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what went wrong with Endfield?
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>>>/vmg/
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>>736500514
>Why can't we package the same game over and over again
Gee idk, must be the gamers fault for sure thou
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>chinese learn that you can't keep making the same rpg over and over
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Have they tried not making it like that or is that Gayshit Infact's fault too?
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>>736500514
It wasn't very good and a lot of the characters are obviously filler
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>>736500603
They should make a kart racer.
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Nothing. It's hands down the best gacha on the market right now.
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I enjoyed it for a while but it has been painfully obvious this game had no staying power whatsoever.
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>be the only gacha with an actually fun and engaging gameplay that isn’t just autobattle slop and interesting characters that don’t feel like simple props
>make the sequel a Genshin clone
>make the factory gay and shallow
>replace all storytelling with “uwu MC with no personality, you’re so cool and strong and reliable please marry me!” waifu pandering
>dox your customers’ paypal accounts
ArKWAB EoSfield kek
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>>736500514
The type of people that beta test gacha games ruined it.
They tried something different initially, but beta testers complained about it and pushed it closer to being just another hack n slash gacha with a shitty generic hoyo story.
Same shit happened to WUWA's story because the faggots got upset the women were too mean to the player character.
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>>736501438
>replace all storytelling with “uwu MC with no personality, you’re so cool and strong and reliable please marry me!” waifu
Unfortunately, there's too much storytelling distracting from the awesomeness of my waifu Perlica
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ban gachafaggots
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>>736500514
These motherfuckers have the guts to talk about "other titles" when their dogshit tutorials made 75% of the potential playerbase uninstall the fucking game in the first 5 hours
Awful tutorials
Awful side quests
Awful dialogue even in main quest
Awful amount of content on launch, blueballs people at the beginning of second zone... FOR MONTHS
They fucked up big time and it has nothing to do with genshit
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>>736500514
>make genshin clone
>its so hard to get away with making genshin clones!
whats wrong with chang?
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They ruined all the appeal of the original arkknights for genshin bucks and wonder why nobody likes it?
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If your studio needs more than this to survive then what the fuck are you doing
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>>736500514
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>the chinese mandarin is nails on chalkboard for me
>the mainlander chinese changlish by their "professional industry VAs" is pretty charming to me like retard TangTangs english

Thats pretty interesting.
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>>736500514
It's hoyoslop but with all kemonomimis
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>>736501925
is that their quarter report?
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Taishin testo
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>>736500514
Haven't kept up with it to know if it's in a good place or not, but the game filtered me for having a terrible story and a barrage of tutorials that actually made everything appear more complex than it was. It also didn't help that the story was terrible. I dropped it just before I could get my last 10 roll for the beginner banner.
All things considered, the only "tough" part about launching a "new gacha RPG in a post-Genshin world" is having an even worse gacha system than Genshin. The gacha system alone made me hate the game before launch and greatly dislike it how. I hope it fails for the level of greed; I have never seen another gacha that punishes players both for going to pity and for getting a drop early.
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>>736502478
No, that's monthly gacha revenue.
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well haven't I seen this exact thread yesterday
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>>736500514
Its based on a >tower defense game
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>>736502493 (Me)
>It also didn't help that the story was terrible
I meant the gameplay.
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>>736502582
reported by who?
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>>736501925
>tampon game at the top
I kneel
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>>736502812
mcdonalds
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I still play it
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>>736501079
Actually a good idea
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>>736502861
as I expected
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Genshin Impact is simply the product of a well-timed release. It'd have been just another anime slot machine if it wasn't for the chink flu.

It will be hard for a gacha to stand out as long Genshin exists.
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>>736500514
>Genshin does something different
>Forces every other JPEG gacha games to keep up
>So hard!!!
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>>736503293
>still seething 5 years later
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>>736503293
this.
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>>736501438
>replace all storytelling with “uwu MC with no personality, you’re so cool and strong and reliable please marry me!” waifu pandering
Is this the same game that had that guy that was supposedly NTRing the chinese players favourite girl, is this overcorrection for that? Or am I mistaking it for another game?
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>>736503982
You're probably thinking of Girls' Frontline 2.
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>>736501438
>tower defense gameplay
>fun
You're right about Endfield though.
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>>736504697
nta but AK was absolutely fun before they made the gameplay a massive chore to play. I think that was around the second anni that it happened.
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>download game three days ago
>kinda enjoy gameplay
>somehow get tall snow lady that's cute and parries like a fucking tank
>Looks like you build manufacturing systems, too.

