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>um ackshually demons are heckin' wholesome and misunderstood and just like us!

Dropped instantly. Miss me with that gay shit.
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>>736474248
lol
nice bait
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Sounds like you would enjoy Frieren
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>>736474248
It's a symptom of the degeneration of mankind, the impulse to invert everything and subvert conventional thematic and metaphysical orientations. It's an aversion/suspicion of power and health, wholesomeness, success etc that is indicative of a creator who has been forced to come to terms with the negative aspects of their own crappy life (which are by no means necessary or obligatory, just that they happen to be increasingly commonplace in our age where humanity is devolving)
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Camellia redemption DLC.
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>>736474248
Hey man if a demon lady can love me more than a human could ever could thats all that matter
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>>736474248
Your loss
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It has her so it's fine, just kill Arue at the start and ignore her questline
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She felt like a less interesting version of Falls From Grace to me.
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>>736474248
>"anon i'm so messed up and corrupted we can't touch or kiss or anything please be careful and keep you distance from me!"
>ok...
>"oh but anon you are so heroic and amazing i think i'm falling for you oh no!"
>ok...
>*goes back to my degenerate petplay with my wenduag wife*
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Canon KC is
>Aasimar
>Female
>Bard
>Chaotic Good
>Azata
>Romance Arue
>Ascension ending
>Impregnated with twins
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>>736475152
Hornholding? More like hornbreaking
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>>736474248
That is based take on demon sluts, being pure reborn virgin waifu is cringe though
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>>736474248
The god of hippies mind fucked her, she's not a normal demon.
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>>736474248
Tbh, owlcuck are a bunch of fags.
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Good and evil aren't about where you stand, but which direction you're facing.
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Fuck demons
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>>736474248
I haven't played it, but let me guess - she's a special snowflake and doesn't have sex like regular succubi and just kills men who try to fuck her, correct?
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she didn't say that
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>>736475051
Based spider pussy enjoyer
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>>736474248
IDK about you man but I'm not going to diss someone that an actual god is paying close attention to. Imagine my surprise when completing her romance in the base game and suddenly my room is filled with congrats on finally having sex flowers from her goddess.

Also to be fair the only person more shit on in party convos than her is the twink in the first game after act 3. She's really just built to receive
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>>736475410
She was a regular succubus for millennia then she corrupted the soul of a cleric of the god of freedom, adventure and vague hippy bullshit who then punished her by giving her the power to dream (demons don't have dreams, apparently). This lead to her regretting everything she's and becoming good. Part of being a succubus meant she wasn't able to touch anyone without hurting them, at the end of her quest Hippy God gives her a new body so she can touch people now - this is where all the virgin stuff comes from.
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>>736475646
the ability to dream empty space apparently
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>>736475646
>at the end of her quest Hippy God gives her a new body so she can touch people now - this is where all the virgin stuff comes from.
holy shit, imagine the wedding night
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>lawful good, with emphasis on lawful
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>>736476284
Literally me
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>>736476284
That’s lawful neutral, then
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>>736476179
For you, the day Arueshalae married you was the most orgasmic day of your life. But for Balor Darazzaned, it was Tuesday.
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>>736475646
>Part of being a succubus meant she wasn't able to touch anyone without hurting them, at the end of her quest Hippy God gives her a new body so she can touch people now - this is where all the virgin stuff comes from.

This is erotic fanfiction tier writing. Its what you write while stroking your penis.
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>>736476358
No, you.
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>>736474248
>The whole game is about a crusade against demons even if you to choose to kinda become one
>One god chosen succubus is an exception
>Trad larping chud has a melty
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>>736474972
I found her plotline pretty disappointing when playing as a lawful good paladin (the way the game is supposed to be played).

My character found her murdering and eating some guy so he killed her, obviously. The game never really acknowledges it or mentions her again. I'd have liked a bit more incidental dialog discussing it with other members of the party or something.
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>>736474248
her face reminds me of konno anna
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>>736476358
And? All you cRPGfags ever do is arguing about waifus anyway
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>>736476478
I mean you can kill her if you want, game doesn't stop you. But if you trust the one demon who isn't obviously trying to kill or manipulate you, you find out that she is earnestly trying to redeem herself.
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>>736476284
Gygax was right, there's no need for lawful good or chaotic evil, they're part and parcel of the same thing. Chaotic good and lawful neutral aren't coherent because the divine law can't be evil. Anything that masquerades as law but is evil is in fact the definition of chaos. Chaos is opposition to the divine law, prioritizing the self over others.
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>>736476486
>Urr durr why does nobody discuss this random succubus with me they never got to know.
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>>736476486
>The game never really acknowledges it or mentions her again. I'd have liked a bit more incidental dialog discussing it with other members of the party or something.
Now that I think of it, I don't know of any RPGs where opting out of a party member's character quest is treated as an alternative route for it, rather than just a full abort. You really should have to explain why Camela isn't around anymore, you should have the option of telling the rest of your party that it turns out she was a psycho murderer, and we should hear their thoughts on that.
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>>736476592
Sure long nosed taxman
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>>736476592
>lawful good or chaotic evil, they're part and parcel of the same thing
what
you mean lawful evil?
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>>736476527
Give us actually good waifuus then.
Eroge VNs have the humility to provide that one vanilla love interest that you can pick if you are put off by the dominatrix, NTR or yandre bitch.
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>>736476743
No, chaos is predatory and despotic.
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>>736476879
The prey can fight back.
Anyone can overthrow the despot.
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>>736476906
And? There's no aim towards the good, it's simply a power game. Law represents both an ontological structure and teleology. Chaos is the negation.
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>>736476879
You're not making any fucking sense.
Chaos is opposition to divine law, but lawful good is part and parcel of the same thing as chaotic evil? Why isn't divine law lawful good?
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>>736476979
Lawful and good are the same thing. Chaos and evil are the same thing.
This is why D&D originally only had three alignments.
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>>736477028
You must be genuinely stupid if you can't differentiate between the four.
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>>736477158
I think you're philosophically illiterate. Explain to me how you can have anti-teleological good.
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>>736477028
Oh, so you're just ESL.
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WOTR isn't subvervise about the general nature of demons, the only time they go against their chaotic evil natures in the game is when a god(Desna) and demigod(Andoletta via her patron, Ember) get involved.

Deskari, Baphomet and their squads of goons are undeniably evil murder rape machines. The climax of act one has you encountering a succubus who uses the faith of some crusaders to seduce them into goring themselves while she masturbates to it
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>>736476976
>There's no aim towards the good, it's simply a power game.
There is nothing preventing a powerful one to be also good. Whether good behaviour always creates power or not the point. Or if the people realise that at this rate they will all self sabotage so better agree on to some rules or not.
>Law represents both an ontological structure and teleology.
The deconstruction it runs into, is
what incentive does a lawful person have to obey the laws ?
Or why obey a weak person? Even if the weak person is supposed to lawfully in charge.
Is some administering rewards to lawful people for following a code?

Power is required at every step to keep a system either running or sustaining it.
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>>736475410
She's a play on the whole demonic corruption thing, she corrupted mortals for ages and eventually a goddess got sick of her shit and "corrupted" her instead, except because she's a demon that basically meant she turned her good and made her feel regret.
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>>736477436
Chaos is anti-teleological, it is simply self-centered, predatory despotism and/or hedonism in opposition to law. You're confusing power with authority. If I beat you up and make you my slave, I have power over you but have not gained any authority. I am the same kind of thing as you. Authority is a greater metaphysic.
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>>736477217
Big words don't make you sound any less stupid.
Law can be used for evil and good as can be defying law (chaos).
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>>736477576
Bro chaos is just things happening without structure.
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>>736474398
You're mixing things a bit but you're correct. Extreme individualism leads to individuals and even groups sampling antisocial values while rejecting social values as oppressive. In the case of this game though it's an exploration of redemption.
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>>736477679
Once again, I ask that you explain to me how you can have "anti-teleological good" as an alignment.
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>>736477708
That's entropy. Chaos is oppositional.
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>>736475051
She only says this things if you romance her though? If you truly enjoy your spider hotwife that want other men to bred her then why bother?
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>>736477719
you can have teleological evil, so anti-teleological good can be in opposition to that evil
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Why do we pretend that we don't all adore Arue?
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>>736477719
Stop using a word you don't actually understand for starters.
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>>736477759
>>736477794
>Chaos is oppositional
Words don't mean things just because you want them to mean those things. You'd think lawfags would know that.
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>>736477794
A thing's telos is its role within the greater telos of existence. Only in a system that is teleologically ordered towards "evil" can have a thing that is teleologically evil. In which case, there is no actual good.
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>>736477798
>pretend
/v/ loathes Arue, she's perfect at making everyone mad. Aerie's personality which a lot of people here hate, but with Viconia's backstory which a lot of people also hate. She's waifu bait which makes a lot of people mad (especially anti-waifufags), /pol/tards that can't help but project their hatred of 3DPD onto her and christcucks mad at a good demon, and of course other waifufags themselves, particularly Cam and Wenducucks, who hate her on principle because deep down it hurts knowing that she is by far the most popular romance. Only character that makes this board seethe more is Yrliet from RT but at least that one actually goes out of her way to fuck up spectacularly.
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>>736475152
>Female
Unlike you, for you shall forever be and remain male.
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>>736475152
There are no "former" turbowhores anon.
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>>736475047
>special snowflake LN demon
>who can somehow manifest cleric powers even though she's an atheist, because she's special
Grace is lucky to be from a boomer game otherwise people wouldn't stop crying about thise
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wife
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>>736478168
based
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>>736477907
>A thing's telos is its role within the greater telos of existence. Only in a system that is teleologically ordered towards "evil" can have a thing that is teleologically evil.
A system that is teleologically neither good nor evil can have both
>but then if it isn't good, it's evil
You've performed a tautological fallacy by assuming the initial point. If existence is neutral, it is not necessarily either wholly systemic or wholly random, meaning that teleological ordering does not apply as an absolute regardless.
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>>736477576
>Chaos is anti-teleological, it is simply self-centered, predatory despotism and/or hedonism in opposition

