Play Slay the Spire 2
>>736457672I also genuinely thought that's what the card was the first time I used it, it's that regent one that puts shit from discard on top of your deck
>>736457736Same it wasn't until someone posted a big art of the card I was like wtf. It makes more sense but I prefer what I saw originally.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241032413889/76561198030802028Hostan beta
>>7364580203/4
Am I insane or are some of Neow's starting options way better than others? You got shit like lmao xd here is 150 gold and then there's booming conch which will benefit you all the way through act 3
>>736458020Re-hoststeam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241035354725/76561198030802028
My energyslut build finally came together with the deck dupe and its joever
>>736460265>>736460250
>>736460250Waiting on silent, you still here?
Everyone knows 2d feet attract Silent players. Maybe i can flash him out with this
>>736460359Do we leave without him?
Should I download this mod?
>>736460250It's fucked :(
>>736460493>No Viper BeamNo.
Last attempt to re-host else I will kill the runsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241035838721/76561198030802028
Just make a new one at this point
>>736460604:( It's joever
Early shovel into Mummified Hand was a lot of fun.
>>736460690OKsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241036019836/76561198030802028
>>736458841>>Prepared doesn't appear>>Acrobatics doesn't appear>Guess I'll dieNOOOOOOOOOO What do you mean I have to play cards without drawing my entire deck like the other characters?I NEED to SHUFFLE my BIG THROBBING DECK at the very LEAST 5 times per combat.
>>7364607473/4
>>736459837150 gold is fine if there is an early shop.Think of it like the scissors that let you remove 1, but with extra steps.
*Ahem* FUCK VAKUU
>>736459837150g is a huge boon considering it has 0 downside aside from opportunity costEarly shop can have good cards or relics to set you up to win the game
The "Upgrade Starting Relic" should've been a Neow's blessing.
>>736460748It do be like that
Regent feels so much better on the beta branch
>take 20 damage in the first fightyep it's an a10 necrobinder run
holy fuck this deck was clawful. Music box makes claw insane but the queen's buff made it so I still only barely won. Shoutout to adroit toric toughness getting me to the end with barely a scratch. dexterity increases the effectiveness of adroit
>>736462125also im not sure why it says i lost, i beat doormaster then queen with 8 hp left
>>736462180must be the wrong run anon. toric toughness isn't even in your card list
>>736462125>34 minutes runwtf bro you are so fast, my runs take more than 1 hour. I watched a streamer that did a 3 hours Ironclad run lmao
the amount of rng luck in this fucking nigger game makes my blood boil
Is demon form even worth it? I'm at ascension 8 and it feels like any fight that lasts long enough to get value out of it is also a fight that greatly punishes you for drawing out said fight.
>>736462720I'm gonna say no. Even if you find a way to play it at zero cost on turn one, 2/3 strength a turn really isn't a lot when you want to be done with most fights by like turn 5 or 6.
>floor 1sometimes you just know it's going to be a struggle run
>>736457672>>736457736wait what the fuck I thought that's what it was tooalways seemed really off to me why the card looked so different
>>736462987id much rather have precise cut over the bullshit they have been giving me lately
>>736462536There's a badge for getting less than 30 mins in a run.Just dont think bro.
>>736462987>Halfway through act 2 on ironclad>Still not even one copy of battle trance in my deck
Speaking of run time, is there any speedrunners for this yet?
>>736462296sheeeit you're right I just screengrabbed the most recent run but it looks like the latest run wasn't even in my history until I restarted.>>736462536>wtf bro you are so fastI lose almost all of my a10 runs!
>>736462987Precise cut is very good early, you are just a complaining retard
>>736463117tons of seedless a0 runs done in like 5 minutes for silent, defect and ironclad.>>736462537the skill is in mitigating rng, the fact that the best players maintain high winrates on a10 proves that you (and I) are shitters
>>736463117sts speedruns are garbage
I LITERALLY JUST UPGRADED THAT CARD YOU CUNT
>>736462987The right call is definitely Precise Cut, but I wonder if there are enough shiv cards in the game to ever justify taking a blind Accuracy. (Also, rolling 3 uncommons on floor 1 card reward is a 1 in 27 chance)
>>736463191>Precise cut>On the character with +2 draw on turn one and 3 energyPlease go be a retarded monkey nigger somewhere else
Beckon is such a bitch to deal with.I discard it and it just comes back.How the fuck am I supposed to exhaust this shit?
>>736463235it's a brick and still a semi-brick once you fine a shiv card or two. Accuracy is only useful once you have a shiv deck already going.>>736463261you're a stupid faggot, it costs 0 energy and even with a shit turn 1 hand you'll play at least three of those cards and have another free strike. Most other hands you can get full or near full damage with survivor. You're the blackest gorilla nigger.
>>736463261It's 0 cost early damage, which is exactly what silent wants, even if you draw it on a turn 1 hand, it's basically a free strike that lets you play your block cards
>>736463267*Laughs in true grit+*
>>736462720>Is demon form even worth it?only if you get it costing 0 or if you have a lot of energy
>>736462720It was barely worth in 1, unusable in 2 unless you get it for free or are doing Barricade memes
>>736463197act 1 is a lottery i dont care what anyone says. there is no skill in not drawing 5 strikes against the slugs doing 6 and 9x2 or whatever they do in the first fight of the game
>>736463261>saying no to FREE damage>not picking it over cards that needs you to invest in a build
>>736463553people seem to manage. why don't you?
>>736463261>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST DO 13 DMG FOR FREE
>>736463293Yeah, I kinda implied that. I was just saying that having 6 more card rolls before you start seeing hard encounters, and was wondering how likely it was that you'd see a common shiv card from any of them.
>>736463553you might get raped on a turn or 2, but that won't outright kill youit's up to you to mitigate a bad opening
I'm hardstuck ironclad at A9
>>736463628>>736463769you don't play A10
GGs USbros. Time to go to bed. How do you emote btw?
>>736463916I do, I just mostly lose at it. I see other people win consistently so I know the problem is my performance. You think you're naturally unlucky or something?
>>736457672when the leafy poultice hits
someone host
>>736464053hits different for me, i just got backflip and leg sweep
>>736463267The ghost fish doesn't hit hard and spends every other turn doing nothing, I think the idea when you see ghost fish as your act 1 boss fight is to lean into a quick deck and nothing slow or defensive before the beckons overcome you
>mistook Perfect Fit with Imbued againAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>736464232>again
Please buff demon form, Anthony
silent > defect > necro > regent > ironcladwhat am I ranking them by?
>>736464442how braindead they all are?
>>736464442Best color > Worst color
>>736464479how easy they are so that's a way to put it yeah
>>736461002>better for you if you play your hand from left to right
>>736464701>radiant pearl>bellows
>>736464225It doesn't inflict statuses that fast either so even one or two ways to exhaust those statuses makes the fight much easier. Sucks when you can't find one though.
>>736463943press /v/
>>736464162hostan now if you're still heresteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241043088430/76561198030802028
hosting beta if anyone's onsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241044352122/76561199486452220
>>7364664323/4!
>comet>music boxIs this a trvke nvke
>>736457672Anyone else have the game crash their PC when they close it? It doesn't happen during the game so it doesn't bother me that much but it's still odd.
>upgrade 6 random cardsSure, half my deck is non-starter cards. Id love if one or two got upgraded>upgrades three strikes, one defend, neows fury, and unleasht-thanks orobas...
