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Soe aged like a fine wine since Dota 2 and these are the semifinals

>Liereyy vs Sebastian
>Hera vs TheViper
>AoE4 Finals are first

Streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKgvfy6nwRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtI8vySTLO4
https://www.twitch.tv/redbull
https://www.twitch.tv/membtv
https://www.twitch.tv/t90official
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LET'S GOOO
After the AoE 4 finals, that is.
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Hello agresshun bros
Hoping for some intensity matches today too
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please god let hera and lierreye lose. amen
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>>736421162
DISASTAAAAAAAAAAA
POPCORN
GONE
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Any AoE4 players here? What is the killer feature that elevates, or is supposed to eleveate it above 2 or 3?
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I live for Membposting
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the spectator UI for 4 is so ass in comparison to 2
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Malian flag will never cease to be funny
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welcome to londinium
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inshallah let hera sweep the finals again
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>>736421007
How long do AoE2 matches take on average?
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>>736422512
like 25-35 real time minutes unless the game is a stalemate and devolves into trash war into wood game in which cases it can take up to 1-2 hours
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this will be fast
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>>736421586
BADABOOOOOM DE POPKOOORN IS GOOON VAT AN INCREDIBBOOOL TUUURN OF IIVENTS!
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We are close now
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this ui is really terrible also liquipedia says 10 min left
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Soe didn't hit the wall unlike manvoice sheever
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IT HAS BEGUN LADS!

Larry vs SEB
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I expect maximum Membposting, lads
It's the best part of the tournament for me
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god damn this guy is old
guess this is omega uncslop though
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>>736426228
>buzzword
fuck back to sharty
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Bulgarians picked?
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COOMANS!
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AoE2!!!
Let's gooooo!
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LIERREY BEAT HERA FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 15 YEARS (I am from the future)

>>736421896
>when the knights...has cooome
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Liereyy already won before it even started
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My favorite Membism is
>HE'S COMING FROM BEHIND LIKE A *BEEP*
you know he wants to say faggot but will be canceled if he does. But now that I think about it, haven't heard him saying it in quite some time
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Is every aoe2 event forced to have 4 attached it?
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>>736426741
for me it's the Titanic
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>>736426782
Yes because this is the big tournament of the year
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>>736426714
>his peers are playing roblox and fortnite
>hes playing aoe2
whats his problem
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DE EASTER BANNIES, THEY AR CRAZZY
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bune
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bnuuy
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>>736426860
he's literally a sigma grindset gigachad omega alpha do not interact with him lest his kino rays will melt your brain
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CUMANS
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that was quick
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Liereyy looks like a 90's movie character
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>>736427387
you cant beat mongols
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I wasn't aware that AoE2 managed to gather such a big following.
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>>736427463
They're all there for the same reason
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>>736427586
I'd let her double my bits, if you know what I mean
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>>736427657
DIS ANON'S MOMMEENTOOOOM IS CRAYZY HE GETT ALL DE PUSSY, ALL DE PUSSY
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>>736427586
the beautiful AI artworks
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These two matches will be the quickest stomps of the tourney. BADABOOM
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>>736427824
Anon was right, the tournament will be another hera stomp
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Larry is just dominating Seb
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they need to start organizing these tournaments so that liereyy and hera face before the final
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>>736427975
Also make sure no one's visa is fucked.
And also call daut
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But seriously Viper's draft will be fucked too
i said yesterday that it would be that for him and even a more favorable one for hera
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>>736427975
Or the competition needs to step up. Hera wasn't always this good, he got to this point by grinding. Hell, he used to go even with MBL. It's a shame the competition can't catch up.
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Hera and Liereyy are basically 200 elo above the rest.
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>>736428173
exactly
Also it doesn't help that if you go to steam reviews you have retards who haven touched the game reviewbombing everything out of spite, and yet they buy the damn thing.
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are those banners AI?
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>>736428173
It is a bit odd that with these 50k$ for the winner prizes it doesn't encourage further training from the others aside from Hera.
I guess it's because Wololo hasn't really established set date for each year but happens randomly, it didn't occur last year at all and had a break year.
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>>736428294
you tell me
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>>736428294
Pretty sure those banners have been around since 2023, before any AI took over
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seb and liereyy are having a nose off
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>>736428173
i think sebastian only started doing aoe2 full time a few months ago, iirc he was still in college last year
idk about the others
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>shortest series casted by Memb
This is unfair I want to Membmaxx