I don't know. I kinda like it. Not sure if the factory building stuff will filter me or hook me in.
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>>736500514
>Add nigger asses to pander to blacks and americans
>Add nigger ass technology to pander to blacks and americans
>Flop
They went woke and went broke, that's what went broke
Maybe next time try pandering to china instead of the west
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Isnt the original Arknights a tower defense thing? It seemed to have an interesting setting too, at least what I heard from a video I watched on weird crossovers (why the fuck did it have a rainbow six siege crossover)
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>>736500514
>>736341508
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>>736505210
>tall snow lady
Snowshine is an autistic ball of happiness and she will save your ass more than once if you keep her lol.

But the factorio gameplay is an automatic filter. If you're not into it from the get go, you'll hate it until you leave.
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Damn, maybe they should make a game that's not just a Genshin clone.
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>>736501438
>>be the only gacha with an actually fun and engaging gameplay that isn’t just autobattle slop
but it is autobattle TD chibishit
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>>736501438
None of the open world gachas are autoable though
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>>736502928
Im sure people would be clamoring for a bad Mario Kart clone.
Most kart racers are shallow, Mario Kart itself included.
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>>736507178
You have to win without autobattle first before you unlock autobattle. Auto battle is just redoing your old inputs so it could be fucked up by crits or lack of crits and you would have to tune it. That was fun.
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>>736509050
Clearing resource stages was kinda fun but then you start upgrading 5 anf 6 star units to E2 and it becomes brainless so you have to purposefully gimp yourself.
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>>736500514
>making games so derivative that people get bored just thinking about what playing it and avoid it altogether
seems like a bad game problem
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Also how did they go from the edgefest of the first game to all the characters being happy-go-lucky?
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My first issues with the game were the endless tutorials and factory.
However after using prefabs and just auto doing the tutorials, my problems now are:
The horrible job list, if you transfer a job, you can get the docked payout from someone else delivering your package. So both parties get fucked.
Takes forever to find a Wuling job.

Resources seem way too little for how much it takes to level up and pad out one character. I can go from 1.4million T-Creds to 300k by just leveling one character up.

The Abberant Valley(spelling?) is neat, but they're very slow with updating it with how easy it is to run through it and do the side quests in it.

The gacha rewards are not .. Very much per patch.
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>>736500514
I got Rossi and my interest in continuing plummeted so I stopped. Its a very pretty game, for the first time I prefer the Chinese area to the other zone. My problem is the combat is very unremarkable, and the factory gameplay is also pretty shallow as well but I still enjoyed it despite that. Unfortunately once you are done with that(which doesnt take particularly long to get set up) its left alone. Whats left after you're done with it is just the very meh combat which sucks. Also, the events have been awful. Cleaning shit off of walls? Seriously?

I havent logged in for days and maybe ill check out the new patch but none of the future characters particularly interest me and what it will have is just more of what we have which doesnt entertain me enough.
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>Be chink gacha dev
>Make Genshin clone
>Despite wanting to make something different you must have 50% of the environment and characters be Wuxia theme to appeal to glorious CCP
>Game just looks like a Genshin clone regardless
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>>736500514
>gacha
>furries
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>>736500514
I didn't play it after hearing about the paypal issue and apparently some malware issue. Though I never confirmed if the malware thing was true.

