>Appearing on the Mike & Rami Are Still Here podcast with publisher Mike Rose and developer Rami Ismail, Pope looked back on the success of Papers, Please and Obra Dinn, as well as his smaller efforts since. But when asked how he feels about the modern development landscape and what his plans are for his next major release, he reveals that he's worried about idea theft from generative AI and other developers.>"The situation feels different to me," he says. "You don't really talk about stuff when you're working on it because it's going to get slurped up by AI or people are gonna copy it, or something else like that. It's not a hard rule, I just don't feel as comfortable talking about the stuff I'm working on."https://www.pcgamesn.com/papers-please/lucas-pope-ai?callback=in&code=YMFIZWZLNDATZTDIMC0ZYWY5LWEWODITMZRMYTA4OWQ4MZM2&state=7b625985ea1d4383b600c6d29b03574a
Reasonable
Unreasonable
>>736559640Smart. I absolutely would use AI to steal his work and profit from it. (I probably still will)
He doesn't need to share it. It will sell once it drops
>Rami Ismail
That's valid, you can develop games much faster using AI.Specifically for indie games it's entirely possible to recreate the core mechanics using AI, if not the story content.
I'm in the process of beating Rockstar to releasing GTA 6 myself so I understand where he's coming from
>>736559640first world only internet can't come soon enough
>be first time dev releasing a game>no following to carry sales>need to shill my game everywhere or else nobody will give a shit>AI jeets find my game and copy it>asdf
>>736559640he's a smart motherfucker
>>736560045It is funny how much anglosphere wants to be in an echo chamber, speaks volume about people lacking any kind of introspection. Hope you fags get your great firewall you want so much.
Unbelievably retarded take. Lucas Pope managed to insult his own value as a game developer.This is the guy who managed to kickstart two whole indie genres on his own. Even now I'm still seeing Papers Please-likes getting made. Exactly how is an AI supposed to steal an entire new genre of game?
>>736559640Obra dinn was a masterpiece and papers simple is a simple but original classic.This man is 100% right.Fuck aislop
Generative AI should be banned globally. It's legally definable, and it doesn't hurt where AI can and is doing good. There is literally no good use case for generative AI.
>>736559640I wonder what he is making. He did say in an Obra Dinn interview he wants to make something his kids could play.
>>736559640If he's concerned about his ideas being copied he's right to keep things close until the games are close to release.Most media is built on at least some kind of idea theft, this isn't a long-term concern.He's one of the guys that'll benefit most from AI flooding new releases because people will always seek out works from well-known artists like Pope.
>>736559640Wise move
>>736560045based
>>736560296Didn't happen with Papers Please or Obra Dinn. Why would it suddenly happen now?
I will forever be a Lucas Pope dicksuck, I hope his new game is as good as the others
>>736559640this is like a fat ugly woman being worried about getting roofied or raped. lil bro there are a billion slop indie games like yours made every day, you lucking out with some eceleb deciding to play it doesnt change the fact your game is slop and hasnt innovated or affected the gaming industry or culture whatsoever. complete forgettable slop fotm game
>>736560359-yes it did-those games are already released he is saying that if he shows his new idea some vibe coder will pump out games like it before he can release it
>>736559640Copycats i can definitively understand, the amount of porn Papers, Please parodies are on the double digits so waiting to reveal how your new game plays is a smart choice, but AI? Seems a bit silly, while his games are visually interesting neither is particularly pretty outside of their context and i wouldnt play a game because of the same aesthetics.
>>736560423>lucas pope>indieslop >fotm
>>736560423> fat ugly woman being worried about getting roofied or rapedshy ugly women are actually the most likely to be roofied and raped you retarded subhuman NIGGER if you speak on this website again with your inane babble I will personally hunt you down and cave in your skull with the claw end of a hammer
>>736560441I don't remember any Papers Please or Obra Dinn clones being released before the original.>-those games are already releasedI'm talking about before they released.
>>736560229The internet was a much nicer place in the 90s/early 00s, before smart phones flooded the net with retards.
