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Boys like giant paddle swords.
Gentlemen enjoy the grace and elegance of the estoc.
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>>736546193
*beats you with an oar*
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>>736546193
thrusting swords are for faggots
curved swords are for brown people
katanas and its ilk are for discord moderators

real men use longswords
>b-b-but that's the default
for good reason, it's the best
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>>736546317
Real macho men use hammers
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>>736546317
i could beat you in a duel using literally any of those, it's too bad there's no online vr gladiator game I could prove this in
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>>736546317
*blocks your path*
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>>736546317
Games need more broadswords and backswords.
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>>736546317
>longswordz
a broadsword is better anyway
sabers are superior to everything else anyway
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>>736546795
Like the mortuary sword.
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>>736546317
>t. got raped by a rapier and never lived it down
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>>736546317
Longswords are thrusting swords lmfao
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I just don't like S shaped guards and the slashing R2 always feel weird when it comes to thrusting swords.
I want something like Rogier's Rapier that doesn't look like a fucking Pretty Cure weapon, those R2s are superb but the weapon itself looks so faggy I can't bring myself to ever use it, it also sucks that the Frozen Rapier is so garbage.
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>>736546193
for me, its the club.
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>>736547507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA
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flanged mace master race
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>>736546780
That's a knife
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Daggers and knives.
That is all.
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>>736546193
based
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For me, it's the poleaxe
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Why do they call it a bastard sword?
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>>736549752
Because a bastard is a half-son, and these swords are also called half-and-a-hand swords, meaning that you can use either or
It's meant to literally say that this kind of sword did not belong cleanly to the broader family of sword designs in 15th or 16th century
I don't remember clearly when exactly
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>>736546193
shield and mace
most optimal combo
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>>736550313
>half-and-a-hand
hand-and-a-half
Typo, but I think I like it better this way
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nice armor bro
get your head bashed
concussion, blind, helmet dented
i win
no armor = one hit = broken bones, disabled, i win
mace is supreme
you just need to be strong enough
estoc is good for weaker people who want to poke weak spots
good enemies will lack weak spots, will land attacks against you, and will destroy you
you must be strong
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>>736547507
this
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>>736546780
Based af
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>>736546317
based
i beat the whole games with these bad boys
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>>736546271
make way for the superior naval implement
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>>736546317
I agree with everything except that I give katanas a pass.
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For me it's the humble flail.
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So what does liking the Flamberge make me?
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>>736551408
A flaming fag but also based
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>>736546948
That and the 1788 heavy cavalry sword have probably the best basket hilt designs.
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>>736546780
gross and messy
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Real dark and edgy niggas use these.
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>>736546317
Bastard swords*
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>>736550508
Maces have pretty niche uses outside of armored combat, however. They're unwieldy and have poor reach compared to a sword, there's a reason they fell out of common use after the mid-17th century while swords stuck around until the late 19th century.
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>>736547507
Good ol' nailbat
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>>736546795
I want a basket hilt broadsword but they're surprisingly difficult to find, good ones anyway.
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>>736550978
>whackus bonkus
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>>736547507
>>736553930
If you're going to peasant out with a cudgel at least have some taste
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>>736554103
This doesn't look particularly effective at bashing in fookin' heads...
If I wanted to skewer, I'd grab me fork.
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>>736553968
They were pretty niche by the time swords entered mass production and they were never cheap to make before then. You might be able to get one of the 19th century regulation highland broadswords though.
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when it comes to ashes, for me it's flaming strike and sword dance
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>>736551332
arscheschlaggen > sackeklopfen
Hans Talhoffer's 3rd precept
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>>736554473
Shut up, chuunigger, we're discussing actual weapons.
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>>736546193
aren't estocs literally blunt? as in you can't even slash someone with them?
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>>736554721
You can lacerate with the tip
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>>736554289
Only ones I can find are made by deepeeka, might go with a cold steel Polish saber instead.
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>>736554804
you can do that with a rapier as well, and it will let you cut with the edge as well
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>>736554871
Not when you've been skewered with what amounts to a giant metal stake
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>>736554863
Oh, I thought you meant antiques. I'm pretty sure Cold Steel makes a few like the mortuary hilt, so does Hanwei.
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you guys know a chainsword mogs all of these derpy swords hard, right?
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>>736546780
Love these things. Can cut, can thrust, beautiful aesthetic, large without being oversized.
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>>736546193
Sorry m8 I need a fancy guard and a little more meat.
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DS2 had by far the best estoc in the entire series.
>str weapon so can be used with large shields
>diverse moveset
>huge damage and poise damage on r2
>long as fuck
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>>736555184
>chainsword
I'm certain no matter what this could actually be, it'll be an impratical piece of shit as an actual weapon.
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>>736555124
>mortuary hilt
Well, this lead to me finding out about the cold steel English backsword which is in stock in my country so this has been quite fruitful. Thanks.
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>>736546193
>thrusting swords
Might as well just take the spear instead, it has longer reach and you can chuck it at the enemy.
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>>736555414
>>736555184
>>736546271
book of five rings 'to touch is to cut'
a chainsword could be effective if used wisely. 40k doesn't show how a chainblade would really be used, you wouldnt beat things with it but rather block, parry, and touch with it
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>>736555850
Nice, glad to hear things worked out.
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>>736555850
>cold steel
Aren't they universally shit?
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For me its the Halberd.
Best to assume everyone i'm fighting smells like absolute shit so forgive me for wanting to keep them out of smelling distance.
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>>736555963
The idea of the teeth of two chainswords colliding with each other and not immediately getting completely fucked up is kind of absurd. Also humans don't have the same physical properties as wood, there's a reason most swords and other edged weapons don't use saw blades.
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>>736556023
>universally
As I understand they've gotten better, and also have a decent returns policy due to their shitty rep, so are now less of a hazardous purchase.
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>>736556126
this looks like a job for content creators
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>>736556023
Cold Steel are usually pretty average to pretty good for their price range. There are much worse out there, notably most brands that do replicas of regulation pattern swords with the exception of the likes of Windlass.
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for me it's pic related
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>>736556240
Mythbusters type content, sure. Like those channels that recreate anime and vidya swords and find out that unless you massively change the design principles they're completely useless weapons.
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>>736556451
sissy
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Me and the lads on our way to capture some kniggers for ransom
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Adulthood is learning that huge weapons don't really work outside of the shock & awe aspect of flipping around a greatsword to clear a path (soldiers stepping away because they don't want to get hit) or specifically unless they're a pike, a long-ass spear, used in a defensive formation with large shields so you can poke but not be poked

