playable with mouse and keyboard?
>>736491193I’m sure you’re gonna get someone who tells you it’s the optimal way to play but this is very much a controller kind of game. 4 shoulders 4 guns, it’s very intuitive. Also have fun it’s a great game
>>736491193yeah you can play souls games with kbm
>>736491193It's perfectly playable with m+kb.
>>736491193Not for me. That other guy is right though, it's optimal with MnK, because you can do some really fucky things with the overboost in this game and very fast perspective shifts.
>>736491193Very much. The only part I haven't figured out properly wtih KBM is drifting. It's easier to remap CTRL+R to an extra mouse button if you have them. I tried playing this shit with a controller but doing things without a mouse is just torture.
>>736491193>playing action games outside of mmos with a keyboard and mousethe same kind of "person" who listens to their female family members having sex on the other side of door
>>736491854>listens to their female family members having sex on the other side of doorlol that came out of nowhere, someone's projecting
>>736491854If you play anything besides flying and driving games with a cucktroller you're a double-digit shitskin retard
>>736491193Yes, it's the optimal way to play. Controller is unplayable
>>736491193did they remove denuvo yet?
>$60come on fromsoft give me a fucking break
>>736492901I don't think it ever had Denuvo but EAC is still in. You can delete it and play the game in offline mode without any problems though, had to do it myself because EAC was making the game run like absolute shit
>>736492660if you play any VIDEO GAME with a cuckboard and rat you're a white incel dicklet who's only touched their mother's pussy during childbirth
>>736491193I wanted to buy this game day one, but denuvo pisses me off. I'm going to be 90 years old when they bring this game price down to $30
>>736493001yeah it had denuvo when it launched. that's why I didn't buy it. I just looked it's removed
>Three years since release this August>No expansionI will mail a turd to FromSoft.
>>736493131It never had Denuvo. It had Arxan and EAC.
>>736491193Just get a 40 buck controller?
>>736493131I'm wrong it didn't have denuvo. Just a different anti cheat
>>736493131>>736493096>zoomers can't tell apart DRM from anti cheat lmao
>>736493247is that shit Kernal level?
>>736493306I'm actually 40. I see drm and I get mad
>>736493306zoomers don't give a shit what they infect their PCs with
>>736491193The control scheme is basically a third-person shooter, so yeah it works perfectly fine with M+KB.
I actually wanted to play this since release, but drm scares me. I just want a bad ass Gundam game
>>736491193It works fine. You just have to recognize they build it around using a lock-on because they didn't want to make people aim guns on a controller.
>>736491854>t newb
do you guys think this game will go in sale anytime soon? neither do I....I still can't believe sekiro hasn't had a $10 one day flash sale
can be this guy?
>>736493834Sadly there is neither a scythe nor cloaking technology in this game.
I know what this game is, but I still dream about piloting the death scythe models..
>>736493909one day...what the fuck is up with Gundam never making a good game? it's mind-boggling to me.
>>736493512The previous games stuck on consoles have manual aiming retard. This is the only game in the series that autotracks enemies and it's the only one on PC.
>>736494071>neverGihren's Greed is good, shame it's not translated
>>736493909that's what's cool about death scythe. it doesn't need guns
>>736494341>not translatedno wonder I haven't heard of them. Japanese only?
>>736494341>turn based strategy gamedoesn't count if it's not an action game
>>736491363to this day, that shit still pisses me offACs should not move like people, all herky-jerky and shit}they should have weight to them
>>736494071The Dynasty Warrior Gundam games are pretty fun if you can stomach musou. They're better than your usual musou.
>>736494538are you taking about mods for dynasty warrior?
>>736494538>>736494579I've played the dynasty warrior games up to 5, and came to the conclusion they're all the same. they get boring quick.
>>736494579https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_Warriors:_Gundam
>>736494681I Wikipedia
>>736494680Probably won't like them too much either then, at its core its a very repetitive genre. Still might be fun to pick one up and fuck around for a few hours.
