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the peaceful life of the propellered buffoon
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>>736534297
I enjoy running Tinkerer and I won't apologize
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>>736534478
tinkerer is just newb bait
mage however is still genuinely undercooked
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I like using Metronome
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>Smash That Head is just a different vocal track on top of The Crack Of Doom instrumental
Even though this is true it just feels wrong, why is that? Am I just retarded?
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>>736534297
>always put propeller hat on my mages to protect their squishy health by keeping them off danger tiles
>do it mindlessly in the desert
>they can't touch puddles of water
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you honestly shouldn't be able to savescum the final boss looting cutscenes
you're about to go home so any punishments steven could give you are a complete non-issue
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Gabe is never full
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I take the harder difficulty Creator's clone cats can't use spells that require spending money
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ALIEN INVADER
FELINE CRATER
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>>736535853
i loved doing my homework at school but stfu
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Explain to me how to play Tinkerer.
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>>736536804
you know i'm right.
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>>736536898
Put fuzzy dice on it so you can reroll
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Tina!
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>>736536898
cant be that hard to breed a line of cats with harpooner / tech skills (or alternatively nanotech for making tinkerer a 2nd tank)
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>>736536898
Did your tinker start with hone? Give them a gun
Did your tinker start with a way to generate tech? You've got a decent damage dealer
Did your tinker start with turrets? Give them int and charisma gear
Did your tinker start with none of these? Congratulations, you have cannon fodder
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>Druid with Versatile Vocalist AND Love Song
>and an irradiated weapon that increased base damage by his lowest stat minus 2
>and Libra
>and also picked up Holy Weapon from Path of the Cleric
>actual Cleric in the party has Healing Aura+
Getting this combo is like one in a million but it was very silly.
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>>736536898
Go Tinkerer until you get Research skill then breed it into a bunch of kots, you know have usable Tinkerers
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>>736537031
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Give me all of your cat reaction images NOW!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJD4ZMKsz5Q
The OST is the best part about Mewgenics, even the non-boss tracks
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>>736534538
Tinker is great with some specific pre-run setup. Like every class.

Without that it is pure unfiltered ass. Worse than Mage.
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>>736536898
Depends on your starting skills. If you got Refine which gives tech up from pick ups, you want means to proc pick ups. For example Butcher's initial Cleave creates meat pick ups.

In short make sure whatever your Tink has synergizes with its other skills and other cats' skills
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>>736537164
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SEX WITH MARHSMALLOW
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Smonk
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>>736537164
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>Ninja
+2 Dex/Spd, -2 Str/Con
>Basic Attack
3 Dmg (+Dex/2 after 5) Melee that bypasses shields
>Shuriken
1 Dmg (+Dex/5) 2 mana, line of sight physical attack that bypasses shields
>Substitution Jutsu
~5 mana, 1 buff stack: Next time you're attacked, you first swap places with any inanimate object with HP, if there is one
Upgraded, you can also swap places with a random enemy, instead
>Hide
4 mana, Gain Stealth that breaks on basic attack/getting hit
Upgrades for crit chance on next attack
>Fireball Jitsu
~4 mana, hits a 3 diameter area 4 tiles away, and the line leading to it, for 2 fire and 2 burn
>Passive: Sneak Attack
Start battle with Stealth that breaks on basic attack/getting hit. But you no longer lose Stealth for a basic attack

What else?
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>>736537636
>Seppuku
Kill self and summon 5 copies of yourself with 25% of stats
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>>736537636
we already have thief sir
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>>736537790
After 400hrs these are my picks.
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>>736537907
Hunter will never be S tier with Elite buff: Mirror in the game. Fucking noobs
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>The Impossible difficulty class tier list
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>>736538138
I 100%ed the game, Hunter is still S tier even if the occasional enemy has Mirror. That is why you have the rest of your cats melee and the Hunter can still spam mark shit every round.
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>>736538138
You literally just wear the infamous mask or have project reflection yourself and it's fine
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>>736538614
>Hunter is still S-Tier in impossible guys. You just need to clutch on other classes and have one specific item in your inventory to use it.
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>>736537716
>only thief (and hunter) is allowed to ignore shields
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>>736538714
Yeah and other classes are also dogshit because of things like thorns existing, knock back on contact, and mana drain. It's good to have variety. Kill yourself nigger
No one sane who actually values their time is doing impossible without items.
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>>736537031
my wife
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>>736538714
Not any of those anons but if one single elite buff ruins a class for you, it might be more of a (You) problem and not the class problem

I'm currently bringing Hunter with Scatter Shot and Psychic with Meteor Shower to The End on Hard. I can tell you are choking to rush in to tell that you shouldn't bring ranged or magic to future. But the thing is, just because some enemies in Future are immune to magic or ranged doesn't mean they all are and The End and especially Mother gets bodied by big AOE like Scatter Shot and Meteor Shower. Don't bother to reply.
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>>736538762
>Yeah and other classes are also dogshit because of things like thorns existing.
Thorn doesn't do shit to kill your cats and nothing in this game stacks thorn high enough to make it a problem.
>Knock back on contact,
Also doesn't do shit to make battles difficult besides interrupting combos.
>and mana drain.
Wrecks every class. Hunter is not special.
>It's good to have variety. Kill yourself nigger
I'm not arguing Hunter is a bad class. It's not S-Tier because it's crippled by mirror.
Butcher and Monk can hard carry impossible runs with their best and okay builds. Psychic trivializes normal fights with numerous spells and can even help kill bosses if you luck into pyschic choke. Tinkerer is hilariously busted with repair and an OP weapon like Sniper Rifle. And unlike Hunter, it can still do kills even if there's a mirror enemy.

Hunter doesn't belong with these classes.
>No one sane who actually values their time is doing impossible without items.
Who argued this? I didn't.
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>>736539353
Marked in the Infinite trivializes every fight.
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>>736539353
>Tinkerer is still S-Tier in impossible guys. You just need to clutch on other classes and ultra rare specific items in your inventory to use it.
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>>736537164
ok
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>>736537164
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Hey so, like the job you're doing, and i appreciate the retired cats you've been sendin.
however, now i need ya to get retired cats that visited this place called Four chean. probably chinese or somethin.
should be by a secret exit in the end, place where no sane human has gone before.
((i'm implying that you should post mewgenic cats that you like))
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>>736540396
sexually aggresive shota
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If this is cat: the game, is pic related dog: the game?
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Down below I can't seem to get away
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So what's the best set bonus in the game?
The best one I've used is the Baby set that spawns a kitten version of your cat at the start of battle with all your equipment and abilities.
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Wait, since you have to pick between pyro and zaratana you're stuck with that choice on the high difficulties too? If you want the achievement for both on impossible you need to get 2 save files to impossible content?
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so what is Edmund's deal with shit and other things that are "icky"? Is it just a shock value thing or does he have like a german fetish or something?
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>>736537031
Sauce?
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>>736540427
>average libido
not that aggressive
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>>736537164
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What happens if you kill the hands on moon man? Obviously need some insane multi hit like thief nail barrage
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>>736542295
it funny
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Do you choose to see your cats with cat vision as well?
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>>736542295
he grew up on and likes toilet humor
also
>cartoon style poops
>"shock value"
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>>736536898
Stack up as much rerolls as possible in hope that you will get something useful.
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Does reap or anything that instagibs skip dybukk possession?
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>>736543106
No. You can down your own cat, Dybbuk prioritizes downed cats over the cat dealing the finishing blow. It can also posses cat familiars lije Tom Toms and copies
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>>736537907
After beating creator (hard) and nuke quest. I dropped Thief, Tank and Tinkerer at the beggining of the game due to having a terrible run with them, and only picked them up after beating the game for completion marks. Thief is alright
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>>736543106
Reap works, Butcher convert low HP units to meat also
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>>736543279
How about infested?
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>>736543331
https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Dybbuk
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I've finished the nuke quest, got the credits, and am just cleaning up completion marks and such, but when I did the infinite again I am now given the nuke quest again. Why?
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>>736544005
timeloop
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>>736544005
Those jars are cool items to use.
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>>736543232
why are fighter, and monk top tier?
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>>736544189
Because they deal absurd damage consistently
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>>736543378
>description says it will get revenge on the unit that kills it
>but he really only will on the cat
>meaning most units like flies and the crow get ignored but not cat types like tom toms
Huh, never realised that the description was inaccurate
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>dumbfuck bouncer tank gets necromancer killed by daddy shark
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>>736544549
I've also had him possess cats that didn't do the final hit (maybe weird interactions with status being allied)
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>>736538138
>mirror buff
>mildly inconveniences the best class in the game
>absorbent buff
>fucks almost every class over, but hunter has a bunch of low cost spells that don't require positioning so he's fine
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>>736545610
>walk through spiderling with my fighter that has trample
>tank attacks him and hits him for half his hp
>fighter has retaliate and almost kill my tank
Amazing.
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>>736545610
try walking a mile in harpooner's shoes
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What class benefits most from Dyslexia? Based on looking at the wiki, the options I see on first glance that might be good are hunter, tank, cleric, tinkerer, psychic and monk, but I want some advice from other anons.
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>>736540427
How much stimulation do you need to get all 7s?
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>>736546182
I'm quite slow and needed to actually chew my steak to work out auto attack abilities like shoulder check hurt my own units
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>>736547774
I feel most early (and late) game savescuming is from players going "oh so that can happen"
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>>736547637
Technically 0 since cats pass down their stats so if you have a cat with 3 7s in a stat their offspring can have those 7's too. Stim does increase the chance for the better stats of the parents to be passed down though
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>>736547637
Stim doesn't really get you 7s, it just makes you more likely to inherit 7s from parents. Kittens have a 50/50 chance to inherit the best or worst stat from their parents, and stimulation just weighs it in favor of the better stat. I think 50 stim makes it a 40/60 chance in favor of the better stat. What you want is higher appeal to get strays with two or three 7s, and then breed that into your other cats. 100 appeal should give you around a one in three chance for a stray with three 7s, while 50 appeal gives about a one in three chance for two 7s.
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>>736548130
What in the reddit is this reply
>Stim does increase the chance for the better stats of the parents to be passed down though
How much stim makes a difference was my question
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>>736548190 (me)
My bad, I thought you were being a smart ass but I just worded myself like a retard.
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>>736535650
I had this same problem with the arm mutation that negates tile effects
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>>736548190
https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Breeding

