Why the fuck would you ever use any other storefront at this point?Steam is the white man's choice.
Cant wait for Tim to get mad about it when the average FPS count on UE5 games is lower than most others.
what's with this board and mentioning race in OPs for no reason?
I wonder how that will interact with stuff like vsync?
Imo steam's cut should be 20% but yeah they're incredible
>can now call thirdies with low specs retards for buying a game and reviewing it poorly for their shit specs>can now shit on game devs for poor optimization when the best hardware specs struggle to hit 60fps in these statsinb4 valve gets hit by a new wave of hitpieces to censor this data to protect publishers.
>storefront so bad they need to make a feature that shows if you can play their product or not>meanwhile Nintendo and Sony stores don't need that cause the games all workAlso saying its white mans choice while most of the users are Chinese and only 30% of steam users speak English
>>736463705Steam takes a lower cut based on sales. They also offer far more to devs, publishers and players than the likes of sony, nintendo, microsoft, apple, etc. who all take 30%. They also facilitate a massive key market where they take 0%.
>>736463491>censored slop that ban japanese games and 18+ gamesgoyim store for the cattle
>>736464590blame the credit card companies
>>736463491>Storefronts actively trying to sabotage game sales of their competitors is...LE BASEDKys communist, customers should be responsible for decisions they make, not some nanny state
>>736463491More developers are going to be publicly shamed over their lack of optimization, maybe this will actually force developers to optimize their games
>estimated on 720p, all low, DLSS performance, framegen enabled
>>736463491I hope that feature ignores DLSS.
>>736464893>informing customers is... le BADCope.
>>736465250You buy the slop you consume, troon
>>736463491I would imagine a massive chunk of refund requests a due to performance issues. Processing refunds is quite expensive. They have a major incentive to reduce this on their end. There is probably a cynical business reason for this but that being said very good change that should be industry standard.
>>736463491If a game is on both Steam and GOG I buy it from GOG because I'm not retarded.In those cases where the publisher is a cunt and only puts it on Steam I buy it at a discount, and only if it's a game I really really want.
>>736464939>maybe this will actually force developers to optimize their gameskinda, they already know being able to run on poverty hardware causes a game to sell like hotcakes.If anything this helps all developers since people on poverty hardware know when a dev optimized enough to target them instead of writing it off based on how it looks.
>>736463491Because I want to actually own the games, not just have a loicense and be a capitalist cuck
>>736464893>letting the customer know that the game they're about to buy is optimized trash>here's why that's a bad thingNice try Timmy. Keep obscuring that games on your storefront contain AI too. Make sure to argue for that will a food analogy or some shit.
>>73646365790% of posts are bots meant to spread right wing propaganda. Dead website.
>>736465410Jews are the ones who cry for government overreach>>736465481>AI LE BAD because it's better than me at drawing How's the art degree xis?
>>736463491>Why the fuck would you ever use any other storefront at this point?I don't support AAA. That and pic related.
>>736465524Trying way, way too hard buddy, dial it down a notch.
>>736465524Jews are the ones who cry when consumers aren't treated as cattle
>>736465740>Advocating for socialism because I'm too poor to own a proper PC
>>736465464>hates capitalism but wants to be able to own propertylmao
>>736465786>posting FPS statistics is socialism
>>736465841Government overreach is socialism, yes
>>736465789>loves capitalism but literally believes he will be happy by owning nothinglmao
Console store every game works, how is syeam better store if a lot of games don't work
>>736465882I didn't realize Gabe Newell is the current U.S. President
>>736463657>>736465510Jamboy.
>>736463491>>736463667>>736463797>Twitter liesStop believing in tweets, they are lying. Everyone knows Steam doesn’t update often to confirm it.
>>736465909>Console store every game workslol
>>736465941I wonder how he'd do as president.
>>736466021He donated to Democrats. Gaben would make a more kino prez than a pajeeta at the very least.
>>736465909>Console store every gamewhich games?
>>736466021He would save us from the sloppa industry.
>>736463491Storefront? I dont use storefronts you faggot
>piratefaggot shows up literally just to say how he's a piratefaggot even when it's completely irrelevant to the discussion at handTook them long enough this time kek
>>736465990Nice argument
>>736466131Gabe certainly has more charisma than any dem candidate in the last few decades
>>736466173>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST STEAL GAMES YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE RIGHT TO RENT THEM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOcuck spotted
>>736466191Why would a post this retarded >>736465909 deserve an elaborate argument?
>>736466021A damn fine job.
It even has Blue Archive.
>>736466254Whatever helps you cope, subhuman.
>>736466137If you're talking about AI, gayben likes it and thinks it's very exciting.
>>736466256Why type and say nothing of note
>>736466306Proofs?
>>736463963>Steam takes a lower cut based on salesthis is not a point in their favor...all it is is raping everyone not selling a ton of copies over the coals and letting those already winning needlessly win even more.
>>736466381Can't find the clip where he says it's exciting, it was a blurb in a larger interview, but there is thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPFctkKv6RM
>>736464590>black souls I and II both on steamnext "argument"
>>736466518When just about everyone else is a flat 30% no matter what, it's still better.
>>736464590Magical girl konoha and monochrome fantasy selling over a million copies say high. Also full rance series coming. Just make a patch and you're golden, zero censorship necessary, unlike consoles.
>thread is about something objectively good and people (faggots) keep trying to spin it as a bad thing and then attention whore how they dont use steam because they cannot help but act like obnoxious woman
>>736466712>Just make a patch and you're goldenchance of boomer lawmakers/ADL/CC mafia patching this loophole when they realize in 10 years?
>>736466518Well small devs are the ones that benefit the most from having a big store handling all the accounting for them.
