Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing? I feel bad for it because I never see anyone talk about it compared to the rest of the series, so I might as well give it a shot.
>>736399404>Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing?No, not really. Don't listen to the Lightning simps, by the way. They will lie about this game.
I'm really sick of whoever autist this is who keeps making these 13 threads. Games bad lil zoom zoom.
>>736399404Caleb isn't going to finish it
No, RPGs from the 7th generation are all trash.
>>736399696Blue Dragon was comfy
>>736399728Imagine my shock when I found out Uematsu made the soundtrack for that. He literally phoned it in
>>736399404It's good for one play through. I had an okay time with it.
>>736399404It is a chase story which justifies the hallway level design for most of the game.The music is fantastic and the characters are pretty good (I played the game in JP dub)The paradigm shift system has its own interesting level of strategy compared to typical atb systems from the earlier emtries in the ff franchise.Its worth giving a shot. You still might not like it.
>>736399404Its the best FinalFantasy game ever made to this day, there's a reason why they made 3parts of this game
>>736399609I told him this and he said "there's a reason I'm not finishing it now, you retard."
>>736399404It's fine. FFfags are just autists
>>736399404i like the series. lightning was half the reason i bought a PS3. if you're on a modded PS3 or PC play with it hacks and just blow through the grinding sections
>>736399404It looks good, has great music, and it plays well (except that bullshit when you paradigm shift the first time and the characters need to pose), so it's still a solid game for one playthrough. The story is my main problem, you can tell that they had big plans but because of development problems they had to cut down the content. The beginning especially is a mess, they just drop you into their world and terminologies and they don't spend that much time building up how their world works and the main characters' backstories.
No. It is worse than fucking hoyoslop thats how bad final fantasy truly is
>>736400582Well, are you a retard?
>>736399404>Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing?Yes.
>>736399404The map design is fine, what's more egregious is the combat design making the game a tutorial for a non exaggerated 9 chapters of its 13. Its a shame because the gameplay really hits its stride when the systems open themselves up and FFXIII-2 does a better job at getting you onto the main pace sooner.
>worth playingyes, just to experience it. Play 3 hours if you can, that will give you an idea of what the game is. It never gives you free reign and continues to dump mechanics on you until about an hour before the end of the game, 30-some hours in.It's not a good game. It's serviceable, and you can see elements that clearly were meant to have incredible depth that never get to shine because the game's a very very narrow hallway. Like, people said FFX was a hallway, ff13 is a hallway.ff13-2 fixes a lot of those issues, but is equally mediocre in terms of story.A lot of conceptual things like l'cie and fal'cie, basically deities and the servants to them were meant to be expanded upon HEAVILY with shit like what became ff15, ff0, etc. And most games in the whole noval crystallis line got retooled to other worlds because 13 did so poorly.
>>736399404It's alright, not great, skates short of particular good. Some good stuff. A lot of flaws.XIII-2 corrects some of the flaws for the better. Has a better story experience if you're into time travel wankery, too.LR is trash. Don't get memed.
>>736399404you won't be doing a lot of "playing" but there's some cool visuals and the music is pretty good so yeah give it a shot
>>736402471I still think XIII-2 edges out on story purely by how well noel and serah bounce off eachother, though the literal lightning wankfest weighs down the story from the sheer absurdity.
>>736402735In terms of literal quality, yes, 13-2 is better, it tells the story more efficiently, mostly because they took all the scrapped shit from 13 and put it in, then worked around it, rather than trying to have 35 different arks that all got cut right before launch lmao.I think 13-2 is better on the whole, but a significant portion of that is the gameplay just being given way more room to shine, very little to do with the story which is serviceable even at its best.
>>736399404Not really. The game isn't bad at all but it certainly isn't a great game. Personally I never liked the role system that much and the roster is fucking awful.
