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Why did FFXVI utterly fail?
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>>736486587
When you make something for the "wider audience" you can get no audience at all. It could sell more if it was something like Crimson Legend or so
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>>736486587
Because it launched on the PS5, a console nobody has.
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why is there a sperg obsessed with FF16
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>>736487227
There's one person who likes FF15, and he posts on /v/ constantly bitching about every other game in the series.
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>Nobody owns a PS5 except blacks and people who don't play JRPG's
>Released as an epic exclusive then launched on steam for full fucking price after a while

These retards wanted to have three cakes and eat them all too.
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>>736486587
Final Fantasy is no longer a "system seller". Square genuinely thought people would buy a PS5 to play their game and I have to think that was their strategy given how early in PS5's life it came and the install base of PS5 when it was being developed.

And then today's audience doesn't want to hear "it's a good game with some minor problems". It flew in the PS1 days and prior when every game was like 10 hours long and games like FF were outliers, but now games are so long and backlogs are so big that people buy like 5 new games a year (or just stick to a backlog they've been trying to crush for a decade or two) and will only buy the ones that are reviewed as basically perfect.
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>>736486587
Ps5 exclusive = dead on arrival
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>>736486587
I loved it. With the DLC it was a solid 9/10 for me. I wish it was longer with more content.
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>>736486587

Sold more than Rebirth and Stranger of Paradise apparently.

Also someone badly has it out for Yoshida at Square-Enix. Guy is essentially keeping that fucking company afloat for a decade with the FFXIV pay piggies and they simply refuse to give him any budget whatsoever for a major project.

Apparently even FFXIV has been stuck in low budget hell for a long while too. (Which explains why Endwalker's support was so fucking shit in comparison to earlier expansions)
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>>736486587
The lack of actual party members killed the interest of JRPG fans, while everyone else either wasn't interested in a JRPG franchise or was spooked by the number. Basically what >>736486798 said.
Also, faggots.
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>>736486587
>Why did FFXVI utterly fail?
Just another piece of shit to add to Yoshida's list of failures. DT was a piece of shit. FF16 was a piece of shit. Surprised he hasn't been demoted yet.
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i got it over the winter sale and the gameplay is just boring. I put 9 hours into it and its just really bland. Not actiony enough nor RPG enough.
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>>736492426
DT still made numbers because the entirety of FFXIV has legs
We're well into the expac and I still see our FC recruiting sprouts playing the game for the first time asking questions in FC chat about the game whether they're in ARR, Heavensward, or beyond.
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FF16 finally jumped the shark on the "kill God" plot
except 13-3 went pretty hard into the same plot except there it was decently interesting in concept and a lot of its pain points are a result of baggage from existing characters
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>>736493248
Really? Most FCs are dead these days. Most people either quit or waiting for 8.0. My 50+ FC has like maybe 6 people on at a time. speaking to other people, that's a common theme.
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>>736492560
Presumably you got it on PC and you can hack it to be on the hardest difficulty right away. It doesn't fix every issue, but the game is a lot more fun when enemies can put up a fight.
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>>736493642
Oh, I've got one of the biggest on my server. Like 500 people.
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>>736486587
it's based chuunikino and i enjoyed it so i don't care
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>>736486798
>When you make something for the "wider audience" you can get no audience at all
What audience?
FFXVI used Devil May Cry combat because Yoshi wanted to "appeal to little kids"
But then they told a very mature story with constant 1 hr cut scenes that no little kid has the attention span for anymore - ANY parent could have told you this!!

So, who was FFXVI for!? What audience?
fucking dumbass old Japanese men...
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>>736486587
I wish 16's failure was anywhere near as big as anons pretend it is. It may have under performed SE's expectations (which are notorious for being unrealistic) but it was nowhere near bad enough to get them to actually change tack.
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>>736493642
The game is for sprouts. You have everything to do as a sprout.
When you've caught up, maxed up jobs tried things left and right, that's when the game has nothing to offer anymore. The patches are so barebone in terms of content if you're not raiding. Or it's some boring shit no one plays like deep dungeons.
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>>736486587
Because Yoshi-P thought it would be a great idea to completely remove all RPG elements from this RPG.

That's it, all the bad things XVI stem from this decision. Everything. If the game was an RPG it would rank as a good Final Fantasy
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>>736493248
DT sold well because EW was received well.
The next expansion could be the best expansion in MMO history but it will not sell well because DT was just that awful
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>>736486587
Didn't fail. Just didn't do anything spectacular.
It's just a decent entry.
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no good waifus. Jill was half asleep

https://youtu.be/ZfIXHgAq6Kw
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>>736494925
he thinks he didn't do that too
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>>736494925
>If the game was an RPG it would rank as a good Final Fantasy
You're imagining a completely different game that happens to meet all your criteria for fun. A game where fire and water spells do the same damage to every enemy is not a good RPG. FF16 is a weird half step towards action where someone who wanted DMC or whatever will be annoyed at how much is taken from FF14, and someone who wanted FF14 will be annoyed at how it drops so much from that.
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>>736495329
>no rpg elements in his mmorpg
>no rpg elements in his single player rpg
Has anyone tried asking him yet what he thinks an RPG is?
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>padded with garbage sidequests
>political storyline just gets dropped for muh demiurge again
>cooldown based combat
>utterly wasted storyline characters
>no party
>grim ending where almost everyone dies
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>>736495329
That was an inaccurate localization.
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YoshitPiss garbage.



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