Was this game actually good or is it just zoomers being nostalgic for one of the five games that the GameCube had?
The on foot sections mostly sucked
the multiplayer banged hard and the on rails sections were worse than starfox 64 but decent. the little narrative it had was also enjoyable enough. first post is correct that the on foot sections were repetitive and dull tho
>>736437294I liked it. I thought the variety in the missions was pretty fun. Arwing, Landmaster, and on foot missions were all enjoyable. I think the only downside was that it was short as hell and didn't have branching paths if I remember right.
>>736437294It's like 40% good and 60% not playing with the Arwing.
>>736437521I always hated how they took away to flip the arwing left and right for sharp turns, its like they circumsized the ships. The land master definitely got a massive glowup though
>>736437294Fun party game at the time for when you got tired off too much Melee and Air Ride. Single player not really worth it.
>>736437294I liked it. I don't understand why it got so much hate. It was a great direction to take Star Fox and it's a shame they abandoned it. With some polishing and refinement, they could have developed it into something with Warhawk style multiplayer and it would be great.
>>736437294It didn't deserve the hate that it got. It's a good game, fun to play but it doesn't have the replayability that SF64 has.I'd categorize it as a worthwhile game to play in the series, but not a classic by any means.
>>736437294It's a mediocre game that people have rose-tinted glasses about (much like most NGC games).Bottom 3 Star Fox game, and worse than Star Fox Adventures (which is also a GameCube game).It is better than Star Fox Zero thoughever, so that's why Zoomer's probably think it's "good"
The formula is solid and I hope the new game follows it, but it needs obvious refiningOn rails should be quicker, faster paced, with more enemies on screen.Free range should be set in bigger areas, have multiple objectives, and a to of enemy ships On foot should play like a standard squad shooter, gears of war mass effect etcFinally the game should be 40% free range missions, 30% on rails missions, and 30% on foot missions (instead of 80% on foot missions) with multiplayer modes that are just free range vs, just on foot vs, and a mixed mode
>>736439229I think people would have liked the onfoot gameplay more if the default blaster wasn't such shit to use. Having to charge every shot to make it deal worthwhile damage was tedious
>>736437294Its pretty decent, I really like the VA work and the aesthetics. Felt like Star Fox got some real cash from the Sauria job. The multi was amazing.
>>736437294Legit good, singleplayer was short but solid. Big respect for steering away from rehashing 64 for the millionth time. The multiplayer maps were pure fucking soul, but very few people got to play them.
>>736437294It was a legit fun 3rd person shooter. Online would have been great.
>>736437294It's good enough to replay once in a while. Not every game should be a AAA unforgetful experience.
>>736437294It was nice to get new Arwing levels. Most of the rest of the game sucked, so people assumed they'd just make a sequel with the same Arwing gameplay but better everything else.
>>736437294Star Fox: Assault was awesome. Flawed, but awesome.Really fun missions, well-written characters, new story, great high-tech future art style, phenomenal soundtrack, addictive multiplayer.It had it all, and I hope the next Star Fox game(s) take after it in many ways.
>>736437294I went back and replayed it... and yeah it's pretty rough, still love Star Fox 64 though. A lot of Gamecube games I loved as a kid suck now though... Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron, Metroid Prime, Super Monkey Ball 2. Pikmin 1+2 and Animal Crossing are still as great as ever though.
Wolfs va for this game was great I dont know why they went all faux-british for zero/starlink.Fox was good too not amazing but I think he and Falco were fine.
>>736447564in what world does metroid prime and luigi's mansion suck lmao. metroid prime in particular is an all time classic
>>736447564>A lot of Gamecube games I loved as a kid suck now though... Luigi's Mansion, Rogue Squadron, Metroid Prime, Super Monkey Ball 2.Im sorry you hit your head in the interim, but all of those games are still fantastic and have no equals to this day.
