When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence? Maybe before 2030? Like, imagine being capable of just typing "Create a 15 hour long game that is a crossover between Mario, Sonic and Pokemon, add hot anime girls and lots of mindblowing plot twists".
>>73644104610 years at least and for some barely playable RPG Maker tier game
Very soon. Like, this year. The Unity CEO said last month that Unity's next update will include generative AI that will allow you to generate "a full casual game" in one prompt.
>>736441046It won't shit out anything interesting. You didn't even specify the gameplay (which is telling).
>>736441046Thank fuck I'll probably be dead before the great sloppening
Ngl I used to be pro AI but every non-H instance of it I've seen has been pure slop. Now I just ignore anything with gen-AI in it. Still I hope it puts out as many artists as possible out of jobs.
>>736441046all of those are correct except for the paint slop guy
>>736441046
>>736441481(it's all indian kids on their phones)
"15 hours" isn't something you can just prompt and get right. 15 hours to a speedrunner is 40+ to a casual or 20-25 for a normal gamer. only if you tie everything in the game progress to actual time (timegates for abilities needed to progress, timed missions one after another, etc) and that kind of shit isn't fun
>>736441046The painter should be mad at photography, not film
>>736441046The bubble will burst, and to those investor fucks backing it, get fucked lol
>>736441046Definitely before 2030. But you'll be eternally vexed because 10 hour in there will be some detail that you didn't anticipate which you hate that will ruin the experience. There'll be a balance between single-sentence prompting a game and writing it and all of the asset data in assembly. It'll be like writing a book, where you're not wasting time defining word definitions and sentence structures, but you will want to spend some time telling the robot what it is you want and what is okay for it to put together itself based on what the average person expects for :element:.
>>736441481AI = actually indians
>>736441481Why opt for poop colored for your graphic like this
>>736441392Problem is people are lazy and really expect AI to do everything, without any quality control.Also, you barely learn anything using AI compared to others. A professional photographer, for example, needs to learn about lens, lightning etc.So the result is most AI products end up being bad.
>>736441481now do it per capita
>>736441046im sick of artists whining telling me my prompts dont take as much skill as their drawings. theyre just mad i can do it in seconds and they spend like a week on it lol
>>736441481Surprised Ghibli never threatened to sue Open-AI for infringing their style. Completely ruined their reputation, with their iconic style now purely associated with AI slop. Typical cucked Japanese behaviour. If this was Disney they would have demanded money and half the company.
>>736441046>AI """"artist"""" has to make shit up to prove their pointsage in the field and you should kill yourself
Two more years.
>>736441046Digital slop and AI slop are completely valid. Acting and painting have been around since the dawn of man.
>>736441576>implying AI users are capable of thoughtThey completely rely on a flawed machine to do everything for them, don't dare to ask them to do it themselves
>Monster's Inc>1995
>>736441576The date there should be 1845 or 1855. Talbottypes, the first film, was introduced to the public in 1841. Daguerreotype, the most famous photography of that time, didn't use film - it just recorded an image directly onto the photopaper. And that was introduced in 1839.Shame, AI gets it wrong again.
>>736441046It's crazy how the same threads get posted on /v/ and /pol/ at nearly the same time
>>736441873Disney shit gets slopped all the fucking time
>>736441749See this dude >>736441826 for exampleSome prompters are aware they have no ability to even edit their gens, so they generate hundreds of thousands of images and at least attempt to individually pick the ones with least errors.Bet anon doesn't even do that.
>>736442108Yeah and they got paid by Open-AI after they threatened to sue and now they ended Sora.
>>736441046nice piss filter AISlopper
>>736441136If it’s that easy to prompt a game who do you expect to pay for those prompted games?
>>736441046all the previous things were innovationsai image generation promotes laziness and is a insestuous regurgitation of an artform
>>736441046I'm just glad everyone starting called it AI slop now, bring a smile to my face.
