forgot how bad the second half was
>>736458073Only about 2 levels are "bad". Not 50% of the game
>>736458073pretty disappointing but still worth completing.
>>736458073
Why is there only like two good bosses in the whole game?
>>736458073It's not bad. Just not as good.
>>736460021this but when people bitch about DS2 instead
I'm glad they decided to cut Artorias' dialogue unlike every other tragic heroic figure From made so his mystery will forever be cool. All you hear in the game is his undead screams. What a masterpiece.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sASd6YOon-U
>>736460361Oh I agree.
>>736460361From what I have seen over the years, the wide split peoples in DS2 opinions if not just them getting it from a youtube video can really comes down to one question, How do you feel about the player character animations?If yes, then you can see past the jank moments and appreciate it for what it was going for and what is thereIf not, then it will be a constant subconscious irritant which brings the game down as things you would of otherwise accepted or not cared about, you won't give grace to because your already subconsciously annoyed.
"le bad second half" is a retarded /v/ meme.>Duke's Archives is kino>Tomb of The Giants is Kino>New Londo is kino >Izalith is shit, but it's short, and you can (and should) run through most of it
>>736461613Izalith was even worse on release due to the dragon butt aggro range and people not knowing about the shorcut.
The only thing that makes the back half of the game less memorable is the fact that its locations aren't part of the interconnected world: if you could get to Lost Izalith by unlocking a path from Firelink that led to a ladder that brought you to an elevator that led to a room with a hole in thr floor which dropped you at the ruined staircase at the far end of Quelaag's boss room, people would be a lot less pissy about it all.
>>736461776People not having meta-knowkedge isn't the game's fault, to be fair.
Meanwhile Dark Souls 2 remains kino from start to end. Really makes you think.
>>736461613>Conveniently ignoring the actual part of the archives people hate
>>736458073and yet its still 1000x better than Elden Slop
>>736462701which part?
>>736462267Insecure
>>736460021Are people unironically defending the shitty half of ds1? what the fuck.
>>736466595People have generally always like the back half of the game outside of Lost Izalith, it wasn't until the inter-game fan arguments started kicking into high gear that people started complaining for real about the back half of the game and the DS1 fans didn't correct them because despite being good it is weaker and so defending it came across a petty.Now we are past the civil image phase fo the discourse phase and so the DS1 fans aren't pulling punches anymore.
>>736466953>People have generally always like the back half of the game outside of Lost IzalithLol good joke.
>>736458073demon's souls is literally dark souls 1 but without terrible unfinished zones. yeah demon's had some bad zones like the valley of defilement but it was meant to be that way. ds1 had clearly unfinished crap like izalith or duke's archives
>>736458073Ignoring the swamp, there's no really bad parts of the game.
>>736461613I feel like it's just engagement bait at this point. It's completely overstated to the point that the second half is now weirdly underrated. You also didn't mention the DLC, which belongs to the second half, and is excellent.>>736462835Having to die to Seath the first time is kinda stupid, or maybe he's talking about the crystal caves, idk I always look forward to the Archives
>>736462835the crystal cave is fucking retarded and the seath fight is the most boring boss in the game
>>736458073Dark Souls 1 is the Xenogears of Dark Souls.
>>736466595Shut up faggot.
>>736467772It's not "literally" DS1 you dumbass, that game isn't even interconnected
>>736460361>trying to praise ds2contrarians gtfo my thread. ds2 was one of the worst games ever made.
>>736461613>duke's archives is kino
>>736467118He's right.The only bad parts of the "second half" are Lost Izalith/ Demon Ruins and the Tomb of Giants
>>736467772Demon's souls was a perfect game. It's a fucking shame it's tied to wokestation and never got it's 6th world.
>>736468101>muh le heckin interconnected world!another r*ddit jewtuber meme. I don't give a fuck if you have to warp to different zones as long as they are good. and yes demon's is more dark souls 1 than ds2 or ds3. mainly because of the gameplay, atmosphere and graphics
Why do people hate lost izalith so bad?
