It's kind of insane how it aged like a fine wine
I’ll put that to good use
bought diablo 3 on release and it was shit blizzard lucked out when they bought blizzard north
>>736414529I finished the game 4 times and had one (1) legendary drop and it not only sucked but was for a class I didn't even play. balancing drop rates around RMAH in a paid title was such a fucking scam
>>736414415It's how games could have been if casualfags didn't let microtransacttions direct AAA games.
>>736414415no reason to play it when games like grim dawn and poe exist.
>>736414580blizzard made wow to psyop young men and destroy their future my life is complete retard because of it broodwar is good though
>>736414415I only played it for its dark and gritty aesthetics. Gameplay wise, I always found the Diablo formula to be tedious, but D1 and D2 are interesting enough to keep me engaged. Thank god I didnt got into that min/maxing autism and pray to god I get turbo rare items every time I hit the diablo roulette
>>736414480>"I'll put THAT to good use">doesn't put it to good use>dieswhat did he mean by this?
Poe is better
>>736414415I don't really play it anymore, got my fill a long time ago but d2 has a simple formula and it doesn't try to be anything else which is why it holds upalso amazing sprite graphicsit's like those old point and click games that didn't go blocky 3d with blurry textures and just painted everything instead
Better than Poe
Logged back onto Diablo 4 after a while and while the gameplay is more involved than Diablo 2, it feels so fucking boring. It feels so weightless and everything feels meaningless. The sound and visual design is so shit, and the loot is garbage.
>>736414848Resurrected adding a retreat option as a quality of life feature would be nice. It's so much easier to keep him alive with teleport, as if sorc wasn't strong enough. This faggot just charges to his doom, there are so many parts where he's just guaranteed to die.
>>736414480The Barbarian saying "I've just about had my fill of the walking dead" felt so relatable after I gave up on that shitshow several seasons in.
>>736414415It didn't, it is still a sloppy mess you like because of multiplayer
>>736414415Of course it aged well. Video games used to be good
>>736414848>He's a HaseenfagWhere are my Waheedchads at?
>>736415051Funny, currently playing a skelemancer and my merc usually just stays back. The skellies and golem are in the thick of it and he is chilling somewhere or getting stuck in a wall.Except of course when he's charging into some IM'd enemies alone and instantly kills himself, that useless fuck.
>>736414848>>736415319>not restarting until you get gigachad Azrael with the aura you wantfake gamers
>>736415319
>>736415221>it's still what it wasso, it aged well
>>736415331Forgot about that, he's also very easy to keep alive as a summoner. Put an insight and a cure helm(ladder only right now) on him and he'll make your summons extra tanky with the life regen.
>>736414963I mostly enjoyed my time with D4 but I couldn't shake the feeling of being in a fenced-in sandbox. I know that technically every game is a dev-guided experience but you really, really feel it in D4.Every build is dev-approved with prebuilt interactions for your enjoyment, half the moves are the same but better/worse, etc. Feels bad man.
Reminder the Warlock can easily do players 8 endgame content NAKED with nothing but a normal weapon, and retards think this is okay and they just need to buff everyone else so the game is easy as shit and there's no point to playing anymore.
>>736415268pc uncs like the gayest shit lol
>>736415268>some of the best games ever made>year after year after yearman i miss when life didn't suck
>>736414415It aged ok but if you're capable of playing it more than a few dozen hours in a year you're probably extremely autistic
>>736415268>highlights Baldur's Gate instead of Diablo 2 for the year 2000what faggot made this shit? no one know what the fuck that was.
>>736415460Diablo 4 has the same problem a lot of action RPGs have where the action is 90% of the game’s focus and the RPG is only 10%. And since there’s only so much you can do to make isometric action RPG combat fun it ends up being a pleasant if unsatisfying experience.D2 is a much more balanced experience and thus feels more rewarding.
>>736414415too grindymelee classes are underpoweredbosses don't typically require any tacticsdesert and jungle aren't that fun to navigatebloated itemizationfun skillsgood atmospheredecent fun to casually play with friendssomehow other games still struggle to do anything as well
>>736415460I hated this about Diablo 3 and they made it just as bad in Diablo 4. Intended builds are fine but it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't just "durr use these exact uniques/set so that your main attack does 100x more damage" and you find most of the necessary items within a day. I thought Diablo 3 was actually decent pre-expansion because it didn't have all this bullshit.
>>736415571Baldur’s Gate 2 sold about 2 million copies its first year, it was hardly nicheThe highlighted game should have been Deus Ex even if it sold worse than BG2 or D2
>>736415646The dev's priorities are just really retarded. They try to make the RPG elements more streamlined, yet it's 100x more fucking convoluted because of shit like the paragon board, and the thousand different damage multipliers that you have to look up online to see how the fuck they work. It's like the worst of both worlds.
HMMMA FITTING DEATH FOR A TRAITOR
>looked up the voice actors recently>a handful of them are dead, including Baal's voiceAt least all the voice actors for the heroes are still alive.
evil beware
>>736415268>>736415487>look at 2003 and realize that even a company like Ubisoft could put out 3 bangers in one yeartake me back
LOOKING FOR BAAL?
>>736415718>bloated itemizationstopped reading there
>>736416779because you agreed and just had to respond, i get it
>>736416938I think itemization is the main thing that D2 got amazingly well.Everything else, combat, level and boss design, atmosphere, inventory management were done better somewhere else.Recently I learned 1.10 patch was authored by a single dev btw.
>>736415268rate
>>736415950So you're no longer looking for Baal?
