Play T*les
Nah
>>736419276I have tried a few (the one on the cube, one for the DS and the SNES) but I always get bored early on, I just don't like how the combat feels, it's like the attacks Don connect between them smooth. Maybe I'm fucking it up but it doesn't make for a fun experience for me
Abyss was ahead of its time.
>>736419276I played that one and I did not like it
>>736419276Ive tried theyre all so boring.Arise is worse every time you finish a combo your character is hard locked for like half a second meaning guaranteed damage and it just feels bad to play.
>>736419276Already do. Eternia and Abyss are my favorites. Wish the destiny 2 translation was being done by people who actually want to get it done and not amature perfectionist women
>>736421026I'd put money on Life Bottle Productions ultimately being the ones who release that translation in a few years. We're never going to get the Lumina Fails patch.
Series peaked early on and most Tales games are the worst weebshit imaginable.
>>736421131Weird way to spell Neptunia or Trails.
>>>/vg/
>>736422463Ebin
>>736419276I want to replay Vesperia from scratch but then I remember how fucking stiff the skills are in early game compared to how fun its end game is. And so the interest plummets hard.
>>736419772Same here. I like a lot of things about the series but the shitty combat makes me bounce off it. AI controlled allies are the worst shit in RPGs.
>>736419276the gameplay is just too boring. its piss easy, ai companions are genuinely unfun, and the combat is some of the most shallow shit ive ever played. its the perfect series to watch lets plays of, you wont be missing any good gameplay and at least you can fast forward past the incredibly slow cutscenes.
>>736419276I already played Phantasia, Destiny, Eternia, Symphonia, Rebirth, Abyss, Innocence, Vesperia, Graces, Xillia, Xillia 2 and Zestiria. What do?
>>736424796Hearts
>gameplayDo people really? Tales strength lies in character interactions otherwise what the fuck is there to talk about? >spam one art to win battle fist half>spam one art then activate team overlimit then spam again to win battle in the last half???
>>736424891if i didnt care about gameplay id just play a VN or read a book, plenty of those are better written than tales games. the shit gameplay actively takes away from any enjoyment id find from character interactions, like i said earlier, perfect game to watch someone else play so you can skip the mind numbingly boring 50% of the experience.
>>736424891There was more mechanical depth to Tales than there was in most others JRPGs precisely due to the active time combat, coop, party formations and engagement rules, fighting games inspiration, etc.
tales of hebephilia
>>736419276I played Symphonia back when it came outI'd like to try another one but can't decide whichIs it worth starting with the 1st one?
>>736425793Getting drained (of Gald) by Anisu.
>>736423154Vesperia is somehow one of the biggest examples of "it gets good 80 hours in bro, trust me". I don't think even vesperiafags would ever prefer to do a fresh NG run.
>>736419817Symphonia destroys Abyss
tales is funtales of arise was greatI like that it causes queers from r/gamingcirclejerk and r/jrpg to seethebecause happy heterosexual relationships ending in a happy marriage is like repellent to subhuman degenerate leftists and queersbut in general the only tales game I didn't like was Zesteria
they keep remastering the crap ones and the newer ones, why?
>>736425690it has breadth, not depth. there's a bunch of mechanics but they're all irrelevant and circumvented by just mashing one strong skill. the gameplay tries to appear deep by introducing a ton of aspects to combat that seem important but its actually quite shallow as 90% of them you can just ignore or minimally engage with.
>>736419276They stopped making new games, how am I supposed to play games that don't exist?
>>736426040easier to remaster newer ones. they dont have the talent available to work with the old ones
>>736423154
>>736425964Not in writing, or setting, or combat, or soundtrack, or pretty much anything in-between.
>>736425912It's a classic SNES/PS1 era JRPG, sure. The other two games that follow in Symphonia's footsteps are Abyss and Vesperia.
>>736419276Tried Phantasia one time since I have some kind of autism about starting from the beginning. Couldn't get my controller to recognize my inputs. By the time I finally got it fixed, which was a week later, I had lost all interest in playing it.Maybe I could give it another try, but I'm in the middle of an RPG right now (read: I'm probably never getting around to it).
>>736426087t. finishes every fight with -1 Grade and spends half the hard fights abusing Gels and Life Bottles
>>736426108You haven't played all 18/19 games that already exist.
It's funny because people play tales of games expecting souls like gameplay just because they're 3D with swords and magic then complain when they get filtered by the first boss. kek.