Not necessarily. A person can be self serving only, without any explicit needs to harm others. Which is difficult in situations where resources are limited.
In resource abundant situations you can be harmless while being self serving.

You mentioned opposition, something that doesn't exist in a vaccum. Now can someone be chaotic in a vaccum? Yes.
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>>736478141
OP posted one though?
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>>736478141
>N-no literal divine intervention doesn't count!
KK lil' niggy.
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>>736476284
In fact, forget the good part.
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>>736476792
the vanilla route of CRPGs is a party of bros without a hint of romance
closer to a dungeon crawler basically
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>>736478183
A system cannot be neutral, or if it is, there is nothing that can be in opposition to it. Teleology is an aim towards something. A neutral system simply exists. Any notion of "good" or "evil" lacks meaning. Good to do what? Evil as opposed to do what? The neutral system may have an is but it cannot have any oughts.
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>>736475410
No, shes a whore - owlkek is called so for a reason.
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>>736478183
>A system that is teleologically neither good nor evil can have both
I thought non living systems by their own are just neutral and agnostic.

Its when you spawn in life thats when the game theory of resource acclamation and contest generates law and chaos.
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>>736478331
>doesn't even know what neutral means and contradicts himself in his own posts
You're too illiterate and unintelligent for anyone to have this conversation with you.
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>>736478141
>only girl that doesn't cuck or betray you in any way
>only one that gives you children
>even if you erase yourself from existence and rewrite a century of history turning her back into a demon she still remains loyal to you and never has sex, becoming an actual unironic virgin succubus
I think you're wrong
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>>736478450
I accept your concession.
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>>736478246
>>736478271
>I know you want to belive it, but that just doesn't happen. An apple cannot unrot.
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>>736474248
Arue is too asian coded, and a succ can never change her nature, she'd be draining random men while you're gone from home 100%, it's like marrying Lana Rhoades or Adriana Chechik and hoping they'll be chaste good loyal wives and you won't feel humiliated at all. Wenduag is a non-human. Camelia is a schizophrenic murderer crazy bitch, only fit for pump and dump. Galfrey is realistically the only good-ish option because she's in her early 20s physically, will live for a long as fuck life, is of noble bloodlines, cute blonde hair and blue eyes phenotype, and is inexperienced in love and sex meaning you arent inherently cucked from the get go.
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>>736478398
Is the system ordered towards something?
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>>736474248
She was literally brainwashed by a goddess to be reformed and turned into a waifu for the goddess to ship with a mortal.
The game is pretty blatant that the vast majority of demons are unrepentant cunts, and even the "nice" ones are still dicks and only being nice because they think they can benefit from it.
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>>736478507
refer to >>736478470
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>>736478870
Reminder that Galfrey, just like Valerie, has no problem having kids with someone else but won't have them with you
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>>736478870
Retards like you are the reason why every Brazzers ad is cuckshit now
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>people discussing romances and shit
>when this is one of the few games where you can embrace sweet death and become the embodiment of entropy

I'll sacrifice my "beloved one" for more power and knowledge
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>>736475152
All this except tiefling sorcerer/dragon disciple gish.
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>>736479875
stop replying to yourself, tranny
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>>736479449
uh, no. galfrey is an autist obsessed with queenly duties and if anything you are literally the only guy ever to get past that in centuries. while valerie is a narcissistic forsen-esque athetist feminist with a inflated ego that treats most men as cattle and would doubt she'd be turned into a baby factory for any guy. they're both the best girls in their games still, octavia comes close but she's kind of coalburner coded with the whole orc thing even d&oe the orc looks like a ruskiorc or ukropig rather than enlightened african american persuasion and you kinda gotta cuck a guy to fuck her and she's a literal slave so her sex market value drops off a cliff.
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>>736479978
>what is the aeon ending
>also an actual unironic Valeriefag
wee
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>>736478168
Nothing is special about her. She's a character that follows the rules of the setting. In Planescape strong belief manifests as reality. That's the source of the powers. There is a entire factions that rejects the existence of gods yet have cleric spells in Sigil. It seems your problem is with the setting not the character.
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>>736480118
I have no problem with her, I'm just pointing out a fact
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>>736480034
im not a furry, valerie is shit compared to actually prestigious highbrow monacled arpeegee romances like arue and saerileth
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>>736476592
In pathfinder there are over 9 distinct afterlife dimensions based on character alignment. Chaos is the primordial greek "literally anything can happen" soup of no structure. Law is ordered solid reality following strict rules. Good is peace love happiness and creation. Evil is pain and power structures, corruption and treason
Devils are lawful evil they make contracts to steal your soul they live in hell
Daemons are neutral evil they just hate everything they live in abaddon
Demons live in the abyss they also hate everything but also want to destroy it all back into chaos soup demons were soecifically made out of mortal sin by devils
Succubi are demons by nature
Also all these afterlife realms are inhabited by post-mortality souls, an arch-devil has already ascended into being a true neutral goddess.
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>>736480307
not arue the cheap cumdumpster, my bad, i meant, aerie*
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>>736480321
D&D originally had only 3 alignments and more is incoherent.
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>>736474248
This didn't happen. Demons are overwhelmingly evil and Aru is only good as a consequence of extreme circumstances outside of her control
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>>736480204
They you chose the wrong character to do that. She's the most tormented and weakened out of the entire party due to rejecting her chaotic nature. Her stats are lower than a generic succubus too to reflect that and unlike any other character in the party they never increase to show how she can't actually evolve and move past her nature.
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>>736480356
KEK even the shitposter knows Arue is best girl, nice freudian slip Galfreykek
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Even after all this time, Camfags are still this mindbroken. Quite fascinating.
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>>736480439
forget Camcucks it's all of them
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>>736476592
>because the divine law can't be evil
Law is a creation of Asmodeus in DnD.
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The succubus is a good choice for a fuck, but keep in mind of her past that makes Bonnie Blue look like a nun. when around her.
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>>736480372
Literally don't care DnD is shit I'd rather play pathfinder than baldurs gate
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>>736480478
I will, now consider >>736478470
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>>736475152
>tradwife
>former turbowhore
Many such cases
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>>736480510
women being cumdumpsters for other guys has nothing to do with their bodies, if you put bonnie blue into another woman's body she'd still be the same mentally fucked bonnie blue a cheap easy degraded whore cumdumpster just with a different skin. there's no fixing arue, she's for the streets.
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>>736475047
Yeah because she has a actually believable way she escaped the abyss. Arue has a literal deus ex machina as her excuse.
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>>736480558
nothing in my post said anything about her body except for the ending where you're dead anyway
But you know she was purified so you still bring it up unprompted, I wonder why
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>>736480563
Don't you like saying that Arue got mindbroken? the exact same thing happened to Grace, she got mindraped by devil's for who knows how long
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>>736480624
you cant purify a whore retard. the act is done in your head, the only way you can purify it is by you yourself never knowing she was a succubus before, a sort of blue pill delusion life of lies.
>dude gabbie carter is married to a guy and gave birth to his kids and only records with him now, dude she's so purified and trad, ignore these past videos on the internet of her getting gangbanged by 10 men, pissed on her face, vomiting on their dicks, and prolapsing her asshole as she squirts, she's now purified and based and trad bro, your college feminist gf would never be a baby factory for you unlike my trad pornstar cumpdumpster wife!!!
nobody says this or does this or thinks this
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>>736480693
why does this guy keep bringing up real women? I think he's a bit obsessed
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>>736480670
Grace used the law against the devils to escape their ownership of her.
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>>736480748
to give you context over what kind of waifu you are simping for, since your naturalcuckbrain cant see the red flags or issues with your terrible taste, maybe giving you real life examples will wake it up or you'll just get a boner at thought of your hotwife succubus cucking you while you watch and get back to arue simping. many such cases.
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>>736480775
To escape literally yes, and Arue escaped using the worldwound, we're obviously talking about how they escaped the abyss metaphorically retard, what do you think made Grace stop being evil? It wasn't playing chess with a devil
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>>736474248
Are you american?
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>>736480787
none of what you say happens in the game, as she is the most loyal girl in the game (not like that's too hard to achieve considering the competition) you're literally just making up cuck headcanon, you're mentally ill
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>>736480401
He's just upset Planescape characters and setting mog WOTR so hard. It's a common thing in these threads.
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>>736480930
she's a succubus. but i suppose its okay to be the man that stepped up and be a better man. your girls past doesnt matter. what she did with men before you doesnt matter. you are the one that gets to hold her hand now. you won anon. you stepped up when she needed you and forgave her past sins and indecent behavior, she respects you for being lenient and not having much of a backbone or high standards. she's tired of her past life and constant sex, and ready to be with an asexual nerdy anon like you and while you adventure stay at home and help the neighboring virile studs out, uhm, i mean play with the kids and uh take care of people or something.
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>>736481026
anon, you literally fuck her, it's the first thing you do once she stops being a demon, you don't even know the character that makes you so mad
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>>736481026
sounds like you're spiritually brown
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>>736476284
can I choose english law aligned? I don't want european law
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If you summed the IQ of every poster above me you would get a number in the teens
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>>736481026
Stay off reddit, kids. Lest you end up like this guy, crying over scenarios he made up in his head.
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>>736480936
I'm not upset at all, in fact I agree, Vhailor mogs the shit out of Regill for example. Of course, no one ever brings up that one, the comparison is always with the succs, who knows why
The topic wasn't about who is the better character anyway, just that your boomer waifu is a special snowflake who is lucky to not be from a modern game or people would hate her just for that. Dak'kon is the same btw
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ain't no way this nigga just said vhailor mogs regill lmao
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>>736481085
are you retarded nigga, how does that change her being a succubus, and a especially fucked up one as mentioned in the game that probably did the most fucked up weird kinks even compared to irl whores. you are salivating at the thought of getting to pityfuck and simp for a literal cumdumpster.
>>736481101
>>736481225
I guess bro...
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>>736481225
He's making up actual cuck fantasies to get mad about, that's 4chan behavior
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>>736481426
>actually simping over a literal whore is based and uncucked! i'm intelligent!
I guess bro...
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>Church is le bad
>but demons are your frens
Totally not evil subversion.
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>>736481548
Neither of those things happen in this game
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>>736479801
I keep meaning to do a Lich run but I don't like the idea of being a bad guy
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>>736480118
>reddit atheists find the idea of devotion to a god uncomfortable so clerical powers don't require a god actually