>>736441046Never, AI is a tool like photoshop,you can use it to help with aspects but making games themselves entirely, while possibly playable will probably be predictable or not very good, hell check out how bad Chat GPT is at writing basic stories, it always does the exact same thing
>>736443301>I'm just glad everyone starting called it AI slopthis is LITERALLY just people on reddit and 4chan who say this, ive never seen a single person use it this way in real life or anywhere else, and people here have used that term so much that it has no meaning anymore, i might as well say your post is slop since its the most milk toast opinion imaginable, i can see inside of your teeth
>>736441046basic bitch mobile gimmick games? mayhapsterbeit, anything beyond that will be after they're done letting the peasants beta test and restrict ai use for anyone with less than $10m to their name.
>>736444024Mainstream media outlets are calling it slop now, too, you retarded ESL. Just because you’re terminally online doesn’t mean shit isn’t happening in the real world.
>>736441046>When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence?About a year or twoA good game? Decades, maybe centuries.
>>736441046Monsters Inc. wasn't made in 1995.
>>736441046When do you think it'll be possible for everyone to have their own personal flying car? 1930, maybe?
>>736441046Problem with AI is that no """"""games"""""" I've seen using it put any effort into generation. They just type one prompt, download the first image it makes and slap it into their game. Same with text and probably even code.
>>736441046Retarded false equivalence, implying that “art” approximated by a computer taught via biased operant conditioning is the same as the evolution of art created by humans.
Physically impossible because you don't know what you want.Game design is a skill. Playing video games doesn't mean you know how to start describing systems for the game. Knowing how to programs and design all the systems for a game doesn't mean you know how to design a game.The difference between someone like you and an indie dev, is they'll come to the reality of facing their game design issues. You get the luxury of never actually having to think about it any more than "it'll be this and that, it'll be fun and I'll enjoy it" because it's all imaginary. There's no actual merit behind it, it's not actually brainstorming.At the end of the day, if you was given unlimited money, the best programmers and artists alive and the only way you can make a game is by micromanaging them exactly in the same manner you would AI. You'd end up with nothing of note.
>>736444109oh so all those extremely wealthy people of a certain tribe think AI is bad too, its interesting that you call it slop when thats all you eat without realisingTo give the actual answer? Local use of AI is extremely cheap and useful, and some industries (such as people who writing, concept art, blender modeling, ect) are panicking and others are trying to monopolise on it, hence all those AI data centres eating up forests, i dont care, as long as it makes me laugh, which it does
>>736441046This analogy is only true in relation to photography. Photography is most fraudulent meme form of """""art""""" ever conceived. AI sloppers have more artistic value than photoniggers do.
>>736441046Can you make a good painting? What about a film? Or a digital animation? Probably not for most people.But no matter how bad you are you can ALWAYS 'make' something with AI. You need no skill, you don't even need intelligence. Just first your keyboard and click generate
>>736441046No.You could dump every picture, video, dollar, watt, and drop of water that exists into the failure machine and it will be roughly 10% better than it is now. AI is a suicide cult for retards.
>>736444024Nah people at my work call it slop even
>>736444024They might not use the word 'slop' but they will certainly call it bad in other ways
>>736441046You will not be able to impress creative intent through ai. Simply knowing a person designed something, rather than an amalgamation of samples being synthesized, is enough to make a difference. "I wonder what the lore is" won't exist because the ai painting a landscape guarantees that there is none. People hyping up the procedural generation of terrain and dialogue triggers don't understand why someone plays the games they play. Telling an ai to show examples of cubist art isn't the same as telling it to express itself using cubism.
>>736441749>Problem is people are lazy and really expect AI to do everything, without any quality control.That's not the problem, that's the whole point. If ai requires effort then it's pointless.
>>736441826>>736444024>>736444559>>736444658
>>736441046Monsters Inc came out in 2001 retard. That should be Toy Story.
>>736444553People say this but I think I'm the exception. I'm studying all the Sakurai videos, reading a bunch of RPG design docs and books, and experimenting with stuff. The main problem is that I can't show people my work for critiques and feedback because they immediately slip into AI Derangement Syndrome. Yes, I know, the slop is slop. Tell me how sloppy, objectively. And don't be a dick about it because it's AI.
>>736441873Then you'd have conservatives throwing a bitch fit over it since they were the biggest shills for all the Ghibli AI slop.Although conservatives completely missed the biggest irony of claiming film makers and animators were offiically out of work after the AI slop Lord of the Rings trailer was smeared into public. Because if they didn't have the Ghibli art style or Lord of the Rings to directly steal from, it would not exist.