If googling is hard for you, I can imagine you are struggling in the game
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>>736542594
I assume they don't respawn and the fight becomes even more trivial as you just ping him from the side every turn until he or you dies, the reinforcements would never reach you because he keeps pushing them back
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>>736548489
>This page is a work in progress
>This page is currently being built or significantly revised.
>Information may be incomplete or subject to change.
yeah I'd take that entire wiki page with a grain of salt tbqhwy. Breeding in mewgenics still has not been fully solved by the community.
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>>736545832
>mildly inconveniences
You mean shuts down all of Hunter's dps. What? You gonna use Tom Toms to take those enemies out?
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>>736548489
>stim takes hundreds of points before it's noticeable
lol
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>>736548650
I've seen anons say exactly that. The Huntershills are coping hard.
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>>736548650
I mean you brung other cats right anon?
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>>736548836
It'll be noticeable from the first point, it'll just take a lot more time. You only need hundreds to make things change within one generation.
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>>736548173
>50 stim makes it a 40/60 chance in favor of the better stat
>100 appeal should give you around a one in three chance for a stray with three 7s
>tfw did most of act 3 but still top of at something like 25 stim and appeal
I guess late game the goal really is grinding rare furniture as to gain at least an edge against rng
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>>736548892
Sure, but if Hunter can get cucked by a likely buff modifier and auto lose an impossible solo run without multiclassing, then it doesn't belong in the same tier as Monk and Butcher
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>>736548489
>>736548638
I don't know if it's negative-bias or whatever, but my kittens born with better stats/passives seem to have high aggresion and low libido or/and birth defects (if slighly inbred)
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>>736549012
Nah, it really just depends on how you play. I'm 300+ hours in, doing Crazy runs and I just got my first max 7 cat. Some anons have gotten theirs before they even hit act 3 for the first time. I just haven't really bothered with minmaxing the breeding.
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>>736549049
Fair but I would still always want a hunter if I bring multiple cats due to his upsides. I feel like they added that elite buff just to keep hunter in check. Also wouldn't needle shot be pretty good vs that elite effect since you're taking low damage and getting thorns
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>>736548638
So instead of checking wiki, you rely on anons telling you what you need? That's self-learned helplessness and that's a Russian thing.
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>>736549246
>instead of
Not "instead of", but "as well as". There's nothing wrong with discussing cat breeding observations ITT.
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>>736549321
I don't know, that sounds like discussing videogames on the videogames board, you know how some people get uppity about that
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The gap between crazy and impossible is too small IMO, if you can clear crazy difficulty then you can clear impossible. Possible changes to make it more challenging:
>3 cats max
>Limit on items you can bring from storage
>No inbred cats
>Exhaustion setting in sooner
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>>736537157
Bruh XD there's no way this wasn't on purpose
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>>736549798
Yes, no one has ever made the connection with the word pussy meaning both cat and vagina
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>>736549321
The wrong is that it's an waste of time when the wiki always has the most accurate, up to date information.
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So my fighter, with Psychosis, did exactly what I thought he would do and Cosmic Punch Hitler in his self destruct phase. R.I.P. Wants Women
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How do you guys feel down in that cave's rollercoaster?
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>>736549217
When I posted my tier list here >>736538323 I'm never argued that Hunter is a bad class, or that you shouldn't play it or that it has no value. It is simply not going to hard carry impossible as consistently as Fists of Fate Monk, Repair Tinkerer, Become Entropy/Psychic Choke Psionic or Vurp! Butcher can
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>>736550107
I imagine a cave opening with flowing water going down like a long fast water slide
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>>736549894
>ESL thinks he can police what people want to discuss
Fuck off retard
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>>736536898
>Cat inherits Necromancer Giga Drain skill
>Make them a Tinkerer
>Rocket Boots
>My Tinkerers face when Rocket Boots into enemies over and over and then giga drains all his HP back every turn
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>>736550237
Then the song would be down in that cave's water park. A roller coaster needs rails, it's probably more likely a roller coaster that was put together with minecarts and the rails miners used to use.
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>>736550286
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>>736535078
Because the lyrics in crack of doom are like an instrument in their prominence and progression, the changed lyrics are more for hype building and less melodic, letting the instrumental shine more and giving the song a very different feel
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>>736550349
best ability in the game
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>>736537164
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>>736542295
Exaggerated uncomfortable reality
Isaac is a mentally ill child who plays with shit
Cats are mentally ill autistic animals that eat shit
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>>736537164
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>>736550398
It's the best self exploding thing for sure, fun as fuck to just keep ramming into thing
fuck the jetpack and fuck escape sequence especially
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>>736542295
he has IBS so a large part of his life involves poop, he has said so himself
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>>736537790
I am still playing through the game (Just did the quest to get the king's heart, have to take it to the lab now) and I would say the best classes are definitely fighter and hunter. Butcher is really good but it needs a movement skill because they're so fucking fat. People say druid is OP, I don't get it. I think they CAN be decent, but I put them on par with Cleric.

I feel like most of my parties are just Fighter/Hunter/Butcher (or Fighter)/Cleric (or Druid).

I try to use tinkerer, have literally never even SEEN a tech up skill. I legit thought they were bugged because every tinker I get just gets offered the same skills: Electrolyze, building a punch bot, or one of the dumb unreliable skills.
Thief seems good but you need to be lucky, they have so many bad money related skills
Mage can just randomly roll with only support skills or a dogshit unusable damage skill, but then sometimes they just spam high damage electricity and are good
Monk seems strong, but I just got it have only used it a few times
Tank is a worse butcher/fighter pretty much. Strong passives for breeding though, I love the one that blocks attacks from the front.

Necro/Psychic seem like the worst classes in the game.
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>>736550341
I had not considered minecarts since there don't seem to be any tracks in the rooms but there are pickaxes and everything in the scenery so I guess you got a strong point
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>>736551347
Remember to destroy the corpses in the quest to lab :)
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>mana meld with battery
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>>736534297
It really is absurd how much more annoying the Future Chapters are than the Past.
The Future and The End have
>Shutzebots
>Fernsehbots
>Hangenbots
>Zapphauser
>TWO different projectile reflector enemies alongside multiple rooms where they can both spawn at once
>Bloat
Whereas Ice Age and Jurassic have
>one or two difficult Ice Age rooms I guess
>Lord Bunga
>those kinda annoying Pterodactyls
>that's it
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>>736535853
The final boss looting cutscene shouldnt kill your cat to begin with. Completely unnecessary edmund bullshit
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>>736551845
They also have guys who steal sniper rifles and blow up nukes
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me when blood frenzy
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>>736551724
The first time I did the quest I was inadvertently a genius and did this little combo. Sadly the spiders broke. No idea if I should try to get another copy or just bite the bullet and go for it.
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>>736551347
>Necro/Psychic seem like the worst classes in the game.
Necro sucks because it's the one class that needs rerolls to get their builds working.

