When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence? Maybe before 2030? Like, imagine being capable of just typing "Create a 15 hour long game that is a crossover between Mario, Sonic and Pokemon, add hot anime girls and lots of mindblowing plot twists".
>>73644104610 years at least and for some barely playable RPG Maker tier game
Very soon. Like, this year. The Unity CEO said last month that Unity's next update will include generative AI that will allow you to generate "a full casual game" in one prompt.
>>736441046It won't shit out anything interesting. You didn't even specify the gameplay (which is telling).
>>736441046Thank fuck I'll probably be dead before the great sloppening
Ngl I used to be pro AI but every non-H instance of it I've seen has been pure slop. Now I just ignore anything with gen-AI in it. Still I hope it puts out as many artists as possible out of jobs.
>>736441046all of those are correct except for the paint slop guy
>>736441046
>>736441481(it's all indian kids on their phones)
"15 hours" isn't something you can just prompt and get right. 15 hours to a speedrunner is 40+ to a casual or 20-25 for a normal gamer. only if you tie everything in the game progress to actual time (timegates for abilities needed to progress, timed missions one after another, etc) and that kind of shit isn't fun
>>736441046The painter should be mad at photography, not film
>>736441046The bubble will burst, and to those investor fucks backing it, get fucked lol
>>736441046Definitely before 2030. But you'll be eternally vexed because 10 hour in there will be some detail that you didn't anticipate which you hate that will ruin the experience. There'll be a balance between single-sentence prompting a game and writing it and all of the asset data in assembly. It'll be like writing a book, where you're not wasting time defining word definitions and sentence structures, but you will want to spend some time telling the robot what it is you want and what is okay for it to put together itself based on what the average person expects for :element:.
>>736441481AI = actually indians
>>736441481Why opt for poop colored for your graphic like this
>>736441392Problem is people are lazy and really expect AI to do everything, without any quality control.Also, you barely learn anything using AI compared to others. A professional photographer, for example, needs to learn about lens, lightning etc.So the result is most AI products end up being bad.
>>736441481now do it per capita
>>736441046im sick of artists whining telling me my prompts dont take as much skill as their drawings. theyre just mad i can do it in seconds and they spend like a week on it lol
>>736441481Surprised Ghibli never threatened to sue Open-AI for infringing their style. Completely ruined their reputation, with their iconic style now purely associated with AI slop. Typical cucked Japanese behaviour. If this was Disney they would have demanded money and half the company.
>>736441046>AI """"artist"""" has to make shit up to prove their pointsage in the field and you should kill yourself
Two more years.
>>736441046Digital slop and AI slop are completely valid. Acting and painting have been around since the dawn of man.
>>736441576>implying AI users are capable of thoughtThey completely rely on a flawed machine to do everything for them, don't dare to ask them to do it themselves
>Monster's Inc>1995
>>736441576The date there should be 1845 or 1855. Talbottypes, the first film, was introduced to the public in 1841. Daguerreotype, the most famous photography of that time, didn't use film - it just recorded an image directly onto the photopaper. And that was introduced in 1839.Shame, AI gets it wrong again.
>>736441046It's crazy how the same threads get posted on /v/ and /pol/ at nearly the same time
>>736441873Disney shit gets slopped all the fucking time
>>736441749See this dude >>736441826 for exampleSome prompters are aware they have no ability to even edit their gens, so they generate hundreds of thousands of images and at least attempt to individually pick the ones with least errors.Bet anon doesn't even do that.
>>736442108Yeah and they got paid by Open-AI after they threatened to sue and now they ended Sora.
>>736441046nice piss filter AISlopper
>>736441136If it’s that easy to prompt a game who do you expect to pay for those prompted games?
>>736441046all the previous things were innovationsai image generation promotes laziness and is a insestuous regurgitation of an artform
>>736441046I'm just glad everyone starting called it AI slop now, bring a smile to my face.
>>736441046Never, AI is a tool like photoshop,you can use it to help with aspects but making games themselves entirely, while possibly playable will probably be predictable or not very good, hell check out how bad Chat GPT is at writing basic stories, it always does the exact same thing
>>736443301>I'm just glad everyone starting called it AI slopthis is LITERALLY just people on reddit and 4chan who say this, ive never seen a single person use it this way in real life or anywhere else, and people here have used that term so much that it has no meaning anymore, i might as well say your post is slop since its the most milk toast opinion imaginable, i can see inside of your teeth
>>736441046basic bitch mobile gimmick games? mayhapsterbeit, anything beyond that will be after they're done letting the peasants beta test and restrict ai use for anyone with less than $10m to their name.
>>736444024Mainstream media outlets are calling it slop now, too, you retarded ESL. Just because you’re terminally online doesn’t mean shit isn’t happening in the real world.
>>736441046>When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence?About a year or twoA good game? Decades, maybe centuries.
>>736441046Monsters Inc. wasn't made in 1995.
>>736441046When do you think it'll be possible for everyone to have their own personal flying car? 1930, maybe?
>>736441046Problem with AI is that no """"""games"""""" I've seen using it put any effort into generation. They just type one prompt, download the first image it makes and slap it into their game. Same with text and probably even code.
>>736441046Retarded false equivalence, implying that “art” approximated by a computer taught via biased operant conditioning is the same as the evolution of art created by humans.
Physically impossible because you don't know what you want.Game design is a skill. Playing video games doesn't mean you know how to start describing systems for the game. Knowing how to programs and design all the systems for a game doesn't mean you know how to design a game.The difference between someone like you and an indie dev, is they'll come to the reality of facing their game design issues. You get the luxury of never actually having to think about it any more than "it'll be this and that, it'll be fun and I'll enjoy it" because it's all imaginary. There's no actual merit behind it, it's not actually brainstorming.At the end of the day, if you was given unlimited money, the best programmers and artists alive and the only way you can make a game is by micromanaging them exactly in the same manner you would AI. You'd end up with nothing of note.
>>736444109oh so all those extremely wealthy people of a certain tribe think AI is bad too, its interesting that you call it slop when thats all you eat without realisingTo give the actual answer? Local use of AI is extremely cheap and useful, and some industries (such as people who writing, concept art, blender modeling, ect) are panicking and others are trying to monopolise on it, hence all those AI data centres eating up forests, i dont care, as long as it makes me laugh, which it does
>>736441046This analogy is only true in relation to photography. Photography is most fraudulent meme form of """""art""""" ever conceived. AI sloppers have more artistic value than photoniggers do.