>>736445265>Implying I don't look at the landscape and invent the lore based on it. And then if something is incongruent, I edit the landscape to fit.
>>736442531>defending yidsney kikes of all thingsgod I hate you faggots. you're basically siding with commies because you hate nazis
>>736441046they are all right btw
>>736447751Learn how to read you stupid nigger
>>736441136>professional con man makes claim that will boost his stock value just in time for the end of year shareholder reportWhat else is new?
>>736441046Your ugly yellow cancer will never be art, rajesh
>>736448632You realize we're still in April, right?
>>736448715Yes. Meaning last month (when he said that) was march, the end of the fiscal year.
>>736442821The tools won't be open source and they will need hardware much more powerful than anything you can afford anywayYou will pay to prompt a game that only you will play
>>736449094nta but in the US at least the fiscal year ends in September. Q2 ends on April 1st though so it'd still make sense for the Unity CEO to make shit up to make his quarterly report look good.
>>736444024I've only met 3 people that disliked AI irl and all were genuinely mentally illcoincidence? I think not
>>736449260I see. In my defense I've never actually checked when the fiscal year ends and was just parroting what I'd heard. But same difference really since it would still be in time for the quarterly report.
>>736444658you forgot performance "artists" (not the funny van darkholme kind)
>>736449260The federal government's fiscal year ends in September. The fiscal year for a given company depends on the company. For example, Gamestop's ends in February.
>banks starting to tell AI investors to fuck off and are refusing loans due to lack of return>these threads slow to a crawlInteresting
>>736449618>>736449882yeah, I was wrong. Unity seems to have chosen the calendar year as their fiscal year (starting january 1st, ending december 31st)https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2026/Unity-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Fiscal-Year-2025-Financial-Results/default.aspxbut once again, that doesn't change much. that just means that Q1 is ending in April. just wanted to get the facts right.
>>736441046i wont play AI made games with less than 2000 words in their prompts and that dont publish the prompt
>>736444658Photography still requires you to physically be present, and to adjust angle, distance, focus, framing, the flash, not to mention the subject itself, in order to capture a one-in-a-million moment that might only exist for half a second and then never again.
>>736445395Fuck, it is really that easy to make money now?I dont even have anything to eat right now
>>736444109the daily show picked up the buzzword of the month guys, AI is over.
>>736441046I'm at digital slopThe worst thing that could happen to animation
>>736449904>yeah, I was wrong.>just wanted to get the facts right.You're doing better than the vast majority of people who post here. Godspeed, anon.
>>736441046It’s been possible. As for a AAA game, it’s already *feasible* today, but the amount of content is way too big for contemporary context windows.
>>736442821If you like the game, pay for it. If you can make a better one yourself, do it.
>>736441046Google let you prompt a shitty walking simulator skinned in DS3, so your dreams are already real and here slopper.
>>736450083If you’re creative, dedicated, and consistent, then yes you can make money doing many things.
Can't even remove the yellow piss filter lol
No more than you can paint an entire picture in one brush stroke. Eventually you can probably prompt well enough and get good enough results to make a game when the tech evolves, but its like any tool and is limited to how well it is used. I don't mind the use of AI as a tool but if its used badly then its basically the same as someone who loads purchased assets into UE or Unity and follows some >Fortnite/Minecraft/Battle Royale/CoD/FotM knockoff GAME STYLE GUIDE!to shit something out
>>736444024Fucking John Oliver calls it slop on his show you retard. It's entirely mainstream.
>>736451027I dunno generative AI by it's very nature is just going to lead to comical levels of oversaturation once it gets into full swing. To the layman, it stops being "Professionals will make good use of it" to just "I don't care I'll make my own stuff" which is really funny because hyper-individual bubbles are a real problem as evidenced by Suno AI that scares the shit outta these companies because nobody makes anything to share, just soley for themselves.