>>736560534shut the fuck up nerd>>736560529literal irrelevant nobody
>>736560541ok maybe read the third line I wrote
>>736560109there was a thread awhile ago about a noname indie dev having his game demo stolen.the copycat just changed the character's colors around.noname dev had barely any following too.crazy shit
>>736560359AI makes it much easier to code something up.Most people know AI for image and video generation, but that's nothing.Using it to code things up mindblowing to the point that some digital firms had their stocks crash because it would be easy to just code up the same platform from 0.We're on the brink of an absolute flood of games, programs, operational systems, anything code based.It's like someone invented the mechanical loom and now fabric is 10 times cheaper.
>>736560582Maybe read the post I made to begin with.>Didn't happen with Papers Please or Obra Dinn. Why would it suddenly happen now?
>>736560495I don't think AI can easily copy Obra Dinn
>>736559640so what's going to be /v/'s cope this time?the usual "only shit devs are worried about this!" meme?
>>736560621They answered your question. Vibe coders.
>>736560229we also hope that happens
>>736560621obra dinn was released almost 10 years ago, before any retard could use claude to pump something out times have changed
>>736559640makes senseif nothing else, his name alone associated with an idea will be enough for everyone to rip it off
>>736559640if your idea can be replicated this easily then it's worth jack shit
>>736560639Gameplay wise? Absolutely not, aesthetics wise? Sure, it wont be the same thing but feed it 200 screenshots of it and it will spit out the artstyle with 90%~ accuracy.
>>736560708>>736560620>>736560747How do you "vibe code" an unreleased game, with little to no idea how the game even works at the most basic level? Reminder that we basically didn't know what Obra Dinn's gameplay was until the thing released.
>>736560706nevermind, already happened lmao >>736560423this place is a joke
>>736559640the jeets are NOT going to like this
>>736560790it's worked for him so farhis two big hits are both incredibly simple concepts
>>736560916then it's settled, if he has a following people will even buy his shit on a plastic bag
>>736560859the place with a dedicated thread to underage boys and people posting catboxes of them getting fucked is a joke?! what the fuggggg?! the shithole imageboard with entire boards dedicated to pedophiles and sissy raceplay fetishists is... LE BAD?! its not serious discussion?! whaaaat?!
>>736560987O_O
>>736560238it's not, but it can poison the release of the game by some jeet quickly stealing the base level concept and making quick shitty AI art and then pushing out a game with a billion bugs and a name nearly identical to the one he had for his gameand now everyone thinks of the shitty AI game and he'll get drastically less sales even if every person who got tricked into buying the AI game refunded it
>>736560858you take the name, you take the art, and you release a crappy clicker game with that art and name
>>736560229i don't give a shit, back to quora with you
>>736559640I hope he won't forget to add some gameplay in his next game lol.
>>736559929Based.Release date?
>>736560858https://fguillen.github.io/PapersPleaseDevlogScrap/#2014Aprilhere's his devlog about papers pleasenot sure why he stopped making these but you could very easily steal this game in a month with modern vibe coding tools
>>736561218Something that was feasible to do before AI even existed. In the end bootlegs are nothing new and people don't get confused about what the actual original is. Especially if the original is coming from a dev with reputation. Especially if the bootleg literally was unable to do the actual game idea due to a lack of actually having the game to copy.
>>736560045Truth supernova. At the very least introduce premium packages to access anything outside of your area. The poor need to stay in their containment zones.
>>736560229>speaks volumeActually it's quite cut and dry Rakesh: We don't want to deal with your retarded ramblings, gaslighting, and scam artistry.
>it's okay if it's /v/ doing the stealing
Maybe, just maybe, your indie game does not need a year long hype train like its some 300 million dollar AAA blockbuster? Just put out a trailer two weeks before release.
>>736560045start just banning them no questions asked
>>736561585>
>>736561583That game is soul and made with no budget. It also costs nothing.
>AI bad, updoots to the leftbait for internet sheep
>>736559640Meaning that the game is so easy to make that someone can release it before him starting way later than him?
