So can we finally admit that Nioh 3 flopped and Koei Tecmo are absolutely delusional for thinking they can sell $40 DLC fior it?
Its kinda surprising it got such good reviews but it flopped hard
>>736404727How much do you get paid to constantly make these threads?
>>736404813>constantlyFirst Nioh 3 thread I've seen in months (cause it flopped)
>>736404808I was thinking about getting either Nioh 3 or Crimson desert, which one is more ______fun?
i got bored pretty quick. no idea why they decided to go open world. absolutely psychotic decision.
>>736404808LMAOOOO team ninja shutdown when?
>>736404884Have you played Nioh before?
>>736404884Nioh3 if you're like sucking dickCrimson desert if you like video games
>>736404969I played Nioh 2 with a friend years ago, we had a decent amount of fun
>>736404884Dunno, I have nioh 3 and my PC can barely run that garbage so check crimson desert reqs
I honestly couldnt be bothered to finish ng+ in nioh 3, which i find crazy because i played through all the difficulties of the previous games multiple times without even thinking about it. I was addicited every time. Nioh 3 just doesnt draw me in like that. Ive been enjoying Crimson Desert since then, and while its no where near a perfect game its pretty interesting to explore and fight with all the tools you get
>>736404727Nioh 3's gameplay is more fun than 2 for me. I really think the dlc can take it to the next level
>>736404869There was one a few days ago
>>736404946Hold on, they have to deliver DoA7 first.
>>736405010Nioh 3 is definitely a more fun multiplayer experience no contest so there's that.>>736405627It's much faster to unlock the NG+ cycles in Nioh I only played 2 once the DLCs were all out and basically didn't go mission by mission again till like NG4
I was over Nioh 3 after the 2nd big map and then there was a whole ass 3rd one. At least Stellar Blade knew to end after the 2nd one and not overstay its welcome.
>>736404727im playing through crimson desert while I wait for the nioh updates
they should have listened to me...If only they took out scampuss, sloth, buffs, ninja mode, this would never have happened
>>736404727>>736404808It had like zero marketing. I’m playing through it now and it’s my personal GOTY easily so far. But most people I know don’t even know it came out. Nioh already is kind of a niche series and most normies haven’t even heard of the first one, Nioh 3 literally had no impact on release. Koei Tecmo needs to invest more in lewd doujins to promote their games
>>736407523I wouldn't say it's that. It's that the games are actually difficult.Dark Souls is not hard, and I will die on that hill.Which in turn leads to its popularity. You can grind efficiently, look up guides to cheese virtually every boss, get shown secret routes and tactics to weapons and items. If DSP can beat them, they're not hard.Nioh on the other hand, will fuck you. 3 is definitely the easiest, but after 2 difficult games, good luck selling normies on 3. They want the cultural approval of beating a "hard" game. Not actually beating a hard game.
>>736404727It sold over 1M copies, it didn't flop.
>>736408163Like the dark souls games, you can make it “easy” by just level grinding.
All I wanted was Rise of the Ronin with demons. But instead they learned absolutely nothing from Ronin and even the cosmetic gear is a massive downgrade.
>>736404808Not really, KT sanded off a lot of the hard edges from the game to appeal to a wider audience than previous entries did. A lot of people praised it and said it was, "the best in the series" but also said it was the only one they played. That would be like saying Aliens 3 is the best Alien movie, because it's the only one you've seen.
>>736408163They're in the same boat, anon. It is extremely easy to cheese all the bosses in both franchises, Nioh is a franchise where like every build is Chaos Bed Vestiges.
>>736404808Consider that Crimson Desert cost at least 4x the amount of money (and time) to develop and Nioh 3 was also sold for a 25% higher price.
>>736408163Nioh really isn't that hard either. You people exaggerated the fuck out of its difficulty because you know that not enough people play the series to call you out on your bullshit.
>>736404727It was mid, yeah. 2 is still peak, 1 is somewhat still worth a playthrough for the "story" (I enjoy William's journey)
>>736408428It was harder for Souls players who are only accustomed to spamming R1 and dodging, so having a game that has character action gameplay with some souls elements threw them off. Kind of like the Bloodborne guy who got his shit rocked by a village quest level Khezu.
>>736408163Nioh is only really difficult at the start later on it's hard if you don't want to cheese shit to death with broken abilities.The king of difficulty will always be fighting games
>>736408537That's just an enemy you guys made up inside your heads in response to obvious shitposters.
