why did it die so fast? i've never seen a Battlefield game lose so many players in such short timei thought everyone (including myself) had a lot of fun during beta, but then after game was released it suddenly became shit. all we ever wanted was to add more big maps to the game
>>736411434>i've never seen a Battlefield game lose so many players in such short timethe cops and robbers one
>>736411478oh right, i totally forgot it even was a thing
>>736411434just another case of the "return to form" marketing strategy being a lie
>>736411434PC never had a playerbase this time because of the secureboot/TPM 2.0 aids. Beyond that, it has shit maps and is full of cheaters (worse than previous games when they used a semi functional anti-cheat), while the devs only care about pushing the battle royale and premium skins. Their priorities are all wrong for a game that lacks large maps and clearly wishes it were COD. They think content just means battle passes and grindy as fuck weekly challenges.
>>736411434It's a shallow game with little depth. Combat/maps/gunplay seem fine at first but it's really a CoD game that leans into Battlefield. The maps are pretty much all uninspired with a terrible setting/story that no one cares about. Horrible UI that beats you over the head with random gamemodes and an endlessly convoluted battlepass filled with generic slop.I get that maybe they couldn't shit out maps because they kinda rushed to push the game out when GTA announced a delay in releasing their game but there's fundamentally broken pieces of content in the game like the lack of a proper server browser.The most blatant example of how dry the content is in the game is that the weapons all take forever to level up with a bunch of useless attachments because they don't want people to see just how empty the game is.I don't know why they didn't just stick with their original model of big/small maps in a few modes like Breakthrough, Conquest and Rush. Needless "innovation" that doesn't lead to anything worthwhile.
>>736411434>rugpull audience on grounded characters>Lol no customizing from bfv, half the troops are women for some reason>cash shop cod faggot shit>forced crossplay only for pc players, the main demographic. >controllers get 25%less spread and recoil on all weapons, essentially playing a way easier game. Zen and xims running free through lobbies>a desync between pc and console that results in huge ttk disparity, dying behind walls, getting shot by players facing 180 from you>no team uniform cohesion anymore, bunch of random colored retards running around>all the guns kill in sub 200ms with no headshots, half of them are around 150ms. Bf4s average guns were about 300 to 400ms allowing you to fight back.>vehicle gameplay is so plain that its worthless. The only good one is the littlebird, as usual.>the sound is completely broken, either key sounds dont play and you get killed by sprinting retards>meme short event game modesIt goes on and on.
>>736411594The fucking root accessing anticheat made it worse? I really find that hard to believe.
>>736411823Something that really annoys me is that there is no difference between an enemy sound and a friendly sound. I don't know how many times I've scoured for a drone in the sky and start shooting only for it to be a friendly drone.
>>736411946The game already had cheaters back in the beta tests. And it has only gotten worse since launch. I still play semi-regularly and I feel like most matches in most modes have at least a couple of cheaters using Cronus Zen. It's super obvious in this game and has effectively killed it if the lack of maps already hadn't.
>>736411434Because Battlefield would benefit from a system that didn't treat players like idiots and introduced consequences into matches.
>>736411954Thats another problem, but the sound in this game is so bad it makes me wonder wtf happened between bfv, 2042 and this. Even 2042 has better positional audio. Its a joke.
I wish I could refundthis is the most nothing game I've ever played
>>736412072This is so fucking stupid, as they almost killed the game trying to fight cheaters.I remember lots of people saying they bricked their PCs trying to enable the secure boot, and for what?
>>736411434I'm done playing the same shit maps over and over and over and over again since what? October?
>>736412258>turning on a feature thats been standard since 2010 bricked muh pc!I wish idiots didnt get to enter the pc gaming market. If anything, it was a nice filter of fucking retards. Too bad consolefags flooded the game anyway
>>736412373It was funny seeing how tech illiterate some people are, and even more so because the game would do that on it's own too, just had to press "ok".
>>736412340idk why they don't just launch next season with 3 maps. It won't bring the playerbase back but they owe it to the people who stuck around
>>736411434They strayed from the large map format that defined previous games to try to chase the COD audience with small meatgrinder maps. People pointed this out repeatedly in the alpha and beta and the devs ignored all feedback. So predictably, the game hasn't fared very well abandoning the core Battlefield audience
>>736411434I never even got to play it because of TPM 2.0.Was this a positive or a negative?
>>736411434I can’t believe so many people bought this turdReal fell for it again type shit
>>736411434The bloated budget meant the game couldn't sustain itself based only on sold copies alone, and instead has to pivot towards live-service monetizationBut the same audience that was willing to pay 60 bucks for it, aren't willing to pay for skins or other shit like that. They're also mostly 30+ males who don't have the time to sink a dozen hours a week into it, instead preferring a few hours here and there.The only solution is to either significantly cut back on what Battlefield is as a franchise to rein in the budget, or to add the wacky skins like Pickle Rick and Gundams that Call of Duty has in an effort to attract a teenaged audience more willing to spend money and time.
>>736411478I don't think that counts as it never had that many players to lose in the first place.
>>736411434Had fun with my bros when we played together after launch. However I do agree with every anon here on the issues that were blatant and could have been reversed if the devs weren't so stubborn with the cod formula. The core problems were never resolved, such as the curse of delayed hits and impacts since like BF3. I'd rather play 1942 all over again with mods and all the freedom we had as pc gamers in the early 2000s.