>>736451327Well, the same is more or less true of things like photoshop, which also led to one off "meme makers" on websites that even didn't require photoshop knowledge etc. There will always be those who want to use things cheap and easy and that's okay, but that's not the fault of the tool as much as it is making use of cheap bullshit, I mean, when it became viable to have cheap mobile garbage games like flappy bird knockoffs and farmville stuff people did that by the thousands, even when it took some degree of knowledge. Same with asset flip garbage games on Steam or Itch; some are someone's first free or $2 game, others are some asshole calling it "Death Stronding: Simulated Walker Delivery" and trying to get people to buy it or whatever.
>>736451104>John Oliver
>>736451520We're talking about common parlance. John Oliver is a common entertainer.
>Hey I made a new game in AI>Wow my AI made the same game. But less gay.
>>736451496I don't think it's quite the same. Unity asset flips, photoshop, sure they're relatively easy to do but they still take time and some kind of effort and most importantly, limited to human effort. Generative AI has the unique problem that in the event that it fully takes off and becomes what people really want it to be it's probably inevitable that online creative spaces just become literal landfills in every sense. People will always filter out the bad shit but I imagine it'd be hard and gets expotentially harder. Like 10,000:1 then 100,000:1 and higher as time goes on.
>slop slop slop slop slop
>>736450761But that channel is none of those things THOUGH
The slop will continue until morale improves
>>736441392Same, I used to be Pro AI then I noticed the overwhelming brain drain, laziness and crippled people became and how locust like AI hit everything like a plague
>>736451678same guy was constantly seething about Trump thoughconsidering he became president two times, I have my doubts that Oliver's views represent the majority of normalfags
>>736450083They are getting paid in rupees by the way, you might want to check the exchange rates.
>>736441046>Sonic and Pokemon
>>736452078The truth is those people were always lazy.
>>736451104Seethe
>>736441392>>736441749>>736452078Warned you niggersEat your plate of shit and ask for seconds
>>736451939I wouldn’t watch it, but showing up is 90% of the journey.
>>736451327People will share once they stop getting ripped a new one just for admitting that they did something creative (CREATIVE) with AI.>Anyone could prompt this>But they didn't>I did.
>>736441046Hopefully VN generation will be a thing soon. I just want a short story of a talking dog getting molested by a TSA agent.
>>736451904crazy how a normal 4chan-term got raped by literal reatrds so badlywordslop, some might say
Normal I'm pessimistic about these timelines, but it's already possible to create 2D game with a simple prompt, win condition/death condition, etc.So like, 5 years/
>>736441046Literally retarded analogy.
>>736451904Slop slop slop slop slop slop
>>736452358People already share. People can't be stopped from sharing. The internet overflows from infinite indians creating infinite garbage.
>>736441046>leftists opposing progress againAnd I thought nuclear energy hate was dumb, holy shit.
>>736452296Ai had always existed in video gamesI supported that actual AI that led to the increase of enemy complexity and gameplay diversity, advanced physics of the levels of scientific and creativity with TECHNOLOGY, not generative image slop. We are not the same.
>>736452404hownew.ruthis place was always upstream of internet culture.
>>736452358They will share but not as much as you think they would. Again, Suno have admitted to the problem that almost nobody shares their songs made on the platform because the issue is fundamental. You could gen a truly great game and share it online but as someone else with the same tools, why would I feel compelled to play yours when I can just make my own? Or hell, I can just take yours and tweak it to my liking. And I guess you can technically call that sharing but it's not really the same in spirit.
>>736441046>When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence?Right now>Like, imagine being capable of just typing "Create a 15 hour long game that is a crossover between Mario, Sonic and Pokemon, add hot anime girls and lots of mindblowing plot twists"A key problem is you needed mario, sonic, pokemon, hot anime girls, and mindblowing plot twists to have been created and trained into the AI beforehand.It both will oversaturate everything with mass amounts of slop focused on scraping decreasing mounts of money, and in turn promote stagnation which in turn promotes you also eventually never getting anything new.
>>736452535Ok jeetoid, nice proompt post
>>736441826Typing in words for prompts absolutely takes less skill than actually being able to draw.
