>removing ray tracing makes the game less blurry and improves performancewhats the point?
I mean, you bought it
>>736425987>whats the point?it sounds great to a room full of potential investors
>>736425987I forgot about this game. I wanna try it sometime just to see if it pushes my hardware.
I watched the talk on how they did their global illumination system for doom dark ages.The guy seemed really on point like a proper id software engineer should be and throwing numbers around "bla bla cascasing shadows and we only compute those in the view frustrum and do a radius from the camera to set sub division details etc etc", "in turn we can run the ligthing pass in 2miliseconds"then you play the actual game and you barely get 100fps on a 1000 dollar gpueither the artists are botching everything or the dude and his team fucking lied
>>736425987But you will miss out on reflections in puddles and water droplets! Turn it back right now, antiNvidia scum!
I'm more pissed about the upscaling being a fucking piece of jank in pretty much every game I've tried.Such bullshit. Modern devs should be flogged publicly for that crap.
>>736425987What are these RTOFF commands?
>>736426356Are you still using 1080p display?
>>736425987screenshots mostly there is a case for using ray tracing as a gameplay element but that would restrict your player pool. Ray tracing is alot like VR>Futuristic sounding feature>games that do it well can be counted on 1 hand>john carmack was fucking with it long before anyone else Seriously how the fuck did this space alien in human get real time reflections(not exactly ray tracing but same thing its trying to do) in 2001. Towers were falling and he said fuck it lets flex on every game out there and have real mirrors in our game. You could legit no clip through the mirrors in the game and see nothing behind them no dev tricks to simulate a mirror.(7:20 for an example of real time reflections)https://youtu.be/BXzJ0wFj-ag?si=MeraJUSL0NY3y5b9&t=440
>>736426536Yes.
>>736426356AMD problems be like
>>736426663I piss on AMD but I don't blame this one on them, bro's got a nVidia, it's also janky.
>>736426224It doesn't look that great to justify relatively heavy performance.It has volumetric fog everywhere and looks muddy in general.It also defaults to transformer based dlss, so if you're on nvidia and using dlss it's a good choice to force the regular version to avoid huge performance hit.This is a game what is Nvidia's sponsoring/lobbying victim. Can't see it as anything else.
>>736426226>>736426595It would seem doom's lightning has taken a tumble since 2001
>>736426628Then no wonder upscaling looks like shit.You should instead use DLAA/FSR Native AA, otherwise games will look like shit, even TAA is unusable at FHD.
>>736426776oh btw I'm not bullshitting and that's real numbershere's the talk https://youtu.be/VTrdeqMMMK0 and he even starts the talks by shitting on tech youtubers criticizing engineers lol
>>736426890I will, thanks.
>>7364259876800xt is a cool gpu
>>736425987Devs are shilling memetracing not because it "looks better" but because theyre lazy niggers who want lighting automated instead of needing to put in the effort of crafting it themselves. Even if it means the end user needs to drop 2 grand for a card and have the game run at half performance
>>736425987I will pirate it just to use it as a benchmark.For a title with forced RT the performance isn't awful.Random UE5 garbage with lumen and nanite will perform much worse.
>>736425987fake crapcant turn off ray tracing in doom dark ages since there is no fallback solution, if you turn it off the screen goes black>>736426978i hate how they thought a 4 day final bake for all maps is worth having the game run 5x worseinstead they could have just built a bigger render farm that would bake it in a hour or two and stick to lightprobes and light mapsespecially since doom dark ages is static, since denosiing is so slow its basically prebaked and very low sample since even with thousands of samples per frame its just an ugly blurry mess that dosnt catch any details and they have to use screen space shadows and AO to fill it in
>>736426595what a waste of timeyou can just do this in blender if you really want to
>>736426890doesn't change his point that upscaling has more flaws, even at 1440p, than classic AA like msaa if it's done properly HL Alyx exists and it proves it can be done in a modern game and look good even on a 1080p screen (sharp, no aa motion blur, minimal shimmer)
>>736429227It means developers can replicate their vision much easier instead of doing hack jobs that get only close enough.
>>736435358It's a VR game, majority of games are made for cucksoles, to be played on a large screen further from the player.If you got the same experience in VR as on console you would puke your guts after a minute.All the smearing effects are in place because those make development of games easier/cheaper.There is no other game like HL Alyx, that should tell you something. You just saw an unicorn. Things will only get worse from now on.
>>736425987>top pic shows a higher average framereteOP is a faggot as usual
>>736436183>truth nuked drops>thread diesthis whole thread was a sad poorfag complaining about raytracing
>>736425987>No more lightning for a mere 14fps gainIt's impressive that they got RT to run this fast even on an AMD gpu. Are you sure that's all off?TDA is disappointing but IDTech still slaps
>>736425987>AMD>ray tracingchoose one
>>736425987You can't remove RT from Doom the dark ages, dumbass. It literally has no other lighting system.
>>736425987works on my 9070xtultra nightmare settings (RT included) 4k, FSR4 quality, 60fpsit must suck being a brown poor lol
>>7364262261000 dollars is a midrange card these days. You can play minesweeper with that maybe. And this isn't 1999, you don't play games at 250 frames per second like Quake or something. You are truly blessed if you can get 60.
>>736425987the trifecta amd, microshit and nvidia actually work closely together which means they can easily manipulate you into consuming a shittier product and making sure you will upgrade your hardware in the future to account for their "errors"
>>736439062cute.a GTX 1060 could play DOOM at native 1440p maxed out at 90+ FPSa $70 card with 3 GB vram.
>>736439612>1440p>blud thinks this is impressive or some
>>736439726>ultra nightmare settings (RT included) 4k, FSR4 quality>4k, FSR4 qualitydo the maths, retard.
>>736439062>>736439726>it must suck being a brown poor lolyou get the video games (featuring us) while we get your countriesyou win this time white man
>>736426595It's kinda funny how the reflection in this video genuinely looks better than most raytraced games.Reminds me of nu-Hitman 2, which accomplished something similar without raytracing as well.
>upgrade to the latest dead on arrival gpu>have to use upscaling on years old games because its not strong enough for nativekek
>>736439247>1000 dollars is a midrange cardAbsolutely not. Check the steam stats and see the amount of people with cards better than a 4080/5070ti
>>736426890It's crazy but this is true. I have a 1080p ultrawide 144hz monitor that I've had for over ten years now. The image quality of the panel is great.Running the games in 1440p with virtual super resolution makes games look SO MUCH better, even when seen through a 1080p monitor.It's clear that games since the last 5 games are made with 1440p or higher in mind.Running the game at 1440p with upscaling looks much better than 1080p native, it's gross as fuck.
>>736440452nothing to do with popularity thoughbeit5070 ti / 9070 xt is a midrange card that offers 1440p 60fps in late 2024 games5080 is high end and 5090 is the premium tier
>>736440547>Running the game at 1440p with upscaling looks much better than 1080p native1440p upscaling quality is like 960p mate
>>7364409311440p in the highest quality level looks better than with no upscaling still. Internal resolution is 1200px tall or so. These games are cooked blurry as shit.
>>736425987I only have it on my ps5 how would I turn ray tracing off if I get the steam version?
>>736438261Some redditor ran it on 1660 Ti and forced it to work without RT. It doesn't have global illumination, but other light sources like torches and explosions still work.https://imgur.com/a/Uex6zsj
>>736440810my 3060ti begs to differ
>>736440017Render-to-Texture is an ancient technique that can have great payoffs if you optimize and use it right, and the average person wouldn't even realize it. At least, that's what I presume some reflections like those use. Modders can do it in the goddamn Halo 2 engine.
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