You're right, it does sound like a shit setting.
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>>736474398
Strikes me more as people with a very different definition of a good life having an incomparable definition of a bad person. The rub being they don't want to admit having a different outcome in mind, so they don't get judged for what it is.
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Been a while since I've seen an anti-Arue melting like this one
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>>736481101
Notice how he keeps bringing up porn actresses' names, he's clearly a porn addict too
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>>736474398
man I hate you Christcuck larpers, you never actually know the games you're complaining about, your enemies are demons and she is only good because of a miracle. You literally can count the number of good demons in the game with one hand (five) the rest are all evil and the game makes it clear that they should be killed because the vast majority will never even consider not being evil assholes
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>>736474248
why cant I fuck demon mom instead
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>>736474248
>um ackshually demons are heckin' wholesome and misunderstood and just like us!
Not what happens
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>most loyal girl, will literally starve herself (sexually) if she can't do it with you
>only one that has your children, at least two
>and of course, purified and revirginized
Arue won
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>>736474398
If a saint or an angel can fall to vice, there is no reason that sinner or a demon can't gain redemption, everyone can and does deserve it if they put in the work, no? Its one of Christs biggest teachings, no?
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>>736482946
because she prefers small suture cock
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>>736474398
Demons were always morally complicated and redeemable. Only christians pretended otherwise.
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>>736483135
she'll always remember what those minotaur dicks taste like and how beholder cock fits her better than you ever will
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>>736483497
>He's still going with his cuck fantasies
Anon, I know you're inadequate irl but the commander is a sex god capable of making even a succubus like Vellexia submit. You'll be fine, it's okay, especially since Arue already prefers you to begin with
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>>736483627
>fantasies
Brother. You've played the game just as much as I have. I'm glad she found jesus but a thousand years of the most debauched demon dick is not just gonna vanish.
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>>736483695
You're up getting off to the idea of her comparing you unfavorably with someone else, that doesn't happen and the fact that you keep posting it makes me think it's a fantasy of yours. In fact that would explain a lot about cuck posters, they get off to it
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>>736481548
The Church of Iomedae is your single biggest supporter in the war against the demons, there are other churches that support you in the crusade

The demons who aren't hedonistic rape murder machines are mere exceptions and even amongst them only one of them is good, the rest are just bored from centuries of murder and rape.
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>>736483135
>get to the end of chapter 3
>the one and only thing Galfrey can criticize you for is having Arushalae in the party
>angel specific option to tell her to fuck off because you can see the light in her soul
>inheritor takes your side
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>>736483810
You're projecting anon
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>>736480563
Is it really "deus ex machina" if you live in a world where gods and powerful beings actively take interest and meddle in the lives of people?
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>>736483959
Ironic
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>>736483852
There's that one minotaur that Azatas can recruit, though he's never brought up again so it's not clear if he's genuinely turned over a new leaf

There's also Minagho and Chivarra, who are definitely still evil but seem to have genuinely fallen in love, which should be impossible for demons
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>>736484383
Minotaurs are not demons
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>>736484412
Aren't they baphomet's spawn?
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>>736484462
Minotaurs are specifically monstrous humanoids. Maybe if Baphomet bred a female minotaur (I don't know if those even exist) there could be a half demon minotaur
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>>736483342
No? Ontologically evil demons is a thing in all major religions. Even Buddhism has them.
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>>736483860
Based, she's built for BAC (big angel cock)
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>>736474972
doesn't this bitch cuck you?
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I need to get back to this game. Gotta have older slutty woman completely ruining young protagonist lesbian.
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>>736488224
Which older slutty woman?
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>>736488321
Arue probably. Wenduag is pathetic and camelia is insane.
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>>736488604
But she's not slutty, not old and she doesn't corrupt you
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>>736488224
yuriniggers should be burned alive
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>>736490965
>meanwhile the rest of the party doesn't give a fuck
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>>736489240
>not old
How is Arue not older than Galfrey
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>>736491459
This is like calling Ember old. She's a demon that's not even a millennia old, Vellexia is old, Arue is young for a demon. More importantly she doesn't act like an old woman.
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I don't like giga sluts but all of these threads are making me want to play this game
I did tolerate BG3 after all
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>>736491706
Ember is old
All I said was older than the young protagonist. Wenduag is maybe the only one who could be younger just because Mongrels age fast. Unless you are playing an elf or half-elf yourself.
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>>736491867
Ember, by elven standards, is a teenager
Anyway even if you want to call her old compared to a mortal she still doesn't fit the description
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>>736474248
Should I play the first one if want to start with Pathfinder or go straight to WoTR? I have played most of CRPG from 1997 to 2009 but not that many of the modern ones
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>>736491817
If you tolerated a bear fucker that openly flirts and lusts after one of your male companions then you'll tolerate this one
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>>736492056
play KM first if you intend to play both
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>>736491975
Anon I didn't say milf or christmas cake or cougar or hag. I only said older. She has existed in the setting for longer than the protagonist. Arue is old enough to have been fully grown and on the path to redemption since the KC was a child.
What is your problem with older as a descriptor.
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>>736475152
I missed you yuribro
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>>736488224
There aren't really any, at least not any you can romance.
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>>736474248
>>736474398
this shit honestly doesnt' make any damn sense to me.
God forgives anyone who asks him for salvation according to the fundamentalists pushing this shit as being part of their ideological puritan zeitgeist. Now, I have no trust for jews or demons but thats the literal canonical truth of your religion. if they pray, they are saved. where am I missing the fine print?
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>>736492351
Ok, as I said she still doesn't fit the description
>>736492515
Nocticula
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>>736492201
I actually killed that guy
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>>736492580
I guess Nocti counts but I wouldn't call her a romance. She certainly ruins you though by leaving you behind when she becomes the redeemer queen
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>>736492591
Did you romance Shadowheart? She really wants to fuck him, will even disapprove if you reject him when he tries to join an orgy with you two
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>>736492580
>old enough
>sexually proficient to an extreme degree
>lesbian relationship with protagonist
Arue fits. Completely ruining is subjective.
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>>736492732
Yeah I know, I think I romanced the Frog girl, broke up with her by accident and then I romanced Shart by accident in act 3, it was a very messy playthrough, I killed tons of people I disliked
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>>736492773
she's not slutty at all, trying to make her act that way is literally the easiest way to ruin her romance
>ruining is subjective
This sounds like cope to me, you're the one who can ruin her if anything
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>>736492576
>where am I missing the fine print?
You're assuming the thing written in the book or preached at others is what people actually believe. Unfortunately there's a lot of people for whom religion doesn't go beyond "It tells me that I'm right". Nothing you do will ever be good enough for those because they never cared about you in the first place.