>>736441046Can you make a good painting? What about a film? Or a digital animation? Probably not for most people.But no matter how bad you are you can ALWAYS 'make' something with AI. You need no skill, you don't even need intelligence. Just first your keyboard and click generate
>>736441046No.You could dump every picture, video, dollar, watt, and drop of water that exists into the failure machine and it will be roughly 10% better than it is now. AI is a suicide cult for retards.
>>736444024Nah people at my work call it slop even
>>736444024They might not use the word 'slop' but they will certainly call it bad in other ways
>>736441046You will not be able to impress creative intent through ai. Simply knowing a person designed something, rather than an amalgamation of samples being synthesized, is enough to make a difference. "I wonder what the lore is" won't exist because the ai painting a landscape guarantees that there is none. People hyping up the procedural generation of terrain and dialogue triggers don't understand why someone plays the games they play. Telling an ai to show examples of cubist art isn't the same as telling it to express itself using cubism.
>>736441749>Problem is people are lazy and really expect AI to do everything, without any quality control.That's not the problem, that's the whole point. If ai requires effort then it's pointless.
>>736441826>>736444024>>736444559>>736444658
>>736441046Monsters Inc came out in 2001 retard. That should be Toy Story.
>>736444553People say this but I think I'm the exception. I'm studying all the Sakurai videos, reading a bunch of RPG design docs and books, and experimenting with stuff. The main problem is that I can't show people my work for critiques and feedback because they immediately slip into AI Derangement Syndrome. Yes, I know, the slop is slop. Tell me how sloppy, objectively. And don't be a dick about it because it's AI.
>>736441873Then you'd have conservatives throwing a bitch fit over it since they were the biggest shills for all the Ghibli AI slop.Although conservatives completely missed the biggest irony of claiming film makers and animators were offiically out of work after the AI slop Lord of the Rings trailer was smeared into public. Because if they didn't have the Ghibli art style or Lord of the Rings to directly steal from, it would not exist.
>>736445265>Implying I don't look at the landscape and invent the lore based on it. And then if something is incongruent, I edit the landscape to fit.
>>736442531>defending yidsney kikes of all thingsgod I hate you faggots. you're basically siding with commies because you hate nazis
>>736441046they are all right btw
>>736447751Learn how to read you stupid nigger
>>736441136>professional con man makes claim that will boost his stock value just in time for the end of year shareholder reportWhat else is new?
>>736441046Your ugly yellow cancer will never be art, rajesh
>>736448632You realize we're still in April, right?
>>736448715Yes. Meaning last month (when he said that) was march, the end of the fiscal year.
>>736442821The tools won't be open source and they will need hardware much more powerful than anything you can afford anywayYou will pay to prompt a game that only you will play
>>736449094nta but in the US at least the fiscal year ends in September. Q2 ends on April 1st though so it'd still make sense for the Unity CEO to make shit up to make his quarterly report look good.
>>736444024I've only met 3 people that disliked AI irl and all were genuinely mentally illcoincidence? I think not
>>736449260I see. In my defense I've never actually checked when the fiscal year ends and was just parroting what I'd heard. But same difference really since it would still be in time for the quarterly report.
>>736444658you forgot performance "artists" (not the funny van darkholme kind)
>>736449260The federal government's fiscal year ends in September. The fiscal year for a given company depends on the company. For example, Gamestop's ends in February.
>banks starting to tell AI investors to fuck off and are refusing loans due to lack of return>these threads slow to a crawlInteresting
>>736449618>>736449882yeah, I was wrong. Unity seems to have chosen the calendar year as their fiscal year (starting january 1st, ending december 31st)https://investors.unity.com/news/news-details/2026/Unity-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Fiscal-Year-2025-Financial-Results/default.aspxbut once again, that doesn't change much. that just means that Q1 is ending in April. just wanted to get the facts right.
>>736441046i wont play AI made games with less than 2000 words in their prompts and that dont publish the prompt
>>736444658Photography still requires you to physically be present, and to adjust angle, distance, focus, framing, the flash, not to mention the subject itself, in order to capture a one-in-a-million moment that might only exist for half a second and then never again.
>>736445395Fuck, it is really that easy to make money now?I dont even have anything to eat right now
>>736444109the daily show picked up the buzzword of the month guys, AI is over.
>>736441046I'm at digital slopThe worst thing that could happen to animation
>>736449904>yeah, I was wrong.>just wanted to get the facts right.You're doing better than the vast majority of people who post here. Godspeed, anon.
>>736441046It’s been possible. As for a AAA game, it’s already *feasible* today, but the amount of content is way too big for contemporary context windows.
>>736442821If you like the game, pay for it. If you can make a better one yourself, do it.
>>736441046Google let you prompt a shitty walking simulator skinned in DS3, so your dreams are already real and here slopper.
>>736450083If you’re creative, dedicated, and consistent, then yes you can make money doing many things.
Can't even remove the yellow piss filter lol
No more than you can paint an entire picture in one brush stroke. Eventually you can probably prompt well enough and get good enough results to make a game when the tech evolves, but its like any tool and is limited to how well it is used. I don't mind the use of AI as a tool but if its used badly then its basically the same as someone who loads purchased assets into UE or Unity and follows some >Fortnite/Minecraft/Battle Royale/CoD/FotM knockoff GAME STYLE GUIDE!to shit something out
>>736444024Fucking John Oliver calls it slop on his show you retard. It's entirely mainstream.
>>736451027I dunno generative AI by it's very nature is just going to lead to comical levels of oversaturation once it gets into full swing. To the layman, it stops being "Professionals will make good use of it" to just "I don't care I'll make my own stuff" which is really funny because hyper-individual bubbles are a real problem as evidenced by Suno AI that scares the shit outta these companies because nobody makes anything to share, just soley for themselves.
>>736451327Well, the same is more or less true of things like photoshop, which also led to one off "meme makers" on websites that even didn't require photoshop knowledge etc. There will always be those who want to use things cheap and easy and that's okay, but that's not the fault of the tool as much as it is making use of cheap bullshit, I mean, when it became viable to have cheap mobile garbage games like flappy bird knockoffs and farmville stuff people did that by the thousands, even when it took some degree of knowledge. Same with asset flip garbage games on Steam or Itch; some are someone's first free or $2 game, others are some asshole calling it "Death Stronding: Simulated Walker Delivery" and trying to get people to buy it or whatever.
