>ruins your runVakuu is the worst ancient. He only has 1 good option
>have Bing Bong>Vakuu offers me Lord's ParasolI'm gonna win this run, I can feel it.
>>736510061I have never won a run after taking parasol. The only proper option is the free power. No downside.
get insteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241125543139/76561198174500842
>>736510464I had Fiddle and x2 machine learning once. Drawing 9 cards a turn was pretty neat.
>>736509878I like this relic. It's funny and it increases energy, so it's good.
Note to self:rage doesn't work with hellraiser, it's like the sixth run where you took it just to be a brick you fucking retard.
does this fucking retard just counter every single deck in the game?
>>736511338hmm
>>736511415No, just 99% of themHit F2 and enjoy yourself
>>736511415they keep buffing him because people with 5000 hours think its too easy
>>736511338>>736511440Surely you have other non-strike attacks?
bros. i just got the dream combo. i already won
>>736511415Looks like Acrobatics into Reflex+ to me anon, what's the issue? :^)
>>736511478What does F2 do?>>736511534I've had this combo but I keep forgetting to use the potions.I am stuck in a "I will save this for when I need it" mindset and end the run with full unused potions.
>>736511518Yeah I got BASH
I just got the game, should I play on the beta branch or standard branch? I got like 150 hours in slay the spire 1.
>>736511658beta for updates + balance + more art
>>736511594Opens a dialog where you can send feedback to the developers
I was gonna play the regular build until I hit A10 on everyone but I'm seriously considering going on the beta just because I'm fucking sick of playing unbuffed Regent
>>736511686>balanceKEK
>>736511750Regent is the main reason I went on beta. I still don't like him but at least I can sometimes win.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241127263324/76561198006996325BETALET'S FUCKING GO.
You know ironclad sucks when the runs you win are mostly because of cards from other characters/colorless cards
>>736509878>Have a good 3 energy card as imbued>he plays it first every turn>Doesn't have the remaining energy left to make bad plays besides a 1 cost attack or somethingWorks for me
>>736511415I've literally never lost to himIs this some bullshit in the beta branch?
>>736511594you're right. my deck is already so strong i barely use them
>>736512018in the latest update he make all cards exhaust when you play them. prohibit you from drawing cards. and he takes 1 energy from you every time you play a card. all while hitting for 30 every turn
>>736512058>6 potion slots>Frond
>>7365119342/4COME ON ANON
>>7365119343/4
>>736511632I fucking love hellraiser decks so much, it just turns every final boss into DRAW MONSTER CARDO
>>736512185>*opens door*
>>736512018Yeah he's really bad in the beta branch, he has over 400 health and switches between 3 forms all while doing 30-40 damage a turn. 1st form exhausts all cards you play, 2nd form refuses to let you draw any cards, and 3rd form makes every card you play drain 1 energy from you. It's insanely overtuned.
hating vakuu is the biggest sign of being a brainlet
>>736512018Yeah, so basically>1st turn you get a free setup turn>2nd turn, every card you play exhausts and he hits you for a gorillion damage>3rd turn, you can't draw cards and he hits you for a gorillion damage>4th turn, you lose an energy every time you play a card and he hits you for a gorillion damage>repeat turns 2 thru 4 until either you or he is dead (most likely you)
>>736511934>>736512140>>736512174ONEMOREBRAVENAGGER
Why would anyone not take Apotheosis when presented with it? Even if half your deck is upgraded it's STILL worth it to upgrade the other half.
>>736512112Applied over multiple turns? Normally I just kill him on turn 3
>>7365123522 energy is ruff, 1 energy when upgraded can still be costly depending on your build. It's great, don't get me wrong, but if your important cards are upgraded other options can be better. Sometimes the fat bitch spoils you for choice.
>>736512352Because +1 energy for 3 daze is like nothing.
brilliant scarf working wonders with playing expensive necro cards. retain in general just busted, floor 14 question mark event let me imbue borrowed time and dirge with retain giving me on demand block/energy and easy combos. fasten+ and happy flower was bought with greed money, the extra big defends make setting up the flower for the next fight risk free. transfigure had multiple viable targets every hand but in the doormaker fight it got upgraded by drain power which let me continually transfigure Times Up for lethal with only 60~ doom applied and with reaper form already in play it compounded itself. considering picking up snap for retain utility more often now in future runs maybe
he needs to come back
>>736512352Because I don't need it.
>>736512394>i normally just do like 600 damage in 2 turnswith what decks exactly? on which ascension?
>>736512436Well obviously if I'm playing Status Defect as I seem to do every run I'd windmill slam that shit because that's an upside AND an upside.
>>736512286Based Vakuu appreciator.Haters can go to the sts reddit. On this board Vakuu is a hero.
>>736512465>he doesn't know
>>736512458Scarf is crazy underrated.
>>736512563>doubles your clawsThank you, Vakuu.
Someone host a beta branch lobby
>>736512352My deck is usually small enough that it's basically a dead draw, since I've already upgraded all of the relevant cards.
>>736512485Any that's infinite or just gets a fuck ton of card advantage. That I remember I've done it with shivs, sovereign blade, thunder and osty between ascents 6 and 8.
>>736512691Music Box is a bad relic in a lot of decks but when it pops off it's fucking sickHold these Comets Queen
>>736512715Might wanna start getting used to bigger decks, non-beta bro.
>>736512691>5 campfires in act 1 as DefectYou were truly blessed
>>736510558>named "based">buys Beacon of Hope and immediately upgrades itdid kojima write this?
this just made my discard deck FUCK
>>736509878Won every round I pick those up but it's usually because I can get away with that.
>>736512751>Any that's infinite or just gets a fuck ton of card advantage.neither of those work against his exhaust on phase 2 or anti-draw on turn 3. So which decks are you "usually" doing this with?
It’s kinda impressive how they manage to make Doormaker worse every single time they change him.
>>736509878>what is jeweled mask
>>736513392>devs pander to the 0.01% sweatsMany such cases. Sad!
>>736512691>1 elite totalI hate that this is basically the optimal strategy for ascension 9+.
>>736513392He was fine just before the last dogshit update. The third phase not letting you play any cards is a kick in the nuts. Even if your deck one shots the other act 3 bosses you'll still lose HP and need to use potions against this faggot no mater what you're playing.
>>736512791Even with the increased cost of card remove, its still rare that my deck is any bigger than 20-25 cards. I can go without 3 more block or damage on my filler cards, all that matters is that my win condition card(s) are easier to draw and pull off.
>>736513521It's optimal for StS2 in general. Elites hit too hard and too frequently. Millipede can go fuck himself.
What would you do?
>>736513569I do agree the change is gay but you can usually go ham on the second exhaust turn and it won't matter
>>736513683depends on a deck and how far is the merchant
>>736513604A late in the act elite is better than most of the late hallway fights in act 2 or 3
Instead of Doormaker shitting on decks relying on a specific card, they made him shit on EVERY type of deck :-D
>>736513521Sometimes you get a couple of key cards early and can path into a bunch of them and elite, but yeah they're often best avoided.
bow to the king
>>736513683it's a4, be greedy, take the gold, you can't die anyway
The only phase where doormaker is cancer is the third one with the energy shitJust make the first 2 cards of the turn cost 1 more. The current iteration is too fucking much.
>>7365138073 floors away
someone host
>>736513929Let me guess, Necrobinder
What did they mean by this?
>>736511415why bother playing against the OP beta version that will never make it into the live game?
