What does /v/ think about Playstation's upcoming answer to the Switch 2/Steam Deck 2?
>>736396585I used to joke when I was a kid about having a PS5 during the time the PS2 was the latestNow not only does that exist with exactly the same unimaginative name, but a PS6 is also in the works...
>>736396585It's going to be a locked down piece of shit with zero value
>handheldwhy do these companies keep pushing for phone-tier hardware and games/graphics to matchi'm not even a consolefag but if i were i'd be mad>i only play at home, literally no reason to have a portable device>shittier graphics and performance in favour of portability>battery means swelling and potential issues in future vs. traditional console that needs very little maintenanceetc.
>>736396756Graphical improvements have plateaued, especially for console prices, so now it's all about muh portability
>>736396756>whypic
>>736396585handheld with no games wont sell
>>736396756>phone-tier hardwareWe're already at a point where diminishing returns make further investment into raw power pointless. The PS5/XSX have more than enough power to run games natively at 4K/60fps, but developers have been wasting those specs with retarded shit that tanks performance while not looking any better than the stuff made for older consoles. Portability simply has wider mass appeal than having some giant loud shitbox playing the same stuff at marginally better settings, and at that point you're better off buying a PC anyway.
>>736396585>handheld to play 60hr walking Sims with 4 hr long talk segmentslol
>>736396756>Nintendo releases a console that's going to end up being the best selling of all time (unless Sony pulls another couple million PS2 sales out of their ass)>Surprised that Microsoft and Sony start producing their own hybrid consolesIt's a copycat industry anon.
do people really need this many handhelds
>>736397191Switch 2 is doing fine
>handheldsDo not deserve any thought
>>736396585Can't wait to see how expensive it is with both the Concord Tax and now Marathon Tax driving it up.
>>736397412yeah it has games
>>736397478bahahahahaha
>>736397281>We're already at a point where diminishing returns make further investment into raw power pointlessHeard the same during PS2 times, funny
>Copying nintendo AGAIN
>>736397701technically PSP was natively dockable before the Snitch
>>736396585I don't have understand the modern luxury handheld market. Not only are they expensive but they're bulky as hell and can't fit in your pocket. You'd have to bring a purse or backpack with you just to keep the thing safe. I try to stay alert in public too, the phone is as far as I go as distractions go. I would never bring shit that gives me comfort at home with me in public anyway. They're two separate spaces and I like keeping them that way.
>>736396585I dont give a shit about portability. I just want a damn device that i dont need an internet connection to use and i can get physical games for, yet even that is too much to expect from these shitty companies anymore.
>>736398012>physicallolconsoles will be making that completely extinct, its existence is actively hurting them
>>736397601And they were right, 6th gen games are better than modern ones and were made with a fraction of the budget and in much less time.
>>736396756Because newer generations can't into computers, and there's a heavy market for it in Japan
it does not matter, they will make every playstation exclusive run on both ps5 and ps6 for the entire generation.There is nothing that a ps6 can offer that is actually new besides improved raytracing and a better cpu
>>736399021Sony have fuck all software to prop this up, nintendo had ton of killer apps ready for switch release window.
>>736399163so same as ps5, which was a big success
>>736396756>phone-tier hardwareI wish. x86 anything isn't good hardware for a phone, you'd have to resort to ARM emulation for 85% of apps
>>736396585It's gonna be big time, the deck 2 is already dead if it is even happening
Sony will go bankrupt once steam machine and Xbox helix release . PlayStation will never top the vita as a handheld
>>736397191I think they're hoping it will stream from the main console or play low graphic versions of games. I'll let them cook before making judgment.
As usual its going to be ruined by Sony pushing their faggoty expensive proprietary bullshit like memory cards or other worthless shit. To this day that is the sole reason I believe the PSP and Vita never did as well as the Nintendo handhelds.Well that better handheld games I suppose.