>>736437294The ships are REALLY slow in the open stages, the projectile effects/explosions in the on-rails segments are somehow worse than Star Fox 64's. On-Game gample is kind of clunky.The game is also linear, and has less stages overall than Star Fox 64.Due to a combination of all that, it was actually seen pretty negatively when released, which is why they moved away from that.I can see why some people would enjoy it though, and it seemed like a solid direction for the series if they could fix the gameplay issues.
>>736449879>>736450612Metroid Prime is absolute dogshit, not one single person who likes it has good taste. Super Metroid was already massively overrated, but still good; Prime is just downright rancid and a complete bastardization of the series.
>>736437294There are a lot of rough edges to it but it offered a promising direction for the series that they unfortunately didn't expand upon. It's definitely looked back on way more fondly since the series just floundered and died after it.
>>736450612>>736449879Nah, Metroid Prime is trash and you're both shit-eating retards>one-stick first person movement feels terrible >extremely cramped 60° FOV especially bad since you must lock in place to be able to even turn your head slightly>for some reason manually aiming up and down is some herculean effort and you must jam the stick for like 5+ seconds just to slowly crawl your arm up>numerous areas are near pitch black dark with no flashlight (or even suit glow)>constant backtracking and ping-ponging to opposite ends of the world>new power-up paths all result in dead-ends aside from the one prescribed critical path (the game even recognizes its progression and navigation are terrible which is why it blatantly signposts everything with a literal quest marker)>bosses are dull Simon Says dogshit>no consistent way to farm missiles back if you waste them aside from backtracking all the way back to the ship or one of the few rare missile refill stations>scanning shit constantly is incredibly tedious and boring>enemies offer no incentive to bother with them and you can just run right past 90% of them barely taking a scratch>environments are extremely bland and generic (hot zone, cold zone, grass zone, rock zone)>environments are very visually flat and hard to read (especially in conjunction with the narrow FOV and restricted camera movement)>first-person platforming sections with a 60° FOV unsurprisingly feel terrible>map system is mostly fine except transitions between areas require you to completely exit that area, scroll over to the other area map, and then manually line up where the two meet >movement is incredibly underwhelming compared to Super Metroid and you are constantly starting and stopping>last third of the game becomes a shitty cover shooter in a game with some of the absolute worst combat and first person controls out there>cockblocks you at the end with massive long backtracking fetch quest for all the remaining chozo artifacts
>>736437294>zoomers>gamecubewhat is unc yapping about bruh
>>736437294It's literally Rouge Squadron 3: furry edition As in it's good, it tried to expand on previous games but it's not as refined as RS2. 64fags are mind broken by it because they cannot accept that repeating 64 never works and Assault actually tried to develop the series gameplay/lore/charactersFuck 64 fags. Assault is good.
The story is pretty fucking creepy.
>>736450742Oh look a 64 faggots sprouting shit as usual.Assault was rated 7-8/10 by EVERYONE at release and EVERYONE loved how it tried to expand the world of star fox. The only complaint anyone had were the on foot segments as the controls are janky. This is 29 years ago when 7/10 meant 7/10. Above average but not quite the best.
>>736437294StarFox Assault is the best game when you are not an Starfox fan. And yes, the "starfox fan" term is used as an insult here
KINO
>>736437294Assault is my favorite StarFox game and it's not even close. It's a solid game, although it could have been less linear.
>continued the plot of 64 and Adventures, continued worldbuilding >starts with Andrew inheriting Andross' army and getting mogged instantly. No, we're not rehashing Andross.>orchestal arrangements. New songs are good too>Pigma too fucked up even for Star Wolf. Had an anime miss piggy on on his ship>little shrine area in Sauria map based on advetures>aparoids are genuine threat to the universe, fucking up pepper and outright killing Pigma and Andrew>Falco's back, implied to have gotten into some gang shit during adventures>Krystal seems to have bigger tits>the only good multiplayer in the whole series. Sick maps and cool vehicle shitOnly real problem is losing arcade mode and the foot missions just being "blow up X targets". The game was originally supposed to be multiplayer only and you can tell cause anything not on-rails was just the multiplayer maps.Not the best game but it's solid for what it is and I actually liked the direction the lore was heading.
