Only 4 games here still hold up
Visually they all look like shit minus Bayonetta. You can fix some of them on emulator but in reality none of them "hold up"
>>736490114I played 10 of these recently, with no nostalgic bias, and they all hold up
>>736489924I could count 12, your taste is trash
>>736489924All these games are still fun to play with the right mindset.
>>736490208Visually? No they aged like milk.
>>736490443No they all looked great
Only 4 games DON'T hold up you gun and ball tik tok brained faggot troon.
>>736490443Who cares about the visuals?
>>736490443So what? You did too
>>736490482Terrible taste.>>736490569The majority of people who play games. Saying you don't care about the visuals of a visual medium is the epitome of retardation.
>>736490114smb3 and dkc2 look better than every game released in the last 5 years
>>736489924You know whoever made this is a larping retard because they put super mario 3 instead of super mario world
>>736490650Video games aren't a visual medium retard. It's an interactive medium.
>>736490443>Super Metroid>SotN>Red Alert 2>ICO>RE4>Metal Slug >Demon's Souls>ALTTP>Chaos Theory>Falllut>JA2>Hard Corps>visually look like shitGet better bait zoomer retard, you haven't even played a quarter of these games
>>736490706Nope, SMB3 is definitely more oldhead coded while SMW is more casual/zoomer coded
>>736490903oh you're the larping retard that made it lmaolarping retard
>>736489924I'm old and I like all these games.
>>736490718Turn your screen off then and try to interact with it. >>736490751Yes, they look like shit, I already established that you don't need to rehash my point by making a list. Not everything you dislike is "bait" and not everyone you disagree with is a "zoomer". Grow up you're pushing 40 seething because games from your childhood did not age well. I played everything on the list in release year or in the 90s, minus 2 games on the bottom I've never heard of.
>>736489924>oldheadIt's called uncslop
>>736489924>no AOE2>no BWa consolefaggot made this
>>736489924>BG2>Ico>Cave story>VtMB>Fallout >Castlevania/Super Metroid >Max payne All have aged like fine wine kys engagement baiting zoomer
@736491097Annnnnnd he just threw his whole bucket of bait straight into the lake. Too obvious bro
>>736489924>Only 4 games here still hold upOnly one of those still holds up: RA2. The rest is trash that has been surpassed by far better games.
>>736490650>The majority of peopleThe majority of people would kill you if they were convinced that you were a bad person even if you were completely innocent. People are gullible sheep. People regularly go to the polls every 2-4 years and vote for people that don't have their best interests in mind. Most people will actively set their children up for failure so long as their own lives are comfortable. Most people complain about systems in place without understanding why the systems in place work the way they do. I don't give a shit about the majority. I hope the majority suffer, because the truth is they deserve it.
>>736491186>@retard
>>736491130What is BW? Black & White? Isn't that that janky ass Molyneux game? Who the hell cares about that? At least say like DOOM or RCT or Starcraft
>>736489924shied muh dick on god cuh dat shit is bible
>>736491208I'm not reading all that seethe. Post it again after your dilation session.
>>736491097Holy retard. Do you even know the definition of medium is?
>>736491235Not giving a shitposting retard a (You)
>>736491263BW means Brood War, newfriend
>736491393Just do this retard
>>736491306>Muh tranny comeback>Muh seethe projectionNeither of these are true. I'm speaking objective reality. If you're feeling called out, just say so. I won't judge you friend.
>>736491468He won't because it still counts as a reply on mobile apps.t phoneGOD
>>736491583>Phoneposting
>>736491670I'll never stop either. It's objectively better than pcposting and I can do it at work.
>>736489924>Only 4 games here still hold upcorrect, and they are>Super Monkey Ball>Hitman: Blood Money>Demon's Souls>Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
>>736491792>mogged by modeen entry>mogged by modern entry>mogged by modern entry>lol Yea I think not
I dont get the jizzing over blood money Contracts was good too, and the music was better.
>>736489924its missing thief 2 and quake and some other PC fps, also I'd replace half life 2 with 1to be fair if this list it would be mostly PC fps games.>>736491125uncKINO
>>736491892>mogged by modeen entrythat doesn't mean the originals don't hold up>not liking chaos theorylmao
>>736491892>>736491792Both of you are wrong and retarded >>736491902No one is jizzing over it, it's just regarded as the overall best, doesn't mean the others aren't also great games
>>736489924
>>736489924Smb3Contra hard corpsSuper MetroidKatamari damancy This is the objective truth.
>>736491097Explain how metal slug looks bad.
>>736489924Super Metroid, RA2, Morrowind and JA2?
>>736489924Half life 2 is oldhead core? I'm a zoomer and remember playing this game, maybe I am just getting older...
>>736492451Why is it always Super Metroid fanboys that have the worst fucking taste imaginable?Shitty action and platforming, pisseasy enemies and hazards that don't even pose the slightest threat, one-dimensional bosses, and 90% of the game is spent slowly inspecting every title of every room, but it's a masterpiece btw
>>736492451>Smb3SMB2 was always my personal favourite as a kid, it's just so completely different from the others even if it is just a reskin, I prefer SMB3 over SMW though.
>>736489924only something an actual shit-eater would believe
All of them hold up but the best ones are>Red Alert 2>Banjo Kazooie>Cave Story>DKC2>Pikmin 2>Zelda ALTTP>Max Payne>Star Fox 64>Sin & Punishment >RE4>ICO>Demon's Souls>Metal Slug>Chaos Theory>Contra Hard CorpsHaven't played a few of the PC ones though
Half life 2 holds up well
>>736489924blood money, katamari damacy, half life 2, max payne, ninja gaiden black, ico, pikmin 2, resident evil 4, bayonetta, demon's souls and splinter cell are modern games
>>736489924>no god hand on sightthis list belongs in the trash
>>736490443>being so much of a pleb that you can't enjoy a game that isn't all HD photorealistic
>>736492876Also a great game, prefer the gba version for the cheesy voices.
>>736490208>>736490237>>736490282>>736490482>>736491075>>736493004>>736492974You guys have to realize that zoomies and alphies cannot play a game if it isn't holding their hand. These people are not human. They are damaged and no one cares.
>>736493197obsessed millenishart
>>73649303895% of Godhand """fans""" have never beat the game. Bayo, NG, and DMC3 have actual fans
>>736493264Feeling called out zoomietroon?
>>736493372ironic a millenicuck is trying to call any generation dumb when they're the fat manchild cuckholds who got sent to fight 2 jewish wars, i'm better than you in every aspect you dirty faggot muncher and bush sending you to afghanistan to get blown up was a service to this world.
>>736493491Baby faces should never grow facial hair, I don’t get how this isn’t more obvious.
>>736493491Then why did you come crawling to a millennial site, zoomcuck?
>>736493491Wow, what a horrific WebM. I'm convinced "people" like this don't actually exist in society and are just doing this shit for TikTok "clout."Maybe I just live in a normal area.
>>736489924The problem with charts like this is you guys have no idea what games were popular, how popular, and for what reasons. You're just going by random 4chan memes and schizo threads that have been ritualistically posted for decades.
>>736493491You say this while you use a site built by a Millennial. What has Gen Z made again? Oh yea, nothing. Failed generation.
Unironically I feel these are games you should move on from eventually. I really don't like how people just make a handful of super casual games their entire identity and just play them on a loop. Like this isn't the pinnacle of video games, you're not done with video games if you have played these. A lot of /v/'s taste feels like they googled a "top 10 X games" list and just stopped there, but I've never seen one of those lists that wasn't extremely lazily thrown together, and personally I've grown to dislike giving anons big lists of games because they always gravitate to the easiest most boring ones. Like surely people don't just play these and think there's nothing more to life.
>>736494072I'm not really sure what you're getting at? The popularity at release can be pretty easily estimated: sales numbers, firsthand accounts, media from the time period, etc.But this is more about quality, reception, originality, longevity, lasting impact, classic status, etc. of these games and how relevant they are in enthusiast circles. We don't really give a fuck if Sportsball '97 sold 5m copies to casuals who played it for a few hours and forgot about it
>>736494264Maybe you're the one who "makes their identity" around video games, considering there's no other reason to give a shit what random Internet strangers do in their own time.
>>736494586>I'm not really sure what you're getting at?Then say less
>>736494264>those games are le casual and easy>meanwhile xe hasn't cleared a single game on that list on max difficulty or with a single credit>meanwhile the height of xis gaming skill is a 1all shitclear with pisspoor score and multiple deaths of Ketsui after multiple straight years of playing nothing but shmupsThe complete lack of self-awareness is just insane. Kys troon
>>736494675The internet is not an unlimited space and it's not good for anyone when your neighbor is living in squalor. Like if there was a homeless tent city on my front lawn full of heroin addicts that would be a pretty big problem.