>>736399404i finished it a couple of weeks ago for the first time, i'm happy i went through it for completition's sakes but after the middle point it became an unsufferable slog. It's probably the most slow and boring final fantasy of all of them, the story is retarded but uses a lot of complicated words to sound deep (very kingdom hearts in that regard) and nothing the characters do or say is either interesting or makes sense. There's also a fucking Leona Lewis song at the end for no reason at all. Combat System is fun but 80% of the game can be beat by applying the very first strategy you'll be taught in the tutorial. However it's a pretty looking game and the soundtrack is pretty great.
>>736402834I agree that even with character interactions the story balances out to just being serviceable. Gameplay wise I don't think FF has ever had a better final boss than jet bahamut
>>736399404No, terrible game both story and gameplay. Only praised by FFXIII's Barry.
Story13>13-3>>>>>13-2Gameplay13-2>13-3>>>13I really enjoyed 13-3. I know a lot of people shit on the time limit but it's really not a problem. As long as you do minimal planning you can easily 100% with time left over. It's not like Dead Rising where it takes extreme levels of planning and prior knowledge to 100% in a single playthrough. Some of the story beats were dumb. Specifically I remember there is a side quest where this guy asks you to deliver a letter to his son or something that he's been afraid to, unable to talk to him since the calamity 500 years prior. It turns out his son is like 20 feet away. They've been standing next to each other for 500 years and never said hihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47TZEpkWLsA
>>736399404No. Just stick to FF7/8/9/10/12 and the earlier boomer ones.
>>736399404No. I went in to it expecting the hate to be overblown, especially since I don't see linearity as being inherently bad. I quickly discovered that it deserves all the hate, and then some.>>736401456Let's not go crazy, now. It might be garbage, but it's still better than any and all gacha shit.
>>736399404it's the worst FF title in the franchise, but you knew that already and just wanted another FFXIII thread.
>>736399404It's kino. I liked the job system, the story and character design. people hate it because it was the first ff to be linear.
>>736404421>job systemlol
>>736404490role system? i liked it.
>>736404512you don't get to pick anything role wise, you just auto pick if you want to defend, attack, or buff yourself.
>>736404367The only reason people cared about this shit game was for the main character (very shallow reason btw) wich gachaslop provide in a weekly basis with better looking designsIm not defending gachaslop here just pointing the fact that gacha is what ff13 would be if it release today complete utter slop
>>736399404>Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing?No. It's fine to consider it one of the bad ones and not play it.
>Cast libra>Begin spamming autobattle>SYN/SAB/MED>COM/RAV/RAV>COM/COM/COM>Use SEN if there's a scripted attack that requires it>Rinse and repeatIt's shit and so are its sequels
No. Not at all. And I loved XIII-2 and LR:XIII.There are better games you could be playing instead. Don't wallow in filth because you feel bad for the mud.
>>736406914> 5> s tier
>>736406914Why is 3 so low? Curious as to your thoughts on it
>>736399404It's very pretty. It has a sometimes fun battle system. The story becomes interesting after FORTY hours and the music is some of the best Final Fantasy has ever made. That's about it. So no not really. Unless those things are enough to keep you around. It's my personal "gets good 30 hours in" game.
>>736399404Yea. The combat is the best part. If anyone says "you can beat the game with auto battle only" then you can instantly tell they never actually played.
>>736407264NTA but I fucking hate 3, it's been over a decade since I played through it but>setting and story really aren't interesting in the least, final boss comes completely out of nowhere>job system penalizes you for switching jobs by debuffing you, then mandates switching jobs for certain parts of the game>also the jobs are poorly balanced, several have no real reason to ever be used>final dungeon is a very annoying gauntlet
>>736399404No. Next question
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>>736407485That's fucking crazy that they designed the box to look just like one of the maps from the game
>>736407264I just don't like how it handles the job system>Capacity points/job sickness are both shit mechanics (thankfully PR removed this)>The mini dungeons suck ass>Job progression feels really weird and eventually you just get new jobs that invalidate old jobs>You will almost always be funneled into a party of Sages and Ninjas>Final stretch is absolutely brutal, and not in a fun way. The final boss can just shit out attacks that wipe you sometimesI'd just always rather play 1 or 5 than ever pick up 3 again. The music is great, but that goes for all of the first 10 so it doesn't amount to much
>>736407458>job system penalizes you for switching jobs by debuffing youNot any of you anons either, but stop playing remakes. (It's quite understandable to dislike the 3D remake. I can't stand it either, while I consider the original excellent, bordering on masterpiece, in certain qualities unequalled in the series.)