>>736451104>John Oliver
>>736451520We're talking about common parlance. John Oliver is a common entertainer.
>Hey I made a new game in AI>Wow my AI made the same game. But less gay.
>>736451496I don't think it's quite the same. Unity asset flips, photoshop, sure they're relatively easy to do but they still take time and some kind of effort and most importantly, limited to human effort. Generative AI has the unique problem that in the event that it fully takes off and becomes what people really want it to be it's probably inevitable that online creative spaces just become literal landfills in every sense. People will always filter out the bad shit but I imagine it'd be hard and gets expotentially harder. Like 10,000:1 then 100,000:1 and higher as time goes on.
>slop slop slop slop slop
>>736450761But that channel is none of those things THOUGH
The slop will continue until morale improves
>>736441392Same, I used to be Pro AI then I noticed the overwhelming brain drain, laziness and crippled people became and how locust like AI hit everything like a plague
>>736451678same guy was constantly seething about Trump thoughconsidering he became president two times, I have my doubts that Oliver's views represent the majority of normalfags
>>736450083They are getting paid in rupees by the way, you might want to check the exchange rates.
>>736441046>Sonic and Pokemon
>>736452078The truth is those people were always lazy.
>>736451104Seethe
>>736441392>>736441749>>736452078Warned you niggersEat your plate of shit and ask for seconds
>>736451939I wouldn’t watch it, but showing up is 90% of the journey.
>>736451327People will share once they stop getting ripped a new one just for admitting that they did something creative (CREATIVE) with AI.>Anyone could prompt this>But they didn't>I did.
>>736441046Hopefully VN generation will be a thing soon. I just want a short story of a talking dog getting molested by a TSA agent.
>>736451904crazy how a normal 4chan-term got raped by literal reatrds so badlywordslop, some might say
Normal I'm pessimistic about these timelines, but it's already possible to create 2D game with a simple prompt, win condition/death condition, etc.So like, 5 years/
>>736441046Literally retarded analogy.
>>736451904Slop slop slop slop slop slop
>>736452358People already share. People can't be stopped from sharing. The internet overflows from infinite indians creating infinite garbage.
>>736441046>leftists opposing progress againAnd I thought nuclear energy hate was dumb, holy shit.
>>736452296Ai had always existed in video gamesI supported that actual AI that led to the increase of enemy complexity and gameplay diversity, advanced physics of the levels of scientific and creativity with TECHNOLOGY, not generative image slop. We are not the same.
>>736452404hownew.ruthis place was always upstream of internet culture.
>>736452358They will share but not as much as you think they would. Again, Suno have admitted to the problem that almost nobody shares their songs made on the platform because the issue is fundamental. You could gen a truly great game and share it online but as someone else with the same tools, why would I feel compelled to play yours when I can just make my own? Or hell, I can just take yours and tweak it to my liking. And I guess you can technically call that sharing but it's not really the same in spirit.
>>736441046>When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence?Right now>Like, imagine being capable of just typing "Create a 15 hour long game that is a crossover between Mario, Sonic and Pokemon, add hot anime girls and lots of mindblowing plot twists"A key problem is you needed mario, sonic, pokemon, hot anime girls, and mindblowing plot twists to have been created and trained into the AI beforehand.It both will oversaturate everything with mass amounts of slop focused on scraping decreasing mounts of money, and in turn promote stagnation which in turn promotes you also eventually never getting anything new.
>>736452535Ok jeetoid, nice proompt post
>>736441826Typing in words for prompts absolutely takes less skill than actually being able to draw.
>>736452538yes, it's still weird seeing dangerhairs use it since it was originally kinda making fun of jews
>>736451885AI projects take effort. The systems don't understand your requests half the time or give you a sloppy output that you then have to correct.> Generative AI has the unique problem that in the event that it fully takes off and becomes what people really want it to be it's probably inevitable that online creative spaces just become literal landfills in every senseThat's Furaffinity and the problem was already solved there. Everyone just navigates in their little community by hopping from person to person. You never, ever go to the frontpage unless you want your retinas burned off. Straight to your inbox, look at the favorites of people who have similar tastes to you, +watch when they post some choice inflation art, -watch when they post diaper art.
>>736442134Love the look of old warships where it's just like a big steel canoe with an ant hill of towers and guns piled on top.
>>736452078You sound Indian and hired.
>>736452607I accept your concession
Normalfags use the word slop now
>>736452710No, that isn't furaffinity. Children uploading amateur art have nothing on the ease of AI. One schizo autist can generate thousands of garbage images in a day and upload them.
>>7364410461995er here. No one complained about "digital slop". People were keen for it. The analog obsession came later, mostly from people that didn't experience it.
>>736452779You sound broke and barely passing for white
>>736452590>why would I feel compelled to play yours when I can just make my own? Because I found out that you have good taste and want to connect with you or your ideas, and it saves me the trouble of making shit myself, which even in a "frictionless" environment will still involve the unknown factor inherent in "this has never been played by a human being before."
>>736445304Using a chainsaw requires considerably less physical effort than using an axe, but it's still hard work. Does that make chainsaws useless?
>>736452134>constantly seething about TrumpThis describes about a third of the USA population.>>736441046Probably never. A true AI smart enough to make a game would still need more instructions than that to make an actually good game and all we currently have are chat bots.
>>736452836And if you don't watch them, you never see it.
>>736452923A chainsaw is tangible and created through actual physical work and human consensus. This is a false equivalency
>>736442134AI could never do this (because it goes against inclusivity guidelines)
>>736441046You can already do that now. It's not going to be much longer. I give it 2-3 years.
>>736452879Oh nooooo jeet's got jokes.Didn't deny it, though.
>>736441046AI can't make the simplest of games today. I had dreams of making a few thousand by making a card game I could sell on Steam. I just needed something new to wow the plebs with. I asked AI to come up with the rules to a new card game. It gave me the rules to a card game. One that was unplayable. A machine can't invent.
>>736446717Make it then. If its actually good people will play it.