>>736466727Consumer friendliness terrifies corpo cucks
>>736466727You're also gonna say "free" healthcare is objectively good too aren't you?
>>736466812The ftc just bitch slapped cc companies, so hopefully they now stay in their lane. The only thing valve probably needs a patch for now just to be safe is just loli stuff given its nebulous legality.
>>736466846nigger what are you even arguing about that you're trying to force politics into this?Let me guess "everything is political" to you? You're an SJW from the other side of the coin
>>736463491>the white man's choicearen't like 95% of steam users either russian, chinese, or south american?
>>736466587>need to be a cuck and lick the ground just to download a patch outside the site to play the game because they only accept a version with 10% of the contentwow you really refuted me! nintendo doesn’t censor games either! you just need to mod them!
>>736463491>white man's choice>chooses to be a cuckChecks out.
>>736463491That's only possible with massive levels of telemetry. Miss me with that gay shit.
>>736467119>nintendo doesn’t censor games either! you just need to mod them!show me black souls I and II on the nintendo eshop... exactly.
>>736466296How am I EVER going to cope with all this cash I saved and games that I actually own?
>>736466727Pretty impressive how desperately they lie and shit on their own self-interest. One at least hopes they're getting paid.
>>736466727i just cant stand sharing a board with corporate dicksuckers and volunteer shillsstorefronts are not videogames we dont need a steam dicksucking general any more than shill threads for other storefronts
>>736466846Yes, free healthcare is good. Only third world countries like the united states, russia and north korea lack free healthcare.
>>736463923You're so so so so so so so fucking stupid holy shit. You must not even be able to see why.
>>736467339Report the thread for "off topic" if you think that's what's happening and fuck off then you insufferable cunt.
>>736467249The patchless, butchered Steam version could easily be on there and in any store, what's the point?The only difference is that you’ll have a lot more people who don’t know that a patch outside the store exists.Also you’re gaining nothing by defending a billionaire company that thinks you’re an incel subhuman and that you should kill yourself for liking problematic Japanese things.
>>736467339I hope you shitpost every single famitsu general you see.
Marketing is gonna have to come up with a whole lot of tricks to try to game the Steam Performance Index.
>>736463923You consolecucks are just the dumbest motherfuckers.
Does this take into account settings and resolution?This seems exceptionally worthless unless its for the steam deck / machine
>>736467432you gotta address the root cause by telling faggots like you theyre being embarrassing
>>736467530Not an argument
>>736467461>>The patchless, butchered Steam version could easily be on there and in any storeYet they're not. Nintendo would never in a million years accept them.
>>736467535>he thinks he can bully people out of posting thingskekYeah, that sounds very productive and very likely to work, good luck with that.
>>736467554I do not argue with stupid people, only insult them.
Remember when Valve allowed this on their store
>>736467580>hey we need to download a patch (which could stop existing at any moment since it’s not on Steam) to play the game, but at least we’re not nintendogsStop acting like poop is better than shit. This is not the point.
>>736467534It'll likely be an average. Most people are going to play at the best settings they can get at a reasonable 60fps. If a card is weaker that will likely drop to 30.
>>736467715A patch is an infinitely better solution to imposing censorship with zero recourse. So yes, steam is better.
>>736467726Completely worthless when some people are ok with 30fps and others won't settle for less than 120fps.
>>736466131Can't be any worse than the pedos and incompetents running the show at this point desu.
>>736467786Hence, average.
>>736467818Hence, worthless.
>>736463491Yeah I synced my Steam with GoG back when you could do that, so now I own all my games on both. And both come with .iso downloaders and CD-key extractors for the games you own.
>>736467774In an ideal world, the game would be 100% of what it is regardless of the content, and you would need to download a censor patch outside the store. But sadly, Steam is a Western company.
>>736467341>America >Third worldYuropoor delusions know no bounds
>>736467867Explain how.
>>736467912Ideally, yes. But we live in a world where steam will get attacked for hosting it and consoles censor games directly, so patches are a minor inconvenience at worst.
>>736467965"richest country in the world", literally can't afford to give citizens free health care"richest country in the world" literally already lost a war to iran lmao
>>736468031Go back to playing your slavoslop and gooner novels, yuromonkey, the real men are playing MAN games like Gears of War and Battlefield here
>>736467339oh fucking please you know you're just a fucking contrarian you don't even try to be reasonable, you're too retarded to even attempt it
>>736467636those retards spent $100 trying to swindle people and they didn't even get any money from it
>>736467972If you have 1000 people who are ok with 30fps but high graphics, and 1000 people who are ok with 120fps, you have an average of 75 fps.75 fps is fucking worthless for someone who doesn't want dogshit graphics
>steam adding AI shitit's genuinely over
>>736469025You're an actual retard
>>736469007OK zoomie
>>736469042Raped
>>736469042Hes right tho
>>736468132Battlefield is made in Sweden anon.
>>736469007That would give an accurate range and representation of the fps from low to high settings for that particular game and hardware setup. I don't see the problem and I'm not sure why you're trying to make it one.
>>736463491>Steam is the white man's choice.Steam is like 95% third worlders.
>>736469267He just wants to sperg out about how anything below 100fps is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
>>736469267>That would give an accurate range and representation of the fps from low to high settings An AVERAGE gives a single number you fucking retard.If I demand games have a minimum of 120fps and I see that game runs at 75fps on my hardware, I'm not going to buy it.You're an actual retard>>736469323I literally used the player who doesn't want shit graphics in my example you brain damaged faggot.
>>736469364Looks like I was spot on kek
>thing that 99% of people won't even look at>throwing shitfit as if it will make 100% of people move to steam
>>736469364And what if valve gave a range then, would that satisfy your autism?
>>736469364Why are you sperging out over the ability to have a better understanding of performance. People desperately trying to shit on this are fucking bizarre. Reeks of more terrified console cope.