>Regent decided to start their own universe
Let's run that backsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241045669162/76561199486452220
>>736466989>taking neow's furymade a mistake on floor 0
miniature tent is cracked especially in multiplayer
Hosting another beta lobby
>>736467440Raw fax, no printer. Shit's insane.
>>736467490Forgot linksteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241045848804/76561198030802028
>>736467490>>7364675313/4
>>736460412truke footchads won
>start run>act boss is vantom>quit and restart
>>736467878easiest by far. do you avoid block cards or something?
>>736467878He ain't that bad unless your build has a hard time getting through his damage shield
Just got the last Ironclad epoch - seems the sun hasn't actually been destroyed, since the art, placeholder though it is, clearly has the sun in it. Damn, a lot of flavor text in STS1 was kind of hinting it was destroyed at some point, which would have been kind of a rad thing to be in the setting.Also, everyone seems to be assuming STS2 happens precisely 1000 years after STS1 - where exactly is this confirmed? I don't think I've seen anything like that said in any of the epochs (and I now have all of them except 15 regent bosses)
>>736468307you might be the first person to ever care about this. i wish you well
>>736467178
Reached ascension 3 on all characters. When does it get difficult?
>>736468490ascension 0
>>736468415You motherfuckers terrify me sometimes...
>>736468490If you're any good at the game, A7 probably
>>736467389Neow gave me all dogshit. It was that or booming conch or an extra strike+defend on necroAnd of course on my first act 2 event when I'm trying to make my way to fires to get the upgrades I need the windy bridge targets my rare, then my dirge, then my rare, then my other rare, then my upgraded grave warden. Should have just let it take bodyguard I guess and saved 7 hp at the end. I got such godlike card rewards but I legit lost because the ancient bonuses all flopped for me and I got dogshit rng with maps and events that prevented me from upgrading more than two cards before I barely die to sandworm
>>736467490Beta version of this guy is a motherfucker. Silent, absolutely obliterating every fight, elite and normal dudes. Hit this boss. Absolutely fucking wrecked me. Yeesh.
>>736468307it's confirmed in the epoch you unlock for beating bosses with regent
>>736468590You ain't seen nothin yet
>>736468490a9
>>736468490A5 is the first time you could possibly loseA9 is when the game gets actually challenging
>>736462987Bro precise cut is amazing in act 1. I think we’re seeing a textbook case of “To the bad lover even the balls get in the way.”
I need the Watcher
Holy shit boys, I did not expect to win. GG
clean as fuck run boys gg
>>736469552Were you the other Silent? That was brutal. Fucking Ironchads pushing us into that last elite I swear to GOD
>>736469574Yeah I was. I got raped so early by draws. Not a single energy card or relic. I was just holding on for dear life throwing out Flankings and letting you guys deal with everything
>>736469552>>736469552>>736469574GG ez
>>736469574>1HP? No problem, let's do an elite. >Still winsCrazy game. A lot of fun still.
Maybe I shouldn't have given everyone souls lmfao
>>736466432Nice try guys, sorry about that test subject fight, Vakuu played like every skill on my deck on the first turn.
>>736469956Soulful end to my ice age
Somebody do one more. I'm not ready for it to be tomorrow yet
suresteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241049453444/76561199486452220
fuck that ones full so here's anotherLOBBY>LOBBYLOBBYsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241050281251/76561198002917239BETA BRANCHA10 OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE UNLOCKED ALL WELCOME
Get Fucked Doorman
>>7364707342/4 WAITING A FEW MINUTES WOULD LIKE AT LEAST 3
>>736457736nah ngl I lowkenuinely have genuinely fatigue
>>736470867>>736470734SORRY ONE GUY WHO JOINED IN LOOKS LIKE IT AIN'T HAPPENING
This abomination should not have made it through act 2I was running 2x Hyperbeam for some god forsaken reason and my block fucking suckedI thought status was a total meme outside of turbo/overclock
>>736471330o7
>Ironclad run>picks Corruption>winsit's that easy, just like STS 1
And I got an A10 win for the first timeNote what I enchanted with soul’s embrace
>>736471523>win>.99
>>736460424>>736460529weather issues caused a blackout in my area,i love the place i live in,
RIPI wasn't strong enough ;_;
>>736472252I can't believe you couldn't solo it baka my headGG though was a fun run
>burst damage turn lines up with test subjects invincible turn every timeI dont feel outplayed
>>736472371>no drawoutplayed
>go shiv build>funny haha hive man pops up as eliteevery single time
>>736472498I bet you skipped Phantom Blades, too.
thoughts on save scumming?
>>736472619i think it's based because i do it
>get volley from paper weight and heavenly drill offered early >full send energy stack with falling star/gamma blast vuln, also got mini cannonI know it's only on A7 but shit it was funny even before I got history book
>>736472498>don't respect bee man>get ownedwhat did you expect
anyone hosting?
>>736472971steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241053863654/76561198006368528maybe we should start at 3/4 because 4/4 never seems a challenge
Why is silent wearing a thigh strap? I didn’t expect non-whore to wear one
>>736471546thats a nerf playing regent
RIPgoing againsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241053863654/76561198006368528
>>736473098really bad draws during fish,such a pain as always.
>>736473665wrong lobby code
>>736473794steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241055394533/76561198006368528oh theyre almost the same, sorry
>>736473251it's a leg holster for her shivs...
>>736473251>silent>non-whoreAnon...
>ringing blocks knife trapAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
They should nerf the Chosen Cheese, it's way too strong of an event.
>>736457672>>736457736Holy fucking shit I feel so vindicated by knowing other people also saw a sexy brown girl when looking at that cart. But this does happen a lot with sts cards, like noxious flame looking like a dude
>>736468490It's noticeable on a8, before a8 its just small tweaks
>>736474789>less hp, less likely to get strong in act 1 >this will end up increasing your loss percentage >lose out on your pick of uncommon cards that can make you strong here and now I've not picked the cheese once reaching a10
>YOU WANT TO PLAY SHIV DECK?>GET RAPED
>>736475254>getting raped on a1
>>736475291I survived but it's bullshit normal fight
>>736475254AAAAAAAAAAAAND I DIED TO NUDOORMAKER, WHAT A FUCKING BULLSHIT, CAN'T DRAW, CAN"T GAIN ENERGY, DON"T PLAY YOUR WINCON CARDS ON THIS TURN OR THEY WON'T EXIST ANYMORE
>>736476009troonmaker is a great example on how not to do a redesign
>>736477060I don't understand how they want us to play against him. If they want bullshit to remain then change second phase to>can't draw more than 2/3 cards during your turnprevents bullshit "draw your whole deck" without punishing EVERY SINGLE DECK IN THE GAMEand third one>lose one energy every second card played
>>736477205it's like infinite fucked devs mother and killed his anus hamster
>>736477340NTA, but this is kinda why I haven't swapped to beta yet. Some of this shit is baffling to me.
>>736477340Infinites are a really good example of the dev not understanding their own game. They're not really any more broken than any number of other very broken things you can do (exhaust removal enchant + half the exhaust cards in the game is an obvious example). The issue isn't that they exist, just how common they are. Rather than trying to gimp them by introducing hard counters, they just need to make them a bit rarer (main thing to hit would be targeted exhaust) and let them happen if they happen.