>>736428173
A lot of the competition is boomers: Daut, Vipurr, Tatoh, Villese, whoever else. They're all boomers that would rather enjoy life than spend 13 hours a day grinding
I genuinely think Vinch would have done great against Hera, but alas
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but guise
de timing...
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>>736428580
and if Daut was here, Hera would be scared shitless, but sadly none of them are here, and sadly the tournaments are like this because they need to share time with AoE4 too
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>>736428674
>if Daut was here, Hera would be scared shitless
Brother, 2019 called
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another heraslop tournament
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>>736428669
3-0... in 50 minutes..
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I am tired of Larry vs Hera
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momentoombros...
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>>736427883
>>736428793
You think Sebastien was going to be a better foil for Hera? Liereyy is looking better than Hera so far. In this form, he wouldn't lose two games to MBL's antics like Hera did.
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Literally me today
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>not another fucking liereyy hera final bro
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>>736428928
why is he wearing that
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>Hopefully we reach game 7
Yeah, all you have to do is quickly change it to a best of 13
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any handcannoneers today? they clearly need buffs.
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Lieery has khitans btw it is officially over
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>>736428885
>You think Sebastien was going to be a better foil for Hera? Liereyy is looking better than Hera so far.
Everything can happen, last year's TTL seb was the only person in the tournament who contested hera, larry like always raped everyone and then got 0-4'd by him. He pulled a decent final this year's TTL tho so we'll see.
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>>736429013
I decreed it.
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>>736429048
anything*
mb
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>>736428930
they really need to set hera vs larry before the finals
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>>736421007
I'M HERE BROS
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Lierrey has the heaven's mandate right now
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Lierrey bros?
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>>736429669
it's gonna be fine
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Snek is kill
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Lierrey not wearing the Vitality shirt? You're fired.
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Larry sweep
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Soe is still hot
Snek is Kill
Hera vs Larry again...
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I wish she'd look at me like this, bros
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>>736429924
you forgot hera 5-0ing lierey
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I like that they have the staff dressing in historically appropriate costumes for the place and time. Next tournament should be in either South America or Malaysia, so that we have Soe dressing like a blackwood archer or karambit warrior
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>>736429594
The young master seeks the jade beauties that Hera hides.
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>I'm sure you're going to cheer for Hera, your teammate
>... Yes
You know he's hoping Hera loses so he can get an easier final kek
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>>736430026
>historically appropiate
but they are wearing 18th century uniforms for a medieval game...
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The aoe3 theme is so odd given that it's the only game/era that was officially dropped
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>>736430026
>historically appropriate costumes
They're wearing 18th century costumes, the final is in a 19th century building, and the game covers up the the 16th century.
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>>736430102
I think it's only because Royal Albert Hall was built in 1870 or so, so that's why they're going with the early industrial era fashion and theme.
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>>736429940
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snekbros w-we have a chance? r-right?
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>>736430228
I believe in at least one game for him..
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brutal
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THEY KNOCKED OFF THE POPCORN AGAIN
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>>736430296
lmao
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I missed all but the last 10 minutes of the first set. was it one sided rape or were there some good games?
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>>736430296
oofa
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reminder that hera doesn't win, he just makes his opponents lose. prepare for viper to absolutely fumble as the -500 ELO debuff applies
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>>736430296
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MYSTERY NIGGAS
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does /v/ know...?
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go snek
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>>736430296
my faith is still on viper
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>>736430358
total & brutal
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>>736430413
They sure are.
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All of my power to Viper!
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>>736430228
Uuuh..
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hera didn't ban tupi. so maybe we get 1 game snakebros
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>>736430315
DA FOOD ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLES
HOW CAN HE RICOVER FROM DIS
DIS IS A DISASTER
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Maybe he takes a game, Hera that is
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Owari da, the draft for the snek is bad
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will we see bohemians again?
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draftmogged
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>>736430721
kek
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>>736430358
it was 4 games in an hour, what do you think?
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>>736430721
AVRA
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Alright, this better be good
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>Hera
