The remake is going to censor and ruin everything.
>>736468368looking forward to new translation foibles making people realize that original release also had a bunch of weird and pointless changes (even besides honorifics)P.S. why is it not P4Rewind holy fuck what a dropped ball it's even obvious in engrish how did nips miss that
>>736468368Yes, therefore P4R will be the best. Fuck Inaba and fuck main cast. Adachi is right about everything.
>>736468492You can't rewind a TV program tard, it should be P4Rerun or P4Rerecord
What are they replacing the ugly fat girl with?
>>736468368yeah. and we're going to get a 4th Chie Voice Actor, after each of the first 3 had completely different interpretations of who she wasIt'll be interesting to see what direction Chie 4 will be taken in. Chie 1 was the super levelheaded voice of reason, the conscience and anchor of the party, always tsukkomiing the reckless and boneheaded behaviour of any of the other party members. Chie 3 is the dumbest motherfucker alive whose entire function seemed to be to overreact to everything and panic at the first sign of anything unexpected to try and increase tension. What will Chie 4 be?
>>736468368I'm almost certain that P4R is a fake game and that it's actually P6 in disguise
>>736469465danganronpa is doing that right? they're making a """"remake"""" of danganronpa 2 except it's really danganronpa 4considering persona starts with 3 it's the same thing
>>736469370Yosuke obviously. He'll be painted as a terrible perverted incel and his character arc will be to learn to be a good little simp for his plus-sized queen. Yukiko and Chie will be lesbians, Rise will lean into how empowering it is to be a slut/sexualized idol, Kanji will be gay and Naoto will be a brave trans man.
>>736468368I already played this shit enough times.If they change literally anything it's just an excuse to ignore it forever.
>>736469929>Yosuke obviously. He'll be painted as a terrible perverted incel and his character arc will be to learn to be a good little simp for his plus-sized queen>rewriting the one actually gay character in the game to be straightwould be pretty funny.
>>736469435least corny dubfag
>>736468368>Rise's shadow wont be a thirsty stripper>Kanji will be unquestionably homosexual, a giant flaming raging faggot wearing rainbow shit>Naoto will be trans, will have a tranny flag outfit>Marie's persona wont have a giant clit ringCan't wait!!
censor what? there's nothing to censor
>>736470845kanji accepting he's straightnaoto accepting she'll never be a manhanako fat jokesyosuke being homophobic despite being a fagrise being a slut and showing her ass on tv
>>736469435Why did you skip Chie EX 2.0?
>>736470954It’ll change so that they’re all just dumb small town rednecks on the wrong side of history
>>736470954Kanji is bi though. It was about him accepting he is attracted to both men and women.
>>736471193He was Naotosexual. He's not attracted to men or women, just her, making him straight.
>>736471193>>736470954It had nothing to do with his sexuality at all, it was about Kanji accepting that people will perceive him a certain way due to his hobbies and interests. And that he shouldn't let that define who he was as a man. Was the tv theme not a big enough clue for you to figure out that the shadows are not just inner demons?
>>736468368Considering the shitshow that was P3R and how the literal first thing we heard about this remake is the entire OG voice cast being thrown out for bootlegs, I have basically no hope for this remake being anything but garbage.
>>736471496>dubfags
>>736468368Yup, there zero chance this shit will be any good
>>736470954>>736471193>2026>People still can't understand what P4's story was saying
>>736468368They are remaking p4 again?? WHY THE FUCK
>>736471684My theory is that's because it starts with Yosuke's shadow which barely makes sense (to me anyway) and then Yukiko, so you get a nonsense Shadow that just makes it seem like the reasoning is only Yosuke's true feelings because you have no context yet and then Yukiko's shadow is just a simplistic bird in a cage visual making you think they're nothing more than reflections. The only hint you get until the more in-depth character arcs later on is the Chie Shadow, but you can easily misinterpret that one too since you don't know their relationship that well yet.
>>736471684P5 was shit. P5R doubled the shit so nothing makes sense anymore.