>>736469389See >>736469063>>736469476I don't think any system like this is ever going to work without logging the hardware, resolution, and settings. >>736469554>Why are you sperging out over the ability to have a better understanding of performance.I don't have a problem with this. Show the post where I have a problem with giving customers a better understanding of performance. When you can't find it, just reply "I'm sorry, I'm a fucking retard".
>>736469689You don't even know how this is implemented and you're already obnoxiously sperging out. Just calm your tits and see what steam does.
>>736469789I never made any claim to how it was implemented you dumb faggot. I said an average doesn't work, explained why, and you've done nothing but lash out since.You're raped.
>>736469843Yeah, I know you don't. Apparently you can't read either.
>>736469904>Yeah, I know you don't. Are you having a stroke? How is this in any way a response?You couldn't find the post where I had a problem with informing customers of performance. You're double raped.
>>736469843An average is perfectly useful for anyone whose hobby is actually playing videogames instead of sperging out about muh FPS or muh grafixThis shouldn't be a hard concept but you are too retarded and too far gone to understand it.
>>736469963No it isn't, I've demonstrated why and you have no retort. You're an actual fucking moron.
>>736470031Like I said, too far gone and too retarded to understand.Go look at some textures up close and complain about that instead of shitting up this discussion will you.
>>736470127You're so desperate to pivot to some other attack because you're completely raped on the facts. An average has zero value, that's all. I command you to continue to seethe over this fact.
>>736463491playing on potato as an option should be normalized
>>736469960It's obvious you have no clue how this will work, it will be easy to ignore, and yet you're sperging out over people merely theorizing for some asinine aspie reason. You're mentally ill, seek help.
>>736470239>>It's obvious you have no clue how this will work>I never made any claim to how it was implemented you dumb faggot. (>>736469843)Read, you fucking retard. I don't care how Valve implement it, the only problem I have is with your retarded assumption that an average has any value at all. Being corrected by me has completely fractured your brain.
>>736466518the industry standard is 30% literally every facet of media not just gaming takes 30%, the fact that steam offers so much to devs from forums, to servers, advertisement, and the fact they will take less money if your game is successful is abnormal. if steam died tonight and the only storefront was epic or GOG every single dev on the planet will shit themselves because of the lack of steamworks
>>736470349Meds, retard.
>>736470405You've been completely and utterly raped into submission. I accept your concession.
>>736463923Yeeeeah. But then you're stuck playing on a console. Why the fuck would I ever want to do that? Consoles really are meant for nigger-tier gamers.
>>736463923thats cause you guys accept 30fps (and consoles are still struggling to hit this)
>>736470419You sound like one of those dumbfuck tendies
>>736470487Good boy, I command you to continue seething.
>>736466727it's genuinely tim sweeney shills, probably bank rolling the lawsuits against valve as well
>>736469007Okay, and how does that not help inform your decision?
>>736470581I literally gave an example in that post you fucking moron.
>>736470608No, you didn't.
>>736463491>cares about fps>manpick one
>>736470625>75 fps is fucking worthless for someone who doesn't want dogshit graphicsOr conversely >75 fps is fucking worthless for someone who demands 120fpsLearn to read you retarded retard.
>>736470608If anything under 120fps ultra settings is unplayable to you, 75fps average should be a pretty good indicator you aren't hitting that.
>>736470709>If you have 1000 people who are ok with 30fps but high graphics, and 1000 people who are ok with 120fps, you have an average of 75 fpsYou're so unimaginably fucking brain dead retarded.
>>736466727Mindboggling how people are getting asshurt over it. It's actually kind of funny. The ulterior motives are strong.
>>736470703So the """argument""" with which you """raped""" others is that everyone is an insufferable, autistic graphics whore who can't even infer things from available data?Good Lord, you are fucking stupid.
>>736465909great 5 game selection you have there.
>>736470794>if I just repeat my retarded nonsense it will make it reasonableNo. You're being an idiot and you know it.
>>736470842>>736470890There is nothing to infer from an average. You have completely failed to demonstrate what value it has.You've been utterly raped into submission and have been barking like a dog on command for me.
>>736470915I mean hey if you're dumb enough to see 75fps and think that's not a good sign you won't hit 120fps ultra, you do you.
>>736471007Who said anything about 120fps ultra? Nobody except you, because you continue demonstrating how brain damaged you are.
>>736471053Okay, 120fps on anything but lowest settings. Either way, it's already a useful indicator for judging that.
>>736471235If you have 1000 people who are ok with 30fps but high graphics, and 1000 people who are ok with 120fps, you have an average of 75 fps.75 fps is fucking worthless for someone who doesn't want dogshit graphics75 fps is fucking worthless for someone who demands 120fpsYou have no counter-argument, I accept your concession.
>>736471290You have the tism.
>>736471329You've been raped into submission
Every single argument is"What if they implemented like retards and 1000s or People gamed the system for no real reason??"
>>736463491and yet this feature is to handhold brown poors that call everything their toaster can't run unoptimized
>>736471410ESL pls go.
>>736471397>gamed the systemSome people want the best graphics, some people want the best performance. This is so true it now applies to consoles. You are incapable of demonstrating how an average has any value at all. You're raped.
>>736463491>what is a monopoly Yeah see how you like that
Gentlemen. Allow me to make this simple for you. Consoles are for faggots, nobody wants to play 30fps, even the lowest IQ niggers. PC is better and our cocks are enormous. Thank you.
>>736471397His argument is basically that he's too dumb to use an average to determine whether he can hit 120fps. Over an optional bit of info he could just ignore.