>>736477340>>736477542t. Non ball knowersInfinites are the primary reason Watcher was so unfun and killing them is always encouraged
>>736477678can we kill infinites without fucking over everything else?
>>736477678Infinites will always exist because the game is rigged from the start.Silent and Defect can draw their entire deck multiple times a turn shitting out infinite energyThe rest can exhaust almost their entire deckBy being mindbroken about infinites they're stripping away the fun of normal play.
What's the correct answer if I don't get any star generators early?
Get rid of the Skip button. Force you to take a card every combat. Must have 20/30/40 cards in deck to beat act bosses.
>>736461156>Early shop can have good cards or relics
Why this card exists and why it's not a 0 cost?
>>736457672unless it goes on gog then im not playing it am i. ill play 1 instead.
>>736478094Remember how getting strength in Spire 1 was fun? Well, we don't want you to have fun so here's a shitty temporary situational version of that.
which form am I supposed to attack on the new boss?I was playing Silent with a small poison deck that relies on drawing cards, and all three forms just screwed me now
>>736478637*doormaker
>>736477778dont take too many star cost cards and upgrade your starter star generator
>>736478248>flex was 0 cost so you didn't waste energy before gaining str>spot the weakness gave you FOUR strengthyeah...good times...
Just finished a run with souls on necrobinder. Honestly the dopamine can't be topped in this game I think. Maybe lightning construct or silent which I haven't touched at all. It's sad that most of the time there's only a few win conditions you can get with a deck, and the RNG just fucks you on getting it.
i hate defect
>>736479091[Angry beeping]Defect is by far my favourite character.
they need to bring HIM back, all those skill playing PCs running around act 1 thinking they can't lose
events that force you to take a curse no matter what can gargle my nuts
>>736479241you need to cut down on your porn consumption
It's too much power
Would you guys bully me if i join the lobbies and play very mediocre
>>736479241He is back in spirit, thoughTest Subject first form is HIM
>>736477678The watcher had two card infinitesEvery character has multiple two card infinites in this game they should (and are) slowly revising, that doesn't excuse the fucking unfun shitshow that is the door ass cancer, I'm mad regardless or if i win or loseThe whole act 3 sucks by the way, when you win it's always with decks that could still beat the bosses if they dealt a billion damage, it's either crush or get fucked
>>736479593yes also severe doxxing and cock and ball torture
>>736459837it was that way in STS1 too, but I feel like it has gotten worse in 2
>>736460791150 is actively worse than the free remove with how much they boosted remove prices, you're removing less cards if you take the gold
>>736459837Booming conch is worst relic, 150 gold is decent
I genuinely find the silent so unfun to play. Not saying that she's weak, I just think she's unfun
WHERE ARE THE ANIME MODS
>>736479435I consume porn in moderation
>>736477678did you even read my post? the problem with everyone in sts2 (and watcher) isnt that they *can* go infinite, its that they can do it every run. if watcher went infinite on a super lucky run one out of every 20 then shed be fine.
>>736480023No, you can’t do that in every run, especially after nerfs
>>736459837Most worthless Neow buffs that I never touch>upgrade a cardReally, only Silent has a good upgradable card in their starter deck. I mean Defect and Regent like to have them, but not needed at all>neow's furyboring ass generic card that's never worth picking over the other 2 options>greed on anyone who has trouble exhausting passed A5An eternal card that doesn't exhaust when you already have the a5 eternal card just sucks. Sure you can still make the run work, but it feels bad every time>large capsuleadding 2 worthless cards to your deck and getting two lame ass common relics that do barely anything is too big of a risk>scroll boxes99 gold for cards that usually suck and also don't go together more often than notNever picking any of this trash
>>736480312> neow's furyAnger> large capsuleIronclad needs strong power boost two relics provide and he can just go for Perfected strike or exhaust extra basic cards
Man, I can only play 2 Defect archetypes well, 0 cost and status. This run would definitely have died on A8, though.
>>736480312I'd argue that having zap become a 0 cost card is huge, considering it's basically a trash card otherwise.
I just made it into act2 with a card creation deck (charge, supermassive, quasar, the power that gives me a random colorless every turn), hope I don't screw it up. What are you pathing tips for the Regent?
>>736462720in destroy the skyscraper one, the demon form was insta pick unless you already had a winning condition deck. after you have this card you just pick block cards and thats it. you won the game.in murder the stairs two, the demon form is weaker because a lot of enemies scale, sometimes even faster than you with it. But the strategy is the same: if you get it in act one, you can ~reliably win even A10, because you know all cards you need are block and maybe some exhaust to remove the status cards.
>Finally beat A10 on all characters>Kinda feel like I "beat" the gameWaiting for updates it is now
>beat a9 second try>lost like 40 runs in a10 and only made it to a3 boss twice, not even the second bosswas it just a fucking fluke
>>736480791But is it better than having 150 gold, 2 cards removed from your deck, or transforming a strike? I really don't think so.
>>736480825Same happened to meI think I was subconsciously playing too greedy because I feared the double boss
>>736480816> after you have this card you just pick block cards and thats it. you won the game.Only you can’t consistently draw it turn 1, can’t play it without losing 20hp every fight and it scales so slowly you will die
>>736480910Yup I'd only pick up demon form if I already had a super winning deck with shit like offering and/or energy relics. >waste one turn to do 3 more damage next turn>btw you drew this on turn 3>also the enemy already has 9 str lol>and you would also have killed them next turn regardlessSuch an awesome card!
power builds feel so bad in 2everything just starts wailing on you turn 1 and barely lets up while scaling on the same turn they attack, there's never time to play them
Here’s how to fix demon form>3 energy>gain 15 strength>lose 3 strength at the start of your turn
>>736480312Upgrading Bodyguard on Necrobinder is great for Act 1 too.
>>736481059>12 STR next turnWow, it still sucks.
realizing part of the reason clad kinda feels bad in this game, not just because of his gutted kit, but also how many enemies just shit out weak and frailother chars have ways to get around it (poison, orbs, doom, osty, etc.) but he just kind of has to suck it up, you can't even gain artifact anymore
>>736480910that is where the>pick block cardscomes in, if you know you have win condition in the deck, you can afford just to stall. and taking some chip damage as ironchad doesnt hurt nearly as much as with other classes which have to sleep to heal.but i agree, the card is nowhere near the power scale in 2nd game, because fights are way more brutal.
>>736464442sex appeal
>>736481214But unless you have hot cocoa, candelabra, offering/bloodletting, or some way to cheat it out on turn you want to play demon form you will spend all your energy on “do nothing”. Even if you stall and play block perfectly after that on turn you do play it you are likely to get hit for far more than burning blood can heal
SOMEONE HOST
ive started doing the ascensions with regent, hes a lot of fun. sealed throne + void form feels like cheating
>>736480987>Got creative AI from Neow's blessing>Even got the relic that makes every other card reward offer a power>Still ended up removing creative AI in act 2 because it might as well have been a curse
I just got into this game and I’m ngl Silent is the only character that feels good to playRegent and Necrobinder both feel awkward as fuck, especially Regent
>>736481576necrobinder is the most cohesive character after silent imo. play some more runs with her and experiement with different types of cards. once she clicks she feels great
Is there any way to block ringing or are you supposed to eat shit and die?
Everyone sleeping on OstymaxxingIts literally free damage and block.
>>736482023its hard to pull off in a10 but its possible
vantom is the most overtuned boss in the game
>>736482089Doorman got reworked 3 times already and the game is basically a month old.