>>736397597you lost snoy-15,000karma to sony
>no gaqmes on their current system>raising prices on every system>closing studios left and right>hardware is getting more expensive for everyone and it already ahs to compete with steam deck and Xbox's handheld>somehow wants a piece of the Switch 2 pie when even valve couldnt make a dent in its masrketshare10m lifetime sales, only because snoys will buy literally anything with the PS logo on it. It will make the vita look like a grand success
>>736400719>Sony pushing their faggoty expensive proprietary bullshitI don't think they have the balls to push that shit after what happened to the Vita, it's basically a death sentence in today's market. I still doubt it has any chance of competing against the Switch 2 though. Sony doesn't have enough first-party studios to face Nintendo's output and movieslop isn't well suited for handhelds either way.
>>736396585>at least $1000 at launch >handheld >it will have to either gut its graphics and thus turn off the usual retards who buy sony, or have the worst battery life of any handheld ever made>zero backwards compatibility unless they decide to try put a disk drive into a handheld, making it way bigger and heavier and also making it prone to disk read errors
>>736397776technically the game boy was dockable before the pisspee
>>736401385You would have said the same about the PS5, yet its likely at 95m right now
>>736401769its nowhere close to 95, but anyway drones dont buy handhelds the same way they do barrierstations
>>736401852ps portal was successful and sold millions as a cloud device, imagine a proper handheld
>>736396585>Playstation's upcoming answerTheir answer will be to not make any good games for it? Didn't PlayStation (California) shut down every single Japanese studio but one? Are they going to use another Horizon to embezzle funds from Sony?
>>736401932>ps portal was successful and sold millions as a cloud devicehow much did it sell?
>>736399163Sony does have the software. That's why all their home consoles have sold 85 million+. It doesn't even need to be good software, just as long as it has more than their competition. Apparently this is too hard for a multi trillion company like Microsoft which is why Xbox is dying. For Nintendo, previously their hardware was too weak but they're slowly gaining an edge. Also, most "people" play gacha or F2P shit, and their closest competitor now (Nintendo) will never get that besides Fortnite, which is slowly dying.
>>736401979it had something like a 7 percent attach rate in the united states alone so far.
>>736402013that didnt answer my question
>>736402004>Sony does have the software.it quite literally doesnt. Every exclusive they have sold like shit and their heavy hitters are multiplats, which are available on steam deck and switch 2`
>>736401932ps portal is just an accessory, even though sony lies and counts it as a console sale
>>736402041well hopefully you arent retarded and can make a healthy inference from said figure. that is in the millions for USA alone
>>736402004>Sony have softwarelol, lmao even, they are utter and completely dependent of third parties to keep whole thing afloat. Ball and gun makes money but shit going dry soon or later.
>>736402225>it was successful and sold millions>no I cant actually give a number
>>736402268must be like the vita did so bad that sony STILL refuses to report the sales numbers
There has been "rumors" and "leaks" that some kind of PSP/PSV successor since the early PS4 days. There has been "rumors" and "leaks" that there is a Hybrid Switch like system coming since the Switch came out. 13 years of "rumors" and "leaks".
>>736402268>>736402303we know that it has a 7 percent attach rate in the USA alone, ps5 has sold multiple tens of millions in USAdo the math idiot
>>736402420>I have no idea how much the portal sold, but um...THE PS5 SOLD WELL!!!!lol
>>736402461PS portal has 7 percent attach rate in USAPS5 has sold 32m in North America, mostly being USAdo some math
>>736396756>phone-tier hardwareretard
>>736402659you can keep repeating this, but the two have nothing to do with each other. You have no idea how much the portal sold
>>736402723why do they not have anything to do with each other?
>>736402802because the PS5 and portal arent the same thing, retard kun
>>736396585they are proving nintendo was right as usual
>>736402303Instead, they roll it into the total PS5 hardware sales.
>>736402819why do you think they said attach rate? because its an accessory. if ps5 sold 30m in usa, and ps portal sold 7 percent of that, what do you get?
>>736402929why do you think the attach rate of handheld is related to the console sales of a completely different hardware unit
>>736402848Exactly.
>caco hallucinating consoles again while coping and seething people arent playing along with his delusions
>>736402985because it is a ps5 accessory
>>736397412Actually is underperforming and they cut the production line.
>>736396585Didn't söygays get a ps5 handheld? What's the big deal
>>736396756Because the games that make the most money can run on a phone. Simple as.
>>736403042that doesnt answer the question at all
>>736403064the attach rate is how many have been sold in relation to how many ps5s are out there.