It's boring when you know who will win
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>players still haven't noticed the dirt road between TCs
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inb4 hera 4-0
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LET'S GOOOOOOO
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LET'S GOOOO VIPER
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>no soundproofing
Seems unprofessional not gonna lie friends.
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-.-''
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ok this is already over
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>10/1 KD
Snek...
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game 2 viperbros trust the plan
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the draft for the snek was inevitable
another 1h stomp
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HERE'S HOW VIPER CAN STILL WIN:
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viper nervous again vs hera
he lost
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That non stop micro of Hera is insane. Compare to Viper
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>13 villagers in queue
This the high level macro I hear so much about?
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Just here to bump, regards from the broodwar cartel
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I can't watch this. I need an adult
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>korea shit had less than 75 posts
>yesterday's playoffs were comfy
AoEbros? the blizztrannies gonna seethe and flood the catalog again
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>>736431375
i'd watch koreatime if it was artosis/tasteless again. i dont like the new guys
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>>736431375
Can't stop these positive vibes, even if my popcorn gets knocked off.
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we slither into game 2
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>14:38
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kek, Viper is ass
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The Snek is washed up and the draft doesnt help
Also Hera is a nolifer 1x1 sweat
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Slither hither.
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>That was like watching Viper's population go down
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>>736431557
Kek, that was good banter, unlike the games
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DISGUSTING QUICKWALL
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>>736431663
Riley is a guilty pleasure of mine in these Wololos.
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we all knew this was easily going to be the worst day of the RB
not only because of the predictable stomps, but because viper shouldnt even fucking be here
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check hera for a performance enhancing buttplug
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>>736431717
You're going to be ashamed of ur words & deeds when Viper beats the set 3-4.
lol, lmao.
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>>736431717
He fluked his way to the tournament, but not to semis
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We love wolves here
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>>736431846
Can't beat the Franks, mhm.
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>lose 1 vill because pathing is dogshit
Good job, Nili
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>>736431936
needs more jeanne
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YESSS
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PIKE COUNTER KNIGHT CONFIRMED
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herabros? i thought knights were supposed to counter pikes...
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VIPER COME ON VIPERRRR
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>>736422512
It varies a lot, but these settings in this tournament are designed for faster games. I've seen games end before 20 minutes, but I've also seen some go to the 90 minute time limit they imposed on games. At leas tin the early part of the tournament. I think the final might have no time limit.
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Aren't chompis conversion-resistant, why hera massing monks
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Hera is gonna seethe after that
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BASED WOLVES
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WOLVES ARE ON VIPER'S SIDE
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Ornlu hates Hera confirmed
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>>736432140
they aren't
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I hate Champis. Should've just given all these retarded civs Eagle warriors
>but muh accuracy
Eat shit I could give a fuck if it means the civ doesn't feel good to play.
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>>736432203
Most people don't like hera.
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This is just going to build up to another inevitable Hera score victory isn't it?
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>>736432332
Unfortunately it seems so now
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>>736432332
Viper needed to add forward siege to actually push.
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Looking real tough for Vipah..
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why chudpi warriors instead of bolas riders viper is getting outmaneuvered hard
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Fuckkk
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all Viper had to do was wall his base
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Viper is rattled
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>>736432415
i said yesterday, Viper's draft will be shit, while hera has all the tools for him
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C'mon Viper at least take one game off of Hera, we all know you don't have what it takes to win this but just take a single game.
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Can viper take one game in this set? Such excitement.
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>>736432435
He's still somehow too cocky to full wall
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It's over
The popcorn toppling was a bad omen
Hopefully someone knocks it off tomorrow when Hera comes in, it's the only way to stop him
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>>736432435
Tell me, a stronghold chad, why you wouldn't always wall your base in some way?
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First game was a wash.
Second game was closer
This means now it's going to be super even
And then Viper wins the rest!!!!
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>>736432213
Once you get to four sudaca civs, giving them eagles does start to look a bit weird so I can see why they did it. It was different when it was just Incas as the one off.