>>736481680You’re supposed to tank it or kill him before he rings you
How much more popular would STS2 be if it had an anime art style?
>>736481680by the time hes ringing you should be close to ending the fight so just facetank one turn of it (use your ringing turn card on block if you need to) and then wrap up the fight before the next ringing turn
>>736478846>It's sad that most of the time there's only a few win conditions you can get with a deckI'm finding way more unique ways to win than in STS1. Every single win I get looks different so far still after 60 wins.
Ascension 9+ is too hard
>>736482424Anime ripoffs do exist so that popular.I did only pick up STS1 because of lewd anime mods though.
>>736482137i havent been playing beta branch because im still climbing ascensions and i cba with the game changing every week while i do. beta doorman looks worse than vantom but in terms of whats in the main branch vantom is worse
Host? Host! Host...., HOST!
Hostin betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241074670751/76561198029311169
>>7364827902/4 get your asses in here right Neow
>>736482424It would be less popular.
>>736482089he just needs less stacks on the effect that makes him take 1 HP on lower ascensions. He seems pretty well balanced for higher ascensions already. Not having A17-A19 with alternative movesets/differences kinda fucks up the balance. Just giving fatter numbers doesn't work as well.
>>736482962China is like 50% of the audience for this game. Do they like anime over there?
Ever since they added this I've always picked it up. This card is great.
>>736482089vantom is the only difficult act 1 bossyou kids wouldn't have survived slime boss and hexaghost on high ascension
>>736483374Extremely, a lot of porn and anime mods are from there
I can't even get out of act 1 anymore, I keep getting the worst RNG imaginable.At this point I just want to do custom runs and ignore everything else.
>>736483408hexaghost was always free as fuck, slime boss could be punishing for certain decks. played quite similary to the ghost deer in sts2. i think the crucial difference though is that act 1 is the hard part of sts2, so youre limping into the boss much more, whereas in sts1 act 1 gave you more breathing room. in sts2, a harder boss like vantom feels so much more punishing because youre likely on lower health will less upgrades and a shakier deck because the game is less forgiving about letting you avoid act 1 cards
>get stuck on act 3 boss>retry 30 times should i be doing this?
>>736483572>hexaghost was always free as fuckLmao.
>>736483404the power levels on these are all over the place. clad and necro's are insane, silent and regents are fine and perfectly serviceable picks if none of the other options are great, and then defects is fucking dogshit>muh darkyoure not using dark for scaling damage at a10
>>736483572yes act 1 is the hard part of sts2 relatively speaking but that's because the first game was harder overall. act 1 with silent was a lot harder in sts1>hexaghost was always free as fuckspotted the ascension 5 player
>>736483651you didnt even need to heal before him because the upfront damage scaled off your health, and if you couldnt kill him befgore the second big hit your deck was never going to go the distance anyway. not to mention how much he was trivialised by and kind of contact effect like thorns or static discharge
early razor tooth is insane
>>736483614Savescumming is a bad habitYou wont git gud with it
>>736483614are you having fun(TM) doing that? cause to me it sounds boring as fuck.
>>736480987you need a good balance of attack and defense, else power just outscales everything. Defect power decks are very strong still, esp with subroutine.>>736483659lol quadcast is a great card wtf are u smoking, quad casting any orb is good, and dark is a wincon. the worst there is silent, which is only serviceable if u are really struggling in applying weak or u have a tracking AND the other ancient options are bad
Change cruelty to take only 50% damage from vuln enemies and my life is yours>but muh colossus It would be only fair
Did they buff the Doorman? he went from being a joke to being a massive run ending pain, his damage is way too high if I can't cheese him in a few turns.
>>7364838960.5% less damage from vuln enemies, got it. Look forward to the next update in the beta branch!
>>736483918i liked doorman in the previous patch better
>>736457672What card is this referencing?
>>736483896I don't understand what this post is saying at all. Can someone translate? I've played sts2 like 100 hours too
>>736483704Very useful, but also sad that we don't have searing blow in this game.
>>736484065abooga googa unga bunga
>>736483404I got a little greedy and also drew 3 statuses so I ended up using my lizard tail on test subject phase 2, but who knew removing all my defends and attacking like crazy would be so effective. I went into test subject at full health without resting a single time. Doormaker would have been easier since I would have been able to use break more effectively.
Thats pretty funny. Imagine if I popped the x3 potion too.
>>736482790FUCK. D/ced.
>>736484065>right now tracking is twice as strong damage boost as cruelty with same condition >if you mirror its effect to make cruelty reverse tracking it would reduce vulnerable enemy damage by 50%, same effect as colossus only power
>>736482790Rehosting steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241078895253/76561198029311169
>>736484065Tracking gives 100% Vulnerability when applying weak, so you get 2 for 1 status on top of the second status being buffed. Cruelty is an Ironclad power that gives 50% more damage to Vulnerability targets, which is effectively Tracking, but minus having the added benefit of Weak.
>>736484230> who knew removing all my defends and attacking like crazy would be so effectiveEnjoy while it lasts, this shit does not pass on A10
>>736484187Make sense now thank anon
>>736484357Necro, are you coming back?
>>736484357I dont think we can queue without the necro
>>736484357I'm ironclad, I'm in the black screen rn. idk what happened lol
>>736484441It gave the option to start anyway, but I've gotten blackscreened.Third times the charmsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241079259128/76561198029311169
>>736484487the same thing kept happening yesterday. Blackscreen unless the person whos missing reconnects. Maybe his internet went down. Wait 3-4 minutes and if hes not here we can make a new game
>>736484349>>736484364Thanks anon, that makes sense. It could just be 25% less damage to match weakness too and be on par then, right?
>>736484364Tracking also stacks with Vulnerability as well, so even though Cruelty makes enemies with Vulnerable take 125% damage while upgraded a Silent with Tracking and both Weak and Vulnerable up would do 150% damage and take 25% less damage.
>>736468307It's in the description of the game on Steam, says it's set 1000 years later.
>>736484537It's weird they give you the option to start if it doesn't work.
>>736484364It’s worse than that, tracking and cruelty benefit multiplicatively so if enemy has vulnerable and weak then Silent attacks deal 300% damage(vuln taken into account)Cruelty its only 225%
Where do i find the chinese StS (be it 1 or 2) mods aside from workshop
>>736484585>>736484537Yea, doesn't seem to work if everyone isn't there.Blackscreen again.
>>736484371Once had a Neow bonus Primal Force, that run was a sweep.
>>736484646rip
While im grieving that Icecream Hang Music Box Defect run someone host another game!
>>736484606It's weird with regent too, the double damage debuff for the sword also deals more damage than you'd think it'd do with vulnerable.
>Flash of Steel from Neow>First room:Haunt, Invoke, Death's DoorIt's a slam dunk Invoke right? The other two are literal curses and that extra 2 energy means playing my entire hand.
What is the point of hang?
>>736484887It makes perfect sense, paper phrog and crane specify boosting values of vulnerable and weak, while other effects say “deal X% more damage”, those are independent effects that multiply with vuln
>>736485149hang leads to big hang which in turn leads to monstrous hang
>>736485149You eventually oneshot with it. It comboes nicely with a soul build since you will be able to quickly redraw it.