>>736408710Nope, he really exists and it will always be funny.https://youtu.be/xt5yBib9Zas?si=VJsnjRvAB-5ag7ey
>>736408234Enemies in Nioh are tough, like the ones in the map. It's not skeleman with slow 3 hit combo you can farm.>>736408292This is a lie. The cheese in Dark Souls is standing on a certain rock in the arena and using a bow and the boss can't interact with you. What are the biggest cheeses in Nioh? I wouldn't even know what to tell you. Don't get hit?>>736408428Whiny bitch, shut up with all that talking in my ear. You know I'm right.
>>736408783No, I mean the fake war you guys always whine about with the dark souls players since the Nioh 2 release.
>>736408837>What are the biggest cheeses in Nioh?Infinite living weapon? Instantly killing bosses? Feather spam? Becoming literally invincible?
>>736408941It's more that the Souls style of gameplay has overtaken any other kind of action combat in the industry so when something comes out that is trying to do something noticeably different from it, souls players will shit on it because it's too different.But that's what I want, something that isn't fucking souls combat for my action games. This used to not be a problem, but success breeds imitators, and those imitations tend to be shit.
>>736404727>>736404808There are a lot of people that will wait for the DLC like they did with 2. It's pretty common to think that Nioh is vastly improved with the extra content added by the DLCs. Nioh also isn't as big of a franchise as you seem to think it is, and Nioh 3 has double the current and peak players of Nioh 2 despite Nioh 2 arguably being the better game at the moment.
>>736404727I'm still playing and having a lot of funMy only grievance is that only the first map is really open, I enjoyed running like a retard everywhereWhen done, I probably will wait till the Complete edition to play again
>>736409021I get the reasoning. It's just based on nothing but anecdotes of retards in the threads back then. Half the people in here probably also play the From Software games, I myself have played all of them and all the Team Ninja games like Nioh too. What you're describing is just either normalfags who haven't played anything to make a different comparison, shitposters shitposting or genuinely low IQ people who can't imagine a different viewpoint.It doesn't even make sense as an argument, why would being used to rolling and attacking during openings not translate to Nioh gameplay? That's literally the baseline of the combat here too, Nioh just adds more on top to learn and build upon. Heck, Axe can easily play exactly like the Poise builds in Dark Souls and Elden Ring too.
>>736407523She deserves a 3rd battle
>>736404808It's pricey compared to crimson desert, KT only focuses on PS and nipland sales i think. They need to reduce the price a bit though since they don't have content dan details equivalent to GTA to justify the price and inb4 you're poor get better job argument, not a single sane person with large disposable income want to pay 70 dollars for every single KT games
I don't play Type A/B games
>>736408978Isn't that all late game stuff? Dark Souls lets you break the game much earlier than Nioh does, but the Nioh game can be broken way harder than Dark Souls once you get to the late game. Nioh's early game is way harder than its late game, while I find Dark Souls has a more consistent difficulty all the way through.
>>736408419ok Crimson Desert still outsold it 10 to 1 and thats fact
Not buying a Nioh game until all the DLC is out. They should have delayed the PC version like they did for the other games.
>>736409390>Isn't that all late game stuff?Feather/Ninjutsu and Tanking builds are all early game, especially in 2 and 3. Nioh 1 had things like Sloth/Lightning before it was nerfed in 2 as well. Not that any of it's a problem mind you, I'm just saying that pretending Nioh is hardcore is silly. Anybody who beats even just BB or DS3 will be perfectly fine with all of the Nioh games without using any cheese or broken builds.
>>736409623DSP beat Dark SoulsDSP could not beat NiohI rest my case. Yes, I do use the most retarded subhuman on the planet as a litmus test for general video game difficulty.
>>736409727Counterpoint. Elden Ring and the DLC are significantly harder than Nioh 1 and Dark Souls, and didn't he beat those? I feel like I heard that, but celebrities are not worth learning about so I'm not sure.
I always laugh at all the intricate systems and fluff in Nioh games like ki pulsing and fluxing and all that gay shit that pros do to make their gameplay look as close to Ninja GAYden as possible.Meanwhile I just picked up an Axe, put on the heaviest fucking equipment I could and heavy attacked everything in the game to oblivion all the way to the Abyss/Depths. Grace of Oyamatsumi ftw.
>>736409727Did he give Nioh as much time as Dark Souls? I would assume that more people would tune in to watch him play Dark Souls than Nioh due to popularity, so maybe he just didn't give Nioh enough time to brute force his way through the way he seems to do with Dark Souls. He is still a streamer, so what he plays is determined by his audience.
>>736409727>>736409875He beat the base game but gave up at the DLCs.
>>736409826>Elden Ring is hardIt is not. That's why DSP beat it. That is not a counterpoint, you've proved the point.
