>Marathon is not a big hit, and its sales performance will no doubt be disappointing to Bungie’s paymasters at Sony. But one demographic is all in, and it’s games media. https://www.polygon.com/marathon-goty-the-game-awards-best-multiplayer-game/
>game that gets great reviews from the professional critics that judge awards is well positioned for awardsWhat is confusing you anon? Game awards aren't popularity contests, Oscar's aren't judged based on box office or Marvelslop and China would win everything.
>>736546552>directly linking polygon>no archive linkfuck off and die shil
>>736546552crimson desert btfo, the critics have made it their mission to bury the game in the dirt
>>736546552How much is sony paying these people?
>>736546552what are the odds it hits EoS before the gay awards?
>>736546851>singleplayer open world fantasy>multiplayer neofuturistic FPSyou couldn't pick two more dissimilar games if you tried
>>736547260
Marathon deserves the praise, but it needs a lot of changes.
>>736546552Keighleys shill awards is 90% critic weighted and sponsored by PlayStation. It's not an outrageous statement to make
>>736546552Jews won.
I think the Marathon joke has...finished its course.
>>736547397you can't tell me this wasn't coordinated.
>>736547692Correct, about 80 years ago to be precise.
>>736546552Critics really need to wake up and smell the ashes, no one gives a fuck what they think any more.
>>736547770And they will never stop winning.
>>736546552>direct linkkill yourself Oli Welsh
No, really, where do journos get their sense of self-importance? I thought that even among journos in general, gaming journos are to that world what that one guy thinking his OC anime drawings are fine art is to the art world. Not even their own take them seriously.
>>736546642> and China would win everything.Lmao, not even remotely close, holy shit, chinkcope is real.
>>736547729Now you know why E33 popularity was faked so hard. 5 million sales after universal constant spamming articles and praise and free marketing to push it as hard as they could. Meanwhile BG3 and Elden Ring which were organically loved have each sold 30m+ each. Crimson Desert, despite being a piece of shit, has basically sold nearly as much in a month.
It's going to be hilarious if it wins anything, then again, these shills have stoppped pretending a long time ago.
>>736547729it was the exact same thing with starfield
>>736546552>Sony spent almost 4 billion dollars on Bungie just for them to ultimately only put out a fucking journocore shooter
>>736549153Bungie was reworking PS+ before Marathon
>>736547469Speaking of, the changes today were extremely lackluster. I was expecting Thief and Vandal buffs.
>>736547184>sub 30k daily high>sub 10k daily low even before the weekly server maintenance chances are very high unless Bungie can pull a miracle out of their asses
>>736546552Z
>>736551051>Thief*Recon
>>736549643These words don't mean anything.
>>736551239or they leave the servers running out of pure spite
>>736546552>the check has been cleared so we will continue shilling the sloppa as per the contractit's that simple. too bad in the real world it will continue losing players because it's just slop
>>736547184Hard to say. It'll definitely live to season 2, but anything after that depends on the changes it brings.
Extraction shooters are fucking gay and lame.
>>736546912The western vg industry is paying in consulting jobs once these hacks want to go for a career change.
>>736547971What are you talking about?>highest grossing movie in 2025 was Ne Zha 2, a Chinese film>in 2026 it is Pegasus 3, a Chinese filmIndustry awards aren't based on popularity, do you want Honor of Kangs to win game of the year every year? PUBG? Roblox?
>>736546552How strange that games journalists are incredibly positive about this product. I wonder if there are any other games where the opinion of journalists was the exact opposite of the general opinion.
>>736551860>the exact opposite of the general opinion.The general opinion of brown teenagers on social media, or of the people that actually played it?
>>736548121[Ad for Dungeons and Dragons 5e] was organically liked! There's no way Hasbro shilled for it!
>>736546552...ok?how much did the media pay for their media copies?
>>736551942We can tell by the massive drop in player count that "the people who actually played it" don't want to play it again.
>>736551051>Nerf meleewait why? that was a pretty good equalizer against shotgun spam.
>>736546552What it means is that Sony or Bungie paid the reviewers off. Instead of making a functional product, them went full retard on marketing and bribery.
>>736551942>The general opinion of brown teenagers on social media, or of the people that actually played it?lol, lmao even.
>>736546552if this wins at the TGA people will think even less of it because its obviously rigged
>>736546552Haha I hope it wins, the butthurt would be funny
>>736552421Precisely.