>>736471193Kanji never was gay in first place. He is frustrated because he is being perceived the wrong way by most people due to interests in his parents craft (tailoring being their main income) and protectiveness of his inner circle, and because of struggles with peer pressure. Him frustrated around girls is reasonable since he is only a teenager, he is only exploring things in his life and struggling with his own identity because people only see him as dumb brute or queer. That's it.
>>736472215P5 is fine if you ignore story that is absolutely retarded, only pick funny dialogue options, and only focus on gameplay.
Incredibly cruel that they gave us a second tomboy in the second half of the game. How am I supposed to even choose.
>>736472747I'm not sure if Naoto is really a tomboy honestly, she's more of the princely woman archetype to me. She doesn't actually have any masculine interests or anything like that, in fact she's extremely feminine. She only really has her way of speaking and the boyish clothes that she wore as a kid, but even that was more to fit in since she thought she needed to act like a man to be respected in her dream job. Although maybe that's adhering too autistically to the definition, I suppose.
>>736468368>removes p4 golden from steam>thanks Sega...heh nothing personal, chud
>>736473442Pirate everything!
>>736472215>P5 was shit.Kawakami balanced it out
>>736469929>Americans actually think all companies push DEI shit as hard as their own companies
>>736468368Don't play it. I won't. >inb4 muh communityJust call them faggots if they like the remake.
>>736472630He's also balding at like 14.
>>736475498>max out her social>Just an empty shell that makes coffee
>>736468368Imagine being a dev on the remake right now. No matter what you do, people will be sending you death threats.
>>736476689>that makes coffeeThat's more than what most maxed S links do
>>736468368I have faith that enough people have played Yakuza now that they can have Kanji call you aniki instead of senpai
>>736476717yay...
>>736471684It's pretty confusing that the first three shadows are all real things that the kids just want to keep hidden and suppressed.
>>736476689It was nice that there was a reason to have my girlfriend over on like 90% of days.
>>736476913*as opposed to max out link, see you in a few months on christmas and valentines
>>736468368Don't play it.
>>736476960>"everyone sees what they want to see on the midnight channel"
>>736476689Worst part. She reverts back to pre relationship status because Atlus doesn't know if you accepted her feelings or not.
>Reload 2.0What’s the point of these remakes? They only slightly change the graphics, sound, and gameplay., Persona isn’t that old to need remakes, and most people only play it for the story (which will be exactly the same). I see this as an absolute waste of time and money if you’ve already played the originals.
>>736477293>What’s the point of these remakes?They need to make a profit and new IPs, like Metaphor Refantazio, aren't profitable.
>>736476689Just like real life, anon. Real women are exact same.
>>736477293Money mostly. SEGA knows Persona sells.P3 remake is kind of reasonable though, since Atlus most likely don't have FES source code to even make a remaster for PC and newer consoles (hence why we got Portable instead), so they agreed to do P5 level remake instead.
>>736468368Remake Persona 5 too to complete the cycle.
>>736468368P4 was never good to begin with.
>>736469929Grim how plausible this parody is>>736476550persona has been cooked for a while
>>736478727It is a good jrpg but this means nothing to people who do not play this genre.
>>736468368I love my hotwife Risette
>>736468368...and zoomers will call it better. Yes. It already happened with P3 except P3 was way better than P4 so the difference was stark enough for backlash.
>>736468368Don't care, still fucking the shit out of Naoto on a public beach on Valentine's Day while that faggot Kanji cries at home into the shitty half-made sweater he was sewing for himself
>>736469929>Yukiko and Chie will be lesbiansThis is a good thing
>>736480234always were
>>736468368It's a remake, the only purpose of remakes is to erase the originals.
>>736471374Carl Jung? Never heard of him.
>>736478646please do not stick your cock in my Keurig
>>736477038Man what's hot about Kawakami is that you come onto her when she was totally trying to keep a distance. There are only a few romances in P5 where the girl throws herself at you in a P4 kind of way, so the ones that have a good setup for Joker to feel like he's the one taking initiative to cross the boundary instead of just hitting a make girlfriend button like Ann are hotter
>>736477331you are too funny
Goodbye Yukiko's Magical Armor...