>>736493264Say that again without crying.
>>736494715You don't have a point, popularity is easily gauged but that's not what this list is about at all you fucking midwit. If you can't understand the common thread between these games then you need to fuck off back to tiktok or reddit or whatever normie shithole you crawled from. Now go jerk off the IGN Top 100 list you fucking faggot
>>736494264>A lot of /v/'s taste feels like they googled a "top 10 X games" list and just stopped there'Entry level with delusions' describes about 90% of the boards on this site.
>>736494853>a group of people committing multiple crimes on your property is equal to someone on the internet playing a video game you think is decent but not quite replay-worthy more than onceKeep posting, I want to see what nonsense you come up with next
>>736494768True, dudes get worked up about arcade games but it's not so easy to beat Deus Ex deathless in a single sitting either.
>>736494264Why hasn't your mommy cut your internet yet?
>>736494919As someone who has been gaming for almost 30 years, not just played but BEAT over a thousand games, and has more difficult clears than anyone in this thread by a mile, it's true 100%. The best games are the usual suspects; by and large they are the games that sold relatively well and/or have a lasting legacy and are still talked about today. "Hidden gems" are hidden for a reason the vast majority of the time, and even the best ones are moreso>wow, this is actually halfway decent instead of complete irredeemable shitrather than>wow, this is actually one of my all time favoritesPic related are my favorites, but honestly I could sub out a lot of them
>>736494768You don't have any clears and I'm having fun learning new games. Wrapping up this strikers 1945 II run up soon and then I'll play 1999. I want to do some 2-alls eventually, I will likely start with sengoku aces. If all I did was just play those same 1-alls over and over for 20 years that would be pretty boring.>multiple straight years of playing nothing but shmups3 months actually, although I have played them before. Anyone can play em
>>736495010That faggot never fails to entertain me with his autism. I really hope we get an irl pic of him someday.
>>736495248>and has more difficult clears than anyone in this thread by a mile, it's true 100%.Bro youre playing mas effect, no you dont. I don't think you could make it over a toothpick sized hurdle.
>>7364952721all of Strikers (any of them), especially with deaths and low score is a fucking joke. Why are you such a useless retarded shitter?You literally have save states and replays available that give you a MASSIVE advantage to how the games were played back in the day yet you still struggle to do what a salaryman could do his first afternoon ever touching the cabinet
>>736495410The Japanese STG wiki ranks Strikers 1945 II on par with DOJ WL...https://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php?STG%A5%E9%A5%F3%A5%AF%B0%EC%CD%F7
>>736495360Mass Effect 1 is a great RPG, top notch story, atmosphere, worldbuilding, characters. I also beat the trilogy on highest difficulty although that's not exactly that difficult.Where is this idea that if you enjoy story/immersion-focused games that you hate gameplay-focused games? Vast majority of the Japanese superplayers play gacha or JRPG shit all the time
>>736495569Very believable bait anon
>>736495546That's for a 2all you stupid fuck... a 1all is a joke.In 1 year I had cleared several dozen hard shmups without misses including almost a dozen 2alls, and this is the same time I was clearing a bunch of run and guns and console games. And I'm actually fucking employed unlike your nasty NEET ass
>>736493372More dumb. Dumber is not a word.
>>736493264>in a thread with OP seething over millenial medialet he who is without sin cast the first stone
>>736495756>That's for a 2all you stupid fuck...No it isn't. Strikers 1945 II is at 20 and DOJ WL is at 21. I've also cleared games which are higher up on the list. This isn't to say that I agree with these rankings, personally i think psyiko 1-alls are pretty chill, but your assessment of Japanese opinion is objectively wrong when they've already published a concensus.
>>736496003Meanwhile actual decent players have done several 40+ level clears in just a couple months. It really is embarrassing just how bad you are at arcade games, especially when you try to brag about it nonstop. It's just embarrassing and shows a complete lack of any self awareness. Merely playing shmups and being shit at them doesn't give you carte blanche to act like some uber hardcore player better than these peons who actually play games that are fun and engaging... I mean you're laughably bad at every type of game, you have zero room to talk and probably have a learning disability and autism.
>>736496386>uber hardcore player>anyone can beat a shmup, you should play themoh my god
>>736496480I have played shmups...... that's why I said I have tons of clears and why I know that you're fucking horribly unskilled at them.
>>736496480You should actually play the games in OP on max difficulty or challenge runs, they are way more fun and more challenging than shitty rote memorization shmups.
>>736496576Who said I was good? I've already seen this whole shtick a ton of times when I was learning fighting games, dudes that just watch twitch all day attack you and try to demoralize you, but if you keep learning you get to play more stuff and fight better players. Calling someone an idiot for masturbating over the dialogue wheel for 20 years is not elitism and you're not gunna bully me or anyone else into thinking otherwise. That's common sense. /v/ is full of depressed gaymers because this place is loaded with these types of grifters.
>>736496776I don't think this is true. For example, 1cc'ing metal slug on difficulty-8 is pretty boring, but it's actually a pretty fun co-op game. And it's the most popular co-op game on fightcade. But if you were just a larper masturbating over your curated lists you wouldn't know that.
>>736489924every game on here shits on modern games
>>736496984Max difficulty for console/PC games, most arcade games are typically played at defaults (usually level 4). Metal Slug 1CC is not boring at all, it gives you a newfound appreciation for an already really good game.I've no-miss cleared all the mainline Slugs, great games.
>>736497324Jak actually sucks ass tho
>>736497354>Metal Slug 1CC is not boring at all, it gives you a newfound appreciation for an already really good game.I said the difficulty-8 1cc. Which is the max difficulty. And metal slug is a pretty rigid routing heavy game, and not like high execution routing, the kind where you just arbitrarily have to shoot a corner while nothing is on the screen to get an ammo crate. It's not like popping a coinhead in dragon blaze or something where how you approach the stage changes dramatically as a result.
>>736496823No one would care that you're shit at them if you don't constantly try to brag about them or act like they are so much better than all other genres. Vast majority of gamers, even hardcore ones that love deep and challenging gameplay, will not enjoy shmups much more than a passing curiosity unless they have a specific type of autism.I don't even know if you actually enjoy them because you have nothing to show in terms of clears after literal years. The shmup community makes fun of these posers all the time, who pretend to love shmups for clout, but even most of those posers have more impressive clears than you.
>>736497635Your perceive what I do as bragging due to your own insecurities, but really you're just mad something isn't slavishly adhering to the status quo.
>>736497552Then don't play on Level-8? Vast majority of players, even superplayers, use defaults...And Metal Slug 1, and the Slug series in general, is not really that routing heavy, at least not any moreso than your average arcade game. There are a couple sections you really want to route the Slug or a certain number of grenades or a weapon for a boss, but it's generally pretty flexible and actually has a decent amount of randomness, especially for bosses.
/vr/ mods raped you tranny
>>736497745I view it as bragging because I see it constantly, you are in threads shitting them up with your attention-whoring autism and unironically bragging about 1all shitclears.Why would I be insecure about a player who is vastly less skilled than me in a genre I don't even care about and have already moved on from? You are mentally retarded, just stop embarrassing yourself.
>you're a larper!>starting posting on /v/ in 2019>starting playing fighting games in 2020 because of youtubers>started playing shmups last year because of youtubersyour larps are pathetic and obvious
>>736495248Dark Souls 3 is a cringe choice but the rest are respectable
>>736497778>don't play on Level-8I don't, you're the one who suggested to do that. Setting the difficulty to 8 doesn't change much, which is why I said I disagree and it is boring. I'm already quite familiar with snk fans larping and bursting a brain aneurysm over not getting enough attention, they are the most mentally ill non-players by far, which is why you're in here saying you got 1000 1ccs in a week while accusing me of "bragging". This is all just a re-run really. No one is stopping you from making a metal slug thread and posting gameplay, but you're not playing that right now, and you're not gunna play it. I'm posting about the games I'm actually playing, not astroturfing with endless repetitive ritual threads like this one. You're asshurt and saying I'm bragging because you don't want to post gameplay or discuss games, that's too much work. And I'm certain you'll continue to stalk and harass me rather than play a video game. This is all reruns, I've seen it plenty of times.
>>736498238See >>736497354Read you fucking idiot, you are arguing with phantoms in your head, I never said to play Slug 1 or any arcade game on Level-8
>not astroturfing with endless repetitive ritual threads like this one>you don't want to post gameplay or discuss games*spams shit generals and seethes about jannies on /vr/ and resets his router all day to shitpost instead of playing games*
>>736498335Yeah bro mass effect on max difficulty is super challenging
>>736498238Oh you're the same fucking tranny freak sperging out.Why the fuck are you talking about Metal Slug when you can't even clear any of them on ANY difficulty? Just more posturing from a shitter with no clears.