>>736488224
Come to think of it, are there any RPGs where you can let your companions drag you to the evil side? Feels like most of them are written with the assumption that you've picked the evil playthrough right from the start.

>>736476656
>Now that I think of it, I don't know of any RPGs where opting out of a party member's character quest is treated as an alternative route for it, rather than just a full abort.
I've been wanting to make a game with that for a while. Imagine a Dark Souls like structure with all these NPCs on their own journeys, but you can just recruit them to your party instead of being restricted to summoning them for one or two bosses.
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>>736492773
>Leona and Sherry
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>>736492201
>openly flirts and lusts after one of your male companion
wow just like wenduag
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>>736493162
>Come to think of it, are there any RPGs where you can let your companions drag you to the evil side
In before Camfags say she does this, she doesn't, the game obviously expects you to be evil like her
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>>736491867
Skill issue. play a 10 year old KC. who cares if anyone thinks you're a gnome?
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>>736492773
You can completely ruin her and turn her back into a demon
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>>736476592
Alignments are stupid in general. Instead of facilitating creativity in making characters and stories it makes nerds pidgeonhole them into inflexible restrictive categories and endlessly argue about the definitions of them.
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>>736493764
owljews slop is unplayable without toybox to make alignment non perscriptive
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sex with Nurah Dendiwhar
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>>736493825
Impossible due to owlfucks not allowing you to impale her on your massive trickster cock
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>>736492056
Not required but if you do like WOTR a lot then you might be sad to see some content missing in Kingmaker like classes, races etc.

Kingmaker is a lower stakes plot and probably easier for a newcomer but arguably less interesting. I prefer Wrath but I get why a lot of people prefer Kingmaker. They are both very long games so if you value your time then I would try Wrath first.
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>>736474248
It annoys me that hazbin hotel had a creative take on this, only to devolve into faggot drama and trump seething.
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>>736474398
All can be redeemed through the power of Christ, even you, you fucking mongoloid
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>>736493696
She exclusively likes shotas
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>>736474248
>Demon girls are cute and breedable
catched mid air.
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>>736474972
every year she gets more attractive to me. I really want to get inside her tummy. what the fuck
I'm pretty sure this is how rats feel when they get infected with toxoplasmosis
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>>736479801
That power is useless when you can get the same shit but without sacrificing your cock in the process. i gladly become a demon rather than a lichcel
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>>736474248
Just tell her to burn the table, and she will return to her old self.
She even tells you, at a later date, how embarrassing she finds her whole "redemption" phase.
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>>736495259
Least mentally ill cambro
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>>736494402
Christianity, the ultimate cuck religion.
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>>736474972
I genuinely think that Cam's tongue rimmed more demon ass while she was at the brothel than Arue did in her entire life.
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>>736479801
>Do Lich run
>Need to sacrifice my Camcam
>Take the redemption pill and follow the Gold dragon
>Keep my Camcam

I've done seven runs, and I've romanced Camellia, and completed her quest in all of them.
Including angel and aeon. (Aeon had to swap to legend to keep her)
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>>736474398
>>736474248
Based hallucination maxxers.
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>>736483860
>KC Angel who wants to genocide all demons
>his loving succubus gf
Kino trope
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>>736495395
It's her goddamned psycho eyes and the fact that she's just a bratty cunt without any other motive other than legitimately being mentally ill and corrupt. like she knows damn well people want to fix her and takes every advantage she can get to pull their hearts.
Daeran and Arue? cuddle bait.
But Camellia's eyes has a spark that sends people 6 feet under. due to the game's pitiful writing it's usually her but still
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>>736496029
>angel
Yakumo is legend
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>>736474248
If an angel can fall, then why would a demon not be able to rise up and be better?
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>>736496029
I keep seeing this image. Yet I have never met, or even heard about any men that minds telling you what his salary is.
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>>736495983
>no [requires demon mythic path] to shut that bitch's dumb mouth about expensive perfumes and other fancy shit in the middle of a fucking war and fuck her until she's reduced to a messy sweaty panting feral animal in heat
no wonder she doesn't get fixed in this game
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>>736496218
Because a fall is faster i guess.
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>>736474248
The demons are fucking evil in the game and Arue is the exception, evil other demon encounter they are trying to fuck you over repeatedly, how do I know I assumed just like you said that it was the trope of the game. It's not the case
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>>736496473
It is, and that's why evil outsiders turning good is more rare. Evil is easier
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>>736496372
this but throw her to the wolves in alushinyrra so she'll get raped by demons
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>>736475152
Fixed your shitty headcanon dyketranny
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>>736476592
Chaotic Good will use any means necessary to enforce "Good" (will over laws) rather than "Law over Will" route (getting the authority on their side first prior acting out the plan.) Its basically "Self vs Society" dichotomy. Lawful seek approval from the community as a whole, Chaotic people seek nobody else's approval but their own.
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>>736496509
Did the Arue pic not make it obvious that OP is baiting for replies?
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>>736496760
>Chaotic Good will use any means necessary
Doesn't sound good, more like neutral
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>>736495983
What an absolutely disgusting cunt. One of these days I'm gonna do a lichad playthrough specifically so I can use her as a sacrifice.
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>>736496913
How many of these do you think Cam fucked?
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>>736496913
He turns into a shota btw.
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>>736496963
everyone and possibly the viewer too
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>>736483135
>revirginized
lol that isn't going to take back Chad's cock having been in there retard. What a fucking retarded made up word. Wow, her hymn in back! Who the fuck cares? She's still been fucked.
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>>736496963
Zero, Camellia is a classy lady that limits herself to getting gangbanged by handsome incubi.
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>>736496979
>still has the whip
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>>736496831
You are a retard then; Neutral is apathetic one way or another towards the topic. Think of it like "passive" rather than Active for either cause. If I were Chaotic Neutral; I would do whatever my whims tell me to do. If I were Lawful Neutral; I would be able to do whatever the laws allow me to do; Without caring about ethics or morality as long as I do it for my own personal benefit rather than out of sheer malice (evil.)
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>>736497101
>Who the fuck cares?
You used to back when you used to complain about (literal) roasties, but then the revirginized argument came in and you had to move on to "muh memories"
I know how you work
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>>736483497
>Beholder
Don't they reproduce asexually? And I'm pretty sure even if they didn't, they're so nsanely egotistical that they would vomit at the idea of coupling with anything but a perfect clone of itself, and even turn they'd still find a reason to try to kill each other.
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>>736496963
>Literal cannon that Arue fucked it.
>Aruefag instantly tries to deflect to Camcam
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>>736497308
Beholders don't even exist in the Pathfinder universe because WotC's licensing issues, but it's not like he cares about that when typing his fantasies.
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what's the best build for "FUCK MAGIC" kind of guy
kinda want to make a anti-mage character
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>>736483159
>Its one of Christs biggest teachings, no?
Only for humans.
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>It's okay that my wife has had thousands uppon thousands of sexual partners, including the most vile and distusting creatures to even exist, because her hyem is now intact, and she regrets it.
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>>736497335
Of course it's canon. Arue fucked the meat ball, Cam fucked demons and slaves at the brothel. All canon
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>>736497472
Lich Magus with devouring magic.
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>>736497495
You're mentally ill, go seek professional help immediately.
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>>736496913
Evilrue was a futa succubus and we all know that meatball demons have the best holes. don't lie, you would too if you could
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>>736497634
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Cambro found the thread I see
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>>736496218
They can, it's just much more difficult. Evil is generally easier and feels better, especially to a being that's already made of Evil.
Falling is easier than climbing.
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>>736497674
evil arue faking being redeemd and then raping ember point blank and impregnating her with aruedemons
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>>736478059
You sound like a compulsively seething faggot, to be honest
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>>736497790
I already had my way with Ember in a dirty Kenabres alleyway
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>>736497798
Everything I said is true, in fact, you're shitposting right now and proving me right.
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>The year is 2020+6
>waifu wars are still ongoing
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>>736497634
lol seething
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>>736483159
There's a reason why Lucifer is still a fallen angel, they can't repent once they have broken their programming. Think of Angels/Daemons like lines of programming if you corrupt one of them with a virus; you better just wipe it out and erase the hardware. There's no salvation for those that have known God and have believed to go astray from them PRIOR their creation. (Ergo supernatural beings); You as a human are unaware of God and his creation prior your birth. There in lies your saving grace.
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>>736497790
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>>736497418
Fair, just using the beholder specifically as an example bothered me because a beholder would never stoop down to that level.
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threesome with Minagho and Chivarro
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>>736497879
The only waifu war that matters is the OG holy war. Rei vs Asuka(PBUH).
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>>736497418
>>736498160
Floating Eyes exist they are essentially Beholders but ID stripped off. If it has an eyeball and its floating with bunch of tentacles and spray/beam weapons? That's a Beholder.
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>>736498346
Yeah but Asukachads already won the war so it's pointless now.
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>>736498346
Mari won
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>>736497335
only Camcucks bringnup the meatball, because they've genuinely convinced themselves that fucking some ugly monster in the past is worse than getting literally cucked, which is what Cam does
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>>736474248
Goes to show you can say anyone has a hobby for kidnapping people to super detroit and turning them into skin dresses, as long as it has a vagina it'll get a pass
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>>736498756
Yes the only thing that matters is what makes my dick hard.
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>>736498756
I'm willing to forgive male demons too, as long as they see stick to it and don't hurt an innocent again
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>>736498882
shelyn...
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>>736498882
And as long as it happens in a timeframe you're not interested in
No one would spare Nahyndri just because they knew he would eventually regret raping and butchering a bajillion people
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>>736498756
Cute girls should always be forgiven faggot.
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>>736498964
Shelyn is a retard that insists on forgiving people even if they feel no remorse and keep killing innocents, Sarenrae is better
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>>736499064
Nahyndri is based because he managed to make a angel girl addicted to his cock so much that he she want "i can fix him"
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>>736499064
That involves seeing the future and I can't do that. He has to say sorry and commit to it, if not he dies
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>>736497495
>because her hyem is now intact
This but in unironically. Imagine having waifu with an used up roast beef.
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>>736499245
It takes not only seeing the future but ignoring the past to believe in redemption for a corrupt soul. Inherently retarded concept.
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Arue is not for dick. Arue is only for women.
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>>736499503
Good. She deserves their neuroticisms.
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give Daeran boyfriend...
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>>736499671
>gnome
Gay. Daeran is for fem halflings only.
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>>736499503
Arue was tailor-made for men and the only reason why she's bi is because she's a succubus and they're attracted to everything. If Owlcat was based they would have made her so straight, abandoning being dyke just like she abandoned promiscuousness.
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>>736499421
No, you just need to be a good judge of character, and take responsibility because if said person undergoing redemption hurts an innocent then that'll be on you
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>>736500698
>you just need to practice favoratism
Shan't. It's my moral obligation to mete out justice if I am the only one in a position to do so. I will not prioritize the criminal over the victim solely from distinction between living and dead.
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>>736500597
Lol no. Arue is made for rejecting the endless parade of dicks that ruined her after being saved by a Goddess and embracing a new life with a loving female KC
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murdering repentant criminals is only subtraction. if a criminal redeems themselves, then they can be good. it's a subtraction in evil and an addition in goodness.