>>736494405Yep, though the best one "Gihren's Greed V: Menace of Axis" has partial fantranslation. They're also very old, V is a PSP game and it's the second newest in the seriesI will warn you, the gameplay is turn based and depending on how many battles you have going at the same time it can get tedious, but if you ever played Nobunaga's Ambition then it's the same appeal - shitton of alternate reality and what-if scenarioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PC_jA8AJivUYou WILL need a guide for a lot of them, but I advise to just go blind at first
>>736493834https://youtu.be/7y3iJONswLo?t=11Not really
>>736494095Gosh did you want to tell me anything else I already know? That doesn't change the fact that they added lock on for this one so aiming isn't as important.
>>736495301>they build it around using a lock-on because they didn't want to make people aim guns on a controller>they didn't want to make people aim guns on a controller>on a controller
>>736491193You can but I wouldent. If the game is 3rd person and an action based combat game you should be using a controller.
>>736495507>>>Are you aware that Armored Core 6 is generally played with a controller on both consoles and PC?
>>736496302see >>736494095
>>736491193It's playable with whatever you got. Game is worth the effort to beat it multiple times.
>>736496302>source? my ass
>>736493834there's melee weapons that are stronger than primaries, yes see the blue arch? You hit everything in that range twice with a charged laser sword
>>736493036Why are darkies so easy to bait?
>>736496302>>736496635Wow you're stupid. I guess you don't even realize that the Japanese actually consider what the controller buttons are assigned to and it is a part of the immersive experience to use a controller. The triggers and shoulder buttons are lined up with the mech's arms. You lose that on keyboard and mouse.
>>736491193It is perfectly playable, but Mechwarrior 5 is objectively more fun
>>736496850>you should use worse controls because, uhm, it just makes senseNo, it makes more sense that mechs would use keyboards for piloting so KBM is more immersive
>>736497048>Mechwarrior 5 is objectively more funMega kek. Don't let this stompy cuck fool you, Armored Core VI is the most fun fromsoft game in years. The boss battles are memorable and highly dynamic.
>>736497158Spoken like a real moron who doesn't understand controlschemes as one to one representations of the character enhance the experience. I bet you've never even played Death Stranding with a controller. Kojima is the best at fully utilizing control schemes for maximum immersion.
>>736493834Only this guy. And the TV zero.
>>736497416>I bet you never played Death SloppingSadly, I did>control schemes as one ot one representations of the characterI control a humanoid mech, not an /-\ shaped mech. You sound like a retard AND an autist
>>736497158>it makes more sense that mechs would use keyboards for pilotingYou're genuinely insane.
>>736497647>shitty drones that don't require any precisionvs>state of the art machine that emulates human movementYep, controllerfags are mentally ill
>mechs don't have two arms and two legs connected to a central body>but they do have plank panel and a tumor attached to an umbilical cordWho's the dumbass here really? >sadly I played death stranding So you have a cold hardened heart and you hate joy. Got it. Sorry about your terminal asshole syndrome.
>kojimafag is mentally illNothing new. Sorry about your terminal shit taste
PC keks will do anything to make others feel inferior to themWe get it, you have a superiority complex
>>736497721you control a fighter jet with what anon? say it! fuckin SAY IT!
>>736498397Yes, I played Ace Combat and Project Wingman with mouise and keyboard as God intended
>>736493834Youre getting a pile bunker and you will love it.
Armored Core was designed to be played with a controller.
Kb/m vs gamepad on armored core? Depends. If you're the type that can do a 180 turn with just a small flick, then mouse is great. But if you're the type that needs to swipe your whole desk for it, just stick to gamepad aimbot, you pleb.
Armored Core was designed to be played with a mouse and keyboard
>ah so intuitive>T. KBM Apologist
This has pretty great KB+M controls as far as console ports go. Only problem is the shoulder weapons being bound to Q/E so you can't strafe in one direction while charging up a laser weapon
>>736498947>is that more than 1 button>AAAAAAAAA SAVE MEwhy are controllerniggers always sub-60IQ
>>736498432Weird how those don't have you controlling a real life jet from the cockpit. Now what do pilots in that cockpit use to fly the jet?
