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Can they be balanced?
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More like MaraGone lmaooooooooooo
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this game looks so gay
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>>736475170
In what way
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>>736475195
I'm trans so I project it on the game
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Marathon's got the juice to go the distance!
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>>736475029
>Can they be balanced?
CS solved this 25 years ago. Design maps so that there's always some sort of cover nearby + give the players utility to deal with it, in the case of CS, it's smokes and flashes. The final step is that a good player should be able to take out the sniper as fast as the sniper can take someone else out. CS does this with 1 HS from an AK or 2 HS from M4.

Simple as.
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wow, this game looks really neat! is it some new indie shooter?
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>>736475195
overdone saturated colours, visual cancer
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>>736475029
>Laser-like accuracy at extreme range while being fired from the hip and dancing around
>Kill you in 1 or 2 hits
>Also thermal sights too because fuck you you're going back to the main menu lol
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>>736475308
colors are gay?
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>>736475279
CS solved it for the top 5% of the players.
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>>736475428
disingenuous tranny go play concord 3 while the servers are still up
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>>736475472
how am I disingenuous?
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>>736475468
Any shitter can throw a smoke to block the line of sight of a guy with an AWP.
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>>736475280
it's a hardcore extraction shooter
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>>736475029
No, the interaction will always feel one sided.
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>>736475530
>repositions
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>>736475568
It would be better if they made it so that hitting somebody at range actually took some skill rather than it just being "Do dance on rooftop, hold gun between legs, place crosshair on target, click, kill guy on the other side of the map".
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>>736475029
People who play console shooters don't have object permanence and can't comprehend that they might be seen without seeing for themselves.
They do stupid things like moving in straight lines and standing still without imagining what they look like through a scope right now.
>I can't see any snipers so there aren't any
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>>736475029
>Can they be balanced?
Yes, make them the only weapon.

>huge maps
>bullet speed and drop
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>>736475029
The counterplay to snipers in most games is to not meet them, and thats fucking boring
In shit like csgo you still have options to block their vision or flush them out of position but thats a rarity
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>>736475029
snipers are annoying but they're only really an issue on dire marsh because the map is designed like fucking shit
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>>736475029
that's less snipers being bullshit and more thermals being overpowered in anything but perfect visibility.
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Snipers do everything other guns can do, but better essentially, and your only counterplays is to snipe back, hope they whiff the shot(lol no), or use map geometry/equipment/abilities to get closer
One shot kill aspect of snipers makes the biggest threat, especially in multiplayer games with limited lives
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They should simulate all the projectiles- in other words, give them travel time and drop.
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I haven't played shooters since cod4/bc2 days. Are traps like claymores or tripmines a thing in these extraction or royale style of games?
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>>736478018
>In shit like csgo
People like bringing up cs, but its a tactical shooter. You win with strategy, the awp being a lethal and hard to deal with cunt is overcome with strategy.
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>>736478562
Claymores yes
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>>736478562
Yes one of the characters has a claymore mine.
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The hell, did they put the farsight from perfect dark in a actual competitive shooter?
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>>736479003
>farsight from perfect dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqvCqk5WDrQ&t=32s
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>>736478791
yes thats what I said, are you dumb?
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>>736475029
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>>736479420
Unironically MG area denial is much more palatable than sniper camps.
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Marathon is better than Crimson Desert.
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Marathon can go the distance!
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Marathon
more like
Marathoff
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>>736475029
remember. If you die to snipers in Marathon its a skill issue.
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>>736481251
This
Just quit corner peeking like a retard because that makes you just a static target, this shit ain't Tarkov
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>>736475029
Sniper rifles are the guns of guns.
Regular firearms are a cowardly weapon already because you just hide and shoot instead of engaging in manly, sweaty melee combat and sniper rifles take that last bit of direct engagement away entirely. The world was a better place when men had to actually approach their opponents and risk something.
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>>736481370
>Invisible person who one-shots you from across the map
Don't think I'll be playing
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>>736481370
>invisible snipers
lol that's the reason I quit Planetside 2, thanks for letting me know, not even trying this
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>>736481370
i was being ironic. the map design doesn't have a good enough layout to include thermal sights on snipers.
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>>736475029
Bungie has never been able to properly balance snipers since d1 because they thought they should be DPS weapons instead of burst for damage
They have ni idea how to balance a game
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>>736475279
Just charge them with the pp bizon or p90 when they aim a teammate
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>>736482434
Thermal scopes are fine
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Those scopes are cool
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Bungie is so fucking fucked now. I would pay $40 to see a documentary of working at Bungie office tomorrow. How grim it must be.
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>>736475029
>Can they be balanced?
Yes. Make other guns realistically deadly as well, and not pea shooters.
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>>736475029
>bolt-action rifle. 1 round in chamber requiring 2.5s reload time between shots
>charge time or you get 1/3 damage
enjoy your balance bro
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>>736475029
No, being oneshot from across the map from some chucklefuck you didn't even see can never ever be balanced or made fun for both parties.
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>>736475029
Turns FPS games into Point n Click.



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