>>736426495>play symphonia>oops can't use gels in battle because genis will throw a fit and you can't earn one of his best titles>early game is reduced to basic attacks only because you're strapped for tp>also you have to reset if anyone dies because colette will throw a fit
>>736426731I'm not sure I've ever heard of anyone doing that
>>736426578damn bro mustumi fucking sucks
>>736426739>early game is reduced to basic attacks only because you're strapped for tpI HATE TPI HATE TPI HATE TP
>>736426495nah i finish every fight by pressing the left arrow key a couple times to skip past it because it was too boring.
>>736426578I haven't played the gacha games or whatever sure, but I'm not going to either. I wanna play a real game, and they haven't released one of those in years
>>736426739>used a guide for his first playthroug and makes it the game's problemSad, really.
It's really sad how zestiria fuck up the series
>>736426902Well, you won't see her design any new characters any time soon.
>>736423154>>736425952retards like you dont even know about skill canceling.
>>736426928>Arise removes TP>THEY REMOVED TP. WTFFFFF SHIT GAME!
The Tales of Vesperia PC port doesn't get enough praise. Motherfucking 8x MSAA in this economy?
>>736427358Zestiria fucked up by making Baba go byebye. Yes he deserves to be shit on after what he tried to pull with it, but he was also the necessary evil that helped Tales pump out its best titles.
>>736419276Vesperia was easily my favorite, but am I the only one who thinks the PC version actually made the game worse with the English VA (who were quite well received at the time) switching between Troy and his replacement and the actors like Michelle Ruff sounding CLEARLY much older in the new dialogue? Also I always hated that dumbass pirate loli.
>>736427514You are indeed the only one who hated the widely complained about feature that even Troy himself chimed in on saying he wasn't even asked to come back.
>>736426087Certainly sounds like a (You) issue.
>>736427452Too bad baba is blacklisted from the industry
>>736427309>heh, you used items and got negative grade? you must suck at the game, should have played better>heh, you didn't use items and had a bad time? you're following a guide>oops you didn't talk to this one npc at this very specific time? too bad, you just locked yourself out of a side quest
>>736427436The pc port has weird frame pacing issues so that after a while shit just starts dropping fps whenever the camera pans. not to say that the skills have 30fps animations. Funnily enough, playing the game 60fps on a switch emulator fixes everything.
>>736419276how the fuck has this series lasted as long as it has when zero of them are any good at all? it's like they are just polished enough to be above shovelware but are all soulless derivative jrpg slop of the worst order.
>>736427514Yeah, Rita and sometimes Karol sound way different. On the other hand Estelle and Flynn sound exactly the same. The added dungeons and story content of PS3 Vesperia makes it the definitive way to play the game, but damn if I don't miss the 'consistent paclage' feel of the 360 version it'll never happen but someone should replace the new lines with AI versions trained on Troy and the old voices.
>>736419276Ok
>>736427740clearly you are the retarded faggot with no taste, because the series did last this long and plenty games are good. next time kill yourself before posting.
>>736427647>got negative grade? you must suck at the game, should have played betterThis but unironically, yes. Normal difficulty is easy in 95% of cases if you've played any kind of action-based game in your lifetime. I'm sorry a kids game beat you, anon.
>>736427571It's weird considering Bamco went out of their way to invite Symphonia's voice actors back to record new lines (regardless of the quality of the actual audio and the terrible audio mixing), but I guess Troy's too expensive.
>>736427731https://wiki.special-k.info/SpecialK/Custom/TVFixthis fixes all the issuesfor the framepacing issue you solve it by capping the fps to 60 with special k's limiter. if you want more than 60fps use framegen this is one of those games where it actually looks good because theres no TAA.
>Eng dub on an anime game is bad bohoohooYou all deserve it. Hang all localizers rewriting games just to make cringy ass eng dub jokes.
>>736426578I've played every mainline including multiple versions of the ones that have remakes, both versions of NariDun, NariDun 2 and 3, all three RMs, Twin Brave, Keroro RPG, and enough of Summoner's Lineage and Reve Unitia to know they weren't for me.
>>736426928>>736427407This is why Team Destiny games, aka the COMBATCHAD games, often forewent using TP.
>>736426087We are in 2026. Record gameplay of you no damaging any boss of your choice without using any items or just stop posting. You can record from any device easily. Fucking dumb LARPer.
>>736426845>I'm not sure I've ever heard of anyone doing thatIt's literally the reason why Graces who features an i-frame dodge button and stream-lined comboing is a favorite with the more casual side of the fanbase.
>>736428237https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQZlMI-hD2A
>>736428519CC existed before Graces. Also you'll still get hit mid-dodge if you don't dodge in the right direction for attacks. You can't spam it.
