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The game forces me to do math what the fuck. I'm here to game and not be a scientist. Can someone help me with this?
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>game forces you to do gay puzzles without your consent
And that's why we use ChatGPT.
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come on sis this is pre-algebra shit
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>>736505570
anon you just multiply 6 by x to the power of 2, then subtract 17 multiplied by x, then add 12. this is literally third grade math. you are dumber than an elementary schooler.
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>>736505570
Are you genuinely retarded? There's at least three ways to solve it.

>divide both sides by 6 and then FOIL
>move all the Xs to one side
>plug the numbers in and see if they work
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>>736505827
>you just multiply 6 by x to the power of 2, then subtract 17 multiplied by x, then add 12
Sorry but that shit just sounds like schizobabble to me. And no way anyone in 3rd grade is doing that.
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>>736505798
>polynomials = pre-algebra
"No!"
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>it's another "anons look up the formula and pretend they always knew so they could feel smarter" episode
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>>736505570
haha welcome to 2026 retard
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>>736505570
Oh this is easy, just try an answer, and reload if you get it wrong.

Math not required.
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>>736505985
>no way anyone in 3rd grade is doing that.
In America
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>>736505798
I forgot the fucking quadratic formula fuck you I already locked all that knowledge away as a traumatic experience.
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>>736505936
>divide both sides by 6 and then FOIL
You can't divide 17 with 6 tho...
>move all the Xs to one side
What'd that do? So now I just have the 0 on the other side? That's stupid.
>plug the numbers in and see if they work
I want to earn it.
>>736506070
H-hello... welcome to you too fren.
>>736506146
Takes too much time!
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>>736506154
Never heard of a European Harvard or Yale. Curius.
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>>736505570
why do all the answers but the last one offer two different values for x
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>>736506030
i'm staring at it but i've completely forgotten how to factor this shit. I think if you're not using the quadratic formula, don't you either split the middle value into half its value squared; or if that doesn't work, you get two numbers that when multiplied and added, give you both the second and third value? but I can't remember at all what you do after that.
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>>736505570
Eh, just move the X--
>You gotta use the +- formula
Well shit
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>>736506276
quadratic formula retard
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i remember the quadratic formula is ax^2 + bx + c but i dont remember what you're supposed to actually do with that
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>>736506305
>furrynigger coomed so hard his brain got so smooth its essentially lobotomized.
lmao, tale as old as time.
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>>736505570
Looks like it actually is idiot proof, that's surprising.
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>>736506580
you will also forget all the mathematics you learned after not using them for years
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>>736506580
nut up or shut up. I could easily just look up the quadratic formula and plug in the numbers to solve it (unless it ends up as a negative and starts getting into imaginary numbers, but I don't think the game is going to pull your dick that hard)
i'm just trying to remember how to do it without the quadratic CRUTCH
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>>736506276
The squared term introduces another possible solution to the equation :)
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>save
>pick answer
>reload if wrong
Imaging being a smarttard and wasting time on m*th
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>3 xs in the question
>each solution only offers value for 2 xs
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>>736506725
oh yeah
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>>736506421
delta=bˆ2-4ac
if delta>0, the solutions are (-b+-sqrt(delta))/2a
if delta<0 the solutions are complex, it's the same thing but there'll be an "i" in front of the sqrt.
if delta=0 you'll only have one solution.