>>736458073Lost Izalith is really the only place bad enough to comment on, everything else is just fine.
>>736458073If Duke's Archives, Crystal Cave, the bottom half of New Londo, or even the second half of Lost Izalith were integrated into the first part of the game, nobody would consider them particularly out-of-place quality-wise.
>>736468238it had it's flaws like magic and miracles being either complete dogshit or the strongest spell in the fucking game that 1shots every boss. but yeah imo original demon's still by far the best souls game
>>736460021damn we need more in the vein of millenialcore callouts
>>736466595Izalith sucks, sure. But Nito's domain, the Duke's Archives, New Londo, the DLC, etc. are great.
>>736468357I have platinum'd the original twice and the remake 5 times. It's going to be the first game I emulate when I get the xbox helix. I also have some rare demon's souls shirt somewhere in my closet.
>>736462267Drangleic Castle is blatantly unfinished.
>>736468158this is crystal caves, not duke archives anon. you know because when you enter, crystal caves pops up on your screen in big letters.
>>736468250You're retarded and I doubt if you've ever actually played Dark Souls 1 at all
>>736468447I just finished a SL1 run last night .it was easier than I expected except for 1-4 and king allant. I died running to the boss fight for like 2 hours non stop. learning the enemies and dragon paths was a complete pain in the ass
>>736467772The zones in Demon's Souls are lame in a way that later games just aren't. The only fun levels are 1-1, 1-4, 3-2, and most of 4 in general. The rest would all be the worst levels in other Souls games.
Whatever, none of you niggers have even enjoyed the game unless you invaded SL50-70 Duke's Archives with Pursuers when the DLC/PTDE first dropped.
I like them all but lost izalith.
>>736468627This is the only pic I have of my "impressive" accomplishments. I've never tried challenge runs.
>>736468494both are terrible though
>>736468627based original chad>>736468842cringe remake virgin
>>736468297Because it's obviously unfinished, unfun, ugly and tedious.The Cristal Caves at least are short and beautiful to look at. And sure, they have little interest once you know them, but they feel like a real adventure with lot of tension the first time you wonder.
>>736468898You just don't like the dragon asses.
>>736468947Most retarded enemy design ever.
>>736460765>How do you feel about the player character animations?When it came out I got used to it but when SOTFS came out I was unable to tolerate it and I've tried multiple times over the years to play it but its just too much now. Sucks because I enjoyed vanilla enough to beat the game like six times when it first came out.
>>736461613New londo is alright everything else feels like filler.
>>7364686383-1 "prison of hope" was one of the best levels from has ever made wdym man.it was so good that they even tried to do a small "remake" in gray slop 3 when they designed the irithyll dungeon
i thought dukes archive was one of the coolest part of the game. the first time i played it i was a mage character and it felt like i was having magical duels against the enemies in the big library, it was badass
>>736469123The archives are like any other decent/great souls level, and any argument made against them can be used on any other level.But remember, these anons are just parroting youtube opinions, so don't expect anything.
Is there a working cheat engine table for DSR? Item swap isn't working no matter what I do
I played the remake of demon souls (I didn't buy it thankfully) and got bored after doing the first few levels. Then like a year later I got and played the og on my PS3 instead and binge 100%d it in a week. Something about the BP remake feels too visually polished while also looking off.
>>736467772How is Duke's archives unfinished?
>>736469682dsrgadget
>>736468627I saved up my money working part time in high school to buy a PS3 for DS and Assassin's Creed which playstation plus managed to trick me into thinking was an exclusive.That makes me a bigger fan regardless of how many times you've beaten the game or jerked yourself off to the Maiden.Oh and I don't own a PS5 nor have I replayed DS more then once or twice since.