>>736498427ME2 Insanity is more fun than default, brings out what mechanics are there
>being "stalked and harassed" on an anonymous websitemore reasons you don't belong here, attention-whoring newfag tranny
>>736489924Yeah but We Love Katamari is the objectively better game even if it’s not as iconic. All fans agree.
>>736498481Bro there is no saving the gameplay in ANY bioware game. These have always been braindead WEGs and power fantasy, starting with BG1. There's a reason hamburger helper types gravitate to them.
>>736498427Did I say it was ultra challenging you stupid fuck? Those are my favorite games not the hardest games I've ever played.>>736498481And yes, I agree with this anon. The games are not extremely difficult on the hardest difficulties, but at least you have to actually think through your build and combat instead of just mindlessly spraying and praying; they're well-implemented. It's been years since I've played them though, I want to replay them with the LE
>>736498612That doesn't change the fact that Insanity difficulty is more fun than default and brings out what mechanics are there
>>736498621Anon, I can tell you're lying about what you play. It's really obvious. And you'll never post gameplay, you've done this like 50 times already.
>>736498612ME1 plays much more like a tactical RPG, ME2 and ME3 play more like cover shooters with lite RPG elements. The combat is not really the main draw of the games, but is still leaps and bounds better than your average braindead turn-based JRPG crap
>>736498681It's not more fun because I have to suffer through a thoroughly bad game longer. Highlighting the bad gameplay in a gay porno doesn't improve it.
>>736494264This you lil bro? RPGslop and generic /v/ picks?
>being so triggered by the word unc you have to change their memesPretty snowflake behavior not gonna lie.
>>736494903>projecting it's okay milleniturd, even boomers have a disstain for your kind.>>736495783Most of the pic rel games are Zillenial at best.>>736493913I can come to whatever site I please and call the original millenial founders whatever I want and (You) can do nothing but seethe, i'm immune and you won't do shit FAGGOT!>>736494218>another millenial using the "my people made this site you're calling me mean words on!!"yeah and boomers made the internet you are using from whatever thirdie country you inhabit, keep seething you dumb cretin mutt
>>736489924chaos theory halflife 2future perfectdemons souls
>>736498839Take a tide pod and calm down
>>736498816cucklennials are still pissy they were being insulted by boomers and need to project their terrible childhoods onto zoomers, it truly is pathetic that the manchild cattle generation who fell for the "we're saving iraq from weapons of mass destruction" meme have the ordasity to try mocking my generation.
>>736498718Lying about playing what exactly? Yeah bro, I'm definitely lying about playing games like GTAO and Halo 3. Believe me, I could make a performative bullshit list of favorites that aligns with /v/ approved cult classics or whatever, but it's complete posturing just like it is 99/100 times when you see any list like that posted here, it's just fags who want to try to fit in and act like they are some refined counterculture gaymer, and are ashamed and lie about games they actually enjoy for whatever reason
>>736494264so what games do you like
>>736498743>but is still leaps and bounds better than your average braindead turn-based JRPG crapAnon, if you can only compare something to garbage then.... well it's garbage. No one is comparing a NY strip to a big mac.
>>736498960>and are ashamed and lie about games they actually enjoy for whatever reasonwhat games do they actually enjoy according to you?
>>736498954>ordasitySo this is the power of broccoliheads...
>>736498983See >>736498785This is his list
>>736498954>cucklennials are still pissy they were being insulted by boomers and need to project their terrible childhoodsYou have everything backwards m8, baby boomers have been the targets of younger generations for their political views. And millennials had great childhoods, too comfortable, that's the problem.
>>736499078>his only response is pointing out a spelling mistake that i madeit's okay anon, I accept your concession. Pointing out spelling mistakes is the reddit response to being unable to make a proper comeback, so thank you for coming out of the woodworks so we can continue to mock you.
Demons Souls has had a mostly identical (mechanically) remake on a current gen console, feels like a weird inclusion.
>>736499050Look at the game they play or replay the most and there is your answer 9 times out of 10So many of these so called favorites it's like pulling teeth to get them to do anything beyond the absolute bare minimum with them
>>736498983Of the games I have played this year I was extremely impressed with Gunbird 2 and Ketsui, I will definitely be going back to the former to explore the second loop, and at least trying out IKD2007 mode in the latter. I also enjoyed Ninja Saviors, this is a very unique take on a beat em up and I like that it's centered around time for score because most beat em ups have pretty boring scoring. It makes it really fun to replay.
>>736499136Probably true honestly, the same generation calling me broccili head is the same generation who developed cuckhold kink fantasies and became the face of the tendie trope, honestly I have the upmost respect to boomers but how did their descendants turn out like this is fucking beyond me.
>>736498785The little troon nigger has the same type of games as OP except with more gay anime JRPGsSo it's all just shitposting for attention... I see.
>>736499184It's more like every histrionic post you make is littered with crytyping.
>>736489924>video game canon is now oldhead corelol when (((they))) did this to film they started making nothing but remakes, and this industry already has that issueenjoy your entire Call of Duty lineup remakes, i guess
>>736491097Are you the same guy from the other thread where you were sperging about what the golden age was? Cause if so you need to crawl into a grave already boomer.
>>736499446Lol it's the equivalent of "old white men" in literature. Like yeah, let's just not read anyone in the canon.
>>73648992412 year olds shouldn't be on this website.
>>736498960>you don't like games you are actually playing and posting gameplay of, you MUST be playing slop like meDude this is getting absolutely pathetic now
>>736499242Not enough beat'em ups have drastically different characters. AvP is another one.
>>736499641I like AvP a lot but it honestly only has one actually good character lol
>>736498785>b-but dude I moved on from these shit games 20 years ago! back when I 1cced Rayforce in arcades! that's why I posted this 1 year ago
>>736499604That's the funny thing, 95% of the time someone has DMC3 on their 3x3 they've only done a playthrough on normal with shit ranks mashing like a retard. They would never touch that game again with a ten foot pole.But their most played games they continually play and replay? Oh no, those aren't actually their favorites.
>>736498785No way in hell this guy has actually played War in the East for an extended period of time
>>736499785>it honestly only has one actually good character lolIt does but it isn’t either of the predators lol
>>736499827Anon, someone who cleared ketsui really fucking likes that game. That is not easy. Spending 1000 hours in mind-numbing digital heroin doesn't make a game good, it just makes you retarded.
This thread is a good example as to why no one should talk to shmuptroons.
>>736500132All I learned is that the guy shrieking about shmups plays GTAO and halo, thats pretty cringe
>>7364999361all shitclear of Ketsui is like 1-2 days of casually playing, that's not really loving a game, and you are being disingenuous to call it your favorite.And hell, most Ikaruga and RSG and Zero Ranger """fans""" haven't even done that.Shmups are almost purely gameplay genres, if you aren't engaging with the gameplay, what the fuck are you even doing? How the fuck are you going to call it one of your favorites?It's like saying>this is the best I've ever had in my life!!After eating one slice and then letting the rest mold in your fridge before throwing it away.
>>736499935Feminist faggotry.
>>736500257Post your ketsui clear, you already messed up and admitted what you are
>>736498785>A 3x3 thread? I'll post a 10x10 instead to posture my epic taste>Doom, Dark Memesiah, Deus Ex, Ace Combat, God Hand, Demon's Souls, Ape Escape 3, King's Field>Heh... I'm not like the other /v/tards
>>736500223Anyone who even speaks the word “shmup” is contributing to mass psychosis. We should stop speaking of them immediately to not feed into their delusions.
>>736500339We need more shmup threads, this is like the ultimate pleb filter
>>736500272She’s a cyborg
>>736500420>shmups>this is like the ultimate pleb filterI’m sorry anon but no single player game is a pleb filter
>>736500223I'm not the shmuptroon. >Vast majority of gamers, even hardcore ones that love deep and challenging gameplay, will not enjoy shmups much more than a passing curiosity unless they have a specific type of autism.That's what I said about them.
>>736500507This underaged GTA slav is literally dragging his prolapsed anus through the thread because a shmup was mentioned
>>736500595You said ketsui takes 1 day clear and said you have 1 billion 1ccs. Why don't you actually fire up the game and see what the game is actually like before you have a melty and bases all your arguments off of experiencing things second hand through youtube videos
>>736494264>Like surely people don't just play these and think there's nothing more to life.hey, retard! i don't play any amount of videogames and think there's nothing more to life because videogames are but an enjoyable distraction from life! there is so much more to life than games, you getting so hung up on people liking games that aren't shmups just shows how woefully vacant/hollow your own life truly is!
