Soe aged like a fine wine since Dota 2 and these are the semifinals>Liereyy vs Sebastian>Hera vs TheViper>AoE4 Finals are firstStreamshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgvfy6nwRUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI8vySTLO4https://www.twitch.tv/redbullhttps://www.twitch.tv/membtvhttps://www.twitch.tv/t90official
LET'S GOOOAfter the AoE 4 finals, that is.
Hello agresshun brosHoping for some intensity matches today too
please god let hera and lierreye lose. amen
>>736421162DISASTAAAAAAAAAAAPOPCORNGONE
Any AoE4 players here? What is the killer feature that elevates, or is supposed to eleveate it above 2 or 3?
I live for Membposting
the spectator UI for 4 is so ass in comparison to 2
Malian flag will never cease to be funny
welcome to londinium
inshallah let hera sweep the finals again
>>736421007How long do AoE2 matches take on average?
>>736422512like 25-35 real time minutes unless the game is a stalemate and devolves into trash war into wood game in which cases it can take up to 1-2 hours
this will be fast
>>736421586BADABOOOOOM DE POPKOOORN IS GOOON VAT AN INCREDIBBOOOL TUUURN OF IIVENTS!
We are close now
this ui is really terrible also liquipedia says 10 min left
Soe didn't hit the wall unlike manvoice sheever
IT HAS BEGUN LADS!Larry vs SEB
I expect maximum Membposting, ladsIt's the best part of the tournament for me
god damn this guy is old guess this is omega uncslop though
>>736426228>buzzwordfuck back to sharty
Bulgarians picked?
COOMANS!
AoE2!!!Let's gooooo!
LIERREY BEAT HERA FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 15 YEARS (I am from the future)>>736421896>when the knights...has cooome
Liereyy already won before it even started
My favorite Membism is>HE'S COMING FROM BEHIND LIKE A *BEEP*you know he wants to say faggot but will be canceled if he does. But now that I think about it, haven't heard him saying it in quite some time
Is every aoe2 event forced to have 4 attached it?
>>736426741for me it's the Titanic
>>736426782Yes because this is the big tournament of the year
>>736426714>his peers are playing roblox and fortnite>hes playing aoe2whats his problem
DE EASTER BANNIES, THEY AR CRAZZY
bune
bnuuy
>>736426860he's literally a sigma grindset gigachad omega alpha do not interact with him lest his kino rays will melt your brain
CUMANS
that was quick
Liereyy looks like a 90's movie character
>>736427387you cant beat mongols
I wasn't aware that AoE2 managed to gather such a big following.
>>736427463They're all there for the same reason
>>736427586I'd let her double my bits, if you know what I mean
>>736427657DIS ANON'S MOMMEENTOOOOM IS CRAYZY HE GETT ALL DE PUSSY, ALL DE PUSSY
>>736427586the beautiful AI artworks
These two matches will be the quickest stomps of the tourney. BADABOOM
>>736427824Anon was right, the tournament will be another hera stomp
Larry is just dominating Seb
they need to start organizing these tournaments so that liereyy and hera face before the final
>>736427975Also make sure no one's visa is fucked.And also call daut
But seriously Viper's draft will be fucked tooi said yesterday that it would be that for him and even a more favorable one for hera
>>736427975Or the competition needs to step up. Hera wasn't always this good, he got to this point by grinding. Hell, he used to go even with MBL. It's a shame the competition can't catch up.
Hera and Liereyy are basically 200 elo above the rest.
>>736428173exactlyAlso it doesn't help that if you go to steam reviews you have retards who haven touched the game reviewbombing everything out of spite, and yet they buy the damn thing.
are those banners AI?
>>736428173It is a bit odd that with these 50k$ for the winner prizes it doesn't encourage further training from the others aside from Hera.I guess it's because Wololo hasn't really established set date for each year but happens randomly, it didn't occur last year at all and had a break year.
>>736428294you tell me
>>736428294Pretty sure those banners have been around since 2023, before any AI took over
seb and liereyy are having a nose off
>>736428173i think sebastian only started doing aoe2 full time a few months ago, iirc he was still in college last yearidk about the others
>shortest series casted by MembThis is unfair I want to Membmaxx>>736428173A lot of the competition is boomers: Daut, Vipurr, Tatoh, Villese, whoever else. They're all boomers that would rather enjoy life than spend 13 hours a day grindingI genuinely think Vinch would have done great against Hera, but alas
but guisede timing...
>>736428580and if Daut was here, Hera would be scared shitless, but sadly none of them are here, and sadly the tournaments are like this because they need to share time with AoE4 too
>>736428674>if Daut was here, Hera would be scared shitlessBrother, 2019 called
another heraslop tournament
>>7364286693-0... in 50 minutes..
I am tired of Larry vs Hera
momentoombros...
>>736427883>>736428793You think Sebastien was going to be a better foil for Hera? Liereyy is looking better than Hera so far. In this form, he wouldn't lose two games to MBL's antics like Hera did.