if redemption isn't possible, there would be no reason to try and be better.
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>>736501129
Did you kill Regill?
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>>736484598
Red Oni in japan are more likely to be heroic while Blue Oni are always evil. It's why in Devil May Cry Dante is the hero and Vergil is the villain
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>>736501358
If justice isn't sought, there would be no reason to try and be better. Why bother when the guilty will just have their punishments waived?

>>736501424
The sunfags accepted hellknight leadership, they knew what they were getting into. It's a completely different beast than the duplicitous corruption of a demon.
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>>736499304
That tail is not part of her spine wtf
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As a chaotic good desnan I still wouldn't fully trust the redemption.
As any flavor of Lawtist she shouldn't get a chance.
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>>736501535
Look up "restorative justice"
>>736501424
He just wants to use the law to satisfy his own bloodthirst and cruelty.
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>>736474248
PRAY!
KILL!
BURN!
PRAY!
KILL!
BURN!
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>>736501639
Where was Dimalchio's part in Arueshalae's "restorative justice"? Where where the rest of her victims? She doesn't deserve it.
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>>736501639
I wouldn't say that about Regill at all. If he were just in it for that he wouldn't defer to you at all.
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Its pointless to argue with aruefags. She makes their dick hard and that's all that matters. You can't reason with a hard dick.
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>>736501746
I'm talking about this anon>>736501535
Just Law without Good.
>>736501726
Dimalchio was corrupted and evil. He wanted to kill Arue and (You). I offered him mercy as well, and he rejected it. Even the Song of Elysium didn't work against him. Another one of the tragedies of the Abyss.
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>>736501835
that applies to every girl, not just Arue
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>>736501913
>torturing dimalchio with the song representing everything he had to give up
Lol, lmao, lulz even. Too bad no one present had the idea of bringing him in unwillingly, an unwilling rehabilitation program exactly like the one Arueshalae was afforded. Had to clean up Arue's dirty work after all.
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>>736501204
There was nothing to ruin because she was an evil demon to begin with. After embracing goodness she has abolished depravity and will only engage in a non-degenerate(straight) romance.
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>>736501835
I want to end "through dick, unity" once and for all
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The only way for Arueshalae to make up for her crimes is to birth me an army of half-demon half-dragon babies.
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>be free-spirited azata chad living, laughing and loving
>meet beautiful succubus who tempts you into falling
>she takes you to the abyss, cucks and dumps you
>wallow in bitterness and pity
>eventually she comes back for you
>tells you she can help you return to elysium, all you need to do is commit a few heinous acts for her entertainment
>cucks you again and humiliates you
>spend the rest of your days seething and coping
>living in alushynirra so everything reminds you of her
>one day she returns again, this time with a new azata bf who coincidentally looks a lot like you, only noticeably several inches taller, richer, mythic and has a bigger dick
>this time she's preaching redemption, how you can come back to the side of "good"
>not falling for your tricks for a third time whore
>they sing the song of elysium and mindbreak you
>all the memories come flooding back
>have a psychotic meltdown
>they proceed to kill you and burn your house down
dimalchio really had... a hard life
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>gives a free reformed succ gf
>went scorched earth on a demon lord because said demon lord killed one of her followers
>has a harem of the other gods and goddesses
Desna is based and the best Goddess
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>Arue can't be forgiven because of the heinous acts she commited before
>Dimalchio should have been given an opportunity to repent (beyond the one Arue already offered him) despite the heinous acts he's commited
I'm noticing
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>>736502384
Who is in Desna's harem?
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>>736502384
>whore goddess gives you a used up whore she ran through the celestial washing machine
T-thanks desna..
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>>736502525
>man and woman are treated differently
waow
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>>736502528
Shelyn and Saranrae
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>>736502659
and Cayden
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>>736502525
It doesn't take a genius to notice that Arue bothers him because she's Arue
It's why he cuck posts so much about her while ignoring the literal cuck options
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>>736502551
More like she used material made out of whore to create a brand new pair of whorish underwear for you but she made you wear the raw string as she was knitting it together.
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>>736502525
>uses examples of hypocrisy to suggest the argument was always about that faggot in particular
Thank you based strawman kings.
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>>736502082
Then why aren't you crying to Desna then?
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>>736502997
Desna doesn't exist, my posts are made to give mary sue enablers a reality check.
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>>736501535
>The sunfags accepted hellknight leadership
They quite literally did not, Regill murdered their soldiers, CRUSADER soldiers, without their input, they only accepted his (temporary) leadership while they were attacked, but his killing of the wounded soldiers happened before that.
And when confronted about it his justification is "well, we're Hellknights, those were our orders" okay, you can kill all your soldiers if you want, but those were crusaders. Regill is lucky that his writer doesn't allow you to point this out however, and that his fans are not smart enough to notice it.
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>>736474248
They will make literal demons relatable but get upset when someone calls another person a nigger.
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>>736503070
>mary sue
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>>736503175
Nigger when you accept joint command, regardless of whether you're part of their regiment or not, one commander has to be the top dog to prevent useless squabbling. That top dog is clearly Regill who is giving orders to the other crusaders. They may not have been hellknights as of that moment but they were part of Regill's command and bound to follow his orders.
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>>736498672
But it is worse.
I would rather have a girlfriend that cheats on me, than a girlfriend that has fucked a nigger. And the meatball is arguable just as bad.
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>>736503341
why did you put the cuck option on the white side
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>>736503441
>I would rather have a girlfriend that cheats on me
I know, Camgod, I know
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>>736474398
It's a half-hearted effort to return to subjective morality, turning back the morality dial to a time before common law where the elite could despoil whoever they please under their station a-la the Olympians, particularly Zeus, without becoming a pariah for the act. Or a Roman consul beating up plebians like a common school bully and then paying them small coin purses for the "service."
By all accounts, it is working.
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>>736502097
It really makes you cope and sneed that Arue is so blatantly yuri coded. Sorry but you have to put your dick somewhere else anon.
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>>736503490
brown people love to project their cuckoldry fetish on whites
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>>736502384
>shows up and asks you face to face to teach Arue genuine love
Haha she's alright. Became a desan after that
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>>736475152
This is the only good post in the thread, arue yurichad never fails to amuse me, so many niggas seething kek
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>>736503985
>replied to himself again award
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>>736496327
Its a trope from every job. thats how you know its a poor attempt at agitprop. They love that shit at corporate workshops because you find out someone else is making more thna you for doing the same or less and not only that but they are terrible at their job is incredibly disheartening and incentivising to being just as big a fuck up or to abuse the system.
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>>736503673
Redeemed demons are the browns of the upper planes
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>>736501424
Do you really have to ask? Muh justice larpers don't actually carer about justice, they're just lawtards, that's why they always make up excuses to justify their favorite flavor of evil, lawful. If Arue was lawful they wouldn't give a fuck, either.
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>>736483695
Doesn't it involve time travel? I don't know i never played the game and thats like the one way its possible but we dont live in time travel magic land.
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>>736478470
>even if you erase yourself from existence and rewrite a century of history turning her back into a demon she still remains loyal to you and never has sex, becoming an actual unironic virgin succubus
There's also the possibility that she's older than the worldwound, meaning she could still be a former whore.
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>>736504151
Not everyone is as unprincipled as you, anon. Inability to see different perspectives is a sign of mental illness.
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>>736504184
INCORRECT. You also affect your companions that are still older than the worldwound itself, this include Arueshalae, Galfrey and both midgets
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>>736504132
>upper planes
Good thing she's a mortal then
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>>736504327
Yes that's what I'm saying. She is older than the period her memories would return in. Ergo her proclivities still could have occurred.
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>>736504404
>She is older than the period her memories would return in
Care to provide a source of their memories only returning at some specific point in time?
Actually why do I even entertain you when the ending literally says that demons made bets trying to see who would be the first one to fuck her?
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Arue won. bigly. she raped her other competition into the ground
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>>736504521