Guns feel nice to use. Gadgets are OK. Claymores are shit and noobtube is nerfed but ladder is neat and I like the ability to smoke spam as support. Drone is good and actually useful. TUGS is based as usual. The proxy mine that shoots up and hits from above is actually cool as fuck, but the fact you only spawn with 1 is gay as fuck. Snipers feel balanced. Shotguns feel lame and gay. SMG and AR's feel amazing. DMR's are kinda good. LMGs are OK. Pistols are gay and feel nowhere near as nice as they did in BF1.Maps aren't as good as older games. Operations from BF1 is still the best game mode to exist, and every other game that doesn't use it is a huge waste of potential.7.5/10
>>736411434They promised large maps and then delivered 19 locker room sized maps and told you to enjoy it. You got baited, again. It's the same goddamn cycle every time. I swear fps enjoyers are the most retarded degenerates on the planet. Corpo promises what the blayer base wants, doesn't deliver, then player base goes "why da game no popular?" Fucking niggers
>>736412940to be fair it's really multiplayer fps enjoyers.
>played bf4 and 1 because they were great>only played bf5 for the at rifle>only played 2042 briefly for the at riflewhat does bf6 have?
>>736413010You right. The multiplayer fps enjoyers are the issue. Year after year it's the same cycle and they continue to throw their money at the slop. Preordering digital games, buying multiple dlc packs and season passes while complaining the entire time how the games aren't like they used to be. But like addicts, they just can't help themselves. Who actually thought blood money Saudi backed EA was going to put out ANYTHING besides cancerous slop? Only room temperature retards even considered the idea of the sand niggers delivering on their promises. The rest of us saw the poo on the wall and read the room. Multiplayer fps enjoyers are like pokemon enjoyers, gay and retarded.
>>736413393It feels like a 2010 dudebro online fps shooter for a while if you don't look to hard or think too much
>>736411434Last time I played an online FPS was BF3. Was way worse than BF3, felt like streamlined garbage. Hasn't gotten better since, so I didn't bother anymore.Same with CoD, it was always the same stuff after 4 but I really got bored with MW2. Favorite one was still WaW for me.And there wasn't a succesor for DoD:S so I don't have any reason whatsoever to start playing online FPS again.
>>736412130probably fired the experienced sound designers/technicians, then replaced them with jeets and DEI retardsjust standard westoid gaming industry stuff
The gameplay is dog ass, doesn't even matter how many maps there are if it's just the same terrible experience just in a different setting. Weapon progression being slow had to have had a big impact as well.
netcode seems betterbut the hit sound you get when you get killed infuriates me like nothing elseits so piercing i could literally punch my monitor for that and you cant turn it off
>>736413406Pendulum's swinging, last 2 CoDs shit the bed.
>>736411434>hitboxes the size of Jupiter>headshot multiplier too small>bloom instead of recoil>damage drop-off instead of bullet drop>SMGS are meta for the 17th time>vehicles are glass cannons>planes and helis are floaty>maps are too small>64 players is too many>objective layouts suck>objective capture areas are too small and promote corner camping>not enough destructibility
I think I got my worth of fun out of it.
>>736411434>boring no name literally whos instead of russians or chinks or at least arabs like in bf2hard pass for me>b-but that's not realistic have you seen their performance in real lifedon't care. bunch of european countries leaving nato and attacking america is even less realistic. they couldn't even make them real countries like france, had to come up with some lame uninspired pmc that somehow controls all these countries. they couldn't even make a pmc look cool, it has no character.
>>736411434them motherfuckers are barely fixing the issues there are. The game is CBT once you start trying things other than "infantry Cairo 24/7".
I refunded it after it wanted me to do some safeboot or something to do with the bios. I ain't doing IT work just to play a game about goyim shooting each other.
>>736411434you answered your own question retard, you're pretty spot on though
every battlefield game has the problem of the game being unfun unless you're a vehicletard
>>736411434People got hyped by this masquerade of a game during beta, it was blatant it was going to be shit. When it came out, it was still shit and even worse, it's your fault for thinking they'd do a good job after beta. Now you are here, wondering why did you waste money on this cashgrab
They fucked up the meat grinder map. There are so many flanking options that are so easy to get to that you walk into an area and get shot from three directions. I know on paper it sounds good that it's not the stalemate fest Metro was, but you really have to play it to understand it. It's way more annoying than you think.
>>736411434Don't know other anons but I refuse to play any game with kernel anti cheat, I don't even download invasive DRM which right now is 80% of new games
>>736411434>i've never seen a Battlefield game lose so many players in such short timeThen you have not being around for long. The last BF that didnt lose players rapidly was BF one. Its pretty normal due to market being filled to the brim with FPS games
>>736411434I think it got some things right but the maps are all mediocre to bad. I can't believe this is making me miss the absolute scam that was the Battlefield 3/4 release schedule where they shat out DLCs every other month after the game first released. At least there was something new.No clue why they insist on going pseudo-live service and then just do absolutely nothing with it
I told you not to buy it after Beta because it was obvious they did not plan to add any large map
I think I figured out why I quit. The time to kill is entirely too quick mostly due to these small maps. So what happens is, you get 3 years worth of firefights and engagements squeezed into a couple of month worth of sessions. It's like a cake made of nothing but icing. You think eliminating more "boring" parts such as long travel and spawn times is a good thing, but it's about pacing. You get burned out entirely too quickly so those moments are no longer special.Those in between moments, like being stuck out at some desolate outpost looking for a vehicle to get to the battle, only to be surprised by some squad of enemies about to take it. You're on your own left to defend it with nobody even remotely near. Or those moments when you and your squad decide to trek to some far away outpost behind enemy lines to get a foothold. Those slower paced moments help balance the game. It made the engagements memorable.
It's still better than 2042. At least I played this for a few hundred hours instead of refunding immediately. I ended up getting 2042 when it was like $5 and I still couldn't play that trash.There's still a lot of work to do. Fully updated BF5 might still be better honestly. There were more "moments" in that game instead of just feeling like here's another BF6 match where you do all the same stuff.
