whatever "story" you enjoy and leave real racing,arcade,replayable games to us like BURNOUT or CRAZY TAXI or NEED FOR SPEED or any other old or newer gems such as Metropolis Street Racer,Sega Rally,Wreckfest,etc.Go back you fucking storyNIGGERS.
DiRT Rally 3 had to be sacrificed to get the WRC license back to KT Racing. I just hope they won't force online-only account activation again like in WRC Generations. WRC 8-10 was a good run
>>736413728>paypiggybeatings will continue
>>736416425It's actually pretty easy to make stories about racing, it's just a sports anime with cars and these kinds of narratives are universal. The problem is you have to be retro or invent your own setting because modern motorsports is boring as fuck and outside that zoomers are vapid and only want to compete over being internet famous
>>736412661I've watched far too many of those pig racing videos from that channel than i'd like to admit and i'd do it again. piggy smalls is best
>>736389209Whatever, just tell me what game this is where I can race using a countash
>>736416581I dont want narrative, I want cool settings, interesting aesthetics and soundtracks. These come from some amount of world building and creativity, not jerking off to simulator physics or regurgitating stale fast and furious shit from the 90s
>>736391000the Daytona 24H is extremely kino irlsame sort of experience except it's a whole day and night and you get all kinds of different engine sounds, multiple classes and car types, and drivers of wildly varying skill.also you MUST salute the Dale statue outside the front gate by law
>>736416892Ah fug looks like it's a top gear boomerslop game, looked good though
>>736416570That's partly true, both Assetto Corsa EVO (and even the original) plus Project Motor Racing have pretty fun damage model. PMR has all these little parts flying out of your cars.Too bad that PMR was released due to its time, it is clearly unfinished.
Is FH5 a convenient enough pirate? I didn't have issues with FH3 but it using the microsoft launcher gave me agita.
>>736417117The steam version just werks, the UWP crap never does.
>>736416581>Claire Obscure Gay expedition 33very creative
This good or not?
>>736417258no
When was the last time a racing game had a good soundtrack?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Q-UvuIzvo
>>736389209Racing master will finally be released globally on May 8I'm hyped for the best arcade handling in a decade
>>7364171174 and 5 are easy pirates.
>>736410659Electronic Arts era - lower left cover - the red 911.
>>736417435Motorstorm pacific rift.
>>736405912That's actually part of the problem, shitty ugly people movers do 400hp now, but they're ugly people movers that no one is going to put posters on their wall for.The other part is the supercars/hypercars/ultracars are all ugly af now. Actually that's been a problem for over a decade (fucking Zonda made everything turbo ugly)
>>7364171175 isn't worth pirating. 4 is easy and it's fun.
>>736417258i want to try this out since i like story games but i dont want to play some shitty ai generated slop and i dont trust milestone to not do that so i will probably just sit it out. people seem to generally like it on steam but people who expected it to be burnout or most wanted but with aur tee ecks really hate it
>>7364177505 is just 4 but in mexico with more cars. which is just 3 but in scotland with more cars. i liked treasure island more than the rally dlc though
>>736417836Just take a guess what 6 will be like.
>>736417435Wreckfesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYkqRZkXnCQ
>>736417668
>>736416603didnt they just die?
>>736417836Racing down the fortune island mountain at night in the middle of a thunderstorm (bonus points if you have HDR on) is absolutely exquisite.
>>736418146yeah, codemasters bought slightly mad studios and then cm itself was bought by EA, they worked on NFS Unbound and were promptly dissolved
>>736418146No, not yetTheir parent company filed for insolvencyThey might be able to keep making games if they are sold to someone or somehow their parent company find money to pay back the loans
>>736395654explain please, I am genuinely curious why you'd think that
>>736418267>>736418385To summarize, CM/EA botched EA Sports WRC. Then the WRC license went back to Nacon. KT/Nacon screwed up TDU Solar Crown, and is suffering financially. Codemasters is history, KT Racing might still survive to continue the WRC series. Which would be good because they have very recent experience working with the title and put out genuinely good rally games (with some jank and bugs etc., but really good tracks).
>>736411620>good multiplayerIs the penalty system still bad? I used to play GT Sport online and eventually quit because of the penalty system, repeated races and PSN price increases.
Solar crown is an abomination.