It's kinda hard not to win when you have to compete with WotR's romanceable cast, they're so garbage it's impressive. So far Regina from the Expanse appears like she's going to sweep even more than her though, but that may change if she ends up being an insufferable cunt
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Once a whore, you're nothing more, I'm sorry, that'll never change.
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>>736504493
The timeline only resets to before the worldwound occured. So if Arue fucked anyone before then, it would remain the same.
>demons made bets trying to see who would be the first one to fuck her
They're pretty uneducated beings and the Abyss is quite large.
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>>736497798
Read this entire thread and tell me with a straight face that it's not true, every single example he mentioned has shitposted about her kek
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>>736474248
I just thought it was the writer's purification fetish.
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>>736474398
>victim of demonic child sacrificing oligarchs revolting against media that posits that evil is more than skin deep
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>>736504652
>Whores don't get a second chance
my friend and I still quote that stupid movie to this day
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The same anons who seethe endlessly about Chad and Stacey will in the very next thread defend the honor of a literal slot demon. You can't make this shit up kek. Fucking zoomers.
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>>736504694
>The timeline only resets to before the worldwound occured
You mess with your companions' memories so they'll remember you, Gaybore is older than the Worldwound and yet he still took the decision to stay with his family
>They're pretty uneducated beings
A literal virgin succubus would only motivate them even more to rape her, that's the entire reason why they make wagers. If she had sex before this novelty would be lost
>and the Abyss is quite large
She lives in Alushynirra
The point was that she was so obsessed and loyal to you that she was unwilling to have sex with anyone despite being a literal succubus, who feels the instinctive need to rape everyone she sees and not doing so is torture for her, that's the woman you've been cuckposting about for 4 years and counting, while the alternatives walk up to your friends and ask them to please breed them
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>>736505198
>and Stacey
The kind of person that bitches about irl Stacies is exactly the kind that hates Arue, or any kind of non-virgin woman in crpgs for that matter.
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Can we talk about builds instead of endless cucking sessions? I'm interested in Magic Deceiver, but the fact that it only gets up to level 6 spells bothers me a bit, though some of the fused spells are stronger than some level 9 spells even. Has anyone tried the class? I want to do it as a Trickster, even though they get almost nothing for casters, is that a good idea?
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>>736505198
The best part is their main "defence" of Arue, is just attacking Camellia.
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>>736474454
No I want dlc to give her a Trickster ending where I make her spirit real as a prank and we go live happily ever after being psycho serial killers
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>>736505450
There's plenty of defense of Arue without mentioning your hotwife though?
She's attacked because anyone who has spent enough time here knows who shitposts the most about Arue. If you're not one of them sorry, blame your fellows for being so annoying, and Owlcat for making her cuck you, there was no need to write that
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>>736505387
Yeah deveiver is absurdly broken even without 9th spells.
>trickster
nope. if you want MAXIMUM output like a autist than go Azata or Demon because anything that raises the spell dc is good for you
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>>736505387
Trickster does get unlimited uses of the rod of magical affinity but I still think Azata is better like the other anon mentioned
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>>736504281
Post hulrun and regill kills then
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>>736504521
To be fair she's kinda the most romance-bait/waifu-bait character of the game just like cassia in rogue trader. I still fell for it both times so clearly the system works. Granted I'm also the kind of RPG player that flirts and sleeps with everyone before the romance lock-in so I'm also pretty easy( Yes this includes daeran and marzipan)
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>Zappy magic
>favorable magic
>persistent metamagic
>every enchantment enhancing piece of equipment
>the joke mythic feat
>hideous laughter
imagine not being able to stun-lock the entire map with just one spell
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>>736506660
>just like cassia in rogue trader
Cassia isn't that popular compared with the competition. Kibellah is just as popular as her, it's a toss-up which one wins, and Yrliet is a clear third place but not by much. Kingmaker was the same with the twins and Nyrissa, plus Octavia and Valerie are popular too. WotR was so shit that Arue just sweeped.
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>>736505387
Zippy Magic Magic deceiver best jokes does not work and I hate owlcat for this treachery
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>>736474398
>debilitating tradition good
why do people like you exist?
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>>736505590
Fuck off. It's been like this from the start. Aruefags just assume any criticism about her is from a Camlord, and will attack Camellia in some kind of retarded sense of retribution.
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>>736474398
mite kure (at this terrible post)
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>>736506816
Honestly i agree with you. aside from Arue every romance option is bland. i wouldn't have minded a Targona companion+romance or even that red dragon in act 3 in a human form because i am not a scaliefag
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>>736506880
Who cares? You can already make everything an AoE.
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>>736504521
>Normal babies
>No wings she wished to keep
Abyssal taint from her heritage is NOT the abyssal evil purged from her soul. Arue owes me tieflings
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>>736474398
Only YTs are like that. The problem will fix itself.
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>>736505692
>if you want MAXIMUM output like a autist than go Azata or Demon because anything that raises the spell dc is good for you
I want to pick trickster for flavor, I don't care about min maxing everything like an autist.
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>>736507025
>Fuck off. It's been like this from the start
Lmao yeah sure keep telling yourself that, Camcuck
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>>73647424
you never touched the game
You are just making shit up
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>>736507126
I do i wanted my chaining aoe laughy fireballs
Are there spell expansion mods for magic deceiver?
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>>736507156
The wings are not there because the artist clearly had no idea how to draw them with the commander being in the way
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>>736507083
Even that flirty succubus advisor you get if you go full demon and behead Yozz is better than most of em. Even goes and fights Vellexia for your dick
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>>736496857
The nonstop niggers cuckposting almost made me forget to post this
https://litter.catbox.moe/43bt7k2ki971ocs9.zip
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>>736507481
Succubus wings should pass down for all of arue's babies
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>>736507558
yeah she's super based
and the succ in the midnight fane
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>>736507083
Anon no that dragon is a single mom
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>>736492576
There's this fine print that you cannot be saved if you mock the holy spirit, Just him tho, Like you can apologize for mocking God or Jesus, but the holy spirit is a no no
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>>736503650
>It really makes you cope and sneed that Arue is so blatantly yuri coded
Bro you only think that because you're a man pretending to be a woman. You can put on a dress all you want, at the end of the day you're still a guy, a guy who is attracted to something that most guys are attracted to
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>>736507156
they have angelic wings just like their father that they can hide/unhide at will
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>>736507452
There is one that removes the level 6 cap, let's you merge with every single mythic path and let's you learn every single spell from scrolls. It's absolutely completely overpowered to shit.
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>>736507670
the storyteller can read the whelps a bedtme story while we fuck in my chambers
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>>736507670
Just eat the eggs
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>>736507670
Nothing wrong with being a father to them. atleast their mom is hot
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>>736508306
>you don't have to tell me what happaned, Knight Commander, but you do have to eat all my eggs
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>kicks you into hell for being too successful and making her look bad
>fires Setsuna Shy
>gets the entire crusade army slaughtered in suicide missions in less than half a year
what the fuck was this old hag's problem?
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>>736508593
Every man dreams of eating monster eggs
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>>736504937
It is, /vpol/'s brain is just rotted
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Postan in a genuine retard thread.
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>>736509146
Her problem is that Owlcat tried to make her a relatable flawed character who let her jealousy get the better of her but they forgot to give her redeeming qualities and screentime so the end result is some retarded cunt almost nobody likes
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>enter thread
>the arue cuck poster is still here after all these years
i kinda admire the dedication, but holy fucking mental illness
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>>736508593
this but cam
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>>736510664
>poster
>implying it's a single person
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>>736510716
Your posting style is immediately recognizable to anyone who has experience with these threads lad
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>>736510889
Arueshalae has been getting cuckposted ever since before the game was even out
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>GW2
Demons are..
>victims
>misunderstood
>JUST like us!
>cute! (but not because of their design)
>totally hecking vegetarino!
but also
>freak ass spiny nightmare fuel creatures
>literally want to invade the world and kill people
>they have a king and queen, but somehow after killing them, you help a woman demon become the king instead of queen
>act like tourists in the "world of the living"