Dead series
>>736428237what games have non-tp systems, and which are the best ones? i've only tried tog:f and berseria
>>736428054I actually really enjoy vesperia's dub, one of the few games where I prefer dub over sub
>>736428017It does not fix it. I tried everything. Even limiting fps to 30 and using framegen. I ended up playing it on the switch emulator and enjoyed it.
>>736428658>fierce demon fang and double demon fang>demonic chaos and demonic circle>hurricane thrust and super sonic thrust>you need to use a glitch to make the game fun
>>736428912(me)I should rather say, it did not fix it for me. I still have the game on steam, so maybe one day, when i get a g-sync display, i might try it out again.
>>736428884Destiny PS2 remake
>>736429010>you need to use a glitchDo you think it instantly turns into Bubsy 3D if you don't glitch it out?
>>736425964It doesn't, I just replayed both and I was bored out of my mind with Symphonia. I don't remember it being this juvenile, but then again I played it when I was 13.
>>736429036Destiny DC has one of the best romances in gaming. The feeling of going on adventures with your loved one; very comfy.
HeyHey guysTales of arise lolololotr
Considering only 1/3 of the players finish just ONE game, why should I bother talking about long running series like Tales that feature 17 mainline titles?
>>736429350....because 2/3 of players finish more than one game...?
>>736429106I'm just pointing out that this is impossible in normal gameplay, even more so since the tech glitch is only in the gamecube version when the copy people can get is based on the ps2 version. Also, the person used a cheat engine to change the game's properties to allow all artes to be used in midair. They also removed all the levels to the artes and turned on a property to allow arte chaining without restriction.
>>736419772Play Graces F and Xillia 2.Xillia 2 has the best combat system in the series.
>>736419276Rebirth sucked so hard i had to drop it midway. Is the Destiny remake good?
vigilantism is bad
>>736426578RIP Inomata. Her designs were hit or miss but always sovlfvl.
>>736420391Which ones have you tried aside from Arise and why do you find it boring? Just curious.
>>736429586>I'm just pointing out that this is impossible in normal gameplayIt's not impossible in normal gameplay, and that's not what you were pointing out. You directly said the game isn't fun without this glitch. I responded to that because there's a middle ground between unplayable trash and the Symphonia port. In short, it is still fun without that glitch.
How is Innocence R's battle system? Is it getting cucked by the fact it was developed for the 3ds?
>>736424796>EterniaDestiny 2 *:)
>>736428698>CC ? I was talking about the Artes tree-structure for combo-ing. Also the Arles Rise which literally just turns enemies into punching bags. I think you are getting your lingo confused.
>>736429350Because your average retard unable to finish Horizon Zero Dawn isn't posting on /v/, most likely. Besides, you do know you're supposed to play games because you enjoy them and not because you may get to talk about them after the fact in some Taiwanese basket weaving board?
Don't mind me. Just posting my boy.
>>736429957The Vita. It's most similar to Vesperia where you're supposed to follow a set route through your moves, but you can cancel moves to quickly use another. It's fun.
>>736429883>creator of the video says he used an arte editor>anon says it's not impossible in normal gameplayOkay, try using beast or demonic chaos in the air in Symphonia.
>>736430031How did he afford that armor five minutes after leaving his village to become a hero.
>>736429764Story's pretty lackluster and I don't care for Leon at all, but Kongman is the fucking best.
What's the coolest monster to turn into a party member in DotNW?
I've played Phantasia, Abyss, Vesperia and Arise. Phantasia was my first and gets a lot of bonus nostalgia points because I played it when I was first starting out with emulation in the early 2000s. Abyss was my overall favorite. Vesperia had a crap story but the characters were really good and the combat was serviceable. Arise put me to sleep somehow despite being an action game so I couldn't even finish it.
>>736430024>I was talking about the Artes tree-structure for combo-ing.Wow holding a direction during a normal attack changes which normal attack comes out. They basically stuck names on attacks from the normal combo. There's a button specifically for moves that aren't part of a combo so, for example, no direction plus that button will do the same thing ten times in a row no matter how much it's mashed.
>>736430132A gift from the gods. Mainly to protect him from the ass-beating he got after sneaking onto an airship.
>>736430257Album Atrum, if we count it. Fenia otherwise.
>>736430106What else was in that sentence?
>>736430376>no direction plus that button will do the same thing ten times in a row no matter how much it's mashedExcept Asbel for some fucking reason decides to do a second version of the arte that is much worse for comboing on most of his B artes. Dumb fuck couldn't learn how to properly spam.
>>736427740Being a 7/10 makes you special when your average RPG is below that.
What are the chances of the next game featuring Arise's that "You can't buy items and weapons anymore and instead you have to buy them, making battles feel longer than they should" bullshit?
