They need to bring back Time Eater
>>736543257stop trying to shoehorn coomshit into everythingseek help
>>736543257For what purpose? It's literally the most hated boss in STS1
woah!
>>736543326>coomshitIf that turns you on then you have your own problems. It's just a silly meme.
>Silent cards>Regent cards>end up playing Necrobinder like Ironclad because Orichalcum and Gorget means I don't actually want to blockWhat a weird deck
>>736543729Necro damage builds (as in necro doing the damage not osty) are overlooked but it does really well
>>736543802it locks her out of some great cards like friendship and shared fate. she also has shit for building strength.
>>736543257ayo id play tf outta this game if it had that dlss 5 ngl
does anyone know if Act 2b and Act 1b will have unique events? Does Act 1b have different events from Act 1a?
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>>736544903don't click this
what's the green relic two pockets below the kunai in the top left?
>>736544919Oh shit I just downloaded a dolphin porn zip bomb wtf do I do!?
>>736543326lmao its a meme retard
>>736543729Holy bloat batman jesus.You don't have to pick literally every card you see you know?There's a skip button if you're getting offered bad cards/cards that don't syngergize with your strategy.
>>736544947>wtf do I doenjoy
>>736544956>You don't have to pick literally every card you see you know?This nigga doesn't trust in the heart of the cards
>>736544956Would rather draw a mediocre card than a status or curse card.
>>736544956>slim deck nerdthis aint STS1, chum. we play fat decks this time around.
>>736545034Yo mama plays with fat decks.Ha! Got em'
>>736544956>act 3 boss was Doormaker>made it out with 56 HPI don't see the problem
>>736543257OP, the meme is that DLSS5 makes things look worse, not better.
>>736544921meal ticket?
>>736543257looks like a nortubel character
>>736543441low t
>>736545320>he doesn't want to fuck the slug monstercouldn't be me
>>736543372Not enough enemies punish card spam currently. There's hunter killer and form 1 of experiment for skills only. Time eater was hated by people who didn't build their deck with answers in mind.
>>736545513and hunter killer is hated too.yeah just build your deck for big cards oh wait there's a single digit number of them for any given character and the rest are low cost spam cardsalso enjoy having extreme energy issues while you build this trash.
>stuck with silent on a10 for 15 runs>beat it 2nd try with ironcladwell that was easy>inb4 MUH BETA BRANCHdon't care, beat doormaker turn 1 anyway
>>736545689How about just build your deck so that you don't need to play 5 cards to get the value that other scaling decks get out of 1 card, retard.
>>736544956That's not a very fat deck tbdesu
>>736545754Because spamming shivs is fun
>>736545872Then spam your shivs but have a plan B. You have 3 full acts to do so before the act 3 boss. Did you always just quit the run when you saw time eater in the first game?
Speaking about BAD cards. Drums of battle top it for me for several reasons>same rarity as battle trance, ergo being insanely outclassed by card of same character and same rarity >every single time they tried to push “exhaust top card of your deck” it failed massively There are bad cards and then there’s Curse level card like drums
>>736545976Nah. I'll just auto-lose sometimes then go again. I'm not the anons shitting about these enemies. I force builds every time because it's fun.
>>736546026This should be a skill with exhaust and it should exhaust the top card once
>>736546026If they gave Ironclad some form of deck manipulation it would be better but they gave it all to Reagent.
>>736546026the idea is just massively shit because unless you are using headbutt to put a status card on the top of your deck you are burning shit just for the off-chance you draw forgotten ritual
Defending Vaaku is a sign of a contrarian. The kind of person where if a relic existed that reduced your max hp to 1 but gave you 1 draw every 300 cards played would defend it as a "pleb filter" with unrecognized potential because it works with infinites or whatever.
>>736546139I feel the same way about neurosurge.Some powers just feel like curses.
>>736546026It could maybe work if1. there were cards that benefited you when exhausted (like sentinel)2. there were more cards that put other cards on top than just buttheadSpeaking of which is warcry even in this game?
>>736546209Nah neurosurge is extremely powerful so the downside feels appropriate
>>736544921The snake that gives you 3 strength when you use a flask, I'd say.
>>736546026It's the worst meme on clad. Cinder blows big chunks for the same reason. Clad needs more than just fucking headbutt for top of deck manipulation. I'd shoot somebody in front of their own mother to have pommel strike draw one more card both upgraded and unupgraded, and have you put a card back on top of your deck like warcry did in the first game. Then also make thunderclap do the same warcr5y effect along with its current effects.THEN with 3 common-rarity sources of top-of-deck manipulation I will pick up havoc or cinder or drums of battle.
>>736546075Even if you're forcing a build, adding a few cards to round it out and soften counters lets you do better with the build and survive longer/win with it. Do you not want to do better with the build you're forcing?
>>736546212No they deleted warcry
>>736545297yeah that has got to be it
>>736546398>Do you not want to do better with the build you're forcing?No
>>736546026It's good for hallway fights at least. Lack of deck manipulation can suck, but the effect isn't game ending, as I've found with Toasty Mittens for example. I don't care if I lose 1/3 boomerang swords sometimes when I get free demon form lite, and I don't need any other scaling powers really when I get free strength each turn.
when the stars lined up
>>736543257We have Door at home
Defect should have creative ai in his default deck
>>736546510It sounds more like you don't want to bother thinking about your build rather than you not wanting your build to do well. These aren't the same thing.
>>736546663I just want to have fun, Anon. If I am playing a poison build and get wrecked by artifact I just go again. It's not that complicated.Chilling at A7 in single player and A10 in multiplayer at the moment. I am in no rush.
NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE
>>736544951Dont even try talking to those cultists. They really dont care what you say
>>736546764>Snakebite+
>>736546759>I just want to have funAll other things divorced from the question, is it more fun for your build to do better or more fun for it to do worse?
>>736544056Friendship works just fine with the scythe and bury
>>736546804If you really want to know I took a copy of Accelerant on floor 3 because I assumed I'd get poison at some point, and the game only offered me Snakebite+ on the second to last floor before the act 3 boss. But I was so strong that it didn't even matter that I was hauling around an extra curse for 90% of the run.
i won A10 on Ironclad literally once and it was a fluke with a meme Jackpot buildno matter how much i try it's not happening againon beta branch btw, always get killed by the second third floor boss
>>736546343This is genuinely angers me because I can’t actually understand logic behind devs actions. I can understand when one card has bad stats because devs assumed it will work with x,y,z but it doesn’t But how on earth can you introduce FOUR cards that work with top deck(drums, Cinder, havoc and cascade) then DELETE deck manipulation from character and not introduce ANY way to play around it. Can someone please explain to me what were they thinking
I like auto-battler decks.
>>736543257stupid sexy slug
God Merl is so incredibly reddit, I can't stand him even if he's a good player I could learn a lot from.
>>736546810Your thought process is too binary. It's more fun to execute my build idea whether or not I win or lose. I don't need an arbitrary goal of completing Act 3 to have fun.
>>736546965>explain what they were thinkingProbably that clad's character is a mindless cruel killing machine at this point so they have cards that potentially get a lot of raw power but with little control because it matches his character. I hate it but that's probably the logic and I don't think they'll do much to mitigate it within his deck library. "Card you can't strategize much with" in a game entirely built around strategy is so lame.