They should've just made them reskinned eagles though, champis in their current form are retaded
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>Riley shitposting at the Albert Hall in person because he knows this set isn't worth watching, unlike yesterday when he was in audience all the time watching the sets
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>>736432531
takes too much time and because it costs stone it competes vs castles/additional tcs unlike in stronghold where they build instantly
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Good lads
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>>736421007
let me guess hera wins because all his conversions are instant and he uses 1million macros which should be banned from tourneys

yawn
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Viper needs Daut's blessing
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>>736432531
At the pro level, resources are so tightly managed that the wood you'd spend doing it is going to put you behind economically. Palisades and houses are typically used for walling bases in dark age and in feudal, and they don't cost a lot of wood, but the resource management at the pro level is a very delicate balance where they always have just barely enough villagers on every resource to execute whatever build they're doing. So pulling a villager to wall, and then spend wood on palisades or extra houses that aren't part of the build order, sets you back from building necessary buildings to get to castle or get military out.

And stone is usually far too precious in the early part of the game to use it for walling. You need stone for town centers in Castle Age, or defensive towers in a pinch. There are some build orders where you go to stone mining early, in which case full stone walls do sometimes happen, but it's rare.
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might as well play the grand final today
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Well 3-0 Hera it is
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It's already over
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>>736432531
>a villager building is a villager not gathering resources >:(
>loses 20 vills because not walled
Well at least it is a stepup from the lel no loom till imp they were trying to force a few years ago
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WELP
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Viper is so shit lol. Vinch would've been way better. Why are bong visa laws so retarded?
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>>736432639
Starcraft popularizing macros is one of the reasons of why RTS went to shit due to blizzard's garbage game design
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>>736432531
Pros are more confident in their unit micro. They feel that if they are raided, they can set up some quick palisade walls around their exposed villagers away from the town center, or simply pull the villagers into the TC to save them. Walling takes time and resources that slow down early game build orders. Being faster to certain timings is important at that competitive level, so anything that detracts from early game economy is viewed negatively.
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>>736432493
Appreciate the OG
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>>736432579
>>736432672
>>736432704
>>736432803
Mhm, I see the conundrum. Thanks, anons.
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>>736432774
>Starcraft popularizing macros
?
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>>736432531
In general? Lets you focus on getting up to the next age and unlocking better techs and units faster.

Against Hera? Overconfidence. You have to be overconfident to think you can get away with not walling against Hera.
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>>736432914
a younger, faster Viper could have done it
but he's not that guy anymore
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>>736432803
That makes sense for military units, like Larry not getting armor upgrades until very late because he doesn't get hit anyway.
For the economy it's stupid and dillutes your micro too much for 2 wood/palisade. Losing one villager is enough to offset the benefits and those retards lose several.
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>>736432887
Many SC tournaments and inhouses of the old, mainly the ones involving hitting others with plastic or steel chairs at tournaments, had macros legalized as a way to make shit go faster.
Korea went nuts with this shit because "its easier".

>>736432992
And he is semi retired now, while hera nolifes this game
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nice galley pathfinding
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Aaand it's already over
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is viper washed?
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>>736433116
Yes, he's old. Wrist injured, father of newborn and married man.
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where is lue bei
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>>736433025
Empire Wars is slightly different from normal random map settings, but in this set up in particular you start with a ton of vills and can get up to castle age in like 7 minutes if you micro manage your economy. Castle Age is a big power spike for a lot of civs, so getting to it faster, even 1 minute faster, gives you a significant advantage that can allow you to control territory or do a very damaging raid against the enemy eco before they get up to castle and can fight you off.

