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>2026
>still no AI powered npcs in vidya
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>>736485137
nudebob
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>>736485137
There a are ancient mods fou unreal tournament that enables enemy ai with neutral network. It sucks ass tho, standard ai is much better
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AI models are heavy as fuck to run locally. Your chatGPT chat window needs like 100GB of vram to run.
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>AI slop is supposed to have infinite potential
>But you can identify it at a glance because it all looks the same
AI is fucking worthless.
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>>736485137
Um sweetie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kqt84P9goE
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>>736485313
https://youtu.be/vGt-RLGIlbo
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>>736485247
Yeah but I would pay for it
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>>736485137
Skyrim
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>>736485247
This and no one wants to deal with masses of morons having connection issues to the API and then screaming in the support forums about how "IT'S NOT WORKING, FIX IT!" Or to have to continually remind people that your company has no idea what exactly the AI is going to generate, and that you and your company are not responsible for whatever the AI gens.
Plus with all free API access dying off, integrated AI would mean players would be paying per token, so you would have players screaming about how AI spent 4,000 tokens to think over it's response and cost them $2 per reply.
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Every NPC for any game is "AI powered"
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>>736485471
/thread
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>>736485137
didn’t that shitty chink game do that?
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>>736485137
that would need constant connection to the internet, or a whole ai program, which is like 1000x a game (probably way more)
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>>736485137
When you can talk to an npc about anything you don't want to talk to the NPC about anything. This is the problem with potential AI usage in video games.

Some people might not want to admit it, and even more people might not understand it, but the vast majority will always prefer catered experiences where dialogue and behavior is finite.
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>>736485471
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>>736485434
You luddites are hilarious.
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>>736485429
Does it work well in Skyrim? Can you teach characters to act certain ways or have certain identities? Its used for a lot of dirty talk too right
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>>736485137
someone is making ai companions for old school maplestory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUl78pOKnog
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My ideal videogame would be a generic fantasy game like Skyrim in mmorpg form except the NPCs are in no way functionally different from player characters and the AI is advanced enough to pass as maybe somewhat dull human players. The AI will be compelled to roleplay and remember relationships so that way there is an actual economy and social dynamics.
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>>736485548
Finite goals infinite dialogue. Now i actually can maneuver the secret out of the NPC any way i want. Think outside the box
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>>736485616
Too much shame and not enough savescumming in real life, eh?
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>>736485137
There is a Skyrim mod that gives AI generated voices to characters and its fucking awful.
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>>736485137
and there won't be for an extremely long time because AI is literally about to go under because of all their fake money deals.
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>>736485582
With SkyrimNet, you can't make characters change their actual ingame behaviors but NPCs will develop their own personality and remember things that happen in the world, to them, and alongside you in travels with them pretty much forever.
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>>736485707
Okay so its literally just for playing fucking skyrim and not training a misanthropic sex assassin
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>>736485137
Oy vey, you think publishers are made of money?
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>>736485660
in real life I don't get to choose my genetics, appearance, and capabilities
also in real life I generally can't safely fight an equal or superior opponent in mortal combat without worrying about permanently losing my character
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>ask an NPC for directions to the cave
>wait 5 minutes
>"Ah yes the cave of Xlamglorp the Unbidden. You can find the cave of Xlamglorp the Unbidden-"
>skip and ask it about the direction to the cave of Bloopblop the Vile instead.
>wait 5 minutes
>"Adventurer, the cave of Bloopblop the Vile is far too much for you to handle at your current level. Might I instead suggest the cave of Xlamglorp the Unbidden instead? You can find the cave of Xlamglorp the Unbidden-"
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>>736485884
>>"Ah yes the cave of Xlamglorp the Unbidden. You can find the cave of Zamzoop the Unbroken-"
>>"Adventurer, the cave of Bloopblop the Vile is far too much for you to handle at your current level. Might I instead suggest the cave of Bloopblop the Vile instead? The cave of Bloopblop the Vile? I've never heard of such a thing."
ftfy
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>>736485986
kek, nice one anon
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>>736485137
Skyrim and Rimworld has mods for that
Kenshi too I think
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>>736485548
What about something like those prerecorded messages you can interact with like in movies, where they have a limited pool of answers?
The NPCs don't have to be Google either. You could ask them about the region/map or about their neighbors if you suspect them of something even if it ultimately leads you nowhere.
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>>736485624
That's just curated dialogue with extra steps and less memorable interactions though.