>>736403132so I'll ask you once again. How many portals have been sold
>>736396585the vita was a really good handheld for its time. I hope they'll be able to make something comparably as good for today's standards
>>736403168what is 7 percent of 25-30m? and thats before the rest of the world.
>>736403050A shitty overpriced streaming one, it doesn't actually play anything natively and still requires you to own a PS5. It's basically a worse Wii U gamepad.
>>7364032151,750,000, which is absolutely pitiful
>>736403270given that it is kind of a crummy streaming device, it's not terrible. imagine what a dedicated one will sell.
>>736403309>it sold millions!!!!>did not in fact even sell multiples of a million>uh well imagine what the handheld WILL sell!!lmao
>>736402091It quite literally does, otherwise Sony would've been completely obliterated and it would just be Nintendo and PC left. As you can tell, Sony has not been obliterated. Also, "having the software" doesn't just mean their first party moviegames, it means all the other crap too, which Sony always gets every generation.>>736402236No shit they're reliant on third-parties, they have been since the middle of PS4's era, which was nearly a decade ago. Also, even if ball and gun is dying (the ball part isn't, considering EA Sports still tops the chart every year in Europe), Sony will always have the latest gachaslop, F2P kiddie diddie sim like Roblox, and GTA to keep them afloat.
>>736403309>a shitty streaming handheld with less games and triple the price imagine how it will sell
>>736403382>>736403353retard is ignoring the fact that those figures were only from USAits going to be dedicated
>>736403361>sony has more price increases than games>has shuttered at least half its studios>nah that doesnt mean anything, look how much theyre making because of FIFA and fortnite cucksbizarre hill to die on
>>736403415yeah it will sell even worse in several other countries
>>736403415>it sold fuck all, but um, IMAGINE WHAT THE EURO NUMBERS ARE(which I dont know)lmao
wild that handhelds are still in the conversation at all
>>736403463you now remember the cope about switch 2 selling like crazy and breaking every record was "y-y-y-yeah well IF PS5 had stock it would have broken records as well!"
>>736403361You mean since forever, issue is that sony no longer have grip on whole market like before, their whole market is shrinking due lack of steady flow of titles everyone praise snes or PS2 because it have lot of niche or minor titles alongside big boy ones.Also rising costs fuck over whales and codfifa tards, why bother buying a 900 dollar console when they can get one for half of price that plays same thing with little to no difference.
>>736403361>that imagedude, stop reminding me how fucked I am.
>>736396585>download the YouTube appThere's your PS6
>>736403418No hill here. I'm just explaining that Playstation consoles will always have F2P garbage that the hundred million userbase of consolecucks will happily throw money at, which is why they won't go away anytime soon despite /v/ believing so. Until Nintendo starts sucking China cock for gachashit (they won't) or pedoslop (they won't) then Sony will always be alive.>b-b-b-bbbut PC!!If all these consolefags knew how to use one, they would have done so already. Yet they don't, so that's why Playstation home consoles still still 85 million+ units every generation. This is what the Steam Machine was supposed solve but Valve doesn't really give a shit.
>>736396585The only reason the vita survived as long as it did was because Japan kept making games for it. Since then Sony has lost a grand majority of Japan. We also know the western side won't support the system beyond its first year so it'd be deader than the Ouya.
>>736396585Since sony doesn't make games I find their hardware really overrated.
>>736396585wow now I can play boring garbage on the go!
>>736404238neither does nintendo
>>736405230literally just released pokeopia, little bro
>>736405359and ps5 is getting saros soon
>>736405395>and ps5 is getting saros soonnot getting a PS5 is proving to be a better choice every day
>>736405468>deflectionSony makes games.
>>736405395saros is the only exclusive video GAME on the console which is a shame but at least that dev probably won't get killed for a bit
>>736405230>b-b-but NintendoEvery time.>>736405495then ends service after two weeks
>>736405547>probably
>>736405547they JUST got God of War Sons of Sparta too
>>736405629They've been doing good even at their lowest point when they had to shift away from PURE arcade style games.
>>736405665>game looks like a bad newgrounds flash game >snoys paid money for this
>>736401385>only because snoys will buy literally anything with the PS logo on ithow are those portal sales huh?
>>736405395I dont see what that has to do with what I said but ok