Literally me today
>not another fucking liereyy hera final bro
>>736428928why is he wearing that
>Hopefully we reach game 7Yeah, all you have to do is quickly change it to a best of 13
any handcannoneers today? they clearly need buffs.
Lieery has khitans btw it is officially over
>>736428885>You think Sebastien was going to be a better foil for Hera? Liereyy is looking better than Hera so far.Everything can happen, last year's TTL seb was the only person in the tournament who contested hera, larry like always raped everyone and then got 0-4'd by him. He pulled a decent final this year's TTL tho so we'll see.
>>736429013I decreed it.
>>736429048anything*mb
>>736428930they really need to set hera vs larry before the finals
>>736421007I'M HERE BROS
Lierrey has the heaven's mandate right now
Lierrey bros?
>>736429669it's gonna be fine
Snek is kill
Lierrey not wearing the Vitality shirt? You're fired.
Larry sweep
Soe is still hotSnek is KillHera vs Larry again...
I wish she'd look at me like this, bros
>>736429924you forgot hera 5-0ing lierey
I like that they have the staff dressing in historically appropriate costumes for the place and time. Next tournament should be in either South America or Malaysia, so that we have Soe dressing like a blackwood archer or karambit warrior
>>736429594The young master seeks the jade beauties that Hera hides.
>I'm sure you're going to cheer for Hera, your teammate>... YesYou know he's hoping Hera loses so he can get an easier final kek
>>736430026>historically appropiatebut they are wearing 18th century uniforms for a medieval game...
The aoe3 theme is so odd given that it's the only game/era that was officially dropped
>>736430026>historically appropriate costumesThey're wearing 18th century costumes, the final is in a 19th century building, and the game covers up the the 16th century.
>>736430102I think it's only because Royal Albert Hall was built in 1870 or so, so that's why they're going with the early industrial era fashion and theme.
>>736429940
snekbros w-we have a chance? r-right?
>>736430228I believe in at least one game for him..
brutal
THEY KNOCKED OFF THE POPCORN AGAIN
>>736430296lmao
I missed all but the last 10 minutes of the first set. was it one sided rape or were there some good games?
>>736430296oofa
reminder that hera doesn't win, he just makes his opponents lose. prepare for viper to absolutely fumble as the -500 ELO debuff applies
>>736430296
MYSTERY NIGGAS
does /v/ know...?
go snek
>>736430296my faith is still on viper
>>736430358total & brutal
>>736430413They sure are.
All of my power to Viper!
>>736430228Uuuh..
hera didn't ban tupi. so maybe we get 1 game snakebros
>>736430315DA FOOD ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLESHOW CAN HE RICOVER FROM DISDIS IS A DISASTER
Maybe he takes a game, Hera that is
Owari da, the draft for the snek is bad
will we see bohemians again?
draftmogged
>>736430721kek
>>736430358it was 4 games in an hour, what do you think?
>>736430721AVRA
Alright, this better be good
>HeraIt's boring when you know who will win
>players still haven't noticed the dirt road between TCs
inb4 hera 4-0
LET'S GOOOOOOO
LET'S GOOOO VIPER
>no soundproofingSeems unprofessional not gonna lie friends.
-.-''
ok this is already over
>10/1 KDSnek...
game 2 viperbros trust the plan
the draft for the snek was inevitableanother 1h stomp
HERE'S HOW VIPER CAN STILL WIN:
viper nervous again vs herahe lost
That non stop micro of Hera is insane. Compare to Viper
>13 villagers in queueThis the high level macro I hear so much about?
Just here to bump, regards from the broodwar cartel
I can't watch this. I need an adult
>korea shit had less than 75 posts>yesterday's playoffs were comfyAoEbros? the blizztrannies gonna seethe and flood the catalog again
>>736431375i'd watch koreatime if it was artosis/tasteless again. i dont like the new guys
>>736431375Can't stop these positive vibes, even if my popcorn gets knocked off.
we slither into game 2
>14:38
kek, Viper is ass
The Snek is washed up and the draft doesnt helpAlso Hera is a nolifer 1x1 sweat
Slither hither.
>That was like watching Viper's population go down
>>736431557Kek, that was good banter, unlike the games
DISGUSTING QUICKWALL
>>736431663Riley is a guilty pleasure of mine in these Wololos.
we all knew this was easily going to be the worst day of the RBnot only because of the predictable stomps, but because viper shouldnt even fucking be here
check hera for a performance enhancing buttplug
>>736431717You're going to be ashamed of ur words & deeds when Viper beats the set 3-4.lol, lmao.
>>736431717He fluked his way to the tournament, but not to semis
We love wolves here
>>736431846Can't beat the Franks, mhm.
>lose 1 vill because pathing is dogshitGood job, Nili
>>736431936needs more jeanne
YESSS
PIKE COUNTER KNIGHT CONFIRMED
herabros? i thought knights were supposed to counter pikes...
VIPER COME ON VIPERRRR
>>736422512It varies a lot, but these settings in this tournament are designed for faster games. I've seen games end before 20 minutes, but I've also seen some go to the 90 minute time limit they imposed on games. At leas tin the early part of the tournament. I think the final might have no time limit.
