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Why is Dragons Dogma 2 so butt ugly compared to Dragons Dogma 1 (and Dark Arisen).

Look how beautiful DD1 is!
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What is this? When I came out of Cassardis I saw the Bluemoon Tower at the horizon. In DD2? Some slop mountains.
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>>736483023
Both games unfortunately suck though
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DD1 is so comfy.
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And DD1 has so many cute girls.
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DD2 is even more unfinished than DD1 was, unfortunately
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Shazamsissies are really just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks again huh
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Did you know that you have beautiful visuals and greatful gameplay in Crimson Desert?!
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>>736483180
Bleating she-goat.
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>>736483596
I would pount her too... if you know what I mean.
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>>736483023
DD1 uses normal maps, fairly high res textures, and prepass lighting with a mix of dynamic and set lights with real time shadows. That's perfection for games. DD2 uses PBR and GI. That's it. That's the whole reason.
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Cassadis... home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCZDx0dlDws
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>>736483023
couldnt get into dd1, played 10-15 hours and it was boring.
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What is up with the intense DD2 ad campaign here over the past 2 weeks. Was there a DLC announcement or something to justify the increased shill spend?
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>>736483592
Tigers?
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I found DD2 to be quite beautiful in its own right with its rugged look. You just have to be careful never to look up at the sky because for some reason they gave the game PS2 tier clouds.
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>DDDA is also on GOG
It's playable fine in offline? What about Pawns?
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>>736484105
Servers are still online, but no crossplay with steam version.
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>>736483914
this is so cool

i love how every time you come back to cassardis after a major story event, the NPCs there almost all have unique dialog to reflect the changing times and your changing standing in the world. there's no reason to go back there but the game rewards it anyway. truly creates a sense of home and good-natured simple folk who care about you

DD1 is so well written the dialog and item descriptions and quest descriptions are top notch
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>>736483023
First one has loli pawns. Second one doesn't. Conclusion: DD2 blows
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>>736483952
you missed out, cos.
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>>736484304
This, but replace loli pawns with mystic knight.
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>>736483023
1 has good art style bad graphics
2 has good graphics bad art style
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>>736484432
I wouldn't call 1's graphics bad.
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Trannies love dragon's dogshitma
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DLC NEVER EVER HAHAHAHAHAHA
MEANWHILE US MH AND RE GODS GET FREE TITLE UPDATES AND A MASSSSSIVE EXPANSION IN FALL 2026
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>>736484432
Yes but 2 has good combat
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>>736484536
It's 20 years old gramps, it's time to enable ray tracing.
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>>736484432
>2 has good graphics
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>>736484715
Nah, I like my FPS above single digits so I'll keep gaytracing off, thanks.
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>>736484709
If only.
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>>736484432
fucking stupid transgender moron. re-read what you wrote and tell me it still makes sense. GRAPHICS ARE A PART OF 'ART STYLE'
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Say what you will but i also find dd2 beautiful in some area
Unlike wilds, dd2 world is easy to read and its physics system add so much soul in game
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Wasted potential: the franchise.
Imagina what couldve been if Capcom gave this enough money and time.

What a waste of a good combat system.
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>>736484810
Its true
Stop being such a cunt all the time
https://youtu.be/ubWBZqpkaaA?si=YJL9bvJbj00UDzcV
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>>736484865
Ryozo hate dragon's dogma
Have you ever wonder why they never did a dd collab with monster hunter yet did one for almost all of their "big" game?
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I would play DD1 if there was an mod for leveling pawns. I don't want to switch them via some bullshit shadow realm. I want to create the entire party and go on the adventure.
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>>736484817
>pedantic retard
Math makes graphics, artists make styles.
DD2 is nothing but diarrhea flavored tonemapping and LUTs sprinkled with blur and noise. If they had an artist working on that game's visuals he should be hung.
Artists did everything in DD1s era, that's why the sky looks better than the sequel for example. You could even make an argument that the flora is better since 2's is covered in 20 layers of blur.

>>736484885
>Its true
I wish.

>>736484972
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/640
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DD2 get way to hate
It has a billion flaws yet still remain the best game capcom made in decades
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>Dragon's Dogma 2 flopped so hard, it got less post release support than Exoprimal and Kunitsu Gami
Embarrassing for a major franchise according to Capcom.
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>>736484885
>3 skills
>no strider
>Resident Evil remakes movement
>good combat
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>>736485049
>>>736484972 (You)
>https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/640

Unfortunately that's old shit and too much hassle to be worth it. You can customize 3rd and 4th pawn, but you have to level up them manually via mod. So every level-up in game means turning it off, setting up some values in 3rd party program and restarting the game.

It's more likely I will just play solo playthrough without any pawns in the future than to go through so much head pain
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>>736485187
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/96
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>>736485173
>Re movement
You never played dd2 frognigger
I accept your concession
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>>736485173
This. The game feels bad to play even if you ignore how badly "designed" the enemies are.
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>>736485280
I did, felt like i was playing RE4R lmaoooooo
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>>736485350
Nice to know you have braindamage lolllll
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>>736485392
Thats the average dd2 shill though
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>>736484972
Everyone wants dragon's dogma to drop its stupid bullshit where it tries to be special and just be a normal RPG leaving basically only the combat and character creator intact.

Pawns, Brine, Aught, it can all fuck off, stop trying to be unique, you suck at it, just give me a normal party of actual characters with personalities, plotlines, and character arcs. Stop with the gay fascination with plot twist endings, they suck, and you suck at them.
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Dragon's troonman sucks
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>>736483596
no bulli :c
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>>736485445
Pawns are based, fuck elden cockring
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>>736485518
What color is your game of the year :)
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>>736485445
>Pawns, Brine, Aught, it can all fuck off, stop trying to be unique, you suck at it,
what the fuck are you on, these are what makes DD so unique even compared to other RPGs
Having the evil dragon that steals your heart turn out not infact not be evil at all and just wants you to become strong enough to put him out of his misery and go fight god so you with your superior willpower and strenght can create a better world for everyone is such a cool fucking twist
And let's not talk about how the world of DD consists of many different neverending ring worlds, and only pawns can pass through these rings through the dimension between worlds called the rift
and this shit is just the base game
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>>736484367
yeah idk about that, the combat felt basic and every fight was just the same thing
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>>736485715
He's saying all that is gay and I agree with him. Simple is fine.
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>>736483023
>Dragons Dogma 2
>butt ugly

No.
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>>736485715
>is such a cool fucking twist
Nah it sucks, you have to suffer through 40h of boring bullshit only for the ending to recontextualize it into something vaguely interesting, but those 40h of boredom were real. A well told story would be interesting from start to finish, not bore you for the first 4/5ths of it only to get interesting at the very end. The twist was not good enough to justify how shitty the storytelling was.
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>story story story
Suck a cock nigger
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>>736486147
Look at that anti soul gas overload, disgusting.
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>Got a design works for 1
>But not 2

Sign that DD2 has less soul.
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>>736486279
RPG have always lived or died on their story.
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>>736486335
Only if you ever played bitcher and bioware shit
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How is the World Difficulty DDDA mod these days? Is it finished? is it good?
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>>736483023
>Dragons Dogma 2 so butt ugly

RE Engine
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>>736487161
Its just health bloat and don't expect any good mods either since making mods for mt framework is very annoying
Modding scene for 2 is great though
There's a spanish guy making so many great mod that actually improve vanilla experience without breaking the core gameplay
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>>736487361
I trust Nickesponja more than Itsuno at this point. They guy cooked and turned DD2 from a 6/10 into an 8/10.
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Think a DLC could save DD2?
Feels like the second half of the game was really damn rushed and unutilized, like you get to the second grand city with the furries and you get like 2 quests and then you never need to come back, and places like the deep forest with elves is completely miss able even then doesn't mean much
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the quest board notices are so low effort as quests, they're all like "kill 10 things" or whatever. i think we all tend to blast through accepting them bc there's no reason not to take them, but i encourage you to actually view the details, because the quest descriptions are great, they're really immersive and some are cool or even funny

for example early on there's a "kill 10 deer" quest lmao, but then you look at the details and see that it was actually posted by the abbey:

"We sisters of the abbey are beset by deer. The gently creatures would ne'er attack a human, but our crops receive no such deference. If they eat any more, we shall surely starve. Pray, encourage them to find a new pasture."

and then for completing, you get some gold and exp and FIFTEEN TUFTS OF HAIR lmaoooo the nuns give you locks of their hair! it's all they have to offer ;-; I mean really think about that, what are u supposed to do with those. i imagine them blushing as they snip off locks of hair for the brave hero who scared off those nasty deer

DD1 just oozes charm from every orifice
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>>736487802
It'll never get a DLC so there is no sense is wondering if its possible to fix it with a DLC.
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>>736487802
I actually liked battahl and unmoored world
This is no mhwilds where the core gameplay is dogshit
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DD2 had the best character creator, nothing else came close.
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>>736487802
You cant save this game, unless they're willing to pretty much remake it from scratch.

