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Would you consider Umineko, and VNs in general, games?
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Yasu is a girl
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>>736399734
That's a tranny with fake tits
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Y = I
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>>736399734
Why aren't they categorized as books instead? They're basically just lightnovels. They belong on /a/
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I like muvluv
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cellulite
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>>736399832
hot
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>>736399832
giwtwm
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>>>/jp/
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>>736399734
ugly slop
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>>736399784
Yeah, tell them sis.
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>>736399734
There is a part in Chapter 8 where actual gameplay happens, so yes.
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>>736400248
Why is it so uncommon in art? It's hot as fuck
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>>736399734
I look like this
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>>736399734
VNs have always been /v/ core, only newfaggot normgroids say otherwise.
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its not tranny if its magic
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>>736399734
Whenever they cry, yes
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>>736399734
Yes, because they are on computer, usually interactive and the medium strengths and weaknesses are distinct from books.
I think people get too hung up on the "games" part of video games, when the whole term was just invented kinda randomly anyway. It's prescriptive, not descriptive, which is the biggest sign it's bullshit. And it leads to dumb preconceptions like the fact that games need to be gamey to be valuable, or that a game with more interactivity are better than the ones with less interactivity. It is a strength of the medium and it's wise to use it, but it's not an end-all be-all. I kinda see it as prose in books, it's usually better when it's good, a book with bad prose IS usually kinda shit, but it's not the only thing that matters, and books with bad prose can be masterpieces. Saying it's the only thing that matters is too restrictive for the medium.
It would be better if video games were called "interactive fiction" or "computer fiction" instead, it's more soulless but at least people wouldn't get hung up on words.
As for VNs in particular, they're definitely on the border between games and books and so they're naturally weird for both mediums, but it doesn't mean they're not games. I think you could argue for them being both at the same time, but if not, I think they're more games, the way they're structured is really different from normal books. Anybody who read both a book and a VN at the same time could tell you they have a ton of differences.
Also, while we're at it, movie games aren't inherently bad either, but I kinda personally mildly dislike film as a medium so I don't play a lot of them and can't comment on whether they're shit or not and why.
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>>736399734
Yes.
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>>736400742
Let's assume for a moment magic does exist irl, yet you were born a boy (male (with a fucking penis (not a fucking vagina))) and then you turn yourself into a biological girl with magic. You are still a man, cause you can't get rid of your past. You were man, your mind is that of a man, and you once had a manly penis. So, you are not a girl, you are just a sissy gay man pretending to be a girl.
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>you have a woman's (real) body, but you're a man because of your past
Not worthy a (You). Try harder for your dopamine shots.
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>>736399734
I would not consider AI slop games, but I might consider VNs
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>>736399734
Close enough, it's all recreational computer software. Few boards are this anal about what does and doesn't belong. It'd be like banning tokusatsu from /m/ just because not every tokusatsu show has a big robot in it.
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>>736401305
its magic faggot, if someone wanted to, they could time travel to the genetic dice-roll and become born a woman instead, then accelerate time to the exact point they wanted
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>>736401365
Sorry if I offended you, sis.
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>>736401460
So they will be living a lie since they would be fully aware they were a boy once. Nah dude, you are gay af.
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>>736399734
you got a catbox for that image anon?
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>>736401553
go-go-magic: erase memories of past life
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>>736401305
>just because you perfectly transformed into something else via magic doesn't mean you're actually that thing
imagining you saying "you will never be a canine" to a eight foot tall raging werewolf rushing you down
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>>736399734
I'll fuck her tranny tits
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>>736401305
It doesn't matter if it was formerly Chuck's if it is now Sneed's. If you saw Sneed's with no hint or sign that said it was formerly Chuck's you would call it a regular feed and seed store. The employees may have formerly worked at Chuck's, but there is no sucking and fucking going on now. The grain is not any different for being placed in a building that once contained a brothel. If you examine it under a microscopic it is ordinary feed and seed.
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>>736401953
In this metaphor, the interior of Sneed's Seed & Feed still has all of the trappings of Chuck's Seed & Feed: only the exterior has changed (and dubiously so, at that).
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If you have magic to put you in a female body while not just use the magic to make your brain female too?
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>>736399734
VNs with choices? Yes.
Kinetic and pretty much kinetic with maybe one choice at the end? Technically no but it pretty much gets grandfathered in and I still call them games
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>>736401460
>they could time travel to the genetic dice-roll and become born a woman instead
Keeeek this nigga thinks Steins;gate shit is accurate
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I'd consider them visual novels or interactive fiction.
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>>736399734
VN's are only games if there are choices that lead to multiple endings