>>736471525based
>>736471397>>"What if they implemented like retards"I never made any claim to how valve are implementing it you dumb faggot. >It'll likely be an average. (>>736467726)>Completely worthless (>>736467786)>>736471542You can't use an average to determine if you can hit 120fps. An average has no value and you're incapable of demonstrating how.You've been raped into submission and now you're snarking because you're terrified of replying to me.
>>736471525You can't even tell what is 30 FPS and what isn't. Stop lying. Consoles are expensive, console games are expensive, and you have less games. You have to also pay console subscription. Has nothing to do with FPS.
>>736471582It helps over knowing nothing at all. And again, you could just ignore it. You are stupid.
>>736471525>spends $2000 to play console games
>>736471620It doesn't help, an average has zero value (as demonstrated by your inability to demonstrate its value).
This is going to kill game sales
>>736471715Only shitty unoptimized UE5 games, Timmy in shambles.
>>736467636What am I looking at, some bootleg pretending to be helldivers 2 trying to trick retards into buying it instead of the real one?
All Steam surveys show that most users don’t have top of the-line hardware, so this will probably be more useful for them to determine whether they can even play the game or notIt’s not as useful for people who want to know if they’ll get 60 or 80 FPS at a certain resolution.
>>736471715If it were then sweeney wouldn't be freaking the fuck out about it
>>736463657Because, for some reasons, indians and some handful of others love pretending to be white (I wish I was kidding) and as a white person who doesn't care, it's extremely cringe.I don't need brown tones preaching white supremacism. It's probably actively harming views of white people and that's probably the point...Just leave me alone nigga
>>736472015you're so desperate which is nonwhite behaviour
>>736471654>pcs are only for gaming
>>736471715What???? My Pentium Duo won’t be able to run the new UE5.7569841+ game with gay tracing turned on?
>>736463491>DRMit's for browns
>>736472125Steam doesn't force DRM, its up to the developer.
>installs drm>calls it a "storefront"Ok, still not using your drmstill not given gaben moneystill not pretending steam owners are anything other than the console peasants of pc.
>>736472159Steam doesn't force DRM, its up to the developer.
>>736463491I'm jew and timmy is my boss.
>>736471654At least I had the $2000 to spend.
>>736472180Steam is the drm retard, and that's why you're a console peasant.If launching a game launches steam that game is drm-gated.What's your solution? an external crack? Fuck you loser.
>>736463491STOP WITH THESE MONOPOLISTIC STRATEGIESOTHER STORES CAN'T DO THIS KIND OF THING DUE TO VALVE'S MONOPOLY
>>736472327>If launching a game launches steam that game is drm-gated.Steam lets you ship binaries without the Steam libraries. Developers choose to use the Steam API / DRM I'm sorry you're such a retard you didn't know about this.
>>736472328It's okay brother, calm down! Epic, Ubisoft, and all the other small indie storefronts just finished a strategy meeting. Their gameplan going forward has been summarized in this gif. It's looking good!
>>736472413They give them a 5% cutback on the profit if they include their analytics spyware.
>>736466021there will never be WW3
>>736472464Proof?
>>736463491holy based
>>736463491if I want to know how it runs I will pirate it and run it as I've done for the past 25 years
>>736464893>not some nanny stateI didn't know Steam was a country
>>736470402>serversservers are cheap, bandwidth is cheap, and it's not like you can host an MMO on their servers>advertisementyou get maybe a few hours of spotlight in new releases, but it's up to you to market the game to show up longer, otherwise it'll quickly fade into all the asset flip games which steam makes no effort at quality control. >forumsthe fuck?steam fucks over indie devs and caters to AAA as they reduce the fee if you meet a threshold which the average indie dev will never get to.30% to do fuck all basically except shine their shinny badge. Not like they've innovated in what? two decades now? When was orange box last released?
>>736472603Blow it out your ass, Timmy.
>>736472603>host a game on steam>free cdn>host a game on egs>need to develop, support, document, pay for and deploy your own cdn Steam is the best platform for customers and developers, your inability to name a better one speaks volumes.If you don't care about platform features, then pirate. It's that simple.
>*crickets*CompletlyRapedInto Submission
>>736463657It makes non-whites that shouldn't be here seethe.
>>736472673>pay $50-$100 a month for your own server with certs/cdn or pay 30% of your profits
Timmy timmy timmy get fucked
>>736472856yeah at that point it really is just a financial question, which is going to cost you more
>>736463491I thought Gayben was supposed to do nothing?
>>736468023Why are you still defending this?
>>736463657We're just really stoked about being white. Like I'm a complete funking autistic loser and non-white women are obsessed with me and want to fuck almost immediately.It's hard not to feel good about that.
>>736473334Because it could be far worse than a mild inconvenience. The real cancer are consoles and outside forces trying to dictate what can legally be sold.
>>736472856Add on advertising, community, support, etc. Nobody else comes even close to earning their 30% like valve.
>>736473493Their advertising is no different from just doing a google search and filtering the genre you want. You really think your game actually persists on the front page for more than a few hours? You either have some marketing or you slide valve a few extra thousand for a banner.They earned their 30% by fooling consumers into thinking a centralized marketplace was the only way to buy games.
>>736473917>you slide valve a few extra thousand for a banner.You dont pay Valve shit outside of their cut
>the usual timmy talking points trying to convince people valve doesn't deserve 30% while rest of the industry doesConsidering valve puts their money into things like proton and fex, I wouldn't give a shit if they took even more.
>>736474009Weird, that's how we do it over at Epic. You sure gabe isn't lying?
>>736474054https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmAqBvUBOw
>>736474054kek
>>736466727The constant need for people to argue and ragebait is immensely tiring.