Essentially, they are not really thinking about "what if my strategy doesn't work" because that kind of thinking doesn't give you the confidence to go for it.
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CASTLE IN THE MIDDLE
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>>736433073
I don't believe that.
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LETS FUCKING GO VIPER LETS GET AT LEAST ONE GAME
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fuck nevermind, what a cheeky castle.
viper you madman
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I swear to god if all this castle accomplishes is getting treb'd down by Hera before Viper even gets to imp I'm going to be mad
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>>736433249
Koreans were the biggest macrofags of the old
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>>736421007
These are still happening?
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wha hapun
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>>736433365
Yes?
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>>736433116
Seems that way. He doesn't have the same godlike reflexes and APM he used to have. He's also far less likely to be tenacious and claw back a losing game, he'll throw in the towel after losing a bad fight in castle now, even if his position is recoverable. He just doesn't have the fighting spirit he did.

I've noticed him relying a lot more on cheesy fad strats in Titan's League and other tourneys. He's not nearly as confident in playing the meta against the likes of Liereyy or Hera or Yo as he used to be. I think he needs to accept his Old Man status and become a disciple of Daut, learn the way of BIG STRATS and stop trying to duke it out with kids that have inhuman APM, become a lower stakes tourney figure renowned for his cleverness. Yeah, Daut isn't perfect, he doesn't have the micro, he makes bad judgement calls all the time, but he can still compete with the best in the game despite being an old man (an actual old man, not "old" lke Viper).
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insane that you can have lag during an in person tournament where the pcs are literally less than 3 feet away from each other
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Thanks bear
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>>736433423
Don't you love always online bullshit?
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>>736433423
LAN is a lost technology, we literally cannot replicate it
>>736433365
we're getting closer to this shit being 30 years old. we'll be playing aoe2 super HD definitive 3.0 in year 2100
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GG go next 3-0
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>>736433291
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Hera's just too good. He's like a machine that turns caffeine into AoE2 micro
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It's over, again..
0-3..
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>>736427586
Unfathomably based.
Thank you anon.
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>>736433568
I absolutely hate I called it for fucks sake
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HERA
>HERA
HERA
>HERA
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>HERA
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>Just make light cav and win lol
All Hera games summed up
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>>736433327
Feel free to give 3 examples.
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>>736433684
Hera
>Hussar is the strongest unit in the game
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>>736433684
He's been doing it for years and years. Back when I first started following AoE2 high level scene, Hera was known for hussar spam. Here we are, like a decade later, and even with civs that don't get hussar he's doing light cav raids. Because people STILL don't full wall against him.
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>>736433723
Hera one click instant conversion
is he the son of the guy who runs these tourneys?
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>>736433413
>become a lower stakes tourney figure

I think he's already approaching the game like this and just plays for fun basically. That he's still top 4 in an S tier tournament should be embarrassing for the other pro players.
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I can't wait for the scout-line nerf. It's honestly too good.
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>>736433773
When you put it like that, yeah. I just kinda want him to do more crazy strats like Daut does. If you accept you're probably not gonna win in the S-tier, make it fun.
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man these light cav raids are crazy, if only there were some sort of barrier of obstacle to block their path
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>Gets in despite not qualifying
>makes it to semis somehow
>loses 0-4 against Hera
>leaves

How does Viper keep doing it
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im literally crying for viper
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>>736433832
If only he had two impassible barriers not very far apart to wall between, like, say, water and the edge of the map...
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>>736433771
Hera uses macros
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>>736433832
Impossible, you can't do that. You can only quickwall and hope for the best.
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That's it nigger, I'm gonna burn my life-size the viper body pillow. What a fucking loser.
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>>736433723
That would be the crossbow
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>>736433894
what are macros?
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>>736433743
>>736433832
I don't get it, in the last Wololo cup Viper pulled off this wall strat, did he forgot they exist?
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>>736433908
Nah. Crossbow is overpowered, and has a high skill ceiling that allows micro nerds to abuse it far more than everybody else to eke out wins in Castle Age, but Hussar can win you the game by setting a few stable rally points into the enemy base and having 80 farmers then clicking "create Hussar" nonstop.
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>>736433970
that was before the latest changes
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>Daut fan is the qtest person in the arena
BROS
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DautCHADS
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Damn Daut gets bitches
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>>736433684
His strat is hard countered by stone walls, which the S-tier don't know how to make.
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HOLY FUCK SHE LITERALLY RIPPED HER FIGNER OFF FOR DAUT WHAT THE FUCK
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gg
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>That schnozz
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go next
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and Viper fucks up a quickwall against a Hera raid