>>736552141you don't understand, shotgun babs NEED to win every CQC engagement even if they miss 3 times
>>736552421>because its obviously riggedCompletely sincerely, what other multiplayer shooter worth a damn is set to release in 2026?
>>736546552>>736547397This makes sense because unlike /v/, critics have good taste. They know like most people the moment they load in Crimson Desert it lacks any semblance of a soul; it’s what you’d get when you ask an AI to design a game for you. Small wonder it had AI art in the assets. Marathon on the other hand from the trailers and the moment you load in just oozes its style and personality. I’m not even sure why this is such a big deal. It’s simply put, a much better quality game and that’s pretty expected given you know, it’s Bungie.It’s quite likely that Marathon wins multiplayer GOTY and will also likely be a contender for GOTY. Looking forward to all of you dumb glazers seething when that happens.
>>736552909Hi Travis. You're a lolcow btw
>>736552896gray zone warfare is at v0.4, if it releases 1.0 before the cutoff it’ll easily win, more hype/players/momentum than maraflop and it’s by some random indie instead of an aaa giant that’s likely to be dissolved by the time of tga
>>736552981Who is Travis?>>736552991>gray zone warfareI have never heard of that game outside of Marathon threads.
>>736552981It’s curious that people like you clearly care about whether a reviewer validates your opinion or not, but then the same set of people also act like they either a) don’t matter or b) matter so much that bad ones cause games to failWhich one is it? If you truly don’t care, then why does the 6/10 for CD and 9/10 for Marathon make you seethe so hard?>>736552991Never even heard of this game. But given that it’s being pushed on here, I doubt it’s any good. I’ll ask around about this one, but unlikely that any game except Marathon wins multiplayer GOTY.
>>736552991>hype/players/momentumThose don't win awards. Critical acclaim does.>>736553086I've heard of it once because it's Czech, back when Trump was having another of his episodes and threatening Europe and we hadn't learned to ignore his dementia, there was a meme campaign of "buy European!" so we should play that Czech game instead of CoD and other American shit.
>>736553086Travis north is the guy who reviewed Crimson desert and marathon for ign. He was caught on 4chan by screenshotting his own tweet 1s after it was posted with 1 view or something like that and using it to promote hate on crimson desert, all he does is call it a 3/10 and uses food analogies to shit on it and calls everyone dumb for having bad taste gray zone won’t win any awards but it’s funny to see it succeed and have more players than marathon since last week
>>736552896GTA Online 2
>>736547184It's not a free-to-play game so they can't just shut it down six months in. Maybe legally, but the reputational hit would be a disaster.The choice is to either refund everyone, or to keep the team around long enough to fulfill the post-launch commitments and run on a skeleton crew after that.Concord sold so little that refunding was much cheaper. In comparison, Marathon is not a hit but it still probably brought in a few tens of millions of dollars.
>>736553304>He was caught on 4chan by screenshotting his own tweet 1s after it was posted with 1 view or something like thatdon't tell me you fell for such easy bait
>gray zone has more hype/players than marathon >no way that’s true>go check >it’s real damn, talk about irrelevant for Bungie holy fuck. Why did this get popular all of a sudden? I hope Marathon wins GOTY while having 5 players playing it. It’ll be really funny.
>>736553405i feel like baiting that you’re a lolcow is even more retarded than the usual larp, 1s and 1 view is enough proof. unless you’re saying it was inspect element or some shit?
>>736546552They have to justify prepaid GOTY award
>>736546789spbpif you follow the link, you are a kikeslave
>>736546552Geoff loved Highguard. I'm sure he loves this too. He should introduce a "Concord of the Year" category for his show to honor all these beloved games that launched that year but don't live to see the actual GA show.
>>736546552Which critics?
>>736547184It won't EoS but Free to Play on second reset is probable. Can't imagine how the early adopter cucks gonna feel about that one
>>736546552>What did Polygon mean by this?I have not read it but it's engagement bait, but you already knew that.