>>736452997Except you do, and you will. Across all content aggregate sites, AI generated content is flooding them. More and more of a limited content space is being taken up by an unlimited tap of worthless garbage, so even if I manage to filter everything successfully including managing to filter the AI-sloppers that are trying to filter-evade, the site is still going to suffer for AIs inclusion.
>>736442074It's almost like /v/ is /pol/'s toilet
>>736442821You can't prompt the marketing.Yes, you can set up AI Agents to do it, but we're new to that topic.
>>736453050Don't need to deny anything to a projector.You have better jokes than me, you are a loving embodiment of one.
>>736452710I don't think you quite understand what it means to be a digital landfill. I'm taking about literal server space, videos and images are one thing but games can be rather large in their filesizes. Giving the average idiot the complete freedom to make his epic skyrim steampunk RPG game or whatever is probably going to be a fairly big game, having millions of people prompting similar grandiose nonsense is just going to lead to a crisis.>>736452920>Because I found out that you have good taste and want to connect with you or your ideasThis doesn't happen, not in the AI space. I think the old DALL-E threads are a good example of people just not engaging with each other on a creative level. Of course, unless you think "connecting with other's ideas" means asking for their prompts.
>>736441046Im starting to hear very often about that Big Reset Event that happens when humanity does something so stupid that activates some kind of cataclismic event, wiping most of us out of existence.And now with all this stupid shit in the world, I really hope that is true.
>>736453038Did you forget that a computer is a physical machine?
>>736441046good morning sars, AI is the future, thanks for do the needful
>>736453461Yeah and software is physical, ya fucking retard.
>>736453078Still waiting for AI to get good enough. It's not there yet.
>Want to create something>Relying on an approximation of your vision instead of working your way to the visionNo different than offloading the process to other people, where you have to sacrifice some of the "vision" to be practical. Anyone who says they will make their dream game/tv show/animation etc. with no compromise are delusional as fuck.
>>736453086Under the furry model, if you /don't watch the people posting or liking AI slop/, you /will not see AI slop/. This is not difficult to understand.
>>736453717You can at least instruct other people successfully on each part of their own creative process. AI's creative process is a black box.
>>736453153If I'm the comedian, are you the drama queen? (No need to answer that, it's rhetorical.)Keep farming that izzat.
>>736453757If you like some tags, AI sloppers will evade filters to try to get their shit seen. If you like some artists, AI sloppers will flood their tags with prompted garbage. AI isn't a tool for expression right now, it's a tool to try to get money for no effort.
>>736441046Monsters Inc came out in 2001, not 1995.
>>736441176Which is different from most games how?
>>736453614It is.
>>7364528651989 here. There absolutely were compliants when digital cg animation pushed out traditional 2D for films.
>>736441046We’re literally running out of the resources required to keep this shit running. One of the reasons why Sora was shut down was because of high operating costs and resource consumption. If we had unlimited resources and money, “prompting an entire game” could MAYBE be feasible in the 2100s. But this is not sustainable. The AI bubble will be the cause of the next Great Depression. A few hundred thousand people will die in political violence, (in america at least) and then things will return relatively back to normal. Screencap this.
>>736442074/vpol/ babee
>>736453886>AI isn't a tool for expression right now, it's a tool to try to get money for no effort.Correct, when low effort money comes into play is when you start getting things like jeet tides, scammers, and retards.AI generation is a interesting tool, but its allowing everything to get overwhelmed, and a guy masturbating to some generated porn pictures isn't worth being hassled by a few hundred thousand jeets trying to sell their "art"
>>736453160>I don't think you quite understand what it means to be a digital landfill. I'm taking about literal server space, videos and images are one thing but games can be rather large in their filesizes. Giving the average idiot the complete freedom to make his epic skyrim steampunk RPG game or whatever is probably going to be a fairly big game, having millions of people prompting similar grandiose nonsense is just going to lead to a crisis.The question isn't if platform moderation will be able to keep up with resource issues, it's whether you, as a user, will have to wade through the slop pile yourself. Will you have a degraded experience? Maybe. But you won't necessarily see why, which is half the battle won from the outset.FA would have emptied out of decent artists years ago if their fans had to deal with a deluge of niche fetishes that they don't subscribe to. But they don't, so the site remains useful. And, I'm telling you, this is the model. I know it's anathema to a site built on anonymity, but that's where normies are headed.>This doesn't happen, not in the AI space.I follow particular Twitter users specifically for the reason I stated.>I think the old DALL-E threads are a good example of people just not engaging with each other on a creative level4chan art generals are not representative of how the rest of the web works. Except in very rare circumstances, I don't want to know who you are and you don't want to know who I am. On twittersky, the first thing I'm doing if you post something neat is going into your media tab to see if there's more.
>>736452920You are being naive. 99% of the human population will not bother interacting with the creations of another humans tastes when they have the option to make something based around their own.
>>736453843No the comedian would be your mother, retard.You call me an Indian but you can't even come to conclusions correctly and you are more knowledgeable about Indians than I am.Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?
>>736453717Compromise is conserved and is a function of the size of the project, no matter the means by which production takes place.But I'm okay with that. I'm not charismatic enough to get people to make something approximating the shit I want to make, so I'll got to the bots.
>>736453764People are black boxes, anon.
>>736453717>approximation of your vision Nonsense. Only an issue if you are shit at expressing yourself. If you have a character in your head and cant dictate someone else to replicate what you see in your minds eye, then you clearly dont even have the character fully formed in your own mind.
imagine being able to just insta prompt interactive porn. I have read too much scifi where VR environments are free, think something like Diaspora. Society and relationships are in for one hell of a reckoning
>>736454191>No the comedian would be your mother, retard.Out of jokes, I see.>You call me an Indian but you can't even come to conclusions correctly and you are more knowledgeable about Indians than I am.>Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?
>>736454167>99% of the human population will not bother interacting with the creations of another humans tastes when they have the option to make something based around their own.99% of the human population doesn't even know what they concisely want, its there is the saying to sell people something they didn't know they wanted when it comes to both breaking ground and reaping giant profit
>>736454191>Why would someone bother knowing all about what they hate instead of focusing on what they love?>asking that question on 4chan out of all fucking places
>>736454370Yes and no, depends entirely on what your final vision is and how you would want it to be presented. There are some ideas throughout history that would be hard to describe down to each intricate detail, and can only come from the artist that made it (Or at least someone with a similar mindset).