I don't think I would stick with the game anyway. Tired of open world.
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>>736505089
It barely counts as a tower defense.
Too dynamic
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>>736500514
That is an unbelievably pathetic thing to admit
>>736501506
Or maybe it's the devs' fault for listening to obviously retarded criticism
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>>736500514
Why did it have to be yet another genshin
The xenoblade combat would have made it unique
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>>736500514
Just need more stuff to explore and I’m good, I like the story so far
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Endfield feels like a time capsule of Genshin's bad decisions that every other game has moved on from

>zero endgame whatsoever
>condensed resin required for 2x rewards
>no stamina overflow
>MC has zero dialogue or presence compared to their companion(s)
>extremely stingy with premium currency rewards
>multiple outright completely useless units

It's like these developers lived in a bubble and started developement while Genshin was still relevant and never looked outside the bubble failing to realize Honkai Star Rail set the standards all other gacha games follow.
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>>736500514
There's ultimately no point to any of the shit. ALL of the factory, the deliveries, the stock market shit just goes to getting your weekly artificing attempts. The entirety of the credits thing with all the friends visiting is for like maybe 1/5 of a pull per week. Spending stamina gets you a level 80 character about every two weeks, but there's literally no point to doing so. The current endgame is 9 challenge fights and 4 bosses that you only need to do once for the achievement, or literally never if you don't care, cause they don't give pulls. If your invested in the game, it unravels from the top, and that's before the garbage story.
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>>736500514
They made the exact same game that they're complaining about in the post.
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>>736500514
Every gacha wants you to spend way too much time playing them, rather than just be something you can check every now and then to have some fun. Constant events and daily tasks breathing down your neck if you're not playing it on an almost daily basis.
You just can't have an industry like this and expect people not to latch on to just a handful of games and ignore the vast majority.
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>>736505210
>Not sure if the factory building stuff will filter me or hook me in.

It was turned of by it at first but it’s really fucking easy to set up and you don’t have to min max it hard
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>>736510546
Nothing about this game even remotely resembles genshin. You might as well argue the Witcher 3 is a Genshin impact clone. Genshitters are delusional schizos of a whole different breed
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>>736500514
combat is braindead, story is barebones and intentionally so as retarded chinks didn't want it to be any darker or deeper, factory is a ton of work for relatively little rewards and solved by just stealing other people's blueprints anyways, chinese area is ass cancer like every other gacha, character designs are largely visual vomit
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>>736500514
Flopfield...
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>>736511751
You didn't play the game, just copypasting /v/ posts
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no one plays genshit anymore tho except 3 mentally ill trannies
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>>736511880
I did but I assume anyone who uses this as a defense isn't gonna accept any other explanation because they're fucking retarded.
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>>736501925
Well, it's a success, but probably not the leve of success they wanted. The game had massive production and marketing budgets.
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>>736501925
Aren't these charts just IOS (or android, cant remember) and in one region?

If so, they don't really mean much.
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>>736506985
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>>736501817
I love tang tang, most fleshed out gacha character ever.
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>>736500514
>what went wrong with Endfield?
Honestly, played it and it's an alright game, pretty fair gacha to the point I have all banner characters and didn't spend a single cent, the problem it has is that the combat controls are bad, basically press X until the ability bar is full so you drop like 3 or 4 things and come back to wait until it replenishes again, so far to where I got the combat is fucking mindbogglingly easy, almost no need to evade attacks.
I was paying attention to the cinematics and the story is mid at best and the actions the characters do are bad, they barely even move their mouth if even that when speaking, they make no expressions, the character might be screaming and they're just there still slowly moving their mouths.
The problem with this and other games is that I honestly have played this game already.
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>>736511106
The thing is that even Genshin handled those things better

>zero endgame whatsoever
at least Gensin had Abyss
>condensed resin required for 2x rewards
at least you can craft it for free
>multiple outright completely useless units
and other 4* characters were staple for like 5 years