>>736468665You realize they'll water down his message too right?
>>736471374That doesn't mean the sexual part of it isn't a part of it. Did you forget the part where he went on a date with Naoto under the impression that she was a guy, because he wanted to go on a date with a guy, so that he could explore his sexuality?>inb4The writing is shit. Direct your complaints towards that. I'm willing to bet half the writers didn't even understand his character and the other half did. That's why we get both this sexual plot and another plot that isn't about that.
>>736480736Those are still in Reload, retard-kun.
>>736471103I mean, no-one likes Chie 2I have literally never in my life heard someone defend Chie 2. People hate that performance
>>736482054I could be wrong, I dunno. Presumably there are people who played OG English localisation P4 on PS2 which didn't come with dual audio and got used to it, and then later hated the P4G retardmode Chie when that came out on vita (which also didn't have dual audio).But these people don't speak up when the topic comes up
>>736473305Her entire detective interest is masculine That’s the whole point of her working in a field of men and wanting to be a man to definitely fit in. She’s a tomboy, just a classy, less energetic one than Chie for example. She also express disdain and disinterest for feminine clothing and activity
>>736479923Based busty tomboy
>>736476960>MC starts recording iti don't think that's how the midnight channel works, but i can't blame the guy for trying. Anime Yu was so based.
>>736477293all game devs collectively lost faith in their ability to make new good games, so they've all agreed to just remake their old catalogs until the end of time.
>>736468368Not everything. The gameplay will still be a ton of fun, and that's why I play Persona and SMT.
>>736483427>lost faithweird way to spell "fired all the White people and replaced them with indian slave labour"
People seriously looked at Reload and said "yep that's a good remake! just change everything and ruin the art and music and gameplay! who cares!!! QoL features!!!!!"it's all your fault
>>736486365Ah yes, The white people. The white people for Persona 4, the white people chosen especially to make Persona 4, Persona 4's white people. Those white people?
>>736486557The Honorary Aryans, yes. As proclaimed by the big man himself
>>736486494That's because 99% of Persona 3 remake players never played the originals. Don't forget that it was on xbox gamepass after all
>>736476658I mean there's tons of guys balding at age 18 now
I've never played a Persona game before and buyghted P5R while it was on sale. What am I in for?
>>7364868324 and 5 are paganistic and lack any morality to them, but 3 is one of the most pro-Christian games in existence since literally the main character is expected to act like Jesus Christ and is even given a Persona called "Messiah."4 and 5 want to call humanity lazy and stupid.3 wants to give you hope even in the darkest of times when death surrounds you.
>>736468368they're not going to change shit. But people will expect them to, which will cause massive butthurt.
>>736468368Persona 5 fags killed the company Metaphor troons poisoned everything that came after
>>736468368>atlus finally figured out the can milk the pc market for another 20 years instead of making a new gameP5 is 10 years old man fuck this
>>736476689Literally me. >>736478646In my experience women buy coffee, often starbucks type sloppa, not make it themselves.
Let me in you on how they're going to ruin P4's storyThey're going to contact Chisato Dojima's death to the main plot
>>736486940>impersonating our lord and saviorabsolute heresy and you'll prob burn in hell for promoting such sacrilegious filth.
What's the best version of 3, 4 and 5 to play? I wanted to play all 3 at their best.
>>736487192>impersonation No, it is simply following him and his commands.12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17 This is my command: Love each other.
>>736469274>You can't rewind a TV program tard>what the fuck are DVRs>not to mention multiple satellite networks have a rewind feature already built in
>>736487254Persona 3 FES (PS2)Persona 4 (PS2)Persona 5 Royal (PC)Speaking from direct experience, these are the best versions of each game.
>>736479592>NOOOOO NOT THE HECKING SLEEP ANIMATION ON 5/4>THIS GAME IS A DOWNGRADE IN EVERY ASPECT WITHOUT IT
>>736468368the voice actors are being replaced
>>736487320Nah, he's right. It should be Rerun or Replay as those are terms you use for TV programs that come on again that you've seen before.