>>736437294This is a millennial game.
>>736437294It wasnt amazing but it was alright. Ground controls are jank, multiplayer focus was pretty neat. The only post-64 story that's good, and probably the last as well.
>>736444773wish they had included Leon and Panther to the unlockables as well
>>736451141didn't read lolsorry you got filtered so hard
>>736452209The soundtrack was phenomenal between original scores and new renditions of previous music. Easily best versions of Star Wolf and Asteroid Field tracks.
Multiplayer was kino
>>736452585nintendo should add Assault to the gamecube NSO right now...
It has a good foundation and there's a lot to like about it, but it's mediocre as a whole package.For such a short game, I struggle to complete it in one sitting. Usually around the Sauria or Corneria missions
>>736452585GameCube bros we had such good childhoods
>>736452585Played countless hours in multiplayer. I pray the new game's is just as fun, if not better.
>>736452651Have you played multiplayer nso
>>736452747The highlights are definitely Fortuna, Sargasso, Asteroid Belt, and R&D facility. The two final missions on the Aparoid world feel so bland because they don't really offer something new or a twist on what was already seen in a previous game. The on-foot mission for it was definitely a test of patience.
>>736452585I used to play so much Star Fox Assault, Kirby Air Ride, and Four Swords Adventures with my brother back in the day. We wouldn't even try and win we'd just fuck around. Good times.Same with a bunch of other multiplayer stuff.
>>736452992Sauria, Corneria, and on-foot Aparoid homeworld really is a nasty stretch of levels. Shame since I like the game overall but that part just feels like a drag with only Orbital Gate as a reprieve.
>>736449072Wolf was already faux British in 64
>>736451141Only good points are the pitch black darkness and the scanning
>>736437294It had a few problems but it also had neat ideas, and gets points for not being another retread of Lylat Wars / Star Fox 64. All they had to do was improve the on foot sections really.
>>736451141You're correct but nobody except me will agree with you. I can't fucking stand Metroid Prime.
>>736437294The MP would be really good if it was more refined and had online multiplayer.
>>736454994True but why flipflop?Taking whatever voices they could get I guess
>>736437294Look, if it's not titled F-Zero or Super Monkey Ball, you can safely skip any GC game.
>>736447564I'm willing to agree that Prime is overrated (not bad), but there's no way you aren't baiting with the rest. Rogue Squadron is frustrating, I guess. Luigi's Mansion's only "flaw" is how short the game is (meaningless when no one is purchasing the game anymore). And I guess you can hate Super Monkey Ball 2...if you hate Super Monkey Ball as a series.
>>736455239There’s a bunch of unused/beta dialogue in Assault where some of the characters (I believe Krystal being one) have completely different tones and line reads. There had to have been some weird circumstances behind the scenes where they needed to do some new takes and that’s when the voice for Wolf got swapped.
>>736455275Incorrect
>>736437294Actually good. Great for multiplayer.
>>736452585>SFAssault>Metroid Prime 2Top tier multiplayer modes.
>>736455284Luigi's Mansion was incredibly fucking boring, awkward controls, and the constant backtracking got old fast, I like Monkey Ball 1, but 2's levels were way too gimmicky, and Rogue Squadron 2 was just too cinematic and kinda boring compared to the arcadey design of the N64 oneI can see why people would like those three games, the only one there that is completely irredeemable is Metroid Prime
The game was built around the multiplayer, which was fucking amazing. They built the single player out of what they made for the multiplayer and it suffered for that. With more time to refund the campaign it would have been amazing. The end result is just okay, but good in terms of Star Fox games.