>a0 is easy and boring>higher ascensions are terrible and tediously designed
>forgot about orichalcum award>thought imbued shrimp applied to powers award>30 HP lost on bridge event award>didn't account for pen nib/kusarigama/nunchaku award>accidentally ended turn award>drew a card without having energy to play it award>used a card that interacts with the draw/discard pile while it was empty award>put a card on top of the draw pile only to immediately play a draw card award
This one is for the homies
>>736485953thank you anon and may I say, fuck the millipede
>>736485782For me it's >forgot to use my potion award>used a shiv card with almost full hand award >accidentally wasted a Pael Legion award>forgot about tuning fork award >took gold Neow bonus before checking for shops award>forgot to save energy for Finisher award
>>736485782>tfw i do all of this, sometimes a lotI never bother playing around pen nib and shit. I know I could get better, but it makes the games take way too long when I'm trying to autistically figure out the best way to build these up, when to do it at the opportune times, have the card I want to use the attack with ready to go, all while building up for future fights and block stalling for a few turns to do it without taking too much damage. Just not worth it for me, but maybe I'll have to put more effort in soon.
>>736486204In most cases you do that kind of thing when you have complete control over whatever fight you're in, leaning more towards AOE fights with 1 enemy left or something. It's usually not worth taking damage for it.
>>736482137I feel like the entire internet uses "overtuned" wrong. It should mean something has been tinkered with too much for its own good, not a synonym for OP.
Man I just hate when I have an objectively good deck (low card count, good card draw, good card generation, good attacks, good defense, synergistic game plan etc) but I get fucked by absolutely rancid 5 combats and an elite map generation and repeated worst draws imaginable.
>just block 30-60 damage every turn and he has intangible bro :)Holy fucking shit I hate this game
I fucking hate act1 eels
See that one copy of Grave Warden? That's the only soul generating card I was offered this entire run.
It's all so tiresome.
>Whats that, you're doing literally anything else? Here's 3 epic doom rares that do nothing for you>Whats that, youre finally doing doom? here's some awesome rares that wont help youT-thanks game.
>>736487509you already have everything you need. just focus on defense now and drafting energy/draw/graves for no escape
>>736487618I know, Im just saying I didnt get anything in the energy/draw/graves category.
>>736487509Holy shit snecko eye. I didnt know it was in the game.And of course I dont think I can use it cause my whole deck is onecosts.
>>736485953>Lose 0HP vs the queenIf I lose to this piece of shit boss for gay retards I'm nuking megacrit
Triple combat start no matter what path I take, followed by 25 dmg from the burrowing bug (no block/weak draw) and 25 dmg from the fluttering bug and then these guys.I kinda hate how hilariously unbalanced this game is on higher ascensions.
>>736485782for me it is>chose the random rare card blessing and ended up with something that is effectively a curse award
>>736487930Get fucked you assholeBack to fortnite
>>736483704and won the game after too. after being stuck on a10 with silent for a while ironclad is really fun because no run feels the same. with silent i always ended up with sly and the same shit.
Hostinsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241089890098/76561198029311169
>>7364886592/4 come join.
>>736488816give it 3 more minutes. I dont really want to go as 2
>>736487991Got a lovely little dirge + replay deckOnce again make it to act 2 get smacked for 50 first two combatsdieThis is fucking tedious bros.
>>736457672I will once they discount the game or someone pays for my copy(digital license)
>>736487991But the chastity cage is so strong... removing 2 strikes definitely helps more than literally any other act 2 reward..
Holy shit the bug really does fucking workTime to have fun
>>736489370You should just play custom runs
Bruh what the fuck was that run>Tent on first shop>Black Star on Act 2>Statusmaxx and Darkmaxx
Ricochet fucking sucks. The best Sly cards in my deck for damage were the 4x Abrasive+.
Wait, did they delete fucking caliper from sts2? No wonder it’s so much harder to tank as Ironclad
Copying your deck is stupid purely because power cards exist.
>>736462987for me its speedster
>>736489847I've had runs where ricochet carried. Miniature cannon makes it a priority upgrade that will hit for 6x5. And the rare silent run with strength or vigor through colorless options makes it powerful (like feeding frenzy or prep time). It's default stats do suck.
>>736462987Speedster not upgrading to 1 cost is a crime
>finally reach a9 for the first time>it's fucking miserable and basically have to relearn the entire game againnot looking forward to a10
>>736490378Honestly it's just act 1 Just accept you are going to eat some chip damage every fight
my ironclad undefeated streak continues
>>736490378A10 is just 2 bosses in act 3. It doesn't even feel harder than A9.A9 is the true filter.
how does ironclad mitigate the massive amount of self-inflicted life loss? Do you just bounce from campfire to campfire?
>>736490719It’s fine, they did update burning blood to account for removal of reaper and higher damage of enemies, right?
Maybe this start will get me somewhere...
I'm too retarded to play this guy. Can't get past A4 in beta branch.Tips plz
>>736490719>massive amount of selfYou're doing it wrong. You cant simply spam Bloodletting.
>>736491176Status decks are nuts, always pick Defragment unless you see a zesty Flak Cannon.
>>736490505the issue is that most of the time it's impossible to fight elites in act 1, the reward just isn't worth 3/4th of your healthBut act 2 is even worse, 2 elites are basically strategy filters and a relatively free triangle, so you're probably also want to avoid act 2 elites I've managed to beat a9 with ironclad, but damn I got lucky, it sucks how limiting a9 feels in term of strategy and it feels like nothing I've learned in ac1-8 matters
>>736491223
GGs. Holy shit Door is annoying as fuck. Not a single turn i could combo him
>>736488659GG
ggs
>>736488659GG. I'm the block clad, sorry for not doing much
damn regents sword package really is shit isnt it
>have insane silent deck with nightmare imbued with shrimp, another nightmare+, a bullet time+, an adrenaline+, a serpent form, 2 calculated gamble+, a shitton of draw, fletchettes, tactician+, etc>test subject>first turn manage to copy both adrenaline+ and calculated gamble+ with both my nightmares and get serpent form down>breeze through first 2 phases taking little damage>third phase, innate section causes me to use my 1 retained gamble to block the incoming damage, don't draw another>next turn 45 damage>draw my 1 flick flack, my 1 strike, 1 defend, fletchettes, and my tactician>i had 3 adrenaline, 3 calculated gamble, 2 acrobatics+, 2 backflips, and 1 prepared+ in my deck >dieFucking sick bro. I love having to block 30+ damage every single turn and then just drawing literally the worst cards in my 35+ card deck. It's so great haha! No weak, no good block, no draw, no energy, nothing haha!
>>736483614Savescumming can be helpful if you want to pratice a few card interactions or master the boss's dispositions, but if you're just treating it like a puzzle to see which order of card playing will let you "win" then you're wasting your time
>>736478846>Honestly the dopamine can't be topped in this game I think.Slamming a boss into the pavement with the flat of my massive sword as Regent is unparalleled so far. One shotting a phase of the Experiment or just skipping all of Doormaker's mechanics because he's fucking DEAD is just so good. But Necro ties for my 2nd favorite with Defect, she's got some neat quirks.
I cheated to upgrade all my cards and I still lost vs triple knights act 3 because of one of the most heinous draws Ive ever seen three turns in a row even with bag of prep, innate machine learning, and desmeneunfuckingbelievable. Game was out for blood today.
>>7364886173rd win in a row. i thought ironclad is supposed to be hard mode?!