>>736404984nah, other way around
>>736409875nta but i think all fromsoft game can be cheesed with builds hence it's more noob friendly and many people can proclaim they're souls veteran because you can look build online and steamroll the game and get the sense of accomplishment while TN game needs more skills and in my personal experience in RotR midnight difficulty, your build don't mean shit unless you're good at parrying
>>736409948Show me the one boss in Nioh harder than fighting Consort Radahn without cheesing with the fingerprint shield so I can have a laugh.
>>736408256It's an alternate timeline. Ronin is the good canon timeline which leads to NG, Nioh 3's mission is a bad timeline
>>736404727It's not because it's bad it's just niche. Just wait for few years, it'll be cult classic.
>>736410028>Without cheesingI've just said this, man. That Souls games can all be cheesed effortlessly. And that's why it's popular with normies. Because they can go online and say they beat a hard game, without actually beating a hard game.Ippon-Datara is harder than some bosses in Elden Ring lol
>>736404808Gamers yearn for slop
>>736408256I want ronin sequel
>>736404727I was immensely disappointed by it. Nioh 2 was a masterpiece, 3 is such a disappointment I didn't even play NG+. Path of the Shogun my ass, fucking boring shit.
>>736410185Oh, so you're not being serious. Just bored and messing around.
while playing Nioh 3 all I could think about was Nioh 2after playing Nioh 3 all I could think about was Nioh 2
The most impressive thing about nioh 3 is it managed to have a story even worse than Crimson Desert
>>736409871>prosnigga it's a video game
>>736410028WotN Jin Hayabusa is fucking cancer but that's mainly down to Nioh's cheating ass human AI. I'd agree with you that Consort Radahn is more genuinely difficult than anything Nioh has, but don't underestimate the sheer amount of input reading horseshit that TN is capable of.
>>736410365I'm as serious as can be about something as subjective as gameplay difficulty! Make no mistake there.>I beat the boss in one try! So it wasn't hard at all! You died 5 times to him? You suck lmao!
>Rise of the Ronin had towns full of npcs everywhere>Nioh 3 has completely empty cities and maybe 4 npcs in an entire region if you are lucky >everything else is just the one ghost model used for all the sidequestsGod this shit was retarded when you have the fucking capital of japan as a map. They couldn't even be bothered to fill castle up with soldiers so you run through a completely empty town into a completely empty castle to meet the 3 npcs at the top.
>>736410951I noticed some games doing this recently. I'm not sure what to call it, but it's like the illusion of gameplay. Borderlands 4 for example. Yeah. It's a map, there's enemies to shoot, characters are talking...But it doesn't feel like it was intentionally designed. Stuff is there and it does the thing. But it's all so loose and fabricated.Try to come up with a word for that if you could. It's gotta be out there somewhere.
>>736410951Those places are literally under attack or destroyed. Every human inside either died, fled, turned into a yokai or is right there fighting you. The segments where there are humans on your side they do spawn them in to fight in the maps themselves or act as sidequest givers. You people will try so hard to complain about everything.>waah why isn't there humans in this brothel where all the girls turned into yokai and killed everyone!?
>>736404727I refuse to buy games at 80€ (92 USD), especially Nioh 3 which heavily reuses assets from previous games.
>>736410951it's crazy they didn't reuse all the stuff from RoR
>>736408428You did not clear depths in Nioh 2. Sybau nigger.
>>736404727I love being ahead of the curve. Faggots stay losing, True Gamers stay winning.
>>736408428nioh is hard
>>736412007combos for days, this guy knows his shit
>>736404808I wanted to get Nioh 3 on day one but never did because it runs like ass on my PC with everything on minimum even on 720p, first game I had to skip due to performance since I upgraded my pcthat same PC runs crimson desert at a mostly stable 60 on medium 1440p upscaledNioh looks like a ps4 game at that
>>736411996>NG4>SekiroHoly fucking casual. Get some actual fucking taste, pussyboy.
>>736412653>I am so low IQ that I can't comprehend this image is about relatively recent games
>>736412653>posts the easier NG 2004 instead of NGB>calls others casual / pussyboy
>>736412632Same deal here. Not sure what the actual problem is with it other than it just being poorly optimized. Nioh 2 definitely didn't have this problem.
I liked Rise of the Ronin more than Nioh 3. I have 300h in Nioh 2, but didnt even beat NG in 3.
The only reason I use ninja mode is for easy access to Enemy Sensor.Otherwise, I'm a 1kat samurai chad
>>736404808Go woke, go broke.
>NuribotokeWhat the FUCK were KT thinking?