They didn’t give Veilguard GOTY why would they give marathon goty, unless they want to kill their own credibility? Dumb article, probably meant to generate ragebait clicks
>>736553568
Can people please stop giving a fuck what game journos say
>>736553949IGN rated that a 7/10 and were pretty accurate on that one ;)
the game awards will feature marathon to avoid highlighting the real goty (mewgenics) because it's too low brow for themcowards
>>736554129What makes mewgenics stand out? From what i've played it seems like a bog standard roguelite. I have played games very similar to it a dozen times now
>>736553481>Why did this get popular all of a sudden?big update came out and gray zone is pretty cool
Humiliation ritual
>>736554221It's really goddamn long, very hard at times, and despite their shitty buttrock TBOI Rebirth and Cave Story soundtracks, Ridiculon redeemed themselves with Mewgenics' OST
>>736554434Hmm ok, guess it just isn't doing it for me then. I found the OST to be very grating, gave me visions of bearded basedboys grabbing a coffee at starbucks. Wasnt digging the humor either
I like it and I'm sure old v would've liked it too. We're just 16 years past old v. Everyone wants to play card slop or sword slop and both those games would've been laughed off the board.
>>736554221Nothing, go to the actual thread and it's endless bitching about rng and lack of balance. It's just fallout shelter with cats.
>>736546552>What did Polygon mean by this?"My politically-aligned friends work for Bungie and I will do and say anything to ensure their success"
>>736553481Casuals love military sloppa. When did /v/ change from "elite taste" to "majority rules?" Should we all be playing Madden and nba2k because it sells all the copies every year?
>>736554919>I found the OST to be very grating, gave me visions of bearded basedboys grabbing a coffee at starbucks. Wasnt digging the humor eitherWell that's how Edmund is, he never changed. Same as how Valve has been using the same quippy writing for 20 years but it feels anachronistic and "reddit" now.>>736555086Tendies and gacha revenue threads have done irreparable damage, everyone circlejerks over muh revenue muh stock prices now. You'd never hear>they should have done X for more wide appeal to casuals as an argument a decade ago
>>736555086This, I’ve been trying different variations of telling people this but to no avail. Everytime I talk about Marathon and how the critics are right on both Marathon and CD, all they reply with is Steam numbers. Who fucking cares. Since when did we decide to inform our own opinions about a game by the amount of sales it gets? Whether it’s a failure or not is up to Sony and Bungie, and sure it probably is a massive one. But that doesn’t mean I can deny the sheer quality of the game. It is definitely winning multiplayer GOTY, universal acclaim by all veteran journalists plus Steam/Xbox/PS reviews from players are also all great. It doesn’t need anything else.
>>736555220Yea I dont know who edmund is since I went into the game completely blind, if it's his style I guess I would have known what I got myself into. The game does some things well but lots of design choices are opposite to what I like. I can see the charm though
>>736555086gray zone has a lot more going on for it than maraslop
>>736547971They literally vote en masse every time they can vote for one of their games. You fucking retard
>>736555086>>736555290A good game can have small numbers but this multiplayer game is losing continually losing thousand of players. If the people that supposedly like it are dropping it like flies how are we supposed to believe that is good? You might as well give GotY to Peak, Repo or any other flavor of the month
>>736554919I was also skeptical of the OST at first, but now I'm a chum bucket kitty baby living in the city.
>>736547729they get paid by sony indirectly, and other major publishers, there's too many points to not draw a line. it always happens. it's time to wake up and realize game journalists are paid shills. how do you think they employ these people when barely anybody goes to games journalist websites? their ad rev has to be complete dogshit
>>736547184Reply HazyAsk Again After Sony Financial Call in May
>>736548247Actually, the exact same thing happened with Wukong, where all the western outlets shit on it badly. And just like with CD, Wukong's numbers were raping the critic's preferred game at the time, Concord
>>736556174Marathon is good, but not great. Matchmaking is based on season level instead of skill, learning is difficult because all the tutorial you get is getting the most basic controls and mechanics explained to you, and there is no firing range, so you can only learn if you like a gun by risking it in a run. There is a good game waiting for you after the initial frustration, but there is also not that much content at the moment, especially if you don't already have the FPS skills to play in Cryo Archive. So after the first 30 or so hours, you'll only feel like playing more if you are pretty good at the game or just really like collecting loot (like me). I slowed down myself after 60 hours in, but I would still like Marathon to live and improve.
>>736552512Has there been a case of someone getting an Oscar or Grammy posthumously?They might as well make it a double award and give the other to Concord, lol
>>736553742This only makes sense with the mtx system they added before launch.