then again I would probably just pick a random answer and quicksave+quickload until i get it right here. it'd be annoying since you're dealing with weird fractions here and I'd need to write something down to find the solutions.
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Guys... you know you can just look up the answer right?
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>>736506205
>gachaposters are retarded
Curious.
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>>736506891
I don't want to, I already did all my advanced calculus and physics courses I don't want to remember unless strictly necessary.
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>>736505570
it's pretty clearly the first one. answers 2 and 3 are identical; assuming that only one of the choices is correct, you can nix those two immediately. answer 4 implies that there's just one root, which is possible, but you can just insert x=1 and see by inspection that it's clearly false - thus it is the first one. no quadratic formula necessary
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>>736506709
Isn't the answer to these usually the odd one out thoughbeit?
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6x^2 + 17x - 12 = 0
36x + 17x - 12 = 0
36x + 17x = -12
53xx = -12
53x = -12/x
x = -12/53x
x^2 = -12/53
x = -12/2809
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well i could look up the quadratic formula again, but it would be a lot faster to just quicksave and pick an answer, then load and try again until you get the right one. it's only 4 choices.
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>>736507192
based
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>>736507192
leonhard fucking euler over here. next you're gonna prove the riemann hypothesis
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>>736507253
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>>736507192
>doesn't even change the sign of 12
I kneel....
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pathetic.
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>>736507086
I'm gonna find you and kill you, Albert Einstein. You are supposed to be dead, you are no better than normal people. YOU MUST DIE JUST LIKE ALL OTHER PEOPLE.
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You should be able to solve this.
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>>736507416
>implying that people have 17^2 memorized
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>>736507449
I don't even know what the problem is.
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>>736505570
>6x^2 - 17x + 12 = 0 | x
>0 | x
x = 0, easy peasy
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>>736507449
These are just a bunch of music notes. What are you supposed to do with them?
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>>736507449
>musicslop
No thank you.
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>>736507449
Now this is cringe levels of slop puzzle. Do they really expect regular gamers to know cryptographic puzzles to break a code? At least when they did that shit in Pokémon Emerald with Braille they included the alphabet.
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>>736506205
>You can't divide 17 with 6 tho...
Yes, you can. It's two and five-sixths.
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>>736507514
use a fucking calculator
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>>736507514
why would you need it memorized? do you not know how to do multiplication?
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>>736507679
Now its even more complicated!
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>>736505570
If you assume that there is only one answer, two of them are the same, and one of them boils down to 18 - 17.
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>>736506421
Thats a 2nd order polynomial, not the quadratic formula
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>>736507514
17^2 = (10+7)^2 = 10*10 + 2 * 7 * 10 + 7 * 7 = 100 + 140 + 49 = 289
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>>736507603
maybe somehow connects to a numbering system? 137121? Is that it?
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You have never used the quadratic formula outside work. Never.
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>>736507718
if i had a calculator, i would just use the built-in polynomial solver
>>736507723
if i were going through the effort of employing pen and paper, i would just manually check the proposed roots
>>736507818
this is admittedly pretty wise. i think most people could do this in their head
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>>736507603
this is the full puzzle, the values are different because it's randomly generated per playthrough
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>>736505570
Why the fuck does it have two values for X? You're not solving for roots, are you?
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>>736507192
Black science man tier math.
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>>736508015
>17^2
>pen and paper
this is trolling isnt it
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I have a masters degree in physics and can't remember how to solve this. All those years of education truly were just a means to get a piece of paper that says I can have a job because everything I learned is long gone.
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>>736507514
You can do that in your head goblino. I'm sorry, you would be able to do that if you weren't brown.
170+ 70 + 49 = 289.
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>>736505570
there's no valid reason to manually do math in 2026, maybe it was useful when you needed to calculate where a bomb would drop in WW1 and shit but we have computers to do that now
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>>736508221
and the stupid piece of paper doesn't even get you a job anymore
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>>736508094
>>736508246
i don't think i could trust myself to do that multiplication and keep it in my head... like yes i could do 17 x 10 + 10 x 7 + 7 x 7 but i wouldn't trust myself to shoot 100% on it when i could just skip the whole process by doing something of this >>736507086 sort. in my defense all of the math classes i take now are in the calc-sphere so 99% of my calculations are symbolic anyhow
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>>736505570
pls someone tell me what i did wrong it's been years
i'd still go with B because number match :)
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>>736508020
I don't get it. I know exactly what those intervals are and could recognize them in the notes listed on the left if needed (for example AbA is a minor second I believe) but I don't see how that would give you a solution. And I have no idea what you're supposed to use the octave keys for.
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>>736505570
just put that screen shot into grok retard kun
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>>736508561
...what the fuck am i even looking at here
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>>736505570
Who the fuck uses fractions these days?
4/3, 3/2
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>>736505570
I'm literally an engineer and I forgot 99% of the math stuff I learned in school because I just don't use it.
Likewise, we're not writing novel algorithms for anything, like ever, and if we need one there's a 99% chance someone already had a similar enough problem that they solved it decades ago.
So what's the fucking point?
In the event that I can't access computers then I can't do my job anyway. I never enjoyed the math aspect of my career either. Nothing of value was lost. Except precious years of my youth wasted on learning this shit I never needed after passing the exam.
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>>736508794
it looked like a trinomial so my instinct was to factor it. i did that by multiplying ac and then finding what two numbers you could use to both multiply into 72 and add to -17 (which is -8 and -9)