>>736399404Final Fantasy games are played for the story and characters, and both are awful. It's the most inhumane and hollow of the entire series, and, yes, that includes the NES titles. The theme is literally>CHALLENGE FATEFuck this shitty cancerous piece of shit game so hard. FFXV and FFXVI both suck hard, but I'd recommend either and both long before I'd ever tell anyone to touch the trash that is XIII.
>>736407878Sorry, let me addendum that>job system penalizes you for switching jobs by debuffing you (3D remake)/making you grind for points when you want to change (NES)Better?
>>73640803716 is fine and pretty fun. But 15 and 13 are amongst the weakest in the series. They fucked up bad.
>>73640822016 is awful. I mean, the gameplay is decent, though repetitive. And it's kind of cool that the MC is a chad who wins fights instead of jobbing. But beyond that, everything about it is terrible.>one-dimensional, underdeveloped characters>literal environmental themes in a medieval GoT-inspired setting>not enough time spent setting up the brother relationship, which the game literally lives or dies on>entire sections of the game that are just filler with no plot or character relevance
My first video games ever were RE2 and FF7 on the ps1. Those two have left an indelible mark on me. RE is fine because the modern games have been very enjoyable to me, with only a couple exceptions like RE3 remake. FF is fucking cancer. I played 8,10,13,15 and they were mid to ass. Idk why the recent FF games just haven't been as solid as RE.
>>736408335NTA but 16 is the kind of game where you can tell me everything wrong with it, and I'll agree with most of it, but still come out enjoying it. I dunno what it is but I just like it
>>736408335Can you please tell me 16 is at least better than 13 or 15?
>>736408621Washing dishes is better than FF15. Like he said, FF16 gameplay is fun enough. The story is disappointing at times, mostly in that it seems like it's going to do one thing and goes in a completely different direction. I'd still follow the story, though you won't be "blown away by the ending" or whatever.
>>736399404FINALLY a good thread!
>>736408820>>736408621Personally, I rate 15 higher than 16. 15 had better gameplay with the open world and random battles, some of which were pretty hard. Also, there was enough of a mystery to string you along in 15, whereas nothing about 16 is mysterious: you, as an audience member knows that the protagonist didn't kill his brother, yet the game wastes so much time with the MC being angsty and regretful about it. And there were a couple moments in 15 towards the end that were genuinely touching, whereas 16's emotional moments all fell flat for me.
>>736408096>making you grind for points when you want to changeThat really isn't a problem after a while, when you're drowning in points. Game design simulating gaining experience and growing stronger at adapting. As long as you don't switch Jobs like a spastic at the start, you should be fine. But I'm glad about your clarification. I personally don't need it to be that freeform, but I can see that being annoying for some.
>>736408995Retarded faggot.
>>736399404Of course, it has Vanille
>>736408995Based king.
>>736399404I liked the second game, but I've never played the other two. Cool final boss theme.
>>736399404It's a one and done experience with zero replay value. The OST is 10/10 and the story and characters are fine, but the gameplay is dog shit and it's the worst iteration of the ATB system because the AI for the party breaks often.
>>736399404The gameplay is significantly better than any other final fantasy game. Including xiii-2
>>736399404>Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing?I'll say you should figure out if you like the characters first. It's a game that's probably made or broken for someone based on whether they find the cast likeable.
I've never played a single game in the series. XV looks interesting to me, is it a good starting point?
>>736417970https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2weNM4JtME
>>736418113I'm going to take this as a no. Something about it looks pretty interesting to me, idk what
It takes like 10 hours before you're finally out of the "tutorial", all characters are shit except for sazh and the story itself is forgettable. XIII-1 and XIII-2 are worth playing and vanille is great.