>>736513929I drank the poison that makes me lose 4hp at the start of encounters right before the last camp then didn't lose hp, no fair.
>>736513929bro your ascension? your version? your build and character?
>>736514045every other balance change that isn't THAT shit (and maybe the harsh remove cost increase) makes the game better
I'm fine with Doormaker's gimmicks but I can't fucking believe they let him attack every single turn. Did they just forget to give him a downtime phase? Every other boss has one.
>>736514045it's okay if you want to play the easier game
>>736514078>bro your ascension? your version?it takes some serious effort to be this retardedplease say you're just pretendingplease
I wish this event had an option to refuse because I have never wanted either of these cards, but I got this on a chad strength pumping run last night and Holy fuck it just deleted everything.
>finally decide im gonna buy 2 because the game looks like it rewards fun builds like infinites unlike the first game>e-celebs on Xitter complain the game is too easy and needs to be balanced around things that can hard counter your deck because that apparently is the "fun" theyre looking forI want my money back
>>736514078
>>736509878Are you a spear or a shield guy, for me its the particle wall, a special card only available to regent which costs 2 stars per use but returns to your hand, forget 3 for free with the sealed throne you get back 1 energy off of every use, with convergence you get to keep it for next turn as well and become fucking invincible.>But if you are only blocking then how can you attackThe card black hole lets you do damage whenever you spend or gain stars, because sealed throne always gives you stars back you can hit for twice the damage, and even gatekeeper can't handle two big gaping black holes
>>736514248This thing is amazing on act 2. Those carapace bugs? Fuck outta here. It's even decent against millipede.
>>736512967>master planner>hidden gemsit's discardin' time
>>736514305Yeah, I meant to say that I hadn't ever wanted either of these cards until now. The only one is still only a better bash, but this one is crazy if you have any strength.
>Failing run after run>Runs blend together>Have decent run>Misclick and take this pathAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
GG sorry guys i played Hellraiser at some point by accident and the turn just didnt end it just kept chaining ashen strikes i meant to just end it so you can have some fun aswell
>>736514447I'm much the same. Last run the game gave me this event straight into carapace bugs just to prove a point.
regent is fun
>>736514143I'm playing the real game. It's ok if you want to play fanfic that will get scrapped.
>>736514478what the fuck is that path
>>736514305>Akabeko>Pen nib>MarblesSometimes the game makes you want to cum
STS2 has a scaling issue. its just too damn easy once you're in act 2
>>736514478>We have improved map generation. Pray we do not improve it any further.
>>736514248I got this after getting an early feeding frenzy and it carried my entire a10 run.
I used to hate snecko in sts1, not cuz it was weak, but precisely cause I felt it was too strongBut damn if I didnt miss it.
>>736514632You are legally not allowed to discuss balance until you have beaten ascension 10 with ironclad
>>736514702you need so much to make snecko work these days. Since your deck naturally has to be filled with 1 cost cards Snecko just becomes an extremely rare treat
>>736512751>Any that's infinitedoesn't exist if your cards exhaust every time you play them
So I was wrong about cruelty, it's actually bigger piece of shit than I assumed based on wording(assume it worked as it's worded even though I've used it before).But I was correct in trackingvuln + Cruelty+1.5 + 0.5 = 2 damage multipliervuln + paper phrog + Cruelty+1.5 + 0.25 + 0.5 = 2.25 vuln + paper phrog + Cruelty+ + Cruelty+will be 1.5 + 0.25 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 2.75and for tracking tracking alone1 * 2 = 2vuln + tracking 1.5 * 2 = 3vuln + tracking + tracking1.5 * 2 * 2 = 6
>>736514286>coffer and frond>gambler chip with slylentgood shit anon
They need to remove Meteor Strike from the game. Orb decks just aren't viable with Defrag going to rare and Hotfix being nerfed. Ain't nobody picking Chaos as a value card.
>>736514776It looks like it missed me too.
>>736514536Tell 'em, nothing wrong with a nice relaxing easy run, anon. These beta bois have been getting uppity.
>>736512352because the choice isnt apotheosis or nothing, its apotheosis or another solid option, and if apotheosis isnt needed then its probably worse
>>736514717Now that we've established that I'm qualified to discuss STS2 balance, I would nerf all of the Sly cards, and give Venerate 4(6) block. I would also make the Soul Nexus actually do something, and turn the Waterfall boss into a regular, smaller-scale hard pool hard fight. I would move the Smog monster to Act 2, and implement a scaling-required boss a la The Champ in Act 2.
>>736514478god almightyhow the hell are you still alive
>>736511415>39 card deck>either played <10 cards that exhaust on turn 6 or got 0 powers over 3 actsWhat were you doing on turns 2 and 5? Just play your deck it doesn't really matter.
>>736514969>.99Not so fast!
>>736514969Giving Venerate block would make Regent broken, that's a shit suggestion. It's already a card worth upgrading for cycling Comet
>>736509878>vakuu plays my turn>it's a better turn than i would've playedfuck
>>736515062God help us all if block got tacked onto cards that would be decent without it.
>>736515135You would never pay 1 energy for Lightning Rod without block
>>736515135this is sts 2, every card in the game should have tacked on block to survive bullshit enemies throw at you
>>736514478fuck dude you found act 4
God DAMN snecko chill.
>>736515227just get adroit?
>>736515061You'll note the date, anon-kun.
I basically exclusively play multiplayer with 4 total people so my idea of the balance is pretty skewed. It's probably why the people who unironically try to defend Snakebite sound insane to me. That shit does not fly when the average enemy has 200+ HP.
>>736515248Did you use CE Anon
>>736515002BURNING BLOOD SON
>>7365151721 energy to trickle out 2 lightning orbs wouldn't be the end of the world considering payoffs for lightning orbs exist in the form of focus, Voltaic, and Thunder. And they passively deal damage so like idk.
>>736512286>No good card draw? Too much garbage in the deck? Want random bullshit? Feel like ruining your run for the lolz? I gotchu fampai.He's so based.
>>736515308Snakebite is GOOD
>>736514914>Ain't nobody picking Chaos as a value card.Bitch I had a run last night with a friend and I had Imbued Chaos+ duped by Dolly's Mirror and it was fun
>mfw the hero can see right through all my plans
>>736515308You can block for days on Silent and it's a one stop shop for damage. Enemies are too weak right now which makes Footwork/After Image way too strong. Nothing can really kill you so if you centralize your damage in Snakebite you can keep your deck lean and keep looping into your good stuff.
>>736514858Yeah but Ironclad has the big bonksSilent has the sissy pokes
>>736515302Beta's been out for weeks, you've had plenty of time to update your credentials, anon. I'm afraid they've expired.
Doesn't 4x Doom Necro just break multiplayer?
Hosting!steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241131956692/76561199486452220
>>736515135Playing this card twice should make you summon two lightning orbs a turn, not summon one per for four turns. Holy fuck I was mad when I found out
don't wanna play main branch cause the maps are filled to the brim with hallway fights and you're forced into 5+ every act, and the events seem to RNG into fights like 40% of the time instead of 10%don't wanna play beta branch cause they made goatse even worseI think it's time for a break
>>736515750Yeah they should stack separately like multiple instances of The Bomb desu.
>>736515714Some enemies get 40 artifact in 4 player multiplayer
>>736515714Only if you find No Escape, otherwise there's not really any synergy
>>736515057it was a body slam silent deck. i couldnt cycle during the non exhaust turns, and i couldnt play one of my two body slams during the exhaust turn.