>>736553405NTA, but I caught him as well in a different Marathon thread. He fucked up and typed something like 'we don't get paid for reviews,' then shit himself and deleted the post and reposted it to say 'reviewers don't get paid for reviews.'Was hilarious. His posting is just as sloppy as his 'journalism.'
>>736553742>F2PMarathon already did F2P for its playtest weekend and couldn't beat 150k. Then the next day, they couldn't beat 80k. Going F2P would do nothing except make the cheater problem 1000 times worse
>>736557693This literally reads like an investor pitch
>>736554324I think Hunt getting higher player numbers is more embarrassing
>>736557997Thank you.
>>736546552Its Failguard again huh.
>>736548121You do yourself no favors by being retarded.
>>736558101No. Highguard's player count halved on the second day, and then halved again on the third. This is nowhere near as spectacular.
>>736547729They're so desperate that they don't care about subtlety anymore.
>>736552909>critics have good tasteCome on, you gave up the game way too early here. Trolling used to be an art.
>>736558587a art*
>>736555290I like Marathon but I hate posts like this. Numbers need to be addressed far more than anything else because with this game's pedigree it has to perform far better than new indie coop game to survive. I don't want the game to die but Bungie is doing a god awful job of making anything about it appealing to people that aren't already committed and the drop off is inevitable in a game with so many filters
>>736555290Trusting the opinions of game journalists(literal paid shills) at all puts you on a tier even lower than mindless normalfags, because even they woke up to the bullshit a while ago. You are the goyest of cattle.
>>736558457They really don't. My favorite meta was when Arc Raiders was the tranny game for the first two weeks of Marathon. Like they'd go into character creator and give a guy pigtails and say "HAHAHA THIS IS WHAT YOURE PLAYING WHILE IM OVER HERE GOONING TO NEO TOKYO BABES" it was INSANE
>>736555086>>736555290because it's fuck ugly. and fuck ugly on purpose. just like any other piece of corporate "art".
>>736558917And now it's "marathon is actually for hardcore gamers". It'sthe absolute cope that makes it so funny
>>736559341No it's more catty like "sorry marathon is too hardcore for you" because they just can't help blaming the audience/customer
>>736559334I don't think that Marathon is ugly. I like looking at it.
>>736546642They should be desu desu.Im pretty sure gamers have more hours under their belt playing vidya and knowing what a good game is than some fucking art snob that calls themselves a movie or game critic>Umm see this? Its my Marxist literature degree my mommy and daddy paid for from the University of California Berkeley liberal arts college for the misgendered and pan sexual>this means my opinion somehow means more than yoursJust cause Gordon Ramsay says poop on a stick is delicious doesnt mean poop is delicious
>>736557858makes you wonder how many AAA shills are actually here on /v/ astroturfing. i just assume anyone attacking CD are shills at this point. they're fully aware of the damage the game's popularity did to journo credibility
>>736546552Saying the quiet part out loud
I for one welcome our astroturfing friends, it's not everyday you see a company pulling a morbius on itself (especially the one that got morb'd on in the first place)
>>736560013I don't think its specifically journos. I think its every shitter who gets paid on X, that's why there's so many screenshot threads from literal whos.
>>736546552journalists are not human
>>736560013I had one snap at me that he gets paid to play Marathon while I "wagecuck" after I called reviewers who honored the embargo spineless rats
>>736555086It makes my blood boil when Dungeon Fighter Online has a kajillion players even though it's an absolute dogshit slop of a game.
I analyzed Marathon's performance over the Easter weekend. In short, it's still getting worse. In a bit more detail this weekend saw the continued decline in players numbers and two new milestones: the first sub 30,000 peak and the first Friday, Saturday and Sunday period that did not have the peak player count for the week. Maybe everyone was at church this weekend? Anyway I believe we are now transitioning into a solid 20,000 state for peak players dipping into the 8,000 to 9,000 range at lows. On average the game loses 3% of its player count every day but functionally this means actual loses should be mitigated by the overall smaller player base, 3% of 28,000 is less than 3% of 88,000 after all. As it stands, 33 days after launching peak player count is down 66% from its peak. It may now stabilize but it could still get worse. So let's think about the future. Bungie has promised: ranked mode, a C.A.R.R.I . event, QoL updates, new guns and implants. A balance patch is due between April and May. I do not believe any of this will improve the player numbers if a new map only bumped the player counts by 12%. May is also important because Sony has its earnings call on May 13th. If my modelling is accurate and I'm 95% confident that it is, the peak player count should be around 10,00 CCU, which is a disaster.Some time between June and August there will be new guns, a new runner shell and a new map. In June we have the season wipe. All gear, contract and faction progression is reset and all players have their levels reset. Personally I think this will decimate the remaining player count by as much as 40%. Without substantial new content I don't see CCU getting about 20,000 after this. But let's see what happens.