>>736418202If you want an actual starting point, pick any version of FF1, 4, 7, or 10
>>736399404The first one is unironically kino, just make sure to read the journal entries between chapters. Skip the sequels, they're garbage.
>>736399404Its genuinly bad, I'd just watch a cutscene movie on YouTube. But be aware you might also bounce right off the story, so temper you expectations on that front too.
>>73641829113 has the best party after 9. The way it dynamically shifts due to conflicts between the party members is fucking amazing
>>736418347Ok thanks
>>736418416I'd recommend skipping FF1-5 and just start with 6 and play in order from there. 1-5 are pretty shit. It's only worth playing FF1 if you plan on playing Stranger Of Paradise.
>>736417970XV is objectively an OK game, but it's got some clear rough edges (story feels like it's missing a chapter or two towards the end, when things timeskip to the climax / gameplay is a slightly strange casualized action system where you just have to hold down buttons to go into an attack or defense state and your character auto-reacts).As representative of the rest of the series?No, it's not really a good game if you're looking at it to understand Final Fantasy.XV was originally Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which would have played like Kingdom Hearts and told an incredibly edgy story, but Versus XIII was cancelled. So XV kind of plays like Kingdom Hearts, in a stripped down way, and it's story is heavily censored from what Versus XIII was going to be. As a good starting point? Sure: if you're just looking for a unique and kinda relaxed action adventure game. It's not representative of the series, but it is a good time. When the game gets going, it becomes an open world Road Trip with the Bros simulator, and at its best it does a really good job of simulating that experience of a cross-country camping trip with your buddies, and the story has some moments where its themes of brotherhood do land well. If it's worth playing, it's worth it for the unique camping trip feeling and its brotherhood themes. If those things sound interesting, it's worth playing, but it's probably better viewed as a stand-alone that's set apart from the rest of the FF series. Better starting points might be 7, 9, or 10, if you want a sense of what the series is like.
>>736399404Amazing art. Great music.I liked the story too (tough the ending of what actually happened is hard to understand, and I NEVER saw anyone actually understanding it correctly).Hovever I wasn't really a fan of the gameplay.Also I remember that to max out your characters to do all the end game secret stuff, you have to farm always one fucking road, and I calculated it takes 100 hours of doing the same thing, so I just cheated the exp in.-If you decide to do the next games too, they piss me off for a reason or another, but as always they do great art and music.
>>736418416Don't listen to >>736418521 he's extremely retarded. At most you can leave 2 and 3 but they're still better than basically everything after 10
>>736418547Thanks a lot for typing this entire thing out. I'll give it a shot
>>736418808NTA or that other anon, but are the NES and SNES games really good entry points to the series for a casual?Feel like objectively speaking 9 is kind of at the center of series, being overtly fantasy genre, 3D graphics, and gameplay similar to the rest of the series
>>736418879n-no problem
>>736399404This is one of the only two games that I fell asleep playing in the middle of the day, due to the sheer lack of brain asked to actually play it. I got close to the end but I just couldn't stay awake.The other game I slept to was Dragon Age 2, make of that what you will.
>>736418898Any modern version of FF1 is piss easy and a good starting point. All the SNES games are highly regarded too, although 5 probably isn't the best starting point.
>>736419365>Any modern version of FF1 is piss easyYea but...I guess I'm just assuming everyone's on the same page with me that playing the re-releases with all their casualized features isn't really playing the games. Who the fuck is going to play FF1 for the story over the gameplay
We seem to be continually having this thread even 16 years after release
>>736403297fix your AF
>>736419491It is the most influential Final Fantasy games of the past couple of decades after all
>>736418547This reminds me I have to still play the IX...Emulated or PC remaster?
>>736404080even if you dont do prep you can just pause time endlessly as long as you can fight battles to recharge your points
>>736419614No, that honor belongs to XV which Conan and Elijah absolutely eviscerated in the most public and humiliating way possible
>>736399404>Is Final Fantasy 13 worth playing? No. It literally started the Final Fantasy dark age that we are still in.