>>736546965Is Ironclad the character with fewer deck build archetypes?How do people even play exhaust decks with him? "True Grit" and "Howl from Beyond"?
if i havent played the first one should i play this one
>>736547110>cruel killing machine at this point so they have cards that potentially get a lot of raw power but with little controlso in their minds he's an A0 character
>>736547089>you're being too binaryI'm asking about basic motivations here. It's going to be binary. After that you factor in other things. You just don't want to answer the question.>It's more fun to execute my build idea whether or not I win or loseYeah that's great, but would it be more fun if the build you made did WELL, or NOT WELL?
>>73654495640 isn't that bad and doorfag burns your cardsthe amount of enemies that add 1 billion status cards to your pool actually incentivizes not having a small deck in 2>oops, instead of any of the 12 cards in your deck, you just drew an entire hand of parasites>you will now take 35 damage :^)
>>736546987>a10>30 minuteswtfand how did you even win with those cards??
>>736546026>>736546139>>736546343>make Cinder, Havoc and Drum of Battle all draw the card first then let you choose to exhaust a card in the handHaving it be the random top card and then subsequently needing to have drawn another card on the same turn to prevent it from randomly bricking your deck is fucking awful. The defensive Ironclad exhaust cards got it right as well (i.e. targetted/controlled exhaust via True Grit [admittedly needs to be upgraded], Second Wind, Burning Pact) so i don't know what they were thinking with Cinder/Havoc/Drums.
>>736544903GG, easy run
>>736547206>I'm asking about basic motivations herefun>would it be more fun if the build you made did WELL, or NOT WELL?It doesn't matter
>>736547179In their minds they want to make his deck reflect his character. Unfortunately in this strategy game his character is someone who can barely speak at this point. Shit like dead branch in 1 showed that you can make randomized effects good, the question is whether or not they want to give clad that potential.
>>736544903>>736547305thanks for the game, I didn't scale so good
>>736547252>Draw Hellraiser>Win>There is no step 3Goopy defends were quite helpful 25+ block for 1 energy at the end.
>>736543326When did your penis fall off and slither away? The same day as your sense of humor?
>>736547110> clad's character is a mindless cruel killing machine at this pointClads character just like cards makes little coherence. Here’s perfectly fine when interacting with non-hostile creatures of the spire and his multiplayer cards(their canonicity is questionable of course) is all about protecting other. But he’s killing machine when it comes to architect and vakuu
Is it me or does StS2 have way more "clearly superior choice" than StS1?I never minmaxxed events and relics in the first one but now every other event or ancient has a clearly superior choice and one that makes no sense to be picked
>>736547313>it's just as fun if I die in 3 hallway combats every time as it would be if the build I made worked out wellSo you're just lying then.
>>736547353how did the crab, queen and doormaker not absolutely destroy and counter your hellraiser deck??
>>736547403>their canonicity is questionable of courseIf it's a true clad card and not a colorless one then I'd say it contributes to canon. And I agree that they're all over the place on his character, particularly when many events imply that the player's character is making informed decisions and interacting intelligently with other characters in the spire.
>>7365475040.99 doormaker
>>736547338If you have mutliple Necros in a group try to pick up doom stuff since a single No Escape scales incredibly well and multiple even more so.Alternatively Hang is a good way to scale, but it's a rare so you might not see it during the run.
>>736547424I think the anon just wants to experiment different decks/combos instead of chasing meta on a beta game? Is only meta fun in your eyes?
>>736547424I have never died in 3 hallway combats...I don't think I have ever lost in Act 1 either.Regardless, if I did lose in 3 hallway combats I would still go again until I get the build I am aiming for. I don't know why it's such a hard concept to grasp.Think of it like MTG and a combo deck. No matter how many times I lose, if I get that combo off once, it was worth it.
>>736546987How did you avoid not exhausting your cards vs the doorman with hellraiser?
>>736547529I'm not aware of beta-door maker what does he do?I killed him in turn two.
>>736547603
>>736547542that makes sense
>>736547603>release patchI'm playing on easymode apparently.
>be me>ironclad a10>lose 30 hp by floor 4 with shit card rewards>all (?) are enemies>strategy is either burning your cards or your hp>forced elite on every route>reach the boss>miraculous win>get bodied by the first bug in act 2this is my average a10 Ironclad runhow does this guy have more than 35% WR globally?
>>736547641New doorboss exhausts cards that were played in that turn
>>736547641He has thee stages that cycle1st every card played is exhausted 2nd you can draw cards during your turn 3rd you lose 1 energy when you play a card
I had not ONCE had a good target for this when I encounter this event.
>>736547723Devs really hate infinities huh?
stampede is pretty fun when your energy is behind your draw.
>>736547543I think that anon would in fact enjoy it more when the builds he makes do well and not eat shit. and in actuality what he finds more fun is not bothering with the mental load of considering ways to balance out a deck when he can just pick every shiv card he sees and run down a random path until he dies or wins.But he's a dishonest faggot who isn't willing to admit to that so he dances around the question.>>736547598And you would enjoy it more if you hit the combo than if you didn't, or you wouldn't be playing to get the combo off.
>>736547649If you exhaust all cards but pommel strikes and hellraiser you can set up infinite on second stage and kill him on 3rd
>>736547814>And you would enjoy it more if you hit the combo than if you didn't, or you wouldn't be playing to get the combo off.And what does that have to do with winning or losing?I will see some cards or relics and think "Oh I wonder how those interact" then try to build for that. Sometimes I don't get it and still win. Sometimes I get it and still lose. The outcome is irrelevant. The game is simply fun for me. I don't need to consider every eventuality of every potential enemy I might come across. I will either beat the enemy or I won't, and it doesn't impact my enjoyment.
>>736547989>what does that have to do with wining or losing?In the example where you compared your slay the spire deck builds losing and you restarting to an MTG combo deck?Where you explicitly said "No matter how many times I lose, if I get the combo off once, it was worth it"?You're asking me what your example(that specifically referenced how you'll lose until you succeed, and it is specifically when you succeed it was worth it) has to do with winning and losing?
>>736547762I just want some nice 3 Energy Attack to target with that Enchant. It would make me happy at least for a minute.
>bricks your deckthis shit is absolutely aids in a10
>>736543257That boss is lame as fuck. Limiting card use isn't a fun mechanic, it's just a lazy way to piss you off.
>>736548254Your whole initial point was that I should build for the eventualities of enemies I might come across and have contingencies in place for them and I am telling you that I don't care. MTG is just an analogy for the mentality, not a direct comparison. Can you truly not imagine someone having fun unless they win?
>>736548352Remember to press F2 and give feedback if you want to see it changed.
>>736548379My whole initial point was that it's more fun on its face to do well than it is to do badly. The actual interesting question that would follow that would be whether or not the juice is worth the squeeze in terms of what you need to do in order to do well in this game and how that would influence your individual fun in its own right.But you are pretending that you have exactly as much fun doing well as you when you do poorly(nobody believes this) so we cannot discuss the interesting question because you're a contrarian retard.
>>736547814>But he's a dishonest faggotAnon, you're chudding out. I think he genuinely just has fun playing jank combos instead of metagaming. Not everyone you misunderstand has to be a lying homosexual.
>>736548375*a way of preventing certain decks from steamrolling the game without getting challenged
>>736548352Your deck is looking a little thin anon
>>736548596I'm not suggesting he metagames. I'm suggesting that he would enjoy doing well more than he would enjoy eating shit. Whether doing well is worth metagaming hard for is a different question altogether but we can't get to that question.