>>736560301they're just desperate to prove they're still important, but especially more important than you. they got really humbled learning that nobody actually listens to them
I love everything about Marathon except the actual gameplay.love the merchlove the artlove the musiclove the settingbut nay to the gameplay.same thing how i feel about Forever Winter as well.
>>736560519There is merch?
>>736551843I do actually want that simply because it's the reality and what the industry is doing now is equivalent to plugging up their ears and sticking their head in the sand trying to ignore the rising tide
>>736551485I hate faggots like this. Caught red handed being a hypocritical shit and ignores it
>>736547729Thing is that it's coordinated to fuck but at this time I can't make myself to get angry at it since Crimson Dessert is soulless.And before some chigger tells me I'm an industry shill I think BW:Wukong had a fuckton of soul about Chinese culture in it, but CD is just fucking gruel.
>>736546552Marathon is a good game by GAAS standards, which isn't saying much.But people are done with GAAS. They were done with it years ago.
>>736546552don't link that disgusting filth anon
>>736560013The latest stealth marketing campaigns I can think of hitting /v/ were E33 and Marathon.The anti-CD shilling is a strange thing, because I doubt anyone is being paid to do it and I think it's probably useful (woke) idiots shitting on it because the journo clique (that supports Marathon) is effectively telling them to. The same kind of thing happened with Wukong and Concord.
>>736560451Every CCU number analysis I see about this game is always "we're reaching levels of over previously thought impossible". Can F2P or a PvE mode even salvage it at this point?
This hate campaign against Marathon feels so manufactured or fake.something else is going on, no way a game like Marathon can get so much hate for having "ok" gameplay.
>>736560875Marathon is a terrible game because it has no casual appeal. I remember playing Destiny 2 and every season you can get your light level past whatever the cap was and all that became at that point was a number to show how big your dick was and how much an autist you were that season. I randomly watched with a guy in a strike that was like 40 above which means 90% of his day was just playing the game it was his life and he was doing all the end game content. However when I checked his name in the raid reports he never completed a raid so that means that autist just sat there for hours doing strikes and nothing else and he was content with that. Retards like this exist and keep your game alive. I see Marathon as trials from Destiny only with a PVE element and trials had a consistent issue with sweats running the casuals out of the mode till it's just super sweats and no one is having fun and this is always the fate with games like this today.
>>736561181The hate for Marathon is one of many distractions for the Epstein files. It's so blatant I don't know how people can't see it.
>>736560510They got their asses cratered with three slant games in a row (Wukong,Stellar blade, Crimson desert) after their ridiculous hate campaigns went nowhere and now polygon wrote an article about the rise of "outsider reactionary studios". You honestly don't hate game journalists enough
>>736546552The highest rated new games of 2026 right now, averaging low 90s/high 80s are Pokemon Pokopia, Resident Evil Requiem, Esoteric Ebb and Mewgenics.Marathon has a fucking 81 on opencritic. That's lower than Nioh 3. That's lower than Demon Tides. Lower than Paranormasight 2 or Planet of Lana 2 or Lovish or Reanimal. The only reason something getting Ghost of Tsushima/Black Myth Wukong-tier low 80s average score shows up as a GOTY nominee when there's a whole slew of better rated games is because its publisher signed a fat check to every game awards committee for the publicity.We're not even halfway through the year and there is already way more games more deserving of making the GOTY shortlist than Marathon. And if this is just another "lmao give GOTY to GoW instead of RDR2" level publicity stunt it's fucking embarrassing if they're not getting a big payout for this shilling.