And most importantly their gacha system is one step backwards from Genshin.
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>>736500514
>Play Chinese gacha
>Know that in the next 20 hours I'll be in a China inspired map where everyone is happy and it's so great and my ears are bleeding from bad accents.
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>>736501925
>Endfield lower despite just dropping Tangtang and Rossi
Oh man that's not good.
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>>736500514
Hypergrift's hubris after the fluke that was making zillions with 2D chibishit
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>>736513286
I swear Chinese devs would pop off if they weren't held back by the twin debuffs of catering to mobile pigs and catering to the state demands for nationalistic depictions of their culture.
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>>736513450
Undue success leading to hubristic downfalls genuinely never gets old.
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>>736501438
>KWAB EoS
why do all SEAniggas talk like this, its like their callsign signalling to everyone "im brown!!"
that and
>kekaroo or similar variations
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It looks interesting but the dailies man
Is the worst aspect of every gacha
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>>736503293
its more that genshin was basically the first of its kind, if it came out today it would be universally considered pretty bad
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>make entire progression based around base building
>do nothing meaningful with the base building post release, it is build and forget after a day
>dailies are awful unless you choose to ignore the progression related shit and just get the gibs for pulls
>no pity carryover
>a gacha system that people are now realizing after appearing super generous at release is actually just as dogshit or worse than any normal system
Really about sums it up.
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>>736500514
>what went wrong with Endfield?
they remade everything at the last moment to appeal to genshin chinks who bitched and whined that the game wasn't like genshin during beta
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>>736513647
English is just sounds to them. They're more like a parrot just copying the noises they hear.
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>>736500514
>consumers have basic pattern recognition when you copy a formula
Woah, this NEEDED a new article.
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Why is there now some hoyotroon seething at Endfield daily on /v/?
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>>736513580
It's the only reason I can think of for why they released a game that not only didn't have all the QoL and standards set (like it or not) by Genshin/HSR, but actively went out of its way to make all of it WORSE in every regard. They really thought their shit didn't stink and their brand and IP would carry their ass. It's incredible, really.
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>>736514124
they do that for every new game
they'll switch to NTE when it releases at the end of the month, hoyofags are the WoWfags of gachas
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>>736513476
The latter I understand because the CCP will gut your funding and disappear your staff if you don't bend the knee, but who the FUCK would want to play any of these "modern" gacha games with the exception of Star Rail on a phone? Third worlders blow my mind.
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>>736500514
I'm impressed that gacha still exists as a genre, it's so shameless in the way it holds out its hand for money
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>>736501925
These charts are unreliable because they use multipliers that obfuscate the real numbers or in some case you got that COMBINED (All regions) and GLOBAL (Regions that are not the source region) thing.
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>>736514209
Endfield is an objectively better game than any mihoyo slop though.
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>>736514209
>release game in a full retard state
>game subsists off of hype
>game numbers start to dwindle
>slowly introduce QoL or improvements so people will say "the devs listened!!!!" and keep paypigging
it's really not that complicated
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>>736514302
Explain
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>>736514209
Their IP and brand isn't in the game. The game says arknights but there's no arknights to be found
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>>736514331
this
if you let players have it too good early on, they'll just want more and more later
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>>736514238
Because Asian salaryhusks in their 30s still exist. They all work 996 and have way too much money with not enough time to spend it.
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Honestly Endfield is like the only 3d gacha game that feels like it was made by actual people who cared about making a videogame. Just compare its handcrafted smaller maps to giant empty slop maps from Wuwa/Genshin that feel like they were made by AI
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>>736513062
>almost no need to evade attacks.
Maybe play longer than 15 minutes. You have no idea what the combat is like until you're at level cap
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>apparently the factory shit was like 5x more complicated and in depth during the beta
>they had to dumb it down and gut it because chinks were getting hard filtered and cried about it
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>>736512147
>who uses this as a defense isn't gonna accept any other explanation because they're fucking retarded.
You shouldn't be so hard on yourself bro. Anyone can change
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>>736514238
I don't understand why people say shit like this about gacha games when you can literally beat the entire game for free without paying anything
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>>736514302
All I have to do to prove you shiteaters wrong is bring up the entire gacha system, I don't even have to name anything else. They thought they could get away with that abhorrent shit when everyone else in the industry moves to be better than Hoyo _as a starting point_, that's all evidence anyone needs.
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>>736514607
Chinks? I saw plenty of western gachatards on twitter jumping on Endfield during first month and getting filtered by supposedly gutted factory
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>>736514775
>western
SEAs mostly
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>>736514691
>Hoyotroon is literally incapable of thinking about anything else but gambling
Kek, no wonder your games are so shit. I finished Endfield without spending a dime and had a much more enjoyable experience than when I played your BotW ripoff btw
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>>736514924
>the game isn't below-industry-standard jewish garbage because i coped through it
denounce the talmud right now
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What genuinely baffles me about this shit is that it is only chink companies doing this.
If a Jap company made a fully fleshed out gacha game devoid of the mandatory CCP shilling it would absolutely pop the fuck off and top charts, but there is something about Jap executives wherein they are all demonstrably utterly retarded and will constantly shoot themselves in the foot over sentimentality or some other stupid thing.
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>>736500514
Just launch it in a pre-genshin world then, what's your problem faggot.
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>>736501079
You can make the characters look sexy on motorcycles like in mario kart which is a huge plus for a gacha. Good idea.
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>>736500603
Worked with Skyrim tho
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wuwa is better KEKAROO
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>>736515287
They'd just get fucked over by (((localizers))) and (((payment processors))) like they have been for the last decade. The good Japanese stuff isn't allowed to leave the country anymore.
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>what went wrong
Being so incompetent that you allow chinks to steal your money via PayPal, and then offer no compensation for that disaster and pretend it never happened
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>>736515287
Jap gachas have a (bad) reputation at this point, I sure as hell am never playing a new one until a couple years after launch at best
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>>736515287
Would it? The gachashit market is heavily saturated. You'd need an actual breakout concept to stand out from the rest instead of just having slightly better 3d models or more fanservice.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>736500514
Maybe they shouldn't have tried to make genshin but with lite factorio elements, gachas deserve to die
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>>736515837
The compensation is that everyone who benefitted from the stolen money got to keep it
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>>736515929
The issue is they're all charging genshin money for the same experience without realizing genshin only got away with it because it was the only one offering it at the time.
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>>736500514
Beside of the pink hair agp triggering girl do they have any other interesting character?
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>>736515939
>they gave us a years notice
>fuck it I'll wait because ps5 will be cheaper in a year