>>736546026>at the start of your turn, show the top card of you draw pile, and choose whether or not you want to exhaust itironclad is now goodhire me megacrit
>>736548575Anon, I have like 150 hours in this game and am at A7. I have lost significantly more than I have won. But I am still having fun, even if I don't win. That's all there is to it. You don't need to believe it, but being unable to mentally comprehend this simple idea is truly baffling to me.Winning really isn't a factor. Doing well or not isn't a factor. It takes 5 seconds to get into a new run and be having fun again.
>>736548735It's boring card design that would never ever be a bad pick in any situation, but it's not like other character's don't have the equivalent in big bang or adrenaline so if they can have that then clad can have what you're suggesting.
>>736548602You painstakenly spend the entire game building this fucking cool deck you can use on the final boss. Final boss doesn't let you use it properly. If you enjoy that "challenge" you're just a faggot who enjoys being cucked. Fuck you.
>>736548803that can be the upgrade and the regular version can automatically exhaust the top card so the downside is the opportunity cost of picking the unupgraded card and having to upgrade it in order to be good
>>736548830*you spent the entire game building a deck that loses to one of the bosses due to lack of scaling
>>736548549Nah, it's much better to review bomb the game.
>>736548778Oh I comprehend just fine that you're saying that winning or doing well is no factor whatsoever to you. I just don't believe you. I'm not saying that you have to be a sweaty fucking metagamer where winrate is all that matters to you, but if you tell me that doing well means literally absolutely not a single thing to you at all in relation to your enjoyment of this game then you're almost certainly lying. If nothing else, there is enjoyment to be had in seeing your choice of strategy in this strategy game do well even if it does not translate to a win.
>>736548735He still needs to somehow survive act 1
Got my first A10 win today with Necro. Almost threw the whole thing because I forgot about the double boss.Honestly, I have no idea how I got that far with my deck anyway
Fuck my gay life man Ironclad feels so ass on high ascension any run you actually get hellraiser or any other card that defines your deck you don't get anything to synergize with it
>>736547712Because that winrate counts across all ascensionssts2.fun also gives bad data though because when I uploaded my runs, it also counted my custom runs in the win percentage. I used those to climb A5 necro and ironclad and A6 on everyone besides regent when it really shouldn't>but why did you do thatBecause A6 is pretty much the same as A5 on live branch and I beat A8 with regent on live legitmately. I don't want to get blown out by terrible RNG whrn the interesting ascensions is A7+ after A1 and A4.
>death march soul deck>dominate+ and break+ ironclad>a million powers because awakened doesnt exist anymore defectLoving how easy some it can be for a broken build to come online
>>736549162I don't see how hellraiser is supposed to be any good at all unless you have an incredibly high density of upgraded pommel strikes, because otherwise you're just playing the cards you'd draw for your hand anyway but doing it on random enemies.
>>736549078MVP of the entire runQueen was laughable with it.
>>736549035>there is enjoyment to be had in seeing your choice of strategy in this strategy game do wellYes. There's also enjoyment to be had in seeing it fail spectacularly. This is the part you don't get.
>>736549265Yeah upgraded pommel is the idea behind hellraiser pretty much, I don't run it often myself was just giving an example of my last run because that was the only option I even had and yet still I didn't get shit despite hitting up 2 shops
>>736549341Most of the time when you fail while forcing a build in this game it's not really in a spectacular or noteworthy way, though. That's the part you don't seem to get, or are pretending not to get probably. 90% of the time it's just getting the hallway fight that counters what you're forcing and getting chipped away for 10 turns. "My shiv build with nothing else got countered by hunter killer for the 50th time" yes very spectacular, I totally buy that that's as fun for you as your build going off and doing well.
watchhttps://youtu.be/tNL6J0nP-8U
>>736549763>long-ass rambling video from an autistic retard who can't communicate effectivelyNo.
>>736548886If you love that boss so much, then why don't you marry him you dirty bastard. I want to shiv the fucker and that's it. I don't want a 30 card deck full of shit. A 10 card deck full of shiv stuff, that's what's cool. Fuck off
>>736549612An example of a spectacular fail is getting to the test subject with earrings, Vakuu plays your whole deck, buffing the test subject up to one shot you.
>>736549898you can shiv him, i did so plenty of timesjust fill out the 12 card limit every turn
>>736549763>jobbersno, I don't think I will
>Mystic lighter>Sharp enchantment on Dagger sprayI've played for like 200 hours and never seen this relic before.
>>736547712Check his A10 winrate, fucking sub 20%
>>736550069I do that. I've beaten him like that a million times, but that's not the point here. The point was he's a shit and lame boss.
>>736550124It's a shop relic, so you're barely going to see it
>>736549967If you're forcing a build then for every one time that happens you're getting hard countered by hunter killer 50 times in act 2 and not even making it there. The thing about forced builds with no variety to the win condition is that there is typically no variety to the lose condition either. You just get lucky enough to get gifted rewards to make your forced build OP in whatever way or you lose, typically to the same 2 or 3 things in the same way every time because the same forced build has the same counters.
>>736550163*the point was to cry bitter tears
>>736549892>>736550080dont u wanna win?
>>736549898>experiment is just "remember this guy" the boss x3Bro when they finally finish fucking with doormaker he's 100% going to have a phase that will make you seethe for the same reason time eater did
>>736550410There are plenty of players as good as he is and the vast majority of people on this planet communicate in a clearer and more efficient manner than this autist. So if I want to win I'll find literally anyone else who is decent at the game and making a powerpoint about it because they will no doubt provide more value to me than this guy.I'm sure he appreciates your twitch sub though.
>>736550410I already win
i like fat decks
>>736550754Fat decks will be the #1 way of defeating The Architect
>Ironclad has to pay 2 energy to deal 8 damage and apply 2 vuln>Regent does 7 damage, 1 weaken, and 1 vuln but it's literally free because you start with 3 starsWhy do the devs hate ironclad so much
>>736547747that sounds awful. how are you supposed to play during any of those
>>736550410jorbs is not very good and his videos are impressively bad at conveying any sort of useful information
>Dont get any aoe first combats>Guaranteed elite path>Its phantasmalMan
>>736551631you have 1st turn when he does nothing(and you can't damage him or apply any statuses) for you to set up your powers. Then on first phase exhaust not important cards, survive second phase with what you drew and your powers, then I set up 0 cost infinites on 3rd phase and kill him
Any lobby?
>>736551631you don't, that's why this friday you'll enjoy his NEW NEW NEW (new) rework
>>736551941i thought the whole point was to make him counter infinites. but the only way to beat him is a 0 cost infinite?
>>736552071you can just deal a lot of damage too with Ashen strikes and other exhaust s
>>736552071they clearly don't know what the fuck they're doing with that boss and their overall stance on infinites, at the very least the phase 3 change (the energy turn) is getting rolled back while they figure out what they want to do, shit's awful right nowtheir reasoning was that the fight was reduced to surviving for two turns and then raping him, and after the change it's that exact thing except you rape him with 0 cost infinites that maybe takes two full cycles instead of one>for every card you play you lose one energy YOU'RE FINISHED NOW>anyway here's my juggle + flash of steel combo, gg
>>736551668he's good
>>736551631Getting good and learning the Mechanics you casual fake gamer
>>736543257Holy.