>>736500621>retard thinks anything but competitive multiplayer is a pleb filter lollmao even
>>736500714I don't play shmups anymore, and I never liked CAVE shit. I already have dozens of much harder clears, I don't care and have nothing to prove
>>736500621You are mixing like 5 different posters up, take your meds, that's not me.
Fucking awful thread.
>>736498785He gets very butthurt every time this is posted
>>736500805>there is so much more to life than gamesLike what, anime? I don't see what else there is. Because I went to Disneyland I was not impressed bro.
>>736490443No they didn't. 'Graphically' they aged like milk, but visually they are fine.
>>736490443Retarded nigger
>>736500842You haven't played shit lol
>>736500930I give 2 years before this troon ACKs
>>736500930i already said i can see your life is vacant/hollow. you don't have to reiterate it, lil bro.
>>736501012Either post clears shitter or shut the fuck up
Reminder no shmuptroon can clear Mortal Kombat II even with infinite kredits
>>736501075You're the one saying you have a gorillion clears and attacking people who *have* posted clears. You're clearly a mentally ill liar. If ketsui takes 1 day to clear you would have that clear. I don't think you've ever even played a video game.
>play anything except a shmup>enjoy it more as I play>play a shmup>enjoy non-shmups even moreThey are like the salt of video games
>>736501163My clears are public, so if you know you know. I don't have anything to prove shitter.
>>736501101When I used to wait for matches on fightcade, like my opponent was taking a shit or whatever, I'd just clear the arcade mode slowly with nothing but the HP/C button, so the game did not reset. I've gotten 15 or so fighting game "1ccs" like this. I don't know about mk2, but obviously no one is going to play that
>>736500930Tranime is complete dogshit and a good indicator you have no standards. Like it is actually objectively shit with shit writing and animation.
>>736501202Dadshmups are kinda fun, but yeah, they are a really static, shallow, rigid, repetitive genre. They really don't give you much to work with.
>>736501223I think we're done here. If you're not going to play there is nothing to discuss.
>>736501442Play? I already playED. I have like 75 no-miss clears achieved over a year or so. I have nothing more to prove, and have cleared all the shmups I wanted to
>>736489924I agree. Resident Evil 4 and Demon's Souls do hold up.
Why are zoomoids incapable of producing a sentence in their native tongue?
>>736501571If you're not playing games there is nothing to discuss. Obviously you aren't willing to post gameplay or discuss those games, you've now admitted to never playing ketsui after repeatedly lying, so there's really no point in engaging with you. You're just a troll.
>>736500926Because all it says is that he doesn’t like RPGs from the late 90s onwards. Other than that it’s aggressively /v/-core with a handful of wrinkles.
>>736501649I've played it for like 20 minutes. All CAVEshit plays exactly the same. I'm not claiming to be a fan of CAVEshit, I've made it abundantly clear I don't like their games
>real goodcave story, katamari damacy, pikmin 2, starfox 64, resident evil 4, link to the past>pretty goodsymphony of the night, half life 2, max payne, sin & punishment, fallout 1, super mario bros 3 (I like smw more)>it's oksuper metroid, donkey kong country 2, bayonetta, silent hill, demon's souls>I do not like it Sam I AmBanjo Kazooie>haven't playedthe rest
>>736502021Why are you doubling down, nonplayer. Post gunbird 2 2-all. Or is the next goal post gunna be you don't play any of their newer actually good games either.
>>736501428NTA and I’ve only ever 1cc’d two shmups (Ikargua and Mushihimesama), but that’s the feeling I’ve gotten from them too.Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the experience both times, but I don’t think I could ever have shmups be a huge portion of what I play.
>>736502027>>it's ok>donkey kong country 2>demon's soulsKys
>>736502343I have played every dkc game, including the new ones. I recognize them as well made games that people could like, but I personally don't enjoy playing them. same with demon's souls, played it before dark souls, and I like it more than any of the dark souls games, but it's also not really something I had too much fun playing
>>736502319Post your R-Type II JP 2all nomissPost your Daisenpuu 2all nomissPost your Sunset Riders 2all nomissPost your Sengoku Ace 2all nomissI mean what the fuck are we doing here? Just name any shmup in existence and expect me to have done a 2all clear of it? I've no-miss cleared many 50+ shmups, but there are literally thousands of shmups out there.I've cleared what I care to clear (except a couple that I had planned but got bored and burned out before getting to them)
i hate shmupfaggots so much its unreal
>>736502572You said you only like X or Y but the picture is becoming clear to me now. You keep bringing up these games that are purely hard memo, like you played a bunch of moldy dad shmups, decided you hated them, but for some autistic reason lash out at people for playing the games you didn't play. Like yeah, I'll try to get a sengoku aces 2-all this year when i feel like playing it, but only because the 2nd loop is identical to the first loop and from what I have routed of it, doesn't feel very intimidating even compared to most psyiko 1-alls. I'm pretty confident it won't be too bad. But regardless, the image you're painting here is of someone who is bitter and retarded.
>>736502027>haven't played the restI implore you to play Red Alert 2 and Ninja Gaiden Black
>>736502939Oh, it's just the shmuptroon with no clears again LMAOYeah I'm not wasting time entertaining a retarded shitter who thinks a Armed Police Batrider normal course 1all shitclear or a Ketsui 1all shitclear are impressive. You literally have not even one single clear of note whatsoever despite claiming to be this shmup superfan that only plays them. Shut the fuck up already.
>>736494264What causes this autism? Also lol at his Mewgenics meltie
>>736502939>but only because the 2nd loop is identical to the first loopAnd this is why you're a fucking retard with no clears
>>736503078I have literally never ever said I played batrider on normal. I have cleared it on advanced. Now I record my clears because of people like you. You repeating this just gives me something to search in the archives and see your repeated mental breakdowns. And I'm sure if I went back and cleared advanced again you'd move the goal posts again. But this isn't interesting because you don't play and the games you keep bringing up gives me the impression you are not as good a player as you think you are. I like CAVE and Psyiko more than Raizing now, I am in no rush to go back to their games.
>>736489924>BK>RA2>HL2>Morrowind>RE4>alttp>RE>Deus Ex>Fallout>Super Mario 3All 9-10/10
>>736503369>claim you cleared normal course and posted a clear video>realize that normal course is baby level>lie and say you actually meant advanced course and delete the video>oh no actually I hate Raizing and would never go back to their games >I love Psikyo even though I've never cleared any of their gamesYou are such an embarrassment.
>>736503369Have you ever considered that the only reason you have to do any of that at all is because you avatarfag so blatantly that you're instantly identified in every thread? No one would notice if you just stopped posting Onimai images with 90% of your posts.
>>736503027isn't black an xbox exclusive? and sigma's been ported but isn't as good or something? haven't paid too much attention to it, but I feel like I've heard that before
>>736503605>claim you cleared normal courseWhere dude, the only footage I've ever posted of batrider is me killing the final boss of the advanced course, I even still probably have that webm around somewhere. And you not recognizing this further leads me to believe you don't play the games at all. You need to cite your sources instead of posting pure fantasy. This is so weird and dumb.
>>736503685Black is an xbox exclusive but I think it emulates decently well at this point. As for Sigma its a perfectly good version of Ninja Gaiden. The problem is Sigma 2 vs. the original NG2.
>>736503675No, and this is REAL important for you to understand so you better read this post AT LEAST 20 times. The only difference would be there would be more samefagging and sliding. This is why it makes people mad. People want to spam dumb shit and run dumb narratives. This is the only counter to a retard samefagging 40 times in a thread to push an opinion.
>>736503762Troon with no clears, no replays, no job, and no dick lmao
>>736503892I’ll be honest dude, this reads like cope. The only reason people dogpile your posts as much as they do is because a bunch of people know about the “Onimai poster who likes shmups and hates nearly every RPG made after 2002”. I think you just like the attention
>>736504101Found it
>>736504189>random webm from save state practiceYou really showed us champ
>>736504163I'm gunna be honest, it sounds like you're butthurt that something is taking attention from your 50 ritual rpg threads a day, because God forbid anything else is discussed. Even when I'm not around you guys are shitting up shmup threads with the same modus operandi.
>>736504337I'm not playing raizing games again dude, I'm just not interested right now and no one else is playing them, so believe what you want. CAVE and psyiko is more fun to me.
>>736504367>it sounds like you're butthurt that something is taking attention from your 50 ritual rpg threads a day,That’s impossible because I largely agree with you on RPGs. I think you can be overly harsh towards more modern titles but it’s inarguable that the quality of RPGs dropped off a cliff. >Even when I'm not around you guys are shitting up shmup threads with the same modus operandi.I don’t go into shmup threads. I’m >>736502338 so I’ve played them but I’m not particularly in love with the genre.