What
A
Fucking
Surprise
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>>736434120
>>736434147
People love a clown. And Daut is genuinely inspirational. He has some of the lowest APM in the S-tier but still is competitive purely off his strats.
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My mom said the viper is irrelevant.
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>>736434071
>Fat ugly bastard get the prettiest girl
just like my japanese porn game
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>>736433832
you don't understand, if I send a vill to wall, that's one less vill gathering resources!
>proceeds to lose 10 vills to a lightcav raid
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>>736434216
>but still is competitive
I don't think that's still true
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>>736434231
DauT slander will not be tolerated
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>>736434248
It's also annoying that they ignore the focus advantage of not having to pay attention to your base
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>Dominate the scene so hard you kill it entirely and you lose your source of income
what is hera's endgame here?
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>2 minutes behind on castle
this is so over
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What a fucking whiplash from yesterday.
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It's so fucking over.
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>>736434379
Proving that being a Uncharismatic Sweat ruins everything, as his videos.
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>the best aoe2 player is a leaf
>a fucking leaf
Grim. I hope Liereyy takes it home.
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>>736434379
To his credit, he did complain about the scene being too low level in the past, I think. At least that's how I remember him justifying moving to LoL and/or AoE4. When that didn't work he was forced to come back but I don't think he's happy with this situation
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end it already
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>>736434481
Born in Canada to Palestinian refugees then later moved to Argentina.
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>>736434379
Sebastian crossing the pond and trying to kill him in a Buenos Aires back alley to shake the scene.
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>>736434513
This somehow makes it worse
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>>736434483
And assfaggots filtered his sweat hard.
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if vipurr loses w tiger cav it's over
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>>736434379
Viper dominated for a decade and the scene didn't die
The difference is that Viper knew to put on a show, Hera is a soulless top 1
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>hera sandbagging now
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Already countered with camels..
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>omg viper has vill lead!
>hera has wheel barrow and horse collar
lol
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I blame Putin for this, vinch would have taken 1 game at least
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>>736434564
Hera is to AoE2 what Palou is to Indycar
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Time for viper to desperately try to get an eco going and then not build enough military and get ran over.
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>>736434618
and now Hera is 10 vils ahead as well as ahead in eco techs and ahead in army
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>>736434618
Macros...
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>>736434564
Hera's current level is way higher than Viper's was during his peak. The reality is that Viper was always mid and stat-padded in a piss easy era.

He sold out to Facebook when he had the chance so at least he has something to show for it. Hera turning down $1.6 million to stay on Twitch was quite honourable of him so good to see him getting these winnings now.

For the record, I also think Viper's personality is bland and soulless. Not sure why he is so popular. I think it's just nostalgia.
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Hera is hacking
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It's not Hera's fault the old guard are washed, and the newfags can't macro. We just gotta wait for Sebastian and Lewis to learn how to macro, and damage control, and then the scene can be competitive again. Til then it's just Larry and Hera being the only real players. I mean look at Tatoh, Daut, and Viper, the levels of washed is just insane. Tatoh in particular isn't even top 10 worthy anymore.
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>>736434762
>Not sure why he is so popular
Losing on purpose here and there makes you likeable, and yet hidden cup was created because it was not a gap so big you couldn't hide it.
Meanwhile Hera is 1k tourney elo ahead of the next and not even Hidden Cup would hide that. Everyone knew from game 1 who Vasco da Gama was.
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>>736434909
Macros ruined RTS
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>>736434909
Daut isn't even trying to be top tier anymore, he's just having fun at a high level
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>>736434982
He's the only one with an actual excuse, since he's an actual old man, and not just a 30 year old. Yo is on the older side too, but he's still hanging in there.
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>>736434946
Give 3 examples of macros.
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What a fucking embarrassment of a performance, Viper.
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Guys I just woke up, what sets are coming up?
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>>736434909
Hopefully the upcoming TG revival will be more competitive than this since TGs are easier on the uncs