But they could focus on the good things the base game got right, like combat, and give us more of that. Fuck the story, the shallow characters, the obscure timed quests, etc. Give us more classes, more skills, more monster variety, more dungeons to explore, etc.
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Ban all dd thread
You nigger never getting any dlc and i hope capcom delist this piece of shit franchise from steam
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>>736488053
A simple difficulty mod and more enemy encounter mod already saved the game for me
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>>736488053
the DD2 devs must be blushing after seeing those dogshit controls on gook desert. "we ran out if buttons so you can only have 4 skills"
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>>736488137
I see another Crimson Cuck has showed up in here , don't you have a few threads to spam and shill?
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What do you think happened?
Did he quit because they screwed DDs development again or did he get fired because DD2 was a flop?
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>>736485753
it's not like other games, it can take a bit before you really get it. as a DS1 tryhard i didn't get it at first either. then it clicked and became the most addictive rpg combat i've ever played. so fun and dynamic and immersive and covertly anime
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>>736488228
Crimson kino already made billions and loved by majority gamers except journos
Really shows that people actually support good game unlike your wokeslop temu eldenring which flopped hard and itshitno left the company lol
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>>736488414
>3-4 mil sold
>Billions
I though gooks were supposed to be good with numbers
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>>736488234
There's no way they could fire him unless he tried to sue capcom or some shit
Maybe capcom told him to move the team to mhwilds mid way
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Threads like these make me long for the days when /v/ wasn't full of disingenuous faggots that shit on games they haven't even played.
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>>736488234
>addressed none of the complaints from the first game
>changed stuff that already worked and made it worse

Itsuno is going senile.
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>>736485715
It would be better if it was just a standard ass fantasy world with some gnostic world building in the background. Pawns as a concept feels utterly gamey and it shouldn't have tried to explain their existence through in-game lore. Just hire your pawns at the local inn. They're mercenaries made out if flesh and blood
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>>736488548
We would anyone play such dogshit game?
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>>736488587
Esl fail
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>>736488569
He made the combat very dynamic
Every encounter in dd2 feel so different because of the physics and you can do your full combo while mounting
Openworld is also improved with the addition of ox cart and camping system
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>>736488585
You don't want dragon's dogma
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>>736488234
they screwed him again, this time due to nepotism and shareholder culture. capcom needed to release another big title that year to hit their numbers, they had 2 in the oven that weren't ready yet, DD2 and some other game starts with a P i think. one of those games was gonna have to be a sacrificial lamb. DD2 should have been safe due to itsuno's seniority and long productive tenure at capcom, but they spared the other project because the CEO's son was on it. imagine that, you almost get to make your passion project, get cucked, pay your dues for another 10 years making your company shitloads of cash and saving a franchise, then finally you get greenlit to make your passion project with full resources, only to get cucked again due to the CEO's faggot son coming in with his own dumbass game idea.

that's why he immediately left and joined another smaller studio, took a couple senior DD devs with him and some other DD staff and started a new team with them.
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What's the point of shilling a dead game?
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>>736488776
Correct, I want a good game.
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>>736488973
Try witcher 3
You will love it
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>>736488812
Holy cope
Itsuno haven't made a single good game since dmc3
He's like itagaki
Can't wait for his devil's turd
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>>736488776
I do have a hard time with understanding the Japanese mind, but I'll have to admit that they make entertainment games. I also think trying to explain the invasions in Dark Souls in-unuverse is unnecessary. I also don't get why every anime I've seen needs immersion breaking characters lik ,Puck in Berserk for example. To me, their products would improve if they simply kept the immersion breaking stuff at a minimum. I'm not saying the west is better when it comes to this, either, considering how many companies follow the DEI checkboxes to the letter
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>>736488234
Batahl and Volcanic Island were obviously rushed. Vermund is a complete region with a ton of content, but Batahl and Island are very empty by comparison and the story missions are nearly non-existent. Hard to imagine that such polarity is by design.
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>>736486335
I played Eyes of the Beholder for the story and I play Visual Novels for the gameplay.
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>>736486147
Holy Unreal Engine
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>>736489146
i might be coping, but DD1 is so good it gives me hope. you don't make something that good by accident, he knew what he was doing. we'll find out for sure once he releases his first game with his new team at lightspeed studios. if that's good, it'll prove capcom was holding him back. though at this point, he might be too old and dried up to have any creative spark left.
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>>736490141
but dd1 was dogshit at release, only DA made it good, and it's not even Itsuno's work
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>>736490141
Everyone hated dd1 at launch
Only bbi saved it which was directed by someone else
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>>736486147
Kino...
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>>736490454
>>736490627
bots? this take is so lame, parroted everywhere by bots and midwits

it had performance issues at launch, people were comparing it with skyrim and dark souls when in reality it's something very different. that plus it bing quirky meant that people just didn't "get it" for a while. but it had a cult following that shilled it so hard it eventually became popular. and that following predates BBI. BBI is good but it's not the main draw for most people. the feel of an adventure, character customization, pawn system, grounded classic fantasy aesthetic, cool world building and trippy cosmic plot elements are why people liked it, and that all predates BBI. BBI is a cherry on top

DD1 was excellent and made bold risky innovations that paid off. it's a fun original game that's much greater than the sum if its parts.
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>>736491949
Holy fuck dd2 is such a pile a crap lol
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>>736483023
>Why is Dragons Dogma 2 so butt ugly compared to Dragons Dogma 1

They use warm sunny colors + vibrancy.

Part 2 has this depressing filter (like modern movies) and people have to use Reshade or mods to make it vibrant again.

DD2 is a fail in multiple ways.
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DRAGON'S DOGMA WAS NEVER GOOD
CAN YOU PLEASE STOP MAKING THESE DEADASS THREAD
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>>736483969
the theory is people are warming up to it now that there is hopium in the air, so start talking positively and being general cucks.

Before it was slam-pigged like a boundgangbang.
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Why does the fact lots of people like Dragon's Dogma cause people to seethe so much?
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>>736492569
Because its a horrible horrible game shilled by discordtroon as some hidden gem cult classic but in reality is just a tech demo
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>>736483023
niggers
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>>736483914
>one guy yapping from dusk until dawn with a merchant
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>>736491949
Batman, there's no laws against the monsters batman
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>>736492745
there's a mod for that
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Most fun class for both dd1 and 2?
I only played strider in 1 and thief then spearhand in 2
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>>736493030
That's fighting symptoms. The fact that they're such a big part of the game at all betrays an underlying brainrot that does not proritize the quality of the game.
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>>736492569
Schizophrenia. The seething comes from 1-3 dedicated shitposters. Quite sad really.
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>>736492569
It's just the Crimson Cuck shills,just ignore them like their parents did.
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>>736493089
Assassin or MK in 1, the hybrid vocations were pretty crazy.
In 2, I mostly liked the melee classes still. Fighter, warrior, thief. I wanted to like archer but something just wasn't clicking for me.
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>>736492518
The MTX outrage from normies destroyed the game
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>>736492569
>>736492569
bitter empty people just wanna destroy anything that's beautiful and good. DD1 is kino and pure soul and light that shrinks the darkness, therefore those blinded by darkness lash out at it.
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>>736483969
DLC hints in 2nd anniversary tweet
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>>736493089
bro i love strider but how did you go the whole game without even trying the other vocations?? lmaoooo that's awesome i love you <3
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>>736487876
Speaking of the abby, that place is really fucking creepy
Why would the Undead rise in what should be holy grounds? Why are there Cursed Carvings about, and why are they favored by the Nuns? Why is there such a large concentration of Ogres in the area? Is it because the women attracted them, or is it something else, something more sinister that called them to such a dead area?
Why is there a wakestone shard in the cemetery right next to the church?
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>>736493774
quality post, i always wondered about the abbey it's such a unique aura in that part of the map. kind of remote and you never really have to go there. maybe the prevalence of undead just has to do with the fact that there's a cemetery. it would explain why the abbey is so remote. you wouldn't want to bury your dead just on the edge of town, when they can rise up to haunt you.

