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Do they celebrate Easter in Hometown?
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>>736421820
Don't know
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Bunnysuit Noelle sex
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>>736421820
Christmas exists so probably
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Philosophical zombie, Man against Time or anti-villain?
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>>736422363
I always saw him as the right man in the wrong place/time
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>>736422363
none of the above. their just a puppet in my way
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>>736422363
unironically all three at the same time
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>>736422363
we will only know by the time chapter 7 releases
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I just think she's neat and very sniffable!
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>>736421820
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>>736421820
>mayonegg
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>>736421951
>>736424462
Based.
>>736424508
Theythems = no translation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jD_FpkTPM
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>>736422363
OH KRIS... KRIS, KRIS, YOU'VE BEEN A GOOD VEHICLE, AND I'VE ENJOYED THE RIDE. BUT NOW HE'S WEAK AND FULL OF HOLES. IT'S ALMOST TIME TO SHUFFLE OFF THE BUFFALO!
AH, KRIS IS A BABE IN THE WOODS, WITH A LARGE HOLE WHERE HIS CONSCIENCE USED TO BE, AND WHEN I GO, CHILDREN, I WILL PULL THAT RIPCORD. AND YOU WATCH KRIS, REMEMBER, WATCH HIM! BUT NOT FOR LONG...
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>>736424508
it's amazing how the toby engine here keeps twisting everything he does into something chuddy somehow

I wonder how it will handle chapter 5 suselle here
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>>736425659
The Latinx community themselves were the ones who did that in this occasion.
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>>736425659
The 46 minutes long suselle scene (unskippable) will be counter-balanced by weird route Noelle doing a columbine and raping Kris, trust the plan.
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>>736425974
keep inhaling that hopium

truth is, these threads will be even more unusable after 5 drops
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>Latinx Twitter seethe threads allowed to run rampant for a week
>the spics get bored and leave
>first thread where people stay on-topic without seething gets culled
#NOOTICING
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>>736426706
as a resident macaco, my anger isn't as much the lack of a translation as it is Toby making everyone wait for longer for the japanese translation (and ONLY this single language) instead of going english only to the end and letting the japs fan translate it themselves like everyone else
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The Thorn Ring is an anagram for Northern Lights except with no L
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>>736426979
you still got
>elhts
left to use
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>>736426979
This is the real reason Toby only ever made a Japanese translation btw. These autistic, beloved metalore wordplays of his will be either lost or altered and he HATES that shit.
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>>736426889
Undertale got a Japanese translation, Deltarune is the sequel, it makes sense to honor that when Undertale was extremely popular in Japan
Toby has also developed extensive connections in the Japanese industry, people can complain about his personal preferences all they want but maintaining that relationship with Japan is completely rational at this point
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>>736425417
wrong horror franchise
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>>736427520
Surface level comparison.
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Deltatroon
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Noelle and her bare feet
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>>736426979
It's not an anagram if it doesn't use all the letters in the word.
"DELTARUNE," "UNALTERED," "UNRELATED," and "NUDEALERT" are all anagrams of "UNDERTALE," but "NEUTRAL" is not.
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>>736427656
as opposed to "durr character gets possessed it like twin peaks"?
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>>736427786
"No L" is Noelle dummy
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>>736425659
I will forgive him literally everything he does if he allows me to kill everyone or almost everyone in Side B.
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>>736427778
Noelle's weird keratinous hoof-heels
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>>736426979
Thorn Ring is an anagram for Nigr Tornh
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>>736427863
There are more parallels than that, but yes, that's still more than "uhm a sewer was mentioned once and the main characters are kind of children kind of like in the stories from coke fiend King?"
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"The Thorn Ring is Northernlights with No L (Noelle)" is incredibly psychotic and inflicts mental damage on me. Either
>Toby chose the name of a major character, the central object & motif of weird route, and a major prophecy thing based on pseudo-anagram autism
Or
>The universe is reshaping itself to benefit Toby Fox's writing
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>tfw no Noelle gf
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>>736421820
Probably. The only reason they didn't in Undertale was because they lived underground (which is why they had gyftmas instead of Christmas). Since Christmas exists in Deltarune, so does Easter probably.
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>>736427350
Undertale DEMO got a korean translation and he never bothered finishing that
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>>736425659
>>736425815
Fucking hilarious thing is that the spics started crying that the japanese translation is shit, only for the japanese side of the fanbase to call them retards.
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>>736427945
>expecting this much self indulgency in a toby fox game
prepare to be cucked even harder than "Chara destroys the game" was
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>>736426706
Yeah, I genuinely have no idea why last thread was deleted, it was pretty normal, on-topic and with no schizos. Strange. I guess janny wants his culture war slop thread.
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>>736422847
>Use kris to rape and corrupt noelle
>Use noelle to rape kris back
guys I think it isn't an angel it's a demon
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>>736428648
>Chara killing everyone is cucking someone who wanted to kill everyone
???
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>>736427939
"THORN RING" is 9 letters, "NORTHERN LIGHT" is 13. It's not a "psuedo-anagram," it's just two phrases that share some (not all) letters. You don't use the L and you don't use the E either (or the S, in your version).
It's not significant and it's not even coincidence. Coincidences are remarkable, this is just connecting dots that aren't there.
This isn't "analyzing wordplay," it's genuine Qanon level actual mentally ill schizo shit. There is a degree of schizo that is accepted and praised here when we make connections and theories based on "themes and such" but when you're doing numerology and Kabbalah bullshit that is actually dangerous. When you're finding meaning in "these words are anagrams even though they don't have all the same letters or even use the same letters" you're casting a net so wide it can find anything, you're abusing the pattern-recognition part of your brain to the point that you WILL develop genuine mental illness if you continue. NEVER go full schizo.
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>>736428749
not gonna look up the text dump right now, but chara overtly says she is in control right now and you don't have a choice on the matter