Psychic is not shit. All charm and madness spells are great. It has instant death that works on everything that isn't a boss. It has boss spam damage in Pyschic choke. Heaps of passives are also good. It's good bro
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>>736551965
Why bother trying to loot the corpse if you can't handle potentially losing the cat who's looting?
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>>736551972
Molesters are annoying but they're countered by literally just right clicking on them and seeing their movement range
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>>736551347
Psychic is good if you learn to not treat it as a dps, it's a crowd control class
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>>736552097
>literally just right clicking on them and seeing their movement range
I can't do that, I play Mewgenics
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>>736550232
> Fists of Fate Monk, Repair Tinkerer,
Funny you say that since I have have both of those + super luck + retard maxing think too hard fighter in a soul jar
Honestly it's a bit hard to rank classes late game due to how some classes best moves (fists of fate and repair) are better on classes that can wield them better and other shenanigans that can trivialize the game easily
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>>736551347
I'm at about the same point with same general feeling. I do think Druid is great though. Crow is low risk and generally good, sometimes you can go off with a bunch of familiars or one of the good animal forms, or just buff/heal everyone a bunch
Fighter/Hunter are too good to not consider though. Thief has also been explosive for me, he runs around the entire map, crits everything, and he has a lot of shield piercing when you want it
I think Necro has only been amazing when I was doing the first heart run and he soul linked and put infest on everything. I wish it was better.
I personally don't understand Butcher. It's clearly one of the better classes but I don't see how to make it shine. It seems item dependent or maybe I never get the hard hitting multi hit skills. I always get offered grill or self damage/debuff stuff with little pay off.
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>finally decide to do some necro sudoku build
>5 steps into first stage a unavoidable parasite event bricks it
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wait a second

this seems really good with vurp...
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>>736554172
It is.
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does anyone else see the charisma icon as a cowboy hay instead of lips
i KNOW it's lips i just can't not see the cowboy hat
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>>736553453
Suicide necro feels both too fickle and too luck (irl) dependant to be worth bothering even for the hell of it
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are the idols global or only for their room? Like will the one that causes more deadly fights only work for the fight club room it's in or will it work for fights in the entire house?
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>>736554330
cowboy hat* fuck
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>>736554368
Only 1 room
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CRATER MAKER'S DESCRIPTION DOESNT SAY IT KILLS CATS IN FRONT OF IT

MY PUNCH FACE FIGHTER
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>>736554513
All instant kills are properly labelled :)
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>>736554513
Shouldve known the one tile attack is an instant kill unlike every other one of Crater's attacks which are not. Clear skill issue.
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well that's not bad, a teleport can always help, and equipping armor-
>breaks any armor piece it replaces
HUH
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>>736554513
Just for future, Moon Man boss can be cheesed by bringing high HP unit into its mouth. The cat in the mouth gets 10 mana command to make the moon man's hands launch at the face to remove the brace and deal damage. If no high HP cats, you need to rotate and launch the hands manually
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>>736551347
it seems counterintuitive but stack strength and speed on your druid
the crow mirrors your out of combat stats 1:1 and if you get a shapeshift you'll turn into a murder machine
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>>736554172
Because it is

>>736553453
It feels like Necro's corpse should have higher corpse health than normal if they want the gimmick to be a little less risky
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>>736554513
>>736554926
>hmm all of crater maker's primed attacks targets a lot of tiles, except for this, which targets just one, i wonder why that is?
>meh it's probably nothing, i bet it's gonna do like 1 damage or even heal me lol lmao
you guys stupid
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>>736555058
I avoided getting eaten by moon man for the longest time because of crater maker's consume.
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>>736554513
>>736555058
Don't do this. Moon man kills anything it eats. You can use a familiar to verify that I'm telling you the truth and the other anon is trying to trick you
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>>736555094
Don't necromancers have 6 or 9 corpse health by default?
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>>736555134
>bet it's gonna do like 1 damage or even heal me lol lmao
No one said that doe
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>>736555223
https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Man_in_the_Moon
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>>736555459
Tell me what did you think a one tile primed attack right in front of a big boss with a huge mouth was gonna do
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>>736555332
Nope, 3 like normal. They get some stuff that ups corpse health, and leech will increase corpse health even while you're down like all healing, but they don't have any inherent boost.
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Jump movement is busted. Turning your movement action into a second basic attack and ignoring tile effects when moving across tiles. It's not as much damage, sure, but when you get enough luck to crit with it, and hell throw in Merciless+ and now you can kill everything in one turn just repeatedly jumping on shit.
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>>736537907
Solid list
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>>736535932
That little homo needs to go down the pipe asap
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>>736555332
I wish
Yesterday I did a 2 necro run with a tank carrying the Loner and both necros had 3 corpse health
I had to Steven 2 times because the corpses died
It was my fault for trying to jump into the fray with the corpse
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oh
never saw that one before
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>>736555768
Why didn't you bring the necro skill that revive all allies when you get downed? That way the loner always have at least 2 team mates with it as the last cat downed will revive the other 2
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>>736537324
The back of that cats head is really odd looking.
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>>736539414
Monk gets marked AND magic weakness
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>>736555594
For certain not that it would do 1 damage or heal like the previous anon said.
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>>736555687
>and hell throw in Merciless+ and now you can kill everything in one turn
Enjoy while you can because that one is for sure getting nerfed
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>>736555918
Then why did you stand on it, get a cat killed, and then complain here that the game didn't tell you?
>>736554513
>>736554926
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>>736555732
I have plenty of ?-gendered cats so rainbows are not an issue
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>>736555846
I don't think I saw it in any on my level ups (both necro had rerolls)
But they had the extra turns one whenever they went down so it was a fun one for the tank
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It's not a bad song but the Desert song has to be the least memorable
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>>736554341
In 100ish hours ive only got it to work once and necro was one of my favorite classes
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>>736556113
the desert boss intro stinger is the most memorable part of the song
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How to make suicide Necromancer viable
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>>736556102
Friend. Before doing quests you can do runs to acquire skills you need, have the cats breed and then the kittens that inherit them skills can be used in the quest. You shouldn't bank on getting to roll the exact skill you need but instead do runs to acquire the skills beforehand.
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>>736556215
Eternal
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>>736544189
Monk has 2-button infinites, controllable blood frenzy, and his compounding buffs are ridiculous with the right synergy
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>>736556215
Death shroud+Santa sangre+Death boon+carrion shot+coffin drop+life drain
In other words, dont bother. Downed necro builds are fucking dogshit
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>>736537031
Was she a good cag before she went rogue?
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huh. Never seen this item before, not even in people's screenshots
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>>736556370
*presses scatter shot*

game needs a balance pass badly
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>>736556461
I've had 2 of those
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>>736556461
its okay but glasses are a compatitive slot
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>chubs and nubs get in front of eachother
>one smack and they go into a loop auto attacking eachother until one dies and the other is very low health
Theyre not difficult but I guess it's still cool that that can happen
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>>736556461
I posted it once but yeah its pretty rare
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>>736556534
That happened to me when I was newer to the game and save scumming, struggling with the boss, then Steven took control and suddenly the fight just ended in 1 turn
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>>736556457
She was trained by Butch, what do you think?
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>>736555687
There are some niche cases where walking is preferable to jumping, mostly with Trample, but yeah 99.9% of the time jumping is OP as fuck.
>Finally breed a kitten with Harpooner
>Load him up with one of my three sniper rifles that I've been hoarding for just this moment
>Also get a cat with Wolf Form, he rolls Toad Style as his passive
>The jumps from Wolf Form and Toad Style count as movement for Harpooner, so I proceed to gun down everything in my path
Shame I was going to Chaos and my Harpooner cat domed himself with a reflected shot.
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>>736556294
You are right but I had too many necro items that I wanted to use (or get rid of) so when I saw that a blank collar was going to be a necro, I went for it.
Thanks for the advice tho
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>>736556739
>Shoot anything that moves!
>b-but what about--
>I SAID ANYTHING YOU FUCKING PUSSY
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how do i cheat in a soul jar

asking for a friend
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>>736557126
DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME
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>odd medalion is part of demonic set

savage
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>>736557168
I don't even see the need for soul jar unless you just want to beat the game as fast as possible. There's so much busted shit in the game as it is
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>>736556215
The best suicide Necro I've had had eternal from a pair of horny clerics, and learn blood geyser and had that one active that gave units HP equal to their next damage
>Blood geyser
>Leech to put yourself above half HP
>Blood geyser, left with low HP
>Immolate and deal damage to all enemies, then revive instantly with eternal, back to half HP
>Go back to full HP with your own spell
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>>736557126
I have like 6 of them in storage. Meet me in the alley in 10 mins
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>>736555687
>jump.movement always grants you complete movement range
>can combine with trample to displace whatever the cat lands on
>the easiest way to get it is with a mutstion that also gives you the second most OP debuff in the game (bruise)
For reference, one of the best fighter passives in the game, skullcrack, lets basic attacks inflict one bruise. This mutation stacks the effect of a fighter passive on one of the most effective movement options available. And it's a mutation so you can spread it around to your entire colony within an ingame week or two.Which you should because the bat wings are so fucking op especially when you have monks, hunters and jesters using it
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>>736557249
will i need kneepads?
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>>736556215
>99% of steven items
>launch a nuke but nukes get launched at you every turn
>this item
>you win
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>>736557126
>>736557249
What if this game had that Dragon's Dogma mechanic where you get cats from other players and send them back with an item?
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>>736557381
It's actually the hoofed wings, not the bat ones. Bat ones inflict bleed instead of bruise iirc.
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>>736555687
it's supposed to be balanced by the fact that the only jump mutations that deal damage also inflict bruise or bleed, which makes clerics and druids awkward
in practice, this is not a serious concern
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Was anyone else incredibly disappointed by the Cosmic Punch animation?
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>>736557220
I still wonder if theres some hidden interaction between the medallion and the sonichu stray
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>>736557381
Bat wings are ugly, though.