ogres are definitely drawn by the stench of nunussy. i'm more confused as to how they survive out there. just hiding in the church? cause an ogre scales that wall easy. undead everywhere. you could say they know some magic like quina learns but none of them are armed. they can't even handle their deer problem. i love the abbey.

there's no gate or anything, i wonder if anything happens when you lure the undead within the walls. will the nuns just slap the bejeezus out of it?
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>>736490454
>>736490627
Dark Arisen does not add or change anywhere near enough to/about the game for someone who hated the base game to not also hate Dark Arisen. The director for Dark Arisen is also credited as DD2's lead game designer and so likely hand a hand in any number of common criticisms which the internet ascribes solely to Itsuno.
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>>736493774
the cursed carvings thing is really bizarre. i know was originally planned with the church. like at the highest levels they know the truth, but intentionally hide it. they were probably going to be unveiled as like a secret occult society or something, probably the nuns get corrupted by insane sex rituals involving ogre slime
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>>736494661
more was originally planned*
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>>736494649
Had a hand, rather.
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>>736494408
>i wonder if anything happens when you lure the undead within the walls
at night, undead actually spawn inside the walls in the cemetery
but the nuns are all inside the church so they're safe
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>>736495031
holy shit that's terrifying... imagine hearing them scraping around outside knowing you're utterly defenseless if they get in

i'm gonna romance the hottest nun on my next playthrough and save her from that hell ;-;
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>>736483023
DD1, DD2 and DDO are all kino.
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Loaded up the character creator and forgot how limited the voice overs for pawns is in DD2. The decision to link inclination to voice is bizarre...could they really not afford to hire 4 more actors to give each 'personality' some different sounding options? You're forced to use cheap sounding deeper/higher pitches for old/young pawns and most rift pawns sound the same. Its like the game has literally 2 VO's per gender option.

If there is DLC, I almost wish they'd budget just hiring some amateur performers; how costly could it be to get them in a booth for 300-ish lines? I wouldn't even care if they're not great - the 'black' sounding actress is wooden already.
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>>736495989
it's disgusting how bad the english VA is in DD2. when in DD1 it was quite good. even with the goofy fake french accents, the acting itself was fine, and often great

i wonder how hard it would be to mod in more pawn voices. there's so much good acting talent out there for cheap, the hard part would be mining all the dialog and figuring out how to add slots.. if that's even possible. and it would mess up pawn voices from unmodded games.. fucking hell, there was no reason not to have like 30 voice options. acting talent is cheap. tying voices to personalities was a braindead choice. but ik it wasn't a choice, development got cut short again...
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>>736495989
>VOICE ACTORS
>PAY 'EM
Yes, they balloon game dev costs like crazy and I can't wait for AI to eliminate the need for them.
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Where do I get the rest of this set?
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>>736490454
>>736490627
I hope this is a samefag and that there aren't two people stupid enough to post this.
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>>736496747
Kill Ur dragon in grace
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>>736483969
>anons gaslit themselves into thinking a DLC was about to be announced again
>nothing happened again
>some people decided to follow the hype and replay the game anyway because why not
>threads ensue
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>>736483023
i wish mystic spearhand was cooler
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>>736483969
Discord folks saw people being hyped for a possible dlc and came out of the woodworks for more hate campaign
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>>736496972
IT WILL HAPPEN THIS TIME
JUST THE PLAN
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>>736496972
You won't be so smug when it's announced in the summer games fest
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>>736497109
Spearhand is cool but it's got big shoes to fill as the red/blue vocation.
But really both can exist
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DD1 had soul, i played it just last year for the first time and i felt the dread one would have in the universe of goblin slayer if i had to give an example.
DD2while a bit more dinamic and cinematic, felt more like a marvel movie.
DD1 the danger was real, even a 1 lvl difference was certain death, in DD2 while pawns are smarter, they make it feel like you're already a god, unlike DD1.
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>>736483023
>HMMMMMMMUOOOOOOOOOOhhhh ooooooooooh ohhh ohhh ohhh
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>>736497419
>*stops after 20 seconds*
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>>736497229
>>736497278
We will hear Into Free again, this time for sure.
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>>736483023
why does /v/ have daily threads for two of the worst open world RPGs on the market?
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>>736483023
Even if there is a dlc they can't unfuck the game, just relaunch DDO and translate it, that's the only way to fix the garbage fire dd2 is.
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>>736498239
Trannies are seething hard that crimson desert raped their so called hidden gemslop
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>>736499393
worked for DD1
just increase the monster count and variety
increase the difficulty by a metric ton
make it worth grinding to lvl 999
give us kino dungeon exploration
give us an endgame loop to keep autists playing forever
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This was fun.
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>>736499702
>less classes
>even the ones available have been nerfed to hell except for one (warrior)
>one is straight up useless
>FOUR FUCKING SKILLS
>story somehow managed to be worse than the fist game
I would've been happy with dragon's dogma 1.5, instead I got dragon's dogma 0.8 game is fucked man, just accept and move on
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>>736499393
Fuck of mmofag
DD 2 is already 10x morw fun with a simple difficulty and more enemy spawn mod
It just need more enemies, few more vocation, a hard mode, more dungeon and more overall content
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>>736499991
Imagine if pawns could use trickster
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>>736499702
DA didn't add any new enemy in base world retard
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>>736500093
So? The DLC will most likely be about a new landmass and if we go by the leak it will be as big as the main game
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Doing my first modded playthrough fixed DD2 for me completely
I am replaying right now with :
- Bestiary 2.0
- Dullahan
- Durnehviir
- Enemy resistance overhault
- Equipment stats overhaul
- Gear Progression overhaul
- Simple difficulty tweaks
- Weaponlord

And besides missing something like BBI it now turned into a better game for me than DD:DA, the vocations feel great, exploring feels great because of the loot can drop from bosses, you have a great open world, NG+ feels good with some tweaks and more drops from the progression overhaul.

It feels like what DD2 should be from the start.

I know console version will most likely never feel perfect but everyone on PC should give a modded playthrough a go
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>>736500648
THERE'S NO DLC COMING
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>>736483480
>I hate that I can't discuss DD1 without the troon discord boogeyman shadow looming off screen.
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>>736501028
Same
Played and finish whole game in just 4days
The last game i enjoyed this much was nioh2
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>>736484865
Please understand. We need to fund more RE, MH and SF. We are a small indie studio
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>>736484865
This and Lost Planet got fucking screwed.
Endless RE SF and MH til we're all dead
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>>736501420
MH is my favourite series and even i think that they should give that franchise a rest for a while and focus on their other ip
Release REslop yearly for free npcmoney
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Will the strait of hormuz open before we get DD2 dlc?
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>>736501112
NIGGER
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>>736501028
Give me mystic knight and ill consider giving it another shot.
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>>736505295
>Give me mystic knight
DDON
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>>736495486
based and sheenpilled
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>>736501112
>THERE'S NO DLC COMING