>>736504472>dude I just heckin' love Psikyo games>I have so many clears in them like.... ummmm.... uhhh....
>>736504798Well take my word for it, the amount if harassment non-ritual threads suffer is extremely oppressive, even for other genres.
>>736489924You hold up on all 4 too OP
>>736504817Don't know what to tell you dude, I'm having more fun with what I'm playing now. Maybe I will play raizing games later when I don't feel like playing those games, but I am having fun with these and don't feel like I *need* to clear them. I share clears because they are games I like and want people to play them. People say they are too hard to play, but obviously they are not, and I am demonstrating that they are not.
>>736490443Hitman blood money oozes atmosphere. You're retarded
>>736505669>People say they are too hard to play, but obviously they are not, and I am demonstrating that they are not....by having zero clears.... riiiiiight.........
>>736490443The gameplay on most of them has aged like milk too
>>736505905Every single one of those games plays better than anything made in the last 5 years
>>736489924Why half life 2? It's objectively worse and less nostalgic than half life 1
>>736505856But I post my clears all the time
>>736506203We're talking about Psikyo you illiterate tard
>>736506446Yes?
>>736506195I would argue it’s more important historically (not to say that HL1 isn’t important either) which is why it tends to get elevated to this day.
>>736489924>oldhead>vast majority of games are from my childhoodI don't feel so good, bros...
>>736506651Wdym more historically important? What is more historically important in HL2 compared to HL1? Being more known to normgroids isn't historically important to me
>>736491097You're full of shit.
>>736490114The only games that look bad on that entire list are the N64 games, the PS1 games, Morrowind, and Ultima VII, and none of them are ugly enough to be offensive.
>>736491125>unc/v/ is full of baldlennials who are triggered by that word so they're trying to replace it with the softer "oldhead".
>>736489924Yes gaming is a maturing medium and there are now eras of past classics with little relevancy to young people today much like books, movies, and tv shows. Of course some autistic youths will always find enjoyment in obscure old media.
>>736489924I feel like Ultima and RE4 don't belong in the same tier. Generally I think games where you actually want to have read the manual should be on a separate tier list.
dont @ me, but i truly believe that the majority of people ITT got brain damage/traumatic brain injury and some other long-term diseases like chronic depression from years of fucking around and finding out with constant drug usage, being a NEET, and refusing to growi'm sure that these people had some brain power in them, because those games did require something that's not just constant dopamine rush and reflexes... but over time, from refusing to have some sort of progress in their life, they simply stuck with these games, not having it in them to learn modern era mechanics that a lot of games offer, mostly from indieswe should pity these fools, for they are just fools for ruining their lives
>>736508363I've never used drugs and play newer games when they're fine. You're not going to convince me a game I enjoy is bad because it's old.
>>736508504its mostly addressing the booms who refuse to adapt to modern gaming bc it requires more "novelty thinking", which they obviously lack nowadays
>>736490443art direction is timeless and matters more than graphics
>>736489924you guys got tired of "uncslop" after a couple of weeks?
>>736489924>Hitman>VtMB>re4That's three games, coz.
>>736508764What the fuck are you talking about?
>>736509862Atrophied their brains from consuming the same slop on loop, to the point not needing to use their BRAINS any longer...Novelty seeking new knowledge is a lost art to these geriatric retards who overdosed themselves with drugs/alcohol and cynicism...Get it?!
>>736510680That's retarded. Stop posting.
>>736510834Struck a nerve, alcoholic uncfag? I'm glad :)
>>736494264Move on to WHAT? Most of the classic games came out in a era where there would easily be 15-20 exceptional games in a year. Now, development cycles are so long and gaming trends are so harmful that you're lucky if you get a single exceptional game. Imagine thinking in the mid-2000s that the GOTY contenders in 20 years would be filled with bottom of the barrel dogshit like this.
>>736511517>modern games are le bad!!!Fuck off retard, both old and modern games are great
I love JA2 so fucking much bros
>>736489924Im proud of you boys, keep fighting this war against the radical boomers who refuse to acknowledge that majority of their favorites are absolute outdated equally braindead, DOGSHIT
>>736501372Anime website lil bro
>>736501372you are free to leave any time
>>736489924>No OoT>No AoE 2>No Rome Total War>Gen 7 shit like Bayonetta and DeS
>>736514239>gen 7 le badAnd ALTTP is far better you OoTbabby
>>736512860Behead boomers
>>736514314>gen 7 le badIt's not old core though, retard.
>>736489924ninja gaiden blackresiden evilresiden evil 4tomb raiderthankmelater bros keep winning.
>>736512448No way you actually like some of those games
>>736514396I mean it IS really good. just a shame about all the cancer and filling your lungs with rock spears
>>736489924Seeing Bayonetta, a 2010 game being listed as a boomer game is wild.
>>736507265The development of the Source engine and its physics, as well as coinciding with the rollout of Steam is a lot more important to the history and future of video games than Half-Life adding cinematic flair to shooters. Half Life changed a genre while Half Life 2 changed the industry. That being said the things that made Half Life 2 so important aren’t nearly as unique or memorable these days while Half Life’s design holds up to modern scrutiny a lot better.
>>736512448Ask yourself this: would you rather have that list of games or this list?
>>736515405The 7th gen is officially retro
>>736489924I still think Chaos Theory is the best stealth game ever made and no game so far even came closeI say this as an MGS fanboy too
>>736516916I’d make a personal argument for Thief 2 but CT is hard to beat Metal Gear’s appeal really has never been in its raw stealth mechanics imo.
>>736517048It's the true stealth game, insane how every game after it missed the mark and those who try to copy it somehow fail. How did they make CT just that good?
>>736489924Most of these are dogshit or literal who shovelware. Only timeless classic here is Super Monkey Ball.
>>736512448>modern games are great>shits out a collage of remaster / forced sequel slopJesus christ get some standards zoombie.
>>73651672195% of this is actual slop and the other 5% isn't like the best games ever. It's weird that you even think this shit is impressive
>>736517903I’m sorry you have dogshit taste
>>736517973Fucking theme hospital bro? What kind of boring geriatric retard are you? Why not put solitaire on there while you're at it.
>>736489924>oldheadno one worth listening to talks like this
>>736518065>hating on Theme HospitalYou look like broccoli. Get a haircut
>>736506029VTMB, Morrowind and Fallout play like ass desu
I hate this board. Why do I still come here?
>>736518242You're like the video game equivalent of some old guy surviving off apple sauce because he's afraid to get dentures
>>736518296And they still play better than any modern streamlined slop game
Im played morrowind and VTMB for the first time recently and liked both a lot.
>>736518364That's because they compensate in other ways despite playing like ass.
>>736518296Nah you are just too retarded to cheese them.
>>736518341>old bad because…it just is okay!Theme Hospital is a very chill, charming management game. I didn’t even realize it was possible to hate it but I guess I underestimated the troglodytic mentality of broccoli hairs
>>736518538Put my skills into learning how to take a screenshot.
>>736490443>I would know, I've watched a [Full Playthrough No Commentary] YouTube video on the matter.>Playing video games?It's gonna be funny when RE2make is gonna be considered dated and zoomers are gonna have to try explaining why it's good (it isn't)
>>736518560>very chillfr it's just like Netflix bruh
>>736518680I accept your concession
>>736518832Nah, this is important man. Whenever I see people blindly praise old shit it's like>oh its really braindead so it goodLike look at this post>>736518538I know exactly what's going on dude
>>736518364Because they both have a lot more going for them than some bad combat>>736518412As I’ve said they have bad combat but I don’t think they play “like ass” otherwise. Like interacting with the games and their menus and talking to NPCs and everything else that’s gameplay outside of combat plays fine. When I think of a game that plays like ass I think of a game that’s genuinely annoying to operate, like System Shock with no mouse look
>>736489924>Old head core>No doom quake SimCity etc>Pikmin., cave story and time splitters? Fucking Bayonetta?Just a random list of games. Casual zoomer retardsNo fucking civilization 3 or might and magic zzzzzz
>>73648992480% of that list is pure slop
Find it funny how if this was posted on /vr/ they'd actually be game discussion instead of faggots going on about graphicshey no shit a 20+ year old game is going to look old. With the exception of 4x2 i've played every one of these games.
>>736518909I think you’re conflating your dislike of casual games with a dislike of old games. No one is telling you that Theme Hospital or whatever is trying to engage every part of your brain simultaneously. That doesn’t mean it’s bad though.
>>736519097>console classics instead of shitty slavcore gamesGood
>>736519235>Find it funny how if this was posted on /vr/ they'd actually be game discussionThere is zero game discussion on /vr/, it's just clueless old collectors making shit up so they can feel special about an atari cartridge they bought for $300 and played for 15 minutes. Retro is infamous for people who don't play or are retarded now, unfortunately.