I've never been so appalled by gw2 writing, nothing they did prior comes even close to as disgusting as this was
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>>736498756
to be fair, Kratos has a LOT of incentive to ignore the actions of the past
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>>736507558
Why would you ever fight Vellexia??
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>>736512295
To teach that flighty whore a lesson. No, getting demon dick isn't a lesson, it's a reward.
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Eldritch Archer, Mutation Warrior, Ranger. Slayer or Hunter for an archer MC?
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>>736512575
zen archer
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>>736512575
Kinetic archer
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I'm playing a Demon Cavalier planning on going Legend, can I keep Demonic Charge somehow
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>>736512737
No, and you don't need it, just use the DLC cloak that lets you teleport as a swift action at level 20
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>>736512698
Aren't they limited to a single attack per turn? And their whole quiver mechanic seems too finicky
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>>736474248
She fucks shotas
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>>736474248
humans are like demons and that's why I will kill everyone
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>>736512295
sauce?
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>>736514901
It's not done yet
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>>736515056
you are shitting yourself
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>>736515345
What
It's still a WIP
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>>736474398
>I masturbate to anime children, let me tell you what's degenerate about society!
Only on /v/.
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>>736512575
demonslayer ranger is the most stacked class in the game
>full bab
>pet (pets are OP as fuck in WotR)
>favored enemies against ALL demons
>decent buff spells
>good amount of bonus feats
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>>736476592
When did he say that? Or where? Source?
Because it doesn't sound anything like some other stuff he said on alignment:
>"Paladins are not stupid, and in general there is no rule of Lawful Good against killing enemies. The old adage about nits making lice applies. Also, as I have often noted, a paladin can freely dispatch prisoners of Evil alignment that have surrendered and renounced that alignment in favor of Lawful Good. They are then sent on to their reward before they can backslide.

An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is by no means anything but Lawful and Good. Prisoners guilty of murder or similar capital crimes can be executed without violating any precept of the alignment. Hanging is likely the usual method of such execution, although it might be beheading, strangulation, etc. A paladin is likely a figure that would be considered a fair judge of criminal conduct.
I am not going to waste my time and yours debating ethics and philosophy. I will state unequivocally that in the alignment system as presented in OAD&D, an eye for an eye is lawful and just, Lawful Good, as misconduct is to be punished under just laws.

Lawful Neutrality countenances malign laws. Lawful Good does not.

Mercy is to be displayed for the lawbreaker that does so by accident. Benevolence is for the harmless. Pacifism in the fantasy milieu is for those who would be slaves. They have no place in determining general alignment, albeit justice tempered by mercy is a NG manifestation, whilst well-considered benevolence is generally a mark of Good." -Gary Gygax 2005
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>>736515718
Why are pets OP, I'm >>736512737 and my horse keeps getting deleted
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>>736476592
>the divine law can't be evil
>Anything that masquerades as law but is evil is in fact the definition of chaos
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>>736516114
They're super tanky, they can deal a decent amount of damage, some of them can trip with every attack, mounted characters retain the ability to full attack after moving and when they die they get resurrected on a rest.
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>>736516114
There are a few factors.
First of all, the enemy AI is coded to almost always attack a horse first before the rider. Consider the fact that when your horse gets killed, that's means your horse was effectively an extremely huge amount of bonus hitpoints for your other characters (putting aside AoE attacks). Also since enemies have a very high preference to target pets with melee and ranged attacks, that means you can mostly ignore armor class on any character that uses mounted combat and just make the pet have high AC.
Another factor is that pets can take teamwork feats if you raise their int to 3 or put a headband of int on them, and a few of the teamwork feats are very strong. Particularly Outflank is EXTREMELY strong, especially late game with combat reflexes and improved critical you will will get massive amounts of free attacks if you put outflank on your whole party. Shake it Off is also really good.
Aside from teamwork feats and being a massive meat shield, they also allow their riders to do a full attack when they're at a distance from the enemy for melee characters. Normally you have to move and then attack that can really cripple your damage output.
The final point is that a few pets have automatic trip abilities, particularly wolves and dogs will trip enemies surprisingly often since every single bit they do is a trip proc, especially if you give them trip focused feats. Dogs and Wolves also grow larger and can be riden at like level 7.

And on top of all that, they actually do pretty high damage on their own. And you're getting all of this pretty much for "free" from just one class ability.
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>>736516343
I mean when my Cav gets to swing he deletes enemies but I'm not sure my horse qualifies as super tanky. I even took Tougness and Light Barding and he still gets beat up

>>736516434
Okay so I guess my horse getting beat up is just him paying for my party's crimes? Also I'm only in Act 2 and I think I'm about to be able to level his int, is it better to do that or find a headband? I didn't know horses could wear equipment beyond barding
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Rank each mythic path
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>>736516760
Demon -> Legend > Angel > Demon > Legend
The rest don't matter
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>>736516643
you should get your horse an amulet of mighty fists if you can, it will improve their damage output a lot. There are also some other pet-only equipment besides barding like some "gloves" that act like weapons. I hope you realized you have to manually level up your horse by the way and don't just have him still sitting at level 0 with 5 hitpoints
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>>736516760
Based Tier:
Legend