otherwise you're just listening to audiobook with cool visuals and anime whores

and i'm saying that as an absolute Bernkastel fag
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>>736399734
yeah ok but which slopper made that
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>>736402428
i found it on r34, hexyness, only a few images and a banned xitter account. didnt manage to find a version of this image with metadata because its driving me insane, i recognize the art style this slop is probably trying to copy but the name escapes me
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>>736402523
>i recognize the art style
reminds me of spacezin
hope that helps
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>>736402523
@SlopHexyness ask him, nigga
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>>736402523
The face and breasts look Asanagi-ish
The eyes look like fishine
Something about it reminds me of spacezin, maybe a hint of krekkov
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>>736402426
>VN's are only games if there are choices that lead to multiple endings
But almost every VN has multiple choices and endings?
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>>736402523
Western sloppers all use the same shit, anon. It's ALWAYS Krekkov, Kelvin Hiu, Andro Juniarto, eigaka and sometimes chamchami.
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>>736403926
Oh and zyugoya
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>>736399734
I dont care for Umineko spoilers, why does everyone say shes trans
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>>736399734
No, and no. Belongs on /jp/.
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>>736404036
Because "she" is not real, and actually looks like this.
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>>736404209
that's not beatrice though
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>>736399734
Books for the mentally ill, not games
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>>736404164
Tourists like you belong on >>>/reddit/
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>>736401686
I would say that.
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>>736401686
Don't need to imagine it, I would.
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>>736404036
Beatrice was thrown off a cliff as a baby and landed on a stalgmite. They managed save him at the cost of his dink and raised him as girl.
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>>736405330
He's literally Beatrice without the wig and fake tits.
Lion (the pic) is Beatrice from what IF universe if he doesn't fell off of a cliff as a baby and got his David Reimer-style forced trans surgery by Dr. Nanjew.
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>>736399734
Give me some fat titties to play with and I won't give a fuck if you made an actual game or not.
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>>736399734
>cancels the sequel of a VN because wars and pandemics happen irl and he's scawed of offending anyone in 2021
>proceeds to make a different VN where god mindbreaks a dead boy into admitting women are fucked in the head and that he should try again as a man in the next life instead of reincarnating as a girl
The innerworkings of 07's mind are an enigma.
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>>736406228
The canceled Ciconia because it sold poorly, there is no enigma.
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>>736399817
I keep seeing edits of this, what the fuck is the original VN? And no I don't mean Umineko.
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>>736406785
Nukitashi
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>>736399734
>They unironically named their shitty VM "WHEN THE SEAGULLS CRY"
Braaaah..
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>>736399734
I do find it pretty funny how both Beatrice/Yasu and Saber pretended to be a man in their life, yet everyone considers Saber to be a real woman (outside of handful of lunatics), but everyone even people outside of the site consider Beato to be a tranny.

I think this is on R07 for not being explicit on Yasu/Lion's gender.

>>736399784
I agree
why else would Genji hide Yasu from Kinzo if it wasn't because he didn't want to repeat the same sin he committed to his daughter?
That's also taking into account the damage that's done to Yasu's body
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>>736401686
imagining you saying "you will never be a woman" to a eight foot tall raging ma'am rushing you down
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>>736399734
>VN
>Virtual Novel
It doesn't stand for Virtual Game, now does it?
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>>736407534
Saber is 100% female except that one time Merlin gave her a magical dick and is straight.

Yasu is intentionally left vague and has some really weird shit going on.
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i mean we consider MUDs and older text based adventure games "video games" so i dont see why VNs are out of the question
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>>736400248
That image is godly and there's no similar pictures with shaded faces like that
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>>736402184
Ciconiabros...
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>>736408165
I will kill Ryukishi and write Ciconia in his blood.
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>>736401553
BUT I DID HAVE BREAKFAST!
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>>736399734
Yeah. Especially if they have combat.
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>>736399734
That artstyle is fucking gay
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>>736402523
Its Asanagi.
It could be mixed with others, but the face is certainly Asanagi
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>>736408165
I have already given up
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>>736408165
Why they always crying???
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>736400263
But what if instead he took a bunch experimental hormones as a developing teen that caused him to grow immense lactating tits along with child-birthing hips and a massive fat ass? Not to mention all the stress-eating to cope with depression, causing him to grow a huge plump belly and enough fat collected in his mangled crotch to reshape it into a soft, vulva-like cleft.
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Okay but what if you WERE incompetent?
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>>736399734
>find out Beatrice is actually a guy pretending to be a woman
>lose all interest in the series as a whole

Why the fuck would you even make that creative decision? I am beginning to think higurashi was a fluke and even then I only like the original vn
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>>736410408
>be lied to
>live a fool your entire life
Think for yourself maybe?
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>>736410527

OK I think putting transniggers in my game sucks more dick than the closeted faggots in this thread defending it. That's my own opinion
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>>736399734
Nah. They're visual novels. Basically another variant of books. Like they're usually referred to.
>b-but branching-
Then they're choose-your-own-adventure books.
If a "game" contains no gameplay component outside of reading and the function to move the story ahead(turn the page), it's a novel/book. If it does - and I assume some of them actually do - then and only then you can call it a game.
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>>736410408
>Beatrice is actually a guy pretending to be a woman
False
https://files.catbox.moe/fs67gr.pdf
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>>736402210
Shartyfags are so retarded
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>>736408165
I wish he would be upfront and just tell us it was cancelled
The war excuse was stupid from day one, if you don't wanna write it that's fine man, but don't leave people hanging
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>>736399734
>VN
depend how much control you have between texts
>Umineko
no, it's a fucking book!
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>>736410715
Do books have music and voice acting? No? Checkmate.
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>>736410813

Im sorry anon. It was explicitly told in the vn Beatrice was born a man
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>>736411131
You are a liar and will spend an eternity on this ship.
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>westoids made up a term for eroge because uhh sex is yucky (even though 80% of VNs have sex scenes)
>now they’re putting rules on a term they literally made up
this is the equivalent of women invading a male hobby and setting rules about what should be done there.
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Beatrice as we see her in all of Umineko is biologically female because magic. She/he was only a tranny in the actual Rokkenjima incident, as every time after that he ascended to a higher plane where it doesn't mean fuck since you can just recreate your entire body with magic.
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>Trannies consider man pretending to be woman in mystery a bad trope
>Its all of a sudden ok when some jap does it because of AGP
huh
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>>736399734
I'm considering mating with those tits
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>>736399734
Gosh I love boobies
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>>736406107
@grok is this real?
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>>736413053
The context is correct, the pronouns are not. The original gender of the child is never revealed. Its genitalia was destroyed in either case, but we are not at all told if it was male or female.



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