>>736552426only thing it accomplishes is forcing you to reset for clone every time now
>>736551976oh boy can't wait for him to have phase>every time you play a card shuffle curse into your deck(not status so Defect can't remove it with flak)
Hot takeWe should be able to stack enchantments
>>736550124Even better with Miniature Cannon and Akabeko.
>enchant particle wall with retain>get sealed throne>get echo axeI'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE
Now that enchantments get mentionedI wonder what's the winrate of>you landed on an event that enchants you a cardvs>the same run but you didn't land on an event that enchants you a cardand how game warping they are/how they change the outlook on encounter, enemy and boss designs overallAre you expected to have some enchanted cards? Would the game be better if you could have enchanted cards more often?Some stats I'd liket o see.
>>736553587>sealed throne You didn't beat the game
>>736553638the anti-exhaust event is brokenso is imbue All others are pretty minor all things considered
>>736553530I love miniature cannon so much, especially on ironclad.
>>736553780>get apparition >get event right after>on a small cycle deckSometimes the game just says "here is your free win"
If you enchant a Defend with something in act 1, does that lock you out of getting the Goopy relic from Pael in act 2?
>>736553827>*Upgraded Armaments has entered the chat*I love that little nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>736553902No but if you get the goopy defends that defend won't be enchanted. It's only worth enchanting a defend if you get the spiral event that gives it replay, that's a stupidly strong early game event.
>>736553937I'm more think about upgraded Boomerang Sword turning into a 1 energy 24 damage card.
>>736553902No, but it doesn't stack
>>736553435Is there even a truly broken stack of enchants anyway?
The donut block card should either cost 1, block for more or last longer
is this shit?
>>736554115Imagine momentum + sharp + enchanted lighter + miniature cannon on a multi hit skill.
>>736554115Clone is already more broken by itself than any stack
>>736554321
>>736554398Clone is broken for everyone else but me, who has never once gotten it in conjunction with something I want to clone.
>>736554490Same desu
host?
>Have 200 hours of playtime>A10 unlocked on all characters.>Pc restarts by itself in the middle of run.>My entire save file gets erased.What the fuck. Is there anything I can do?
>>736554715use unlock all on the console to get everything back, but your savefile is dead
beta or stable?
I just learned that Thrash damage consumption calculates in strength and akabeko. So if Thrash is first attack you play, you have +2 strength and akakabeko and it consumes strike, it will gain +16 damage
AAAHHHHi reached the last boss in A10 Ironclad with the weirdest rock throwing build but i got destroyed by the doormakerit's always him
>>736554715Cloud save is gone too?
Help i bought Bolas for a billion dollars and its garbage!!!
>>736554321No. It pays off to have at least one of his minion cards so you can exhaust things in your deck and that one's the safest to play since it turns cards into block.
>>736555118Rock throwing actually always manages to make the shittiest deck barely playable somehow and I am always so thankful for it
>>736555298Should've bought Push Dagger too scrub.
>>736554798Definitely beta if you want to play Regent. Everyone else, your choice. I'm on beta since I've already played stable enough and want all the changes to spice things up.
I'm on A9 with Ironclad A10 soon brothers I'm riding the high
>could do A15 in StS1 decently >in StS2 I'm jobbing at ~A5What the fuck am I doing wrong bros
>>736555724Still mad they removed heavy blade so I can't be Guts Berserk
>>736556069Darv says that he has Clad's sword and need someone to reforge it. Heavy Blade will be back with vengeance
A1 beta :)steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241200568039/76561198023185157
>>736555892elites are absolute fucking bait in act 1.
>turn based combat>shitty art styleyeah it's a pass for me
Fucking hell man, A10 with Ironclad is impossible
>try to host and join>says Test Host and not my steam profile nameAgain?!
>>7365562583/4
>>736555892Deck building decisions are way different from the first slay the spire in my opinion, early game survivability is a delicate balancing act of taking just enough shitty cards to get you through the early game while not thickening your deck too much with trash that will brick you in the late game. It also depends on who you're playing, it seems the general consensus is that Ironclad is the weakest of the current cast.
>>736555892post a run with a path
>>736556521I UNINSTALLED AND REINSTALLED AND IT'S STILL LOCKED ME AT "TEST HOST"
>>736555892Just ignore Elites.
>>736556456Just play the old patch, allow yourself some fun.
>>736556906Oh I needed to restart Steam>>736556258>You cannot join this game as it has already startedHaha...
>>736556328Wait seriously? I've been trying to get at least 2 in act one all this time
Which way, Iron man
>>736556456it's not. the main thing is finding some defense or way to kill very fast for act 2 since shit starts hitting very hard
>>736557176One-Two Punch for double Grapple
tfw I would rather fight an elite in Act 2 than hit a ? node cause of HUNTER KILLER who is totally not an elite btw teeheeat least I can gear up to fight an elite and there's usually a campfire afterward, Hunter Nigger can gank you anywhere, any time
>>736557071act 1 is just basically building your deck. at act 2 you already got the rare and special relic from the start so the game is basically done after that
>>736557176skip
>>736546026Get like 1-2 feel no pains, maybe a crimson mantle, generate a shitload of block every turn. Then you're free to spam attacks, energy drain, and your actual draw cards.But yeah not only needs headbutt but also anger or some kind of status generator to fill your deck with chaff.
>>736557176>hellraiserUseless without at least 2 pommel strike+ OR 3+ non upgraded pommel strikes>conflagration You have zero exhaust but that's easy enough to build and get good return on>one two punch Works great with catastrophe and not much else that you have.
>>736557374>or some kind of status generator to fill your deck with chaff.All off-loaded onto Defect and Regent, you get NOTHING. Also auto exhaust turns evil eye into extremely efficient block.
>>736556328Not necessarily.I got perfected strike, strike dummy and couple more strike cards and some bloodletting super early in A1, I managed to annihilate like 5 elites before the boss.
>>736557176Hellraiser with no strikes? Pass. You only have 1 exhaust card, so pass on Pact's End. One Two Punch isn't great either, since you don't have any really strong attacks to play with it. At best it just lets you do more cheesy stuff with headbutt + shrug it off
>>736546026>>736546140>>736546168>>736546212>>736546343>>736546965>>736547263>>736548735F2 and post it to MegaCrit
>>736557635already did.
I don't understand how to make these excessive exhausts work on ironcladWon't you just run out of cards eventually? The class has so many cards that "exhaust a card randomly" "exhaust first drawn card" "exhaust entire hand", how the fuck don't you just completely cripple your combats?
>>736557635I've f2'd at least 20 times
>>736557071This made sense in STS1 since a) Relics could be really strong and so it was usually worth rolling the dice for oneb) Elites might deal like 18-25 damage with a standard deck, which is manageablec) Many bosses could be beaten reliably at like 15-25 HP so you were encouraged to exchange health for the rewards of an Elite. You could risk dying at a boss in exchange for having earlier strength that would stand you in good stead for Act 2.In STS2a) Streamers like jorbs want STS2 to be a super elite hard difficult game with no highroll fun options, so almost no strong relics exist any more. It doesn't matter whether Relics are Common or Rare they all provide mostly minimal benefits, besides some very few exceptions like Tent or Ice Cream.b) The game needs to be hard and not fun (very important), so this just means having Elites hit you very hard every turn or making them nigh invincible so they're just deck checks instead of having any actual mechanics you can play around with limited options.c) There are now bosses that are literally invincible or demand you take like 30 damage just by existing. No real way to play around them except - yep, you guessed it, just have a generically strong deck that would win any boss.Meanwhile, Events are like way better since they give you free removes, upgrades, gold etc. so just pick those and avoid elites lmao.No memorable Dead Branch run, no strategic picks, just RNG roll the best cards early then reset if you don't. That's high asc gameplay.