>>736516721That list is from a 3x longer time period and is significantly worse.Retard
>>736519268If i look at a massive block of games, and every single one is braindead schlock, and the person posting it is arguing its the "good old days" we have a big problem and I'm tired of hearing it.
>>736519302Nothing I mentioned has anything to do with slavs Castlevania iii rofl...trash.
>>736519302>Doom>Quake>SimCity>slavcoreI’m glad consoletard luddites have been thoroughly raped by their overlords, you get what you deserve
>>736519235Bruh /vr/ is 2/3 Pokémon and fighting game PLOTS
>>736489924Has anyone here played all of these? Do some people just play everything?
>>736519387It’s not >>736519403New games are at least just as braindead and usually moreso
>>736519409>hating on CV3 Holy fucking turd world brown
>>736519482I’ve played most of them. The only ones I haven’t are Castlevania 3, Sin and Punishment, and Ultima 7
>>736519425>two shitty boring FPS games and a barebones city builderHoly frick I love pc gayming!!!Halo, Max Payne, and OpenRCT deep dick your asshole faggot
>>736519506>New games are at least just as braindead and usually moresoNo it's still about the same but I find there's more games for enthusiasts now. It's not a matter of old and new, anyone who subscribes to the dichotomy is playing absolute rock bottom garbage. Like games that should be 1% of what you play are 100% of what you play.
Ignore the shitposting. Zoomies and gen alphas are unironically getting into emulation and retro stuff because of how bad modern n*ntendo, microshit and sony are.
>>736519235/vr/ is worse than /v/ now somehow, you're not even allowed to talk about video games there.
>>736519097>>736519409>>736519425It's always funny when PC fags try to larp as le uber hardcore gaymer when literally every single game they play for decades now has literal built-in save states that you can just spam endlessly to completely trivialize all challenge, and the games are even designed around this lazy shit, so they just throw cheap, poorly telegraphed shit at you because "oh well, just spam quick save".They will never understand the satisfaction of overcoming and mastering an actual well-designed and curated challenge.
>>736489924These graphics stop meaning everything when you have a 20+ year range for the games.NES AND PS3 games? Who are you fucking kidding those are entirely different generations of humans
>>736519676>somehowEveryone with a brain ejected the instant they greenlit gen 6 zoomershit.
>>736519836Graphics never mattered no matter the year range. If the game is good, graphics being a detriment is a sign of low IQ
>>736490114Bayonetta looks like shit
>>736519707slow day on /vr/?
>>7365199617th gen is the last gen that feels truly retro. 8th is soulless modern slopt. '95 boomerzoomer
>>736520061>PS3>retroovens, nowt. 95 boomerboomer
>>736519993It's always been about artstyle/graphical cohesion and always will be
>>736520116Gen A won't be able to play 7th gen games without gagging
>>736519641>but I find there's more games for enthusiasts nowThere are but I find a lot of them really struggle with not being “old thing in new packaging”. And only for a handful of genres. If you like simulators you have been throughly fucked in the ass.>Like games that should be 1% of what you play are 100% of what you play.Ten years ago I would have agreed with you but it’s gotten so bad now that if anyone is willing to play something that isn’t part of the live service slop trough I take that as a win.
>>736491130>post a bunch of random games from pre-2010s and call it oldhead/unc/whatever-coreHas been a meme for a while, and I really mean that "random" part so there's likely a version of OP's pic with AoE2/Starcraft on it.
>>736520116PS3 was so fucking peak, sorry your life sucked bro
>>736519707No such thing exists on consoles as all console games are kiddieslop starting with the SNES
>>736518412Yea that's true, the RPG mechanics and world are great but the combat is mostly bullshit to be exploited through >>736518538That is kind of the definition of playing like ass.
>>736519961Gen 6 isn't even the problem. It's all extremely insular retards who have unhealthy attachments to dogshit because their entire life savings is invested into sega consoles. Like if zoomers ever find out taito is the cool version of sega /vr/ is gunna be like thishttps://youtu.be/k36sIRRdFSULike they absolutely fly off the fucking handle if you suggest anything that isn't some weird astroturfed culture enforced by the mod, their interest in video games is entirely secondary and driven by retro community fomo
>>736520184I never played AoE2/SC so didn't include them. Why is it such a big deal wiyh these two particular games, especially when the list already has an RTS? I did play SWGB though, which is basically an AoE2 reskin, and that was fun, but that was ages ago
>>736519707If anything why the fuck are they PCfagging over Doom, the game that's been ported to so many systems that it's a meme?Or SimCity, which had a well-known SNES port?
>>736520209>NES games, now those were hardcore!!! XDPost clears poser faggot
>>736520339Sorry you grew up playing JRPGs and that caused you to troon out
i was out of high school when half of these released
>>736520290the big deal is that those games are nowhere near dead
>>736520290>Why is it such a big deal wiyh these two particular games, especially when the list already has an RTSWhen the games are so good they get played more than their sequels in 2026 you must include them in any list that is remotely serious.
>>736520297>Playing doom on a console is somehow anything to do with the decades long doom community on PC which was also active during its lifetime with healthy internet play etcYeah clearly the snes version of SimCity is the same too. You've never used a computer, have you?
>>736489924Didn't play, good, great, great, great, didn't playGreat (but Kero Blaster is better), great, didn't play, didn't play, good, greatdidn't play, didn't play, didn't play, great, great, excellentgreat, great, great, great, didn't play, gooddidn't play, meh, great, didn't play, didn't play, didn't playGood, good, great, good, great, didn't play
>>736520519which makes them not unc core, aoe2 is a totally different game these days thats run like any modern live service type game.
>>736489924>hitman blood money>splinter cell chaos theoryYeah I'll keep living in the "past" because the present industry can get fucked if it wants to tell me that it surpassed these two games.
>>736520264>bullshit to be exploited throughThey were designed that way by the creators and they wanted it. They literally created manuals for that. It's not my fault you are a retarded zoom who never seen a game manual before. For example in morrowind it tells you that once enemies reach fatigue of 0 they get knocked out so they literally tell you that hand to hand is OP. Also you can observe it yourself go to the naked nord north of Balmora and see that he will fuck you up with his fists. Same for fallout sabe scumming was clearly intended not because of laziness
>>736520290A couple of reasons:>you have a lot of shooters, side scrollers, and RPGs but only two strategy games >one of those strategy games is Pikmin 2 and no one gives a fuck about Pikmin >when it comes to RTS discussion Red Alert 2 *might* be 5th in terms of how often it’s brought up. StarCraft, AoE2, WarCraft 3, and possibly Homeworld are brought up way more often>this is of course ignoring all the non-RTS strategy games that are missing too. Civ3/Civ4, Xcom, Total War Rome/Medieval 2, etc…
>>736520724If it's old head core discussion today is not countedRed alert 2 would have been on there yeah.
>>736512448There are some good games on that list, but the amount of mediocre dogshit you had to put on this to pad it out is astounding. Firewatch? Enter the Gungeon? Tyranny? Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? Super Mario Bros Wonder? Call of Duty Modern Warfare? At least half of this picture could have been cut and it would have helped your argument. But even if you did, it would pale in comparison to a list of the best games of any other decade long time slice from 1990 to 2010. Hell, >>736516721 mogged you and it wasn't even a comprehensive list of games, it was just games that came out on PC.
>>736489924Bayonetta and Baldurs Gate 2 are the ones that aged the worst.Baldur's Gate 2 in particular aged like fucking milk, it used to be a 8/10 in my book but now after revisiting it last year, its a 4/10 game at best.Last few years were brutal for me when i realized that Bioware games aged so poorly, I played then when i was in school and i remember i enjoyed playing them, but going back when you are older, man they fucking suck.They can't write nor they can design gameplay or make a world worth exploring and their cinematics aged horribly.
>>736520610>didn’t play any of the PC games If you can play Robo-Ky you have enough frontal lobe development to play them
>>736520689>They were designed that way by the creators and they wanted itNo it wasn't dude, none of the systems in morrowind are connected or work together, or mesh with any of the world design. They just shoved a bunch of broken shit in there. And it would be worse if it was intentional.
>>736520452NES had plenty of JRPGs as well..? I'm not really a jarpig fan out of a few series
>>736520724Pikmin 2, JA2, Red Alert 2, Ultima, BG2That's 5 strategy games
>>736489924The only game on that list I do not give a shit about which I've given a proper chance is Morrowind. I just don't like how Bethesda design their games, there's all this cool lore but it's presented through the medium of the most lifeless characters and quests imaginable.