first post nails it
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>>736499991
Modded DD2 > DD:DA > DD1 >DD2
YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT REALITY
THIS IS A FACT
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>>736505926
Dlc is already here its called beastiary 2.0
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>>736483180
>Arisens cock
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>>736500648
You have to come to reality at some point, man.
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>>736486292
Im still mad about this.
Dark Arisen got a Design Works too, albeit a Japan exclusive edition. Online got several artbooks. Meanwhile 2 is just about the only capcom game that doesnt even get a collectors edition, no books at all, the barest minimum of merch (some magnets and acryllic stands) and one (1) figma figure of the arisen two years after release. It does not include the dragons dogma sword btw. What the fuck are they doing man.
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>>736507683
Because they'll realise it once the DLC is out then the game is "complete"
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>>736499358
How did the Hydra write me this letter?
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>>736507683
Capcom is just brokies in general it's just some richfag smoking pot and making bad choices
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You're not a real fan if you didn't play on PS3
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BBI > open world shit
DD2 is kusoge
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>>736508236
>only fun part of the game
>every room is the same few assets reused
t-thanks...
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>>736507683
dd2 was sacrificed for the financial quarter after exoflopmal. Doesn't help the creator decided to ignore most of the feedback from the fist game and remade it in a worse way with fancier graphics (that ran like shit).
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>>736508227
Powerpointshow station 3 my beloved.. Ricochet bolt and magick cannon spam may have brought you to your knees but I still had fun at 3fps.
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>>736490141
Base game DD1 is ass. Dark Arisen is genuinely the only good thing about it.
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>>736510396
regarded take
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>>736508227
yep those were the days, PC release rocked my world however
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>>736511041
i dont even remember how i these those screenshots
ps3 didnt have a capture button, so it was the in-game dd1 screenshot function right? or was it sometehing else?
still took hundreds of them
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If we never get more dragons dogma content from Capcom I'm going to lose my fucking mind. Crimson Desert is holding me over before I snap and need to rebuild my pc to play dd2 with mods. Don't make me play the damn mmo... I will if I must
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>>736508227
PS3 version still has the best lighting.
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>>736486147
Anon is a vampire, quick get the garlic.
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>>736508480
BBI was such fun dungeon crawling.
Its exactly how I imagine 3D nethack to feel.
I don't even know what about it is so unique to BBI. Didn't one of the dark souls have some kind of dungeon mechanic?
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Clearly my 2012 self was impressed by the kino ending sequence.
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>>736513965
Yeah Bloodborne has chalice dungeons, procedurally generated dungeons in a few different flavors where you can go wild with gemfarming rng to put in your weapons. With a tiny chance to get an extra rare type (out of shape). And weapons with different upgrade slots too. And a surprising amount of enemies and even bosses that are exclusive to these dungeons. The deeper down you go the harder the enemies become but the higher the chance at good loot. They also feature treasure rooms, lots of traps and cool scenery like giant oil fields and canyons. Most people seem to hate them but I love them, mustv spend hundreds of hours down there.. Which I also did for BBI and the Everfall...
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>>736499949
Hired her again?
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>>736514402
Did your 2012 self perpetuate the cruel ring or attempt to break it?
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>>736514490
Yeah that's the one. I played it, and I thought it was alright. Not great. Not terrible. But kind of phoned in. Kind of mundane.

At no point did it capture the creeping dread, the wonder and awe, the fright, or the melancholy of just sitting around with Barroch listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSXYCyGuOHY&list=PLN-MF4AXlw26R_1eY5R_ddqYPTHx78ijK&index=12

Maybe I answered my own question. BBI's soundtrack was insanely, ridiculously good. Maybe that's what carried it.
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>>736484432
>2 has good graphics
>RE Engine
>good graphics
Are you merely larking?
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>>736513246
proof?
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>>736491949
Holy volumetric slop.
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>>736515310
Is there really no setting to turn that off?
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>>736515686
You can disable it in almost every other RE game through the INI, but not in Dragon's Dogma 2 because FUCK YOU!

The worst part is that some light sources don't trigger massive volumetric AIDS and you get a glimps of how good it could actually look at night.
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>>736508227
Have some cringe-kino I made many years ago.
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>>736508236
You don't even like Dragon's Dogma.
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game is literally 10 quid on key websites is it worth it?
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>Vanilla body looks like pure dogshit
>Can be fixed in seconds with extended sliders
Do you think it was intentional? As in, do you think the ESG peddlers that infiltrated Capcom made it so that you coulnd't give female characters hips? I can't be some kind of chatacters creator limitation since it's so easy to fix when you have full control over sliders and there's no way that every artist in the team looked and the weird, dysgenic proportions of the vanilla body and thought "Yeah, that's what women look like".
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>>736516554
Only if you have a decent CPU and you're willing to put in half an our downloading and installing the required mods. Modded it's a great, vanilla is aweful.
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>>736516165
got a chuckle out of me
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>>736514402
Hey hey I took a screenshot of that place too
Well I bet everyone did anyway
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>>736483023
Once Capcom released the RE engine they decided that all of their games needed to be ugly a washed out. DMC5, MHWilds, every RE since the remake of 2, etc.
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>>736516654
>Remove a bunch of options because they don't want people making kids.
>But also remove ability to make believable hips so everyone looks prepubescent but tall
????
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>>736516654
My first guess would be that it's related to equipment scaling or something similar. The game allows you to make pretty thirsty designs and bang hookers, so i doubt puritanian censorship played a huge role.
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>>736516554
>eurocucks can buy DD2 for 10 quid
>amerilards have to pay $35 minimum because we don't have Vladimir stealing region-locked keys for us
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
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>>736517438
Seems it is you who is the cuck then
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>>736517409
>The game allows you to make pretty thirsty designs and bang hookers, so i doubt puritanian censorship played
ESG games are fine with degeneracy, just not conventionally attractive women.
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I regret ever buying DD2 and I should've spent that money on gacha games honestly. That's how fucked up the game is
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>>736517948
Maybe you're just a pleb. Ever think of that?
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>>736486147
>foggy
>piss filter
>otherwise just a normal dark scene
WOW...... HOLY!
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>>736517948
I agree. It was complete shit. Funny how the whole marketing was "the first was rushed, this time we'll make it right" and then they rushed it and made it shit.
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>>736514685
She cute
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>>736515310
I don't know what you're trying to say with this image but yes it has good graphics but the art sucks.
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>>736518634
Anon, you might be retarded if you think those are good graphics.
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>>736488234
>did he get fired because DD2 was a flop?
Seriously doubt he got fired since DD2 was not a "flop". It could've performed much better on the long run but its financial shortcomings only started to show up after a few weeks (it performed pretty well at first) so it sounds unlikely that the suits were furious over its performance so quickly, specially after DMC5 ended up selling so well. He quit about 4 months after the release of the game and usually senior directors don't just leave overnight and take a few months to do so since they're almost always at least supervising one minor project.
tl;dr At most I can see him getting a lower budget for his next project, but getting fired sounds very unlikely.

It seems to me that he run into issues while developing the game. DD2's biggest issues all seem to be tied to how the RE engine craps its pants with open world games so it is very likely this crippled what he had in mind and he was unable to make a product that satisfied him in time.
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>>736517948
You and me both
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>>736520713
>It seems to me that he run into issues while developing the game. DD2's biggest issues all seem to be tied to how the RE engine craps its pants with open world games so it is very likely this crippled what he had in mind and he was unable to make a product that satisfied him in time.
Forgot to add, he was probably frustrated after having to endure the RE engine's shortcomings and ended up quitting due to that. EA has forced dev teams to use Frostbite even when it was a terrible choice for the project so I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom did the same thing,.
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Did we like DD2's ending?
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>>736520941
I honestly remember nothing about this games story.
My mind kinda mixed both Dragons Dogma together
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Someone gifted my pawn a fucking Beetle. I'm very flattered, but how the goddamn fuck did they afford to hire my pawn that was 120 levels above them, and did they brick themselves by giving away a Beetle? Going by the description, it was the genuine article and not a forgery.
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>>736486147
The terrain is fantastic, I can understand how the muted colors might enrage third worlders but the atmosphere is great because of it.
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>>736520204
You apparently don't know what graphics are.
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>>736522468
It's kind of insane how ugly the game is, not even modding can make it looks good.
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>>736522578
Yeah I agree, but I'm glad DD2 looks good.
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>>736483023
I mean say what you will about dd2 but ut may be capcom’s most visually appealing game with the hud off
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>>736522624
it doesn't
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>>736522678
Surely no one here plays with the HUD on.
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>>736483023
Dd1 has soul. Dd2 was a unfinished quick cash grab
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>>736493089
>dd1
fighter
>dd2
fighter
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>>736483023
It's wild how much visual design DD2 recycles from DD1 but somehow manages to make more drab and lifeless than a PS3 game
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It's a real shame what happened with DD2. So much potential just thrown to the wind a second time.
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>What's going on on this thr-
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>>736485445
You're retarded
Pawns are one of the most fun systems Capcom ever came up with and it's a fucking travesty that they're squandered in a terminally half-baked franchise. The fun part of the game is playing anime doll dress up and then making your pawn go out and down a cyclops with a greatsword, everything else is secondary
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>>736523087
Should have been carrying a rabbit.
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>>736523160
Pshh, rabbit throw big deal, i wanna see how good you are at climbing.
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>>736523160
game's too fucking easy lmao
hope we get a proper hard mode when the dlc drops
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>>736523271
Mods have proven that you can't fix the game like that. The enemy AI is fundamentally broken.
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>>736523321
Really? Just pump up the numbers, male them have way more poise and make them more aggresive. The devs could make what the modders can't, since they can just do whatever.
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Why are we getting so many DD2 threads lately? Is it a wave of third worlders using the denuvo bypass or something?
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>>736523516
They still attack air and miss you constantly.
>The devs could make what the modders can't, since they can just do whatever.
Yeah like push out an unfinished game and let it rot.
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>>736523562
something to do with crimson desert
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>>736523562
Capcom teased actual real upcoming content in their recent 2 year anniversary image. They've been doing this for a while with the RE series, teasing upcoming projects through sneakily added easter eggs in promo shots, so it's not something to be ignored. We don't know what, or when, but it's happening.