>>736499006Look at 80% of buttons not being used. Why would I need to overcomplicate it to be immersed. Do you not know what immersion is?
>>736498432You'd have to be retarded to play AC with a keyboard but PW was great, went the War Thunder way where you just point where to go
>>736499092Weird how Armored Core doesn't have you control a real life mech from the cockpit>Now what do pilots in that cockpit use to fly the jet?Don't know, don't care
>>736498965>can't cross fingersYou can press E/Q or D/A at the same time. You have 5 fucking fingers on one hand, not a single thumb. Just move your other finger a cm to the left or right. This isn't a gamepad where you can't move your thumb left and right at the same time.
>>736499283The fuck are you talking about nigger? What if you're charging both shoulder weapons at once, huh?
>>736498947I grew up a consolebab so I’m always gonna prefer a controller but I can live with mkb so long as every single offensive option can be mapped to my mouse. Even melee. I put melee on middle click in FPS to appease my autism
Mouse is better for every game where you swivel a camera to look around
>>736499332Just rebind it to your mouse side buttons or whatever else you prefer>>736499131>Why would I need to overcomplicate it to be immersedDon't know, I'm not using a controller that overcomplicates it by restricting how many buttons I have available
>>736499464>Just rebind itNo shit. I did say it's the only problem with the control scheme
>>736499235>Don't knowYou must say that constantly.
>>736499607No, as a PCGOD I can just alttab and look it up. It's consolecucks that are stuck without answers. This is one of the many reasons why console games are massively dumbed down compared to PC ones
>>736499692bro, your phone?
>>736499332What, are you pressing A and D at on top of Q and E? The fuck are you doing literally trying to move left and right at the same time, you retard?
>KBM>ControllersYou're both wrong. ACs are controlled by the pilot's nervous system and resolve/will.Pic related, this is you in AC6.
>>736499741You said cross your fingers over, niggerfaggotQ and E have a finger on them cause you're charging a weapon, your thumb is for spaceYou now cannot move diagonally unless you're backpedalling so hard that you're pretending you use your pinky to hit A or something. No more (you)s either way cause you're clearly just pretending
>>736499464you seem to have no comprehension of words like "complicated" and "immersive" so I'm terminating this conversation
>>736499769explains why mechs can be staggered
>>736491193i played all of AC6 on mouse/keyboard without an issue, and without even using hardlockthe game actually buffs your FCS accuracy/speed when you:1) use softlockand2) keep enemies in the center 50% of the screenhardlock consolefags can't get this advantagehowever there were two fights that where using softlock was very difficult and it took me dozens of tries to win.>ibisflies around you at mach 10>the end boss for NG++flies around you at mach 35
Got the alea iacta est ending, is there anything more in subsequent NGs?>>736493190I'm still waiting for Otogi 3 so get in line.
>>736499920I had to lock on for Ibis and most of Ayre, the true final boss was fine
>>736499954No more new options or anything like that. The 100% for the game would now just be s-ranking every mission you already did
>>736491193yeah
>>736499847>Fucking niggerfaggot can't comprehend how to press 3 keys on a keyboard at the same time.Holy shit. Consolefags really are retards.
>>736499954Did you get all parts? Killed all special enemies?
>>736499872Concession accepted
It would be 4 fingers cause I said move diagonally. But you knew that
>>736499464but fat-fingering unintentional keys doesn't happen on controllers only keyboards and mouse. The risk of that happening is itself a complication of using that peripheral.
>chingchong SMG>bazooka>double needle launcheryep it's corin' time
>>736500195>but fat-fingering unintentional keys doesn't happenon keyboard unless you're a fat faggot with fat faggot fingers, in which case it will happen on controller too
>>736499920I 100% AC6 on MKB and I still don't know what the fuck softlock and hardlock is
>>736500261Delusional. You're bending the nature of reality to your argument here. No wonder the other guy gave up arguing with your brand of stupidity.