>>736434939
>Hidden Cup
Dominant Viper always did a little trolling during HC to throw off viewers, it's what helped make the tournament so fun
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>>736435153
Viper is a money grubbing kike, he doesn't give a shit because he got $20k.
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>>736435182
Hera vs Liereyy tomorrow
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They could do the finals right fucking now
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>>736434909
>>736434946
>macros
Do you have any proof of this or are you just spewing shit about macros because you think if it happened in Starcraft it must be happening in AoE?
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>What a series we've seen
But Riley.. you didn't see any of it with your shitposting at the venue?
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>browns mad at hera for winning
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>>736435231
Macros happened in starcraft?
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>Wololo is just a welfare check for Hera.
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>>736434762
Apart from Viper not being a charisma black hole, during Viper era you had also a very interesting "who is second best" contest going on. Now you don't even have that. There is a shounen manga like power tier of sorts that only grows wider.
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Why hosts are wearing cosumes, that better fit AOE3?
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>>736435297
Per two posts in this thread, they were a thing, yes.
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Speaking of Koreans, why did none of them try to swap to AoE2 to farm the "weaker" scene?
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So, Larry or Hera, who are you rooting for?
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>>736435213
Who could have seen this coming :o
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>>736435405
Video games are forbidden now in Korea, it's too late.
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>>736435350
and unfortunately the protagonist is a generic isekai protag
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>>736435397
>some fag keeps clamoring about macros
>can't give a single example
I don't know. Sounds like some faggot that doesn't know what he's talking about.
If you want you can correct the record I suppose.
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>>736435426
Lierrey. I hate Hera. I have never liked his content, his mannerisms, how he talks, or how he plays.
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So how are the new expansion campaigns?
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>>736435375
read the thread
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>>736435426
no one, both lack the charisma for me to care about it
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>>736435426
Larry, but we know what's gonna happen.
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>>736435483
You can see the arab/middle eastern in him
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>>736435426
I want Larry to man up and defeat Hera

>>736435504
See SpiritOfTheLaw's video about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAbCxt-nsOM
Alexander the great is stupidly good
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Jesus fucking Christ
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What's with Vipey man
Gets raided 4 games in a row by cavs/light cavs, and spears/pikes just doesnt work on Hera. Still won't fucking wall
Meanwhile he tries to do the same to Hera and fails because surprise, he's walled
Even partial walls to funnel shit is better than no walls. Goddamn man its so frustrating to watch
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>>736435640
mogged every time jesus
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See you all tomorrow gentlemen...
Hope that Larry wins