>>736430574Wat
>>736430513>goes to a knight school for formal education>gets taught by a guy who fucking throws his sword as his regular attack>Asbel himself ignores knight swordsmanship and goes for disco dancing and samurai drawsPretty sure he has brain damage.
>>736430619I have no idea.
>>736425952that's weird I specifically liked everything about vesperia except for the final 1/4th
>>736430308Play Symphonia, you'll probably enjoy it. It walked so Abyss could run, plus it's a prequel to Phantasia set in the same world, sort of, so a bunch of elements will be familiar if you're nostalgic towards the latter.
>>736419276I really wish Tales had the combat of Ys.
>>736430741The story is better at the start but he's talking about how the combat is ass until halfway through.
>>736423154Sex with Rita then forcing her to bathe.
armpit sex
>>736419276I haven't played a single Tales game. Where should I start and which would you recommend?
>>736430574>You can't buy items and weapons anymore and instead you have to buy them
>>736430960Do you prefer combat or story more in a jrpg?
>>736419276People who think the wolf boss in the forest is hard are retards. I beat it by just blocking, jumping, and healing.
>>736430825Story felt all over the place. There were many times where nothing happens and the final act feels like it was shoehorned in to add extra game length.
>>736431005Story
Yuri and Judith should get their own game. It's an absolute pleasure to have these characters on my screen.
>>736430960My wife's game, Berseria.
>>736430981Fuck I meant "make them".Retarded as fuck.
>>736431058It's specifically harder than expected that early in the game. The arena is full of flowers that stun anyone nearby, so the player is likely to be unable to move while a giant wolf beats the shit out of them.
>>736431069Feels like the segue between arcs were really hamfisted too.
>>736430960Symphonia, Abyss and Vesperia are the golden trilogy akin to FFVII, FFVIII and FFIX. Symphonia is the most straightforward classic of the three in story and gameplay due to being the oldest, but still works as the blueprint for what a Tales game should be. Vesperia had the most budget at the time due to a deal with Microsoft and was the second to last game made before the merged dev teams and started cutting elements like an Overworld or playable airship so it's overall the game with the most content and exploration and neat artstyle (OP's pic) while faltering on the main story department. Abyss is probably the best written game in the franchise with the most well development setting, a game that stands out from Tales as an IP and into videogames as a whole (the only Tales game to appear in Famitsu's top 100 games in 2021) but as of right now it's the least available one with no ports outside of the original PS2 and a 3DS one 15 years ago.
>>736431058It is hard - on hard diff.I remember beating it by spamming one move, but I forgot its name. :(
>>736431058Anon, it is objectively harder than it was meant to. They pumped his stats for the game's demo where you had a higher level party then straight up just left his stats unchanged for the final game.https://youtu.be/4-E8rPc5z80
>>736431408idk if this is a hot take or not but I don't even care that much about games after Vesperia cutting the overworld. The overworld in Vesperia added nothing to the game, there were barely any optional interesting areas to go to and the game's progression was extremely linear so it just felt like a formality than anything else. If they were going to continue designing overworlds like that, then it's better that they cut them out.
>>736419276The last good tales game
>>736431058People that say that are always the kind of retard that play on normal
>>736431665I felt the same. Vesperia's overworld was so fucking worthless, that I'd much rather have the overworlds cut out entirely if that quality was gonna be the standard.
>>736419276I played this game for 40 hours then stopped for no reason, I've done this several times with jrpgs after 10, 20, 40 hours. How do I be normal?
>>736432063>40 hoursThat's basically the length of the game though. You were right at the end.
>>736432063You don'tI have a nigger friend who buy every single FOTM games and sometime even niche jrpg play them for 2 hours and never touch them again and he's been doing this for 10+ years.His PSN profile is full of games with 2 trophies its pretty sad honestly
>>736431094Symphonia, Abyss, and Berseria are what I'd consider more story focused games. Symphonia would probably be the best to start with because it's the oldest, as the games released they added on to the systems available and that can make going backwards feel clunky. Generally in all of them the cast and their interactions with each other will be one of the high points.
>>736432063Presumably you don't hate the game if you played it for 40 hours. Just remind yourself that you might as well get to the credits at that point.
>>736431408with symphonia being ff9, right? I wouldn't touch that thing with a 10 foot pole
>>736433198Symphonia is without question, the FF7 of Tales anon.
>>736419276>muh blastia bracelet or whateverWhy do so many Tales games feel the need to invent some arbitrary doodad to explain where the heroes power comes from? Whats wrong with just being built different?