I then had a quadranomial which I factored into a binomial by factoring out GFCs and then grouping what I had left
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>>736508561
you didn't do anything wrong. You just aren't "done" yet. Just divide the first factor by 2 and the second factor by 3 and multiply everything by 6 (since you divided everything by 6 beforehand), 6(x-3/2)(x-4/3), which means the solutions are 3/2 and 4/2.
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>>736506421
Honestly, hardest part of this was remembering what it was called to look it up for this pic
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>>736509048
*4/3, my bad
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>>736509048
>got it wrong
FUUUUUUUUCK FUCK FUCK
thank you for the clarification.
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>>736508983
actually this makes sense and i think you're right. i just got confused by the wacky brackets (should be more like [6x^2 - 8x] - [9x + 12]). also i have no idea what sort of relevance 6 x 12 = 72 has to this problem
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>>736505570
>this thread
Has anyone ever visited /sci/?
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>>736509254
Why would we? Maths is not a science
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>>736509318
>maths
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>>736509254
Yes. It's a gay board.
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>>736509459
Ironically, using that meme outs you as a redditor
And recognising such outs me as one too :)
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>>736509608
that's a twitter meme thoughbeit
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without doing the math i can tell by looking at it that the answers are somewhere between one and two. there's only one viable option.
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>>736505570
You don't even need to solve it properly since it's a multiple choice question. Literally just test which one works. Hell. You don't even need to test since 2 of the options are the same and one has the same number twice.
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this makes me realize as a 40 year old how much knowledge I've lost after decades of not doing anything with math skills I learned in high school / college at all.

I don't remember how to solve anything like this and I feel very dumb
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>>736505985
>basic math
>schizobabble
/v/ never ceases to amaze
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>>736510407
I struggled with it fair bit too and I relearned this stuff like a year ago. it's just a fact of life that unless you have an eidetic memory (which 99.99% of people don't), you're going to lose what you don't use. the upside is that relearning it will be easier than learning it for the first time.
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>>736509105
ts was the easiest math shit in school, you didn't even have to remember anything just put in the numbers
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>>736505570
tell me that's a mod that replaces that dogshit hacking minigame with math
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>>736510458
if your math involves letters you can't call it "basic"
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>>736510876
Anon...pre-algebra has small shit like variables that's extremely basic
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>>736510407
its almost like the vast majority of schooling is completely fucking pointless and has absolutely no bearing or relevance for life outside of school
i firmly believe we could cut school down to 1/3rd of its current time and have a population that was just as capable (or incapable i might say since most people are fucking retards)
all you really need are:
reading
writing
basic arithmetic, MAYBE some VERY basic algebra, im talking like 5 + x = 12 type shit
some recent history, like only shit within the past 200 years at most
how to drive
how to do taxes
how to get a job
how to not use a credit card for anything ever
MAYBE a foreign language if you wanna be fancy
JOB DONE
it shouldnt take 12 fucking years
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>>736510983
if your "math" can't be done in one of these its not basic lil bro
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>>736510876
>american "education"
fucking lol
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>>736505570
>he can't do quadratic equations
ngmi
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>>736511004
>its almost like the vast majority of schooling is completely fucking pointless and has absolutely no bearing or relevance for life outside of school
The point of Algebra is to teach children about abstract and logical thought processes. There's a reason why the teacher tells you to "show your work", the process matters more than the answer.
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it's easy enough to not be interesting, while also not easy enough to be solved instantly unless you do polynomials all day for your dayjob