>>736441046>create a derivative gooner gameClassic jeet AI slopper
>>736453886>AI sloppers will flood their tags with prompted garbage.>tagsUnless they take over my dude's account, they aren't flooding shit.
>>736454323People are concealed mechanisms but I can exert far more control over each step of the creative process through them.
>>736454524If you're intrinsically only limiting yourself to a handful of artists, then yeah. I just hope you never decide to look elsewhere for similar things.
>>736441136@Grok generate me a roguelike game with lots of really fun feedback indicators similar to chapter 1 fortnite damage numbers, slay the spire glows and subtle stars, make sure it utilizes deep detailed lore similar to caves of qud, make sure it retains a "Valve" polish and design
>>736453886people keep saying this but blacklisting "AI generated" is enough from my personal experience
>>736454538I'm not you.
>>736441046Lil' bro this shit is in freefall, OpenAI is dead, Anthropic is dying, Microslop is desperately trying to save the sinking ship by going back on AI etc., we've been telling you for years that this was yet another grift that would go nowhere as the set goals were beyond ridiculous and you still haven't learned anything.
>>736454614I doubt your personal experience.
>>736454682>meanwhile /g/ is losing their shit over gemma 4
>>736454579Again, you're island-hopping from one person to another. Eventually, you'll find a node in the network that leads you to a different branch. This is slightly dangerous, but less so than divebombing a random node.Now, if you start to consider that some nodes will be AI agents themselves, designed to funnel you to cognitohazards, THAT is maybe a harder issue to solve. But you're not being strapped to a firehose of slop; you're opening a door, and if something in the other room smells, you just close it.
>>736454682The AI bubble is like the dot com bubble. reasonable shit will survive. the speculative shit will die.
>>7364544364chan was created to discuss what they loved, I don't know who told you differently.Just because you fell for the Internet hate machine like every one else did, doesn't mean that is how it started
>>736441136>UnityGood to know I should further avoid anything that has that shit engine label slapped on it.Speaking of which:>>736441119>RPG MakerRemember when RPGM Unity was supposed to be a thing before the former EA CEO blew up the brand to where RPGM's devs backed out of it?
>>736454682Even if there is a bubble and even if it bursts in totally two more weeks, anyone who thinks ai is going to go away or stop progressing is utterly delusional.
>>736454817As previously outlined, the site is exposed to the firehose of slop, and is being tangibly damaged by it. This hyper-conservative approach to the site, however, might minimize damage to you yourself.
>>736454827The only reasonable shit is medicine which if AI *only* shrunk into the realm of medicine that would probably be for the best
>>736441046KEK. Good one.
>>736454937I think it'll progress as the things it's actually good at and not in the direction you yourself want it to. In other words, I'll stop paying attention to the new data sorting tech, and you'll despair.
>>736455024trvke
>>736454008>comparing ai jeetslop to Toy StoryPoser 3D spam would be a more apt comparison
>>736454430You don't get it.Let me explain, you are the joke, comedians conceive jokes, it's not that hard to figure the line of reasoning
>>736454952>and is being tangibly damaged by it.I acknowledged that, and pointed out that the only way users would know would be indirectly.
>>736441481Lmao
>>736454835>4chan was created to discuss what they loved, I don't know who told you differently.yes, because we all know how mascots like /v/-tan just ooze positivityall the shitflinging was totally ironic guys I swear
>>736455273Most users do not operate on such a conservative content methodology.
>>736454827Pretty much the only things that will survive out of this dumpster fire are>Some select applications in the medical/engineering fields that have proven to actually have a market and tangible applications>Some select tech for image editing and obviously porn>Data collecting stuff even if Palantir is next on the chopping block>Maybe some sort of local copilot shit for desktops but heavily restrained.Everything else is dead in the waters and the massive backlash this entire speculative shitshow garnered guarantees that entire research fields will either die or be reduced to tiny niches driven by small open source communities.The dozens of grifts like OP's idea of creating games from prompts will be a distant, unpleasant dream we'll look back in embarrassment.
>>736441046Even if the AI is perfect, "prompting" leaves a shitload of gaps, and it will fill the gaps with the most generic shit imaginable.To give you an example, this picture was "prompted" so to speak.Limited time to work on it and a vague description of how it should look like.There was just not enough data to get to the desired final art.Prompting an entire game in one go will lead to the same result because you don't actually know what you want, and when developing a game on the normal way you end up finding what you actually want while you iteract.I can see a very, very long "chat section" with a very advanced LLM making a good game, but not a single line of text.
>>736454937midwits see jensen talk about how AGI is going to pop out of the screen and give you 1 million dollars and immediately jump into the complete opposite direction, i.e it's useless, no one likes it and any evidence proving them wrong is fake
>>736441873What shits me off is that it isn't even the Ghibli style half the time.>>736455382The site in general was though, remember it was moot... "copying" 2ch and making an anime image board for him to discuss anime with his fellow weebs. It evolved but saying it wasn't created out of love is stupid.
>>736455251Oh, no, I get it. You were instructed to vehemently deny and attack anyone who caught on that you're a paid shill.I don't take your jibing personally, but please be aware that it's quite embarrassing (for you).
>>736441136>millions of untested ai generated "games" just slopped out buckshot style by turd worlders onto digital spaces without any quality controlgee golly>inb4 ludditeThe problem with AI isn't its existence, it's the users who celebrate mediocrity.
>>736455526what are you even talking about
>>736455392It's baked into the site design.
>>736455395Decent fanfic but maybe goes a bit too far into wishful thinking.
>>736455526Who the fuck is paying people to dislike AI, anon. Who? Point the finger. Show me a corporation that isn't excited to use AI to undercut workers.
>>736441046Do you think the game you've described would be good, or are you only imagining it would be good?
>>736441136>aquajeet
The whole AI era is interesting from a societal standpoint, where the elites are so sure of their position that they openly admit they are playing with funny money while sucking up resources for a project that *might* eventuate and solidify their position more while they control the bread and circuses.
>>736455642None of that is a fanfic, it's the most realistic and impartial scenario, the tech is a dead end and is neither physically nor commercially viable.
>>736455558>ESLSeems like a "you" problem.
>>736455672Indians threatened by competition.
>>736455751There was nothing grammatically wrong but the missing punctuation in my sentence.Since we have moved on to you being a grammar nazi, therefore conceding, you have lost.Drink your prune juice, gramps.