>>736452538yes, it's still weird seeing dangerhairs use it since it was originally kinda making fun of jews
>>736451885AI projects take effort. The systems don't understand your requests half the time or give you a sloppy output that you then have to correct.> Generative AI has the unique problem that in the event that it fully takes off and becomes what people really want it to be it's probably inevitable that online creative spaces just become literal landfills in every senseThat's Furaffinity and the problem was already solved there. Everyone just navigates in their little community by hopping from person to person. You never, ever go to the frontpage unless you want your retinas burned off. Straight to your inbox, look at the favorites of people who have similar tastes to you, +watch when they post some choice inflation art, -watch when they post diaper art.
>>736442134Love the look of old warships where it's just like a big steel canoe with an ant hill of towers and guns piled on top.
>>736452078You sound Indian and hired.
>>736452607I accept your concession
Normalfags use the word slop now
>>736452710No, that isn't furaffinity. Children uploading amateur art have nothing on the ease of AI. One schizo autist can generate thousands of garbage images in a day and upload them.
>>7364410461995er here. No one complained about "digital slop". People were keen for it. The analog obsession came later, mostly from people that didn't experience it.
>>736452779You sound broke and barely passing for white
>>736452590>why would I feel compelled to play yours when I can just make my own? Because I found out that you have good taste and want to connect with you or your ideas, and it saves me the trouble of making shit myself, which even in a "frictionless" environment will still involve the unknown factor inherent in "this has never been played by a human being before."
>>736445304Using a chainsaw requires considerably less physical effort than using an axe, but it's still hard work. Does that make chainsaws useless?
>>736452134>constantly seething about TrumpThis describes about a third of the USA population.>>736441046Probably never. A true AI smart enough to make a game would still need more instructions than that to make an actually good game and all we currently have are chat bots.
>>736452836And if you don't watch them, you never see it.
>>736452923A chainsaw is tangible and created through actual physical work and human consensus. This is a false equivalency
>>736442134AI could never do this (because it goes against inclusivity guidelines)
>>736441046You can already do that now. It's not going to be much longer. I give it 2-3 years.
>>736452879Oh nooooo jeet's got jokes.Didn't deny it, though.
>>736441046AI can't make the simplest of games today. I had dreams of making a few thousand by making a card game I could sell on Steam. I just needed something new to wow the plebs with. I asked AI to come up with the rules to a new card game. It gave me the rules to a card game. One that was unplayable. A machine can't invent.
>>736446717Make it then. If its actually good people will play it.
>>736452997Except you do, and you will. Across all content aggregate sites, AI generated content is flooding them. More and more of a limited content space is being taken up by an unlimited tap of worthless garbage, so even if I manage to filter everything successfully including managing to filter the AI-sloppers that are trying to filter-evade, the site is still going to suffer for AIs inclusion.
>>736442074It's almost like /v/ is /pol/'s toilet
>>736442821You can't prompt the marketing.Yes, you can set up AI Agents to do it, but we're new to that topic.
>>736453050Don't need to deny anything to a projector.You have better jokes than me, you are a loving embodiment of one.
>>736452710I don't think you quite understand what it means to be a digital landfill. I'm taking about literal server space, videos and images are one thing but games can be rather large in their filesizes. Giving the average idiot the complete freedom to make his epic skyrim steampunk RPG game or whatever is probably going to be a fairly big game, having millions of people prompting similar grandiose nonsense is just going to lead to a crisis.>>736452920>Because I found out that you have good taste and want to connect with you or your ideasThis doesn't happen, not in the AI space. I think the old DALL-E threads are a good example of people just not engaging with each other on a creative level. Of course, unless you think "connecting with other's ideas" means asking for their prompts.
>>736441046Im starting to hear very often about that Big Reset Event that happens when humanity does something so stupid that activates some kind of cataclismic event, wiping most of us out of existence.And now with all this stupid shit in the world, I really hope that is true.
>>736453038Did you forget that a computer is a physical machine?
>>736441046good morning sars, AI is the future, thanks for do the needful
>>736453461Yeah and software is physical, ya fucking retard.
>>736453078Still waiting for AI to get good enough. It's not there yet.
>Want to create something>Relying on an approximation of your vision instead of working your way to the visionNo different than offloading the process to other people, where you have to sacrifice some of the "vision" to be practical. Anyone who says they will make their dream game/tv show/animation etc. with no compromise are delusional as fuck.