>>73646396330% was fair when being on Steam actually meant something. Today you've got about the same chance of getting noticed putting up flyers around your city. >You have to pay to advertise, dummyYeah but you didn't have to before and that was why 30% was worth it. 30% used to mean your game got prime exposure for a week or more. Now you put out a game and your release date is bookended by 30 furry futa puzzle games and probably also like a dozen other genuinely good worth-playing games competing with yours.I have like 1300 games on Steam but I can still be honest about its shortcomings. If I was releasing a game today I would put it on Switch (piracy somewhat of an issue but most people are too retarded) or else Switch 2, then PC 6-12 months later with some "special edition" since pclards love those.Valve is, per employee, one of the most profitable companies on Earth. They're the ones that started the shovelware flood, can afford to take a lower cut.
>>736474438>can afford to take a lower cut.That's anti-capitalist and very socialist of you. You need to get used to owning nothing and being happy.
>>736463491Because Steam doesn't give me offline installers and forces game updates.
>>736474438>If I was releasing a game today I would put it on Switch (piracy somewhat of an issue but most people are too retarded) or else Switch 2, then PC 6-12 months later with some "special edition" since pclards love those.And yet almost every dev prioritizes PC and not the Switch.
>>736463491>average FPSright and the baseline for this needs to be native 1080p with no AI scaling.
Imagine paying 30% of your hard-earned profits so gaben can place your product in his cuckshed then taking credit if someone mistakenly stumbles upon it.
>>736474438>steam doesnt mean anythingok, then why did everyone that opened their own storepage because they didnt want to give valve 30% like ubisoft and ea crawl back to gabe on their knees? because valve is the biggest platform and unless it is on steam, most people don't know it exists
>>736474438>If I was releasing a game today I would put it on Switch (piracy somewhat of an issue but most people are too retarded) or else Switch 2, then PC 6-12 months later with some "special edition" since pclards love those.What? The eshop is full of absolute dogshit and has virtually no discernible curation. The audience is also way smaller. Your gripe is basically just that steam has a lot of games so you want a platform with way less in order to get visibility and less competition, not anything that steam itself is actually doing wrong.
>>736474438steam lowers its cut after you cross certain thresholds you cretin>25% after 3 million>25% after 10 million>20% after 50 million
>>736466727Timmy is mad over Steam having good features, so he's sending his indians to shit up the place.
>>736472327>gog is DRM because you need a browser to access it ok, you have convinced everybody
>>73647443830% is fair because people are willing to pay itnobody is stopping people from making their own store, in fact many have tried, and came to the conclusion that giving Steam their cut is way more profitable
>>736474702Imagine being so disgusting that people would rather lose 30% of their profits than go through your own storefront lol
>>736474438>reee Steam takes 30%>I would put it on Switch>where Nintendo takes 30% lmao
>>736474438Steam still makes complete sense even if you get zero advertisements or even ignoring every other benefit steam has for the sole fact that most people will only buy a pc game if its on steam.Even massive companys like Blizzard who have their own launchers where they get 100% of the profits put their games on steam because they know that.Nothing stopping you from putting your game on some shithole like itchio or whatever who probably only takes like 5% or something, you don't put your game on itchio because you know not even 5% of people will buy it from that shithole.
>>736474438>valve doesn't deserve 30%>nintendo doesShameful.
>>736474438I don't think you remember the Wii eShop, which was full of crap.
>>736472180>try to run game>99 of games on your computer tell you to log insteam is DRM
>>736463569Tim's got every right to shit on Valve for this. All this does is promote biased opinions of games regarding trivial matters like framerate. Who cares if a game runs at 60 fps or 20 fps? The important thing is that the game looks good and is fun. Do you get pissed off at a beautiful painting if it's not moving at 60 fps?
>>736475382He doesn't have to, the current eshop is full of crap.
>>736475425Still up to the developers retard.
>>736475535>Do you get pissed off at a beautiful painting if it's not moving at 60 fps?Of course not. I completely agree with Tim that fps is a luxury and isn't necessary to enjoy any UE5 slideshows.
>>736475535>is fun>stutters in gameplaypick one
>>736466956>The ftc just bitch slapped cc companiesno they didn't>The letters make clear that any act or practice to refuse, suspend, or withdraw service that is inconsistent with the provider’s terms of service, or otherwise unfair under Section 5, may lead to an FTC investigation and potential enforcement actionas long as credit card kikes outline everything they debank you for so they're a-ok in the FTC's books>nonconsensual mutilation of a body>drug use and promotion of drugs>expressions of terror and extremism>characters that are or look underage (see height of consent, face of consent, and other monikers given to this bullshit)>rape and dubious consent>incest>bestiality (interspecies)>etc. etc. etc.continue being a good goy
>>736466021WW3 postponed indefinitely.
>>736475592>t-technically speaking 0.00000001% of games work without an account so it's ok!holy voluntary cucks batmanstop sucking corporate dick and demand drm-free games
Nintendo, Apple, Xbox, ect all provide more than just some grifting service. PC you've many options out there, but for being the "Masterace", they easily got suckered into a single service.
>>736475724lollmao
>>736475535it's not even moving, its stuttering
>>736466812>CC mafiaCC mafia just got bitch-slapped by the FTC over their little stint of morale interference.On top of that both Asia and Europe are working to detach themselves from the major US CC brands and their payment infrastructure, possibly degrading the entire Swift stuff into a second-rate citizen when the tipping point occurs.
>>736472470>>736475697Until the steam machine comes out.
>>736463491>Steam is the white man's choice.>feature is for poor brownoids that have shit hardware and can't read system specs
>>736475535s-tier bait.
>>736467965Your economy is in the shitter. The average income is so low normal citizens can barely make ends meet and your GDP is skewed-to-fuck and propped up by nothing but the Big Tech and Hollywood big-wigs, your treasury income is at one-eighth your outstanding debt and obligations, and the list goes on.The US is on paper, by the statistics, equal to a third world country.Also- if Trump actually finishes his melty and leaves NATO - then the US will also by the literal definition be a third world country. Because the terminology is actually related to the cold war era: NATO was the first world. The Soviet block the second world. And everyone aligned with neither was the third world.The second world is gone. The US leaving NATO makes them third world.