It's also an alright game, people who enjoyed it also enjoy talking about it.
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Mixing Bestiary and the randomizer made me fight a Hallowed Chimera and Bazel Minotaur at the same time. Absolute nightmare of a fight.
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>>736523014
hate red world
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>>736483023
MT Framework was a thing of beauty. We never should have moved on.
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>>736525021
hideous
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Hate golem
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Where does DDO reside in terms of quality against the other two games? Private servers have been shilled to me a lot lately
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>>736492798
living the good life
jews took that from us
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>>736488234
He was on his way out like 10 years ago but Capcom begged him to stay so probably neither of those things
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>>736520941
It sucked that the unmoored world didn't have a proper final boss but the true ending cutscene in it was actually pretty cool.
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>>736526983
Don't we all.
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>>736527896
I dont like the fact that (You) and your pawn dont get to enjoy the freedom you won though.
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>>736527627
I was never interested in it because the models and animations are worse than DD1. It probably feels worse to play.
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>>736527896
The final dragon supposed to be a boss fight and you unlock a lot of new areas especially those locked stone doors you find in openworld but capcom cucked itsuno at the very last moment
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>>736527627
I played for 10hr and didn't liked it
Enemies are very retarded and all fight in a very similar pattern
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>>736523562
Yes turdworlder love this dogshit for some reason
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>>736523621
Its because of its dynamic physics system which makes every encounter unique
A soulspleb like you won't appreciate this combat system
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>>736527627
It's worse than DD1 and DD2
>MMO grind with a glacial pace. it takes forever to do anything and you're expected to repeat quests up to a dozen times or more to grind levels/items
>the new classes like Alchemist are honestly overrated and not that fun to play
>lacks a lot of the cool physics of the other games because its an MMO and stuff like that would destroy the server
>the sense of adventure isn't as good because every area is gated behind tedious grind
The only positives it has over DD1/2 is that the combat is slightly better than DD1 and some of the dungeons are pretty cool the first time.
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They should make an offline version of DDO so I can actually try.
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>>736485187
DDON
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Is there another game even remotely like DD1? I played the game years ago and have yet to find a game that has even comes close to it.
>uh play Skyrim
Played it and it's fucking shit and absolutely nothing like DD. not to mention it's ugly as fucking sin.
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>>736529185
You aren't missing anything
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>>736516654
its the same image
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>>736529215
There's nothing. No other game has the Greco-Roman mythology vibe, pawns, awesome sense of adventure, or cool action combat that lets you climb monsters all combined into one package.
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>>736491949
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A DD thread post pawn!
>Game
>System (PC, Console etc.)
>Pawn Name
>Pawn LeveI
>Pawn Vocation
>Pawn ID
>Optional Info (Boons, Inclinations, etc)
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>>736488235
>it gets good after 20 hours
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>>736484865
DD2 got plenty of money and time. Literally got to use DDO funds just like Crimson Desert got to use BDO funds. Actually they got to use DD:DA funds too on top of 4chan meme energy.
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>>736528860
No it's because they're fucking retarded and have broken AI.
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Crimson Desert mogs this pos like very hard kek
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>>736530075
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>>736529795
People likes to blaim capcom but the itsuno was the real evil here who spend all the funds on whores then cry when capcom fired his ass
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>>736529927
You're retarded
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>736530075
mogs so hard everyone went back to dragons dogma 2 jej
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glad this threads still up
more dragon's kinaur screenshots
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>>736530589
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>>736530515
>spend all the funds on whores
proof??
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>>736530637
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Is M+KB required to play archer? Or do I just have to ignore free aim? Playing with sticks with this vocation is hell.
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>>736531268
not required but youll have trouble. controllers are just inferior to mk+b with free aim
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>>736530584
>everyone went back to dragons dogma 2 jej
lol
lmao
rofl even
sad
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>>736531485
>>736530203

>>736531268
mouse and keyboard is pretty good for any weapon, if you don't mind a little learning getting used to the key layout
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>>736530589
This is a cool shot.
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>>736531537
bruh just put the modifier keys to cast spells on your mouse side buttons
its peak comfy
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>>736499702
>what if Jagras and the Admiral from Monster Hunter World had a baby
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>>736530553
You're a coping retard.
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Well I can say I really prefer a lot of the changes they made to warrior in DD2. It feels a lot more fun to play this time around. Every skill feels better than I remember.
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>>736532235
its just too bad it had to come with mystic knight vanishing and every single other vocation losing an active skill slot

what fucking possessed them to LOWER skill slots from 4 to 3 i swear to god..
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>>736483180
GOAT
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>>736532306
Mystic Knight's absence hurts me because I loved that vocation, it was my favorite in DD1 by a wide margin.

I'll see if I'm still missing it when I get to Mystic Spearhand, I'll try to keep an openmind.
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>>736483023
The only good parts of DD1 were the last 20 minutes of the main game, and Bitterblack Isle
The rest was unfinished repetitive mediocrity
Never played DD2 because I heard it was even worse
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>>736532395
I liked spearhand more than mystic knight actually, it's one of the best parts about 2. It plays differently though, don't go in expecting it to function like MK.
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>>736532235
Yeah, warrior felt amazing to play in dd2 desu. Same with thief. But mage/sorc losing 2 skill slots and most of the sorceries was a travesty.
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Name my band.
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>>736532651
To be fair with Mage, they essentially only lost one skill slot because Anodyne's a core skill now.
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>>736532796
Weezer
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>>736532579
i liked spearhand until i realized that fighter does everything spearhand does and twice as good
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>>736532815
You still lost 2 skills if you don't want to have that skill equipped, retard
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>>736532815
>>736533001
mage is still strictly a pawn-only vocation. no one sane actually plays it
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>>736533070
I played mage in 1.
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DD2 is literally "generic isekai" as a game. The pawn's guild is now the adventurer's guild. The starting town is just circular town with a lord's manner. The dragon is just a dragon. There's a beastman kingdom and an elf village in a forest. There's even a fucking hotspring village.

There was zero thought put into this game. It's the most generic japanese fantasy anime tropes with dragon's dogma combat.
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>>736533204
then you're a fucking psychopath and belong in a mental ward bro
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>>736483023
That's modded tho.
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>>736533235
half the whole fucking point of dragons dogma is to be the most stereotypical european medieval fantasy setting possible
the other half is fighting big monsters
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>>736533235
botpost
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>>736533235
>DD2 is literally "generic isekai" as a game
???
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>>736532235
Can't agree. 2 warrior controls like a tank stuck in mud. Movement in general is far superior in 1 and the game is more fun as a result.
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>>736533391
Retard post

>>736533393
>???
Great reply

>>736533296
Generic fantasy and european fantasy are not the same. DD1 was unique.
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>>736533235
It's clear they have half finished the game again. The world has all the elements in place, but they are utilized in the most basic way possible. Ideas sort of float around like proof of concept or tech demo. Most likely a combination of rushed development and poorly thought out feature creep.
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>>736532796
Thanks for the hire and portcrystal!
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>>736505928
This is correct
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>>736487161
Ass, and the creator is an insane degenerate who spent years stealing donations and lying. There's a new overhaul project coming out in the (future) so just wait for that
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>tfw you see a girl you used to roll with walking down the street and she turned into a slut.
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>>736532991
Well, no, not really. I like fighter as well but they have pretty different play-styles and different things they can do.
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>>736533772
You're welcome!