>>736515794>play two bombs>it now explodes after 6 turnskino
>>736515418It's fine. Not good but having it sit in your hand while waiting for an opportunity to play it is where it is most of the time. Needs to be way more than 7(10) poison though. Maybe 10(15)
>>736511934GGs, just in time.
GG's, everybody popped off and it was a satisfying Dickmaker kill.Fuck that boss.NOW ONTO MY MEETING
>streamer man plays slay the spire 2>constantly refers to winrate increases and decreases for every card pick or event choice>agonizes over how to play every turn>talks through 500 iterations of plays and takes forever to commit>still loses to a bad hand draw RNG despite all the hemming and hawing Yea so I'm not not watching sts2 streams ever again.
>>736515750>>736515794F2 and post it to MegaCrit
>>736516009Which streamerman?
>>736516049I doubt they'd do it just because Defect seems in generally a good spot right now, and especially after the recent major Voltaic nerf.
>>736516009erm the streamer i'm watching never losesalso he spends the whole run complaining about everything being too easy and designed for retards
>>736516164you are my most loyal viewer thanks anon
>>736516157I forget. He had a euro accent of some kind.
>played every frantic escape I saw>got eaten by the wormthat's one way to lose a fun humidier+decisions run
>>736515418i saw this faggot rare start with a bullet time and beat a10 with a deck full of snakebites
>>736516009I watch him because he constantly glazes both games as the greatest gift God has given to gamers but he plays like someone that has never touched the game before then goes on schizophrenic tangents and tirades for multiple minutes and then jobs because he picked a card that had no synergy with the deck but glazes it to end then pivots to a Shiv build whenever he can.
The 4th claw was also from jackpotYou gotta be kidding me lmfao. I used up all my rng in the previous 3 acts cause snecko and jackpot have completely FUCKED me on the bosses. .
>>736516441NL is the greatest because hes not entertaining in his gameplay, but by all the mindless tangents and garbage he spews that's just purely entertaining on its own.
>>736516009i bet you watched jorbs. he's a giant faggot
>>736516441I love when someone tells him something objectively true about his gameplay and he just goes off on a tangent and starts insulting them lmao. Like one guy called him out for exhausting all the cards that made up his deck engine and he just started shitting on him for being Brazilian and told him he had no idea what he was talking about it's funny as fuck.
>>736516747That's his whole gimmick. He shits on his chat constantly.
>>736516747>>736516441he has narcissistic traits and insists upon himself. he says stuff not because he wants to tell you something, he says it because he wants to show you he knows about it.
>>736516842he says things to fill airtime. after 15 years hes just saying shit for the sake of it
>>736516842Aren't all streamers narcissists?
>>736516747His chat is actually funny sometimes too, they manage to make him crash out despite him claiming hes the one doing it to them. When he talked about the Dinner with Jay-Z or money hypothetical and started getting more and more worked up by the chat after claiming theyre getting lost in the details too much as he proceeds to do just that.
>>736514702I still haven't played a single snecko run. I'm sad.
i often play defend instead of survivor just because it takes too long to discard a card.
>>736516842Yeah and that makes it funnier because hes totally wrong a lot of times, he literally stopped drinking Coke Zero because he read some bogus research paper saying it could cause cancer despite other info disproving said research paper. >>736516951Yes, by default they all are, even if theyre a lolcow or make a fool out of themselves.
>>736516965That time they kept telling him to get the emote add on for twitch just so they could group post emotes of monkeys pissing on him with his tongue out was actual cinema
>>736516440That's fucking funny
>>736516440Baalor's actual gameplay is often really enjoyable, it's a shame he's an insufferable hugbox fag
>>736516164That nave faggot? I've seen him bitch how the game is trivial then he went and died on silent lol.
>>736515807I really don't get the logic with that one. Is the idea to make everyone play Silent?
>>736517341no. onepunman
>>736517426Ironclad, Regent, Necro and Defect can all do massive damage without caring about artifact. It mostly hurts Silent poison builds and any build relying on vulnerable.
>>736517073I also just watched that ep and watched the Librarian vid awhile back>talks up the Defect as being fun after someone in chat says Defect sucks>loses the first run in under 10 minutes
>drew just one defend a few times in a row>almost all health gone vs the daze+9x2 guys
>>736517560>Died to the first elite on A3Kek
When are people going to realize>I drew no blockDoesn't mean>I am so unluckyBut rather means>I built a bad deck
>>736516009Baalorlord is the only StS streamer worth watching. He's kind of a fag but he actually talks through his gameplan, doesn't take forever and has a good voice, like a good teacher.
>>736517789>draw 5 blocks on the starting turn where the enemy does nothing>um le deck is bad ackshuallyok
Crazy shit.Genetic Algorithm ended up at 80 blockIt got exhausted on Doorman on the first opportunitySuch a dumb fucking fight.
>>736517994Forgot pic
>>736516009>watched one jorbs run of regent>he picked coices paradox>arsenal was a choice along with glow and some other shit>he had guards and other transform cards and could have easily got 5+ strength from arsenal>picked glow and diedyep
>>736517994the only time i ever beat beta doorman was a 200 card clone deck filled with that 0 cost deal 6 damage draw 1 card deck.
>>736517789>Ironclad>Floor 1>Take 11 damage to Seapunk turn 1 just for existingYou're right, should've built my deck better
>>736517950he's a former teacher
>>736517950better than jorbs>"wow, so that card certainly is a thing, isn't it?">"I guess I'm meant to click this card here, or something">snorts>laughs for 30 seconds for no reason in particular>"i'm glad we could do this run for trans visibility day">"yes, I died on this run after picking my fifth snakebite, and that's fine. it doesn't mean I made a mistake. if I wanted to, my winrate would be 100%. But it would just be boring"
>>736518059Its always the third phase that fucks me upThe previous iteration was fine>first phase exhaust your shitGood to set up and thin the deck. He should hit hard here to encourage you to burn your big blocks>second phase is no draw Up to luck if you get a good hand or not, more setup. should do a big multi hit here>third phase is the energy bullshitCurrent iteration is too fucking much. Previous one was fine, just have him do a 30 dmg hit instead of doing nothing here.As it stands if you aren't putting 0 cost heavy hits (there arent many) its basically the phase where YOU do nothing.
>Hellraiser deck>was never offered Pommel Strikes in the entire run>not even in shopsI don't know how I won this. Imagine not being able to play your Offering the entire fight because you either drew it during a turn when you couldn't draw more or the turn when it would have literally killed you.
>>736518213he also has over 500 hp for some reason lmao
I don't understand how to play silent and I never have.I think I got to like ascension 4 in 1 off some lucky poison decks but I don't think I've even gotten to act 3 in 2.
>>736518213I beat him on his third phase doing, funnily enough, an infinite combo with some prepared+, sly draw 3 and looping card draw with 0 cost attacks on his "wermmm -1 energy per card chud"fuck that guy
>>736518213don't forget that he debuffs your strength and dex constantly for some reason on top of all the other gimmicks. it's just strange design where the boss is trying to do everything at the same time
>>736518362tl;dr you just cheat card draw and energy and it usually works out
>>736518362You scale by playing half your deck every turn
>>736517789
>>736518362The silent likes turtling its way to the top. Take draw cards, take 0 cost block cards (deflect, escape plan), take footworks and then take your form of scaling damage, poison is the easiest, but shivs also work. Well-laid plans is probably one of the best Silent cards you can ever pick too.