>>736435716
the draft fucked him hard
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>>736435640
Hey at least the SAX Nations Cup was won by China, followed by France. Hera was only 3rd.
PROMOTE TEAM TOURNAMENTS RED BULL!!
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There's that Final Fantasy 9 flute outro again
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>>736435716
>I'm sure to win because my micro is superior
>*2slow on the quickwall*
>surprised pikachu face
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>>736435640
Viper fans hate to hear it, but he's not goat material. He just stat padded on bums during the small scene era. Current Larry, Sebastian, or Hearttt would have killed the scene back then, let alone Hera. That's like saying the best boxer was some guy from the 1910s, because he beat 80 bums.
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>>736433825
I mean we saw him win with elephant archers and a feudal age cuman tc this tournament, he's getting there.
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>>736435895
But those are recent tournaments.. Larry is still sleeping due not training properly. Sebastian and Hearttt are improving but still bad.
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>>736434194
Serbian eagles fly early as they say
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I don't like team tournaments. First because I don't like the idea of having infinite gold due to trade carts. Second because one of the biggest appeals of RTSs is that they're one of the few competitive 1v1 genres. If you want teams you can get it from almost every other genre nowadays
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total disaaaster of a day aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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A lot of the mid, and washed pros spend a lot of their time playing black forest team games for some reason. Hera wouldn't do well in those, he barely ever plays team games.
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>>736436065
Same, but mostly because casting them is a total mess and you are guaranteed to miss on 80% of the action.
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>>736435212
Wh he's got a baby daughter to feed, i completely forgive him
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>>736435872
>>736435748
Like holy fuck, at least Sebastian played well but it Lierrey was just better with everything
But Viper you can see that most of his problems would be solved by fucking walling, holy hell man. He will still lose, sure, but goddamn man losing to constant loss of villagers in a way that was prevented by the enemy by, again, just walling or funnel walling, is so frustrating
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>>736436178
>Hera wouldn't do well in those
Hera also can't seem to actually play with well with others. Whenever he played with GL it always seemed awkward as fuck. Doesn't help all of them had been friends for 10+ years. aM won games when he was with them but I don't think those guys had the same level of connection with each other like GL did.
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>>736436345
Would have had more food for the baby if he had that 60k
Instead, Hera will help Canada and their people with "point of privileges"
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predictions for tomorrow?
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>>736436531
Depends if Hera sandbags to please his haters or not. Larry always chokes against him.
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>>736436523
>Canada
Wrong hemisphere.
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>players entire strat when losing is to raid you back into the game
>do absolutely nothing to prevent this
>lose
Man
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When's Hidden Cup?
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well, there you go!
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>>736436735
I don't get the hype for hidden cup. Most people who watch the pros can guess the players correctly and the maps are disgustingly boring.
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>>736436692
unrepentant micro nerd runs into better micro nerd
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>>736436846
This is the problem with both Viper and Larry. They can't beat better micro nerds like Hera. Meanwhile, MBL and Yo keep taking games off of Hera purely off of chaos and off meta play.
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>>736436735
After WE tells T90 that they are not giving him a penny for TTL6 and he panics
>>736436795
Yes but the illusion is fun in itself
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>>736436735
>>736436795
I want a cup more like HotS's Meta Madness, where they ban like 50 of the best heroes, in this case civs, outright, so we get to see the usually lesser played civs
I just want to see Teutons, man
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>>736435426
Larry's a gigachad who doesn't buy shitty cashgrab DLCs and plays at the absolute top level despite never practicing. He's busy fucking hot babes while Hera grinds the ranked ladder on stream but still puts up a good fight.
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>viper experiences lag
>during a top-tier LAN tournament
Totally not rigged
Is it the tournament organizers or the AOE2 server staff, that did it?
Both Hera and casters would have motives
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>>736436735
t90 tournies have the most boring settings and maps. we need more exciting tournaments that push the players beyond standard builds. otherwise boring ass players like hera and lieetereryetyryr will continue dominating
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>>736421007
>Soe
I don't what that is, but it sounds like a cheap whore.
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>>736436982
It should be hidden everything. Hidden draft, hidden map picks, random map of the unpicked ones to start. Also random settings for map size and resources.
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>>736437212
The thing is that Hidden Cup qualifiers and semis are still really entertaining, grand finals is then Hera vs someone and who cares then
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>>736435716
How would quick-walls work if the game lags during a LAN tournament?
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>>736437361
Settle down viper.
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>>736437170
>the guy that beat him like 20 different times in tournies needs a handicap to beat him
Come on now. At least save the cope for when he wins the finals again. Even if he was given that game for free he'd still lose.
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>>736437361
Who says anything about quick walls?
Oh man I just lost a fight in the enemy base to 10 scout cavs, and they're coming...I wonder what should I doOoOo???
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>>736437430
Explain the lag, hoe, or jump off a cliff
No one likes lag at LAN tournaments
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>>736437543
>>736437552
No explanation of lag at LAN tournament, opinions discarded



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