I just changed out the save file after I sent her back with that portcrystal so I didn't lose it.
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>>736529409
>>736491949
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>>736532991
But spearhand has invincible aoe bubble shield
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tfw still haven't played DD2. Is it worth playing?
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>>736534497
The biggest disappointment in DD2 is the fact Capcom didn't have the balls to put nipples on the Sphinx.
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>>736529409
>>736491949
Imagine eating out her butthole
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>>736533429
Warrior controls completely fine, you just have have weight to your movement. Warrior in DD1 is the definition of gimp trash, and having him get six total skills wouldn't make DD1's Warrior fun to play let alone good, he's still terrible outside of Arc and spamming light jump attacks.
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>>736534860
>inverted nipples mod for sphinx
It's kino
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>>736533001
You wouldn't be using those skills in the first place, when you play Mage and Sorc you just spam Holy Focus Bolt since everything else you have sucks and takes forever to charge up even with rings/arguments.
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Snowy reported on her Arisen again. "My own master fucked this quest up and didn't end up with a masterpiece like this, well done Arisen." or something to that effect. Also the Griffin seems really small in this sculpture.

>>736534942
Post a link if its so great. pls
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>>736533429
Unironic skill issue.
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>>736534853
I'm playing with mods, so can't really say how the base game holds up, but I'm really enjoying it thus far. Blasts were had.
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>>736535046
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/196
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>>736535130
Kino, downloading.
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>>736535286
If only dd2 were more popular so there could be more sphinx porn
she's literally made for titfucks
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>>736484715
>it's time to enable ray tracing
fr fr no cap that shit be bussin
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>>736534853
nope
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>>736534853
Yes
Install bestiary
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I never liked the idea of pawns and would have preferred if you'd just go to a tavern and hire regular adventure goons.
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>>736534853
Why not? Share your pawn with us
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>>736532579
I'm trying to have an open mind, but I loved Mystic Knight, it speaks to me on a deep level, that's like the class fantasy I generally seek out when given an option. So its going to be hard to be impartial about Mystic Spearhand but I'll try. Maybe just don't think of it as the Mage/Fighter hybrid replacing the Mystic Knight but as an entirely original thing, but the framing is hard to get out of my head, especially since Mystic Knight is literally absent and this is the replacement. Its next on the list so I'll be trying it soon.
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>>736484715
Not falling for your jewish tricks, kike.
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>>736535079
the fact you can't see the irony in this is baffling
are you trolling?
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Anyone have the deleted exxcelent mystic knight mod?
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>>736483023
dragons dogma 1 looked dated back when came out
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>>736513246
You can get the same lightning on PC but putting HDR to low in the settings
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>>736532395
>that shield
Why are you gay
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>>736500289
>>736500343
Khazar milkers.
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>>736533249
You know mage has 2 good augments that are needed right
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>>736533249
I'll take it. As long as my dom barbarian warrior pawn visits me every now and then.
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>>736484432
What you mean by that is 1 looks good and runs on low end (by today's standards) hardware.
2 looks bad and requires a super computer to hit 40fps.
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>>736535772
do you genuinely prefer spamming jumping light attack? is it just bad because it's not arcadey or some shit? get a grip, warrior in dd1 is fucking awful.
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>>736536239
i get 1440p 60 fps thoughbeit
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>>736536034
NG+

Sometimes you do things you're not proud of.
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>>736522689
Try playing this game on a machine that isn't a toaster from the 90s, you dolt. DD2 is one of the most beautiful games out there.
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I shidded when I turned the corner and found this bitch looking and growling at me
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post kino moments
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>>736536627
Where is that?
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>>736536529
lmao
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>>736535286
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>>736536682
Somewhere in the middle of Drabnir's Grotto. I assume Bestiary is responsible for her being there.
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>>736536239
>requires a super computer
The system requirements are lopsided as fuck but you don't need an super expensive PC to get it to run well, you just need a top of the line CPU. DD2 is massively CPU bound, that's the bottleneck, The best consumer CPU you can currently get is a 9850X3D and its only like ~$500 and that'll get you 60+FPS guaranteed.

Unless you're trying for 4k or Gaytracing enabled your GPU doesn't matter so long as its <5 years old and has at least 8gb of VRAM. So you could build a PC to play DD2 at great framerate relatively cheaply compared to something that wants fucktons of VRAM like Cyberpunk, because it doesn't actually need the expensive shit, high end GPUs and shittons of VRAM don't benefit you on DD2, its almost entirely about how good of a CPU you have if you'll get good framerates or not.
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>>736536747
enable path tracing and come back
otherwise the game looks like fucking shit
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>>736536730
Ah, that's really cool. Reinstalling.
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>>736535638
>I never liked the single most unique feature and the most enjoyable mechanic of the game

who are these fucking clowns
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>Running around
>Find a cave
>Delve into it and fight until I reach the end
>Open the treasure chest for my reward
>Some piece of shit that would have been nice to have 15 hours ago
Exploration in DD2 felt like shit because of this.
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DD2 just isn't as iconic as DD1
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>>736529240
>This is your brain on synthetic estrogen
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>>736485715
>can create a better world for everyone
Lm-fucking-mao.
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>>736536783
I will not Jensen, fuck off.
I'm not buying a 5090.
I don't give a shit about AI.
I don't want your fake frames, fake lighting, fake resolution, fake details.
DLSS5 can suck my perineum.
Go away and take your gaytracing with you.
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>>736536917
Ray racing is the opposite of fake lighting thoughbeit
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>>736536842
This>>736530203
For an unknown reason they hate this game with a passion
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>>736536876
80% of the chest rewards are fucking wakestone shards and the other 20% outdated equipment and consumables
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>>736536903
So this is the Dark Arisen
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>>736536907
you made her fatter
her bellybutton is in the wrong position
her core doesnt look as tight
>>> le fixed
kys tranny
this is not the game to self insert as a woman, pedro
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>>736536963
There's a mod for that.
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>>736536682
I hate how scratchy(?) raytracing looks

I don't have the words to describe it but it looks really rough, like the pixels are aggressive and rough, I don't know how you can standing playing it like that, even if the lighting is technically better its hard on the eyes; abrasive.
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>>736537085
is there a mod that rewamps the entire game/story?
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>>736537017
>Le womyn look like this
You will never have an X chromosome, trannoid.
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>>736536627
Is that why the quest didn't complete?
I got the achievement for solving all the Sphinx's riddles, then I attacked her when she said she was fucking off because I didn't miss out on the boss battle, but after the fight was over I still had the quest in my log. Figured it was a bug or an oversight.
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>>736537127
I trust in time Nickesponja will fix that too, like he did everything else in the game.
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>>736529240
Check the pelvis, the modded pelvis is wider about the hips, women tend to have wider hips than men.
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Replaying the first game right now and it's so frustrating how dumb the pawns are in comparison. I can have a mage and archer with me, be within spellcasting distance of an enemy and have them call out "Goblin!," give them the go command and they'll run up within 10 feet of the enemy and everyone will just stand around like it's some awkward party
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>>736537125
I have no idea what you're talking about. Glad that I am not as autistic as you, I guess.
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>>736537402
I actually kinda hate how good the pawns are in DD2, yeah lots of pawns you grab from the rift had dogshit inclinations in DD1, but because them acting like retards was the baseline it allowed for well trained pawns with good inclinations stacks to stand out.