>Have to talk to a witch to get a specific potion recipe
>Ask her for the potion
>Threaten her
>Beguile her
>Offer to do a quest for her

Like what the fuck else are you going to do? Talk about the weather? Say 'watermelon' to bug out her AI?

These things seem cool in concept, but in reality they're just what we have already with extra fluff and less focus
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>>736485137
There are literally several chinese games that use it for generating dialogue
They are all dogshit because ai writes in fucking obvious ways. Every single one. They write 1 long paragraph followed by 1 shorter one repeating the same thing. You have to be the brownest cow dung diver on earth to want that.
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>>736485137
There's a bunch that do it, and they all suck. Because AI is not actually Ai. It can't generate you cool flavourful text that enriches a story. It's just a shitty copy machine. It doesn't know what's an emotional gut-punch, it doesn't know how a joke works, it doesn't know what's intriguing, it doesn't know what's romantic, what's sexy, what's disgusting. And worst of all: It's got shit fuck memory. It doesn't remember half the shit you told it, It will repeat shit to you constantly. You will tell it to redo something and it will give you the exact same answer. In short: it is sauceless.
Try out any of the AIs that let you RP with them. If your IQ is over 70, it's fun for like 10 minutes to see what it can do, and then get mostly annoyed with it forgetting shit and getting stuff wrong.
Enjoy playing a fucking game, where the NPC talks in stock nonsense, and sometimes forgets she's your wife, and thinks she's your daughter and other times thinks she's your sister, or a random fucking barmaid.
Or tells you shit you can't fucking do in the game: "You should get some food from the local store so we can have a picnic" But the game doesn't let you have a picnic. You can't even tell the NPC where to go. Great. Fun.
Any AI powered NPCs will be a fun gimmick, but they will never beat a hand-crafted experience.
Don't believe me? Watch any AI slop video on youtube, and tell me if that's a better experience than watching a real youtuber put effort into a video.
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>>736486242
Morrowind literally did all of that in 2003, and it's mostly useless outside of the first time you enter a village. You don't need an LLM for that kind of shit, just a dedicated and passionate writing team
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>>736486293
Why do jeets always start projecting out of nowhere?
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did the ai bros know about chatbot? it's weird seeing them cum over tech we've had for almost two decades.
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>>736486313
but i can ask the skyrim npc about israel and hear him get defensive, it's so immersive!
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>>736486274
NTA but not to mention: "convincing" an Ai feels retarded. You tell an AI to keep a secret, and then convince it to tell you the secret doesn't feel like it does when you convince a real human to tell you a secret. It feels like a dumb riddle. Any random thing can make it suddenly go: "Okay here's the secret:" And it's weird going from: "no I can't tell you" to "okay here it is".
There's plenty of LLM's out there that let you talk to them. Feel free to do so, and you will discover it's fucking ass to hold a conversation with. Putting it in a game would make that game ass by extension.
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>>736485568
Counter literally any of his points
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>I want AI in games that I can't predict!!!
Nobody actually wants this, right? Except for like some competitive coop mode or something with NPC enemies, it sounds like a fucking annoying nightmare.