oops
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Make all the characters kemonos and the player character human and I'll play your slop and buy skins. Easy formula but devs are too pussy to do it
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>>736514561
I've played more than 15 minutes, I got almost into the massive explosion that happened in the lab in the third major zone you go, the problem is that the game is meh at best and I didn't feel like playing anymore.
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>>736513647
I'm so glad someone finally started to notice seanigger speech patterns
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>>736514124
Its a GFLtard, always has been after lowlight left to make more successful games.
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>>736516093
we got this shit
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>>736503293
Dumbest poster ITT
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>>736516238
Why is she wearing a bunch of giant paperclips with arrows attached
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>>736513647
How is this a symptom of being brown over being a zoomer or Gen Alpha?
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>>736500514
Why are they making so many excuses? This game/dev is so frustrating
The have sent enough player surveys and got feedback, they have to know the problem people have is the shitty pull income and the trash gacha with no pity carryover.
Me (and many others evidently) are not going to be motivated to play a game long term where we can get one character every 2+ patches. And I can't even just throw a 10-pull or two to maybe get lucky, because if I get nothing the pity won't carry over.

Yet these are the things they refused to fix or address.
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>>736516339
Zoomers don't even know what kek is
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>>736516093
bro? look at those screens
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>>736500514
way too much story focus on the refugees
who cares about this shit
they should've gone all out on member berries for the original
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>>736500514
If they made these normal rpgs without the gaas cancer shit, they would be actually worth trying.
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>>736516409
Maybe try not being a gambling addict. Endfield is a game first.
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>>736516307
penis reference
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I'm still having fun albeit.
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>>736516660
So where's the gameplay
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>>736500514
It's a visually appealing game but that's about it. The combat is mediocre gachaslop, the gacha system isn't particularly good, the story is the blandest shit ever to the point that I don't think you can make it blander on purpose, 70% of the personality of every character is glazing the MC nonstop and there is no point playing it over an actual factory game if the factory is the part you like.
It just does nothing better than other games other than the characters being sexo.
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>>736514607
Putting a factory system on a game whose genre has the fans with the most downright lobotomized levels of brain damage was always going to end up on a mediocre watered down factory system.
I've only played a couple gachas and it is always so hilarious how much they handhold the players through tutorials and everything in general.
It's like they assume the player is retarded, and they are probably right most of the time.
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>>736503293
>It'd have been just another anime slot machine if it wasn't for the chink flu
i started it in 2023 and i still think it's one of the best games out there
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>>736516657
they would be only a percent of their size and not worth trying
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>>736503293
That's not entirely true
On some level it had to have had the merit to hook people and make them want to play it during and through covid.