That said just don't grab a sorcerer with scather inclination and you're usually fine.
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>>736537402
careful you might make someone mad posting facts like that
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>>736499358
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https://streamable.com/f0xysi
Pawns in DD2 can take down a Drake by themselves; they couldn't do it in DD1.
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>>736537463
I mean like this, the pixels are overly sharp, its distracting and doesn't look natural at all, and when you have it on for a few hours my eyes start to hurt, I ended up turning pathtracing off as a result.
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>>736537572
Pawns in 1 were pretty good, too.
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>>736537590
You've never had it on, and the word for it is texture, texture anon.
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>>736537572
I remember some anon spending hours searching for pawns with the right inclinations and skills and they were capable of taking down both phases of Daimon by themselves in hard mode
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>>736537245
Sounds like a bug. I did the quest two days ago and it completed just fine.
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>>736537668
My pawn can solo an ogre in 1 too, but drake is another story. Maybe a team of sorcerer pawns spamming meteor but i never tried that

>>736537689
That's impressive, got vid?
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>>736536917
stop being poor
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>>736537572
Pawns are kino in both games for different reasons
dd2 pawns are more consistent and predictable, you can really build more around their behaviors and skills and they have a minimum level of competence
dd1 pawns meanwhile have a much higher ceiling of potential, but require a lot more effort to get them there, and they need upkeep or else they'll fall into bad habits, but man when they get there they feel like fucking heroes
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>>736483969
Yes, we're all about to blast off again
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>>736537497
I'm only early on at 26 trying to get augments so both mine and my summoned pawns aren't well trained at all, but being untrained is one thing, being a blind retard is the annoying part. They'll do it with archers too, all three of us will be actively getting shot to shit and they'll just pace around either me or the general area until I either risk getting sniped or they suddenly wake up from sleepwalking. I guess what I'm actually frustrated with is being stuck with this robe and stick
https://streamable.com/42b3j6
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Wolves hunt in packs
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>>736483969
Real answer is most people who view everything in extremes have grown tired of relentlessly shitting on the game and have moved on, so the people that liked it more or at least didn't hate it are becoming more vocal and willing to engage with the community. There was a time where you genuinely could not talk about dragon's dogma at all without shitflinging.
And with potential dlc news in the future and the modding scene booming with some major new releases that fix the games biggest issues, there's more hope in the air and reasons to go back to the game for some people
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>>736537402
kek I have a friend who's notorious for standing back and not participating in fights when we play co-op games together, I hire his maxed totally dragonforged-out Fighter Pawn and he was just skulking around the edges of fights and not participating when he'd easily one-shot most bosses.
DD1 pawns aren't dumb, they just learn too much from the retard you're hiring them from.
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>>736537684
>You've never had it on
Why do you say untrue things?
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>>736535896
BASED ANON! Even the halos of the lamps are gone!!!
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>>736538072
Does anyone know how that works?
It feels a bit like the Q3 bot rumor sometimes. There's the inclinations, and their skill loadout has a massive difference on their behavior but in terms of how they move around and fight?
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DD1 pawns could never
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>>736538078
Same pic with Pathtracing off
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>>736538129
>>736538078
I too save all my screenshots as 4chan filenames.
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>>736538127
I've had some hired Pawns that will leap onto and facefuck Daimon, when I told that friend to be more aggressive his Pawn started actually attacking enemies proactively.
I have no idea how it works desu.
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>>736538159
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>>736538203
I've noticed thats the case, but I've put it largely down to leashing. Pawn leash range is very finicky. Which honestly can be a bit of a pain when you're playing a sorcerer.
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>>736538209
Uh huh, the first image looks better by the way.
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>>736538127
One thing that's rarely brought up is how augments effect pawn behavior. Jumping attack damage increases cause more jumping attacks, and more vague or utility augments can change how pawns act in subtle ways that aren't fully figured out.
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Which one? i got Disa on my last cycle
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Its the RE engine. Something about it is always off.
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>>736538159
newfag
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>>736538235
I disagree, sure the lighting is more accurate but its harsh on the eye, and I find my eyes hurt after having it on too long, especially in the day.

Its less distracting during night scenes.
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>>736483023
DD2 is too vertical, there are no grand vistas to look over, every sightline is blocked by a fucking 100m high cliff
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>>736538369
same pic, pathtracing off
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>>736538312
I got Ulrika for the dragon and the elf for the true ending because I did her Unmoored part last on my first try. On my second I made sure to get Ulrika both times.
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>>736538374
disagree
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>>736538418
>not jewing fans with npc clothing pack
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>>736484865
Dragons Dogma 2 was sabotaged by the director. It was given plenty of time and money that anyone who actually wanted to make a good game with could have done so.
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>>736538469
there are some really good NPC outfits that you can unlock with mods and distribute throughout the world. PC modding is truly a godsent.
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>>736538479
How many girls did you fuck? We’re going to haunt you forever in hell. You must find a way to save this reality. Innocent souls are being gored.
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>>736538127
Pawns aren't really learning from their arisens directly, they don't start doing x because arisen does x. But doing x may cause them to trigger some enemy knowledge or can change their inclinations (climbing on enemies make them go scather).
Their behavior is affected by inclinations (often to a much higher degree than people assume), enemy knowledge, their available skills, their augments (not all augments affect their behavior) and even other pawns in the same team.
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>>736538128
holy ghosting
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>>736538312
cuck the dwarf
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>>736538128
Framegen was a fucking mistake.
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>>736538404
There is no path tracing in DD2 and the ray tracing looks horrible.
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>>736538659
You can enable pathtracing via REframework and optiscaler
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>>736538524
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>>736538418
I disagree. DD2 suffers from poor visibility and cluttered vistas. In contrast, DD1 offers thoughtfully designed landscapes where landmarks actually matter.

Take the Bluemoon Tower: it’s one of the most iconic sights in the game. You can spot it the moment you step out of Cassardis, and it remains a constant, looming presence from various vantage points across Gransys. It feels like an omnipresent, mysterious goal on the horizon... a destination you know you'll eventually reach, making the journey feel meaningful.
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>>736538694
If this is really pathtracing... than it's horrible. This doesnt look like raytracing at all. PT is much more subtle when it comes to lighting.
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>>736538785

>>736522468
>>736483064

????

Take the Excavation Site on Volcano Island: it’s one of the most iconic sights in the game. You can spot it the moment you step out of Melve, and it remains a constant, looming presence from various vantage points across Gransys. It feels like an omnipresent, mysterious goal on the horizon... a destination you know you'll eventually reach, making the journey feel meaningful.

????
????
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>>736536842
It's still one of my favorite games and I like the pawn system, just not the lore behind it. Them being barely functioning autists felt like a lazy excuse to not have to write deeper personalities for your companion characters.
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>>736483023
I just started playing RE6, I was surprised it kind of shares the same dark muddy shadowy aesthetic as DDDA. In both cases it adds a lot to the atmosphere. MT framework was a great engine.
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>>736538863
>If this is really pathtracing...
I dunno, show you settings.
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>>736537590
What you're seeing there is running pathtracing with a low number of samples, probably 1 or 2, bump samples up to 4 per pixel and take the pic again, it'll be less pixelated.
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>>736538973
Spotted the DD2 retard
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>>736539064
>MT framework was a great engine
The best capcon ever had.
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>>736539064
People say this but release DD1 had a sub-HD 1280x608 display resolution and still ran at ~20fps. So I think DD2 and RE Engine are getting too much shit for its performance. Like yeah obviously MT Framework is going to run like a dream on a high end PC on hardware 4 years into the future from when the game released. If DD2 released in a state like DD1 you'd all be calling MT Framework a mess.

Try playing Dragon's Dogma II on a highend PC built in May 2028 and see how it runs, maybe you'll think RE Engine is also great.
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Alright I started modding, should I use "Simple Difficulty Tweaks"?
Or is the game already perfectly balanced when I use Nickes mods?
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>>736539505
The Bestiary mod already amps up difficulty quite a bit. Try playing it first before adding any dmg, and HP bloat.
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>>736538418
There's some pretty spots but the vast majority of the game is spent with a rocky cliff face ahead of you. DD1 had rolling plains with grand structures in the distance, it all seemed very deliberately designed.
The culprit could be as simple as the character taking up half of the visual real estate in DD1 compared to DD2.
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>>736539505
>should I use "Simple Difficulty Tweaks"?
Yes, the EXP rate in the base game is way too fucking high, and you're completely overpowered by around level 40.