>>736475014>whataboutism>muh gogwow ,steamies really are cattle
>>736465390Buying on GOG is the retarded choice though. It's a worse platform. The only advantagecis DRM and that's a moot point with how easy Steam's DRM is to crack. You honestly lose more time with the shitty capped download speeds on GOG than having to drag and drop one file into the game folder on Steam.
>>736474602They actually amended the beta branch functionality to now also formally cover availability of older versions. Which means the ball is in the court of the individual publishers refusing to use that to keep older versions available to consumers.
>>736471397>What if they implemented like retardsIt's Valve. Virtually everything they implement, they implement like retards. The only shit on Steam that actually works well is the shit they pay other people to do for them, like Proton
>>736463923This one really got the PClards mad holy shit. I have a midrange desktop and a PS5. When I have a strong feeling a game will run like ass on the former, I get it on the latter where it tends to run more stabily despite potentially weaker hardware.
>>736476062>Valve took decades to add a very standard feature >countless devs have gone defunct or lost older versions in the meantime>only a fraction of devs left to take advantage of it>but Volvo eventually did it, so their hands are cleanLovely>it's still optional, so many won't know of it or use it>Valve isn't actively pushing developers to use this consumer-friendly feature>but Valve will push other things to fuck over people, like Steamworks for online services, and Steam Workshop with the option to license-lock the downloadsWonderful
95% of the time for indie developers it's just letting valve do it, servers as not as cheap to keep up as that anon is saying, he's just talking out of his ass
>>736472327while you are technically correct, that would also include every single storefront in existence including gog unless you keep an archive back up nas of every game you have downloaded, but i doubt you actually do that. but drm as people usually refer to is the software that actually prevents you from launching games without a license which valve does not include by default
>Steam is the white man's choice.
>>736476465And who owns 41% of Epic, Timmy?
>>736476465LmfaoAll the computer shills are starting to make sense. Make shitty Chinese computer that craps out in five years, shill shitty Chinese computer that craps put in five years. Incredible.
>>736476636anon.... where do you think consoles are made....
>>736463491>capcom forcing enigma shit into their games>same games on GOG don't have itMostly because of bullshit like this.If steam is the white man's choice, then as far as some companies like capcom goes, GOG is the straight un-cucked man's choice.
>>736463569Somehow I believe he'll go like"Showing that a game will perform badly on customer's PC is anti-developer" or some shit and cry "negative marketing"
>Sega takes down Persona 4 Golden to force me to buy their upcoming shit demake
>>736463491I chose not to use any store front and pirate everything.
>>736466846Free healthcare is good, but it doesn't exist, except in Israel because another country pays for their healthcare so it's technically still not free
>>736465882so everyone should leave steam and valve ALONE and let them do what they want since they aren't a GOVERNMENT?
>>736463923Shut the fuck up you consoleretard, i will continue to buy current gen games without being sure if my machine can run it, and if it can't i will blame the game for not being optimized for the trillions of combinations of specs possible on PCs
>>736466134You can open the Nintendo/PlayStation store right now and look for yourself. There are thousands of games there. In fact most games that you play on PC are available for consoles as well, unless you play some indie pixelshit that no one knows about or lol porn games lmao even
>>736476060>The only advantage is that it's DRM-free and that's a moot pointshalom
so where does that estimation of "similar systems" data coming from :^)
>>736477835From people that opt-in to participate, just like the monthly hardware survey.
>>736476060GOG fucking sucks I hate the installer and the Icons.. and where it wants to install the data to. I don't even get cheevos.
>>736477989>get offline installer>no internet connection requried>no retarded achievements to distract you>not tied to online servicesonly positives
>>736463491its a harmful monopoly
>>736463657I love being White, European and the descendant of colonizers.This fact makes a lot of "people" seethe
>>736475535>Who cares if a game runs at 60 fps or 20 fps?holy shit a skinwalker in real life
>>736463491>aislop guesstimate
>>736478485zased retard
>>736478453This was literally consolecucks 10 years ago.
>>736467461>a billionaire company that thinks you’re an incel subhuman and that you should kill yourself for liking problematic Japanese things.They're absolutely correct. In more civilized times, braindamaged pedo masturbators like you would be executed.
>>7364785421.Valve doesn't give a shit unless it hurts their bottom line2.YWNBAW
>>736463491Thanks Gabe
>>736472327Steam is the same as buying a CD or DVD without copy protection back in the old days. I can download DOS2, put it on a USB stick, and keep it forever. You need Steam to download it, but not to play it. It is the choice of most publishers to put DRM on their games.If Steam is DRM, then a physical store is DRM too.
>cockblocking big name publishers from trying to sell you unoptimized garbagePraise be GabeN
I don't install CIA spyware
>>7364755357/10 bait, but ya blew it with that last sentence.
>>736475535You're allowed to care about any aspect of a creative work you wish. It's not on the creator to prescribe what the viewer should and shouldn't care about. A painter would be unreasonable to get mad at a viewer for complaining that they used Pthalo Blue instead of Ultramarine Blue. The painter might not think that's not a reasonable criterion to have a preference for, but that viewer could tell the difference and still express their preference either way.
>>736478749You shouldn't have responded to him, but..Physical stores aren't DRM.They're PRM.