>get springleg jumping and niggerlip mutation from time machine
>on a monk with empty mind
>pipe the killing machine anyways because I don't want spring legged abominations with gold teeth taking over the gene pool

I kept this garbage ass mutation all the way until towards the end of the game because it's cute. I miss the resurrecting bone tail.
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>>736557410
You'll need a kat, anon will have a cat fight with you
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I think i'm done with Mewgenics for today. Going to do an Isaac run as a dessert
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>>736557723
Giga based cutemaxxer
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>>736557535
moth wing/claw legs inflict bleed. Bat wing/hoof legs inflict bruise.
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>>736557723
>Bat wings are ugly, though.
Agree to disagree. The bat wings flutter when the cats move from one direction to other in the house and watching newborn kittens wobble on them is adorable af
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>finish the nuke
>start going for hard+ marks
>start playing less and less taking it slow
>haven't played at all this week

I really hate that games are finite. I don't want it to end.
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>>736557723
>Bat wings are ugly, though.
But have you considered butterfly wings?
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So send me to the big house
If eating pussy's a crime
For if just for a nibble
I’m happy to do my time, time, time…
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>>736557543
I'm glad it even got one, and every time the unit came down and I had forgotten about it I burst out laughing. Shame it doesn't do shit on bigger units
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>>736558282
Same
I don't really enjoy <1 turn clearing, especially when I have to make cats skip turns just so the others can play too
Even when a fucked elite combo comes around it serves to frustrate you but you have to engage the game by making most of the rooms a joke just for them, and even sometimes a particularly demonic combo of buffs+weather will make a room unwinnable
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sorry bros, i knew who i had to pick...
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>>736555058
>>736555223
>Get Monk with ability that flips a unit around when you hit it
>Get a hand right next to the moonman
>Spend every turn just wacking the hand into his head like 5 times while also giving my monk extra turns
lol
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>>736558809
you fool
now you've doomed her to a life of torment in the chaos realm
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>>736558507
>welcome to the desert, your bosses are The Cat With No Name or a fat retard
what were they thinking
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>>736552664
Butcher has a great starting kit (diagonal attack + hook) and suffers from 90% of its abilities being largely garbage.
Also -2 speed is awful ("But hook!" Yeah if you want to kill one thing a turn.)
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>>736559037
>90% of its abilities being largely garbage.
People keep saying this and it's still not true. There are some duds, sure, but unless your only consideration is Impossible Creator fights, most are solid.
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>>736554983
I get that teleporters MUST reference the fly movie but why the fuck does it have to break armor
why does tinkerer get fucked over like this for some.of the most basic-ass skills? For reference, Gravecrawl costs 1 mana more and does the same shit with zero consequences
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the 99 coin cap during adventures kind of sucks. I'm hitting it constantly if I have a thief with any money abilities
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>>736556461
It’s made for Monk but also counts as equipment unlike the Brands so I never use it.
>just don’t make a no-armor monk
They keep starting off with Unburdened Thoughts!
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>>736558928
we'll save her in the dlc trvst
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>>736558706
As soon as I heard hard and beyond modes just mean random enemy buffs I figured it didnt seem that fun to engage with
Probably just gonna do 100% normal
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>>736559147
Fly armour is probably better than your other gear, though.
+3 dex +3 speed +3 con -3 charisma +30% dodge chance, that's great. Probably worse than your impossible creator build but anything short of that is happy.
It also synergises with "when your gear breaks" stuff but that's only two passives so not likely.
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>>736559037
>Yeah if you want to kill one thing a turn.
counterpoint: you can stack so much strength so easily on butcher that you are guaranteed that one kill every turn. Also the hook is great for repositioning enemies closer yo your fighters, for dragging annoying enemies that run away like clots and birds into range to kill them, and you can use it to pull your own cats out of enemy zones. It's a versatile big brain tool, I really like it.
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>passive that gives +1 damage per coin
>passive that takes 1 coin per attack
>pickpocket
>shadow friend
>thou shall not covet
LODS E MONE
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>>736559440
>99 coin cap
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>>736559129
The Lifesteal ones are good. Spin 2 Win and Hack are fantastic, the other passives feel ineffectual. Pretty much anything involving poison, bleed, or farts is a waste of time.
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>>736558706
That's a huge part of why I'm playing less. Hard mode actually feels legitimately great, but it's so hard to not snowball your cats into one-turn map clearers without piping every single cat you return home with which sounds unfun in and of itself. I have a lot of fun still playing with monk, psychic, and even mage, but without gimping yourself, most fights play out the same way after getting past a certain point
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>>736559281
At the start I thought the same but at this point Ive got so much money with so little to spend it on I dont even care
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look at this fucking slut
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Anything that does not contribute to a round 1 clear is not worth bothering with, simple as.
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>Princess Hat cat cannot use her basic attack to release herself from cobweb or THROBBING KING'S ROOT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA HELP ME
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>>736560131
And that is a fundamental problem with how the game is design. Tactics Ogre LUCT had a great encounter balance for this type of strategy game even if the actual class design in that game was unbalanced as fuck in that fights don't turn into complete sweeps where the enemies don't even get to move unless the game throws something in to cripple whatever you have on the field
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>>736537636
I want a dominatrix class. Damage it takes/gives to allies is converted into buffs. Plus it would give Edmund an excuse to bring Gimpy back.
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>>736560024
We really need some kind of coin outlet for mid-to-lategame, it’s impossible for Jack to keep up.
I think the issue is
>as the game progresses and you get upgrades, you start getting more cats than you can ever possibly use
>so you are incentivized to make more and more frequent runs, to not "waste" cats and to get abilities for them to pass down
>as a result your income per game week skyrockets, and restocks over real time plummet
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>>736558706
>>736559945.
>When the enemies dont get buffs to scale with you, the game is unfun because one turn clears are too easy
>when the enemies get buffs and demand proper strategy in how you approach them and which ones should be prioritized, the game is unfun because you actually have to strategize now and cant run meme builds anymore
sounds like you just dont like chewing the steak.
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>"Sorry for... stepping in!"
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>Get The Loner achievement
>The fuck? This is bullshit.

STEP NUMBER 1, GIVE THE LONER OWNER THE CURSED RELIC. HE STARTS WITH ALL STATS 3.
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>>736560576
Also neither tracy nor jack have many good things to sell. Jack needs several hundred cats to stock rare furniture with any real consistency and tracy's infinite is a fucking scam
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Rework Alpha. Make it its own class with specific rules, like if it is down at the end of the round then you lose or something. Feels like a total after thought when it should be something on its own entirely.
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STEP NUMBER 2, BREED ANOTHER CAT TO HAVE HAUNT
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>NOOO how was I supposed to know that ignoring NPCs would make them hate me and curse me with tragedies! In my third world country it's actually polite to ignore people when they try to talk to me!
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STEP NUMBER 3, BREED *TWO* OTHER CATS TO HAVE HAUNT
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>>736560743
Cleric has the majority of alpha related abilities. Alpha is already cleric's gimmick.
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>>736560576
It's a simple answer, Jack needs a restock button that costs more and more every time and resets on Sunday (alongside the natural restock).
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STEP NUMBER 4, GIVE THE LAST CAT FLESHY KID

I SHALL NOT CHEW THE STEAK!!!
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>>736560719
>>736560787
A lot of work when it's much simpler to have an angry face wearing cat carry the gun
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YOU ARE SO WEAK
YOU ARE SO WEAK
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>>736560983
Sounds like someone didn't chew the D1 patch.
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>>736561089
D1 patch fixed neverstone, not the gun/face combo
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>>736560743
Alpha is less a buff and more a way to restrict cleric's extra movement and attack buffs least you use them on your whole team, the fighter passive that makes the last cat to kill a unit the alpha is actually very bad because the chances of your fighter being the only one that gets a kill are very low and you force cleric to put buffs on a unit that already had its turn
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Step 5, get fucked over by Arthur splitting the atom because you're still playing 1.0
Fuck my life

And I forgot Step 0: Don't be a save scumming coward.