>>736453086Under the furry model, if you /don't watch the people posting or liking AI slop/, you /will not see AI slop/. This is not difficult to understand.
>>736453717You can at least instruct other people successfully on each part of their own creative process. AI's creative process is a black box.
>>736453153If I'm the comedian, are you the drama queen? (No need to answer that, it's rhetorical.)Keep farming that izzat.
>>736453757If you like some tags, AI sloppers will evade filters to try to get their shit seen. If you like some artists, AI sloppers will flood their tags with prompted garbage. AI isn't a tool for expression right now, it's a tool to try to get money for no effort.
>>736441046Monsters Inc came out in 2001, not 1995.
>>736441176Which is different from most games how?
>>736453614It is.
>>7364528651989 here. There absolutely were compliants when digital cg animation pushed out traditional 2D for films.
>>736441046We’re literally running out of the resources required to keep this shit running. One of the reasons why Sora was shut down was because of high operating costs and resource consumption. If we had unlimited resources and money, “prompting an entire game” could MAYBE be feasible in the 2100s. But this is not sustainable. The AI bubble will be the cause of the next Great Depression. A few hundred thousand people will die in political violence, (in america at least) and then things will return relatively back to normal. Screencap this.
>>736442074/vpol/ babee
>>736453886>AI isn't a tool for expression right now, it's a tool to try to get money for no effort.Correct, when low effort money comes into play is when you start getting things like jeet tides, scammers, and retards.AI generation is a interesting tool, but its allowing everything to get overwhelmed, and a guy masturbating to some generated porn pictures isn't worth being hassled by a few hundred thousand jeets trying to sell their "art"
>>736453160>I don't think you quite understand what it means to be a digital landfill. I'm taking about literal server space, videos and images are one thing but games can be rather large in their filesizes. Giving the average idiot the complete freedom to make his epic skyrim steampunk RPG game or whatever is probably going to be a fairly big game, having millions of people prompting similar grandiose nonsense is just going to lead to a crisis.The question isn't if platform moderation will be able to keep up with resource issues, it's whether you, as a user, will have to wade through the slop pile yourself. Will you have a degraded experience? Maybe. But you won't necessarily see why, which is half the battle won from the outset.FA would have emptied out of decent artists years ago if their fans had to deal with a deluge of niche fetishes that they don't subscribe to. But they don't, so the site remains useful. And, I'm telling you, this is the model. I know it's anathema to a site built on anonymity, but that's where normies are headed.>This doesn't happen, not in the AI space.I follow particular Twitter users specifically for the reason I stated.>I think the old DALL-E threads are a good example of people just not engaging with each other on a creative level4chan art generals are not representative of how the rest of the web works. Except in very rare circumstances, I don't want to know who you are and you don't want to know who I am. On twittersky, the first thing I'm doing if you post something neat is going into your media tab to see if there's more.
>>736452920You are being naive. 99% of the human population will not bother interacting with the creations of another humans tastes when they have the option to make something based around their own.
>>736453843No the comedian would be your mother, retard.You call me an Indian but you can't even come to conclusions correctly and you are more knowledgeable about Indians than I am.Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?
>>736453717Compromise is conserved and is a function of the size of the project, no matter the means by which production takes place.But I'm okay with that. I'm not charismatic enough to get people to make something approximating the shit I want to make, so I'll got to the bots.
>>736453764People are black boxes, anon.
>>736453717>approximation of your vision Nonsense. Only an issue if you are shit at expressing yourself. If you have a character in your head and cant dictate someone else to replicate what you see in your minds eye, then you clearly dont even have the character fully formed in your own mind.
imagine being able to just insta prompt interactive porn. I have read too much scifi where VR environments are free, think something like Diaspora. Society and relationships are in for one hell of a reckoning
>>736454191>No the comedian would be your mother, retard.Out of jokes, I see.>You call me an Indian but you can't even come to conclusions correctly and you are more knowledgeable about Indians than I am.>Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?
