Can Metroid recover after the disaster that was Prime 4? Or is it fucked?
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>>736448006Prime 4 wasn't a disaster. Other M and Federation Force were disasters.
>>736448006Depends on whether or not Nintendo develops it in house, because clearly retroware isn't gonna be allowed anywhere near it ever again.
>>736448006>Tekuho
>>736449925Federation Force is good actually
>>736450465>cute little basedmedabots
>>736450789They need to remake it for Switch 2 with Metroid Prime 4 graphics and working online.
>>736450097Metroid Prime 4 was a flub for two reasons:1. Due to time constraints and talent concerns, the devs couldn't throw away wholesale the work done by Bandai-Namco, so they basically had to Frankenstein their work to somebody else's.2. Above talent concerns; the company essentially restructured, again, and did so in the interest of recruiting new staff to make Prime games. Said talent was built up almost from scratch during extensive hiring rounds, and still, a great deal of outsourcing was necessary for the scale of the project. Some video essayist Youtube nerd is probably going to have a field day and if and when more details surrounding the development cycle come to light because it sounds like a clusterfuck. But, given that upon taking the Prime 4 project, Retro started recruiting staff for the express purpose of development on Prime, I doubt they're done. ONE more is probably in the tank.
>>736449925Federation force wasn't even that bad, it was just underwhelming and not what the series needed at the timeI'd play federation force with friends over prime 4
>>736452301He's based.
I'm sad that we keep having Metroid threads but they never survive past a couple dozen replies tops. We used to have Super FUCKING Metroid threads nigh-ritualistically that would stay on the catalog for ages. Is there just nothing divisive enough to spawn the engagement bait-tier discussion that carries threads now? "Prime 4 sucks and is a flop" yeah we know. Reception of Dread seems kinda split, it's critically lauded and generally well liked with high sales, but some people vocally dislike it too. Argue about that.
>>736448006What would be the optimal way to design Samus inside the suit? I can't visualize how does she fit inside without breaking her bones.
Only 2D Metroid mattered. Mercury Steam will save public perception.
>>7364480063D metroid? Fuck no. Dread ensured that we'll get another 2D entry though. In classic Nintendo fashion it'll just be so many years later that even if they get Mercury Steam to do it again most of that dev team will have been replaced.
>>736454181She turns into energy when inside the morph ball so maybe it's something similar. Either she completely turns into energy or only partially so her arms and legs and other joints are separated from her body so they don't get dislocated by the suit having different proportions.
How does the Power Suit’s beam function even work for Samus to be unable to use the Ice Beam when she turns Metroid?
The amount of BBC porn Samus gets is a blessing.
>>736448006Metroid as a whole will be fineBut I think Prime is done for
Prime 4 flopped but the Prime 1 remaster did very well. Doing it again for 2 sounds reasonable, especially since the Prime 1 remaster was practice for their new staff to feel out how to make a Metroid game, and they clearly need more IF they have any intention of making another Prime game.
>>736448006It's part 1 of a planned trilogy, and sold passably. Now that they have the framework done, it's all just assets and content. They'll get another shot, and hopefully will have learned from this experience. And I'm sure 2D is fine since Dread did well.
Prime 4 sucked. I'm not sure os there will be a Prime 5. That said Prime 2 remaster for Switch 2 that takes advantage of light RTX elements and HDR might work. Assuming the Prime brand isn't damaged beyond repair.
>>736448006Probably not going toget a Prime 5, but I do hope we get another 2d sometime this gen.
Sex with balls.
>>736455742sounds kinda gay
Mercury Steam is making a new Metroid, Retro is hiring more people and there's a 2D Super Metroid remake coming, so yeah.
>>736455742This is like next level autism.
>>736453804There's a lot to discuss but it's mostly because you can't really talk Nintendo on /v/ anymore because it's so filled with retards who have a burning hatred for them. In the case of Metroid is ACfag constantly flooding threads regardless of if you reply or not.
>>736456682I wonder how people would feel if a Super remake changed the X-ray scope to work like aeion pulse instead?
>>736453804>"Prime 4 sucks and is a flop" yeah we know.niggers like (you) are why we can't have Metroid threads anymore.You rather just shit post and lie, than have honest discussion.Prime4 was fine enough, just not amazing. And nothing indicates it flopped, and rather is showing it'll become the highest selling Prime entry and likely match Dread's 3mil.>People dislike Dread...supposedlyWho? For what reason?
>>736449925I just downloaded Federation Force recently and it's pretty cool. Art style is the only issue.
>>736458283>You rather just shit post and lie, than have honest discussion.
>>736453804all of our 19 years of speculation came true.all that is left is to argue about whether or non Prime is canon (its not) and say "remember the tubez memes? or feathers 4 pubes?"Im very autistic for Super Metroid but everything i needed has been addressed. All i can hope for is that M:OM gets retconned publicly by a metroid 6 that does the same thing without the embarrassingly bad plot mistakes.
>>736458283>Who? For what reason?I've come to hate it over the past years because it feels too much like marvelshit. Too much spectacle, not enough gameplay.
>>736454181>>736454550energy thing is correct. crystal flash is basically the same concept but she removes the amoured exterior in order to heal. The idea is that she goes into fedal position, crystal flash is a womb, morph ball is a shell.So really, post metroid-suit, they could say fuck it, her body is anything it needs to be. But more realistically, Nintendo would have forms that extend aspects of her body while other parts shorten. Like a left claw instead of cannon right arm.
>>736458283>who? For what reason -shit exploration -too linear-terrible major new gimmick (emmi)-awful music-unfinished (despite being like 4 hours long) and padded with boring x chozo/central unit fights -1 new upgrade worth a damn (flash shift)It's only barely better than prime 4 (7/10 vs 6.5/10)
>>736458770Whats the issue here?
>>736458646It's a shame. Metroid Prime by former LucasArts devs sounds baller on paper but if its skeleton still remains in the ideas for the Metroid Prime 4 that we got, it's easy to see what problems there must've been. And that led to development that sounds like it had to frenzy just to get anything out the door whatsoever.
>>736459131its just ACpedo seething that people like dread ignore him
>>736459187Shut the fuck up, i wasnt asking about your schizo delusions.
>>736459131The problem with Dread's Parries are that they remove most of the interactivity in combat. The typical combat involves Samus shooting at the enemy, and in return you have to avoid getting killed. The parries remove half of the equation, so you get free damage during a scripted fight where the enemy literally cannot hurt you.It's just not fun. It's a pseudo cutscene. I hate free damage. Metroid should be unforgiving. Stop giving casuals these dumb crutches.