A well-timed release, sure. But there were dozens of other games that also released during covid and did not catch on the same way because the product wasn't as good.
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>>736516882
on youtube
why do you guys never ask for gameplay webms on other threads?
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>>736503293
>thousands of games released during the pandemic
>only this one made it big because... BECAUSE I SAY SO
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>>736500514
this
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>>736503293
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>>736518442
>being a disingenuous retard
60 pulls gets 6* all random. 120 gets the limited 6* guarenteed.
Everything else is a bonus. Not that hard to understand but since you're an idiot it's no wonder you don't.
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>>736500514
They said right there what the problem is. These chink open-world games are just copies of eachother.
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>>736500514
Pull economy is shit.
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>>736501079
PVP kart racing...
Factory builder?
I'd be down.
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>>736510437
I was playing Arknights from Blemishine event up until the Sankta event. Not exactly interested in Endfield or returning to Arknights, but after seeing this critter so many times I have to ask: why there is so much love around her? Is she more like Projekt Red or Suzuran?
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i think they just need to double down on the powerlines, factory and even turret defenses and call it a day, i haven't killed anything manually in weeks, my gameplay is buying stocks and autistically optimizing power consumption so i don't lose batteries.
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>>736503293
You didn't even shit on Genshin. Why are they so defensive?
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>>736500514
>boot up new gacha
>get to the summoning part
>same system as genshin
>constellations, weapon banner etc
>immediately close gacha
its just that simple lol. i don't know how they got away with how convincing millions of retards that the "pity" system is awesome.
>0-70 pulls before pity may as well be shooting blanks
>put 5-6 characters on the fucking standard banner instead of a large pool meaning your 50/50 generous pity is going to be a brick
>half the characters past year 1 need at least one constellation to be usable with their weapon
>every character is "limited"
fuck that shit
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>>736505210
>>736506985
How tall are we talking?
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>>736516237
Strong doubt, nobody gives this much of a fuck about GFL.
t. GFLfag
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>>736514607
I never played it but on the day it came out I watched a stream of a guy who always does reset marathon for these big gacha. And legit third of the chat was talking about being stuck on the factory tutorial.
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permaban gachaniggers
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>>736519868
"is this boss baby?" ahh post
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>>736513647
KWAB is literally older than you Anon.
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>>736520346
just because you spam it incessantly doesn't make it old
you're not fooling anyone brownie
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>>736500514
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>hmm everyone is already playing a gacha or two, how can we make sure they play ours too?
>let's put a thousand systems in it you're forced to interact with for hours every day!
chinks outchinked themselves yet again
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>>736520227
nah he's right, the gacha system mihomo popularized is fucking ass
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>>736520227
Mihoyo started the whole bullshit with 50/50 and weapon banners.
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>>736520661
Yeah I play 2 gacha games and if I was to pick up another it needs to be quick and easy to play. I don't neex to play everyday but I am not sitting through hours of tutorials to manage towers and resources. I'd rather just go play a city builder
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>>736520636
So endfield is pretty average here? Makes sense. I agree with this list except maybe zzz should be placed as the best when it comes to character designs instead of genshin. Genshin is good occasionally, like with ineffa, but zzz nails good character designs more frequently.
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>>736519868
only chinese games love that sub 1% rates with carryover pity horseshit system tbqh
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Needs more horse pussy if Gryphline wants me to reinstall it
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>>736501438
>Autobattlers
I'd like to blame the zoomers, but this has been going on for decades.
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>>736521241
im pretty sure the leftmost icon is the best in that list
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>>736500514
As someone that love Arknights to death
>the best thing going for Arknights is their world building
>put Endfield on a literal different planet with none of that
>make the characters designs "Genshin esque"
>males like Hellugar lost all their muscle and facial hair
>sick ass designs like the Nachzehrer become "cutesy anime" ala Last Rite
>starter zones are generic and small
>other zones are just more "not china" zones
I honestly feel like they could have just rereleased Arknights as an actual 3D game and it would have been infinitely better.