>>736560451Based analysisanon returns. Keep it up, and the next major event I can think of that will impact things is the first reset in June, and I agree with you that it will cause a major drop.>>736561086>Can F2P or a PvE mode even salvage it at this point?F2P didn't work during the server slam, where half the players who tried it didn't come back the next day. It would also make the cheating problem unfixably bad.PVE could work if they turn it into a Destiny 3 type of game where there's co op PVE with optional PVP, but doing that would require firing all of Marathon's leaders/directors (since they have a hard on for PVP) and taking at least two years to rebuild the game. I don't think Sony wants to roll the dice on that.>>736561181>hate campaignThere isn't one. Since it got announced, everyone's reaction was a mix of 'what's with this weird art style?' and 'why did they make it extraction PVP only?' with most people walking away from disinterest. The /v/ reaction was mostly 'it's going to flop' and that has been proven right time and time again by this point. The only tiny group of people who were screaming for Bungie to die were a tiny amount of D2 lifers who were crazy to begin with. There was no organized 'let's all shit on Marathon' campaign of any kind, no matter how much shills try to suggest it. There was, ironically, a paid stealth marketing campaign for Marathon, but it only made people dislike the game more.
>>736561320NEW COPE JUST DROPPED
>>736561181The only hate campaigns I've witnessed were against the three chink games being problematic because they didn't have enough trannies in them
>>736561537>COPEThe term you are looking for is "joke", or "shitpost".
>>736561086they might give it some bumps, F2P moreso than PVEbut I don't think either will give the game a proper second windthe well is poisoned
>>736561505>weird art styleif anything, Marathon's art direction is actually one of it's best defining features.i mean, yea sometimes the bright colors can become overbearing, but that's it.Marathon's real mistake was making it too competitive and not casual enough, having classes instead of free customization, and not being able to switch to 3rd person view.
>>736546552If the game journo complex had ANY credibility, they would openly discuss people being put off by the modern art art direction and the fact that players are dropping the game because they're getting bored. This would also help put pressure on Bungie to save themselves.They won't do this because Concord is exactly what they want for the future of videogames. They don't WANT the industry to gatekeep talentless lunatics and to orient itself towards giving a heterosexual male audience who doesn't give a shit about their petty middle school social games a relaxing weekend.
>>736560519Never played Marathon but I feel the same way about TFW. A bunch idea guys and artists made something amazing but have no idea how to actually create a game.
>>736561181>hate for studio that fucked over their main fanbase, stole entire portfolios from an artist, and released a mutant chimera of a game is fakeOkay who's behind this fake hate campaign? And why does Bungie deserve a chance when we know they want MTX purchases above all else?
>>736546642>game is very controversial in the community space, but critics love it >the community somehow should care about critics given that they do not reflect the communityWhy?
>>736561798because player choice at the awards was Genshin
>>736561732The aesthetics are the main appeal of the game you tasteless faggot
>>736560451What is the point of spending money on MTX if the items you pay for can be confiscated at any time? Collecting shit like Beanie Babies and Labubus is stupid, but at least you get to keep your collection on your terms.
>>736547971>MKultra flesh bot got his 4 neurons automatically activated upon seeing the word 'China'Sasuga three letters agency your craft is very refined
>>736561181The hate on Marathon is one of the most easily traceable cases in history it's not artificial at all. I'd go so far as to say that it's so natural that it was obvious the game wasn't ever going to get a fair chance to begin with, the release has been embroiled in controversy and scandals
>>736546552Sony and Bungie shat out boatloads of cash.
I don't think this game is going to make it to season 3 see pic related
>>736561724>the art style is the best featureI agree and like it a lot and think it's the only 'new' thing the game does. It's definitely a 'love it or hate it' situation though and I can't think of the last time I saw a game that had such a divisive art style.What's killing the game is two things:>PVP only (borderline hardcore PVP, too)>built around 3 man teamsThese two things are also what killed Highguard (among other issues the game had), and it seems crazy to me that Bungie would not have been able to foresee this.
>>736560519>>736561724>>736561742Modern """art""" is THE pretentious midwit's art direction. It just lazily throws nonsense at the wall and then preys on your desire to feel smart to ask you to assign meaning where there is none. That's the only part of the human experience that it speaks to.It deserves to get crushed out of existence and looked back on as a symbol of how stupid things got.
preemptive middle finger from 'game journo' cabal of wokieshittery: >We WILL stuff this in to our award circus even if the audience hates or ignores it!
>>736561919i would rather just watch steam charts as apparently knowing what the majority of gamers like is better than knowing some niche gay shit like Highguard or Maratroon.
>>736562408I wondering if watching steam charts will become its own sub-genre of gaming. Then some retard makes a steam chart watching indie game
>>736562158Samefag here. It also speaks to people's hatred of beauty due to how it sorts people based on talent (not just in terms of craftsmanship, but also in understanding how the audience will perceive your work) and effort.Again, it doesn't deserve to continue existing.