>>736454167>99% of the human population will not bother interacting with the creations of another humans tastes when they have the option to make something based around their own.99% of the human population doesn't even know what they concisely want, its there is the saying to sell people something they didn't know they wanted when it comes to both breaking ground and reaping giant profit
>>736454191>Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?>asking that question on 4chan out of all fucking places
>>736454370Yes and no, depends entirely on what your final vision is and how you would want it to be presented. There are some ideas throughout history that would be hard to describe down to each intricate detail, and can only come from the artist that made it (Or at least someone with a similar mindset).
>>736441046>create a derivative gooner gameClassic jeet AI slopper
>>736453886>AI sloppers will flood their tags with prompted garbage.>tagsUnless they take over my dude's account, they aren't flooding shit.
>>736454323People are concealed mechanisms but I can exert far more control over each step of the creative process through them.
>>736454524If you're intrinsically only limiting yourself to a handful of artists, then yeah. I just hope you never decide to look elsewhere for similar things.
>>736441136@Grok generate me a roguelike game with lots of really fun feedback indicators similar to chapter 1 fortnite damage numbers, slay the spire glows and subtle stars, make sure it utilizes deep detailed lore similar to caves of qud, make sure it retains a "Valve" polish and design
>>736453886people keep saying this but blacklisting "AI generated" is enough from my personal experience
>>736454538I'm not you.
>>736441046Lil' bro this shit is in freefall, OpenAI is dead, Anthropic is dying, Microslop is desperately trying to save the sinking ship by going back on AI etc., we've been telling you for years that this was yet another grift that would go nowhere as the set goals were beyond ridiculous and you still haven't learned anything.
>>736454614I doubt your personal experience.
>>736454682>meanwhile /g/ is losing their shit over gemma 4
>>736454579Again, you're island-hopping from one person to another. Eventually, you'll find a node in the network that leads you to a different branch. This is slightly dangerous, but less so than divebombing a random node.Now, if you start to consider that some nodes will be AI agents themselves, designed to funnel you to cognitohazards, THAT is maybe a harder issue to solve. But you're not being strapped to a firehose of slop; you're opening a door, and if something in the other room smells, you just close it.
>>736454682The AI bubble is like the dot com bubble. reasonable shit will survive. the speculative shit will die.
>>7364544364chan was created to discuss what they loved, I don't know who told you differently.Just because you fell for the Internet hate machine like every one else did, doesn't mean that is how it started
>>736441136>UnityGood to know I should further avoid anything that has that shit engine label slapped on it.Speaking of which:>>736441119>RPG MakerRemember when RPGM Unity was supposed to be a thing before the former EA CEO blew up the brand to where RPGM's devs backed out of it?
>>736454682Even if there is a bubble and even if it bursts in totally two more weeks, anyone who thinks ai is going to go away or stop progressing is utterly delusional.
>>736454817As previously outlined, the site is exposed to the firehose of slop, and is being tangibly damaged by it. This hyper-conservative approach to the site, however, might minimize damage to you yourself.
>>736454827The only reasonable shit is medicine which if AI *only* shrunk into the realm of medicine that would probably be for the best
>>736441046KEK. Good one.
>>736454937I think it'll progress as the things it's actually good at and not in the direction you yourself want it to. In other words, I'll stop paying attention to the new data sorting tech, and you'll despair.
>>736455024trvke
>>736454008>comparing ai jeetslop to Toy StoryPoser 3D spam would be a more apt comparison
>>736454430You don't get it.Let me explain, you are the joke, comedians conceive jokes, it's not that hard to figure the line of reasoning
>>736454952>and is being tangibly damaged by it.I acknowledged that, and pointed out that the only way users would know would be indirectly.
>>736441481Lmao
>>736454835>4chan was created to discuss what they loved, I don't know who told you differently.yes, because we all know how mascots like /v/-tan just ooze positivityall the shitflinging was totally ironic guys I swear
>>736455273Most users do not operate on such a conservative content methodology.
>>736454827Pretty much the only things that will survive out of this dumpster fire are>Some select applications in the medical/engineering fields that have proven to actually have a market and tangible applications>Some select tech for image editing and obviously porn>Data collecting stuff even if Palantir is next on the chopping block>Maybe some sort of local copilot shit for desktops but heavily restrained.Everything else is dead in the waters and the massive backlash this entire speculative shitshow garnered guarantees that entire research fields will either die or be reduced to tiny niches driven by small open source communities.The dozens of grifts like OP's idea of creating games from prompts will be a distant, unpleasant dream we'll look back in embarrassment.