Can someone explain to me whats holding back video games from having large zones? WoW was held together with paper clips and duct tape and had thousands of players 22 years ago and the entire game art and all was designed by 50 people. Decades later and teams of hundreds or thousands struggle to make anything

Like imagine Chernobog or Lungmen or Victoria with grand scale
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>>736522089
of all the things to complain about, large open world slopzones is not something the game needs
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>>736500514
Instead of making Arkknights 3D they made a Genshin Impact: Factorio edition.
Doesn't help that the Genshin part is much worse than Genshin and the factorio part is obnoxious and shallow.
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>>736500514
Gee i fucking wonder why
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>>736521197
I don't even play 2 now, I felt like a real retard repeating the dailies again after closing my first game
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>>736522619
That's fair. I just play casual and don't log in every day. I don't swipe either. If I miss a character, so be it. Once a week is enough to do all the events.
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>>736520636
Least obvious kurobot
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>>736520636
>>736520636
The easiest way to tell this is disingenuous seething at hoyo is not having genshin by far #1 in ost. You lack a human soul if you can't recognize the enormous effort both in composition and in commissioning top tier musicians, including traditional musicians and orchestras, for an enormous catalog of what is the closest thing to good modern classical music in gaming.

And before you call me a hoyoshill or some gay cope, I think zzz should be dead last since its ost is rancid trash and I enjoyed pgr's ost a lot more than any of the other more "modern" electronic music osts on that list.
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>>736500514
The fact is no one gives a shit about Endfield.
>Go to their official youtube channel
Guess which 2 of these videos aren't part of the mass marketing ad campaign.
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>>736515287
Square Enix had a chance at this, but they put out Dissidia Final Fantasy Duellum instead.
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>>736513647
too many dragon ball threads
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>>736523528
genshin music is just mmorpg music bro
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>>736500514
Star Savior came out and stole its lunch money and aura.
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>>736523528
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>>736523528
Genshin ost is the most generic shit ever bro
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>>736522374
Depends on the game. If one of your defining game features is factorio-style building, then having small zones is fucking retarded. Besides
>don't complain if it's not large open world slopzones
>it's small slopzones instead
Wow, thanks for nothing.
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>>736523528
Genshin's variety is just lacking while the others in the list ahead of it can and will do completely different genres. Both Nikke and Arknights have dabbled in so many different musical genres that it's outright impressive which is why also both games went to establish a music label.
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>>736500514
They're spending way too much time and money trying to buy the game's popularity, instead of just making it good enough for it to be organically popular

Endfield is probably the most egregious case of sponsorship I've ever seen. Nothing but glazing from streamers and ccs for like 4-8 weeks and then radio silence from all of them - none of them stream it anymore, none of them make content on it anymore. As soon as the money dried up they don't give a fuck. All that money could have instead been used on making the game better, or eating the initial cost of a more generous start. But they blew it on marketing with these shitholes instead
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>>736515708
It took almost 15 years for a skyrim successor
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>>736526069
>and then radio silence from all of them
Even if you wanted to keep making content for the game, there is legit nothing going on. There was a massive content drought after release that basically killed all the hype.
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>>736526270
Even this patch is content drought. Here is a story quest that is a couple of hours long and then here is a couple of companion quests as well, so 6-8 hours of new content that is meant to keep people interested for the next 40 days.
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>>736503293
Just look at the replies to this post and you will understand why Paimon has to repeat everything in-game.
Genshin players are retarded.
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>>736513647
saying KWAB has been ruined by jeets and SEAniggers since it's obvious they watch rasslin, and it's obvious they'll say this shit with vtumors, gachashit, or anything tribalistic.
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>>736500514
Curiously it got lots of people interested in OG Arknights. A couple friends of mine are now playing AK just because they liked Endfield lore and world setting
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>>736526270
That's what I'm saying.
Instead of blowing millions on some grifting streamers why not further invest that into the dev cost of the game to have a better game with more to do. Its just a wasted
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Well, it's fucking boring. The factory aspect is just set & forget until they add more shit to pile on, the tower defense stuff is lamely tacked on and all that's left is an empty world with nothing to do except 2 minutes of dailies.

Don't need that kind of boring chore in my life. Arknights Classic Original is 9001x better.
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>>736524868
>>736524729
>Every musical genre before the second half of the second half of the 20th century sounds the same and is the same genre.

I'm too tired to be disappointed anymore, I'm just sad that people like this exist.



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