>>736478749>y-you see, they technically don't force them>but steam implements sign in as drm>99.99999% of games requires it as wellit's drm
>>736480309>but steam implements sign in as drmif a steam game does not have the steamworks drm then you do not need to sign in to play it
>>736480598you're the kind of cocksucker that defends (((play integrity))) because "it up devs to tick the checkbox to activate it" (which google facilitated by turning it into a 1-click toggle)stop defending kikery
>>736463491Can't wait to hear what Timmy Tencent and Randy Bitchford have to seethe about this.
>>736480832Can't wait for Tim to spew something along the line of>10 FPS is the future of gaming
>>736480904>24FPS is good enough because movies were in 24FPS.
>>736481516>frame generation turns it into 60 anyways
>>736463491>Steam is the white man's choice.Post hand, "hwhyte"
>>736481640its written as "huwhyte" if you going to meme, meme right.
>>736481516Is this still the case btw? I'm pretty sure even movies are starting to do 60 fps nowadays.
I just uninstalled Epic because I realized I don't even want the free games. I would rather pirate and buy the games I really like on steam than having free games on Epic.
>>736481678It's hwight.
>>736463491I wonder if this will cause developers to implement static loading screens with completely uncapped frame rates, to like skew the average.
>>736481692Its an old meme anon and not sure if people are caring about new movies. Most of them suck a bag of dicks and are just propaganda.
>>736481516>olden days movies were rolling at an unsteady 16 FPS and it was good enough for people then
>>736463491Won't somebody think of the poor indie devs who can't afford all these frames!
Why can't they just optimize games like they used to?I remember when Crysis came out I was able to play it on max setting on my shitty HP laptop with stable FPSWhy can't they just optimize games like they used to? They literally did this 20 years ago with inferior technology so why can't they do something now that they did 20 years ago? what happened?
>>736482012you spelt indian wrong
How come this is the only board who sucks corpo cock this much? You don't see this behavior in other boards who shill drm stores and actively condemn piracy.
>>736482012indie games shouldn't be running badly unless they're chunky simulators like TABS with tons of units on screen
>>736481973>movies were in black and white with text instead of sounds for spoken lines; you just wouldn't get it.
>>73648169224 fps is still the standard for movies and the rare ones that use higher framerates (like avatar or the hobbit) use 48 fps so it can cut to 24 fps footage by just showing every frame twice
you could benchmark a 5090 and a 9070xt and estimate everyone else's performance based on the proportions of performance every other card getshow the fuck do contrarian niggers get upset over something like this?
>>736482267literally everything steam does is pure monopoly behavior. they can't be allowed to get away with this!
>>736482148private corporate isn't the same as publicly owned corpo cock anon. Think of it like this:>Publicly traded Company: Free-Use Whore With STDs attached.>Privately owned Company: self-maintained high-class lady of noble birth.Which one you think is the better choice if both are available to you?
>>736482334actual botthis site is so fucking dead
>>736482374>Noo you must pirate and destroy the economy in the west!!!! REE!!!Vermin Jeeticus.
>>736482068speaking of which, why can't they land on the moon anymore when we did it like 50 years ago? Why the fuck can't we do anything that we used to do many years ago when we now have better technology and more manpower
>>736482446You will burn in hell shill
>>736482068>Why can't they just optimize games like they used to?because>need to sell newest shiniest hardware. higher reqs = more hardware sales>optimizations of any kind cost money>game devs are paid only to ship playable games. zero incentive to go beyond that>most of the competent people capable of optimizing were replaced by jeets>you'll buy it anyway
>>736482462Because moon landing then was just a dick measuring contest with no actual goal.Now it's just having no actual goal so we don't do it.Oh and space travel is still just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, we've just gotten better at throwing.
>>736463657Psyop to get white guys to do things
>>736475535>Do you get pissed off at a beautiful painting if it's not moving at 60 fps?Impeccable
>>736482068because everything nvidia has done in the past 8 years has lowered the barrier of entry to game development and allowed more jeets indlss? makes games easier to run thus giving developers more leeway in bloating the gameframe gen? you devalued the point of framerate with motion blur that shouldn't even countraytracing? makes it easier to light everything up at the cost of making the customer pay for itdlss5 is going to completely bulldoze the artistry required to make games
>>736463491>2026>still can't open multiple store tabswhy?
>>736482068>I remember when Crysis came out I was able to play it on max setting on my shitty HP laptop with stable FPSpff yeah right lmao
>>736482482>you'll buy it anyw-
>>736465959>Steam doesn’t update often to confirm it
>>736482469you're gonna boil in the pot next to him for being a thief but alright
>>736482148>good service is bad because i'm mindbroken about itgo fuck yourself aquajeet
>>736482746you can if you enable it in one of the inis. It's not a public option because otherwise they'd get flooded with jeets and browns opening up a million tabs then complaining steam runs as bad as Epic
>>736463491>Muh white menReminder that almost 70% of white men in america voted for TrumpA hyper corrupt pedophile rapist psychopath destroying the entire world's economyThat's the level of intelligence and morality of the average white man
>>736483019>be american>have choice between two hyper corrupt pedophile rapist psychopath destroying the entire world's economy>only difference is one wears blue the other wears red>post about it on /v/ instead of /pol/
>>736483019Did some white guy fucked your girlfriend or something?
>>736463667They can track frametime not just frame rate. Give games a frametime health score like Gamers Nexus. Better score means more optimized game.
>>736483019That's more of a problem with american politics in general though
>>736466518Yes, it is. There's base cost for every game, and then a lower, second scaling cost for copies sold. 30% catches the games with high base cost relative to total revenue. Once the base cost disappears in the scaling cost for copies sold, the rate goes down.
Why is half the thread about games and the other half about pol shit
>>736483019democracy is a sham if trump had interests of white people in mind he would have pulled jan 6 but with army instead of sending them to die in the middle east for jewish interests
>>736463657Ruzzian/Chink/Arab divide and conquer tactics.