>>736557635I pir8d
>>736557943but if you don't buy the game, you cannot multiplayer
>>736557840they fucked up the exhaust build, it's just a support mechanic to combo betterthat card works well if you just wanna go infinite with hellraiser and pommel strikes, for example
>>736546026i'd only pick this is if i had howl and a headbutt or two along with enough draw to keep howl on top of deck every turn so basically never
how the fuck do you deal with this shit?
>>736558071never understood the deal with this until I got to A9, what a nigger boss
>>736558071potion, kill fast so it doesn't get that high, block enough during fight so you have that much hp, or get lucky on block draw
>>736558071neutralize
>>736543257>I WILL NOW BUY YOUR GAME
>>736558046Oh shit, never thought of it like that. I thought unceasing top was the best you could do to get near something resembling an "infinite"
>>736558071It's not like the boss isn't a gigantic fucking cocksucker turbo faggot, but here are some things I'd recommend you keep in mind when you play your act 1>buy/keep a block potion>buy/keep a weak potion>check your draw pile before dealing the last hit and see if there's any chance you get a few blocks/weak sources on the last turn>(mandatory keep a buffer/fairy in a bottle if you have them)>pick at least one or two big block cards>if everything else fails, take a safe path, rest before the boss, and just hit it as hard as possible
>>736558071Once it becomes the red bomb icon on top of the boss, you can reduce the damage with weak or the 30% damage reduction potion
No idea how I managed to pull this off
>>736558546by all accounts, it doesn't make sense
>>736558546you didn't get the doormaker so you wonhope you enjoyed my analsysis
>>736558664when are they deleting that stupid boss for real
do the bootleg relics??? actually do what they say or is there a hidden effect?
Host before Trump nukes Iran
>>736547371So when's the last time you've actually seen a vagina irl and had sex, Mr Chad le High Testosterone man? Huh? When was it? Surely you have recently, and have had intercourse a lot since you're such a normal, virile male.
>>736557472>perfect storm of synergy>on a1Anon you have to realize how anomalous that set of conditions is. On a10 with your average card rewards you'll generally path into, at most, 1 late elite.
Decided to give this boss relic a try during an A10 clad run. Reduced the risk by getting multiple avenues of victory and even took the double my entire deck event. But literally at the last moment it deleted the card that would've won the run and killed the run instead. 0/10 don't ever take.
>>736559245i only used it once and won. It was honestly good pretty much gave my silent dogshit spam scaling i desperately needed
>>736559245I managed to make it work because I took 2 copies of Glam Boomerang Sword in act 3
>>736545320>low tsubhuman projection
>>736543326>coomshitthat's not it, kill yourself faggot
>>736559245Just restart a fight, ez
Time to ruin my day
>>736559706Please pick Regent
>>736559878YeI've been thinking about my path for a few minutes
>>736559931Scissors a Strike or Oyster. Poultice if you really want to be spicy and figure out what the run is going to be from the get-go
gg
>>736559973Holy poultice pull
>>736559091blumpf cannot be allowed to have the nuclear codes!
>>736543326don't click the thread if you don't like it
>>736559996>Black HoleEither go for Sealed Throne or>THE SMITHFuck Black Hole, go FORGE FORGE FORGE
bruh
>>736560095Anon, your AOE?
>>736560275>33 aoeshow me the cards that can do that
>>736560314bro, your 36 doom on all enemies?bro, your 7 damage on all enemies 7 times?
>>736560275I hate drafting AoE cards. They are so fucking garbage on 1 enemy fights they might as well be a curse
>>736560314Pact's End
>>736560505>>736560314then pay up with health chuddies
Just had a silent run where I got feral from colorful philosopher event. It lets you play a shiv twice. It overrides the exhaust. Weird interaction I didn't expect. I was just using it to spam neutralize. I'm guessing it will stop other 0 cost attacks from exhausting the first time too.
>>736560314banshee's cry
Hostinsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241207858349/76561198029311169
>>736560640>6 costok but what about non-meme cards you can actually use
>>736560072I got shafted beyond belief.
>>736560845if you read that it is actually free after your first turn, if not during your first turn.In that battle where you are already on turn 2, you would easily be able to use it.
>>736560095This shit is so much worse than the little exploding shapes from 1
>>736560640kek actually the exact 33 damage
>>736548803maybe you choose to either exhaust it or lose HP so it works with ironclads HP loss stuff
>>736560845>these are the people giving their opinion on anything
>>736546194apparitions aren't bad at least
>>736560585Yeah in this game for some reason there's a strong version of "pull back to hand" that reaches into the exhaust pileWorks that way for regents sword pull too, might work for make it so as well, I've never tried it
>>736547263that's already a card is the problem
>>736546194Vakuu is genuinely goodLord's Parasol has become even better because it's insurance that you wont run out of cards against doorniggerApparitions are strongPreserved fog is goodI will admit that the wish/curse thing has become worse because the price of removal has gone up too much
>>736554715I think there's offline backup somewhere in appdata
>>736561230regent's sword is even stronger since it creates the card. You can transform the sword in your draw pile and when you forge it'll still be added to your hand.
>>736561206>>736561430I'll admit he has some potentially good options, but he's the only ancient that can give me 3 run brickers and force me to take 1. Lords Parasol has bricked my run 3/3 times I've taken it all because of block dilution, earrings are a scam because by the time the autoplay downside doesn't matter, your deck is so robust you'd win without their boon. Wish/Curse is ass, fiddle is extremely context sensitive and generally counterintuitive if you've been building your deck correctly for how late it comes. Fog needs good turn 1 card draw because the innate curse is actually a pain in the ass, and the music box is at least decent because it doesnt impose any downside but also needs specific context like Necrobinder or Claw Defect to actually benefit you. Apparitions and Blood Soaked rose are the only two I consider to be unquestionable upgrades to your character regardless of context, which I think is worse than the number of unquestionable upgrades you get from other ancients.
I'VE LITERALLY HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OTHER BOSS BESIDES DOORFAGGOT SINCE SWITCHING TO BETA BRANCH. beat him with hellraiser get though, juggling MVP
>Asc 10>Don't get good cards in the first 3 floors>loseI'm starting to remember why I eventually stopped playing the first game
rip lmao. I guess stag scales like a motherfucker in Multiplayer and it literally never stops attacking.
anybody hosting?
>>736562370id join at least but my internets too bad for hosting
Cant host from EU Usbros are gonna suffer
>>736562521I'm from EU. lets go
>>736562521well we would be 2 from eu already
>>736562627maybe you wanna host then?
anybody has the how to host online coop pic thats been circling around the general?
[Grapple] Silent[Dominate] Silent[Stomp] Silent[Feed] Silent [Byrdonis Egg][Squeeze] Silent
Oh holy shit, HE is hereWhat do, bros? I'm going for Vulnerable + Strength
>>736563123pyramid? You can get retain on Dominates to wait for big vuln
>>736563123Black star if you feel you deck can handle elites easily Corruption is no good because you exile your vulnerable buildups and payoffsPyramid is always good
>>736563123it's always pyramid
>>736563123Pyramid
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241212185412/76561198230044444connection might be a bit wonky at times
>>736563123Corruption without snecko or dead branch is a sad mockery. Also they removed like half of his good skills.