>>736500320do you remember ocarina of time Z-targeting? thats hardlock
>>736500320Well you know the game aims for you automatically, of course. Just by having the camera at the enemy. That's softlockHardlock is locking on with middle mouse where the camera automatically follows the enemyOf course it's incredibly easy to accidentally break hardlock cause the slightest mouse movement disables it
>>736500357No, I have never once in my life "fat fingered" a wrong button on keyboard, it's not something that happens in reality, only in consolecuck delusions
>>736500183>>736500357No wonder this retard can't comprehend how to press 4 keys at once. He has no spatial recognition. The guy is a bonafide retard.
>>736498432You're a degenerate.
>>736500358>do you remember a game you never playedno>>736500392I locked onto every enemy so the missiles wouldn't constantly try to switch target or lose him resetting their lock-on progress but I never had the camera move on it's own. This is why I'm confused by the soft vs hard lock stuff because explanations like this just make it sound like I played with something inbetween
>>736500680If you were constantly swivelling the camera, then you were playing with softlock only. It's the default way the game works, people just call it "lock" because it autotargets the thing closest to the middle of the screen. Thus you don't have to aim your gun exactly at the boss to shoot it like in an FPS, you just keep the boss in the middle of the screen and all your munitions will aim at it
>>736500789>because it autotargets the thing closest to the middle of the screenYes, which is why I kept locking onto them with middle mouse button so it doesn't change targets every second. But despite this "harder" lock it never moved my camera on it's own and it still lost all missile progress if they left the screen
>>736500445>it's not something that happens in reality, only in consolecuck delusions>it never happens in reality>that's why there's a common lexicon term "fat-fingering" to describe the phenomenom of going to press one button but you were off in your placement and pressed anotherLike I said, you have a special kind of delusion that prevents you from experiencing the world through alternative perspectives. You have main character syndrome.
>>736500884Because you moved the camera minutely which instantly breaks the lock. If you move your mouse at all it instantly breaks the hard lock and you have to press middle mouse again. You just instinctively did mouse movements which broke the lockIf you have the game installed or ever replay it, consciously stop moving your mouse at all after you lock and then run around an enemy, the camera will keep up
>>736500959Yes, a lexicon term coined by fat fingered fat faggots, hence the nameIt doesn't happen in reality if you're not an obese retard, something I already explained
>>736501092>Yes, a lexicon term coined by fat fingered fat faggots, hence the nameyou argued it doesn't happen in reality, but in reality there's a term for it because of the commonality of the phenomenon your argument has been invalidated and you are just trolling for more (yous)
>>736501217>you argued it doesn't happen in realityNo I didn't, please read my post >>736500261 more carefully>reddit spacing
>>736491193Not only you need a controller, you also need to hold like this
>>736499920Ibis is hard no matter what. Dumping assault armor on it at least speeds up the necessary stagger bar build-up. The final final final boss is meant to be hard, but at that point it was easier than some of the previous missions. This game swings wildly in terms of how strong each weapon is and even which enemies take less damage from it, so someone could have a totally different opinion on which parts were hard based entirely on their loadout.
>>736501615>Ibis is hard no matter what.Before the nerf, yes. After, not really, just stay on her ass with overboost. Her stagger bar is pretty low so this is easy to abuse.
>>736499692>I can just alttab and look it up.Is there a reason why you didn't look up how jet planes are piloted instead of saying you don't know?
Controller is superior
>>736501698Yes, read the post again and maybe you'll figure it out
>>736500031>>736500139Thanks, and no I haven't 100% the game, nor really care about doing so. If there was new content of any sort in subsequent NGs sure, but I don't care about achievements. >killed all special enemiesPretty sure I've done this though, I autistically explore every map.
