How does it stack to other McMillan games
MOVE HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>736460994i boughted the game and dont have this problem
>>736444995>I have never noticed Spewer getting a speed up because I down him in 2-3 roundsI love how Spewer defenders inevitably end up agreeing with me on why the fight sucks without realizing it, and their whole thesis is just them defending him to be contrarian.>No, you see, Spewer is a good fight, because every single time I played him, without exception, I basically just skipped the fight.This is like if someone defended a book because the cliffnotes version is good. It's like if I was a save editor guy, started Mewgenics with all 7 cats, absolutely BTFO the fuck out of Radical Rat within a round every single time, and then tried arguing that he was the best fight in the whole game.
>>736460994She's trying her best!
>>736460816>fun fact about vaporeon...
>>736460816is this cat actually in the game?
>>736442656>I think the best fights are the ones that make you play differently to how you normally wouldBy this logic, you have The Mother, Boris, Alice, The Forgotten Ones, Zapphauser, Fenrir, Chan Hung, Bloat and the Vine Brothers way too fucking low, brother.Especially cause Bloat and the Vine Brothers are really good fights.Correct Spewer placement, albeit.
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>>736460816>Must-playsSelf-explanatory. Revolutionary, spectacular games amplified by Edmund's unique sensibilities.>Great but requires patienceGames for a niche that require a certain capacity for bullshit. The End is Nigh can get relentlessly difficult and I think Mewgenics has a lot of high moments but has so many irritations that add up that playing the game can be exhausting and irritating if you're not built for it, and I don't think the design is ever changing to be as laser focused as I'd prefer it to be.>Good but with flaws/obsoletedI liked Bum-bo actually. Flash Meat Boy is actually fun but it's pretty much a lesser SMB with a wackass resolution. Flash Isaac is pretty much just is an underdeveloped, unpolished version of the game but I think it has more beauty and edge than its remake, especially in its soundtrack and presentation. >Cute little gamesIf you have a passing interest in Edmund's canon of games I think all of these should be played at minimum, but if you're not then it's fine to skip out. They're all cute little artsy games with unique mechanics. Coil is probably the most unintuitive but it's one of Edmund's most striking and unique artistic expressions. Time Fcuk and Aether are some of Edmund's most important and strongly echo the themes present throughout his work. Spewer is a little jank but it's a pretty novel platformer, can't say anything else plays exactly like it.>Only bother if a megafanThe rest of Edmund's work. I think the majority of this stuff is a mildly amusing timewaster at best and unplayably bad at worse. Yes, even Gish, which despite being the biggest game in this bunch is CBT in game form. Cunt is funny and Grey Matter has good music, that's about it.>Lost mediaHost was a multiplayer game whose servers have long since been dead and there's no means to play it as far as I know.>CollectionCollections with interesting stuff if you're a fan.>Not even vidyaMore toys than games.
>>736462429leafeon
>>736462679...oh, this picture doesn't include Fingered, put that in with "cute little games".The tabletop games I have no experience with, but they're probably fun if you have friends (I don't).
>>736462679Mewgenics >>>>>>>>>>> IsaacAlso, if Fingered is there, I can't see it. I had a decent time with that one.
>Got fists of fate+ a few times on classes that aren't monk>each time they absolutely decimated enemies>Last time I used it with a Necromancer and Soul Bond and a Pound of Flesh, 2 uses cleared a entire Throbbing Domain roomDamn, Maybe Fists of Fate+ could be nerfed for non-monk classes because this feels hard to compete with.
>>736460816it's up there with isaac/meat boy as one of his best games, but it's a very tiring experience and doesn't lend itself to replayability after the 200+ goddamn hours needed to set off the nuke.
>>736462817I feel like there should be a penalty for using an offclass spell, maybe that goes against the breeding stuff but it feels wrong that certain classes are just there to put their spells on someone else.
>>736460994
>>736461484>>>/r/eddit
>>736462679OG flash Meat Boy fucking sucks and controls horribly and should not be above Time Fcuk
>>736462774>The tabletop games I have no experience with, but they're probably fun if you have friends (I don't).Played Tapeworm once, simple but enjoyable.Four Souls is 10/10, I deeply deeply love that game. But can barely play it for similar reasons.
>>736460816Runs are way too fucking longRuns are way too fucking RNG dependent for how long they areI still prefer Isaac
>>736460994Consider it as a sign.