genuinely a terrible puzzle, but
>bethesda
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>>736507192
>6x^2 + 17x - 12 = 0
>36x + 17x - 12 = 0
>36x + 17x = -12
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>>736511118
it's an edited image for easy (You)s Anon
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>>736511215
i stand by everything i said
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>>736505570
why does x equal so many things? how tf are you suposed to do it
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>>736511395
it's ok anon already solved it for us: >>736507192
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>>736505570
Literally not a single real world use case for this shit
What's the point
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>>736509459
what is wrong with counting. do germans count with their toes or something
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>>736511004
It definitely teaches a lot of shit nobody will ever use, but it also has the problem of classes being too short to actually teach the material. Math, for example, has teachers attempting to be as slow and careful as possible to get through the material accurately, and still eventually makes math classes optional because even getting to that point was hard.
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>>736510407
If you don't need it you don't need it
Who cares
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You should be able to solve this (for arbitrary f(x))
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>>736510407
I realized I lost it too, but by quickly ready through the thread with other anons' explanations it's easily coming back to me
that shit is easy as long as you've internalized it once, I could find a few of those problems online and grind them for a little bit and be back at my high school level in no time
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(3x - 4)(2x - 3)
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>>736507192
fucking incredible
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Can /v/ solve this?
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>>736511625
>1D heat equation with homogeneous dirichlet boundary conditions
how about you go fuck yourself instead
man am I glad I don't have to do this kinda thing anymore
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>>736511841
>>736512000
Holy shit ahahah
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>>736512000
just integrate by parts bro
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>>736512164
>black
>without using sin
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>>736512164
Is this supposed to be something to be proud of?
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>>736511097
yeah but you cant fucking teach that and im tired of pretending that you can
either someone has the ability to think abstractly and form a logical thought process or they dont. its intrinsic. weve wasted literally decades trying to pretend that niggers and other browns can be 'taught' things that come naturally to every almost every single white and asian kid on the planet, IT DOES NOT WORK and it just wastes money
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>>736506205
nigger
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>>736512360
Nta, but i think you should teach functions before anything else. Functions are the heart of logic and math
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>>736512164
I don't know why, but everything about unit circles with trig functions fucked my brain up something fierce. I probably misunderstood something fundamentally about it from the start so that entire course was me holding on for dear life solving things through pure memorization and not understanding what the fuck I was meaningfully doing.
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>>736507835
A kid did that at my school. Never did see him again after the incident.
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>>736508263
This post was made by the Submarine Force. They don't want you to know about
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>>736512594
as I recall most of my math classes barely touched on the theory right at the beginning without giving you any context for how that relates to what you're going to be doing and then immediately nosedived into rote memorization
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>>736505570
the answer is quickload
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>>736512739
lets stop pretending like kids and teenagers would actually give a shit about 'usability'. everyone likes to tout some bullshit like 'oh well half the problem is that we cant ever see how it would relate to real life'
no
full stop
even if math past arithmetic DID relate to real life in a significant way, and even if it were described in classes extensively, kids and teenagers still wouldnt give a shit. i certainly wouldn't have, if it had been done when i went through school. and the reason for that is because math is fucking boring and nobody outside of weirdos and broken autists likes it
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>>736512594
Trig is completely useless anyway, you only need Euler Identity
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>>736512853
I'm not talking about practical applications, being able to build a coherent mental model of what you're doing is extremely helpful in learning
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>>736512949
Physics helps a lot on that
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>>736508020
I know my share of music theory and do not understand what the puzzle is asking me to do. Why are there sixteen numbers listed for the keys? Is it just a double octave? I have to be missing an obvious connection.
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>>736513091
it's more a cryptography puzzle than really being about music theory. the interval keys are offsets for the octave keys or something
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>>736513238
what an evil puzzle
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>>736512045
just separate the variables :)
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>>736505570
this has to be a mod, i don't remember this and i doubt 90% of the playerbase could do this
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>>736505570
Last one is clearly wrong. Middle two are the same answer. By process of elimination top one has to be correct.
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>>736513586
how is the last one clearly wrong?
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>>736506305
I took college advanced calc over a decade ago, I never used that shit and a few months ago I was doing some programing thing and forgot how to even divide large whole numbers on paper
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>>736513653
It's very simple to plug in x = 1 into the equation. 6-17+12 = 1, a calculation absolutely trivial to do in your head.
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>>736513692
i passed linear algebra 7 years ago and i had to look up how to multiply fractions the other day
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>>736514461
>charge in amp
lol
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>>736512334
name one real world use
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>I haff twelve matchsteek
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>negative b plus or minus the square root of b minus four a c, all over 2 a
I memorised this in high school on a whim, and then it became a kind of mantra that I repeat in my head when I'm not sure if I'm suffering from brain damage or losing my memory
It's been about 18 years and I still do this
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>>736507449
Fuck this I'm shooting the jogging manchild. Lemuria can go fuck itself.
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>>736514461
I'll have a go
First try I was doing some retard shit trying to work backwards from 1600, subtracting 128, then I reread the question
>b1 + b2 + b3 = 1600
>b1 + (b3 + 128) + b3 = 1600
>2b3 + b3 + 128 + b3 = 1600
>4b3 + 128 = 1600
>4b3 = 1472
>b3 = 1472 / 4 = 368
>b2 = b3 + 128
>b2 = 368 + 128
>b2 = 496
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>>736515521
FUCK YOU
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>>736515857
yeah you got it right. I treated it as a system of equations question and tried substituting but fucked up
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>>736508561
>using the factors of the a and c coefficients to find the components of the b coefficients
Does this actually work? I was testing by trial and error
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>>736516170
If A were 1, you can simplify this process as "what two numbers add together to make B, and times together to make C".
A not being 1 means those "what two numbers" need to also multiply by any factors of A (could be 1 and 6, or 2 and 3) before adding/multiplying to make B and C.
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>>736509209
6 x 12 = 72
72 = 8 x 9
8 + 9 = 17