It's weird going between here crying about how everything is too hard and then I play it or watch several streamers play it and I can see with my own 2 eyes it's way too easy actually. Have you guys considered getting better at the game?
Lmao 2 Accelerate+.Fun game, thanks anons
>>736518362Pick a poison card, pick a footwork, pick all the acrobatics and some backflips. Win 100%.
>>736518848I will never take capsule again, two dead relic adding two basic cards, If not for mangle and demon shields wouldn't do anything in that game
>>736518663>take 2 damageI don't see the problem here
>>736513078Self confessed skill issueMaybe don't build shit decks lmao?
>>736515135it would only be decent without block if you could upgrade it to 0 cost
Does fairy in a bottle save you from instant death at the jury event?
>>736518362silent is by far the easiest in sts2. probably because she's so similar to sts1. just draw cards
Act four should make you play all of slay the spire 1 backwards before facing the architect.
>>736519393>doesn't answer the questionI accept your concession.
>>736519569You abandon the game, so probably not
>>736519589i wish there was more sts1 in sts2.
>>736509878Is Vakuu good at the gameIs the one that lets him take your first turn any good or does he just play random cards
>>736520029He has always played sealed throne for me
>>736520029He just plays left to right until he runs out of energy or cards
Can someone link me the twitter of that guy doing the megusaki regent mod??
>>736520029He plays your cards from left to right so if you have any form of Innate they're getting played first. Also it's not so bad if you have relics that trigger turn 1 like anchor or red mask.
>>736520029He plays left to rightUsually its not a problem unless you have a bunch of Ethereal shit you don't wanna loseIf you have the tea set he's pretty good
>>736520462Unless your hand is full of skills and he buffs the shit out of the test subject
>>736520548That's just another fun challenge to overcome.
>>736518942What if you aren't presented with a single acrobatics or backflip?
lmao get howled
>>736520816They are commons I don't think that's actually possible.
>>736520548Test subject is a meme, he's only got like 100 hp
>>736520548Test subject first phase usually doesn't live long enough that its an issue
Why does this dogshit path generation always put shops at positions 3-4 and nowhere fucking else
>>736520850It literally just happened to me, I got to knowledge demon without seeing a single one of either of those and died because even with double footwork a bunch of basic defends is not enough block.
>>736520882my favorite is >early shop-hallway-shop on the path that has 0 elites
>>736520859I only play multiplayer so I wouldn't know.
When are they gonna add pvp to the multiplayer
Anyone else see the waterfall boss icon as 2 feet for the rocks, like it's someone bending over and doing a massive wet diarrhea from a gaping anus or just me?Also the crab boss looks like a vagina and butt.>>736521074The merchant potion can be used to kill your team mates.
>>736509878fiddle is overpowered and cape is gaybut music box is just kino so I assume you're talking about that
>>736519680It isn't a confession, it's a cope that you can't build decks that scale fast enough to ignore the gimmick
>thought I was good after clearing A8 after 2-3 tries>try A9, get chipped every encounter, have to rest every bonfire, always choke on the boss even with good RNG
>>736521943don't feel bad, a9 is the filter. you have new damage levels to train yourself to deal with
>>736521943welcome to the true game fag
>>736521943a10 goatse is waiting for you literally and figuratively
When is watcher coming back
zoomers are so technologically retarded they take photos of their laptop screens
>>736522042Later this year.Trust the plan
shivs were doing plenty of damage but finishing him off with a fucking rock felt right
>>736522712legendary run. went for a ? path in act 1 and got TWO ? TREASURE CHESTS right before the actual chese, giving me shuriken, vajra, and pillow. Was building sly but the game gave me a bunch of shivs after getting shuriken. Ez fucking run.
>>736522212>>736522042>samefagging as an excuse to post pornjust man up and do it without provocation like the regent cumbrain, coward
>>736522042If there is a godNever
My first A10 win and it's with Prepared + Reflex infinite. Diadem was really clutch in the card eating phase.
>Music box makes an Ethereal copy of the first attack each turn.>Bombardment plays from exhaust pile before you can attack at the start of the turn.>Void form means I can always play it.>Keep stacking Bombardment each turn.Sorry for saying you're shit Vaaku.
>>736523557Kinda funny that this was the run, cause at one point Vantom beat me up to 1hp.
>>736522042Bitch DEAD
>>736511415This motherfucker is is forcing me to undo my beta update. Every other change is an improvement but this cunt ruins it.
>>736523696You wouldn't even have to play the ethereal copy because it exhausts itself if you don't but I guess it's a freebie with void form anyway.
game kinda sux
>>736518045A lot of these top players have been polluted by tier lists. NaveGreed picked Comet over Crash Landing despite having minimal star generation engine cards while also lacking AoE outside of Astral Pulse + having Pillar, and suffered through the whole run. If Crash Landing was ever picked it would've been easy smooth sailing after Act 1.
>sweet this is going to be a smooth Act 1>bludgeon, bloodletting and flame barrier on first floors>3 fights in a row they all at the bottom of the deck>take 50+ dmg on 3 floors
Making removes cost more as it's own ascension modifier feels lame. It's too similar to reduced gold. I like the idea I would just combine it with ascension 3
>>736523557Diadem is an auto pick for me no matter what.
>Revives in X amount of turns>This is actually a lie, it is always -1 turn than said because 'dying' is the turn it revivesThis shit needs to be fixed ASAP
>grab Impervious>remove Exaust>...>winyou simply can't lose with this card
>>736525125>you simply can't lose with this card
>>736525213Did you just give me a virus?
>pick cards that I think have synergy>they're actually shit>loseEvery time
>pick lose all gold transform 2>gives me 2 copies of StokeThis is just fucking ugly...
>>736525768That's one hell of an act 1 deck.
>free energy>downside doesn't matter if you built a nice deck with energy and drawsIt does need a better selection process than going left to right and minding only energy requirements. Or just have it be random like the demon he is
>>736525768im seeing double here! four barricades!
FUCK IT WE STOKE
>>736525992It being random wouldn't change to much since your first draw order is random anyways. Guess it would matter for after draw effects or generated cards but not by that much in the end.
this is OP but adrenaline isnt?
>>736526079SHIT
>>736525768You don’t seem very stoked about it.
>>736526116It does affect things like innates and cards that are created turn 1 since those cards will be the first to get used.
>>736525730>he's thinking about synergy when Byrdonis is standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU ready to deal 7x3 Damage before you can even muster a defenseGet your affairs in order, anon. There's a time and a place.
>>736524923It gets the buff as soon as it dies. If something died and it said "revives next turn" you would expect it to get back up on its turn following you ending yours, like the obscura's summon. Why would "revives in two turns" not be one more than "revives next turn"?
>>736525768>a4>two pairs>four totalthe game is... taunting you
>>736526126Who the fuck says adrenaline isn't ok? It's always a must pick when it pops up.
>>736525213>Greedthis card works well with second wind + feel no pain
Is hidden gem the best card in the game?
A third Stoke+ has hit the tower
>>736526376Eh I've had plenty of runs where it did basically nothingNice when it hits a good target though
for FUCKS sake
>>736521943I thought I was good when I speed ran to A10 on necro. My regent is still stuck on A5
>>736526553>.99 goatse mastermy sweet summer child
i really need the devs to add holographic effects to full-art/rare cards. having full-art cards just being made out of cardboard just looks wrong.
>>736519393christ anon lol how embarassing
>>736512018Oh boy
>>736514248Card is a god send if you don't have any good AoE options in your deck.