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>>736561724>and not being able to switch to 3rd person view.No.
>>736560451another excel using marathon numbers enthusiast, based.
>>736561026>all the threads for e33 were paid but the crimson desert threads are all natural :^)as soon as the topic of shills come up it's impossible to discuss videogames
>>736547729We've known this for a decade.
>>736562864Is it? Add thread IDs to the page and see.
>>736560013>i just assume anyone attacking CD are shills at this point.I imagine there's people here who dislike it for being soulless open world (despite being the only AAA game aimed at men we got this year), but when someone spends hours going "This is the type of game /v/ always hates, you should hate it as well" you know it's a shill.Let's take TotK for example. When someone hates it they explain why they hate it rather than explain why you should hate it. The manipulation aspect gives it away
>>736562158>It just lazily throws nonsense at the wall and then preys on your desire to feel smart to ask you to assign meaning where there is none.I don't assign meaning to art, I just like looking at it. I don't care about pieces of art that aren't pleasing to the eye, regardless of meaning behind it. Artists should focus on drawing cool and beautiful things first, and only then maybe bother with meaning. I don't care what the artists over at Bungie were going for, but I like what they have made. Actually, after thinking about it a little, I think they are on the same page as me since they just took some art they liked from a Twitter tranny and rolled with it.
>>736561919All gachas should be banned from that shit after they offered their players a payout if they won, which just encourages botting.
Bungie single handily made the MMO experience of playing endless slop to make numbers go up mainstream. Destiny, Division, Warframe these games people will repeat the same team coop activity grinding shit out for hours a day as they have a podcast on. I have no idea how knowing this they made a game that doesn't include mind numbing "brain turn off" (as retarded zoomers say) content they can grind for hours that doesn't include another player curb stomping them.
>>736562847>Lightening levels>Bottle levels
doomers BTFO
>>736562883The tax on the score of anything that's outside of their system and that doesn't play by their rules + the shameless shilling of any major title that's inside of their system is a problem that started arising in the 6th gen and became really bad in the 7th. It coincided with the industry's growing efforts to take gaming out of the hands of nerds and place it in the hands of Hollywood. Back then, the slogan was "the wider audience". Just like today, they were obsessed with replacing you as the customer.What we're seeing right now is the implosion of a 25+ year long project. Good riddance.
>>736562847Look at that period from 5 am to 8 am today. 4 hours of sustained sub 10K CCU
>>736563690Or maybe Crimson Desert is just a mediocre kitchen sink game
>>736563681>pay for kernel level anti-cheat>tons of cheaters anywayLol. Lmao. I get the feeling these anti-cheat companies are scamming GaaS devs and that's honestly fucking based.
>>736563404I got a 10-pull on wuwa because some deranged chink botted the poll I'm okay with this.
>>736563681>ok, maybe cheating is getting bad, so we're taking steps to address it>stream sniping is bad and you better leave the heckin' streamers alone, or we'll ban you>we're also going to increase moderation for voice and text chat so nobody's feelings get hurt>here's how you can report other people for 'Poor Behavior'The cheaters must be putting a real dent in things for them to kneejerk react like this.
>>736562086>get a new black CEO>he immediately brings back the endless shrimp deal that tanked the company in the first placeHe's taking one for the hood
>>736563404Genshin did not do that, but Wuthering Waves did
>>736561447I haven't checked metacritic/opencritic at all, but even MHS3 is higher than Marathon this year. Really weird to just say "tee hee Marathon is going to the GotY noms chuds!" when there's so much already outpacing it critically this year.
>>736564251The problem for most of these companies is they are outsourcing their security to some other company rather than designing it themselves. And as a result no people in these companies have the skills anymore to handle these kind of security issues because they keep outsourcing it.
>>736564204They're openly admitting why they do this now.