>>736483086Or you can stop being a cuck and actually vote for someone else or just overthrow your psychopath oligarchic dictatorship instead of paying for the bombing and starving out of those who overthrew your pedo puppets elsewhereAlso >Muh racebaiting is okay on /v/, but criticising racebaitfags is muh /pol/Choke on a dick manipulative faggot
>>736483365>newfag can't handle the bantzb2r
>>736483431>I was just pretending to be retarded!
>>736475535SS-tier bait
>>736483531You're just throwing out buzzphrases you've seen people on the 4chans use without understanding them yourself.Kindly go back to wherever you came from, newfriend.
>>736463491>not a monopoly btw
>>736483616You can stop now.
>>736483431>NewfagIronic considering worms like you were told to fuck off back to /pol/ in the first couple posts back thenEveryone knew here that place is a cesspool of retarded sheep and it being exposed that Moot created that board on the request of fucking Epstein to groom and radicalize stupid kids couldn't be funnier, but then all the retarded newfags like you thought /pol/fagging was always some general 4chin culture
>>736483663You're free to sell your games elsewhere at any time.
>>736483663>Company adds a consumer friendly feature>OMG THIS IS A MONOPOLY!The fuck is your problem?
>>736483684>comes in thread with /pol/shit>accuses others of /pol/shitlook how the newfag recoils when you name them
>>736475535I don't buy paintings
>>736483684Haha, you're a massive fag
>>736483737Scammers have rights too, you know!>mfw there are elderlies not being robbed right now
>>736477734Try reading the rest of the post. I hate DRM too but Steam's might as well not exist with how easy it is to crack.
>>736465242It does, the Steam FPS counter can tell the difference between real and fake frames
>>736485639That's so luddite. DLSS frames are just as good as real frames.
I just go to a price comparison site and buy wherever it's cheapest (which is inevitably a steam key from Green Man or WinGameStore).
>>736485139>how easy it is to crack.NTA, but always keep in mind that Valve can go 180° on that. Steam "cracks" since the past 10-15 years have almost exclusively been the Goldstein steam emulator, which pretty much killed the entire cracking scene because there was no need to crack games anymore. They just have to repack the emulator dll with some branded ini and that's it. At any point in time Valve can just decide to ban everyone that has ever run a cracked game like that, because the goldstein emulator dll does interface with any concurrent Steam running, so Steam knows about it even if you don't launch the cracked game through Steam.That's why I would dissuade anyone from saying how easy it is to crack Steam games, because if you do too much of this bragging then Steam will absolutely do something about that. The same goes for ragebaiting on Steam forums for awards, which is also ruined now because too many people couldn't keep their mouth shut. The same will happen to player numbers on Steam if people can't keep their mouth shut, etc. Or an even more appropriate example is that people couldn't shut the fuck up about adblocking so now google is hellbent on completely destroying it
>>736466021He would do nothingAnd the US would win
>>736485898>NTA, but always keep in mind that Valve can go 180° on thatTrue, but that won't affect you if you have the games backed up. GOG can similarly revoke your downloading access and it'll only affect you if you haven't backed up your games.>That's why I would dissuade anyone from saying how easy it is to crack Steam games, because if you do too much of this bragging then Steam will absolutely do something about that.Yeah that's a good point.
worthless if this takes into account dlss and frame gen garbage
>>736475535Hi Tim.
>>736466727That's the problem with discussing video games on /v/. Every single fucking thread has atleast one faggot contrarian saying the most bullshit out of his ass reasons to oppose to popular sentiment to bait replies, it always works, and now the thread is derailed by people arguing with an obvious brick wall. People should know better than to take this shit seriously if this nigger is calling "FPS Preview" communism, you were never going to win an argument with someone pretending to be retarded.
>>736485898No one cares about your wall of text, Tim. Go seethe in the corner
>>736463491GOG games are DRM-free and don't require me to use a shitty game client which consumes 1GB of memory just to install or play games. Offline installers are superior.
>>736463923>Nintendo and Sony>the games all workExcept they don't. Snoy and Shitendo consoles are limited to playing maybe 2% of all games out there. PC is the only gaming platform where you can play most games in existence even if you have a $400 PC. Even the Chinese handhelds (Retroid, Anbernic, Ayn) are better than consoles since they have bigger libraries at a fraction of the price.
>>736487489>can't afford 1GB of memoryGOG users are 3rd worlders
>>736487489>cries about memoryso you're on linux right? it's not just performative?
>>736487690>why are you mad i took a piss on your leg? can't afford a towel, poor much?
>>736487690Nigger I have 64GB RAM. I don't want it to be wasted by a useless client I don't need.Also you're deliberately missing the point that Steam is not a platform if you care about owning what you buy. If you're wasting any money on Steam you're retarded. I'd rather be called a 3rd worlder than be retarded enough to pay for things I won't ultimately own.>>736487785I am. But you're also missing the main complaint I have with Steam. I don't want a fucking client micromanaging what I'm allowed to install or play. If I wanted that I'd buy a fucking PS5 digital edition.If I pay for a game I want to own it with no DRM service constantly fucking me in the ass.
>>736487647>most gamesYes everything except new games. WOAAHH—now this is gaming!!! Emulating a 2D Mario never felt so GAMER!!
>>736463491DENUVO on suicide watch, there's no hiding it anymore.
>Wow thread about a nice feature >madling and seething about 7 different things
>>736463491>They add this in but not a price tracker
>>736488109There's less than a dozen games released each year that are actually worth playing. And everything worth playing is playable on a PC. I couldn't care less about some shitty Switch 2 or especially PS5 exclusive since I can already play hundreds of 10/10 games. There's already enough good games out there to last you a lifetime even if you're limited to a PC or a handheld which can't play almost anything 3D released past 2020.