>>736493409play on the beta branch and tell us how it goes big boy
>>736485149>card that gets exponentially stronger>character has easy access to drawing through her deck and pulling cards from discard
>>736493870Exhaust Ironclad doesn’t care about Doorman
>>736494019post your easy a10win then
>Urm, just block for 22 in turn 4, chuddie.Your response?
>>736484026Cosmic Indifference
>>736494380block as much as i can, accept it is what it is, take a rest if needed and still win. Yea im kind of a chad like that
Is A2 too difficult?
>>736494564depends on your skill level Timon
Experiment took a really, REALLY long time to kill despite my deck being fantastic because he went intangible every single fucking time I drew my good shit.>Oh boy both 0 cost Rocket Punches>NOPELiterally sat there spinning my wheels for 12 turns until the RNG gods let me casually beat him. Also Armaments and Crimson Mantle are really good cards.
>>736494772Never once activated Pael's Eye LMAO
The illusion of free choice
>>736494772>running perfected strike deck and draw all my perfect strikes whenever he goes intangible>didn't draw my big damage cards ONCE when he wasn't intangiblei still won but god damn that took way longer than needed
RIP, my ironclad win streak has been stopped by this fucker
>>736487991>sitting on two foul potions>scroll box, juzu, cage, fucking nothing elselmao of course you blame the game
>>736495120GET OUT OF MY SWAMP
>>736495120I don't think I can safely punish any of his form...
>>736495372wait, hold on, I barely tanked that. I won, I won!! Take that, Shrek! My streak is intact.>>736495541he's tough as fuck. I had another run that I barely beat him too, I had DE, in the last turn, I hit him by playing all my deck, took him from 2/3 HP bar to 0
>>736495289I had no potions prior to the event.This is where you say I should have hunted elites in act 1 or something right?
>>736492439>"breeze" through>can't take one big hit without dying>make a huge deck>mad you get a bad handascension and version brother?
>>736492413Stars for block means you can focus on building blade Its serviceable. Almost requires some way of making things cheaper preferably void formSummon blade is almost a requirement though feels very crap without it
>>736495839And no shop shortly after the event, so taking the potions was retarded, retard. You said it was a triple combat start meaning you took two foul potions BEFORE THE ACT 1 BOSS instead of an uncommon potion which could've helped.
>>736496090The paths were 3 combats in a row, or one 2 combats event combat shop. I went for that one and got the potions cause I went from 70 hp to 20 in the first turns of the 2 fights and I was practically tired of the fucking run anyway. I doubt any uncommon potion would have delayed the inevitable more than a turn or two at most.
>>736487991>23 cards at the start of act 2>even with the cage
>>736496332>Anon thinks he can win a10 with starter deckImpressive ngl
>>736496303Well as long as you've decided it's the game's fault, then there's nothing you could've done the whole run. After all, nobody consistently wins a10, so it's not on you.
>>736496429If you're not pathing to elites you can be choosier, but man you chose a card on nearly every fucking floor. Care to share a pic of your deck so we can see what you were going for?
>>736496496You can see the deck right above. >>736487509
>>736496651thats not 23 cards though
I'm quadboxxing this
you guys think a 23 card deck is large? how are you so sweaty yet so trash at this game?
>>736496809Now everyone's gonna think you're me anon.
>>736496651You have no block cards with decent numbers and no ways of ending fights quickly. You added enough cards that it's unreliable to find shroud early and that's your only method of generating halfway decent block. What did you expect? Now tell me it's not your fault.
Is there a worse starting bonus?
>>736496864Neow's Fury.
>>736496809with cage, he had 25 cards. That's a lot for the beginning of act 2 for most decks.
>>736496864Neow's Fury is shit. Would be good if it didnt Exhaust.The one that adds an extra Strike and Defend.
>>736496854>No block cards with decent block>Defy, 2x negative pulse, grave wardenLmao bro wants cards that block for 50 at the start of act 2 or something.
>>736496924>The one that adds an extra Strike and Defend.There are relics that can easily carry you through act 1.
>>736497065Negative pulse gives 5 block you stupid nigger. You think defend is a good block card? Your deck is designed to kill SLOW with doom, if you want that, you need above average block options which you didn't have. Shroud was your only shot and you not only didn't get any way of finding it reliably, you flooded your deck with cards that very reliably would NOT give you enough block to avoid the big hits you then bitched about taking. You built to fail.You don't want advice, you don't want to admit any mistake, you just want to bitch? Take a break nigger.
>>736497238Negative Pulse gives 5 plus 2 for each enemy due to Shroud which for some reason isn't upgraded.
>>736497367IF he draws shroud. I addressed that. I don't get what people like him want. They want to post a picture of their runs, and rather than get advice on mistakes made, have people say "you poor anon, the game screwed you, keep being perfect and you'll be award with a well-deserved win!"?
Can someone tell me the strategy for the mecha nigga being piloted by the little goblin?That doesn't boil down to "have 100 block" or a deck that deletes him instantly.
>>736497238>>736497448You can just admit the game is unbalanced anon, its fine you dont need to seethe so hard.
>>736497448i mean thats a disgustingly hard fight for neceobinder and necro never beats that fight by blocking you have to kill one of the bugs by turn 3 or you lose the run. if you're going to be a shithead at least give advice that isnt complete garbage.
>>736497526Anon, did you make any mistakes? And if yes, what were they?
>>736497574One of the first things I did was criticize him for flooding his deck without adding anything that ends fights quickly. If you want to jump in to a conversation, read it.
I've gotten pretty decent as Regent so I swapped over to Necrobinder. I've had the most success as a Soul focused build and using summon as a replacement for block but holy shit have I been getting unlucky. I'll have crazy soul generation and absolutely 0 cards to spend those souls on damage.
>>736497669all you talked about is block you liar. Idk why a complete retard like yourself gives advice about a game he"s bad at and has only lightly played, literally what is the point?
>>736494339>turns off every form of rampI hate fighting this dude.
MOREI NEED MORE
>>736497520He's the worst act 3 elite. You're probably going to get chunked at least once every time you fight him. It's important you remember that the big hit comes after the burn turn. You either want a way to guarantee that you'll draw a strong block card next turn to mitigate most of it, or see if you can chew through his artifact to inflict weak on him.
>>736497964>>736496854Retard.
>>736498043>Not beta
>>736498098I'm not a beta male
exhaust down eradicate borrowed time saved my ass vs doormaker, entropy let me transform an unplayable soul into neurosurge, vakuu offerings were folly and blood soaked rose but went with parasol because I could remove with forbidden grimoire
>>736498148fucking nice man, i feel like necro has a real tough time against the new doornigger
>>736497605Im sure I did, I played that run like 4 hours ago. But you keep acting like I intentionally avoided good block cards, cards to end runs fast, cards to help draw my better cards or find them quickly, when the truth is I took what the game offered me. I built the best deck I could with what was available. I didnt have potions because I barely scraped by the boss. When almost half the deck is block cards of some meagre amount and you dont draw any at the start of multiple fights in a row, there's not much you can do. There's only so much user error one can commit at some point.
MSGK Regent...
>>736498252I don't think that there are zero unlucky runs, anon. I don't know what all your card choice options were, it's possible you made the best choice each time and were given options that only got you a little further, and not the building blocks to beat two bosses at the end of act 3. Do (You) concede that given that there are people who consistently beat a10, that the problem could be (You)?