I just learned that Bombardment does not go around the ringing debuff. At least I survived.
>>736563407Black screen'd
so how do you actually host lobbies without friends. i tried lookin it up but cant find shit. I know it has to be through steam but how
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241212766431/76561198230044444new try
WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?
>>736563632go to your steam profile and right click the green join game button, copy link from there
YES DUDE
Alright lets try hostin from EUsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241213052609/76561198047008744
>>736563727I came
bro thinks intangible is gonna save him
>>7365638032/4 . First time hosting hopefully connection is good
>got to a10>silent is my only positive winrate character I'm starting to believe the accusations
I can't believe fucking PARRY, of all cards, saved this fight.Saw the bread at the shop and thought "what if my only way out of this shithole is using bulwark + sword to parry for 28".And this run began with a transform strike into parry.
>>736564009>go to a10>negative wr on all charactersi... am a fraud...
>>736563803come on you goobers join up still 2/4
>>736564009>caring about winrateI abort more runs than a black mother does children. If Neow transforms my strikes into 3 cost scaling bricks I snap my character's neck before the whooshing sound even finishes playing.
>>736564009>Losing more games than you've even played.Damn bro, that's kinda impressive.
i just had the most orgasmic ic run
>>736564308Gee, Ironclad why does the Spire let you have two revive items
>>736564009>45% winrate with ironclad>50% winrate with regent and necrobinder>35% with defect>80% with silentvery balanced character
>>736563350>>736563359>>736563380>>736563528>0 attacks that are 0 cost>take 70% of HP before doing the setup to attack>use both pots>there is another fight after himCurrent Doormaker is absolute cancer.
>>736564068And that's a wrap.>Bird + Parry + Smith buildFuck, I may be a believer now. Maybe parry isn't that bad.
>>736564359"Because bash fucking sucks" -John Spire Ironclad
>>736564379Ironclad has a hard time with new doormaker because he relies on card draw a lot and has energy issueshe also likes small decksI had to change my playstyle a lot to improve against him
I have asc 10 on all characters but Ironclad and Necrobinder, which I'm both stuck on at asc 9. These two characters are so fucking weak.
>>736564534The 4 cards remaining on the drawpile were 2 Bloodlettings, a Pommel and Evil EyeSkill issue, I guess.
>>736564582necro has ways to play act 1 to still win on asc 9 and 10. There's no way for Clad to survive that shit
>>736564582>playing necrobinder>docks>this guy slaps your osty's asswhat do you do?
>Jorbs keeps shitting out PowerPoint videos>1 hour of rambling>doesnt actually answers any questions proposed at video startFucking hate this nigger. He is one of the best fucking players and all he can say is "lmao just win bro"
>>736564876idk I forget what he does?
>>736564876This guy dies too fast to be a problem except occasionally he gets some big strength in multiplayer
>>736554715Check the save folder.
>>736565081Why do you need a grifter to tell you how to play the game? Just be yourself and have fun,
>>736565101Always attacksWhenever you take unblocked damage he gains strength
>>736565101Gain strength on doing hp damage to you
>>736565081>video title: "how hard is slay the spire?">content of the video: 30 minutes of saying "well i guess it depends what you mean by hard and it depends what you mean by "slay the spire""He would give jordan peterson a run for his money
Saaaaar please host saaaaar. Please let me redeem the multiplayer.
>>736563839>>736563727lost the run in Act2 BossGrand Finale wasn't played again
>>736543326get your T levels checked
>>736565201>>736565212How do you take hp damage as necrobinder?
>Tank is an Ironclad card>Ironclad has shit all for block generationWhat did MegaCrit mean by this
>>736565081Why would you ever watch Jorbs if you want to learn the game? Actually why would you ever want to watch that faggot at all. There are way better StS players that can teach you more and are more entertaining at the same time.
>>736565298Such is the fate of the grand finale.
>>736565335Name 3
>>736565312It's an early fight and he insists on himself
>>736565312it gains strength when it hits osty, too
>>736565329???Bro your Impervious? Your Flame Barrier? Your Second Wind? Your Colossus? Your Blood Wall? Your Evil Eye?
>>736559181not that anon but i'll speak for him, last friday, the wife and i usually do it once a week unless it's a period week or it's a baby not sleeping night
>>736565329I had this combo on my latest clad run
>>736565473>unless it's a period weekpleb
>>736565329bro your double mantle for free 20 block every turn
>>736565081sorry lil pup he's not even top 5 all time
>>736565369Cephalopocalypse is good without being the best in the world, he's not talking to a chat so there's no insufferable hugbox, he's very in-depth and you can see him learning from his mistakes (going from thinking Claw is a joke deck to trying it out and gladly admitting he was mistaken after comments advised him to give it a chance). All you need.
>>736565369Lifecoach
give every Clad card(besides offering) that exhausts on play "Exhaust Sly"here, fixed
Necro has no business being this fun to play man what the hell.Also the grimoire is super broken.
No idea how I could beat the door with this deck. Lacked scaling for sure. Lacked energy. Defense was good because of diadem+fasten, but damage wasn't there.Btw the knight trio seems tougher for Regent than other character I tried cause he can't afford to lose the star generators.
I was playing too fast and moved on from shop after buying the membership card without realizing I still had two foul potions in my inventory
GGs corvin. That bad luck and the bridge really fucked me up this run. But we made it
>>736566828Yea, I made pretty bad experiences with taking the duplicate.I only ever take it if I have ways to transform/exhaust the Bad Luck or eventually you will always draw it.
what the heck is this...
Who up bitin they snakes
>>736567380when will /v/ros learn
>>736565081>He is one of the best fucking playershe peaked when he was leeching off beagle
>>736567112obv it's voidform loligent with the nipple clampsare you blind?
>>736543257Would mating press
gg!
ggnow that was an exciting last fight
>>736567713I love the loli regent
>>736567713>collar neck, hair and ears make a starNice
rework her
>>736545513Just play Mewgenics then
>>736545513Hunter Killer is a nigger because you can't plan around him. He's a random encounter. You know what the boss is and how to plan for it when you start the act. You can live in fear of Hunter Killer and prepare for him, and he never shows, then your deck is saddled with useless insurance.
>>736567852Literally just get rid of rushdown
>>736567380>>736567584Here's the deck, I unironically love SnakebiteGoop + Pyramid obviously carried
>>736566654Get fucked
>>736567983>>736566654Did you have replay on No Escape or something?
a whole civilization will diesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241220155402/76561198174500842
you think with the hundreds of millions of dollars they made, they would have better and unique animations for every rare card at least. why is there only 5 characters? and 2 of them are the old ones. why is there only 3 acts? why is there only like 6 bosses? why is there so little story/world building? why is there so little unique events? what were they doing for ten years? like hollow knight to silksong should have been the bare minimum
Does anyone even take that one event where it upgrades all your cards and leaves you at 1/1 HP and win with it
>>736568245its impossible on a10 unless idk you get ludicrously lucky and find a lot of max hp right after
>>736568029I wish. It was just an extremely efficient and thin deck with a lot of recursion.