if you want an actual evil power fantasy, look at how the undertale yellow genocide route plays out
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>>736428627
I love how the Latinxs keep calling Toby a jew for not pandering to them and in general acting like they're some big anti jew force when LATAM is the most kiked it has ever been with two of its biggest countries (Argentina and Mexico) being ran by an extreme shabbos goy and a living antisemitic cariature respectively and with most of the retarded spics on Xitter on both sides of the culture war being proud supporters of one or the other.
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>>736428851
>undertale yellow genocide route
I will forever be grateful that it has a distinct feeling from the original genocide route.
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>>736428049
>he doesn't even know why ICE-E is there
oh so you're just a fucking retard
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>>736429034
I don't care about Stephen King cocaineslop, sorry.
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>>736428785
>NEVER go full schizo
Too late, Noelle Knighters and Doelesters broke me.
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>>736427786
>>736428785
>Kris is not smiling nor enjoying it guys that's just the fence doing a coinkydink
you will simply keep getting BTFO, sceptic midwit
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>>736428851
Chara only says "since when are you in control" if you refuse to destroy the world. If you accept it she just says you're a great partner. It's mainly just to say your choice ran out at that scene because you're too far gone, the job needs to be finished.
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Im from LatAm and i think the faggots complaining about toby not translating his games to spanish are a bunch of entitled bitches
Sometimes it really feels like they think they're the center of the world. I dont blame toby for choosing to cuddle up with cute japanese fans over smelly, fat brown retards, i would do the same
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>>736422143
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>>736429030
eh it's really a fanservice route that leans into fandom perceptions of the genocide route instead of what it actually tried to say
which is why I love it and prefer over the original
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>>736422363
Dess's molested puppy.
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>>736429030
It is the best route but that isn't saying much since Yellow isn't good. It's completely morally bizarre and goes against every theme of karma in UT/DR, Clover gaining LOVE by being angry is nonsensical slop stolen straight from Glitchtale but it's very cool and hype.
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>>736429417
greater than ring
based
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>>736425659
The Latinx portrayed him as an evil racist jewish chud lol
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Every time I hear more secondhand information about Yellow I find myself wondering if I'm even hearing about the same game I remember people praising so much a while back.
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>>736427350
Toby is also just a weaboo and will always give a priority to them. It's the country filled with his heroes and Undertale allows him to live his dream of working with them. He isn't going to abandon it for no reason, it's more likely for him to write the game in nipponese first lol.
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>>736429684
He literally is, he's a touhoufag. Toby is a textbook case of "dark woke" aka old 4chan.
>negrotown
>back to the kitchen anb make me a fucking sandwich
>homophobia is for fags
>tl;dr eat shit faggots
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>>736429731
yellow is fine despite its failings.
as i've always explained it,
>it starts off slow, builds up a good sprint near the end, and trips right at the finish line
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>>736429868
The Susie Harem Project...
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>>736428785
THE THORN RING is 12 letters you fucking dingus. And it's every letter of NORTHERNLIGHT except No L.
Is it really a coincidence to use NORTHERNLIGHT instead of the more natural NORTHERNLIGHTS? No, I don't think so.
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>>736429731
I always didn't like Yellow but even here it was always controversial because of the true pacifist ending. People still love it enough to have a years long general about it, though.
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>>736426979
Kris is an anagram of Frisk without the F (for female)
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>>736428627
I mean, of course they would defend Toby, he appeals to them like crazy.
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>>736429731
>I remember people praising so much a while back.
Where?
Here for the first year or so it was mostly people seething about the pacifist ending and discussing how to fix it and various other aspects of the game.
The recent threads are far more positive and accepting of the game.
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>>736429604
>goes against every theme of karma in UT/DR
what if I think that was one of the shittiest portions of both games?
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>>736427225
Is it true she hunts virgins at night?
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>>736430607
it's true
I'M VIRGINS
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>>736428785
Accurate. I feel like some people look into things too deeply in these games. Not everything is foreshadowing or an anagram, somethings are just stuff Toby found cool.
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>>736430595
Then you fit right in with the average yellow fan as they seem to dislike what Toby actually tries to do.
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>died to the last fucking attack of the black knight