>736498269did not ask
>>736498252thats not even a fight you can block for more than a turn or two because you have to deal with the statuses, you win by being able to tank some damage while you kill one of them immediately, idk why that dude keeps talking about block.
@******493It wasn't an answer?
>>736498269me on the bottom right
>>736496864Neow's curse, lose all gold for 3 bricks.Draw in elites is ass and you won't even notice it, but at least it has no downside.
Hail to the king, baby.
The hunt works on any rarity of card, very cool.My deck is going to be so fat.
>>736499083Finally, a viable Forge win condition.
>>736462720Pick it in a deck with Jeweled Mask and only 1 other high cost Power. Vakuu making it 0 cost and playable on Turn 1 is the only way to make it viable imo and with that setup it becomes very strong. I had a run with this and an unupgraded Unmoveable. It was absurdly powerful.
>>736462720It is very good against bosses and some elites not so much for regular encounters. It's not the best form card but clad has an easier time playing it with his good energy cards. Even eating 20 damage to play it turn 1 is worth it but it's harder to justify when you draw it turn 3-4
There are people out there who think Vakuu plays your cards using an AI.
>>736500637Does he not? I've never picked that option because I'm anti-AI
>>736500912He just plays them left to right. Interestingly this means he plays innate cards first since they're on the left.
Please give me advice, I'm so fuckin bad at this game.https://sts2.fun/player/vague-hymn
>>736500847Whose thoughts are these, I need to know before I give them any heed.
>>736500847Absolute shit tier list
>>736500847>ghost seed Cactually embarrassing
>>736501038A Japanese StS2 content creator
>>736500847>Cleet above Anchor when most enemies come out the gate swinging
>>736500847>anchor >b tierbait
HELP
>>736485782Did they really add those to the game
>>736500847>emotion chip Cliterally one of the top 3 relic, confirmed by the dev themself in that lastest interview.>ghost seed Cbruh
>>736500847Isn't the helmet like +4 block a turn at best?
>>736500847mummy hand is B tier. thats how BROKEN relics are in spire2.
>>736501421Bomb is phenomenal, and with all that extra Defect energy you'll definitely have the chance to play it
>>736501393>>736501307anchor is still good but so many important enemies do not attack on turn 1 that it's just not what it was in sts1. Yes, I know test subject and scrolls of biting exist, but consider the doornigger, the fabricator, the hunter killer, etc.
I never know what cards to pick, every win I get is because I get carried by some broken relic
>>736501775I went Bomb before your post and it's been good, as I'm sure you can tell from this pic. Compact showed up at the right time to negate two of his statuses. Status is so stupid.
Astrolabe is probably my favorite relic and I am glad it made it into sts2. It did gives me drums this run but that's just the nature of the beast.
>>736498770>Neow's curse, lose all gold for 3 bricks.Or alternatively lose 99 gold for 3 powerful cards.
>>736502224Yeah but that doesn't happen.
>>7365017753 turns is way too long to wait.it should be 3 energy 1 turn.
Thats hot.
>>736502380>lose 2 hpidk if that's worth it, two bosses coming up. maybe just end turn and see if your next hand is better
>>736457672No. Not unless they officially de-niggerfy Silent. Not going to play it.
>>736502523Queen got oneshot, but the fucker almost got me too. First A10 win lets go. After like 20 attempts on necro today.
I LOVE SNAKEBITE
>>736502753nice work man, experiment is tough as necro
>>736502810>non-exhausting adrenaline>deadly poison+snakebite was merely a cheerleader
>>736502891Nah, Snakebite actually did some work, I picked it for Laga but it remained useful throughout the entire game
Reminder to ALWAYS pick Ironclad when offered another character's cards. If you think Status Defect is strong, you ain't seen it with a Dark Embrace in it yet lmaoooo
>>736502951You didn't bite the snake.
>>736482023The devs aren'tThat's why it's so rare to get the one other attack that scales off Osty's HP
>>736503004>Dark Embrace on Soul Necro>Dark Embrace on Shiv Silent
>>736500847I've had relics like kunai, pen nib, punch dagger, royal stamp and shuriken absolutely carry runs. It's also laughable to me that they put the feather in S tier, but red book and meal ticket in D tier. I think E tier for juzu bracelet and wing charm is ridiculous too. Neither are great, but they can be decent if you get them early enough.
>>736503524>Turn status cards into Fuel>They all draw an extra card
>>736503360>other attack that scales off Osty's HPthere's another one?
>>736496651>>736487509I think the second No Escape is perhaps a bit greedy but otherwise it's just an slightly underwhelming act 2 deck. No relics and no potions are what dragged you down there, but if your draw order is dogshit and you get unlucky matches on the first few hallways that's understandable. I think you could've pathed for an elite or two, you had a good matchup into the gardners and perhaps the coral even with a good potion. The terror eel seems a bit more scary with your slow deck.Sometimes we have a shit run, it is what it is. I tend to lose in the most embarrasing and spectacular fashion imaginable and then bounce back with a win for a pretty inconsistent winrate.The two infecting bugs act 2 fight is also hard, act 2 hard pool fights clap your ass if your deck doesn't overperform by that time.
>>736503734I think he means the Ancient upgrade for it
>>736503551you're hitting 3-4 rest stops per act but maybe 1 shop. I don't really think relics are about their maximum usefulness in more niche scenarios, but about how generally useful they are. I don't get the super high rating for the helmet, so maybe I'm a brainlet.
>>736503813oh ye my bad. I haven't even seen it in game.
>>736503734My bad, the other card is the Ancient's upgrade So you can't even get >1 Osty attack unless you get an event or the clone blessing
>>736503004i'm always surprised by how shit pael's meat reads but how strong it actually is
>gives shit block unless you've wasted energy buffing Osty>using the card saves you once but wastes all the energy you put into Osty and wastes your Unleash damage which is half the reason you buff OstyWhat the fuck were they thinking with this card? Maybe if he revived with some of his max HP retained it'd be worth picking
>>736504396Make it cost two and also deal damage
A8, here I come. This Supermassive colorless deck was really fun. I wonder how I'd need to optimize it for higher ascensions.
>>736504534Does the card even trigger Necro Mastery?
How do I generate a link for you guys to join my co op session?
Doormaker didn't damage me. Dark Embrace and Body Slam in Status Defect are the absolute fucking nuts. Shame I can't seem to find a Flak Cannon though.
>>736505002
>>736505112And FYI the act 3 ancient hosed me hard. Got Glam, Necklace, and Frond. Like yeah fucking sweet lemme just. Apotheosis would've been wild.
>>736505140Ty based anon
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241117971246/76561197964728969I'll host a beta branch lobby if anyone wants to join
>>736504396If you don't have spur its decent to have a copy of
>>736505464>Game no longer existsYou need to refresh your steam profile whenever you make a new lobby.
>>736505464Wait for 9 hours I will join after work
>>736505658something's fucky, lobby got auto-deleted in game, sorry
>>736475254>infinite blades More like infinite shit. pwned
here, i'll make onesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241119258151/76561199486452220
>>736500847theres no fucking way this isnt bait
>>736475254That's why you dodge elites, anon.
>>736498269I'm asking.
Is glow+ worth taking if I already have unupgraded glow?
>>736506151Did 2nd Silent just drop
>>736506151Rehostingsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241120063444/76561199486452220
>>736506696It depends on how thick your deck is and how star focused it is. But my latest (A10) regent win was a 27 card deck with two Glow+ because having 2 stars and drawing is that good. Beta patch.