>>736567112don't like this one, her glowing blue cunny is completely exposed in pretty much every pic where she isn't sitting in the chair
>>73656810857 48 4F 20 49 53 20 54 48 49 53 20 46 52 55 49 54 59 20 4F 52 41 4E 47 45 20 46 55 43 4B 20 3F
>>736568245No fucking wayAnd I'm pretty sure that event can only show up early so you rarely have that many cards worth upgrading to go all the way on it
I have almost 100 hours and I have not felt like I've been fucked over by shitty card reward options more than this run. Snakebite was the only thing doing damage, so every fight as slow as fuck.
>>736568513Lmao get vored nerd.
>>736568513>neutralise not upgradedwuhuhu
>>736568245>1/1>Crimson Mantle>Tungsten RodYeah, it's gaming time.
>>736568601I like to think he prioritised Snakebite for the memes.
>>736567982surprised you don't go for burst with bite it seems very nice to hold onto bite until you have a burst to get 20 poison for 3.still think i'd rather have flask for 9(12) poison though. much better for activating outbreak.
>>736543257need paizuri
>Take rare reward from Neow>Fuck it, Hyperbeam>First reward fuck it we're Claw>Next room shop to remove the curse>Can just afford to remove the curve and the Claw on saleI swear this shit is rigged.
>>736568127In better world>Crimson MantleClad gets a Crimson Mantle>Expect a fightgets bandages on hands until debuff is removed>Dark Embracepurple hands appear holding Clad
I have played this a few times on my phone, there is some android port that works well, yeah its better than the first game, but i cant phantom how people can play this game a lot I already got tired of it.Its same feel as Darkest Dungeon 2 for me its fun a few times but then you get tired, because how repetitive the game feels.Still a very good phone game, cant deny that, but wont even bother with it on PC.Best run was with poison witch that draws extra cards, i complete it with her.
kill
>>736568908sexo cant wait for the mods
>>736568408RegentGOD carry btw
>>736543257fixed
>>736567112No thanks, I'm waiting for her
>man this game is so easy haha you guys suck>0.99every time
>>736565081>>736565335>>736567693do you know what is his beef with Celerity and why the latter says jorbs learned everyhing by watching him?
>>736567852Delete stance dancingMake Scry her main gimmick
>>736569785new patch is easier though
>>736569763Kissable forehead.
>>736569785thanks for beta testing. glad i don't have to deal with dumb changes.
ntntturns out gang up is not that reliant
Bulk Up Claw wasn't enough, sorry team
>>736569859
>>736569903at least you died a buff robot
rip, got greedy upgrading defrag instead of restinggot given echo by white noise but died turn 1
>>736569859Sir, I’m afraid I'll have to show you to the door
>>736569886>>736569903RIPFelt like I had way too many bad turn 1s where I drew zero block cards and ate shit. Should've focused more on removing Strikes, I guessAt least I got a couple good Flak Cannons off
>>736569859>mostly nerfs and enemy buffs>easier
>>736569903I'm never queuing with you again bro i wasnt in your lobby
>>736569681whoa, hubba bubba
>>736569980id be down for one more try
>>736570007a whole civilization will livesteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241222816943/76561198174500842
>>736568695Well, I was never offered a Burst, so that's why
>>736569629ty
>>736569852That'll just turn into silent 2 when they start giving her cards that play when discarded via scry
regent at a9/10 is so fucking inconsistent. is it his kit or am i having skill issue?
>>736570320regent sucks, simple as
>>736570320He is, he has too many different gimmicks built into his card pool and not only most of them are complete shit, they also don't work together.
>>736570320He has a really weak Act 1.
>>736570320he requires setup. kinda like defect but lame and gay
someone make a lobby
How do you rank characters in multiplayer? who is the worst/best character
>>736570426i tried
>>736570493I think it's Silent>Ironclad>Regen=Necro>Defect
>>736570320Convergence is his best card, take it more
>>736570320Skill issue, once you understand how to built him he's smooth sailing.
I like doing A0 runs for shits and giggles. This deck was amazing until the FUCKING Doorkeeper. Also Music Box is completely nuts in Claw decks. All those extra copies of Claw? All for One ;)
>>736570493Necro(Debilitate)>>>>Silent=Defect>Regent>>>>>Ironclad
>>736570426steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241223973761/76561198029311169
>>736570751>ironclad below anyoneevery fucking lobby you ironclad faggots keep going infinite or do 10000000 dmg per turn. so busted that it makes playing sts multiplayer unfun.
>>736570493Necro>Regent>Silent=Defect>Iron
>>736570657Teach me. I just made got to A10 and I'm struggling in A2.
anyone placing D*fect above any other character in multiplayer is retarded and can be dismissed
>>736557840Exhaust was good in StS1 because Clad had all the status generation Defect has in 2, and corruption was a powerspike that allowed you to go bonkers and finish the fight quickly.In 2 corruption is garbage because you have no exhaust targets, and because you have to pick it over two other boons.
>lobby fullhas everybody been fiending to play lately? gat damn
>>736570965Energy Surge
>>736570978>In 2 corruption is garbage because you have no exhaust targetsAHEM ;)
>>736571054Yeah bro let me brick my deck with a 3 codt attack and MAYBE hope I draw it along with an upgraded true grit.I like this card's mechanic but it's really awkward to use.
>>736571054It should function like regent's. It's already the same cost for a lower damage number and doesn't exhaust itself, but it's also uncommon instead of rare. Fisticuffs is better iron wave, why can't clad get a version of this that's good?
>>736557840>>736570978lmao get fucked losers, all you need is ashen strike, fiend fire, and mittens
>>736571183>0 energy>Draw a card, exhaust a card from handHow about now?
I breezed through the first couple of ascensions on all the other characters but I can't fucking beat Silent A0 which is supposedly the most broken. I keep falling short on damage on the act 3 boss every time I'm going insane.
>>736571291>63 cardsthat's one way to get around the risks. Did you ever accidentally exhaust an ashen strike and seethe?
>nuDoormaker>Play Claw 5 times on turn one>"Sweet, when I draw All for One he's fucking toast">Draw it on the exhaust phaseFUCKWHY
>>736571291>yeah bro just get the duplicate event deck then it's good
>>736571402Yes. Happened like 3 times. But I get to hit 9 exhausted cards by turn 3 and that means 50 dmg on 1 mana.Also crossbow/metamortphosis gave me enough fodder to not care at that point.Act 1 was molten ifist + ashen strike to burst down mobs and conserve potions for elitesAct 2 was mittens and panicking that knowledge demon was tanky enough to almost deck me out, but str scaling gave me enough to finishAct 3 is act 3. Last event was double deck and was a meme at that point
>>736571047Silent, Necrobinder and Ironclad can delete enemy strength so none has to blockSilent poison and Necro doom stacking with each other.And lets not even talk about unholy abomination that is several Ironclads with one silent, with silent job of exposing, weakening and flanking while Ironclads multiple vuln into hundreds of str gain from Domination.How Defect synergizes with antone?
the beesTHE BEES
>>736570387Nigger.
>>736570901For starters, don't pick star stuff highly unless you already have good generation, exceptions are Particle Wall, Reflect and Dying Star which are good enough and low star cost enough to warrant an early pickup.If you get Particle Wall you can always look out for easy infinites, Duplicator with Throne or Touch of Insanity give you infinite Walls, then you just need Black Hole, Monologue or any way to convert the infinite casts into damage.Alternatively you can go huge sword build, parry is actually good now and Conqueror combined with vulnerable will deal massive damage.Colorless/generation built isn't as bad as you might expect either, yes sometimes you get unplayable trash from it, but more often than not colorless cards are actually good, especially with Arsenal.If you get good vigor/energy generation cards you can also look to go for a Drill/Stardust/Radiate combo built, you try to get a ton of vigor/strength and then hit em for as many instances of dmg as you can.Big Bang, Voidform, Tyranny and Orbit (and in most runs Bombardment) are generically good cards you can always take in any built.