>>736417473>combat, level and boss design, atmosphere, inventory managemenRetard
>>736414848he means you should've given him a dank fortitude instead of whatever garbage you dumped on him
>>736417587I suppose class and skill design are also great.I bet I have more time logged in D2 than your whole steam library playtime. Maybe excluding Minecraft.
>>736417645I STILL HAVE NOT FOUND A SINGLE LO RUNE YOU FUCKING FUCKTARD WHAT YOU EXPECT ME TO DO TO SUMMON ONE OUT OF THIN AIR YOU DON'T THINK I WOULD DO THAT IF I COULD HOLY SHIT I CAN'T EVEN
>>736417774I was literally in the D2 beta, so I doubt it.
>>736417825well it aint waheed's fault you suck at finding runes
If Diablo 2 is so good why are all the melee build so shit?
>>736417931But Azrael's
I am Aka-There is a pla-
>>736417473>I think itemization is the main thing that D2 got amazingly well.Runewords and charms just seemed to take a lot of time to deal with and became overpowered while not really altering the actual gameplay otherwise. Needing a separate resource to even know what runewords you can make feels like it's not designed well. It also made magic/rares somewhat less useful. I never really enjoyed crafting much with the cube either.
>>736418009You ha-
>>736414415Nah having to play the game 3 times per character is crap
>>736414415>I plkayed Starcraft, Diablo 2 and Age of Empires 2 as a kid when it came out>they're all still popular and got updated versiongood times
>>736414415after starting and dropping this game several times over the years, i finally finished this boring piece of garbage last weekdefinitely not worth the time i spent on it
>Playing Mr Llama IIno thanks, D2 is reddit now.
>>736414415it is one of the best games of all time. What is really nuts is that most of its competition is from the same company.
>>736418009>A Necromancer! I hoped I'd never have to lay my eyes on one of your kind again.
>>736414415In this analogy, imagine if you opened a 26 year old vintage bottle of wine and decided to add extra sugar to it. That's about what blizzard is doing to it.
>>736422182Change sugar for antifreeze and you have a good analogy.
>>736415268Shit died in 2005 after WoW, it just dominated everything, and PC exclusives started to become a thing of the past, look how many of them are multiplatform on release after that.Golden age I say was 1998 to 2005
>>736420846whocheck twitch for updates btw
>>736414415Do you know what's crazy about Diablo 2?The game features no enemy scaling, but it almost feels like it does. The enemy balance is fantastic.
>>736417967D2 is great because of its atmosphere. Lots of mechanics are just fucked
>>736418069Well I won't pretend that was no power level problem with runewords (Enigma being the main offender), but I don't agree runewords didn't improve the build diversity (so altering the gameplay). Many builds like Fireclaw sorc, Ghost assa, Wolf barb or Dreamer pala wouldn't exists with those rare but powerful as fuck runewords. Although having no information on runewords inside the actual game is indeed not ideal.Charms I agree had poor implementation, separate charm inventory would be a better idea.Crafts and rares could be improved but they are still the most sought after items, the potential for insane mods is there (see shit like Armageddon Slippers).Overall I think D2 did an amazing job when it comes to itemization because every class has many options for item mods that feel meaningful. You have items like Stone of Jordan being usable to a whole range of builds (even best in slot). Bottom line, all of this makes the slot machine rewarding to play.
>>736422717until a little fucker with immunity to 3 things attacks your sorceress
>>736424931>Hell Den of Evil with blizz sorcSuffering, pure, kiting, suffering
>>736414415I mean this is the current state of Diablo>Diablo 4s first expansion launches in October 2024>people pay upwards to 100$ for it>it makes the map bigger by 25% with zero new content, just copy/paste of the same shit>we get "mercs" thet you cannot equip that are just a walking shitty buff>the expansion launch did a stat squish to stop people from doing billions of damage>people still do billions of damage>blizzard didn't factor in the stat squish effecting ALL UNIQUE ITEMS IN THE WHOLE GAME bricking every single one>this happened back in October 2024>all of those unique items are still bricked to this very dayAgain people paid upwards to 100$ for this "expansion" which gave less content then your average Path of Exile season. It also made the overall game worse destroying build diversity bricking upwards to 100 unique items between all classes that are STILL BRICKED to this very day. These are all the people who work on this dumpster fire, what the fuck do they do all day? Its def not coding the game seeing as how literally HALF of every season Diablo 4 launches launches is a completely broken unplayable state and stays that way for the majority if not the whole fucking season. Meanwhile how many people made Diablo 2? Five dudes in a garage?
>>736425649I'm not really in the topic of D4 these days but how are uniques still bricked. In what way? Their affixes don't proc or something?
>>736425649Yet another example of too many cooks in the kitchen. It seems nothing beats a small team of devs with a clear vision like it was 20+ years ago.
>>736425649whoever fell for d4 when it was obvious from the get-go it's built like some p2w mobile title with paid currency and battlepass plus a looney troon in promo dev material to boot deserves what they get, sorry. should've never went into that shit
>>736425649Anyone who gave post 2005 Blizzard any money, and anyone who still gives them any money, deserves everything bad coming their way.
i ONLY play single player with respec anytime ENABLED and will also CHEAT in sunder charms for myself if i just dont feel like respeccing and im NOT sorry
>>736425756When they stat squished everything they included all uniques into this without actually doing any math so it went something like this>uniques add 5000 to everything>stat squish happens>all uniques now have to do around 1000 to be viable which 10% do>all other 90% of uniques are squished down to doing 100