>>736437294Haven't played it since I was a kid but I remember singleplayer being okay, not great but far from bad. Multiplayer was basically E rated Halo that shit ruled
Let's not forget that they recorded the entire soundtrack with an actual orchestra, which was NOT a given on those days and a first for Star Fox.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dWtJplgXe6I
>>736455972Thank fuck this is already on PC sex mods and mods to mod my fursona into the game when?
>>736453327Interesting, I always liked Corneria (mostly because "ally loses control and you have to kill them" is a kino trope) and hated the Orbital Gate since you're just flying in circles waiting for the gay missiles to spawn in.I remember the final Aparoid level being cool but I'd always get fucked up by the obstacles since it was hard to gauge depth and time your boosts rightSex with --Fay--
Things that Snoys have been forced to worship in order to force concern and get people to turn on Nintendo and the Switch:>The GameCube>The old Donkey Kong games>Ocarina of Time>pre-BoTW Zelda games>Iwata>Reggie>The Wii U>Super Smash Bros. Melee>Mario Kart 8>Metroid Prime 1-3>BombermanLooking forward to them suddenly praising New Horizons and Smash Ultimate all of sudden.
>My copy was glitched and the cornerian army didnt say their lines in the opening scene when starfox showed upAlways made me chuckle
>>736437294Played this as a kid back when it came out, hated the onfoot segments but liked everything else, even the story. I'm a lot more critical of its flaws nowadays but the devs definitely tried and partially succeeded in making a true sequel to Starfox 64. This game did something Shigeru couldn't.
>>736452754Switch is better.
>>736437294Really good but insanely short, even SF64 which you finish a playthrough in under an hour had more to do because of the branching paths and Mission Clears vs Accomplished conditions
>>736437294Star fox thread
>>736455972Don't ever talk to me, tranny.
>>736437294It's good. There's not nearly as much replay value as 64 since there's only 10 missions you do in the same order every game, but it's a fun time once or twice a year. I still probably enjoy it more than 64 because I like having shit to do and being able to explore the stages instead of just traveling down a straight corridor or flying in circles over flat, featureless plains. It's fun to replay stages to get good at the combo system and earn a bonus for clearing it quick.
>>736459161
It's a Starfox game that really wants to pad the fun Starfox stuff out with bullshit you don't want to do. It's the same problem that has been cursing the series since 64.
>>736437294oh god you just reminded me of how i would plug in another controller and repeatedly solo play multiplayer matches to unlock all of the maps just to never actually play them with anyone
>>736438971I don't see how it's better than Zero.
Honestly some of the most fun multiplayer on the Gamecube. You haven't lived until you sniped someone from across the map while riding on the wing your friend's Arwing.
>>736459693>game has multiplayer mode with a lot of shit, clearly not just a barebones afterthought>no botsSame thing with Prime 2. Forget shit like Timesplitters 2, even other first party titles like Melee had CPUs, so idk what the fuck they were thinking not including 'em.
All the hate for this game is either astroturfed or nugamer zoomies that it didn't age well to. It's multiplayer was never really spoken about "back in the day" because everyone then was playing halo 2, 3, Cod or literally dozens of other microsoft golden age games which it could never have competed with. You could literally only have fun with it with the friends who also grew up playing 64 and liked if for a solid attempt at giving them better multiplayer than that. You played this when your slow friend couldn't sweat enough to lube the control sticks for smash basically. And if you tried saying it was better than any of those other games you were (rightfully) called a faggot.
>>736459692It's a Starfox game that really wants to pad the gaping wound and slow the bleeding from the last shot he took at it.
>>736459993>You haven't lived until you sniped someone from across the map while riding on the wing your friend's Arwing.I did this but on Prime 2's>Game is even>3 out of 4 players is about to win>Get killed>Spawn in the other side of the map>Rush the fuck out in ball mode trying to join the final skirmish>enter the room>Shoot a missile to the other 3 players blasting each other>Screen fades to white>Win the game with a 2 point lead>tfw of all of us
>>736460369Kino. I never played Prime 2 until way later so I never really messed with the multiplayer. Maybe like once at one of my older brother's house who actually had it.I did play the fuck out of Hunters online though.