>>736571438>He doesn't know luck is a skill>He can't manifest luck to get the exact events he wantsNGMI
fight act 3 elites? mmmmmmmmm nyo
>>736543326>He doesnt want paizuri with fellatio from the big tiddy slug girlWhat are you, gay?
>get poison card from first fight>hmmmm i will make a poison deck!>don’t get anymore poisons cards>die
>>736570320See>>736563709
>>736572727>still falling for the build meme
Debilitate is so stupidly broken in MP, ggI enjoyed playing Snakebite and Fumes
Hosting a room with the Watcher mod since they added multiplayer cardsYou need those 2 in your mod folderhttps://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/103https://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/46steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241226733169/76561199498658249
ggswho needs upgrades?
>>736572727>get one x card>"i will make x deck!"
>>736572951I swear it mattered
>Try Sly/Shiv build>Cant get past first act 3 boss.>Try again same build.>Got Girya in act 1.>No issues.Some strength really makes all the diference.
>>736573198>Dexterity>Sly cardsWho wants to tell him that Shivs aren't why he won? Lil nigga doesn't even have Accuracy lmaoooo
>>736572876>>736572903>>736572951>debilitate>weaken>double diddling touch & wailthey never stood a chance
>>736573198>Scroll BoxesTruly had to be desperate to pick that, good jobI can't stand losing gold on newest patch, I need to save everything for strike removes
>>736573278retard
>>736573278accuracy is a meme card
>>736573417I've built Shivs precisely once and walked through the game with two Accuracy+.
>>736544956Two many enemies flood your deck with trash now, you need a big deck to offset all their "unplayable, take 5 damage at end of turn" bullshit.
>>736573278sorry, could you please say that again?
>>736573417It literally doubles your shiv damage and only costs 1 energy. If you have shivs as part of you damage you are stupid not to take it.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241228381895/76561198006368528beta branchtaking a shit too
>>736573198>Some strength really makes all the diference.Str help but dex helps even more. The biggest knowledge pill in both this game and 1 for me was learning that it's worth spending the money to buy smoothstone early if you see it at the shop. The amount of HP you're going to save through the run is ludicrous
I think I'm gonna stop picking random in multiplayer, because I hate playing Ironclad.
GG, had a fun deck although I was sorely missing a Compact or Flak Cannon.
Reminder that Girya is actually pretty bad because key upgrades are generally more important. I mostly play Defect and can't see a world where I'd want it maxed over 3 upgrades.>StatusDamage comes from Smokestack and orb churning. Flak Cannon is okay I guess but already deals plenty of damage. I'd rather just upgrade Flak Cannon itself over a Girya stack.>ClawA Girya stack is just +1 to all Claws. That's worse than playing a Claw lmao.>FocusWho needs strength at all for this?Lifting isn't free, it costs opportunity cost that could've upgraded something good. I've found Girya in multiple runs and am yet to use it.
>>736573640pinch it off bro
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>>736573836Girya is good on Silent if you get it early, you can usually afford to get a few key upgrades and then lift
Dirge exhausts on beta right? I just had a game with chem X and Dirge on live patch and it was ridiculous. 0 cost +2 souls and summon 8.
>>736573836Girya is absolutely terrible in this game because upgrades are so much more valuable than in sts 1An upgrade on a key card can be the difference between taking 20hp damage or taking 0
>>736573919Yes. However borrowed time now gives +6 energy for 1 so you can make some absolutely outrageous uses of Dirge even if it exhausts.
>>736573836defect is both uber upgrade-centric and doesn't fully benefit from strengthnon-posion silent and regent's (admittedly gimmicky) multi-hit archetype can really love +3 unconditional strength
>>736573919Yea, the pretty much killed all the easy infinites on Necro.
>>736573982I'd probably lift a lot on Regent purely because his upgrades are so fucking bad. The two new characters are both bad for upgrades but Regent is definitely the worse of the two.
They should make an orb that draws you a card per turn and two when evoked. Slap it on a rare or something.
>>736573640DC? rehosting:steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241229503605/76561198006368528
Where do I get enough damage to kill this retard demon? I'm playing free Sly cards constantly and it's still too slow. I was only offered Snakebite at the beginning, but I opted for Escape Plan. Is that where I threw the run?
Do you keep your unlocks 'n shit when you move to the beta branch? Genuine ask, I've been tempted to give it a shot just to play with (You).
>>736574234How about an orb that gives 1 str/dex and 2 for that turn when evoked.
>>736574128regent has pretty good upgrades outside of forge, though most of them are fairly boring "cost less energy" or "get more stars" (make other cards cost less)
>>736574292>Orbs that do something in attack buildsGet this man an apron and a spatula because holy shit he's cooking.
>>736567852Calm giving energy when you exit it is now capped at happening once per turn
>>736574365>Orbs that do something in attack buildsit's called frost, nigga
>>736567852Aside from removing infinites, I'd do nothing. Enemies attack so much in this game that angery stance is a much bigger risk.>Carapace bugs in act 2>WHY CAN'T I KILL THEM WITH MY 50 DAMAGE ATTACK AAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
>>736574281You keep everything
>>736574434Sweet, thanks.
>>736574416Sadly my last attack-based run involved a Hyperbeam+ enchanted to deal +50% damage because I don't "make love", I "FUCK HARD".
>>736567852make rushdown rareeruption no longer upgrades to 1 costremove mental fortress (or juice it by 2-3 block and give it to Darv)
>>736574275Actually yes. You have no scaling damage or big numbers with shivs.
>>736574426oh noanyway
>>736556695really. I feel like Regent is the weakest by far - not because of his cards but because there's so much bullshit in his pool
>>736574643>not because of his cards but because of his cards
>>736556695>early game survivability is a delicate balancing act of taking just enough shitty cards to get you through the early game while not thickening your deck too much with trash that will brick you in the late game.You do the same in the first game
>>736574275you desperately needed acro/prepared for cycling. You're also adding multiple copies of stuff that bloats your deck. 3 ricochet is fine once you have draw but without sufficient draw you are just making untouchable, afterimage, footwork, adrenaline, etc that much harder to dig for.I would have only taken 1 flick-flack, 1 ricochet, removed strikes over defends. I would have skipped speedster since you didn't have enough draw yet.Leaning into poison or something was likely the right call when you just weren't seeing the draw/discard power.
The Insatiable is the best boss and I really don't care what you think. They should make him an act 3 boss that can only be fought if you faced him in act 2.>I'M STILL HUNGRY, BITCH
>defect>upgraded holograms>brightest flame>a ton of clawsIt seems like the game has decided I win this seed
>>736575357Next Vakuu will give you the music box.
>>736575298looks like a big blown out asshole. i can see why its your favorite
>>736575376Got the club that draws cards for each 4 cards you play from the lion.I won.
>>736575519Tanx is my favorite ancient. Every single option he has is great and often run winning. I don't understand the reasoning behind making some of the ancients so shit and some so good.
>>736574426Here you go anon
>>736575662>AnchorYou didn't beat the game.
>4 goatse in a row since updated to beta>only beat 1xFuck the anon that told me to update.