Elderhood is deciding huge weapons are cool anyways but accepting that using them as an everyday weapon is fiction at best
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>>736546431
>TWO sets of false eyes
What a rapscallion
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>>736557436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuRcmPnSTM
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GGWP
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let me guess, you need more?
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let me guess, you need more?
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actually, yes. I do need more.
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>>736551209
The Lordsworn's Straight Sword is so tiny in the game though, it feels like a knife
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>>736546317
>thrusting swords are for faggots
yes
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>>736546193
>heavy estoc
>bloodhound step
>Two-Handed talisman
>retaliatory crossed tree talisman
>spear talisman
Yep, it's gaming time.
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>>736558721
the weapon art is really cheap fp wise, and it thrusts far enough
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>>736558721
It's longer than the Longsword though.
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Backsword niggys WWA?
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>>736556075
A scythe is not the same as a halberd you twat
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>>736559729
Up here
>>736555850
I'm going to buy one if the world doesn't end.
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>>736556075
Yeah, Halberds are a true gentleman's weapon.
Keep the violence at arm's length.
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>>736546193
Explain to me how a frog poker kills a dragon
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87 posts of pure misinformation about ancient and medieval weapons.
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>>736547507
>>736553930
How do they put the spike on the top? Seems impossible like explaining how magnets work.
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>>736562509
Hammer a nail in there, file the head of the nail into a spike. Bingo bango bongo, bish bash bosh
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>>736561689
>87 posts of pure misinformation about ancient and medieval weapons.
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>>736562509
i think it's similar to how axe heads are inserted into handles.
they still had screws/manual drills. drill in hole. then put in spike.