>>736463178basedzaratana boardzaratana sitezaratana world
>cat in the mutation room rolled the extra turn headAt last, I soon will be able to simply inhale the steak
>>736462790I just think Isaac is a much more easy game to get into and enjoy. Yes, Mewgenics is Edmund's magnum opus, and in many ways I think it is too, but if one enjoys the best parts of the game, the build-drafting tactics roguelite gameplay with a funny artstyle, they also have to stomach:>the intentionally unintuitive, cumbersome house mechanics>the restraint to not breed perfect cats to steamroll the game>the irritations of daily item management>the persistent need to gear up and optimize your cats every run to have the best chance of winning with what you have>the NPC grind to get basic features and amenities>the lacking clarity in tooltips and descriptions on enemy behaviors, items and abilities, some of which is outright intentional>the mind-numbingly simple event system which is a mildly flavorful at best, pick-the-greenest-option on average, and severely arbitrarily punishing at worst>the intentional progress gates and quests from Dr. Beanies, some of which are utter cancer to experience>the game potentially giving unwinnable scenarios with your builds, made worse from that fact that these failures can take away metaprogressionIsaac isn't perfect either but it's a less ambitious game and its biggest issue (lack of clarity in its item descriptions) has since been mostly resolved. >>736463097Time Fcuk should probably be above it but Flash Meat Boy essentially became SMB and it was cute to group it with Flash Isaac.
>>736462679I like your tierlist. Mew is really testing my patience but I'm trusting the plan/steakI also agree with >>736463097 though, Time Fcuk deserves to be at least one tier above, I'd even put it two tiers above in it's own just 'Good' category since I can't think of any distinct flaws
>>736463423>the intentionally unintuitive, cumbersome house mechanics>the irritations of daily item managementThese at least could be easily fixed with QoL updates. Although being aware of how Steakmund is and how long it took for him to begrudgingly add in the better descriptions in Isaac I know well only modders will likely be doing for a long while.Hell could even just look at other strategy games with resources for players to develop and copy the homework. With shit like Stellaris there's no need to memory what happened or what planets are doing terribly, you open the UI and pull a list and that's that. Likewise a list of what the fuck cats did during the end of day or of the cats would be a great convenience to make house management less ass.In the same way inventory could be made simpler with something like a white list black list of items you want to be auto-trashed or prioritized.And that's just me spitballing, actual codefags could probably come up with better
What even is time fcuk as a game is it a platformer ?
>9 hours into my collarless no npc run>got my first mutation>cleared the sewers on hard path so I can sometimes get furniture
>>736464023puzzle platformer where you can switch between two screensyou can play it right now and it's like an hour to beat it you have no excuse niggahttps://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/511754
>>736462679gish is great, I liked it more than flash isaac
>>736464215The fucking controls made me want to fucking kill myself. You are fighting the game more than actually playing it. Corners are deathtraps, and tying Gish into a pretzel and insta-dying are too common. I beat it and as I still did not have a solid grasp on the controls whatsoever. It's novel but not in a good way.
>>736462679>Clubby the seal>Cereus PeashyGod that's nostalgic. Also look at how far the peashy as come, goddamn
Man, that passive where you get to refresh your movement + get stat ups when you deal 10+ damage is crazy
>>736464152Oh we are fucking cooking now>first ditto>6/7 speed health is great>has a class skill
>>736464185I hate platformers
>>736464716JUMP NIGGA JUMP
>>736464748I can't even play tein...I fear that even if I'm a puzzle autist I'm gonna get raped by stevens game
>>736460816Mediocre
>>736460994Well, you can tell by the way I use my walkI'm a Kaiju cat, no time to talk
>>736464398You haven't even gone infinite. Merciless is 100% getting nerfed.
>>736464832it'e like 90% puzzle 1% platformer nigga you'll be fine, just GET IN THE BOX
>>736464716>>736464832It's way more puzzle than it is platformer, only the second chapter that they added exclusively for The Basement Collection is more platformer focused.
>Tinkerer has the Mage teleport (swap with anybody)>starts with Fuzzy Feet(electric damage when movement ends scaled with how far you move)probably the funnest combo I've had so far
>>736465849>used two abilities together in a comboYou didn't beat the game
>>736465849>used an ability that isn't inherent to the classanon why would you do that, now you can't properly judge how good these fights are
>>736465942>>736466041Weird posts
>>736465834>>736465750Okay I'll try it
>>736465942If it makes you feel better my Butcher is fucking retarded and has the passive that autohooks anything in his view. So he's basically launching every rock into his face
>>736466220Can you just spam the scat and gore already so I can fap or fuck off retard
>>736466220didn't read, seethe
>>736466220Why do you hate actual video game discussion? Do you get paid to make shitter engagement threads?