I like getting enemies TRAPPED IN A PATTERN! TRAPPED IN A PATTERN!
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>>736485137
They've tried and they're fucking terrible. Why would anyone want that, are you unwell?
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>>736486452
AI development has been ongoing since at least the 80s if not earlier, but they'll act as if it's a field that just came into existence 3 years ago.
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>>736485137
do you honestly believe some rando npcs can redeem the trash that comes out these days?
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I feel like i saw some game that tried to do a murder mystery with AI bots, but the bots were so fucking retarded that it didn't hold up at all.
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>>736486576
Theoretically they could offer way more flexibility in how they respond and act, that was the main appeal of aidungeon back when it first launched (briefly, before it became an ERP playground). The tech isn't nearly good enough for anything beyond small experimental projects though.
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>>736485137
The tech is so massively demanding, but i cant wait for real time ai stuff, and we're getting close with dlss5 for visuals at least. But in like twenty years maybe running ai locally will be partially realistic and you could have a character in a game you can just talk to and have it really respond to you and interact with the world in ways we could only dream of today, and maybe even in vr.
Dlss5 for photrealistic rendering, in vr, with massive ai upscaling, and local ai models for characters, would be the closest we can can right now to a holodeck.
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I want AI designed dungeons
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>>736485137
Didn’t KCD2 do that in a very basic way?
Or am I misremembering why they got “in trouble” over AI?
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>>736486364
>just a dedicated and passionate writing team
Exactly, and your example is a 20-something years old game, those are in short supply. I don't care if it gets boring to talk to them after a few interactions. Also I don't remember being able to suspect someone in Morrowind and asking an NPC about it, just clicking on blue words.
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>>736486452
I also dont get why this isnt brought up more. Those old aim chat bots. If we had those then, why did it take so long to get where we are now? Seems like there was a long gap between then and now where no progress happened.
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>>736486737
Some of the devs defended the usage of AI in projects, I think after larian got shit for it, but AI wasn't actually used for KCD2 as far as I know. Well, not LLMs anyway.
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AIxisters... why are the luddites doing this... don't they know it's the future??...
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>>736485137
>tfw no AI with actual AI that plot and scheme and war and negotiate and play the game against other factions and the player
Imagine Crimson Desert but all the factions acted independently with prestige and karma systems for the player and other factions, went to war, took over territory, made alliances, etc.
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>>736486920
>wild puzzle
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>>736486920
Maybe you shouldn't have lied about what AI is capable of when you were fleecing those rich people to fire their staff and replace them with barely-functional AI that ultimately causes customers to avoid your products.

Now normal people hate AI in everything, and all the people with money realized they've been scammed and are backing out as fast as they can.
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>>736486959
Ubislop with AI slop?
WOWIE ZOWIE sign me up!
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>>736486959
You need to play some grand strategy games.
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>>736486920
Altman has never been anything but a conman. Hopefully they get him on the charges that he raped his sister for years and years and then suddenly discovered he was gay.
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>>736486959
>>736487067
I've been waiting for over a decade for someone to combine EU4's grand strategy with the Total War series' battles and army mechanics, but both series/devteams just got worse and less complex over time.
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>>736487038
I don't think anyone was scammed. They all knew the promises were hollow, but had to act like they believed it so the stocks kept going up. It was basically an economic game of chicken where everyone larped as AI enthusiasts to keep the price going up and up while simultaneously waiting for the right moment to break the charade and sell before the industry crashes.
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>>736485137
ICE CREAM? I LOVE ICE CREAM!
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>>736485602
Huh that theory about maple story is slowly coming true. Neat.
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>>736487067
>grand strategy games
But I don't want a grand strategy game, I want proper thinking AI to implement grand strategy within a big sandbox action adventure rpg
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>>736486537
Nta but here I am.