Very well... I will chew the steak after all... This really is a game for autistic degenerate masochists. No wonder streamers all dropped it.
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>>736561257
OH NO NO NO NO
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ROBOTS
TRACK YOU
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>>736561257
I'm so sorry, anon
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>>736560719
>>736560983
the loner is actually the best ranged weapon with infinite uses, if you combo it with sharpen or unrestricted+ for example it goes crazy
the reward for it sucks sadly
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>>736561145
The Neverstone interaction was there at launch, buddy.
But the Loner interaction was removed a few weeks in, not D1.
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>My Butcher with 3x3 attack got copied
>Crater Maker eats the copy
phew, probably for the better, that butch was too strong to be controlled by an AI
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>>736561257
lmao
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>>736561257
AAAAAIIIIEEEEEE
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>>736561257
>foiled by the anti-piracy measure
lel
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Something occurred to me that might be part of why Mage feels so bad.
I don’t think magic damage gets random crits, does it? It can only crit through Magic Weakness, which is pretty much magic Marked.
On top of that, Magic Weakness inherently has much less team synergy, because most classes are doing physical damage. And the icing on the cake is that Mage has ZERO (0) abilities that apply Magic Weakness. They’re exclusive to Monk and Psychic (aka What If Mage Was Good)
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>>736561257
C h e w
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>>736561257
I guess this counterfeit steak gave you food poisoning
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>>736561257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5dRfOWmnvw
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>>736561257
Fair game btw
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>>736561257
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>>736561257
kek, I've almost had Arthur end a run with mockingbird form making my cats into 1hp invalids but you have to be especially unlucky to have that happen
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>>736561257
Why are we here? Just to gamble?
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just lost hard mode moon run as everyone got charmed by the ayys....
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>>736561785
UFO PORNO
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>>736560926
>I SHALL NOT CHEW THE STEAK!!!
>>736561257
>Very well... I will chew the steak after all...
Kek Instant loss 2koma material right there
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>>736561785
I don't know if there was some reason why you couldn't do it (especially in hard mode with elite buffs) but every time there are ayys I just have my cats always literally on the edge of the map with their backs to the edge. Come at me, faggots.
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>>736560140
that's why you put it on a cat with swap (breaks webs for it and the target)
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>>736561813
>>736561846
my fighter having that disorder that makes him move on his own really fucked me over
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I love arthur so much
More games should have completely RNG bosses I'm being 100% unironic he's funny as fuck
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>>736561257
YAR HAR FIDDLE DEE DEE
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>>736561257
Streamers dropped it because it is not a roguelike. It is honestly more like Darkest Dungeon 1 than anything else. There is so much management between runs, going through items, fishing for items, doing quests, etc that it is basically a campaign.

Slay the Spire, for example, is just get on and do runs. This is "Okay, I need to run this place with this class and while I do that I need to use this sidequest item and I gotta get this passive so I can breed it to combo with this one item I've been holding for weeks because it'll let me beat this one other challenge..."
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look at this cat
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>>736561785
how the fuck does anyone actually get probed by those retards
>10 hp so it dies to a breeze
>low movement so 2 turns isn't scary
>only charms from one direction, the direction you'd want to protect anyway
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>>736560835
>Interact with Steven fetus three times
>He just fucks with me
>Walk away once and get pulled back in and made to take the deja vu hit
Nah man fuck this game sometimes.
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>>736562081
Take a shower, DJ Bill
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>>736561870
I got Forbidden Famine'd before the patch and still survived because Arthur also did something that gave himself like 30 stacks of Burn. Truly chaospilled.
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>>736562081
see >>736561863
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>>736562061
Those are some big and stupid milkies
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>>736562081
For me, it's
>big UFO gets a turn
>spawns a prober behind me
>it immediately gets a turn
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>>736561958
It's also a long game, even if you're lucky like pizzapasta man and don't wipe a single run it took 6 sessions for the first credits, even if they like the game they are ruled by engagement so change to something different
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>>736562147
Erm excuse me anon, Edmund said thats an optional disorder fully in your control so clearly that cant have happened
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>>736562147
But anon! -1 cost on all colorless spells!
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>>736562483
Big UFOs are actual bullshit desu senpai
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>>736562483
It's always the big UFOs. Fuck them all
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>>736562515
Yeah, if you are doing sidequests and not just rushing to roll credits it takes a while, and then if you wanna do more difficulties then it takes even longer.
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>>736562081
There's plenty of things in this game that makes cats move on their own.
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>>736561958
it's a japanese style roguelike.
see shiren the wanderer, mystery dungeon, zettai hero project, void terrarium.
the focus is more on longterm resource management and knowing when to cut your losses vs "reach the bottom and win"
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>Make another attempt at Act 2
>My Hunter gets Luck Swing
>Whiffs killing blows constantly at the wrong moment causing me to take chip damage
>Eventually make it to the bunker with my team in tatters
>First map
>Enemy Robot cat goes first, melees a nuke which blows up and shoots a rock into my Fighter on the far side of the map and downs him
>well at least they have no more ranged optio-
>Theres also a bishop who goes immeadiately next and uses diagonal lightning with infinite range to take out my ranger
>seconds away from alt+F4 at this point
>Manage to somehow scrape past but wipe on the next fight
>Figure I'm taking too much chip damage from the desert stage and need to mitigate this with heals before going into the bunker
>Bring a priest, take some licks but go into Bunker with decent HP on most cats sans the priest who takes too many hits in the boss fight
>Priest goes down but should be good, he's taken one hit but he's way over there on the map so should be fi-
>Cultist runs next to him and suicides
>Atomic kitty kicks a rocks diagonally right into the corpse and gibs it
>Try to hedge my bets at my three surviving cats, give the neverstone to the stray so I can focus my XP on the rest of the team
>Wipe at Johnny when I get overwhelmed by his zombie guys, can't DPS enough to take them out and my cats are too worn out by the lack of heals
>Of course no fucking healing items are dropping

Any tips onegaisemasu? I'm already checking ranges and using ctrl, but Bunker is kicking my ass. I'm doing bunker runs to fill up on decent gear so I can gear my cats before heading out.
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>>736562750
Does this mean No Equipment On Entry chapters in the DLC
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Do you have any special cats that you genuinely wish you could have saved from death?
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>path of the monk on butcher
>fists of fate
holy shit
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>>736562935
The part where your Cleric nearly got murdered by the Desert boss tells me you’re having a bit of a tactics issue. Which boss was it?
Also Bishops are rare and easily the most fucked of all enemies in the bunker, if you see a bishop hat on the ground you need to make sure it is dead ASAP.
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>>736562935
>Any tips onegaisemasu?
Soul link necromancer is a huge boon in the Johnny fight.
Also it's a risk but you can make the cultists into zealots by spamming the map with leech familiars so Johnny can't mind rape or super blast everyone. Also the Necromancer can stay topped up by leeching units through the desert letting you focus on healing your other units
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>>736557531
That would be pretty neat but you know people would just troll the shit out of it by sending either omega-imbred cats that are barely ambulatory blobs of defects, hacked cats with 99 in every stats, or cats with the Loner.
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>>736561958
Don't say it's not a roguelike in these threads n th wrong day or the meatriders are going to gang up on you.
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>>736562935
Make sure you have a good source of water to deal with the attrition you're taking in the desert. The water spit collarless skill that appears on cats will remove heatwave at the cost of 1 damage and it's much easier to find than the scant few water items you have at this stage (old hose and water feeder). You can also use mage to provide water since freezing something affected by heat wave will just drench them instead
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>>736562935
The main thing is just learning the ins and outs of the desert. It's a fairly punishing first area but as you master the game you learn how to barely ever take damage in it. The priest is a pretty good training wheel for the desert so you did good there.

Bunker is the hardest area of the act. The bishops and the super fast robot cats are truly punishing for what is the standard stat range you are at when you first enter that area. I think you're the same anon I already gave this advice to, but one fighter, one hunter and a maximum of one high concept class like Druid, Psychic, Jester or Tinkerer (or just none) is the ideal team composition to do well in it at the start.

As for any specific advice inside the bunker, I doubt there's anything you don't know already. Look out for bishop hats and don't let cultists get to them. Try to avoid letting cultists enter the radioactive water. With bumblefoot never do anything that kills corpses (Don't make the mistake I once did and just click on Pestilence willy nilly) and with Johnny, know the balancing act and block the cultists from the 5 possible spots to wash Johnny.