Aren't chompis conversion-resistant, why hera massing monks
Hera is gonna seethe after that
BASED WOLVES
WOLVES ARE ON VIPER'S SIDE
Ornlu hates Hera confirmed
>>736432140they aren't
I hate Champis. Should've just given all these retarded civs Eagle warriors>but muh accuracyEat shit I could give a fuck if it means the civ doesn't feel good to play.
>>736432203Most people don't like hera.
This is just going to build up to another inevitable Hera score victory isn't it?
>>736432332Unfortunately it seems so now
>>736432332Viper needed to add forward siege to actually push.
Looking real tough for Vipah..
why chudpi warriors instead of bolas riders viper is getting outmaneuvered hard
Fuckkk
all Viper had to do was wall his base
Viper is rattled
>>736432415i said yesterday, Viper's draft will be shit, while hera has all the tools for him
C'mon Viper at least take one game off of Hera, we all know you don't have what it takes to win this but just take a single game.
Can viper take one game in this set? Such excitement.
>>736432435He's still somehow too cocky to full wall
It's overThe popcorn toppling was a bad omenHopefully someone knocks it off tomorrow when Hera comes in, it's the only way to stop him
>>736432435Tell me, a stronghold chad, why you wouldn't always wall your base in some way?
First game was a wash.Second game was closerThis means now it's going to be super evenAnd then Viper wins the rest!!!!
>>736432213Once you get to four sudaca civs, giving them eagles does start to look a bit weird so I can see why they did it. It was different when it was just Incas as the one off.They should've just made them reskinned eagles though, champis in their current form are retaded
>Riley shitposting at the Albert Hall in person because he knows this set isn't worth watching, unlike yesterday when he was in audience all the time watching the sets
>>736432531takes too much time and because it costs stone it competes vs castles/additional tcs unlike in stronghold where they build instantly
Good lads
>>736421007let me guess hera wins because all his conversions are instant and he uses 1million macros which should be banned from tourneysyawn
Viper needs Daut's blessing
>>736432531At the pro level, resources are so tightly managed that the wood you'd spend doing it is going to put you behind economically. Palisades and houses are typically used for walling bases in dark age and in feudal, and they don't cost a lot of wood, but the resource management at the pro level is a very delicate balance where they always have just barely enough villagers on every resource to execute whatever build they're doing. So pulling a villager to wall, and then spend wood on palisades or extra houses that aren't part of the build order, sets you back from building necessary buildings to get to castle or get military out. And stone is usually far too precious in the early part of the game to use it for walling. You need stone for town centers in Castle Age, or defensive towers in a pinch. There are some build orders where you go to stone mining early, in which case full stone walls do sometimes happen, but it's rare.
might as well play the grand final today
Well 3-0 Hera it is
It's already over
>>736432531>a villager building is a villager not gathering resources >:(>loses 20 vills because not walledWell at least it is a stepup from the lel no loom till imp they were trying to force a few years ago
WELP
Viper is so shit lol. Vinch would've been way better. Why are bong visa laws so retarded?
>>736432639Starcraft popularizing macros is one of the reasons of why RTS went to shit due to blizzard's garbage game design
Viper's brain pov:
>>736432531Pros are more confident in their unit micro. They feel that if they are raided, they can set up some quick palisade walls around their exposed villagers away from the town center, or simply pull the villagers into the TC to save them. Walling takes time and resources that slow down early game build orders. Being faster to certain timings is important at that competitive level, so anything that detracts from early game economy is viewed negatively.
>>736432493Appreciate the OG
>>736432579>>736432672>>736432704>>736432803Mhm, I see the conundrum. Thanks, anons.
>>736432774>Starcraft popularizing macros?
>>736432531In general? Lets you focus on getting up to the next age and unlocking better techs and units faster.Against Hera? Overconfidence. You have to be overconfident to think you can get away with not walling against Hera.
>>736432914a younger, faster Viper could have done itbut he's not that guy anymore
>>736432803That makes sense for military units, like Larry not getting armor upgrades until very late because he doesn't get hit anyway.For the economy it's stupid and dillutes your micro too much for 2 wood/palisade. Losing one villager is enough to offset the benefits and those retards lose several.
>>736432887Many SC tournaments and inhouses of the old, mainly the ones involving hitting others with plastic or steel chairs at tournaments, had macros legalized as a way to make shit go faster.Korea went nuts with this shit because "its easier".>>736432992And he is semi retired now, while hera nolifes this game
nice galley pathfinding
Aaand it's already over
is viper washed?
>>736433116Yes, he's old. Wrist injured, father of newborn and married man.
where is lue bei
>>736433025Empire Wars is slightly different from normal random map settings, but in this set up in particular you start with a ton of vills and can get up to castle age in like 7 minutes if you micro manage your economy. Castle Age is a big power spike for a lot of civs, so getting to it faster, even 1 minute faster, gives you a significant advantage that can allow you to control territory or do a very damaging raid against the enemy eco before they get up to castle and can fight you off. Essentially, they are not really thinking about "what if my strategy doesn't work" because that kind of thinking doesn't give you the confidence to go for it.