I'm never beating the doelester. Feels bad, man.
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>>736430281
>THE THORN RING is 12 letters you fucking dingus. And it's every letter of NORTHERNLIGHT except No L.
That's still not the same amount of letters as in "NORTHERN LIGHT" and you're still not using all of them. It's not a fucking anagram.
>Is it really a coincidence to use NORTHERNLIGHT instead of the more natural NORTHERNLIGHTS? No, I don't think so.
Then of course you must be aware that it's not "The Thorn Ring." It's always just "ThornRing," even when Noelle talks about it in the Light World. Don't you know that much?
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>>736430694
well you're [GODDAMN RIGHT] but don't blame me
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>>736430747
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>736430657
Noelle will win
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>>736429085
well evidently you don't care about deltarune either
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>>736430694
Explain what you think Toby tries to do, then. Because "karma" over how I treat the pixels never struck me as something Toby really cared about.
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>>736430551
he’s probably referring to places like xitter and reddit, but even then you had tons of people shitting on the pacifist ending
enough to prop up the edgy ‘commit a massacre to save 7 kids’ as the best ending
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>>736430965
Toby Fox has directly mentioned David Lynch at least once while he has never said anything about the coke fiend. You sound raped.
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>>736429731
the reason there are still yellow threads is because of its flaws, not because of what it did good
everyone praising it just swallowed the pacifist ending emotion slop without thinking deeply about it
but if you stop for a moment and think "wait a minute" you start to see the cracks, and those cracks, while small, are enough to trigger the autism of pretty much all fan creators that make content off yellow, be it devs or writers, to want to "fix it" since it got so close to being good
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>>736422363
Woman against God (Me)
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>>736431254
The "let's fix the pacifist ending" period of those threads is long gone now.
It's currently mostly people attached to the characters writing and discussing fanfiction and fanart, and some people creating original works on a similar vein.
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I stand with my br brothers.
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>>736425417
This reminds me of this Kris as Laura Palmer fanart that I have.
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>>736431654
Neat but not a good fit, Kris is much closer to Leland than Laura, that role is split between Dess and Noelle.
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>>736430748
>Kris... that's not THE THORN RING is it?
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>>736427350
>Deltarune is the sequel
Erm, it's a parallel story for those who have played Undertale
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>>736421820
Reposting cause the requester told me to.
Also because is where the gooners are.
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>>736431820
Yeah? Is that what she says? Is that the EXACT quote from that scene? Are you sure?
Uh oh! Wrong again! Play the game, retard!
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>>736431976
>the face she's making
This was so fucking hot...
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>>736431876
human dess is cringe and non canon
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>>736430931
susie was a bitch, here
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>>736432371
she's a two timing ho
dess will win
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>>736432190
>How long did it take her to smile?
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>>736430984
What I mean by "karma" is that both UT/DR have bad actions reward bad consequences and good actions reward good consequences. So being nice means everyone is happy and safe while being evil means everyone is dead. Meanwhile in Yellow being evil is the only way Clover lives and fulfills his goal. It's like if Toby had genocide be the only route the monsters escaped underground or Asriel/Chara was saved, for example.
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>>736431876
Based as fuck, don't listen to the other anon. Human dess is non canon but I appreciate any human sexo OC.
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>>736430747
She's the Roaring Knight you dumb chud. Now you're going to be molested even harder.
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>>736429134
Kris enjoys the weird route but not overtly so, it's hidden from even himself. He wouldn't be smilling wildly. It was just the fence.
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>>736432783
I don't see a problem with that premise. The human with the yellow soul didn't escape the underground, this is one of like three truly canon things we know about them. Of course playing along with the Underground's wants ends with them dying.
This
>but I was nice, I want a happy ending where nobody loses!
mindset is really weird.
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>>736431183
...but he didn't mention lynch as an inspiration. In any event you clearly have no response to me pointing out your obvious ignorance and can only shriek buzzwords.
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>>736429926
Toby is a chud woke lolicon and we love him for it.
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>>736433352
>This
>>but I was nice, I want a happy ending where nobody loses!
This is literally how Toby works with all his games. So we go back to my first comment how yellow fans don't actually like how Toby works. You're proving my point.
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>>736432783
You accomplish your goal in UT Genocide too. You kill everyone and get stronger. Whether or not you're satisfied with the outcome is your own choice.
UTY Genocide/Justice is hardly a happy ending. Clover "wins," but they have to kill a lot of good people to get there. Their justice isn't unwavering and they're not unchanged by the experience. And the outcome is plenty ambiguous, what does "saving" the human SOULs actually accomplish, beyond leaving the ruins of monsterkind to certain doom?