>>736502003No worries fren, I just 100%ed the game when I was replaying it anyway. I just meant that you are missing no more content now
>>736501298Reddit spacing is a nice deflection, I don't care what your bias is towards other websites. I am arguing that your definition of these terms and your position over which is more complicated are factually incorrect. >>736500445>it's not something that happens in reality,A false statement proven to be incorrect by the sheer existence of a dedicated term to describe the act of unintentionally pressing one key when you were improperly aligned with the intended one.>>736499464>I'm not using a controller that overcomplicates it by restricting how many buttons I have availableCase in point, you said controllers are more complicated because they have less buttons. That's a false statement because the existence of more superfluous keys, ones that can be "fat fingered" unintentionally, actually complicate the user experience and require a steeper learning curve to account for it. What you have is a bias towards this device, and you've ineffectually defended that position of one being less complicated over the other.
>>736491193Kb&m works better, hardlock reduces tracking on your weapons>>736498965Rebind those then to mouse side buttons for example
>>736491193Yes, it's actually better with MKB because the lock-on isn't OP as fuck.
>>736501703we should trust him
>I just want another AC game that plays like the PSX/PS2 era of AC.>techno, EDM, drum n bass, electronic soundtrack>stylish UI and menu>actual weight to the ACs, feels like you're (somewhat) controlling a giant hunk of metal and not a human in the form of a mech>a shit-ton of other ACs to mog at the arena>more varied missions ranging from: Escorting, defusing bombs, defend the objective, escape the facility under a timer, etc.I don't remember much of AC6's mission other than go in and kill shitand yes, I want the "outdated and clunky" control of utilizing the d-pad to move and shoulder buttons to look up and down and strafe. it adds to the feeling of controlling a mech imo.also the all the designs of the frame parts kind of pales in comparison to the parts of previous games.https://youtu.be/iFqtrBAd9hs
>>736502182>It's a false statementIt isn't, having less buttons complicates things because it offers you less choice in how to rebind them and complicates the controls by forcing multi-key inputs instead of having dedicated ones>ones that can be "fat fingered" unintentionallyHave you considered losing weight?>ineffectuallyHardly, I BTFO'd every controllerfag ITT
>>736502396fuck you
>>736501703>>736502396and the email system with the animations of the sender's logos. Always loved seeing them play out
>>736502469>having less buttons complicates thingsBut there are the correct amount of buttons represented on the controller to match the intended controlscheme, that isn't by definition limiting anything. You're stretching definitions to meet the purposes of your argument, you aren't be analytical at all about this.
>>736502587>But there are the correct amount of buttons represented on the controller to match the intended controlschemeNo, that's a false assumption. The control scheme is purposefully simplified and gimped to fit onto a controller, that is by definition limiting>You're stretching definitions to meet the purposes of your argument, you aren't be analytical at all about thisAnd this is just projection
>port the fucking mobile games and not ANY of the older titles???
>>736502743>The control scheme is purposefully simplified>(Armored Core's) control scheme is purposefully (optimized for Controller)Ah, thanks for satisfying the original argument, that Armored Core was designed to be played on a controller. Now there's no need to argue any further, because I agree with you.
>>736503140>Game is shit on purposeWeird thing to consider an argument, let alone a winning one
Controller is better because you can have analog trigger booster and second stage quickboost.Felt great in FA (the superior game)
>>736491193That's the best way to play it. This is also the thing I wanted the most from this new game.Playing AC with a controller was always suffering so I'm glad we got a new Armored Core on PC.
>>736501780I didn't want to believe that you would repeatedly claim you "don't care" about anything that would prove you wrong. I guess you'd drive on the wrong side of the road and "not care" why you're in oncoming traffic.
>>736491193Suprisingly its their most playable game on mkb
>>736501671I played pre-nerf, so I already knew what to expect from Ibis after the patch. I don't know if it was actually made way easier, or if this is like Balteus where projectiles have 0.00007% less tracking and it's otherwise identical.