>>736526851that looks embarrassingly bad.save it for june.
>>736526126>this and Adrenaline have no drawbacks>Offering and Neurosurge do
>>736527262you dont understand. the silent doesnt have enough draw cards
>>736526487The beta version of it makes it more consistent for hitting good targets since it spreads out. Not allowed to stack anymore, but you don't need THAT much Replay on a good card to win. I prefer it.
>>736512018why do non-beta babies insist in babbling their shit opinions?
Okay, I take it all back, triple Stoke+ was the most powerful I've felt on Ironclad, but it was basically reliant on Feel No Pain
>>736514248I always take this over the other choice. Very good AoE.
>>736527408Here's the seed if anyone wants it
Thank you vakuu!!! The run was lost the moment the seed decided I was gonna encounter you anyways!
>>736527262>losing HP>gaining Doom>Drawback
>>736527562You know what I mean. They're conditionally helpful with other cards, while Big Bang and Adrenaline are unconditionally helpful.
Multiplayer betasteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241147957783/76561199486452220
>have Inferno>pick up Tungsten Rod
>>736512018You should have seen the version the Chinese were reviewbombing about. Current beta version is a piece of piss compared.
>>736527742yupyup...
>>736527643No, I get ya. Adrenaline is definitely overtuned, always has been. I think Bang Bang and Offering are the best since Bang is a Jack of All Trades type card while Offering not only fits an archetype but isn't even too much of a punishment between Burning Blood (or its potential upgrade which is way more common in STS2). I get the idea behind Neurosurge, but not only does Necrobinder not have nearly enough to gain from constant self-doom generation (two cards only, I think?) but getting put on a timer when you're the second most defensive character behind Silent, not ever a real great plan.
>>736527742>Time to put Electric Shrimp on my Echo Form
>>736527742I did that yesterday. That taught me to really read the cards.
>>736517789it could mean both, learning which is which is a large part of the game
>>736527742that happened to me before. i got saved by a second inferno
I think I suck bros...
>>736528897They're not separate instances add up to 2 damage?
>>736529003No because then you would proc rupture twice and shit
My Supermassive would've done 1602 if that Perfected Strike didn't kill it first, lol
>>736522042There are at least two more characters confirmed to be coming before the full release, so Watcher is basically a guarantee as she's the only missing character from 1. Some say she's too broken to bring back, but all returning characters have different card pools, altered deck archetypes, rebalancing, etc, and the game around them is different too, so I think it's silly to say Watcher is just 'too strong' as if she's going to be a direct port. I'm sure the two characters will be Watcher and a brand new character.
>>736509878If your run is to good he stops playing cards after a bit and says that's enough and let's you control it again
Did a little sculpt of regent in vr
>>736529445Lol gg, mine was a measly 702 perfect strike
>>736529445It would have been literally over 9000 because i played this twice, meaning 9x damageThat was by far the strongest multiplayer match i've ever seen, everyone had extremely strong decks by the end.
I once had a run with an upgraded End of Days imbued with electric eel and then midway through Act 2 I used the mirror relic to make a copy of it. So from that point on, I think every hallway fight was immediately won as soon as it started.
Are the Ironclad, Silent, Defect, Necro and Regent all canonly friends? The original trio are, I wonder if they hung out over the 1,000 years. I wonder if they ever saw each other at all in the original game to begin with.
>>736529517I dunno man they already stole a bunch of her gimmicks. Souls are just Insights, Forge is Conjure Blade, I guess they could make her pure stance dancing but that was the hardest part of her kit to balance in the first place
I put my faith in spectrum shift and the skill version of it and it failed me.
>>736529610very cute, would feed him all my stars
>>736529762Imbued is fun when it pops off.I had imbued cascade and the 4 energy on first turn relic in a multiplayer game here once. So the start of every combat I'd play 8 cards for free before the combat even started, right into a 7 energy turn. Was playing over half my deck.
The fucking matriarch is unkillable as Silent.
Regent needs a card that upgrades cards in his hand so you can get Sovereign Blade+ consistently.
Prepared a big deck for the Doormaker, ends up killing it on turn 2 anyway.
>>736530926I won with Predator+ and the relic that does 6 damage if you've ended your turn with at least 10 block.
>>736517426Everything in multiplayer scales up aggressively because now players can debuffs enemies and buff each other. However artifact on enemies gets egregiously high, especially since some characters don't even shit out debuffs like some others
>>736530926If the first boss is matriarch, you go poison.
i play pot of greed and then pot of greed again
china status?
How the hell am I supposed to play Ironclad?Every other character I at least have some idea but he just feels like get a bunch of random attack cards and hope for the best.
>>736532224make big bonkbig bonk enemyenemy ded
>use Flak Cannon (exhaust ALL status cards)>learn that Act 2 worm Frantic Escape cards are statusesHoly fuck. Still managed to win on the last turn before he vored me.
any hosters?
>>736532224They need to fine tune his new cards and engines compared to STS1>Vulnerable engine is non existent (No draw, no cheap way to apply vuln., Zero defense, expensive)>Strikeslop engine depends on draw and powers, can't be controlled, might need draw relics to function and you can't really mix and match. Low ceiling>Bloodletting engine is OK but you are killing yourself without the tongue and a block engine.... imo his best engine so far>Exhaust engine is good but random based on card rewards, needs steering to work and requires specific cards.>Block engine is hard to pull and expensive like always and enemies deal more damage this timeSimply put her needs better numbers on some of his cards + some card rarity changes... he really depends on rare cards to scale at all.
not this time faggot
>>736532940suresteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241155791675/76561199486452220
>>736532995>Vulnerable engine is non existent (No draw, no cheap way to apply vuln., Zero defense, expensive)anon...
>>7365331973/4
>>736532410>Take Flak Cannon with a good amount of status generating cards>It's in my opening hand literally every single fight past where I got it
>>736533197still 3/4, one more please
>>736533441noooooo I just got here
>>736533398um your hologram?
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHi can't beat the new door master hes too op
>>736533398your overclock should ensure you see it again soon....bro your overclock?
>>736532224pray for uppercutdont get uppercutdie to forced elite
>>736512313Jesus christ
>>736531012nice
>>736511415if you aren't taking Well Laid Plans, that's on you
>>736533248Zero arguments just like that shitty engine
New Doormaker is fucking retarded what
>>736534387>No drawvicious>no cheap way to apply vuln.thunderclap, molten vist, tremble>Zero defensetaunt, colossus>expensive???
>>736517130t. lifecoach
does this count as "creating" a card, for powers like pillar of creation
>>736533197gg guys. everyone did a great job
why the game so easy thowhen do I unlock not-totally bullshit challenges?
GG boys, absolutely gaped Goatse.
stun is ridiculously OP in multiplayer
>>736534757Yeah.
>>736534805What Ascension are you on?
>>736535075seconddo I need to grind for higher difficulties?
>>736534519Ok let me get back at you>No drawVicious - Uncommon Power, not instant even if the enemy has vuln, doesn't apply Vuln.>no cheap way to apply vuln.thunderclap (1 vuln/ 1 energy) - Not enough damage but it's the bets card to apply it to a group.Molten - Requires vuln. already, exhausts (Not bad but you need 2 copies minimum)Tremble - Skill based vuln - not enough vuln per energy even upgraded >Zero defensetaunt - uncommon but it's just an skill, zero damage and needs to be upgraded to be worth itColossus - Rare - Gee Another skill that does no damage - doesn't apply, it needs vuln already but it's the best defensive cardThe main issues:The engine is too slow and needs multi turn setup , the game doesn't allow this Lack of cards that apply that status in a meaningful way and overlapping roles (Taunt, colossus, tremble) The only card I could understand being good in that engine is break and it's an ancient reward.Now if IC got terror instead of tremble and dropkick back.... maybe it could work.