Again, bunker is the hardest area of the act. Once you're done with that, I imagine you'll be cruising through it. (The Moon has some bullshit, but nowhere near the same extent)
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>>736562935
Johnny is hard to fight by out-DPS-ing his summons until you’re lategame with well-bred cats. The thing is that he will only summon up to 3 at a time, then he does nothing.
What you need to do is prepare with ways to keep them off of Johnny, whether that’s blockading him with objects/bodies, knockback abilities, charm, fear, sleep/freeze/petrify etc. Blocking with weak familiars isn’t a good idea though, since cultists will promote if they get a kill.
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>>736563106
Hope it wasn't the room with one bishop and two nurse bots, that one's nightmarish if you can't get rid of the cats at least as fast as possible
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>Got a -1 Constitution Primordial Dwarf
>i said meh, im waiting for the Kaiju for Crazy, lets try necro whit this little lad
>get Last Grasp as ability
>HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>pic is at run end

also having two of the lil' kitties in the team helped a lot whit the loot, finally got the first Zodiac gun.
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didn't even notice my hunter got obliterated until it was too late
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>>736560719
>get the Loner quest early game so it sends me to the Graveyard
>Kept waiting around for the Angry Face for funny synergies
>Literally Angry Face was the very last item Beanies sent me while I'm doing the Nuke chain
>say fuck it and just do Act 1 solo
Rolling Summon Shade and having two cats with gats made it pretty easy, except when Dybuk possessed my shade and he started blasting.
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>>736562935
Lucky Swing or whatever it's called should be fucking removed from the game. Or moved into the disorder pool under a different name. Why the fuck would anyone want to miss 25% of the time? Hunters already accumulate high luck so the +50% luck buff isn't that good.
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>>736563421
>Death Shroud
Reeeeeee I have seen that thing once ever and never again.
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>>736563545
There's equipment and Hunter passive that guarantees hit
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>>736563545
your hunter probably already has a third eye or the superior jesus version of it anyway, or if not you're probably running bullseye
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the noises the stacy clones make when they die depresses the fuck out of me
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>>736563103
>fists of fate
This shit is absurd, I had a Monk roll it as its starting skill while running Act 3 and I just dipped out of there after the Labs so he could breed that shit into everyone.
Now like half my cats have FoF and it's seriously broken the game in half, I kinda regret it.
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>>736563558
i was holding it until this very moment, feels real good.
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>>736563545
>>736563608
Also Mark guarantees hit
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>>736562935
Also, >>736563329 here and this >>736563393 is big. You want to block the 5 spots I marked with x with stuff like corpses or just your own guys. The cultist needs to start his turn next to you to be able to throw you and then wash Johnny, so there's plenty of wiggle room. It's about focusing on Johnny but getting rid of Cultists as necessary.

Also, similarly to how radical rat becomes exponentially harder if you're in a firestorm, Johnny becomes exponentially harder if you're in some sort of weather that always keeps him wet. If that somehow happens to you, don't take it as the average Johnny fight kek. You just got fucked by RNG.
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>>736563329
Core is downright easy compared to Bunker, and the boss is easier than Johnny. Bunker and Core almost feel swapped.
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>>736563545
It’s really not that bad. The luck they have means it’s *less* than 25%, and they become an absolute crit machine.
Also, it’s implemented as a debuff, which means it can be cleansed off of them and they get the rest of the fight with full accuracy.
Also also that’s why I always try to keep a monocle at home (along with cats starting with arrow flurry or heavy shot); always hit negates miss chances.
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>>736562935
cacti create water tiles when they "die", it's better to delay ending a fight in order to get a cat in there to regen
bring a thief, all the robots are royally fucked by shield piercing
bring a tank to knock the cultists around, they can only wash Johnny on the 5 tiles next to his brain, or take a summon druid to flood the map (this will likely turn cultists into zealots but it means they won't go for Johnny)
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Why can Johnny only use his abilities while wet?
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>>736563668
>Also, similarly to how radical rat becomes exponentially harder if you're in a firestorm, Johnny becomes exponentially harder if you're in some sort of weather that always keeps him wet. If that somehow happens to you, don't take it as the average Johnny fight kek. You just got fucked by RNG.
I thought Johnny being wet didn't actually do anything?
My first few Act 2 clears I was rocking the Old Hose RIP that item, haven't seen it for weeks and even spraying down half the area Johnny couldn't do anything but cry.
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>>736563668
>Johnny becomes exponentially harder if you're in some sort of weather that always keeps him wet.
Oh my god that counts for him? Truly a Steakmund moment.
Suddenly my first trip being in a goddamn Firestorm doesn’t seem so bad.
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>>736563823
My understanding is that wet Johnny means he can do psychic shit.
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>>736563791
If he's not wet the nogging is prone to overheating which is very painful
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>>736563823
Yeah I have never seen Johnny use his psychic abilities unless cultist was washing him and I bring hose to 80% of my Core runs
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>>736563626
As it should, Stacies just didn't deserve any of this...
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>>736559037
The only really useful butcher abilities are basically life steal, give yourself strength, and the aoe spin. Everything else is wowwee dogshit status effects or 25% hp self own to do dogshit. Bowling is the only fun passive and even that is super situational that only works if you have fast enough movement to setup.
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why does the bunker lead to hell anyway
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>>736563864
>>736563934
I stand corrected, then. Every time I've been in such a situation, I've done everything in my power to not have him get wet. I remember turning tiles into lava once. I assumed the game was a bitch like that.
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>>736563864
Have you seen him using his abilities without cultist washing him?

>>736563942
How about thec skill of eating the enemy and taking damage equal to the enemy's HP?
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>>736534297
Of all the songs to get stuck in my head
why’d it have to be FLUSH?
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>>736561421
>running mage as damage dealer
Mage only deals significant damage in a team context where everyone spams 1 cost spells so he can nuke with latent energy.
Alternatively you could argue that feeding mana or lowering your other cat's mana costs is additional damage he's contributing, albeit indirectly.
Magic weakness is a meme, even more when you realize that, unlike Marked, it does not make attacks ignore shield.
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>>736564042
Cause it's easily in the top 3.
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>>736563958
dug too deep
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>>736563958
It's Core, center of earth. Bunker is underground

Also there was the big picture of the bunker cult, drawings you see there, the Core's Coven being cultist mass and similarities to The End. The Bunker's cult is End of the world cult and they worship nukes and mass destruction and prophecy of the Beast/Mother
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>>736564042
Because shoveling shit is a universal experience
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>>736564093
Possibly the number 2
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>>736564043
I know mage is mainly support, but it’s pretty inconsistent as to what that support is.
Can I count on them to supply mana to teammates? Are they going to be freezing instead? Fuck, they rolled one of those "do bad thing to all units in a circle around you" abilities. On the class that really doesn’t want to be a frontliner.
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>>736562935
Piggybacking off >>736563740
I cleared bunker for the first time yesterday. My team was Thief/Cleric/Hunter/Neverstone Tank. Thief was the MVP. Thief had Sharp Nail which inflicted bleed and ignored shield, this with Pack of Blades allowed Thief to put 42 bleed on Johnny which shredded through his health. Thief killed the cultists quickly too.
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>>736564210
Is that why Down in the Devil is also always on brain rotation
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>>736564042
for the it's down with the devil
>I SAW SOME SEVEN HEADED ZOMBIE GUYS
>WITH EMPTY SOCKETS THERE INSTEAD OF EYES
>THEIR LITTLE ARMS WERE TINY SIZED
>SO MANY SIGHTS I CAN'T DESCRIBE
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is it possible to get a cat that looks just like stacy
I want to have a house of them
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>>736564754
Beanis... you have to learn to let go
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nice little bow on top
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>>736564195
>they worship nukes and mass destruction
Big emphasis on worship, they even jizz to nukes
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>>736564005
Thats actually a pretty good idea, someone tell steakmund
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Holy shit is that an entire 1 damage, assuming that it’s not rainy or the enemy is otherwise wet?
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>>736565131
I mean it can clear tall grass and you can bust out frozen enemies so it's got some utility.
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>>736564946
>Worse than a pig farm in June
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>>736563958
>bunch of people scared of nuclear war get in the bunker
>Benis uses the bunker to drop some of his experiments (bots, tumors, maybe even Johnny) and leaves it closed so they don't get out
>in their self isolation they lose their minds and focus on two things, one being digging deeper and the other turn into a cult of the end of days and worship nuclear annihilation
>the ones that dig too deep go straight to hell which is actually quite easily accessible, some of the most deranged cultists join it to summon their own way to bring annihilation
>the others keep on waiting to retake the earth once the nukes fly, aaaaany second now
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>>736564896