>>736455507>The site in general was though, remember it was moot... "copying" 2ch and making an anime image board for him to discuss anime with his fellow weebs.I.e three people right after the site was created.Claiming 4chan wasa place of positivity and friendly discussion for the majority of it's time and userbase is a straight-up lie.
>>736441046My favourite anectode is that there's a marked decrease in the quality of artefacts in archeological sites following the advent of copper tools. The first thing humans will do when a new tool comes out is use it to cut corners, reaching the point where people can actually make proper use of the tool takes a lot longer.
>>736455478Whatever helps you cope your boat at night. Keep burying your head in the sand, surely that will make it disappear.
>>736455382>v-tanyep, I knew it.You never knew where the "rage" and "hate" came from, I mean who could you? You never got it.
>barely literate lumpens typing prompts from their sofas=>the decades' of training required for painting / photography / film-making
>>736455794Indians literally love it more than anyone else. We are firing local workers and hiring more and more indians even in the AI "Restructuring". Infinite third worlders benefit more than you or I.
Never, because AI in its current form is prohibitively expensive and nobody's going to spend $30+ a month for your AI no matter how good it is. The reason that AI slop flooded the Internet is you could generate whatever bullshit you want from your phone for free, but as soon as you introduce a charge it's going to be impossible to keep the servers running with how few people want to pay for it. AI is going to be exclusively used at an enterprise level for coding (Claude) and really convincing AI marketing materials, but there's no universe where the average person is going to have enough money to afford the AI that generates whole movies or games.
>>736455913>Whatever helps you cope your boat at night.What the fuck does this even mean you retarded ESL?
>>736455945something something luddite nfts are the future
>>736455716Most of it is fine, but you slip in a few unrealistic points that read more like the desire of anti-ai fanatics. The desktop models probably won't be heavily restrained, and you'll probably be able to rent cloud resources, or work P2P, the same as you can now for CG rendering and other tasks. Some people will be interested in using this for game development, so that will probably develop, if slowly. It won't be prompt->game, but you'll probably see (at the very least) some robust QA applications.But it's true that most of the large platforms are omae wa mou shindeiru. Ironically, the people who were terrified of endless slop will get the exact opposite: attrition until verifiable outputs from early AI systems are scarce (valuable?) examples of the frenzy that lead to the worst economic crisis in a century.
>>736455848Oh, you seem desperate. Sorry, but I absolutely will not let up.
>>736441046I'm pretty sure that's already possible on unity
>>736452793Untouchables aren't allowed to accept anything other than an early death in a gutter somewhere. Get to it.
>>736455950*Indians who use AI threatened by competition from other Indians who use AI and want to dissuade them from pursuing its use.
>>736445265>You will not be able to impress creative intent through aiI disagree. Someone familiar with how to use it making sufficiently extensive prompts and being very selective to keep definitely could impress creative intent, it's just that at that point it'd probably be as much work as doing it the traditional way and everyone who does use AI is just slopping out the barest minimum garbage they can get away with anyway.t. never used AI
>>736456232What a crazy world.
>>736455950Your company could've hired even more jeets if it wasn't for AI. It preemptively stole their slave labour jobs.
>>736455950>Indians literally love it more than anyone elseIs that why the official White House pages keep using AI?
>>736456006It means you're too retarded to understand it. Don't worry about it.
>>736456321The jeets are getting hired to use AI, or often to pretend to be AI. AN indian pretending to be a robot is a more lucrative job opportunity, they would never oppose it.
Never would've expected google of all companies to be winning the AI war by making a method that isn't as intensive on RAM.
>>736456371Trump is spiritually Indian, you should know this.>loves gold in all things>obsessed with caste>hires family and friends first>literally cannot shut up about himself for two sentences
>>736455950Indians sold their souls for money, and hope AI will bring it back.It won't, sadly/luckly, AI just reflect who you are in the piece you made, because you judge the result and refine it.If you lack soul, your AI slop will also.
>>736456262You're close. It's easier and faster for specific applications. If I want to produce a character design in a particular game's style, it's much, much easier to draw out a rough sketch, feed it to an AI platform, and have it gen up a few examples than to go through the extended process of modeling, surfacing, lighting, and rendering a slightly better-looking image. If your use case is appropriate, you've saved yourself a ton of time and effort. But that use case probably shouldn't be showing your visualization skills.
>>736441046Anon imagines the ability to generate any game he wants, and all he could come up with is Nintendo manchildslop combination
>>736456378Pathetic
>>736456371The same reason Trump allowed Nvidia to run retarded with no leash.Money and the fact AI has now became the backbone of the economy and the backbone is made out of bubblewrap and the boomers are doing one last run to pull the ladder out for everyone else and retire into the sunset on a golden parachute.How haven't retards noticed yet?
>>736456590Your perpetual tears remain delicious. Two more weeks for the rest of your life.
>>736455971>nobody's going to spend $30+ a month for your AI no matter how good it is.The funny thing is that even if people did spend $30+ a month this shit is still economically unviable.That's why Anthropic is now asking people to pay for Claude but for every $10 they're getting they're giving away several hundreds $ worth of compute, they're still operating at a massive, net loss and there's nothing they can do about it.>>736456115>The desktop models probably won't be heavily restrained, and you'll probably be able to rent cloud resources, or work P2PThat's an extremely optimistic prediction given what we have right now is already heavily restrained and extremely costly as well.There's already various open source project like Hermes Agent that you can use, right now, they're extremely resource intensive and consequently very costly in terms of hardware as well, it will take decades for that sort of stuff to go anywhere if it ever does because researchers have been saying for years that LLMs are a dead end and a scaling nightmare.And do keep in mind, right now we're still very much at the tail end of the AI wild west, regulations and control still haven't really hit the "market" so while the worst has yet to come our current models are already very much restrained and the actual viability is extremely dubious.If we also consider the backlash against copilot and the various socioeconomic issues people already have with AI apps things don't get any better, which is why again, the only things that are going to survive are either extremely specific things that are already lucrative AND viable in the scientific/political field or more grassroot style stuff that will mostly be about porn.
>>736456192You lead by example
>>736441046It is beautiful how AI faggots managed to ruin the ghibli style, It is now the "low effort AI slop" style.Also it is funny how they operate by tranny logic, demanding people to actually consider the thing good, rather than trying to make good things with it.