It's also worth remembering that the crux of Undertale's morality play is that you have the power to save and reload as much as you want, you can do whatever you want and have unlimited tries to do it.
This doesn't apply to UTY, where Clover relies on Flowey's power to SAVE and doesn't remember the resets. Clover isn't in the same position that you/Frisk/Chara were.
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>>736431709
The best part about the snowgrave route is I get to traumatize two characters for the price of one!

Kick me all you want Kris, it won't unrape your childhood best friend.
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>>736433254
...and similar things my coping sceptic ass says when I get BTFO
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>>736431254
Don't kid yourself, there's still yellow threads because people want to goon to Ceroba or Martlet or discussing a fan project someone is making. Everytime I go into one of your threads you people aren't discussing Yellow's plot.
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>>736432441
>>736430931
Susan is just affection starved, none of this is sexual to her. She wants FRIENDS at all costs.
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Why does everyone always make it sound like there are only the pacifist and genocide endings in undertale? There are like 8 different neutral endings depending on who you selectively kill or spare. One of the neutral endings is arguably even worse than genocide because you leave just enough monsters alive to keep their society going but you've killed all their leadership and made them all hate you.
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>>736430551
The ending generating so much desire to fix it is a product of the praise of what comes before it. If the game weren't good nobody would care that much about a weak ending.
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>>736433664
>discussing a fan project someone is making
you list that as if its a negative
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Toby Fox is one of the greatest criminals of our time.
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>>736433558
Don't kid yourself, anon, the way Yellow does its genocide is completely different from Undertale. In Undertale you end completely alone in a destroyed world and you need to sell your SOUL to even play the game again (with a constant reminder of your actions). In Yellow, Clover lives and accomplish his goals, we don't know if he feels bad about it or not. It's undoubtedly not as bad as Undertale's genocide for the player itself. Even the people I'm arguing with seem to agree Yellow's genocide works completely different. You can personally enjoy it but Toby would never write a route where you accomplish anything good by being genocidal.
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>>736433820
I didn't mean it as a negative, just what happens. Maybe it's because it's after the comment about gooning but I was just trying to be objective.
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>>736434009
Doebros are in for a rude awakening...
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>>736430931
Sadly she will and will kill these threads with her "win".
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>>736433254
Tony decided to forcefully turn Kris around and align his face with the fence at the end of the cutscene, no matter our previous position, this is an undebatable fact. That being said, the smile is simulated, meaning the enjoyment is internalized, a dark desire hidden deep, quite literally a guilty pleasure.
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>>736434009
Toby unironically has a better understanding of morality and the consequences of evil deeds than his fans. Genocide is objectively evil and those who advocate it are indeed deserving of the harshest punishment. Its one thing to hurt or kill individuals who pose a direct threat to you. But to arbitrarily destroy an entire group and condemn the guilty and innocent alike to death is simply evil. There is no justification for it.
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>>736434173
People who think the weird route will lead to a good ending are delusional, even in Deltarune being violent has Tenna and Jackenstein die. You will have a worse ending.
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>>736434297
>Tony decided to forcefully turn Kris around
kris does that after most cutscenes
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>>736432783
Oh my god I don't care.
My desire with there stories is just to see how everything unfolds.
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>>736431849
It's not a direct sequel but it's the second game in the series so it's basically a spiritual one.
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>>736434423
Yeah it's gonna be a trainwreck of pain, regret and fear but I trust it will be stylish and hot.
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>>736434486
he could have moved him one pixel up to not have the smile, I also thought it was a smile the first time I played
really hope that tobias shows kris isn't the "good muffin didnt do anything wrong" the fanbase portrays him as (and noelle too while on it)
maybe that's why he won't sell merch of the lightners, see people butchering their plushies after the shayy drama or digital circus
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>>736432441
Facts. Dess ALREADY won.
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>>736434486
Notice how you were forced to ignore the face alignment with the fence part? Yeah.
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>>736433485
You love that he sends money to BLM bail funds and tranny charities?
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>>736433597
Is this about FemKris or what?
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The Weird Route will end with you winning and destroying the world.
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>>736433762
I love the neutral endings but they are "incomplete" by design, they aren't true closures of the narrative like the other two.
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>>736434589
>really hope that tobias shows kris isn't the "good muffin didnt do anything wrong" the fanbase portrays him as