>Here comes the sad
>_______________________________________________________ SAD!
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>>736565131
>Haha time to help deactivate radical rat's bombs
>AWW FUCK
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>>736565379
>once the nukes fly, aaaaany second now
We'll see tonight, I guess
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why are 90% of the jurassic/end unlocks total dogshit? i've gotten a few and the only ones that weren't total disappointments were the fighter axe and hunter arrow
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>>736537061
I've avoided Mewgenics threads until I get the true ending so I dunno how much people have discussed it, but Holy Weapon+ is one of the most versatile and powerful attack abilities purely because you can mass heal enemies and then dish out twice your healing
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>The Loner with the peace symbol doesn't work
Welp, there goes a bunch of good items arbitrarily flushed down the drain. Yet, a different time when I was setting up a bunch of sacrificial cats to do the quest I accidentally had the mystical blindfold on my character and it caused the loner to miss all my allies (which makes sense) so I had a shitty team that failed that time. But this time, it clearly did 999 damage to the other cats and didn't reduce it to 0 like it says it should. If you're going to design your game with a bunch of autistic MTG style logic systems then make it consistent you fuck.
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Scary my GOAT
I was just gonna Butcher him to death anyway but I'll take my 6 round clear
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>>736554172
It is. You can win a whole run off stacking bonus moves with the alpha movement Cleric ability or whatever it's called
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>>736565562
They’re pretty much all based around letting you "splash" some class stuff on other classes. That said most of them are at least decent, what do you have a problem with in particular?
Necro's are shit as always though.
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>>736565839
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>>736565782
If it hits, it instakills no matter what.
If it misses, it doesn’t hit.
:^)
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>>736561257
piratebros...
not like this...
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>>736561257
EDMUND PLEASE, I'LL NEVER PIRATE YOUR GAMES A-CK!
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>getting close to The Mother
damn my team is kinda fucked I can't clear fast
>last chest
>Rocket Launcher
>got Dual Wield Fighter
oh yeah
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>>736565839
goddamnit
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>>736566332
huh, did it just clear the debuff randomly?
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>>736565839
>>736566332
Couldn't be patient and let doom do its thing?
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>>736566512
nta, but I'm pretty sure debuff don't transfer from sitting Bunga to standing Bunga
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>thief carried the lab
>level up gave sweetspot vs penetratie
>pick sweetspot
>realizes I should've picked penetrate
>kill stacy and hop aboard the teleporter
>thief gets 1 damage spit mutation with 3 basic attacks
>mfw this synergizes with the sweetspot ability
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>>736566512
lots of Mewgenics bosses do that because Edmund is a cocksucker control freak who doesn't want the game to be broken TOO easily
>>736566536
a little tard strength never hurt anyone
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ZARATANA, GIRL, YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY BE USEFUL AND STOP JUST WALKING INTO MY GUYS
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>>736566908
>not choosing pyrophina, who is similarly useless but doesn't friendly fire as much
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>>736566512
>>736566703
The frequency that the bosses clear debuffs is so fucking cringe. debuffs aren't even strong. I've never seen a single strong bleed build. And fire/poison are mid/slightly good if a boss is taking multiple turns, otherwise it's shit.
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>>736562935
Farm bottles in the desert. Bring 2, put one on cleric since he usually can't self-heal and use the cleric to heal your cats. You can refill water bottles by stepping in water, and destroying that round 10HP cactus creates a water tile.
With a cleric on team the only time your entire team should not be at full HP is after a boss/miniboss fight.
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>>736564481
Yes, we all wonder if kissing our sister is so wrong.
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>>736566985
>fire lizard
>becomes friendly
>doesn't do much friendly fire
Edmund you HACK
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>>736566908
She is here to help and trying her best! :D
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The "YOU DIE" near the start of Scrambled reminds me of CDI Ganon
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>>736567651
I wish scrambled actually played in the rift, shouldve been the first fight's theme
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3 losses in a row on hard mode moon and I want to give up
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>>736566908
Should have chosen Pyrophina
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>>736566985
>going through the cancer that is crater + moon with a kaiju
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>>736561257
>>736566138
Kek
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I am going to savescum the nuke quest if something goes wrong. I will not slow my chewing.
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>>736568823
nuke quest is a victory lap, you only fail if you suck
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>>736566908
>tfw reaching the rift for the first time
brehs... I miss my kaiju
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Why did Eddy confirm the junglecat class and not the scatomancer class?
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>>736568412
I think she attacked a total of 3 times and none of them were useful
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>Scrapper's Backpack: When you break an item, recover it at the end of the battle with 1 durability.
Great, lets use it with a weapon and the other tinkerer unlock that I got for completing all areas.
>This item will not restore equipment in the trinket slot.
Fuck you too, glad I checked the wiki
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The only place in Act 3 I've ever died is the infinite. I don't get the spewer obsession.
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>>736567557
It's a wonderful bit of irony, isn't it.
>>736568473
I am thiefpilled and also had a butcher with hack who deleted crater+moon enemies, my biggest trouble was getting the hands to hit the moon boss and not pyrophina's fat ass
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>>736568945
Take a shower, DJ Bill
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lewd
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>>736565245
Don't forget cooking meat pickups for your fighter/monk/butcher
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>>736569581
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>>736567224
>destroy cactus with ranged damage lest you take damage from thorns and defeat the purpose
>oh btw you also have to do something about the cactus's corpse (one of the few if not the only destructible prop that leaves a corpse) so that's another action spent
>also you have to move over it and hope the routing doesn't leave your cat in an awful position or park the cat in the pool, meaning you need more turns or means to displace/swap to remove heatstroke from more cats
everything about the "intended" way to deal with heat is so obtuse and inefficient I seriously hope it's deliberate design to incentivize just not taking damage in the first place
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>put monk collar on cat
>cat starts squinting
what did ed mean by this
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>>736569970
me chinese, me play joke
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>>736569854
lmfao classic
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think its possible to three man the creator on hard mode?
my thief's corpse got kinda eaten by The Mother
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>you get two kittens if your cat dies with armor specialist wearing cat rib
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>you can guarantee a neverstone if you just fucking kill one of your cats in the very first room of any chapter 1
why did no one tell me this earlier
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>>736570490
because that's mean :(
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>>736561257
>>736566138
Out fucking skilled
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its been a couple in-game years and ive not once seen one of the special strays. im aware that they exist, but aside from isaac i have no idea what they even are. am i just really unlucky or are they actually that rare?
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>>736570858
Apparently Appeal doesn't affect it at all and the chance is only dictated by how many days have passed, with a whopping 0.1% chance at 1460 in-game days.
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>Refreshes basic action on every musical spell
>Musical spells cost half mana
>Give 5MP in a cross area for 3 mana or give all allies 1 shield for 2 mana
>Gain int every time I cast two spells
>Can take 5 mana from an ally once per turn

I'm not entirely sure why but my heals were also getting stronger each time I used them so on turn 1 I was able to give +7 power up and max out mana.
I had a psychic with 30 mana that could give an ally an extra turn for 10 mana so I just gave my DPS (butcher) 3 turns in a row and fucked shit up.