>>736535245you know that building for vuln doesn't require you to decline all cards that don't say "vulnerable" on them, right?
>>736535186If you're complaining it is easy, yes. A9 and A10 will gape you.
Okay, I underestimated Summon Forth
Okay. I'm going to admit something. I'm going to bare my very soul to you. I have been one of the foremost snakebite HATERS in this thread since day 0. I have argued VEHEMENTLY against this card. But after this run... I don't - I can't stop myself. My legs, my knees, they're moving on their own...Snakechads, I was cruel to you. I was capricious and combative. I didn't listen, I refused to listen. I hope - I pray, that you will find it among the wealth of compassion in your hearts, snakebros, and within the wisdom in your minds, snakefriends, to accept me among you, born anew and baptised in venom, to walk among you as a snakeChad.My legs are straining. My knees are bending. I cannot stop it. I kneel, snakeGODS.
>>736535627Shitposting aside I still think it's kind of a shit card but it's not bad to keep in your back pocket, especially with silver crucible and otherwise terrible card options for your first card.
Shivs just feel really good against doormaker if you get Phantom Blades, really liking them after the leading strike buffs
spite>reduce damage>make it hit once for every time you lost hp that turnthoughts?
So how did STS end according to sts2? Did Clad, Silent and Defect all killed heart together? Because how else could silent get hearts trophy and get infected while Ironclad burns the miasma
>>736535627>>736535674the snakebite hate was always a reddit memeit's a serviceable act 1 damage card that has some niche value with retain. i don't understand why people thought it was the worst thing ever when there's so much more dogshit cards out there
>>736535674It's on-demand poison, and poison's nice because it ignores block. It's strengths are clear. I just wish it dealt 1 more poison so the value proposition would feel better compared to Deadly Poison.
>>736535674yeah it's fine, no one ever said it was crazythe secret to Snakebyte is that it's actually Silent's broke ass block engine that does all the work, once you can block 50+ every turn reliably all you need is something that will kill the enemy eventually as consistently as possible and Snakebyte retaining means it's pretty good at that since you'll always get to play it eventually. It doesn't really matter how slow it is if you're not taking damage anyway.
>>736535769Too conditional, you rarely lose Hp more than 2 times a turn
>>736535802It would be totally unplayable without retain. Not literally unplayable of course, but you'd end up passing with it in your hand almost every single turn just like now. I never thought it was the worst thing ever but I definitely enjoyed saying that it was because it got snakeGODS to go overboard and say it was an incredible 9/10 card.>>736535836Hear me out... Lower the poison value by one (or 2) and have it gain 1 poison for every turn it's retained.
Anyone hosting or are we in the off hours? I have no concept of international time.
>>736535902i agree it would be totally unplayable without retain, the retain is why its number is so lowthe niche retain value i meant was from getting a little extra out of calc gamble or prepared with it.
>>736535954oh ye you're right of course. One thing I appreciate in sts2 is that builds aren't just [keyword] anymore. Successful decks end up leaning into 2-3 mechanics instead of just >oh i got barricade and entrench, gg
>>736535934In Europe we’re going to work in 4 minutes
>>736535865yea, r-right... whod lose hp that often haha
>>736536010Skip work and play with me.
>>736536196not that anon but host a lobby theni dont have the big boy ascensions on mp yet though
>>736511415Each character has a specific way to deal with him. Regardless though you cannot really stall this fight. Big damage is needed be it upfront or after saving up for a bit.
>>736535802Snakebite sort of lies in the uncanny valley of balance, where it's not definitively shit or good. I feel like it's pretty much THE card that you have to evaluate on a run-to-run/in the moment basis rather than from a tier list or on paper (because Retain itself as a keyword is hard to evaluate for most people, and you're effectively paying 1 more energy for 2 poison + Retain in comparison to Deadly Poison). So you can't just slam it into a deck but it's also not completely unusable garbage tier either.It also doesn't help that Snakebite is the only 'slow' offensive Retain card>Erradicate/Reap/Sovereign Blade/Sow are 'finishers'>Equilibirum/Salvo/Phantom Blades/Well Laid/Convergence/Snap are mass retaining your hand or key pieces>Purity/Restlessness/Luminescence/Spur/Sacrifice are supportive
>>736536294I am on A10 but happy to help the fellas grind up.steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241160265629/76561198030802028
>>736536451much appreciated
>>736536506no
>>736536620no, yes
>>736536135Yeah there are turns when you hurt yourself more but early getting one bloodletting/bloodwall/offering and getting 15 damage from spite is very good
>no dropkick, flex, limit break in sts2
>amazing run>goes to shit on the boss>savescumming doesnt helponly happens to me on the regent
>>736537515Flex exists, it's just a colorless reward from the sushi event now instead of an Ironclad card
>>736537568Oh cool, another ironclad card made colorless with nothing to replace it
What the fuck, I don't want anything here. I would have preferred Vakuu over this shit
>>736537623I think setup strike is intended to be the replacement. And it's way more pickable then flex was
>>736537536means your star econ is shit usuallylike youre frontloading all your shit via gamble and then have nothing
>>736510464You just suck anon, it's okay. People will often try and blame things when they are bad at something, instead of realising it is entirely their own fault. Remember not to feel bad, but never forget, you're a massive shitter.
>>736537642All of those are great
>>736537648Flex was 0 cost
>>736537667>ruins perfected strikes>ruins the whole fucking thing because my deck is majority 0-1 cost cards>decent I guess but I'll barely feel it
>>736537672So? It's a replacement not literally the same card
>>736511594>I am stuck in a "I will save this for when I need it" mindset and end the run with full unused potions.The point of delicate frond is too use the potions dumbass, you take it specifically too dump potions every fight cause you will just get them all back.
>>736537648you could build around flex with an early panaceasetup strike is just kinda ass always
>>736537648> And it's way more pickable then flex wasI don’t know in which deck I’d want this
I’m having a really hard time tonight and think I might be shooting myself in the head. Everything is going to shit, trumps a fool. Brown people, women, everything’s so terrible. I’m wracked with endless nightmares, my personal demons never stop. Having a really hard time in life, I lost most of my teeth from smoking crack. The money they give me is nice, I get $30 a month, but it’s not enough to have a good life. I got my revolver, I’m actually sleeping outside again because the homeless shelter is closed. I wish this life didn’t happen. The crack was pretty fun, but I wish I could’ve had sex at least one time without paying. I also have lost one of my feet due to sepsis, and am wheelchair bound. It’s just very hard, I know many have it worse and have faith in Jesuses plan for me. The next world I go to will be filled with adventure. Goodbye.
>>736537816I agree, I don't know what deck you'd want Flex in
what is the ultimate endgame of the dev's "design an enemy encounter to counter every possible deck type that leans too hard on one thing" philosophy?doesn't this eventually just make every run the same thing, where you're always trying to make a deck that can cover every possible option while still winning?