>>736564512Genshin usually gives a 10 pull regardless of outcome around Christmas time every year. “Oh we were nominated for x award, have a 10 pull.”
still waiting for this fat fuck to explain what he likes about this game
>>736564616Do what, not give awards to mediocre games like Black Myth and Crimson Desert?Funny how you don't mention Lies of P, a Korean game, that received dozens of awards and nominations and high scores because it's actually a good fucking game
>>736564875I hear people say it's either a shit game or amazing no middle ground and I have no idea if I should get it
>>736547705Underrated kek
>>736547729>Ass Creed :(>Ass Creed, Korea :)
>>736565048Ubisoft's paid shills are back
Reddit is why this game gets shilled. Reddit is a garbage site. Someone made a Happy Easter thread making Jesus a Helldiver in the Helldivers subreddit and the mods not only locked the thread, they deleted it and they removed all comments just because they were pro Christianityhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1se4t6k/happy_easter_helldivers/
>>736564792The checks he gets from Sony/Bungie
>>736547397>>736547729>>736546642
>>736564875Lies of P is an 80 on metacritic
>>736565918>Mario loreThe deepest lore.
Who cares? Only GTA will win. Not because of games media but because of normie media. If you look at who votes a bunch of places are non gaming normie places like NPR. They will all vote for "le big GTA game".
>>736565918>Virtually zero plot>4.5/5Is Alien vs Predator a perfect film to her?
>>736555086This is basically a battle over whether the entertainment industry should be about some talentless Karen writer getting paid a million dollars to annoy the audience with a demonstration of how stupid and evil she is or whether standards in hiring and content should be oriented towards the customer, which is predominantly male.The entertainment industry is controlled by Marxists who view it as their moral duty to ensure that male spaces don't exist anywhere in society. The business justification that they use for this (it's not sincere; this is about ego and social status, not running a sustainable industry) is that by targeting games at men, you're excluding half of your potential customer base.On the other side, the men who've been deliberately disenfranchised by the Hollywood machine are laughing their heads off as losing them results in it bleeding out. It turns out that being the biggest media enthusiasts doesn't mean that men are some kind of default audience that will show up for things that weren't made for their enjoyment. Who would have thought?The Marxists want to do what Marxists do and lie about everything, so it's important that we always drive home that their games, shows, and comics are failures, that segments of the industry that don't play by their rules are doing great, and that the difference between the failing Hollywood machine and the rising outsiders is that the latter isn't tied down by their self-imposed rules and generally do business like a customer-oriented meritocracy.
>>736566938You haven't read a single line written by Marx in your life, pipe down nigger
>>736566342She’s judging it as shiny colors to sit children in front of. Critics are judging it as a film. The two audiences want different things.
>>736566938>The entertainment industry is controlled by MarxistsThe entertainment industry is controlled by enormous corporate conglomerates that by definition cannot be "marxist", whatever that means, never mind the actual modus operandi which is far from anything the left side of politics actually is about.Your white boi manosphere bullshit is just that.
>>736547397This games popularity genuinely baffles me, it's such dogshit.
>>736560396Isn't DFO in global and main hemorrhaging players like no tomorrow that only the hard cores and nostalgic players remain? The dev team have made some pretty questionable moves on gearing(and not in a good way though the stupid equipment leveling was finally done away some time ago) and even sped up the move to end game even more.
>>736554258>gray zoneI saw a bit for that game in the past, but the fact it seemed less PVE focused back then, I skipped over it. (Plus back then it didn't seem to run on Linux and seems to now.)Not to go too off-topic, but any anons happen to have played both Gray Zone and Single-Player Tarkov (With the Sain AI mod)? I'd be interested to know how they compare. Just from watching a few videos on Youtube the AI in Gray Zone seems kind of meh compared to modded SPT, I feel like I'd just go back to that after a few hours playing Gray Zone, maybe the big world is novel enough to make up for it though.
>>736546552Everyone keep in mind that Highguard was announced at the Game Awards and it was shut down last month.
>>736569775Forgive him, he hasn't realized it isn't 'marxists' but the tiny hat people
>>736569775i think hes confusing cultural marxism for actual marxismpeople will try and pretend the games industry isnt late stage capitalism in decline but its definirely not anything other than that
>>736546552Oh it's got a guaranteed slot on the /v/ga's in fact I bet it will get a real nice trophy to go with it.
>>736567798>>736569775>>736572087Nice try schlomo, deflect over semantics because you have no argument. That anon is right and you know exactly who he means, you crooked nose cunts.
>>736572468>Accuse someone of calling out the tiny hat people of being jewishAnon... are you okay? You're not behaving rationally.
>>736572468>Hallucinate Ozempic Jones tier nonsense>People point out the blatantly incoherent bullshit>Hallucinate some more