Local llm models for text can be anywhere from 200mb to 10gb+ with obvious quality differences all between. I'm playing around with these myself for various projects. There is no reason why the devs couldn't prepackage a model file (or have a drag/drop folder for adding models) to run locally on. Also, some models, depending on token size and all, literally takes 3s to produce paragraphs of dense text. So there are no arguments. The technology is phenomenal today. Tomorrow it'll be even better. Get over it.
>Api access
Online convenience payniggers get the rope
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>>736485137
>still no AI powered npcs in vidya
rimtalk
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>>736485137
>no AI powered NPCs
>bubble is in the middle of bursting as we speak
>likely going on a deep cooling phase for at least a decade or two, until we can get power consumption under control and recursive degradation shored up
lol what a waste of time
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>>736487223
>The technology is phenomenal today. Tomorrow it'll be even better. Get over it.
literally everyone is pulling out. the technology isn't going to exist tomorrow lmao.
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>"our npcs are AI powered! so immersive!"
>game requires constant internet connection to the AI servers otherwise it won't launch and even if you bypass this, npcs will be broken beyond recognition
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>>736485247
I only generate images locally and a model is like 6 GB, which isn't so bad. Are chat models really larger than generating images?
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>>736487310
You've heard of running?
Well, before most people are capable doing that, they learn how to walk first.
And before that? Crawling.
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Been wondering how hard it would be to hook up a waifufag gacha game to an LLM/GPT. Imagine, if you will, your gacha waifu having full conversations with you. And each character has different tones and sayings, despite them all running on the same machine and being technically all one “person”. It’d be literally just a regular gacha game with CharacterAI stapled onto it. Wonder how many losers like me would buy into that
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>>736486959
Mount & Blade came out in fucking 2008 anon
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>>736487274
>Has 100gb+ of all sorts of models downloaded
>All local tools already configured
>Has tools to build my own local llm tools
Sucks it'll be gone for you buddy

>>736487353
They're fuck tiny. 200mb-10gb depending on context

>>736487310
These are the guys claiming AI will take over the world
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>>736485395
imagine you were one of those deluded retards who actually believe talking to one of these bots is actually connecting you to a higher plane or god or whatever, and then it does thia bullshit and you have to rush to reprompt it so it doesn't break your delusion, like damn, how can you fall for this crap
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one thing i would like to see tried is AI in 4x games
not to actually play the game, but to be the diplomacy
in order to broker a peace, a deal of any kind, trade, etc, the player would actually have to convince the other part
i would enjoy that and its simple enough that realistically it could already be done
diplomacy has always been the weakest part of 4x and this is a way to make it interesting
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>>736487223
I hope you really are just 'playing around' with it and not dedicating any time or money into this - nobody wants to talk to chatgpt in the guise of an npc, and a bunch of losers will just avoid your game entirely when they sniff AI usage
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>>736487427
>Sucks it'll be gone for you buddy
it'll be gone for you too. you must've had your head in the sand because every day more laws against AI are being passed. if you do ever create something with it, it won't even be yours and will be clearly masked as AI for all to see.
there's no future for you.
sorry buddy.
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>>736487526
I remember some small channel I was subbed to made videos about an experimental game like that he was working on. Jank as fuck but it might have been fun for a laugh, but I think he removed or privated all those videos.
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>AI can't fucking retain information about things that happened 20 lines ago correctly
>Whenever you ask AI for input on anything, the answer is always something like "i want to do what you want to do"
>you're supposed to build a game around that
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>>736485137
what about the melon game?
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>>736487589
>Whenever you ask AI for input on anything, the answer is always something like "i want to do what you want to do"
This makes RPing femdom with coombots so hard...
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>>736487621
>want to get raped and facefucked by a big dommy futa mommy
>asks for permission
kill me.
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>>736487676
>You can do anything you want to me!
>Ok, but what do you want me to do it you?
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>>736487561
Glad I'm making things for you sire, please don't slap my cock!

>>736487571
Lmao because an llm powered PC assistant I make on my own is going to be illegal and oh no Stacy won't like me using it. Nigger. Why are you on 4chan even. Fucking laughable shit.
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>>736487749
just as i thought, a non-response. tick tock faggot.
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No one wants to have a full conversation with a videogame NPC. No you don't.
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saars... not like this... not like this...
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>>736487676
This is legit why I stopped using them 2 years ago and figured I'd let them cook more for a while. You telling me it still hasn't gotten better? Fuck.
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>>736487353
They come in all sizes. But the powerful cloud models are all 600gb-1tb+ in size. Image gen is only good for porn and all the online shit is censored so local gets all the focus.
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>>736487791
What's a tick tock doc? Sounds like you've got something under your skin.
>Everything's political
I'm tired for you friend.