>>736460430MP2 was surprisingly great as a multiplayer mode goes. Rock solid it its simplicity.
Did you ever notice how the Katina mission was a movie reference, just like the Katina level from 64?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtE3ue3hBhE&t=77s
>>736460520What's this?
This game is outclassed completely by Metal Arms: Glitch in The System
>>736459693>>736460004I unlocked the wolfen and my faggot friend wouldn't pick the game up after somehow failing the first fucking level. "Waaaah arwing to floaty it's not like 64". It was literally at that moment that I started to bend the knee in these fucking threads to anons being right about 64 faggot never wanting to move on or even willing to give it a chance. >>736460430you know they might have actually had something with prime 4 if they somehow made another hunters like multiplayer. Everyone I know who played it loved it, it was Nintendo's Halo basically. Yeah it could be cheesed, people cheated and some hunters were broken as fuck but it was still fun and the variety of shit you could do/healthpool and alt mode and hunter weapon abilities evened the playing fields. Like why the fuck not? Do they not want another competitive scene like smash?
>>736460725Mario x Fox propaganda (and it's working)
>>736437294Needed more Arwing and less on-foot segments.Multiplayer was good.
>>736461053Don't ask much from a dev hell game.
>>736461389Shut up, Falco/Wolf/Krystal
>>736460725>>736461226It's a subtle reference to the rivalry in the game world shared by the first born and the golden child. >>736461325No I don't ask for any starfox game because it's always a dev hell game. All of them, literally every single one. Oh except for the one's they rescaled and recycled ("original" 64).
>>736461583I don't think Nintendo themselves have worked on a Star Fox game exclusively since 64.
>>73643729410/10 multiplayermain game is "fine"soundtrack is amazinggame is way too short and has very little replayablity
>>736461454damn fox why does he get three spouses
>>736452754We did anon. we did.
>>736457015This Star Wolf theme STILL hasn't been beat. I rock to this song in Smash as well.
>>736461389>152cm>46kgImagine.
>>736437294It's the best Starfox since 64. Make of that whatever you will.
>>736437294Assault is mid at best. It doesn't do anything particularly well and has issues with the campaign. Multiplayer isnt the worst but it doesn't do offer anything that has it stand out among other popular shooters at the time.
>>736438872It doesn't get as much hate as it deserves to be honest.
>>736451897>Assault was rated 7-8/10 by EVERYONE at releaseWhy doesn't it have a metacritic score of 67 then?
>>736464032Only a brown person would think this
>>736461661 >since 64.>Oh except for the one's they rescaled and recycled ("original" 64).it's 1 and 2 combined and rescaled. They didn't make most of any of it which is why they didn't have a hard time lol.
>>736461053I gave assault a chance and it still sucks. You're also one to speak talking about a game over 20 years old now.
>>736464323Yeah but it was in-house at least, and they knew the leap to true 3D, voice acting, etc. was enough to justify it.Assault was all Namco, Command was handed off to Argonaut again, and Zero had Platinum.
>>736464118If assault was ao great, why dont people make more games like assault? Why are all the star fox inspired games just taking stuff from the first game and 64?
>>736459617the dude's name is literally FOX
>ao
>>736464431Command was Q games and nintendo had way more involvement with that title than either GameCube game.
>>736437294Emulated this game semi-recently. Aren't there like only two on-rails Arwing missions?
>>736461779>10/10 multiplayerIm calling bullshit. That means it has better multiplayer than all the other well known ones like halo, team fortress 2, COD, and so on. Are you willing to say star fox assault has better multiplayer than all of those?
>>736464724There are three pure on rail arwing mission, one pure all range arwinf mission
>>736464645>Command was Q games >"handed off to Argonaut again"
>>736465154Cuthbert isnt argonauts retard. Its one guy.
>>736437294It wasn't good, just okay. The multiplayer was great though even if no one played it