>>736537672wasn't flex also just kinda shit? Clogging your deck with a temporary +2 that will only stick around with one or two specific cards/relics vs having an attack that, worst case, still lets you do some damage
>energy surge without exhaustgg lads
GG boys, that was fucking ridiculous lmao. Fun run
>>736536451GG boys
>>736537972Fuck you chad. You have bumsex every night while I’m sleeping on the street. Your complacency with all this will be your own demise one day.
i dont think ive ever had a 4/4 run that wasn't a roflstomp
>>736538014What did I do?>>736537986Based
>>736537642anon why would you not want pyramid, it's one of the best relic
>>736538056>draw a bunch of status cards>stuck with them in hand because I don't have any exhaustsNot that it mattered since it was A0 ironclad but still, I'd be upset in a real run
>>736537868It at least doesn’t waste energy or akabeko so you can flex into AoE buzzsaw. There’s no situation you’d want setup strike over any other strike in your deck
>>736538048You indulge in sexual fetishm and financial luxuries while I am homeless and never talked to a girl without spending money. You should be looking to help us escape fate. You know on the inside your temporary pleasures aren’t worth our screams of agony you piece of shit.
>>736538056He's got a 30 card deck, Pyramid can be bad if you have a bunch of garbage that clogs up your hand
>>736538048ignore the schizo derailer
>>736538020It'll happen sometimes in A9 and above.no enfeebling touch offered to necro, no pieacing wail offered to silent, Ironclad draw vulnerable at bad timing, etc etc. it's pretty rare though
>>736538119Your pleasure exists because of the dead. Your complacent attitude is why this is occurring. Our suffering isn’t worth your earthly pleasures. You must find a way to prevent the goring of innocent souls occurring for your own greed. You piece of shit.
>>736538103I would take Setup Strike floor 1 if I was offered it vs two other skillsI would not take Flex in that situation
>>736538216> vs two other skillsYou’d take it over bloodletting and shrug off?
>>736538306Floor 1? Yes. You need to take damage early always always always
>>736538331and why? to avoid chip damageand shrug it off does a better job at avoiding chip damage
>>736538331Youre literally fucking girls up the ass every day while I’m out here homeless. Your complacent attitude will be your own demise. You must find an answer to the problems, how many women do you need to knock up at our expense? You fucking bastard, you will be gored eventually too. Your temporary pleasures of the flesh exist because of our burdens. We don’t give them to you with our free will. Our flesh automatons are being gored while you have been fucking girls sphincters. Shameful fuck.
>>736538331nta, but bloodletting probably provide more damage even if it's in a starter deck. playing 1 more strike is +6 damageeven if you play set up strike along with 2 other strikes, that's only +1+2+2 = +5 damage
>>736538379Shrug doesn't always do a better job at stopping chip. If the enemy is attacking for more than 8 and Setup Strike would kill, then Setup Strike is better
>>736538434god i love sodomy so much bros...
>>736538331Bloodletting will net you more damage and block than setup str*ke, shrug off will block better
>>736538462Bloodletting is better if you draw that specific hand (4 strikes + BL), but if you draw 2 with BL and defends or if you brick with Ascender's Bane then Setup is better.>>736538494Down the road those cards are obviously better but at the start of Act 1 when you need more damage for early fights I would pick Setup Strike every time.
>>736538462And bloodletting at best will allow you to do bash+strikex3 for extra 18 damage
>>736538558theres no nobtake the blood wall
>>736538482the condition that allows shrug to make a difference is more common thoughif you have the wiggle room to play 2+ attacks it was a good turn anyways and if you dont setup strike is worse than a regular upgraded one
>>736538484Theres actually solutions to the problems. Theyre covered up by a group of people who believe they can own the world and all the people in it.
>>736538558> Down the road those cardsBloodletting is only worse in specific case when you draw both bloodletting and bane and that card scales much better into the future
>>736538558bloodletting also lets you get in more damage while full blocking
>>736538635Bloodletting bricks any time you draw it and can't use the extra energy; this isn't that uncommon at all in the early game.
>>736538681early bloodletting also lets you pick other cards that reduce the chances of that happening
>>736538558Yeah, but you gotta consider worst case for setup strike too.the avarage performance of S-strike is not S-strike is not +5 damage. half of the time, you play S-strike + strike + defend for only +3 damage while Bloodletting average performance is +6 damage or +5 block.Bloodletting best case is : Bash+3strike, which is 8+9+9+9 = 35 damage (and you have leftover Vulm for next turn)S-strike best case is : [Bash previous turn] S-strike+2strike for 10+12+12 = 34 damage. much worse than bloodletting's best case for a bit higher chance to happenIt's almost objectively better to take bloodletting in floor1 over S-strike.
>>736538890That's a lot of math. I just play the cards that do the most damage and I win.
>>736538890>It's almost objectively better to take bloodletting in floor1 over S-strike.nta but this is a disingenuous conclusion because you're not factoring in the self harmthe other guy is a retard tho
>>736538890Actually best BEST(but very unlikely l) case for bloodletting if your deck cycled and you have leftover bash vuln from last turn for 12+9*3=39
>>736539012Right, but that downside can be mitigated by the usefulness of lategame application of Bloodletting.I'm just saying that setup strike isn't worth it over your first bloodletting even if we're considering short term benefit.
Breakthrough having +1 damage for 1 self damage is such a bullshit, no wonder that none ever picks it. 1 self damage is not worth only 1 damage
>>736537901no because the choices you get each run, just by relic and card variety is very high variance. for example as silent there are literal runs where I only get offered acro or prepared (fucking commons) sometime in act 3 and I have to make do without her bread and butter. the way the game is designed outside of enemy encounters, you already have a very non-samey game.secondly, you become aware of the act boss at the start of the act, and this is typically enough time to prepare your deck for the boss. sure you can build a deck earlier to counter certain bosses with uncertainty if u face them or not, but doing this too much will fuck up your near term deck strength. a very big buff to the player in sts2 is the ability to choose the ancient relic after the boss fight is revealed, which I think is pretty nice.
Remove party popper from the game
>>736539576it's AoE so it is an ok pick if ur expecting hard pool fights, the AoE elite, or The Kin boss. you don't always get whirlwind or stomp or inferno
>>736539621the act 1 goat relic? nah that's my nigga
>>736539675There isn't a single relic in the game I'd want to see less come from a chest than 9 fucking damage at the start of the fight
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241165588985/76561197964728969Let's see if it works today. Beta branch
>>736539675They should restrict some relics to act 1.
>>7365397812/4
>>736539771it trivializes a lot of act 1 hallways and gives u a strong start vs act 1 AoE elites. I love getting party popper early. it's shit late but eh
>>736539675It's not just Act 1. It's good damage against Decamillipede and the books in Act 3
>>736539771juzu
>>736539824might make the game too easy. they should restrict more events to act 1 though like that cheese event, I hate seeing it late act 2, either you lose a ton of HP or get two unupgraded commons.
>>736539771The gain str when you drink a potion? Lucky fish? The eggplant???
>>736539851true true it's my fave common
>>736539907Bowlhat
>>736539907Lucky Fysh is the GOAT if you get Clone
>>7365397813/4
>>736539907>free gold>free str when you need itBoth are good. What the fuck is 9dmg doing.
>>736539970>What the fuck is 9dmg doing.9 damage
>>7365399709 damage act 1 at the start of a fight guaranteed is a lot. it falls off quickly but you likely get around 1 more upgrade and 1 more elite, due to u being ahead of the power curve. some relics pay off a bit late like the hat and fish, while lizard trinket is too conditional, not only do you need a potion you also need to draw the right cards and you need to be using a deck w/c benefits from the str.