>>736487358Why not P4 Golden? Does it mess something up?
>>736487056They're going to drag out the wait even longer so they can get the same hype GTA6 has.
>>736487696Personally, I think that Marie and her entire story arc feels incredibly forced and tacked-on. It totally kills the pacing of the main storyline. Also giving you another month or so to fuck around messes with the pacing even more.The game ends up feeling inauthentic because you're constantly having to deal with Marie drama with your friends while you are supposed to all be consumed with solving the mystery of the murders.
what can they even add in the remake that golden doesn't cover?
>>736470954What the others said about the actual message for most things.But they're fucked with the Hanako bit. That is just literally the "Absolute unit in my class fucked up my bike" that's the joke, there isn't any subtext or explanation, it is literally just "haha she's a fucking slab" even the Anime had to spin it a little differently. Which is a shame because the returning VAs actually seem to enjoy the roles a little more in the golden extra scenes. Shame it comes with Marie cancer. Ah well. Can't wait to see what kind of theurgy bullshit in they put in to make the game stupidly easy.
>>736487838Inaba's cabbage festival and the yearly underground Nanako fight club.
>>736468368I thought r3r was decent. At the very least they didn't add any annoying donut steels
i'll face....myself
P4G Naoto's Voice = SexP5 Tae's Voice = SexP5R Tae's Voice =/= SexP4R Naoto's Voice = ?
>>736487150I can't believe Yosuke killed Chisato by ploughing his shit bike into her so badly it looked like a car did it. Fucking bikers I hate cyclists so much.
>>736471193Reading comprehension is hard
They should bring back Granny Chie's VA just to complete the cycle.
>>736488147Tomboy Chie (PS2) > Peppy Cheerleader Chie (Golden and onwards)
>>736488214Lol what a Correct opinion you Gentleman of culture.
>>736488214Is PS2 Chie the "aha is this our chance?" one?
>>736487440That's not an animation retard.
>dub
>>736488639Some lines are read in a dull way but her Golden voice is so grating, high-pitched, and upbeat that it legitimately changes her entire character to be the opposite of what the script calls for.
>>736472117Even though I love P4, the real reason the story is such fucking hot garbage is just poor management. I forgot where, but there was an interview where the writers admitted that for P3 they had a huge design document to help organize the story, and they just fucking NEVER made it for P4. They winged it, and then on top of that it went through several heavy rewrites. So the story starts to fall apart if you stare at the seams too much. They also said because of how much of a mess the P4 development was that they went overboard and made a super huge design doc for P5 and had several checks and balances forcing all the devs to check in every time they wanted to add something to the story. My personal theory is that the writing in P5 is retarded redundant because of that. In order to make sure you get info A to the player, you'll have back-to-back mandatory scenes where the characters talk about info A cause they went overboard making sure you don't miss anything.
If we’re lucky they won’t censor anything and we can vote with our money
>>736489613
>>736468368get excited for zero nuance, gay kanji, and trans naoto.
>>736487126Can confirm, the single mothers at work who always complain about having no money buy Starbuck's garbage constantly.
>>736487254For 3: either emulate FES or play Reload. Both are fine despite all bitching on /v/.For 4: P4 Golden is definitive edition. Original P4 sucks dick and is agonizing to play, don't even bother. Visuals can be changed to your liking through mods and people eventually will figure out how and implement the visual filters hipsters here bitch about.For 5: Royal.
>>736487126Only dumb ones. Most smart ones make their own coffee or buy it in places where it's cheaper.
No Nanako marriage no buy!
>>736471496Was the OG cast any good?
>>736468368I'm just hoping they do something better with Izanagi-no-Okami>Congratulations, you got the good ending! Now you can do the whole game with almost no changes except you can use that super basass cutscene Persona!>Oh but he's a dodecagon fusion so you'll have to wait until halfway through the game when you can hold that many Personas>Oh but you can only hold twelve max so you'll have to throw away all the other Personas you might have been using and purchase them again>Oh and he's Level 91 so you'll have to wait a bit more to even fuse him>Oh and aside from Victory Cry he doesn't come with or learn anything very exciting, so you'll have to supply the firepower>Oh and again almost nothing has changed from NG meaning there's only one (optional) fight in the game you can even justify doing all of this for>And if you're not going after that one specific fight there are many other Personas who are easier to build but just as strong if not stronger>And you can't save Izanagi no Okami into the Compendium so have fun doing this again every subsequent NG+ runT-thanks...