>>736466220>normalfag>slopStopped readingAnon at least properly describe the game you're ditchingIt's neither of those
>>736466220Why can't you use your powerful autism against culture war slop threads instead? We did nothing wrong and have been here for a far briefer time. Those fags have been ruining the board for 14 years straight.
>>736466584didn't read, seethe
>>736465834Does the second chapter have new story stuff?
Is it me or the Unreliable Shield and unreliable missile are kinda trash abilites?
>anime faglet me guess, anything is normie slop except my gay jrpgs
>>736466671trash
>>736466671Unreliable is in the name, after all.If you're finishing fights faster than 4 rounds, they won't even be available for some entire fights.
>sweating over C-1000 coming to town>I think I over-prepared.
>>736460816It obviously doesn't beat Isaac and Super Meat Boy, but it's still very good. Probably his third best game right above Time Fcuk.
>>736462679I would put Time Fcuk in good or maybe even great but otherwise I agree completely
>>736466906>not even hard+jeez anon, what did he do to you to deserve that?
Got the eye eyebrows mutation, it's cuteSpider fangs? CuteSpoink tail? Cheeto tail? Puffy tail? CuteThe fucking blue human eyes? Fucking horrible, my cleric looks like pic related crossed with a /pol/ comic
What would be a better class to use the jagged edges passive with? Tank to get more opprotunities to use the thorns gained or Tinkerer for many spells focused on armor?
>>736466974It was my first time fighting him and I'd heard nothing but horror stories.I wasn't taking any chances.
>>736466612I think Steven has extra dialogue at the end, but that's it.
>>736466975What's the matter?
>>736467093Those are cute, THESE are terror
>>736467179Oh christ
>>736466704Some of us animefags love Mewgenics. Don't hate us anon...please....I have 270 hours in Genics...
>>736467215They turned my cleric into a fucking Mormon missionary
>>736462679Grey-Matter is actually pretty good once you hook a controller to it, so I'd put it a tier above. Also I'd move flash Meat Boy to the megafan tier(the controls on it suck dick, I agree with the other anons), and move Time Fcuk one spot up.Also Triachnid I probably wouldn't change the position you chose, but I will say the game does suck at explaining the mechanics to you, but once you got a hang of it, messing around with the web physics is actually really fun to see what you can come up with.
>>736466975You guys still have vaguely feline looking cats?
>>736467383SEX WITH MARSHMALLOW
What class is first to get the ban hammer?
Am I the only one who fears about using items like Steven's Gristle? I might save it if i ever do solo runs but I don't know if I want to use it with a party...
>>736467018Monk is already pretty good, it gains the most armor midfight. A Tinkerer built for frontline would also be good, repair armor in particular is notable with jagged edges+, since you'll be able to instantly gain a bunch of thorns and still get your armor back, though it relies on your having good armor from your gear. Tank or Butcher would be fine if you just want to trample/jump on people, but I think that's easier to get elsewhere compared with good sources of armor.
>>736467558outright ban? noneHunter is getting nerfed, my guess is less projectiles in scattershot and only 50% damage of bounced projectiles from rubber bullets
>>736467501Hate to be posting frog but it really does look like that
>>736467045None of the house bosses are particularly hard if you know the mechanics and what to bring, some might catch you off guard the first time around but even then I feel like they're undertuned.
>>736467558I'm betting First of Fate gets hit hard and Scatter Shot gets a cost increase. Also Merciless getting hit in some way so it doesn't infinite with zoomzerk.
NGL how they do even nerf fist of fate plus outside of capping the number of times it can hit ? Opt but no hit restriction ?
>>736467558Jesters Superluck is too good and makes the endgame trivial. Blind cat? Nope.Bad events? All gone.Always crit. Always dodge.Items with a proc chance proc basically 100% of the time so shit like the fighter set becomes an instant win even with just one piece.Certain mutations proc 100%All that without having to upgrade first. Superluck+ is overkill.
>>736467794Make it not a basic attack.
>running future insane>raise dead goberbot elite with static charge as a pet (among many other pets)>get to hitler, doubled and madness + extra health battle easy>downed one hitler, suicide countdown, now just move my cats out of way>second hitler knocks up static bot, it bumps into suicided hitler electrying him >instantly explodes incinerating my entire teamIt was too easy up to then, so i guess i earned it
>>736467794Just change the upgrade to something else, the regular ability is completely fine.