>>736520867>dudeClearly a zoom as expected.Yes it was intended for roleplay. Why you think they give you so many classes to chose from? They literally have the monk class. Who comes up with this shit unless it was for roleplay and intended. They let you test out and see for yourself. If you chose shit skills and class and don't play the intended way you get punished. You can also have custom class too.
>>736520804>Firewatch? Enter the Gungeon? Tyranny? Kingdom Come Deliverance 2? Super Mario Bros Wonder? Call of Duty Modern Warfare?All great games. Have you played any of them lol
>>736521130You completely ignored everything I typed. Go easy on the Kool aid pal
>>736521280No I didn't you retard. You did.You said this>none of the systems in morrowind are connected or work together, or mesh with any of the world design. They just shoved a bunch of broken shit in there.And I gave you a very detailed answer on why they are connected and work togheter. They literally have custom class and the classes they give you are connected. You are a retarded zoom who never finished morrowind and got mad you can't kill a rat because you are sub 80 IQ. Go play skyrim retard
>>736521464How about I don't play any bethesda slop
>>736520821what a gay opinion
>>736489924all these games are still fun to play except the og fallout, but that game was always more about the vibes. as an actual rpg 2 is way better.
>>736521063Ultima 7 is explicitly the least strategic Ultima game. You have almost no control over your party in it. BG2 gives you full party control but its not a strategy game either and if you tried to convince people it was they'd laugh at you. JA2 is a strategy game even though I consider it more of an RPG, you're right about that.
>>736521547Then why do you talk about something you don’t even play or know anything about, or how it works, and still say you do, you fucking retard
>>736521547>How about I don't play any bethesda slopAll this says is that he's right and you don't actually understand how Morrowind's systems are connected and are just regurgitating things you've heard other people say.
>>736521684I played it and I know exactly how it works. It's just a ton of random poorly thought out broken systems. Like 75% of the systems in the game are utterly useless and if your idea of a good game is being invincible and flying around collecting badly written lore that says everything about you that needs to be said
poor zoomies missed out on the golden age
>>736521274NTA but I've played>Firewatchbad>Tyrannymediocre (mainly way too short) >SMBW actual dogshit>MW2019GoodI haven't played KCD2 yet but I loved the first one.
>>736521808Yeah you haven't played it
>>736489924>>736491075I'm not old and I like most of these games, with only 2-3 exceptions.
>>736521832>poor zoomies missed out on the golden ageOnly if you choose to be. I'm 28 and I've spent a decent little chunk of my 20s playing games I missed out on, both console and PC. I actually just finished Wing Commander 1. I know people though who refuse to play anything made before 2012 and I just don't get it. There are fewer barriers to entry than ever before and many just refuse to take advantage of it.
>>736521808>doesn't explain anything on why 75% of the systems in the game are utterly useless >good game is being invincible and flying around collecting badly written lore that says everything about you that needs to be said>still doesn't explain how it works and why it thinks it is that way>still doesn't make a difference between an exploit an cheese
>>736522041You won't like them when you become old
>>736522063>sure Morrowind lacks good combat, exploration, build variety, interesting characters, encounter design, enemy design, boss design, player choice and branching paths, interactivity, reactivity, unique and memorable open-ended quests, good loot progression, challenge, balance, endgame, replayability, or sense of adventure>but dood you can like exploit this barely tested mechanic to kill every single NPC in the entire game while nothing in the world and no NPC in the game reacts to you in any way!!Morrowind drones barely even qualify as human
>>736523479>sure Morrowind lacks good combat, exploration, build variety, interesting characters, encounter design, enemy design, boss design, player choice and branching paths, interactivity, reactivity, unique and memorable open-ended quests, good loot progression, challenge, balance, endgame, replayability, or sense of adventure>but dood you can like exploit this barely tested mechanic to kill every single NPC in the entire game while nothing in the world and no NPC in the game reacts to you in any way!!>still doesn't explain why he experienced this in his playthrough >still doesn't experience what makes them that why>still doesn't explain why and where ans when he came uo with that conclusion in his playthrough>still doesn't explain how it should work properlyAs a question since you are a sub 60 IQ zoom is GTA bad too (game that sub 60 IQ zoom play)? Since same arguments >lacks good combat, exploration, build variety, interesting characters, encounter design, enemy design, boss design, player choice and branching paths, interactivity, reactivity, unique and memorable open-ended quests, good loot progression, challenge, balance, endgame, replayability, or sense of adventure can be said about it What game made the things you said were bad in morrowind, good?
>>736489924ultima and bayonetta in the same image is absolutely insane.
>>736523753When did I ever say Morrowind was bad you fucking retard?
>>736522053Unfortunately friend, playing old games isn't the same as being part of the era. Good choice though. Please play "secret weapons over Normandy" I liked the PS2 version.
>>736524147Here >>736520867 >broken shitAre you this retarded you forget what you said less than 2 hours ago. No wonder you can't play or finish morrowind it requires memory and anything above 60 IQ. Which you clearly don't have
>>736524147Also you didn't answer anything I said. Your arguments are pure reddit. Get mad about it but don't give any explanation. You literally just throw up random shit without any meaning or essence to it. You literally gave the most basic and most retarded answer ever but still didn't answer anything just kys
>>736524301I beat Morrowind without a guide (the Xbox version that doesn't even have a functioning journal system no less). 95% of Morrowind """fans""" haven't even beat the damn game to know what a miserable slog the latter half is, especially if you don't spec into magic/alchemy. They just dick around for a few hours before dropping it.And I never said I hated it or it was bad. I think it's a good game that does a few things very well, and many things very poorly. At least it's unique with little else out there like it, that's the best compliment I can give it.Yes, the politics/lore/worldbuilding are done well.Yes, the game allows you to break almost all of its systems in ways that can be amusing at first.No, the game does not have good combat, exploration, build variety, encounter design, progression, loot system, enemy design, boss design, challenge, endgame, balance, replayability, sense of adventure, interesting characters, player choice and branching paths, interactivity, reactivity, or unique and memorable open-ended quests.It is severely lacking in almost all of the aspects that make a truly great RPG for me.
>>736524207>Unfortunately friend, playing old games isn't the same as being part of the eraAin’t that the truth. Luckily I’m a /his/autist at heart and can appreciate the artifacts of history for what they are.>Please play "secret weapons over Normandy" I liked the PS2 version.That’s actually a game I did manage to play as a kid. Pretty solid arcade flight game even if I think Crimson Skies High Road to Revenge was better.
>>736489924>still hold upAs though everyone was delusional when these were new?
>>736524574I already raped and gaped every Morrowind fag in existence in this thread here:https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12409254/I'm not retreading what I already said.
>>736524301That post was not me retard, but I do agree with its general sentiment.
Stealth/Stealth-Action genre is barely an alive genre anymore so it can't ever fall into a blind nostalgia category.I prefer the older Hitmans compared to the new on the other hand.Most of the games in this genre are the only things you really can't claim ever got surpassed until developers start actually making the games again. The Styx games are decent but they're not the same caliber of heavy hitters. MGSV Phanom Pain being the last game since Styx was too unfocused to have matched even SC Blacklist. And whats released since MGSV? only by modding Ghost Recon Breakpoint with Spartan Mod and Fear the Radio will you get something slightly comparable and thats basically just fixing things about the AI or making them OP in some regard with their sightlines. But it suffers exactly the same because it's too unfocused to be a well designed stealth game. Anyone honest knows the Assassins Creed series was never a good series for this at all.Some people who will claim Dishonored is supposed to be the non aged version of games like Thief miss the point of how much essential stealth mechanics were gutted in that game to do with both the light detection model and ALSO sound detection models. Primarily the sound propagation stuff is missing which is crucial for good stealth gameplay.It also borrowed the same crappy mechanics from Arkham Asylum/Arkham City/Origins/Knight etc. of Batman vision which is an annoying thing that trivializes stealth gameplay by making all the enemies viewable through walls with silhouette outlines and thus discourages situation awareness. Not to mention having blink trivializing any sneaking challenges it could have presented.
>>736524709>"""fans"""How mindbroken can someone be to use this many quotation marks for just one word. You clearly are mad and you lie. You never finished shit. Kys. Still didn't answer anything I said>great RPGLike I said again I literally asked you what game does everything good that morrowind does bad. Still nothing. Again pure reddit. And again you never said where when and why you think it is that way as you describe that you saw in your playthrough. Just nothing andnpure reddit faggotry
>>736524776Lmao you know the amount of cope and rage someone has that they have to talk about a past thread I was never in
>>736523845Should have been Ultima 4 just to maximize how archaic it is
>>736489924starfox 64dkc2super metroidSOTNnow what do I win?