Literally any sweepstake story and flashback shows how he's an absolute edgy asshole and an unlikeable autist prick.
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>>736434676
idc about whatever your argument with that other anon, i just wanted to say that
>>736434589
i really don't think he'd care that much to move it. there are weirder coincidences.
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>>736434532
Proving my point.
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>>736434009
>Yellow does its genocide is completely different from Undertale
Yellow follows the UT genocide route very closely in all ways it matters to the average fan, except for the very last bit.
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>>736434297
I guess Toby liked the optical illusion and decided to keep it. Or maybe he didn't notice it as Kris turns in almost every cutscene. I wouldn't say it was fully intentional and was at best a happy little accident.
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>>736434846
I mean, I wasn't trying to debunk you or anything.
Though that's just my taste, I can't speak for other yellow fans.
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>>736434818
that wasn't shown in game yet so the fanbase doesn't care, they will make both kris and noelle absolute angels (pun intended) regardless
really hoping tobias flips the table on everyone (though I'm losing faith in him each passing day)
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>>736434886
I didn't mean gameplay wise, I meant storywise. I should have used better wording, sorry. Yellow's genocide is about revenge with a purpose while Undertale is about curiousity and mindless killing, plus the whole thing about consequences that I said in my original comment.
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>>736428627
How the fuck would the Japanese know the translation is good if they barely know English?
I played both UT and DT in both English and JP, they're fine. A lot of the humour is lost though since it's very much based on delivery (but a lot of puns are kept, which is impressive)
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>>736434774
Well yeah they are supposed to make you want to replay the game but I wouldn't say they are incomplete. If you get a neutral ending and never play the game again that is your canonical ending for the game. Its meant to be played multiple times but nothing forces you to play it until you do genocide. There's plenty of people who went natural pacifist to true pacifist and never attempted genocide. Just like there are people who went bad neutral end the genocide and never played the game again. I dont know if guess my opinion on the matter is that all of the endings are just as cannon as the others. Especially since it seems like the story for deltarune seems to imply that all the time warp fuckery caused the current situation.
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>>736434957
Ah, alright. There's nothing wrong with liking Undertale the way you do, it's just my personal observations.
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>>736434818
At most they show he's a maso prankster who gets bullied by susie and plays piano for Noelle
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>>736434818
don't forget about the diehard contrarian element, Kris hates anime but acts like the chuuniest xxXKiritoDarkFlameDoeAvengerXxx fucker, carrying knives and blushing when female Barney touches them, the devil summoning thing with the fat goth cat etc.
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>>736433762
Neutral endings are super underrated, yeah. I think it's because it's an in-between ending between the two extremes so people just see it as a step towards pacifist and genocide then their own thing.
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>>736435073
Some nipponese are learning english and thus posting their thoughts about it.
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>>736433737
Dude, have you never played Undertale before? It’s painfully obvious what’s happening.
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>>736433762
most people like finality, the neutral endings are mostly open ended and get just a phone call saying what happened instead of being shown
it is like todd saying fallout 3 had hundreds of endings but they are all one with different slideshows, or mass effect 3's ending. people want something that matters, not whatever the devs pull off their ass because they were lazy
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>>736434760
That's already genocide, just replace Noelle with Chara/Frisk.
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Noelle has 10 fingers and 10 toes. She doesn't have hoofs.
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>>736435439
Ignore him, he's coping about his bitch dino wife
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>>736435439
my headcanon is gaster is a yurifag and is actively rewriting the main route to put them together, which is why it feels very forced
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>>736434818
A lot of people still see Kris as a pure innocent angel, but I think it's because this fanbase can't handle any morally gray characters.
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>>736435586
Toby won't make Gaster even more of his self-insert than he already is.
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>>736434941
>uhhh, ehm, well... Toby is just doing things randomly I le guess xD?
bro just take the L, stop embarrassing yourself
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>>736434009
>In Undertale you end completely alone in a destroyed world and you need to sell your SOUL to even play the game again (with a constant reminder of your actions).
Actually, my new bff Chara thanked me for giving their life new purpose and rewarded me with a new adventure and a happily ever after.
If you think that ending is so bad that you'd rather sell your soul to undo it, that's a you problem, if Toby intended for it to be bad then that's Toby's problem because it's not.
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>>736435038
I keep my statement.
In UTY you go around finishing the killcount on each area, there is edgy flavor text everywhere, normal route cutscenes get "broken", you watch the characters die horribly, some character turn into super hard bosses.