>>736467794Maybe make it a weak jab that copies your basic attack effects?
>>736460816quintessential millenial slop game
>>736467980Fist of Fate IS using your basic attack already. If you have bruise wings on your cat, each hit applies 1 bruise, which just scales the damage up significantly on bosses.
>>736466906How did you manage 93 mana on the hunter?
>>736467819Superluck doesn't eliminate bad events because the game eventually gives you the fuck you bad event regardless if you get too many good ones. May only be 1 or 2 per run though.
>>736468371He's got this, and then I gave him the paper bag hat to make his charisma equal to his int.
Okay I got a good class idea: Witch>many games have them altering terrain to confuse enemies>familiars (frogs and such)>rituals to increase magic damage (such as self harm or inflicting debuffs)>hexes or curses, which could apply big debuffs if an enemy takes certain actions (eg the next time this unit moves/attacks/casts spell/ hurts ally/takes KB damage, then apply bleed/burn/tired/regen/shield etc)
>>736467682merciless is 100% gonna refresh movement action from base attack only, that makes the most sense without making it useless
>>736467672it's less that they're inherently easy and more that getting to pick the most busted cats you've created from multiple runs leads to combos that are downright silly, like projectile spam thief buffing catcher's mitt hunter or booster cleric giving gurgitator butcher dozens of strength buffs in one round
>harpooner>sniper rifle>bumpsimple as
>>736469170Well yeah, that means they're easy. It's all relative.
>>736467501Need this to be redrawn with these cats
>>736469170Yeah, psychic has the power up + braingeyser combo where you can just press end turn and they kill everything on the map, I never experienced the Hitler house battle because my psychic had 10 turns to power up magic damage and int and instantkilled every robot cat as soon as they dropped
>>736467819>this ability is bad because it trivializes the gameproceeds to list multiple changes that would trivialize the game
>RNGslop
>>736467794halve the chance for multiple procs
>>736467672Unironically guillotina 3 was peak house boss difficulty, before you have busted as shit cats and tons of resources
>>736467558Hunter is the most likely to get nerfed since it's good at everything.
>>736469937Hunter can't do melee tho
>>736470142He even has the Tom Tom summons to handle that.
>>736461540Not in the game game. But the opening randomizes the cat show and iy can be that, yes. I've seen Garfield one too. Funnily Garfield cat is an enemy cat in Das Future, where jumans and cats are fat
Edmund needs to either remove or nerf the soul link mutations, they're too strong. It's so busted that the rare times you soul link your own team isn't enough of a drawback
>>736470341>This diddy blud actually uses tomtomsFuhh naw cuz
I hope I can at least beat the rift before the nerfs.
>>736470789Synergizes with familiar teams
>>736470779we need an elite mutation that removes 1 stack of every debuff every turn or something
>>736470815Just do it right now
>>736470779>>736470925A modifier where you also receive any debuff that you inflict on it
Tracy's market sold Callus, kickass!
>huge range>crit machine builds>can summon familiars>AOE attacks>brambles>even has a ridiculous sleep dart support passive to make enemies miss turnsNo really why is Hunter so overtuned? Because its speed is a little low?
>>736471049That would be unwinnable if you bring in the wrong mutations, wirh no realistic counter
>>736471104It's meant to be slow and fragile, but neither of those matter when everything dies turn 1
>>736470993I still have to get zaratana to the core
>>736471112Just don't run soul link on every cat? Pretty much everything else you can play around.
>>736471184Then do it right now retard
I've got a problem where too many of my cats have way too low constitution despite the fact that everyone I think has at least +7 in each set how many cats should I try to be breed maxing since I think I have too many cats in the incest attic?
>the incest attic
>>736471394Just a balance of what you need at the moment. More cats = less inbreeding, less cats = quicker drift towards your goal.
nice how the corpse grinder changes their name if you change your steam name too
>>736471394With all due respect, if your stimulation is that low, I don't think you should be breeding there. One good way is to control who breeds. There's the statue that prevents breeding that is unlocked from Tracy. You can have a waiting room for cats with plus comfort for those cats who are waiting to go adventure. Your fightpit has negative comfort so the cats won't breed there. That leaves you 3 rooms that you can up in comfort AND stimulation and you can choose which cats you bring there for breeding.You need to start to make conscious decisions. Not every cat has stats or skills you want to pass on, so don't lump them into breeding rooms because it lowers the chances of getting what you actually want.
>>736471215Literally every cat in my house has soul link mutation, all 80+ of them.