>>736489924Okay anons show how many you've beaten and post your age30
>>736524951>Some people who will claim Dishonored is supposed to be the non aged version of games like Thief miss the point of how much essential stealth mechanics were gutted in that game to do with both the light detection model and ALSO sound detection models. Primarily the sound propagation stuff is missing which is crucial for good stealth gameplay.This. It drives me nuts when people call it a Thief spiritual successor when it has a lot more in common with Deus Ex
>>736525006Because they are posers, not fans. Look how unbelievable it is for you that someone actually fucking finished Morrowind lmao. I'm not going to prove anything to you, and I really don't care if you believe me. Very few if any games are going to do EVERYTHING well, it's just that Morrowind does shockingly little well and a whole lot poorly. Obviously many games/genres aren't even necessarily trying to do certain things well, and maybe that's a flaw of the genre as a whole, you tell me. For example, turn-based JRPGs almost universally have trash combat, encounter design, quest design, enemy/boss design, progression, exploration, balance, interactivity/reactivity, and loot progression. They are carried purely by "vibes": art/music and production values.As for games that excel in almost all of those categories: DOS2, Demon's Souls, New Vegas are the best examples, and they all shitstomp Morrowind into a fine paste.
>>736525341Literally all of it and I'm 36
>>73652534190sBeat 24 (2 more where I beat the original but not the sequel listed)
>>736525495>DOS22017>Demon's Souls2009>New Vegas2010>Morrowind2002How easy it is to tell a zoomWhen you hairline doesn't look like broccoli you can talk to me againNo mention of Fallout 1 or 2 but New Vegas was so easy to tell you are sub 60 IQ
>>736525771>game bad because it released after arbitrary date>game good because it released before arbitrary date>THIS PICTURE OF A MAN WITH BROCCOLI FOR HAIR IS LITERALLY YOU!!Yeah, I'm definitely the low IQ one here
>>736525885You lost tranny
>>736525341I’ve beaten all of them except>Banjo Kazooie I don’t like Rareware outside of Perfect Dark>Sin and PunishmentNever played>Ultima VIIHaven’t played but I have beaten Ultima IV28
>>736490443tasteless faggot who can't apreciate art style, faggots like you are the reason why ubisoft stopped doing games like rayman to do only asscreed games
>>736493197t. latchkey kid
>>736524751Thank God. After almost 20 years of asking, someone has played it. Thank God for you anon. Please play E.V.O. and Ecco, then. Fairy tale adventure is a cool game that's before even my time (PC)
>>73652534129Haven't played red alert, JA2, splinter cell, max payne or pikmin.My favs on this list are monkey ball, dkc2 and cave story
>>736526745>Thank God. After almost 20 years of asking, someone has played it. Thank God for you anon.I could never forget Trevor getting shot down over Midway only to somehow turn up in Europe. Even kid me was baffled by that one.>Please play E.V.O. and Ecco, then. Fairy tale adventure is a cool game that's before even my time (PC)EVO at least is sitting safely in an archive on my PC. I went a little ham on getting everything I wanted off of Myrient before it died
>>736491097>Turn your screen off then and try to interact with it. Bait or genuine retardation? Are books also a visual medium because you can't close your eyes and still read a book? Books are an imaginative medium, movies are visual, and video games are interactive.
>>736520821Correct but I still like Mass Effect even with its flaws.
>>736525341The most embarrassing to admit is Super Metroid and SOTN is still something i never got around to, although i probably wont have any desire to finish the older Castlevanias. I did start playing Super Metroid at one point but i got distracted and moved onto something else. Not that it was even because i was bored but its easy to miss your obligations because something else popped up. Otherwise I've played most of them. A lot of hardcore arcade games like Contra are just not for me. Ive even played all of the Metroid Primes except for the new one.VTMB tickHalf-Life 2 tickBanjo Kazooie tickKatamari Damacy tickHitman Blood Money three ticksMorrowind TickIco tickPikmin never got passed first game. Distracted.Max Payne tickNinja Gaiden Black: memory is fuzzy. Need to replayResident Evil 4 tickDemon'sd Souls tickThe Legend of Zelda a Link to the Past tickBladurs Gate 2. Need to replay fuzzy memoryFallout tickSilent Hill tick but my playthrough came to late for it to be scaryResident Evil tickDeus Ex Three TicksSplinter Cell Chaos Theory three ticksSuper Mario Bros. Tick not since childhoodTomb Raider tickJagged Alliance 2: fuzzy memory need to replayTimesplitters Future Perfect tickUltima the Black Gate: I've only played the Underworld games
>>736528625DK countries are fuzzy memory games too. But i have played them and it's apart of childhood nostalgia.
>>736489924Because Ur a fag OP
>>736528712And the only garbage game inthis list is NWN2 because fuck dice rolling, MW and NWN1 combat is better
>>736489924throw some mega man on there, the sims, persona and smt, some rts, la mulanathis is my kino chart
>>736495248>beaten over a thousand games>cuphead over megaman, gunstar or alien soldierFRAUD DETECTED
>>736528712>no Commandos 2Shamefur disrpreyYou could have removed The Longest Journey. Look at how Ragnar Tørnquist turned out today. He made Dustborn.
>>736528857Yes, Cuphead blows them out of the fucking water. Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier are trash. Mega Man 2-4, Zero 1, and X are solid, but definitely not on the tier of Cuphead.Cuphead is just miles ahead in terms of artstyle, soundtrack, animation, boss design, boss complexity boss patterns, challenge and replayability, and different weapons and loadouts. It's one of the best examples of a great indie game, just two brothers that want to make a kickass videogame and pour their blood, sweat, and tears into it for years making sure everything is perfect down to the tiniest detail, and they don't compromise in the slightest in making it ball bustingly difficulty, but still very fair.I've beat Cuphead on Expert with all S-ranks (very challenging and very fun), Mega Man 1-6, Zero 1+2, and X1-3 all on original hardware with no guides, beat Gunstar Heroes on Expert (boring as fuck game, can be mindless fun on lower difficulties, but Expert is straight trash), and dropped Alien Soldier because its controls are an affront against humanity.I've also no-miss cleared Dynamite Headdy which was okay, but the only Treasure game I've ever really liked was Sin & Punishment which I no-miss cleared on Normal (wasn't a fan of the changes in Hard mode)
>>736528625Beat you stupid fuck not played. If you think you maybe might have beat it, you most definitely did not.
>>736529330sybau i care not for your larp
>>736529515>sybauUnderage zoomer mutt. Little fucking retro exoticism poser fag.
>>736529619im sorry poser-kun but no one on the planet has ever beaten the seven force on expert and said afterwards "that was trash", it's just not possible, and you merely reveal your own ignorance
>>736519672this is true i knew a few zoomies that loves talking about themthis whole perception of them not liking them or cringe at old graphics is a shitty psyop from faggots that has no friends and dont go outside
>>736528625Super Metroid is really good definitely try it again sometime, lots of great romhacks too
>>736519672zoomers all got hand me down n64s, ps1s, and snes'. they were also around for the ps2 and gc era, those are the consoles that were active when zoomers were kids. i feel like millenials are the actual biggest gamer frauds, there are a lot more zoomers who grew up with retro games than millennials because the popularity of gaming shot up during the zoomer generation
>>736529738Seven Forces on Expert is a massive fucking bullet sponge and one of the shittiest bossfights in an already shitty game.You are a fucking retard with no clears.
>>736529389>If you think you maybe might have beat itPlenty of games are like that for me. If i played something at the time my memory is just not as good as it once was in how i did beat it. I have to take refresher courses on games sometimes.Very selective memory.
>>736529305that list is older than all newfags in this thread.
>>736528768Yeah but NWN2 has Mask of the Betrayer
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>>736530063Save state zoomer with zero clearsHere's how you enjoy your retro games
>>736529998Yeah but why no Commandos? seems like heresy to me.This board has a lot of old inaccurate rankings in my opinion.
Battlezone alone makes that list good.
>>736529998>>736530171And no inclusion of even Desperados 1 might be a little unforgivable too. But at the very least Commandos 2 should be recognized.
>>736530168who is the bigger fraud here, me who you know nothing about, or you, who has already admitted to being filtered?i rest my case
>>736489924>Banjo Kazooie>Hitman>RE1>Splinter Cell>Tomb Raider>Time Splitterswere never good>Super Metroid>VtMB>Starfox 64>RE4>Metal Slug>LttP>Deus Ex>Falloutstill excellent
>>736527180KoTOR, DAO, and ME1 are peak Bioware. I really enjoyed ME2 at the time, but the older I get the lower my opinion of it.
>>736533552Now hold on a second, Banjo Kazooie is a fucking banger
>>736534125Nah it was like 15fps and jank 1st gen 3D platformer controls. Maybe it's less shit in the later ports. I never played any of those.
>>736533552The only bad game there is Banjo