Set your EXP to like 0.250

You can also grab Mura's preset if things are still too easy, its an optional file here, (though you should be using ERO anyway)
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1079?tab=files
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>>736539553
Beautiful pic
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>>736539553
Do these mods change your save files? So if you want to enable disable you gotta make a new character?
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>>736539682
I can't tell you for sure. But I don't think that a mod that alters numeric modifiers like Simple Difficulty tweaks will fuck up your save.
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>>736536268
Yeah because you HAVE TO spam jumping light attack. There couldn't POSSIBLY be any other way to play warrior.
Fag.
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>>736539682
If you're worried use the save manage to make a backup of your old unmodded save.
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/52
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Playing DD1 blind for the first time, am I in for some kino? Any tips?
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>>736539620
https://pastebin.com/WZrsHWaa
Only thing outdated about this guide is Masterworks all is depreciated and replaced with ESO https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1254

But yeah the big ones you want to grab are:
Bestiary
ESO
ERO
GPO
UDD2P
Durnehviir
Dullahan
Weaponlord
SDT
Lenient stagger and exhaustion (Not strictly required but Bestiary assumes you're using it and you'll get wombocombo'd without it)
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>>736538704
Pawn ID of the hottie with the bow?
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>>736540253
A random pawn that I found online when I last played the game months ago. Don't have the ID anymore, sorry.
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>>736538027
The pawn voices in DD1 were so much better than DD2.
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>>736540285
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>>736538785
You're comparing re engine to mt
Give me one single re engine game that doesn't suffer from this problem
That said dd2 still looks miles better than mhwilds
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>>736539858
Wolves hunt in pack
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>>736539759
Find Quina before transporting the head. An npc will find you and tell that she has gone missing.
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>>736539858
Height and weight on characters affects their movement speed (running speed is unaffected) and how much they can carry. And more. In general, if you want you or your pawn to wear heavy armor and heavy weapons, make them big. Smaller characters regenerate stamina quicker, which is useful for yellow vocations and spellcasters.

Don't obsess over stats, change vocations often.

Avoid guardian and nexus inclination. Avoid using commands unless you know exactly what they do.

Do the Witchwood quest and the well quest before going down the Pawn Guild in the city. You can visit the city just fine, but going down the Pawn Guild progresses the main game and cancels certain sidequest. That can happen with several sidequests. You don't need to do all of them, but especially the Witchwood quest is pretty important and opens up another area. Therefore, it's better to do sidequests before progressing the main. Occasionally check on NPCs, revisit Cassardis and other places to see if they have some quest.

Wolves hunt in packs.

You can kick the oxen to make him go faster.
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>>736539858
Cousin fucking is socially acceptable in Gransys.
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These threads got me in the mood for some Dragons Dogma.
Should i replay 1 or 2?
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>>736540816
Flip a coin, heads DD1, tails DD2.
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>>736539858
I'm also replaying from start since i never did bbi
Share your pawn id if you can see it
Where do you find your main pawn id in ddda?
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>>736540816
Play 2 with mods posted above
Everyone who own dd2 on pc should try it atleast once
Also we may get a dlc soon
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>>736483023
>Why is Dragons Dogma 2 so butt ugly compared to Dragons Dogma 1 (and Dark Arisen).
Dragon's Dogma is a super pretty game that captures the feeling of a fantasy world like no other game has and then you spend the majority of your actual gameplay time in a dark damp cave.
This was even the case before BBI
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Oh you can't summon pawns via id in 1
Shame
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Guys... I starting DD2 for my first time. Wish me luck bros.
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>>736541054
Vanilla or modded?
If vanilla then install these mod>>736539942 via fluffy mod manager
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>>736541079
It's my first time. So unmodded.
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>>736539858
>Any tips?
All roads lead to Gran Soren
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>>736541089
No go modded its works really well
Capcom never added a hard mode so game will be piss easy after 10hr of playing
These mods does break anything
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>>736541168
I'm playing it modded as my first playthrough but part of me wishes I did it unmodded, at least a little, so I had that frame of reference. That said I really like the bosses Bestiary adds. So maybe like play for a few hours unmodded and add the mods in after, most of them are pretty non-invasive and dont break your save turning them on after the fact.
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>>736541556
You can disable them any time without breaking save
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>>736537701
Loaded an old save, and did the fight again and the quest completed this time, looks like it was a bug.

>>736541754
True, I've disabled a few that I started with and had no issues after disabling them.
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>>736541932
Get unofficial patch to it fixes most major bug
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>>736541986
I have it installed, that quest not completing is the first bug I've encountered so far this entire playthrough that prompted a reload. Not like its a big deal I got the achievement to fire and all the goodies in-game for the quest completing like the eternal wakestone, its just the quest wasn't complete in the log, which is at most a mild annoyance.

Well actually I also go clipped through the floor while decapitating a Medusa and its head (and me) fell into the abyss below the ground, that also prompted a reload too, but that's the kind of bug that I expect out of any game, just weird edge case clipping issue that you'll never encounter a second time even if you tried. I thought I remember taking a screenshot of it but It doesn't appear in my screenshots folder, oh well.
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>>736537572
>Pawns in DD2 can take down a Drake by themselves;
this is a bad thing you filthy casual
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>>736487876
>>736493774
>>736494408
>>736495031
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>>736494750
This is why DD1 is so sad
So much potential
It's not fair
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>>736541089
Consider at least adding Wild Loot. The game has a problem with all the best gear being purchasable and loot being worthless. Wild Loot moves some shop gear to dungeon chests.
The vanilla loot distribution is genuinely retarded, don't leave it unmodded unless you want to be impressed by just how retarded it is.
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>>736483023
My pawn is the cutest!
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>>736493774
Running through the woods near the abbey fighting bandits as a 7 foot tall warrior lady on 25 fps on my shitty ps3 was one of those small moments where the game just clicked, I'll always be fond of that creepy ass side area
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>>736535046
Loading save gave me an opportunity to screenshot exactly what she said this time.
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why does 2 have so many blacks?
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>>736543987
Because Capcom wanted that activist investment money to hedge their risks on such an expensive game.
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>>736542659
DD2 shared the same fate
And with itsuno gone i don't think capcom will ever try to do anything with this series
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Is there something I don't know here? Why do all the pawns I meet only have augments from the vocation they're currently using? Is everyone else just unaware how good splashing some levels for the augments is?
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holy fuck the hydra was TENSE
on hard mode this bastard oneshots with every attack and has 1 billion hp
0 curratives left
fuckkk
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>>736544985
Is hard mode also applied to BBI?
Because even regular BBI is fucking hard towards the end even if you are decked out
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fuck you guys, seeing these mods is pulling me back in. Are modded vocations a thing?
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>>736545110
Kind of sort of.
Take a look at the skill maker based mods.
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>>736483418
this is the saddest part to me.
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>>736539858
Not him but see >>736540576
In general don't feel like you need to rush to gran soren, cassardis has some relevant story quests that you miss if you go straight there
(you can permanently miss quests, though you shouldn't worry about this too much as it's mostly explicit, but you'll occasionally get a QUEST CANCELLED notification)
>Some of the cassardis quests are shit though - look up a guide on how to catch the thief, for example
Don't play on "hard" mode - it gives like triple XP and gold so it's hard for like an hour then becomes easy, it's weird
>Switch vocations freely - it's a one-off cost, and vocations give you "augments" that once unlocked you can use with any other vocation
There's a hard bandit fight on top of the hill - you can fight him or you can run past
>When you start exploring dungeons, make sure you have both physical and magical damage (either a mixed-damage weapon, or two weapons) in case you encounter an enemy that only takes damage from one type or the other
There are two types of notice board quests - escort quests and "kill x rabbits" quests. You can only take 1 escort quest at a time, and as soon as you take it that character starts following you around, and can be killed, so don't take one of these until you're ready to go straight to that place. But take all the "kill x rabbits" quests straight away - you can take them all at once, and they're free gold + XP as you're playing through the game
>enemy weaknesses can matter a lot, some enemies cough saurens take much more damage if you use the right damage type
etc.
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>>736544985
It's funny how the hydra is the rarest enemy in the game excluding bosses
You only see it and it's variant once
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I tried so many times with this game but no matter what class I use it's too slow and too clunky for me to enjoy. Pretty bad when your game is less fluid than DMC3 on the fucking ps2
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any tips on how to make an attractive pawn?
My pawn looks good in the character creator, but then fucking ugly in the game world
should I just take a preset?
What about the preset mods?
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>>736545937
Keep their face close to the golden ratios, then add a quirk. A little deviation adds personality, too much is uggo. Angelina Jolie had almost perfect ratios expect her nose is a tad off, but that made her face recognizable and distinctive.
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>>736545937
>any tips on how to make an attractive pawn?
Change the lighting/background options in the creator and check all light angles.



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