>>736537868>I don't know what deck you'd want Flex inOne with amid >>736537642One with lots of draw, one with limit break.Just think what would you rather draw alongside whirlwind, setup strike or flex?
>>736540069When is it a lot? After the easy pool encounters enemies have too much hp for it to matter, 9 dmg is a nothingburguer, the only relevant scenario I can think of is making the gardners elite a bit easier. Otherwise>wowie my 79 enemy is now 70 hp! That sure is worth not having anchor or something like that :)
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Desu the game's insistence on damaging you constantly means Watcher might be more balanced than we thought.
>>736540413Watcher would have trouble in multiplayer until it got reliable stance swap cards.
>>736540302in multi enemy fights. it isn't as good vs the single enemy hallway fights but you should finish them half a turn earlier on average.an anchor is better late but I like the popper better early on.
>>736509878why doesnt your character just toss away cards it doesnt need?
>>736537914It worked awesome with limit break
>>736540356Should've taken the right path with the fire before the elite.
>>736540356Rehostingsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241168145381/76561198029311169
>>7365411763/4
>>736540685>+2 to +4 that goes back down to +2 > for the low low cost of 2 cards in your handwow!
>>736541176you guys want to run 3/3?
>>736541361Crazy how dexterity and inflame are mirrored but one is S tier and another is C tier card. Shows how much devs know about their game
>>736535934but I have it on good authority (xbox live circa 2005) that it's possible to be both gay AND retarded
>>736541481>>736541361Didn’t mean to quote
gg 27 hit finishers a new record for me
Necro is so boring, all I did was cheer lead with Debilitate
I forgot how easy A1 was. No sleep for me, just spamming swords. Fun game.
>>736541490We're on /v/ half the users here are in fact gay and retarded.
>>736541318Tamate
>>736541675but which came first?
>>736541726The gay or the retard?Natures greatest mystery.
>>736541726classic chicken egg problem
Am i the pnly one who likes getting confusion asap. It just makes the whole run chaotic and fun. All that matters is the luck in energy costs. You can make any cards work in such a build.
>>736541718meat ba
>>736541812Confusion and Cascade+, let the Jesus take wheel of my deck
>>736541875Gets real nasty when you get the x2 potion or relic. I 3 shot a boss with it.
A10, here I come. Not a fan of forging. Much prefer card creation. I survived a hallway with 3 HP only to run into bridge event with a choice of either losing Furnace+ or dying.
>>736542058> I survived a hallway with 3 HP only to run into bridge event with a choice of either losing Furnace+ or dying.I choose death
>was cruising on defect until a9>now I cant reliably upgrade my zap and dual cast which fucks up my whole run
>>736541767>>736541757wrong, the answer is their sexually abusive father.
>>736542181That means the father was a gay retard, but what made him a gay retard?
Pictured: the queen boss dying.
>>736542309HIS gay retard fatherwho was made gay and retarded by consuming copious quantities of lead, and boredom in the trenches.
>>736541812Losing boss swap into snecko eye is the most tragic loss of sts2
>>736541481Your attack going from 9 to 12 damage is far less impactful than your block going from 8 to 11.
Trying to understand why I can't clear A9. I think act 1 went ok. In act 2 I relied on Reflect/Dying Star/Bulwark to deal with elites but I bottomdecked them at decimilipede and got left at 8HP so I pussied out on other elites. In act 3 I got burned by the turret operator and the construct menagerie due to drawing bricks in turn 2. I think the problems were too many bad cards from act 1 and not enough draw. I can understand getting bad luck in 1 fight and losing a lot of HP but it happened 3 times
>>736542782Yes, devs not realising this is why they simply unable to balance ironclad
>>736542787decks a bit cluttered, too many win conditions
>>736542646For me it's the dead branch.Don't even start with shitoke.
>>736542860I'd still put Inflame at well above C tier. It deals a shit ton of damage over the course of your average combat.
>>736541176GG!
GG, relicmaxing and supporting was fun
I've come to the conclusion that lord's parasol is an S tier boss relic
>>736543120those random colorlesses are handyI don't know where all those energies come from, but it let me set up really quick. thank you.
>>736543141still waiting for a run where the other options arent a perfect fit for my current deckalways sounded kinda nuts in a fun way
>>736543172Can you get it and apo in the same run?
>>736543198pretty sure you can, but apo only upgrade cards currently in your deck. cards generated after apo won't be upgraded by it, I think.
Does (((Seal of Gold))) work if you have 0 gold? It and Parasol could be funny combo.
>>736543064Inflame is C tier because Dominate exists
>>736543172The extra energy is a colorless multiplayer called named "Believe in you" it gives 2 energy (3 upgraded) for 0.It's pretty good and I always take it when I'm playing multiplayer.
>>736543270situational
>>736543250Shit I quoted the wrong post, I meant the lord's parasol.
>>736543290oh damn, so you fed me energies like everytime you draw it? I thought it was a team-wide energies since I got it so many times. well played.
>>736543302Yes but1. 1 less strength in worst case scenario2. Provides or extends vuln which is more damage than +1 str3. Exhausts instead of power so synergy with exhaust package4. If you have any vuln enjoy your 3+ str It’s much better in so many scenarios
>>736543419dominate also :>synergize better with other cards (Break or Vicious)>can be made reusable with Enchantment>can be royal stamped to innate and retain, to be used at the best oppotunity.>doesn't get +1 cost by Tanx's spiked guantlet (which is a really good ancient reward)>doesn't get zapped from using it by the act3 globe head guy.It's pretty bad VS artifacts though, but that's manageable.
>>736541481Defense is not going to kill the enemy though.Also the whole point of ironclad is that he can take some damage due to his relic.
this guy is such a fucking nigger
>>736544071Anon? Your damage?
>>736544071Wait he spawns more than one? I normally just kill him instantly
>>7365439723 str != 3 dexIt’s closer to4 str =3 dexAlso, there are more ways to kill enemies but there’s only one way to mitigate damage(rip reaper)
>>736544071Early fights like this are precisely why Flick-Flack is at least A tier.
>>736544071that is a retarded fight, play the beta branch it's more managable
>>736544124>>736544140>bro why aren't you doing 50 damage a turn on the third node ever???
>>7365444022 turn kill max, easy to do.
>>736544543>40 damage a turn>with the starter deck + 1 or 2 common cards delusional
>>736544575Just get a rare from Neow and hit him for 45 each turn, ezpz
>>736544714Just get 2 Claws and have Neow's Fury hit them lmaoooo
>>736544379Even on beta branch he's still a nigger.This is just a shit design for the stage of the game where you encounter him.You barely have a chance to sculpt your deck and if you get unlucky with your draws he will start summoning 2 adds which you won't be able to kill all or outblock.He should either have less restrictions on the debuff, like maybe make it like the p3 doormaker debuff for skills, so you lose an energy if you use a skill.Or make it that he no longer attacks when he summons a minion, so you get more windows where you can actually do damage.
>First rewards>Build around power, build around power, build around powerMany such cases.
>>736545071>take the one with the immediate upside>move on without making a post to cry about it
>>736544798> Or make it that he no longer attacks when he summons a minionThis is sts2, when enemy summons or does a debuff/buff, they deal only 25% less damage intended of “wasting” their turn
>>736545203>Danse Macabre>Shroud>Haunt
>>736545268They should do less. They're basically getting two turns of actions.
We joke about Snakebite being shit. Now lets post some ACTUAL shit cards.
>>736545392>page 10
>>736545270so its one of THOSE runs ehid probably take haunt in that case