>>736452660It's so easy to tell you're seething. Get a real job, hack.
>>736456172If you say so, Sisyphus.
>>736456759>they ruined this art styleThat's not how art works you fucking retard.
chuds really did squander their unprecedented cultural dictatorship on ai slop didn't they
>>736456759good, Miyazaki can suck my nuts
>>736446742are these conservatives in the room right now
>>736457070The only people that had a "cultural dictatorship" on AI slop were the fags marketing it in the first place.
>>736456386>AN indian pretending to be a robot is a more lucrative job opportunity, they would never oppose it.I have trouble believing that a jeet can successfully disguise himself as a large LANGUAGE model
>>736456736>And do keep in mind, right now we're still very much at the tail end of the AI wild west, regulations and control still haven't really hit the "market" so while the worst has yet to come our current models are already very much restrained and the actual viability is extremely dubious.No, we're coming to the end of the Mama Bell era, where arbitrary restrictions were imposed by a monopoly (or, cartel, in this case). You won't be able to dial into a massive time-sharing system fueled by printbux for free, but you will be able to buy time with smaller, more expensive platforms, probably for larger asks once your local systems have optimized requests. Those platforms also won't be THAT expensive, as the physical systems powering them are going to be sold off for pennies on the dollar, making them viable. Some will find their way into the hands of private buyers who'll be able to run relatively powerful models locally.When the Dot Com bubble burst, it took out so many companies, but it didn't destroy the colo business and it didn't stop people from spinning up their own servers. Same thing here.
>>736457070Chuds were just a platform for techbros, they didn't even consider AI as they're too busy virtue signalling among themselves
>>736457164Oh they can! Badly! But in that case I was talking about the indians they get to pilot the humanoid """ai""" robots who take over whenever the """""""ai""""""" has to accomplish a task
>>736441046But why would I want to play someone else's prompted game? I don't even want to play my own prompted game
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>>736441046>When do you think it will be possible to prompt an entire game into existence?Depends on how you define "an entire game". If it's something tic tac toe or an infinity runner, you can do so right now (graphics will be dogshit though).If you expect to type one prompt and get an AAA or AA game you can actually play and finish that would look and function at least similar to human-made ones, then never, barring some fundamental breakthroughs in AI technology.
>>736457327god chris is so based
>>736441046>Maybe before 2030?before 2027 is a reasonable bet
You guys are dweebs
>>736457432akchually, my exact view is shared by the entire western population
>>736441046Kill youself street shitter.
>>736457190Even if the physical systems are going to be sold off for pennies to small startups they're still not going to solve the double whammy of lack of infrastructure to support them and the prohibitive costs in terms of resource to power them, it's what cockblocked the current grifters under complete free reign AND government gibs, whoever picks up the remains in a couple of years is not going to have an easier time.Efforts in Local AI like again, Hermes Agent are the only thing that's going to reliably survive as I see it, as most of the onus will be on the private citizen, but even there it's going to stay an expensive toy with very little actual use case for a long while before we see something significant.
>>736457551back to you, tranny
>>736457597You seem stuck on the idea that just because what we have now is going away (and it is), nothing will come in to replace it. Quality will initially be degraded - say bye to quick generations, you will be waiting - but the diffusion of hardware will let small outfits experiment in ways the big guys wouldn't allow. Look, if AI porn survives, the tech survives. Period.
>>736449514I've only met 1 person who likes AI irl and they're a bipolar schizo freak. Funny how anecdotal rhetoric works.
A third of the world's helium supply has been taken off the table due to the Iran war. Good luck making the chips to fill all those empty datacenters without that.
>>736457793>if AI porn survives, the tech survivesIt won't.Real porn didn't and I'm not talking about OnlyFools and the pros that controlled by the hand wringersThat shit is manufactured and not genuine.
I don't get how in 2026 people are still doubting AI's potential.Just one year ago if you tried to generate a video it'd be the fakest most AI-smelling shit ever. Now the AI generates a full storyboard, makes everything cinematic, voice acts everyone, adds soundtrack, gives you way more control, and lets you edit any micro aspect of the work (instead of having to generate everything from scratch)This shit is evolving exponentially and creating a game is not that much more complex than creating a movie.Also I don't think /v/ understands that this is not supposed to replace actual developers. But it's going to be a fun way to kill some hours. Low quality content can still be entertaining. For instance you can generate porn games or make a fighting game with your favorite franchises, I don't see why the fuck people try to find problems with this, it's just fun.
>>736457854>they're a bipolar schizo freak.you met /v/ in real life?
>>736441136>aquaposter>the worst opinion possible for the max reply farm
>>736458175I'm not even mad at this point. I've never seen an aquajeet reply with less than 10 (you)s. Must admit his baiting is something else.
>>736458090>creating a game is not that much more complex than creating a movie.Lol, lmao even. Now I understand what type of retard actually creates threads like this.
>>736458090anecdotally, as someone that is learning a new language, I use AI as my 24/7 perfectly patient tutor who can generate literally endless sample sentences, walk me through the most autistic grammar, practice conversations with me, grade long form responses, etc. Just for the education potential, AI is just fucking insane
>impotent seethe thread #934938418278127817432don't you faggots get tired of doing this for years or are you all just bots?
>>736458238A language model SHOULD be good at language. I think this is a fine use of the tech.
>>736441046not anytime soon, the context window for AI shit is not big enough unless you're make a really small and simple gameplus troubleshooting shit in a game made like that would be a bitchif you say some shit like 'the UI gets stuck once you open it, fix it', it will try to fix it and then change or break some other unrelated shit
>>736457793I don't think something will replace what we currently have at least in terms of stuff like audiovisual stuff or agents, I think what we do have right now will largely survive for some time, albeit in a heavily regulated and crippled form, but will eventually die for good in a decade or so because the concept itself is inherently not commercially viable for a long list of reasons.Do I think the tech itself will outright go extinct? No, AI porn alone WILL survive but again, it's such an unviable tech in terms of actual commercial use that I do not believe it will ever get out of purely open source and largely free private use fueled by a bunch of enthusiasts, outside of a bunch of aforementioned tech sectors the entire LLM field is too limited and currently controversial to have a real future.
>>736458231You only think this you fundamentally don't understand what AI is capable of. Where we're going, we won't need code or 3D models or anything we currently think of as mandatory in game creation.