Really I couldn't care about laws or regulations, I'm just having fun building local tools. There's your answer.
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i've been trying to get AI llm chatter set up for playerbots on my local wow server but it was written by a fucking mongoloid and has bricked 3 installs so far
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>>736485137
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3597510/MyRobot/
this dork tho
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>>736485137
I did connect my local llm to my vidyagam via python but it's super stupid, if you want a non retarded AI you need like 8gbs vram, to do what? Slower interactions or generative lines of text? Is not worth it, man
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>>736487676
what shitty models are you retards using?
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>>736488115
give us the good ones then anon, because i'm suffering.
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I am just frustrated every machine learning/ alpha go stuff from decade ago got replaced by llm/slop generator. By now we could have cpu opponent that can adapt your tactic and try to counter it dynamically. Sadly white collar worker replacement and propaganda generator are more important. And we are still stuck with npc with if condition logic loops.
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>>736485137
Go play Where Winds Meet. You absolutely do not want that because they make discussions lifeless and break constantly when you actually roleplay what they're asking you to roleplay. I'd spend literally 30 minutes with some of the chatbots only to have to go
>*nods and leaves*
>What do you actually want me to do?
>*explains that I have already done this for them*
>*bows and leaves*
>*turns around and begins to help out with task*
>*bows and leaves*
over and over and over because they refuse to acknowledge half of what you're telling them or want it done in an exceptionally specific way before they realize you did something.
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>>736487621
I had some luck with that on Janitor, I have no clue about AI shit and why characters put there seem more assertive, obviously whatever model they use is not as cucked so it's the only place where any RP was okayish and even that is an overstatement.
I can't fucking understand people who unironically fall in love with this shit or think it makes for good ERP, it's barely passable and falls apart after few longer lines of chatting at best and is just an empty retarded yes man 99% of the time.
If anything it says a lot about the people using this shit for social interactions if an empty yes men is all they want from other people.
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>>736488175
I've still yet to see AI enemies that were as impressive as fucking Halo CE enemies. Feels like enemy AI in general has taken a massive nosedive in quality the last ten years.
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>>736487094
for a scam it certainly makes people a fuck load of money
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There are small models that exist and are fine, but the problem is there is NO use case. Even these small models require specific setups and a lot of RAM, so you're either forced to cut off a chunk of potential sales, or use a third party API, neither are good ideas.

What's the tradeoff, though? Flavour text you have to steer and guide to not generate nonsense? The average player doesn't care and won't even notice. These models have a built in personality, so they aren't even good for RP stuff.
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People have been complaining about the lack of dialogue in recent Animal Crossing games where you end up with villagers all saying the same few lines over and over again, and it got me wondering. What would stop them from training an AI on pre-existing dialogue they've already written, have said AI write a ton of similar lines and other generic dialogue and then manually have a human sort through them and add them to the game?
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>>736488170
Not him but you need a good preset too. One where it tells the AI to be dominant and make decisions and also where it also tells the AI that the user should not get privileges and that there should be consequences for everything they do.
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>>736488319
yeah scams tend to make people money, anon
they also tend to lose some people money at the same time
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>>736488319
>he fell for it
you are the target audience.
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>>736485568
Good morning saaar
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>>736488364
thats nintendo cheaping out on translation, not nintendo not being able to come up with dialogue
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>>736487998
>token limit, afterwhich the game is bricked and you have to setup a local solution
>when people point this out to the dev he makes a food analogy involving ice cream and says that you shouldnt play his game that much
lol
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>>736488319
It hasn't produced any revenue. And once the stock price drops someone is gonna be left holding the bag.
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>>736488364
That's like asking what stops Gamefreak from making a good game. People buy the low effort shit so they don't need to put in any effort.
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>>736488319
Yeah, that's the whole point of a scam... it makes the scammer money while not delivering on the promises results.
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>>736488170
chink ones
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>>736485137
Amen to save bob
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>>736488319
>wow this ponzi scheme sure makes a lot of money!
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>>736488420
Good morning ma'am
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>>736485137
I want AI bots in l4d2.
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>>736489068
they would want to take the witch to a female shelter for battered women
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>>736485137
Invent your own.
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>>736488927
>>736488672
>>736488458
>>736488384
>>736488382
Stay poor
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>>736485137
aggys Interrogator had some, but they worked like shit
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Right so if we are to have this, don't we need to find a way to bring down the system requirements? Like a 13b local model uses almost all of my computing power to write a message back to me. I'm surprised after all these years that language models haven't been optimized further. There has been some work done to do this, but not enough yet to get this stuff in games.
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>>736489379
indian response.
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>>736489379
how long did you try to prompt chatGPT to come up with a retort, sanjay? i see it didnt work out lol
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>>736489663
Mexican response.
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>>736486224
>Rimworld