Actual content tier:
Lich, Angel, Trickster, Aeon

Half Baked tier:
Swarm, Demon

Literally fucking nothing tier:
Gold Dragon, Devil
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>>736517058
>demon
>half baked
>actual content
>lich and trickster
You didn't play the game
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>>736517058
Didn't Devil get a bunch of new shit?
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>>736517058
>didn't even include Azata
kek
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>>736517101
I consider adding new companions to the game as extremely significant in terms of content since it effects the moment-to-moment gameplay so much, so I give Lich and Trickster a lot of bonus points for that.
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>>736517243
Yeah well, I don't. Might as well make a merc, that barely even counts. And trickster doesn't add any companions
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>>736517302
oh i was mixing up trickster with azata lol
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>>736499304
I was promised a swimsuit Arueshalae for DLC6
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>>736509146
She's a woman.
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The facts about Arue are:
>Millenia old devious sex demon, but regrets it despite her innate nature
>Can redeem herself if allowed to
>Is loyal to the KC if romanced
Arue being so divisive is caused by both sides of the argument being purityfags at their core.
The pro-Arue side argues that since she has ascended and has been remade by Desna, she is pure. The anti-Arue side argues that she can never be pure as she still has all the memories of her past life.
There will never be an agreement between the two sides, since the argument is basically a schism in the church of Purityfagging over whether in a setting in which the physical form can be remade, purity is restored by the act of remaking.
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>>736518515
Arue is overwhelmingly popular, the only character that is just as or more popular than her is Regill, /v/ is just contrarian central as always
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>>736517243
the Lich companions are essentially mercenaries you can't customize
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>>736518515
>The pro-Arue side argues that since she has ascended and has been remade by Desna, she is pure
Nah, just that she was revirginized, that's all. She still remembers everything, not like it's a problem unless you're really insecure (which half this board is)
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>>736516760
>actual paths
Demon, Angel, Azata, Aeon, Lich
>you barely tried but you DID try
Trickster, Legend
>why did you even bother
Swarm, Devil, Gold Dragon
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>>736519063
This is what I meant by calling it a schism, you are both purityfags and will not budge from your stances.
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>>736474248
For me (Lawful Good Angel Aasimar), it's Galfrey.
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>>736519292
I just told you that she's not pure
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>>736518515
what about you? what do you think?
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>>736519574
I don't mind Arue, she has funny interactions with the party and the awkwardness in the Abyss when every other demon goes "Good to see you back!" is great.
The dream collecting for the purification wasn't exactly the greatest of ways to show of her personality and growth off in my opinion, but otherwise she was fine.
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>>736519804
the entire point of collecting dreams is that she was not supposed to do that. Also that's not what I asked, is she pure or not?
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total chaos death
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Oh god... I just realised why I haven't had any scenes with Viconia yet... She doesn't date Elf's... I'm sixty hours into the game...!! I already paired up my number 2 choice with the Bard!! Who can I even pivot to...? Jahera? She's been on the bench all game and I've actively avoided doing her quests. Neera? I hate her friends. I can't even test out the gay route cause Dorn came onto me mid dungeon and I shut him down immediately... Isn't Jahera's romance meant to be really long too? I've already done my grind. I won't finish it
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>>736520258
Pathfinder?
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Why can't you choose Aroden as your god? I want to be a human supremacist.
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>>736519851
She is both.
She has overcome her lowly beginnings and has been remade, but she will always have committed the impure acts. The two natures aren't contradictory in Arue's case as her story is all about redemption.
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>>736520407
because he's literally fucking dead
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>>736520407
He got replaced
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>>736520407
Play RT if you want to worship a corpse
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>>736520638
hheheh
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>>736520407
Imagine playing as a paladin or cleric with no powers.
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>>736520407
Wrong setting.
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>>736517481
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>can't find shit on Arue/corrupted GD
No one plays this huh. Guess I'll do it myself and see if there's anything to screenshot. Think she gets some exclusive lines depending on your mythic path in DoM too. I'll do it for all the girls actually.
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Can i play Wrath of the Righteous (and other owlcat games) like i would a waifubating jrpg? i.e. only caring for the girls?
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>>736521664
There is nothing outside of the lines you get when romancing her as a demon
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>>736476478
>>The whole game is about a crusade against demons even if you to choose to kinda become one
I wish they had expansion packs that added more to the mythic quests orthogonal to the wouldwound plot. It worked really well as a way to fill out the journey to become a lich; it was nice seeing how the crusade responds to your increasingly inhumane methods.

But it did feel like there was a lot left on the table. I wanted more "a lich battling a demon invasion" and less "a lich who is also coincidentally the crusade of the humans battling against a demon invasion".

I geuss that'd be swarm path actually.
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>>736521763
The girls fucking suck mostly (especially that one) so no
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I want to get Camcam pregnant and have her threaten the child constantly, but keep fucking her while pregnant. Then she gives birth, she takes the child, polymorphs into a snake, and swallows it whole. Then she demands that my character fucks her while she's digesting the child because she wanted to feel what that's like.
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>>736521782
Oh sad. Well I'll play it anyway since I think the aesthetics and theme are pretty good.
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>>736522003
This but the child is not yours
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>>736474248
But anon WOTR is a game all about how you shouldn't feel at all bad about slaughtering millions of demons, and in fact should aim for the coolest ways possible to make your computer crash from the sheer amount of corpses on screen. The exceptions are mainly treated as very exceptional and there are only two of them in Arue and Areelu, who needed a god and is an upjumped human respectively
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Would Arueshalae be kinky in bed or did Desna's inversion turn her into a pillow princess
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>>736522403
What is your definition of kinky?
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>>736522449
Whatever Camellia feels like doing after she kills someone
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>>736522571
Camellia just has sex, regular sex. So yes I guess she's kinky then
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>>736522243
>and Areelu
You mean Nocticula?
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>>736474248
I only played the game once and didn't romance anyone because I was too retarded to pick the good option; but seeing all option are used goods, i'm glad I stuck with my nigga Regill through everything
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>>736522403
I think what a demon considers "kinky" is way past what a mortal imagines it to be. Arue would probably be down for some freaky (though monogamous if her dialogue is any indication) shit and not even consider it to be so.
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She's cute and kind with a two foot long tongue and a vagina that is designed by satan to make men ejaculate
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>>736522790
She stabs you mid orgasm
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>>736523102
>to make men ejaculate
Isn't that every vagina?
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>>736523107
That's what she does with her victims, not after her kills
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>>736522223
BASED
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>>736523102
>and kind
The ideal woman
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>>736523358
No she stabs you mid orgasm. A nonlethal stab but still
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>>736479801
>lose dick
>sacrifice love interest
>become an evil asshole
>only to be ~80% as powerful as an angel or azata
Lichcels, not even once.
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>>736524102
>He didn't wizardmaxx and abandon Lich for Legend once he got all the cool spells
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>>736524290
>dick still gone
>love interest still dead
Lmao, that's even worse
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>>736516110
>Benevolence is for the harmless. Pacifism in the fantasy milieu is for those who would be slaves.
Man we give boomers a lot of deserved shit but they really did go hard sometimes
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>>736524363
If you go Legend you don't bones yourself
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>>736518515
Might as well argue that if you get an artificial hymen surgery (yes, they exist) then you're magically "pure" again if you think pro-Arue has a leg to stand on
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Which class is the sexiest
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>>736525640
Dungeons and Dragons tradition is that Bards are the designated sex pest class and crush the most pussy. Barbarian is also up there.
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>>736525207
No duh artificial hymens restore a woman's purity. Are you fucking stupid?
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>>736523151
Nah normal pussies are designed for pissing
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>>736476284
>LAWFUL GOOD PALADIN
>BLOND HAIR BLUE EYES
>CALL MYSELF ADOLF ARYAN
>ALL THE GIRLS IN THE CAMP BELONG TO ME AND CAN ONLY HAVE SEX WITH ME! THEY ALL MUST BE NICE TO ME WHO IMMEDIATELY FALL IN LOVE ME, AND NO KEKING!
>KILL ALL THE DISGUSTING NON-HUMANS AND BLACKS (game is shit if I become a fallen paladin)
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>>736525938
>Barbarian
Really?
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>>736526356
Barbarians are the most pure testosterone class so they like their blond bimbos
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>>736525978
Acting stupid on the internet for attention, even if you're doing so intentionally and ironically, is not a good use of your time, Anon.
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>>736526597
This thread wouldn't have hit bump limit if anyone agreed with you.
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>>736526637
So after everyone finishes jumping off a bridge, I can count on you to do what's right, can't I anon?
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>>736527029
Already on it, chief.
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>>736474248
Somewhat interested in this game? Is it actually good or is it another case of people playing the game for one waifu?
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>>736527813
it's a case of people playing an overall mediocre game because it tickles their autism, and also there is a waifu
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>>736474398
You are an actual idiot. Variations on established themes or conventions is the fundamental basis of originality. 99% of everything wouldn't exist if people didn't take a thing that already exists and put their spin on it.
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>>736474248
a redemption arc is not the same as being 'misunderstood'. quite the opposite really



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