>>736470134I meant crystal caves and seath fight but I don't like duke's archives either.all of the 3 endgame main bosses are extremely boring with boring areas. nito, seath and BoC. only 4niggers and new londo are alright
>>736470285Wow I'm a huge fan of tomb of the giants. One of my favorite areas in ds1 because of the darkness and giant dog skeles
The second half of Dark Souls is just as good as the first and anyone who says otherwise is an NPC repeating whatever he first hears from streamers.New Londo/Abyss: GreatDukes Archives/Crystal: GreatGreat Hollow/Ash Lake: GreatTomb of Giants: GreatThe only area that's not great is Demons Ruins/Izalith and even that has parts of it that are good like the temple.
>>736470378that patches event and reah my eternal wife are the only good part of tomb of the giants
>>736470389I think dukes archives could've used more experiments and variants of the crystal hollows, but it's a pretty decent area despite that. I guess aldia's keep in ds2 fulfilled that whole mad scientist thing, but still.
The real TRVTH NVKE is that DS starts to slide after the Undead Burg.
>>736458073If you thought it was that bad you would have forgotten.I didn't forget
>>736458073realize how mediocre the first one is
>>736470457The patches event is iconic, I just really like it when the game tries to put you out of your comfort zone or just annoy you. That's why I like stuff like poison swamps and traps. Makes for a refreshing change of pace imo. I like the variety of skeletons too. Giant skeles, tower skeles, dog skeles, baby skeles. Nito is an okay boss.
>>736458073people always say that but i always enjoy duke's archives and new londo (not 4kids but the area is fine). i only dislike the nito area because the runback from his fight is too long, the dark area is a fun gimmick IMO with several ways to mitigate the darkness. lost izalith sucks but honestly just the stuff after centipede demon/"lost izalith" proper, demon ruins are fine. i don't love the demon firesage fight but it's not the big of a deal, i always steamroll itIMO, the DLC is overrated. everything between artorias and the abyss is pretty good but i don't care for the beginning area or the abyss. artorias is a decent fight, but i don't really like the dragon, manus, or sanctuary guardian fights that much. i've just been skipping it altogether on my more recent revists, nice to not be completely overlevelled for gwyn anyway
>>736468883>Muh horrendous upscaled PS2 graphics
>>736460361No one cares about DS2Its irrelevant and not worth praising or disparaging
>>736469682https://github.com/JKAnderson/DSR-Gadget
>>736468627>>736468447nice. when the original ps3 servers were going offline, i did one last playthrough and summoned as much as possible just to get the experience. the servers were going down at like 3 AM and i was coming down to the wire on king allant. died like three times to him after summoning the same guy. found his summon sign one last time and we beat himwent down to the old one and finished the game. right after the credits, i got the "servers offline" message. it was a nice "last hurrah" moment
>>736470223>>736470667Yeah that works perfect, thanks
>>736470782>right after the credits, i got the "servers offline" messageabsolute eternal kino
>>736470587Damn, sanctuary guardian is one of my favorite fights in ds1. It feels really cinematic and fun to dodge all of its attacks, esp the lightning ball attack as it flies across your screen. I'm not a big fan of the dlc areas themselves, aside from oolacile township, layout-wise. But I like them visually and it's cool that this dlc is another look at darkroot garden. I think all of the dlc boss fights are really neat, but yeah biggest weakness would have to be the level layout just because I like more interiors and dungeon-type stuff.
>>736469070Didn't really vibe with me, for whatever reason. I think I didn't like how compressed the whole area felt, I liked the larger maps that felt like you were really mapping out an environment more.
>>736458073I think it's fine. I like tomb of the giants and demon ruins. Crystal archives is okay. New Londo sucks.
>>736458073>>736460021It's a well-known opinion for a reason.Replayed it myself not too long ago and the 2nd half immediately falling off a cliff is no joke.
>>736462267i fucking hate the gutter/black gulch. it's not even hard. just a slog to get through