What a busted loadout.
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>>736571018
cumulatively? or is that when it caps out
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>>736570858
>its been a couple in-game years
Give it a couple more and maybe you'll have a realistic chance
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>>736571141
Yeah, that's when it caps out. The chances are just ridiculously low (which I think is fine for the reference strays but honestly I feel like the cryptid strays and random animal strays should've been the more common ones)
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>>736570858
>>736571018
is a beaver special?
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>>736570778
Love anon runs getting immortalized
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>>736571220
Yup, it counts as one. Congrats anon, you should buy a scratch-off ticket next
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>>736571265
is there a list of these somewhere?
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>>736571289
https://mewgenics.wiki.gg/wiki/Stray_Cats#Special_Strays
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>>736571321
damn now I'm even more annoyed that the beaver never bred
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Are there any other abilities I should farm before the fecalmancer comes out?
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>>736571197
>>736571215
fuck me, guess i better put it out of my mind
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>>736570858
>he hasn't gotten the sonichu stray
you aren't a lucklet, right anon?
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>>736571197
I wish there was a way to see how many days in to my save file I am. I got slenderman yesterday but I don't remember how many days have passed. Definitely at least 4-5 years in game time
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>>736571594
the WHAT
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I'm surprised and disappointed that the game had an actual calendar but seemingly no holiday events. Let my cats go kidnap Santa
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>>736571753
Imagine if Butch gave you contracts to kidnap certain elderly people or local celebrities and paid you in coins and custom Butch items
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>>736571753
>>736571963
>santa house boss
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>>736571995
>Santa Paws
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>>736571686
>he didn't get the sonichu stray and give it the odd medallion to get the secret chris chan event
Bro...
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>>736572169
I threw out the medallion it was cursed
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>>736571995
>>736572030
what would his attacks/gimmick be?
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>>736571321
Why is Ed and Tyler immune to ice anyways
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>>736571995
>>736572030
>You have to fight him while meteor raining because it's burning coal hitting your home
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>>736572451
Probably pooping and farting :DDDD
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Does the ribbon that Tink gives you do anything? I've been holding on to it.
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>>736572451
He throws gifts around the field.
Attacking the gifts can either yield something good for your team or nuke all your cats.
And you HAVE to attack them as they will block your path.
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>>736572478
Yeah they are Californian so that isn't lore accurate
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>>736572549
It's fancy._______________________________
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>>736572549
You can obliterate the second phase of the final boss if a cat wearing the bow attacks it
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>>736572451
>can hold one of your cats on his sack like Lenny
>collects tech each turn to pull "better gifts" which are weapons
>he has to reach his sack to pull weapons so you can avoid getting shoot in the face and save your cat from asphyxiation by hitting it or knocking it back
>has a naughty list move that puts all stats down on one car each round
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>>736572615
>Ed's stray doesn't have any of his disorders either
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>>736571753
>April's fools where Arthur appears on all boss battles, even the infinite
>Valentine's gives you another persuasion device
>Easter all pick ups are replaced with eggs and Tracy wears bunny ears threatening you if you laugh
>new years has a fireworks weather that gives random fear to all units
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wtf am i supposed to do with this
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Got my box but still need to do sidequest achievements lmao.
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>>736573243
literally anything but preferably thief
if your stat spread is decent then the -2 doesn't matter and you can also offset it with unlocks like the collarless unlocks anyway
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>>736573243
ʷᵗᶠ ᵃᵐ ᶦ ˢᵘᵖᵖᵒˢᵉᵈ ᵗᵒ ᵈᵒ ʷᶦᵗʰ ᵗʰᶦˢ
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I've got myself into a rhythm now and it's almost impossible to pull myself away from mewgenics
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>>736570778
Beautiful, saved
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>>736573243
-2 on all stats when you have built sevens is really not an issue at all, the luck is amazing
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>>736573243
Make them a thief
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>>736573243
make them a hunter
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>>736573243
Luck is the best stat in the game, this is basically a third passive ability
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>>736567651
JOIN ME, TINK
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>get random shimmer
>cat gets a reroll mutation
>get him back home to breed
>he and another cat immediately kill each other in a fight
comfort is placebo
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>>736573730
deserved for being a tranime freak
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>>736573730
God giveth, God taketh
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>>736573425
kek
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tinker's two biggest flaws are that it wants to be tanky but isn't tanky, and it's an item-based class that disincentives putting weapons on it. you should be able to equip a jitte or something on him without losing half the class' functionality.
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got real quiet all of a sudden
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>>736576265
I was trying to get a captcha but it kept automatically saying it was expired and restarting the counter before I could do anything
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>https://files.catbox.moe/yoqjx4.jpg
I know someone posted something similar before, but I don't have the game on english so I can't guess by the length of the options like the other guy did :)
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>>736576265
we're watching to see if dr. beanies successfully sets off a nuke
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>>736573536
I appreciate Luck being a stat in this game that is actually fucking useful instead of the usual for RPGs where it’s typically "oh if you hack the game to get the maximum possible luck of 99 then you have a 10% chance of getting up to 20% more worthless currency from loot, this does not affect equipment drops."
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>>736565839
Does Bunga have a special death animation if you kill him in a single move before he gets off his seat?
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>>736576318
Middle is future
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>look up the results for the hole event
>If the cats give up looking for it the cat comes back as an enemy
>Fucking cat had my stunning beard
I'm so mad I even reset the event so I could fail it....
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Havent played since first week
Any meaningful updates and/or mods out?
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>>736576559
Thx
Lets see how my retardmaxxing psychic does in the future
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>>736576610
Arthur is no longer an atom splitting cunt. Also there's some spreadsheet autism cat management mod(s) out I think
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>>736576605
>>If the cats give up looking for it the cat comes back as an enemy
Only sometimes as an enemy. Had mine randomly come back as an ally for the boss encounter absolutely loaded with mutations.
I don't know if you'll get it back if you kill it while it's your enemy but you might be able to like when you accidentally gib a charmed cat
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>>736576838
No, if the text is a specific way it means it'll always be an enemy. I got the bad rare option instead of the rare good.
I thought I had to fail it, but that's just not true.
I'm not getting him back man. My team is tinkerer, psychic and a monk. It's just done for
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>>736576356
I'd go as far as to say that luck might actually be a bit OP in this game. Super Luck alone damn near breaks the game.
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>>736561421
Mage feels bad because all their abilities except one doesn't have any stat scaling unlike the physical dps classes like Hunter. Latent Energy is a must-have passive to make Mage a dps hard-carry
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>>736571024
Damage boost on druid boosts their basic attack heals
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>>736534297
It's time to nuke the Christ Child; will post infrequent run updates. One of my all time favorite games for sure
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>>736572662
No wear either, so you can use as much as you want
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>>736577180
I don't think the Jester skills are intended to be balanced. The other passive is an extra turn every round for god's sake.
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>>736577301
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See ? This fucker is evil. There's no way I can get him back. God I'm annoyed
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>>736577301
Good luck anon!
Remember to not kill the last phase too fast so you get the extra dialogue
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>>736577492
There was extra dialogue? Son of a bitch. I can just build it again, huh?
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>>736577563
Ah fuck, I thought you were in the middle of the run.

>>736577486
He might rejoin your team if his corpse survives? I have never failed or succeeded the hole event so I'm just guessing
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>>736577746
Different anon, my bad. I nuked creator last week
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>>736576318
>negative intelligence
>doesn't make others smarter
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>>736577746
He doesn't. He just stays dead and gone forever.
Had this happen before ggtthuaaasjivirkd
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This item set is retardly OP. Having stuff like this in the item pool, but making quest rewards one and done is so fucking stupid to me
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Is Edmund stupid? Why would a spell cost only -1 mana? You mean I use it and gain 1 mana? Is that balanced?
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i did the creator on hard to procrastinate the nuke. fuck off doctor boner i'm not doing the jar ritual again
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>Lose a run
>Home radio starts playing Stray Cat
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>>736577926
The run to The Rift is pretty fun desu
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>>736577902
>PLEASE ADD MORE USELESS BLOAT TO THE GAME EDDIE!
Are Eddie fans actually this cucked?
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>>736577902
I prefer this one
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>>736577301
Showering the battlefield with thousands of sparkles isn't a bad start
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>>736577915
>TCG autist discovers a video game.jpg

Deductive reasoning nigga
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>>736551965
the chance is fine, the problem is that it's less likely to work on higher difficulties, it should be more likely to work instead
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>>736578073
I don't even want more bloat; juat add the quest items to the pools!

>>736578082
>get this and the beard on my first 10 hours
>never again 250 hours in
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>>736562935
I always try to give clerics hp regen items or red drink since they have trouble healing themselves even outside of desert
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvcTWRt82o
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>>736577902
>making quest rewards one and done is so fucking stupid to me
it's just the persuasion device thoughbeit
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>>736556074
You also need to go down the pipe
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Are the sidequest reward items even worth it or do people just fo it for the achievements?
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>>736578664
The rewards can be pretty good, like the Redacted one and the party detonator.
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>>736578549
Maybe my luck is bad then. I haven't seen a single quest item drop in all the time I've been playing and read that quest items aren't put into the item pool after clearing those quests and you would have to rerun quests for copies. That was a while ago, though.
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>>736577902
Had this set on a Mage with Teach and the trinket stone that makes your spells cost less. Also had a Fighter with Juiced+, was critting for 300+
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>>736578664
I do it for the money if the conditions aren't too bad, you can get a ton of coins from quests that go to the 4th stage of an act
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>>736578171
Adding more items to an item pool bloats the item pool. Most quest items are pure trash and worse than the average rare/legendary item. It would not be good to add them to the greater item pool.
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>>736579014
What if they were localized to a secondary hard mode node?
Like at this fork where you can get a rare or location item
What if you replaced the second sometimes with a Dr Beanis icon and you can get one of the lab rewards or something suitably techy.
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(it's a gas)
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>>736579164
Nta, but I like that idea because it would make taking the nob-exclusive path more alluring, but I like gambling.
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>>736579462
*non-exclusive
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>>736579164
>What if they were localized to a secondary hard mode node?
That would solve the bloat problem, because anyone who doesn't want the quest items can just ignore that path. But Eddie loves bloat, so he would just put it all in one pool. That solution is spiritually antithetical to Ed.
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>getting ready to finally get the throbbing king's heart so I can do act III
>demolish the alley and pick up some great passives
>randomly get an event
>it's blood frenzy
>on my fucking psychic
and then the blood frenzy cat gibbed the quest item carrier in the caves twice in a row what a fucking good game
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>>736579639
that's how it goes, if a cat gets blood frenzy you're going to have to kill it unless it's a support and literally can't kill anything
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>>736579639
You don't like the slot machine? Blood frenzy has been in my genepool ever since I got it
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>>736579639
Skill Issue
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