That's all things taken straight from UT, except for the jarring one hit kills, the "meta" angle and player punishing ending.

Meanwhile, the weird route only starts on the second chapter, and has minimal presence on chapters 3 and 4, not including a single alternate boss battle besides Eram changing his lines a little bit.

Snowgrave might have a similar "commentary" going on, but it plays out is a very different way genocide did.
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>>736435439
>>736435572
A starved yurifag thinks of scissors.
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>>736434818
I personally cannot imagine Kris genuinely being evil at his core. There must be a good reason for why he's doing what he's doing, even if it involves performing some unsavory actions, I believe his final objectives are born out of goodness. Could he have a darker side? Sure, but I don't think it's this dark side that's driving him in the Normal route.
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>>736435838
A rabid coomer swings his shrimp at nothing.
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>>736435568
And 3 legs, apparently.
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>>736433553
I'm sorry, but after how much of Deltarune Toby has spent begging the player not to be afraid of the Fight button on a fundamental level, I'm not going to trust a reading of Undertale's story that validates the people who are afraid of it.
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>>736435961
A suselletroon drops xis mask and concedes.
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>>736435994
I want to lick her teeth.
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>>736436121
the krusie whale flops in the face of doe on human kino
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>>736435439
People will cope to the bitter ending Suselle won't happen. That's life
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>>736436093
My point has nothing to do with FIGHTing or not. You can FIGHT as much as you want during Undertale's true pacifist (and it's even required against Asgore and Flowey), it's more so you can't kill. Toby doesn't reward actually killing innocent people.
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>>736435786
>That's all things taken straight from UT, except for the jarring one hit kills, the "meta" angle and player punishing ending.
Yeah, it just takes the surface appeal of it and removes everything that made Undertale's genocide. That's why I said Yellow's evil route was still genocide, but completely different from Undertale's genocide route.
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>>736435732
I'm a humanbro too and having them as our loyal wives is indeed based, but most people don't see it that way and would rather continue playing. I'm speaking for the normies here.
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>>736436276
It's just bad writing for the sake of putting a forced fetish in.
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>>736435940
Kris is morally gray, it's that simple. He isn't pure evil but he isn't above doing evil actions for the right reasons.
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>>736435439
This is some of the most cliche "omg why am I suddenly thinking of this person??????" romance bullshit I have ever seen. I don't know how people can be blind to it.
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>>736431876
Original anon here. Thanks again for drawing my request. I'm hyped
>>736432271
Correction, she's CUTE and non-canon
>>736432956
I love both the humans and monsters
_mr0x0's Chara and Frisk are sexy
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>>736436674
>I don't know how people can be blind to it.
They aren't, it's just cringe, forced and bad so anyone that isn't tumblr brained tries to ignore it in hopes it goes away (it won't)
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>>736431876
This is fucking great, amazing job
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>>736436674
They (rightfully) think Susie's romance with Noelle is shit and are clinging to the shipbaiting with Kris Toby sprinkles in for fanservice as a cope.
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>>736436404
>innocent people
Every single monster in UT attacked Frisk on their own and none of them abort their attack right off the bat. Frisk is fully justified in-universe to kill all of them back. It's only the retarded meta angle that You are almighty, therefore it's your moral duty to forgive them.
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>>736436761
>I love both the humans and monsters
>_mr0x0's Chara and Frisk are sexy
Same, they're my favorite off-model adult human designs. I also love monsters too even if I have my preferences.
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>>736437045
Frisk might be justified but that doesn't mean she should, plus Toby rewards you for going above and beyond what you should do. Also you can spare almost every monster when they're at low health.
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The ideal ending
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>>736436674
It's just cope because they don't want to be canon, just like how Toby saying Susie likes a shy girl in the stream was completely ignored and memoryholed.
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>>736437045
It's only unjustified when the monsters are already spareable
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We don't even have a body and we have bitches trying to jump our soul dick
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>>736436093
>begging the player not to be afraid of the Fight button
Yet, all the extra content of Castle Town, extra interactions from a few characters and good fates for other (Berdly Tenna and Jackenstein) is locked behind sparing and filling the recruit numbers.