It's how he figured out the additive components of B.
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>>736505570
If we turn each part of the equation into a function we get
>f(x) = 6x^2
>f(x) = -17x
>f(x) = 12
Taking the derivative gives us
>f'(x) = 12x
>f'(x) = -17
On a graph 12x intercepts -17 at 1.4167. This means that for all x values greater than 1.4167, (6x^2 -17x) becomes increasingly more positive while between 0 and 1.4167 the outcome is more negative. At x = 1 the outcome is -11 which isn't negative enough. So x has to be bigger than 1 but smaller than 1.4167.
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>>736512594
>Complete deadbeat at school
>Start playing garrys mod
>Get into wiremod and E2
>Holograms are really cool
>Make little things move around with holograms
>Hmm I'm going to make a little person today
>How do I shot legs???
>Figure out that if you use the sin function in the X and cos in the Z (no fucking clue what either of these are at the time) and multiply the values by the length of the leg they end up in the right place, magically, and the rotation of the leg just needs to be sort of the same value as what you plug into the sin
>That's really fucking cool
>Want to give them knees
>But where the hell does the knee go?????
>Take the distance between the foot and the hip, get half.. Now just how far to offset it...
>Start playing with all the trig functions until magically its in just the right place
>Now just use the previous black magic to make the upper leg point at the knee, and the lower leg point from the knee to the foot
>Kinematic equations acquired!!!
>Do same thing for the arms
>Wait why the fuck does everything fuck up when I look straight up and straight down...
>Behold the great satan and know his name; Gimbal Lock.
>What the fuck
>Someone suggests I try using quaternions
>No idea what these are but I just treat them like a small angle and multiply them by a big number and they pass the axis without exploding
>It just works

I don't remember how to greentext its been too long but TL;DR the way they teach maths is shit for kids. Chuck a classroom in garrysmod and they'd teach themselves and eachother in three months a decade's worth of maths curriculum. Especially if they had a teacher to just walk over and point out what they're doing is actually XYZ maths thing and explain how it works and why it works.
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>>736518163
congrats, you figured out what we all know and yet dont want to admit
school is retarded and only served a limited purpose back when we didnt have computers
shoutout to all math teachers who kept telling you "you wont always have a calculator in your pocket"
nope, I have fkn photo math, typing is not even necessary at this point

also a big
>ditto
on learning via games, was quiet funny when I realized in IT high school,
that I learned logic gates via Minecraft years ago
>picrel
is still in some drawer here
https://redstone.fandom.com/wiki/T_Flip-Flop

most school classes are retarded.
instead of learning to drive, cook, do your taxes and whatnot.
you learn how nazis are bad and that you can calculate tons of circle related things with pi.
beyond rule of three and some other elementary shit, you wont ever need anything else again.
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I didn't pay attention in math class
I can't even do basic addition without counting with my fingers
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>>736519298
that other link doesnt even have the sticky piston one that I made back then

https://redstone.fandom.com/wiki/Basic_Circuitry
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>>736517215
Why do people confidently post something factually wrong like this?
Like, ignoring the entire math here, just the final statement
>So x has to be bigger than 1 but smaller than 1.4167
Literally could not be true as it does not match even one of the answers provided. It does match 4/3 but not the accompanying 3/2, and all others it does not.
So why post it when it literally could not be right?
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>>736506030
did no one teach you retarded niggers BEDMAS? its literally designed to be simple and easy to remember lol
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>>736511496
It shows where a parabola intersects the line.

>>736511395
There are two Xs because the parabola intersects the line in two places, like a ball going up and falling back down in a regular arc, landing somewhere other than where it got thrown from.
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>>736505570
Yeah honestly I've completely forgotten how to do math. Kinda sad this is how I found out.
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>>736506205
>Takes too much time
It would've taken less than posting and monitoring this shit thread



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