>>736468368What I wonder is if they are going to give this fucker more protagonism to hype up the last dungeon
>>736490615In retrospect this is like Eve showing up when the protagonists's persona is Adam. It wasn't any surprise for japs
>>736490615What they should do is make it so that the final act isn't so easily missable.The way you get into it is fucking stupid.
>>736491038Most japs dont know what the fuck they're praying to when they go to shrines.
>>736491152At shrines they're praying to big rocks.
>>736469370They left moon boy alone in 3, I think ugly fatties are a non-negotiable for Atlus.
>>736471193are you genuinely retarded?
>>736490510>>And you can't save Izanagi no Okami into the Compendiumbet
>>736487440Yes. Remakes should not be inferior in any single way.
>>736469274TiVo
>Ctrl + F>Adachi>one mentionHe's getting kneecapped
>>736490510Reminder that it is expected of Yu that he can summon lucifer by the time he fights Adachi.
>>736468368Why would I care when I have this
>>736492250>Golden
>>736470761>>736471558>>736489024
>>736492418Yes, and? Ken is cool.
Is this the daily scatsona thread?
I'm literally Adachi frfr
>>736490615>>736491141or just make the dungeon and boss fight better to make up for...well... everything about it
>>736487254Don't overthink it. 3Reload, 4Golden and 5Royal. Maybe you can make a case for 3FES but I think the quality of life improvements in Reload are just too good to go back if you don't have nostalgia goggles.
>>736468368Naoto says "trans rights"
I’m most likeY not getting revival because I know atlus will have to censor so much and because I’m so used to the old cast that new voices will feel weird. I had that same problem with reload. Rise just wouldn’t be the same without Laura Bailey.
>>736498976
>>736487254FES and Royal are certain. For P4 the question is more complicated. Do you prefer atmosphere, thematic coherence and better life simulation at the cost of boredom and notable amount of annoyance? Then Vanilla, which I would also personally recommend. Or do you want convenience, more excitement and more content at the cost of bloat, the message of the game, even worse pacing, worse textures and tonal dissonance? Then pick Golden.Another way I could describe the above situation concerning most games and their rereleases Atlus makes is that they make a game that is consistent and all-encompassing of its subject matter and then the remakes are parties thrown for the returning players, who Atlus assume know the game, so that's ignored for added bells and whistles and other sort of fun extras and quality of life improvements. It clashes regularly. P4G is just a more egregious example.
>>736487838I hope they make the dungeons not randomized and more like P5’s
>>736489135I'll likely play in Japanese the same way I did for P3R, but I am curious to hear what the new cast sounds like. Chie had the worst voice possible in both the PS2 and Golden versions. I don't know how hard it could be to find a pleasant voice for a tomboy character.
>>736468368I hope they add a cute female MC :3
>>736468368Doesn't matter. I had zero interest in 3re and I have even less in a p4re.
>>736492418Bro it's a video game that uses honorifics in the dub, this is you no matter what.
>>736505848>open a French book>mademoiselle used everywhere just fine>open an Italian book>signore used everywhere just fine>open a German book>Herr is used everywhere just fine>play a Japanese game>honorifics are used everywhere but this is bad because.......?
>>736507120>this is bad because.......?If you think it's bad, that's on you. The point is, there's no non-weeb way to consume Persona 4.
>censoring rated M gamesOh, say can you seeee What's Australia's anthem?
>>736468368I was looking forward to P3, because I was stupid enough to think that it'll be the definitive edition, but P4G is still kino and on Steam, unlike the original P3, so I really don't care about this at all.
>>736469929>Naoto will be a brave trans man.Not with those titties, she won't.