>>736433345Symphonia gets a shitton of praise in the West because people who's first console was a Gamecube couldn't play other Tales games. It's yet another Tales game, and not the best one. The most interesting thing compared to previous Tales games is that it's 3D. It still isn't the best looking and it certainly isn't the best written or most fun.
>>736433345Not really, no.
I sincererly don’t get /v/’s intense hatred of Arise, it feels like a close group circlejerk at this point to just repeat what everyone else in the room is saying, i had no problem with it.
>>736433696Because it's fun.
>>736433696Because merging narrative with gameplay is unfathomably kino and I won't hear otherwise>each fonon has one of six elemental attributes, and a Field of Fonons is a concentration of fonons made by gathering them in one location so that the level of fonons increase and allow you to make better attacks>the reason the party doesn't hurt each other in combat is because they're attuned to each other's fonon frequencies as a unit>the reason Jade levels down is because Largo uses a fon slot seal on him to plug his body's fonon slots which he unlocks as he levels up againI fucking kneel.
>>736430556can't disagree, I guess
>>736433345Not even close, out of all the tales games maybe only vesperia comes closeThe only reason Tos is popular is because it was the only traditional jrpg on gamecube that wasn't a port or just another nintendo game, it's just fucking tendies who refuse to play anything else
>>736433871It's not tales. Imagine how DMCfags felt when DmC exists and it wasn't actually DMC but something completely different.
>>736433763>>736434193How is it not? >early 3D entry with rudimentary looking models compared to later games>the one most normalfags know and the first one a lot of people played>gets an expanded universe sequel that isn't as well liked
>>736433871Some people have bitter hatred far more extreme than what the game deserves. Still, it's expected that a Tales game will allow for things like knocking a boss in the air for a combo on him. When Arise prevents that and has an MMO "use this move to trigger the boss's next phase" mechanic, people are going to be disappointed.
>>736433871It was too western coded. No I will not elaborate.
>>736431274Yeah I don't really think anyone is a retard, actually I am cause I honest to god didn't know you could move on the Z-axis until that fight against 20 dudes who jump you in an alleyway.
>>736433871For starters it wasn't even originally going to be a Tales game. It was going to be a new IP.
>>736433871>>736434260>It's not talesWhat exactly is the identity of Tales?
has anyone played this shit?
>>736433696It's part of a tradition of fantasy adventure stories about a guy with a sword fighting in a world kept functioning by crystals. If crystals can change the weather or filter water or whatever, it's not a stretch to say the laws of physics don't work like they do in real life.
I would have taken her as a party member over that stupid annoying kid any day of the week.
>>736434729I'd rather get rid of Raven. Keep him as a fun NPC, but get the guy out of here because he's fucking junk to play as.
>>736434578Of course, it's the GOAT of 2D Tales.
>>736419276Are there people who actually liked Arise?
>>736434578It's my favorite one.
>>736434578>Leon behind him and not Ruteeyaoi ^_^
>>736419276The only good tales is symphonia, I hate how often you fags tricked me into buying the other games.
>>736435274More like you played the only shit game.
>>736434927It's a fine game. The complaints are basically that it's not like x other Tales game.
>>736427647Holy fuck the zoomer mindset. Try playing a game without a wiki or YouTube guides open for once you fucking unplayer.
>>736419772This. I also hate the DLC slop filling your inventory with cheat items and cosmetics that can actually spoil the game story.
>>736419276>>736427791>>736431408>>736431584Sex with Estelle.>>736426187>>736427590>>736431119Sex with Judith.>>736430308Sex with Natalia.
>>736435938
>>736434927Has he finished this shitty comic yet?
>>736435065Stan the MAN who canonically fucks and impregnates a party member. Can any other Tales protaganists say the same?
Funny enough vesperia was the first game to make me use guides on other tales games because I found out I missed half of the triggers for judith's spear
>>736436635Asbel
>>736436912Ah, good old Brionac.
>>736437051oh haha.. i should get around to playing graces someday then..
>>736425964....in the not being as good as Abyss department.
>>736436912I missed Duke's events. Why the goddamn fuck is he at Deidon Hold hidden away at the very top, and only for a short while?
Been itching to replay Abyss. Is the 3DS version worth playing?
>>736424796Innocence R,Hearts DS, Hearts R, Berseria
>>736427358Zestiria, alone? Surely not Phantasia GBA and iOS, Legendia, Tempest, Innocence DS, Dawn of the New World, Graces Wii, Xillia or Arise?This series had enough chances already, it's good if it really dies.
>>736428237Problem is, combat is the only good thing in Team Destiny games. The writing is laughably bad. Not Vesperia boring bad, just awful awful bad.