>>736441576>Doesn't know a dry plate photography machineIt's official, AI is smarter than zoomers
>>736458156No, not the funny online lolcow kind. The real person whose shit you have to deal with daily kind.
>>736441046I also sometimes like to think that this pic is not a bait, but a genuine attempt to meme from some butthurt indian with negative iq
>>736458238It was already good at this in 2022.>>736458231Yes, you arrogant retard. Games are not more complex than movies. It is trivial for AI to come up with the gameplay. People have been vibe coding games since 2023.
>>736457951>helium gone>energy prices sky rocketingIt won't be beneficial to run any of these mega data centers and mega warehouses. Good fucking riddance. Friendly reminder some pharmaceutical labs that produce drugs for troons in tel aviv also got blown up. No more troons. You love to see it.
>>736452923No, because a chainsaw produces strictly better results. It's not really comparable with "ai" that at best manages pale imitations.
>>736458356>You only think this you fundamentally don't understand what AI is capable ofunironically other way around. I know how "AI" works and what it is capable to do. Go invest in some NFT, it is the future too
>>736458459Modern troons have nothing to do with actually being women or as close as possible to one.Is just gibes, Gibe me womens rights, give me women liberal rights, give me free "lesbian sex".It's not a bunch of perverted men anymore, it's politics.
>>736457951Don't forget about the copper which used to be in abundance.AI? More like acceleration immediately
>>736458553>comparing AI to NFTsfantastic way to out yourself as a retard
>>736458427no-no-no, this is obviously a bait, I refuse to belive in this level of stupid
>>736458356>You only think this you fundamentally don't understand what AI is capable of.I think this precisely because I fundamentally understand what AI is capable of and what the limitations are. You apes, on the other hand, really believe it's some kind of magical black box where you can type shit and things will just appear out of thin air. >>736458427>Yes, you arrogant retard. Games are not more complex than moviesTell me, what's it like, being so irredeemably fucking stupid? I'm genuinely interested. Do you forget to breathe sometimes?
>>736458553>comparing AI to NFTsYou people are so laughably stupid.
>>736458327I still think your vision is clouded by wishful thinking. We're not getting a big wish box, no. But image stuff is one of the places it absolutely is going to persist, particularly in the tool pipeline. AI-based auto-retopo and weight-painting for 3D models, AI-based Gaussian splatting, for surfacing, for relighting, on and on.As for regulations, I think that only happens if the obvious astroturfing is successful. Maybe it will be. I hope not. If the tech is out there, I would hope people could use it how they like. Old regulations are strong enough for the stuff people mostly complain about (CSAM, revenge porn, creating fraudulent and defamatory imagery).
>>736458356If AI was that good, the AI companies wouldn't be selling access to randos for peanuts they'd be using it to take over entire markets for themselves.
>>736458553Nobody tell them what banks are all switching their back-end/inter-bank systems to.
>>736458719I use it every day. Obviously there's limitations. But to pretend like it's not advancing rapidly is just willful ignorance. Your asshurt blinds you.
>>736452134keep throating goy
>>736458787What do you think the end goal is? Thank god for local open source. The funny thing about AI is anyone seems to be able to do it and they can all just distill from the top models for a fraction of the cost.
>>736458891John Oliver is a jewish asset tho
>>736458735Not that guy, but you sieze on comments like that as a massive cope, to avoid facing the reality that AI advancement has plateau'd well short of the promised future. There needs to be another major breakthrough to achieve the kind of fully autonomous production across broad domains that retards like you believe is already here (or maybe 2 more weeks).AI is an incredibly useful tool, but it's undeniably a slop factory in ways that are as analogous to film vs digital as AI is to NFTs. So if you're going to sperg over bad analogies you should start with OP. It's much more retarded.
>>736458929Controlling everything. The goal is for every digital interaction to be filtered through an AI layer controlled by a handful of people. Software and art are just immediate cash grabs.
>>736458861>I use it every day.So do I.>But to pretend like it's not advancing rapidlyYeah, it's advancing, but even if you ignore the fact that the pace of this advancement has slowed down massively, there is a difference between an AI agent now being able to execute on a well-defined task with human supervision and you going "computer, make a 10/10 game with big anime tiddies" and expecting some kind of result.
>>736459068I seize on it because it instantly outs them as clueless and driven purely by emotion.This tech has not plateaued. It's continuously getting better via training and researchers are finding frequent breakthroughs of all sorts. Gemma 4 just came out, is free, open source and is crushing far bigger models at a fraction of the size.Is AI a slop machine? Sure. Because it lowers the bar to the basement. The average person is a slop machine. 90% of what anyone makes is crap. These people were never meant to be able to make anything, but now they can just tell an algorithm to conjure up whatever retarded idea they have in plain English and upload it. That is not the fault of AI, that's a human issue.
>>736441481We've known this for a while now.
>>736449127if it can make porn, fuck it I'll pay
>>736449127>You will pay to prompt a game that only you will playWorth it.
>>736441046What came before paint slop? Wheel slop?
>>736459357No, you fundamentally didnt even understand his analogy. He didn't claim NFTs were analogous to AI, only that you are a bandwagon jumping retard who would jump on any trend that was hyped enough.>slopYou misunderstand. The AI inherently generates slop NO MATTER WHO USES IT. You have to work hard to beat it into submission if you even want something close to good. And that is not the AI revolution that your prophets fortell.>gemma 4It's been almost 2 years since any new model has had any serious breakthroughs, despite the fact that every time a new one gets released all the hypetards act like it's a big happening.
>>736459852AI slopTime is a flat circle
Did they just give up on claiming le AGI was right around the corner? I haven't heard that talking point in a long time.
>>736459357Funny how every single AI shill hates human beings
>>736459919>You misunderstand. The AI inherently generates slop NO MATTER WHO USES IT.except for me, i make robot girls
>>736453297that's pretty much my thought while watching citizens of the world's superpower split themselves between 2 equally batshit insane ideologies, both of which continue to rape the middle class in cruel and unusual ways I'm expecting a nuke to drop somewhere before the year is over honestly
>>736441046Only one of those isn't made by a human or any living being (nature can make art)Don't try to put yourself on the side of the people who are creating and innovatingYou're a talentless loser; you can't stand having your laziness rewarded by anything else that spits on your face