>>736506696Yes on non beta branch, maybe not on beta
Star cards are free!*>*if you spend energy generating stars
sometimes it's hard for me to know when I should stop taking cardsthe card seems good, it seems to have synergy, but most of the time I seem to bloat my deck just past the point of usability by the time I get deep into Act 3that or I'm just critically weak to one particular thing, and even though I gear the deck toward beating the boss, I encounter enemies who exploit that weakness
>>736507137Ask yourself if you really, REALLY need the card, or if you can deal with the incoming threats with your existing deck. The tipping point is knowing>how many damage cards you actually need to kill the act 1 threats without taking too many short term cards and bloating your draw>how many (GOOD) block cards you need to balance out all the damage you tookand act 2 is the most critical part of this process because it's when your deck transforms from its infancy to its true form so being picky with your choices is keyit's easy to add "too many" of a good thing and then throw the balance off resulting on draw orders where you take more damage than you need to or you don't draw your attacks in a timely mannerrelics help circumvent shoddy deckbuilding options that you've been forced to draft into by giving you bonuses that allow things like thicker, more redudant decks to properly function (for example by bag of prepping you on your first turn, giving you free block, etc)
>>736500847I found it, jp bros...https://x.com/gasotamuallgame/status/2041078219345141958
>>736482023It's too reliant on specific cards, relics, and falls off in A9 and A10. If a boss breaks through Osty, and they will, you're just sitting there with your dick in your hand.
custom games with Sealed Deck mog the base game so hard it's not even funny
500th for artifact scales way too fucking hard in multiplayer
Act 1 is where you build a deck.Act 2 is where you finalise it.Act 3 is where you test it out.
>>736507137Sometimes being careful to not solve things you have already solved. E.g. if you already have a lot of strength gain on Ironclad getting even more will slow you down.
>>736507137idk what you mean by deck bloat. when you're offered three cards click on the one that improves your deck the most. if your deck is worse after adding three cards you probably shouldnt have added some of them, or you were waiting for a payoff that didnt come.
>>736507705And if you already have a Smokestack+ or Trash to Treasures+ on Defect, you absolutely need at least two more of each.
>>736507137Depends on where you are in the run. If you're early in act 1,>Is this card relatively flexible? (doesn't depend on you already having a build going. No picking accuracy with no shivs, for example)>Does my deck need help dealing with threats that the starter deck won't handle?>Am I pathing toward elites? (if yes, you need impactful cards early, if no, you can afford to be a bit more selective)Later into the run, once you have your tactics relatively solidified:>Is my deck missing this?>Is this card good enough that it's worth a greater chance of not drawing cards I already have?>am I already experiencing difficulty finding my core cards?Early on the name of the game is survival, later on you're just doing a bit of refining.
>>736507665>Mech Knight starts with 3 artifact in sp>in mp he starts with 25literally what did they mean by this
>>736507591Feels like whether or not you use Summon is completely independent to whether or not you use Osty attacksUnleash scales with Osty HP sure but nothing else does and every deck gets it for freeIf Osty dies during your enemy's turn that's fine, you get him back for free with your starter relic and all of the cards you've drafted do the same if he has 1 HP or 50If anything you prefer if he has 1 so Bone Shards gets value
>>736507665Only go for a debuff reliant build if you have a Silent with you so she can Expose them. Kinda insane that it totally removes all stacks of it instead of 5 or 10
>>736507880You will fight with HONOR against the knight, and not with cowardly status effects.
>>736504396Yeah most turns that card would give you 2 block.No idea what the devs are smoking when summon is used as block and isn't stacked unless you are already going to win the fight anyway in which case you won't need that last ditch sacrifice anyway.
>>736507885Yeah, Osty's in a weird spot right now. In the older versions of the game he could swap positions Necro which would determine who gets hit, and if he died then you had to manually revive him, even if you won the fight he'd stay dead. With that in mind his cards makes more sense,
How come if I lose strength Osty deals less damage???
>>736508285He doesn't
>>736507880>No character or colorless card has any way to resist or remove debuffs>Btw here's 99 Vuln Weak and Frail lol
The doorman just allowed me to exhaust my entire deck so I got to infinitely loop dark embrace with Anger on his exhaust turn. What a dumb bitch.
>>736483659>silent's is finepermanent weak in a fight is fine?lmao
>>736506742Where's my expose at, I can't do shit as Vuln Ironclad vs Mecha Knight on 4 coop
>>736509281Silent can already draw an entire deck every other turn so Neutralize+ is already plenty in most fights
>>736509401For me, it's follow through.Big fan of the aoe weakness.
>>736507880If I apply 3 vuln it should remove 3 artifact
Big Bully at the end for 350 dmg
thanks to whoever was healing me in act 2, the game was being an ass and not offering me any block cards.
>>736506742your free cards, siregg
>>736504396It's almost like there's a good reason the card has Retain. If Osty won't protect you from a big hit he's just going to fucking die anyway, so might as well eat him and avoid the damage. Also it's his max HP, so you can eat Osty in the case he's low after getting beat up, because you'd also have to start rebuilding him after that as well.
>>736506857>>736506841I took it and won, but the deck was slower than I hoped in act 3 boss fight. Probably I should've tanked some damage early to play Pale blue dot ASAP. Deck was very fun, stardust vigor build is my favorite right now. Now I can play the real game in A9+
I've only been offered the upgraded Necro starting relic once and I turned it down.
>>736509947 (me)forgot pic
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>736509929It's a one use emergency block that requires setup and doesn't even leave you in a good position. Wasting a spot in your deck for it, or picking it over any other card reward is questionable at best. It just doesn't have enough value as a rare.
>>736510007Post version you fucking coward.
>>736509814yeah that's roughadroit doing gods work for you at the end there
>>736510041play on the beta branch
>>736510115why
>>736510063You undervalue it having Retain. That ability absolutely makes some cards. I'll buy a Royally Approved just to slap Retain on a Flak Cannon.
>>736510069>post versionThe version that you can see in the top right?
>>736510141The game's balance is just better, though Goatse is a more involved fight and feels tougher.
>>736509760Yes actually.10 doom = -10 artifact.also consider bringing a silent along to play the card that removes all block and artifact once at 0 cost.
>>736510063The fact it has Retain means you can just hold it in your hand until you need it, which makes it super reliable in a Summon deck. If you have any cycling at all you'll find it (or just delay with Osty) and then it sits there as an emergency button that doesn't clog your deck. It's situational but it's not a bad card.
>>736510069current beta, it's show right there.I would've lost on A9 tho. I played stardust against mr bees without lethal
every characters should have cards with retain. Literally a fair draw effect
>>736510490retain just clogs your hand which is space I need when doing some big draw bullshit.if your draw is seriously weak maybe this won't matter for you but when I am cycling my deck to fish for a specific card with souls that fucking retain better not be the deciding factor between having the card I want and 'I have too many cards'.
>>736510157>>736510490Sure, retain makes is good for a one time emergency block, I acknowledged that strength in my post. But I feel like unless you're using it to avoid a bit of chip damage near the end of combat that you'll usually still wind up dead if you're relying on Osty and have to sacrifice him to avoid being one shot. Maybe I am undervaluing it and I just need to pick it more, who knows.
>>736510069shut the fuck up retard