>>736441046Even if the AI is perfect, "prompting" leaves a shitload of gaps, and it will fill the gaps with the most generic shit imaginable.To give you an example, this picture was "prompted" so to speak.Limited time to work on it and a vague description of how it should look like.There was just not enough data to get to the desired final art.Prompting an entire game in one go will lead to the same result because you don't actually know what you want, and when developing a game on the normal way you end up finding what you actually want while you iteract.I can see a very, very long "chat section" with a very advanced LLM making a good game, but not a single line of text.
>>736454937midwits see jensen talk about how AGI is going to pop out of the screen and give you 1 million dollars and immediately jump into the complete opposite direction, i.e it's useless, no one likes it and any evidence proving them wrong is fake
>>736441873What shits me off is that it isn't even the Ghibli style half the time.>>736455382The site in general was though, remember it was moot... "copying" 2ch and making an anime image board for him to discuss anime with his fellow weebs. It evolved but saying it wasn't created out of love is stupid.
>>736455251Oh, no, I get it. You were instructed to vehemently deny and attack anyone who caught on that you're a paid shill.I don't take your jibing personally, but please be aware that it's quite embarrassing (for you).
>>736441136>millions of untested ai generated "games" just slopped out buckshot style by turd worlders onto digital spaces without any quality controlgee golly>inb4 ludditeThe problem with AI isn't its existence, it's the users who celebrate mediocrity.
>>736455526what are you even talking about
>>736455392It's baked into the site design.
>>736455395Decent fanfic but maybe goes a bit too far into wishful thinking.
>>736455526Who the fuck is paying people to dislike AI, anon. Who? Point the finger. Show me a corporation that isn't excited to use AI to undercut workers.
>>736441046Do you think the game you've described would be good, or are you only imagining it would be good?
>>736441136>aquajeet
The whole AI era is interesting from a societal standpoint, where the elites are so sure of their position that they openly admit they are playing with funny money while sucking up resources for a project that *might* eventuate and solidify their position more while they control the bread and circuses.
>>736455642None of that is a fanfic, it's the most realistic and impartial scenario, the tech is a dead end and is neither physically nor commercially viable.
>>736455558>ESLSeems like a "you" problem.
>>736455672Indians threatened by competition.
>>736455751There was nothing grammatically wrong but the missing punctuation in my sentence.Since we have moved on to you being a grammar nazi, therefore conceding, you have lost.Drink your prune juice, gramps.
>>736455507>The site in general was though, remember it was moot... "copying" 2ch and making an anime image board for him to discuss anime with his fellow weebs.I.e three people right after the site was created.Claiming 4chan wasa place of positivity and friendly discussion for the majority of it's time and userbase is a straight-up lie.
>>736441046My favourite anectode is that there's a marked decrease in the quality of artefacts in archeological sites following the advent of copper tools. The first thing humans will do when a new tool comes out is use it to cut corners, reaching the point where people can actually make proper use of the tool takes a lot longer.
>>736455478Whatever helps you cope your boat at night. Keep burying your head in the sand, surely that will make it disappear.
>>736455382>v-tanyep, I knew it.You never knew where the "rage" and "hate" came from, I mean who could you? You never got it.
>barely literate lumpens typing prompts from their sofas=>the decades' of training required for painting / photography / film-making
>>736455794Indians literally love it more than anyone else. We are firing local workers and hiring more and more indians even in the AI "Restructuring". Infinite third worlders benefit more than you or I.
Never, because AI in its current form is prohibitively expensive and nobody's going to spend $30+ a month for your AI no matter how good it is. The reason that AI slop flooded the Internet is you could generate whatever bullshit you want from your phone for free, but as soon as you introduce a charge it's going to be impossible to keep the servers running with how few people want to pay for it. AI is going to be exclusively used at an enterprise level for coding (Claude) and really convincing AI marketing materials, but there's no universe where the average person is going to have enough money to afford the AI that generates whole movies or games.