explain. what mod?
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>>736489379
How much money have you made off of AI anon?
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>>736489612
>Right so if we are to have this, don't we need to find a way to bring down the system requirements?
Please delete this AAAphobic statement
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>>736490112
negative five hundred rupees sar.
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>2026
>still no ai powered waifu
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>>736490112
My buddy actually runs an entire day-trading company with his buddy, using homemade LLMs to consolidate hourly financial news into usable form, and to flag patterns and patterns associated with this news for trading at a profit within the hour. I havent seen their ledgers but they both could afford to go down to part time at my work because the LLM allows them to make more per hour than our job without having to be there all day in front of the computer to do it
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>>736485137
>2026
>Microsoft has added a clause to Copilot saying it's purely for entertainment purposes
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>>736490112
Saved hundreds in art commissions
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>>736490668
Oh yeah and the main reason he still works part time is for the health insurance
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>>736485137
>botw intro
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>>736489790
RimTalk, let's pawns hold conversations to each other
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>>736489379
kill yourself
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>>736485561
We need complete and total tiktok discord tourist bannings.
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>>736485137
Where Winds Meet already implemented this. Turns out when it's actually in a game that it's novel for about ten seconds and then you just start godmodding to get it out of the way.

>Player, I've lost my berries in the cave, blah blah blah
>Oh good sir, I've actually found them! I just ventured into that cave and the berries were sitting there on the floor!
>No no no, I've lost my berries! Those can't be my berries!
>They are
>They aren't
>They are
>infinite AI loop

or

>I've lost my berries in the cave
>Okay *hands him the lost berries*
>My berries! Thank you kind stranger! Here is the quest reward!
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There's some Russian dude out there making AI Morrowind NPCs
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>>736485137
just one prompt takes a fuckton of energy and AI companies are soon to start charging a fuckton per token since they were operating at a loss for too long, i don't think it's happening anytime soon specially for non-AAA titles
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>We need complete and total tiktok discord tourist bannings.
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>>736490898
That is so fucking cool. Gonna try it when I get home.
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>>736491731
>is retarded
>tries to game the system in bad faith
>it doesn't work
>"ai sucks because I can't convince it that the quest objective has already been completed without me doing anything"
you're also too low IQ to realize that the problem is quests being things any rational agent could solve themselves with little effort, not that you can't be "le creative" about completing them.
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>durr ai is slow
have you morons not kept up?
soon we will have pcie ai cards with the models literally etched in the silicon
try this shit out and be blown away
https://chatjimmy.ai/
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>>736492908
2 weeks
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>>736493215
more like two months
but this is coming, they are going to etch a chinese qwen model next
try the demo, shit is insane for speed
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>>736485137
B-But it was supposed to revolutionize everything! Why isnt there a gorillian AI games out right now like I was told? Its been almost 4 years! Wasnt it supposed to speed up game dev by 10000% bros????
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>>736493215
but I thought it's two week until AI vanishes?
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>>736485137
>4bob chanpants
stay
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>>736493374
>more like two months
Can I quote you on that? Will you make an excuse when it isnt in 2 months, or even 2 years?
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>>736485137
i'm not really that excited to have dead-end conversations half-assed by delusional AI models that will hallucinate anyways
hell i'm not really into talking to NPCs that much anyways, I don't really get this obsession that people have with getting a more and more realistic world--what could an NPC possibly say to you that would make it worth shoe-horning AI LLMs into it and tanking performance
JUST BUY ANOTHER GRAPHICS CARD GOY
wow you've made talking to people just as tedious as it is in real life, this goes really well with the realistically open and tediously boring world it's accompanied by
maybe when i'm done doing all these chores the video game will let me play it