>>736418983They are trying to fix it, and some people have started enjoying it I heard. Would be nice since the concept is good
>>736419284I feel nostalgic just by watching that.... Plus saddened, I wish there was a game where you could tune your own car with custom art, basically jpgs a la CS 1.6 and blast custom music that other players could hear
>>736419975i tell ye xmas 2003 was pretty great for me as I got that (for ps2) as a present. Fun times. These days I play the pc version because of all the advantages modern computing offers but it does still hit the same feels.
>>736418870is the online still fucked on wrc generations? steam reviews make it sound like the game is basically unplayable now
I've been a racist for over 30 years.
>>736419975no chance in the modern gaming world
all current affordable cars look ugly as fuck. all have that same shitty suv single mom look. idk how to explain it. just wish old car designs would make a comeback on shit that is affordable.
>>736421243I haven't heard about that. But I specifically did not buy Generations after 10 because it had some forced online account creation BS. V-Rally 4 also had crashing issues after KT put the servers down, so I did not buy that one either.
>>736390323Open world ruins every single genres.
>>736397217it's a vibe for sure but no it's great
>>736422570Environmental regulations (everything is "smooth" without clear shapes or identity) and most people have garbage taste (digital panels and "futuristic" look) my guess
>>736423781>Environmental regulations (everything is "smooth" without clear shapes or identity)how does everything being smooth and ugly helps with environmental regulations?
>>736423609Angel studios and maybe criterion (but only once) were the only people to get it right.
>>736423829Aerodynamic design for fuel efficiency. Makes the average car designs look uglier. But I don't know why Zonda, Bugatti etc. is also a trend, they could do better instead of these abominations
>>736411290Isn't F1 like horse racing? The smaller and lighter the driver, the better?
>>736424447There is a reason why all active F1 drivers are lean and mean manlets.
>>736389209>What killed racing gamesNo sexy car waifus
>>736389209Racing was one of those extra genres I always owned one or two titles of and played for something different and then those motherfucker tried to start charging me extra for shit and I decided I didn't need a racing game THAT much. I still buy them on sale for under 10 bucks every once in a while.
>>736391598Luv me some trackmania.
racing is saved bros
>>736425238This makes me wonder how many people actually read the staggering amount of text information in GT1 and 2. Not only did all the how to drive instructions and principles the license tests teach you get duplicated in the manuals each of the car tuning options had a swathe of text explaining them as well. Plus you got text for every car saying something about it and often the history of the manufacturer too.
>>736391219>cute red-head cavegirl fighting robot dinosaurs with a bunch of primitive toolsSorry I like third person action games, anon. Just play on the hardest difficulty like any Sony 1st party game and it's fun.
>>736391219Sorry I'm retarded and forgot what thread I was in. I will sudoku now.
>>736425573>I will sudoku now.errm, ackshually the term is suzuki.
>>736425524Probably about as many people as the ones that read their own car's manual.
>>736394556>>736391587I've been playing Rage Racer for the first time since I wondered why Type 4 is the most talked about but not Rage itself. And oh my fucking god what are these physics, handling, and dogshit hitboxes. Granted I know it was made for that fucking Namco controller, but all the questionable design choices keep hammering inside my head despite trying to give it a chance.At least the soundtrack is banging and the Assoluto Fatalita is pure sex.>>736391982Already finished my playthroughs with both Sega Rally 2 Arade editions.
Should I try Burnout Dominator? Revenge left me disappointed with how inferior it was compared to 3.
>>736389209They made the perfect racing game (Gran Turismo 4) in 2004They made the perfect car (Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR) in 1997There's nowhere left to go with any of it
burnout ruined racing game discourse forever
>>736422331I wouldn't be so sure, it feels like potential streamerbait to me
>>736426171The only wonky part of rage is the drifting which nobody seems to ever nail down. The hitboxes behave just like the first two games but the big difference is the tracks are considerably narrower so the player needs to be much more careful and precise with their pacing to ensure they reach the top finishing cars at a point on the track when passing is sensible. I do hate that hump in the extreme oval though.
>>736419975there are fuckloads of games with custom liveries, did you just wake up from a 30 year coma or something?
>>736393032What is it like to play with a steering wheel and pedals? I've always wanted to try those controllers but never bought one.
>>736426618sex with reiko 4, reiko 5, and reiko 2, in that order