The only times FIGHTing is presented as something good is when the game railroads you into doing it without the option to spare.
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>>736435561
It's like Genocide except there's nobody to fuck you over at the end.
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>>736435940
Kriss when no soul be like
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>>736429868
Will never happen. For some reason. Leftists pride themselves on being absolute degenerates who don't believe in stuffy, old, regressive thinking like chastity or inhibition or sexual exclusivity or using sex as a toll for procreation. As such, there should be no such thing as jealousy or broken hearts or love triangles in their stories, since everyone should just get along and love each other, right? Yet they don't. They never do.

Then you get that Xenoblade ending which sent them into a frothing rage. Why? Isn't that what they want? Everyone to love each other?

So what's the deal? Why don't their actions match their words?
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>>736437557
The shy girl is Kris btw.
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>>736437092
I like _mr0x0's Frisk most because of the hair color.
I want porn of that design
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>>736437245
basedest
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>>736437689
Wrong. Kris is Toby’s self insert so he can jerk off and cry in the corner.
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>>736437670
>So what's the deal?
They (Toby included) are driven by a queer and feminist mindset behind all that talking.

The quiet part is that they promote sexual liberation for everyone EXCEPT one group of people which they consistently put down, that being dominant heterossexual men.
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>>736432371
Susie was? Noelle was the real cunt in that scene
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>>736424963
>>736433597
furry mankris guy vs delusional femkris guy who wins
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>>736437890
they both were
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>>736437434
That's just Noelle though.
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>>736437584
Chara only fucks you over if you reject her.
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>>736436404
Your point has everything to do with FIGHTing.
If the point of Undertale was to be nice in every possible circumstance then there wouldn't be a genocide route at all. That doesn't need to exist. The difference between being nice and mean could be as softened as in Deltarune chapter 1 where all the enemies run and they just don't like you much for beating them up. Undertale doesn't want you to be nice or mean to the characters, it wants you to understand what your real motivations are in whatever your preferred treatment of them is.
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>>736437749
I prefer Frisk in general as well, yeah. When I had access to her poipiku I don't think adult Frisk had porn of her, just loli Frisk/Chara and the adult Chara, sadly. I guess I will have to be content with lewd art of her.
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>>736437689
This is the ultimate monkeypaw for the average /v/irgin.
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>>736438275
and for the tumblr folx as well
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>>736438275
Everyone would be mad. Toby would be a legend for doing this.
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>>736438054
I don't think that was the point of Undertale, that wasn't part of the argument. My point is that Toby gives you positive consequences for being nice and negative consequences for being evil. Genocide has to exist to show the other side, otherwise the consequences aren't actually real. It's not about what Toby wants, just how he deals with being nice versus being violent.
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>>736438275
It would be the best outcome possible!
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>>736438275
canon fem Kris would obliterate the fandom
>/v/ and hmofa fags mad they got tricked into supporting yuri ships for a decade
>mainstream fandom fags mad Kris wasn't a sexless blob and can be reasonably called she/her canonically



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