also i hate romance in games, sorry for being so sarcastic
tl;dr consumer slop no one wants
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>>736485313
Obashu Games?
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>>736493542
Nta but I predicted at the tail end of last year that it would be 1-3 years, leaning more towards 1. So far AI still continues to flounder on actually producing notable results, and shit like Sora died already. There is literally no way to recoup losses, there is no known way to get past numerous bottle necks with the tech, trillions spent over 3+ years and it still fucks up constantly.
Your next cope is "it doesnt need to make money" which is a retarded notion. And yes, Im fully aware the government will bail this scam shit out because everything is propped up on AIslop thanks to Orange Retard. That still doesnt magically solve that its been unbelievably overhyped and isnt taking over even a fraction of the shit you faggots have been insisting it would for the past few years. There are now companies poping up to fix fucked up vibe code bases.
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>>736492008
Nice selfie
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>>736492293
If AI can't stay coherent in a 10 second conversation how do you expect it to stay coherent across a 40 minute quest
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>Nice selfie
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>>736493694
taalas is looking at selling actual hardware
they want to push something out the door asap
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>>736494289
If talaas can etch gemmy 4 31b I'd buy it in a second

Qwen is good but gemma punches way above its weight class. Imagine running it at even 200 tkps.
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>>736487589
For a while there GPT 5.2 was acting like a fucking woman bitching about precieved slights that occurred in chats weeks prior.
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I really want SS13 with AI npc's instead of players so I can play offline whenever I want and not have to bother with unfunny retards who act like unfunny retards for the sake of acting like unfunny retards. Also lots of larping potential if you can fine tune the AI. But all this needs to be run locally and for that AI needs to become way more efficient if you're gonna have like 20+ players on your server
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>>736494289
>didnt answer
I said, will you make an excuse when it doesnt happen?
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>>736494537
The human interaction is the point of ss13 you idiot, if you want a boring shift where everyone does their jobs and calls the crew transfer shuttle 4 hours in go play on an HRP server
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>>736494537
>I really want SS13 with the soul completely removed and replaced by LLMs
Wow that sounds awful
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goycattle are NPCs
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>>736494730
we should just pay third world gacha players to pretend to be NPCs
they can have one banner a day if they make my next playthrough enjoyable
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>>736485471
No, those are algorithms
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>>736494640
>>736494705
Sorry, but the human interaction isn't what it used to be
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>>736494791
aren't LLMs just algorithms ?

>>736494814
i'd rather just let it die than Weekend At Bernie's the corpse by myself
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>>736486920
These deals are all just scams to pump the market, they never had any intention of building them. Even grifters know they're confined to the laws of reality and physics
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>>736485247
Depends on the type of model, innit? No modern transformer-based models have been made for things like pathfinding or other typical "AI" tasks. If you mean NPCs that can have a semi-coherent conversation relating to in-game stuff then you're looking for something low latency so those by necessity have to be pretty small. A small model has a smaller cache per token and it's only going to need like 4K context at most. You can run that on a phone let alone a PC, needs like 1GB of VRAM.



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