perhaps there was a trick where you can insert the spike without damaging it
>drill hole
>insert spike as much as you can with your hand
>point bottom of the club upwards
>hammer the bottom of the club
the spike will be pushed in.
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>>736547507
Do spikes make maces and clubs better or worse at dealing with armor
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>>736565748
better
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>>736560015
Do you even wield that thing backwards nigga?
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>>736546193
>great epee has superior R1s, but the R2 looks weird as fuck
FUCK
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Stabbing is inherently more effective than swinging
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>>736554871
The estoc is just a giant needle, dude. Its all about raping chainmail and piercing light armor. I think there was a giant version that was used on horse kek
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>>736553797
These are so fun to use.
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>nooo my pointy stick is bett-
>FWWIPP
>AAAAAACKKK!
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>>736568852
lol
lmao even
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>Not enjoying yourself some fucking stupid awesome sword despite it making no sense
What are you all doing my negros?
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>Nightreign made Bow builds actually viable and not meme challenge run-tier.
>Duskbloods has more than one character with a gun.
Meleebros...how are we feeling about this?
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>>736546317
SPBP
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>>736547142
but they can cut and slash and smash too
pencil dick swords can't do all of those things
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>needing fancy shit when you have perfection right from the start
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>>736569953
>Something that weighs barely 3 lbs and with its weight mostly before its midpoint can smash
sure
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for me, its the scythe
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>>736570039
>Something that weighs barely 3 lbs and with its weight mostly before its midpoint can smash
Correct.
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>>736570057
>name: scythe
>weapon type: halberd
>actually: bardiche
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>>736546193
Whimsical men cast spells and charms to defeat their opponents
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>>736570246
>Flipping your sword around
At that point why not just draw a hammer?
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>>736546193
Are you calling my wife fat you piece of shit?
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>>736570429
Hammers are way less cool than swords.
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>>736546193
Aren't thrusting swords literally the weapon of women? Light, don't require much strength, the most feminine coded sword in media?
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>>736570526
I don't know, they have a certain crude beauty to them.
Also swords are romanticized to be able to do that grip it by the blade strike but it's a bit of a misconception, what usually happened is that people half-sworded it and just used the hilt as a knuckle duster during grappling.
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I simply think the Zweihander is the best looking sword in existence
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>>736569034
(pointy) stick win every time!
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>>736569953
Just add shooting to the mix bro.
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>>736569034
That didn't work so well for Crassus.
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>>736546193
I'm actually grateful weapons are more or less skins in Crimson Desert, because it means I can swag it up with practical looking weapons instead of garish wall hangers. Currently hunting wizards with my trusty billhook.
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Shout out to all the Kalkstein players in the thread.
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Straight Swords and Hammers are the most aryan weapon classes in Souls.
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>>736546827
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>>736570316
Jap just don't know White mans weapons
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>>736546193
Stormbringer.
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>>736570246
ke=1/2mv^2
and many longswords were less than 3lbs
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>>736546193
You mean the Baldur Swag Sword
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>>736546193
>greatsword stance makes it into elden ring
>but its extremely mid
>straight sword stance makes it into elden ring
>but it has a weird delay between the light and heavy so you can't chain it together as fluidly
>katana stance makes it in but they swap the parry for another attack
>rapier stance doesn't make it in
>unique scythe and dagger stances don't make it in or have any replacements
BRUTAL
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>>736574145
>and many longswords were less than 3lbs
lots of pansy longswords for manlets
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>>736574302
Your gay jrpg 20lb sword isn't going to work in real life kido
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>>736572998
Elegant.
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>>736546780
Chad sword
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>>736546193
I like rapers. With basket hilt.
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>>736574274
meanwhile in ds3
>stance is completely worthless dogshit compared to pressing normal attack

im sad we lost the frayed blade though
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>>736575367
You can just say that DS3 is by far the worst souls game period.
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>>736575367
>>stance is completely worthless dogshit compared to pressing normal attack
Stance R1 still fucks up enemy shields, even the greatshield niggas in Cathedral of the Deep.
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>>736575868
>Stance R1 still fucks up enemy shields
i literally cannot remember a single relevant shield enemy in ds3 other than ones in the cathedral
i genuinely really like ds3 weapons mechanically but their balance is so ass. they were literally afraid of making these things too powerful
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>>736576384
Right, L2s in DS3 are nowhere near as good as they are in Elden Ring, but they aren't useless dogshit.
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>>736546193
What do ladies like? Crossbows?
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The best weapon is the handgun.
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>>736574589
It will with metals and technology the plebs aren't aware of yet ;)
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>>736578137
>here is my advanced metal from the future
>>what does it do
>it weighs 20lbs
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>>736574274
I have absolutely no bloody idea why they never brought back and fixed the rapier stance despite the fact they reuse a shit ton of content.
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/v/ - Weapons
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for me, its the fist
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>>736578946
Sometimes, the old ways are the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAyPBuqGFU
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>>736578665
The Baldur Knights had a rapier stance in DS1 and I'm still mad we couldn't use it
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>>736554265
Wrong



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