>>736561464>The poor need to stay in their containment zones.but the only poor are subhumans like you and him
>>736561585dont you retards get that you being a swarthy brownoid turdie makes you so inferior in people's eyes that east asians and whites literally have moral panic at becoming like you because they see you as that pathetic and subhuman compared to them, that its a terrible fate for humanity to be subhumans like you? you do realize that panic is manufactured over people feeling so disgusted by you lol. and even if yt was gone you'd still be oppresed by a yellowchud, then a latinx chud, then a mena chud, literally everyone will always consider swarthy people of poop coloring to be subhuman ugly freaks and be disgusted by you :(
>>736560858I don't know what was known about Obra Dinn before release, I only played it much later.But I can't say that a demonstration or a promo of the new game would not expose enough gameplay to be copied.>how do you vibecode an unreleased gameif it's a one-man project, you can probably steal a lot of ideas very easily, even if they're vibe-coding themselvesanything system related is very easy to recreate
>>736560045>release AI swarms on the internet>"Oh no, we need total biometric tracking everywhere and at all times to make sure you're human".>idiots will fall for itIt sucks being cassandra
>>736561585India's already at below replacement level. Now back to call center, Rakesh.
>>736560229There are 7 billion people in the third world and their contributions to the internet are:>Incessant scams>AI slop>retarded nonsensical diy project videos>retarded nonsensical github PRs editing readme.md for free t-shirts >rapey comments on underaged girls facebook profiles >videos of rolling and smashing glass jars of paint down the stairs >mind rape videos on youtube kids You could block every single one these subhuman locusts and nothing of value would be lost and everything would improve drastically. Third worlders treat the internet like they treat any other kind of environment they have access to, fill it with festering trash and shit. No self awareness, civic sense, capacity for self governance. A giant heaving mass of roaches scuttling desperately to stay on top of one another. I honestly cannot for the life of me remember finding something on the internet that impressed me and learning that it came from India. Can you? Just one single thing where you thought; damn I'm glad India has internet so I could see this post.
>>736561962>>736561991>>736561873
>>736560229Access to white people is not a human right.
>>736559640He’s making another actual game after spending years on Playdate?
>Aren't you upset about the thousands of knockoffs made by people by hand with low quality asset flips and otherwise ruining the experience>NOPE PERFECTLY FINE Then what's the problem with AI >ITS HECKIN PROBLEMATIC AND I"M TOLD ITS GONNA STEAL SHIT AND BE ALL EVIL IT WAS HANDED OUT TO ME IN MY CULTURE WAR STARTER KIT FOR MY SIDE People need to stop pretending that AI is either some sort of perfect one click god or an evil heckin problematic devil. Fuck Ben Sledge here for only focusing on the AI bit and nothing else. Rot in hell your biased shitstain who is just creating clickbait because >Guy who created several indie titles, doesn 't want to give away too much lest others knock off his stuff doesn't get the same algorithmic response as opposed to >TEH AI GONNA STEAL TEH AI AI AI
>>736559929His games aren't technically complex like GTA
>>736559640For Rando fucko it would be unreasonable but given he made multiple games that sold well and are popular and even got regular copycats already?Yeah, reasonable.Multiple AIjeets would absolutely slop it up.
>>736559640just shows what kind of slop indiefags pay for if AI can easily do it
>>736562237Crazy how you made up that entire scenario in your head as if he doesn't say "slurped up by AI OR people are gonna copy it"
>>736559640It's a nice excuse to just say AI poopy, but decades and decades have passed where anyone can just copy from a trailer or whatever. It would be more honest to just say he'd rather spend his time on something else.
>>736562237>Rot in hell your biased shitstain who is just creating clickbaithello Rasheedkill yourself
>>736559640I kinda regret putting off making my gaem until now
>>736562493You seem unable to read. HE said that, but the person writing the article focused on the AI shit. Ther'es a reason I said Ben Sledge is the issue, not Rami Ismail .
>>736561962what's the alternative? drowning in aislop and third world nonsense?
>>736560045This but also revoke fourth worlders access as well. That is to sayNuke all amerimuttsEradicate them all
>>736561882Even showing off footage of obra dinn's artstyle would be challenging to replicate. Dither filters can very easily look messy.
>>736559640AI is god's gift to us to annoy retarded niggers like this
>>736559640smart. reynad showed bazaar footage too early, and super auto pets was born
>>736559640Seasonable
>>736559640This AI hype is going to crash and burn the entire economy.I refuse to buy in this AI hype train.And no, I didn't vote for this.
Bro thinks he is Alexander
>>736563429I completely agree, visual style, story substance, that stuff can't be copied.But mechanics - if they can be described they can be copied. And for some games that's a big enough of a deal.Not sure how original Obra Dinn was in that regard though.
>>736563543>don't buy modern day slop>don't buy modern day subs for AI or streaming>don't subscribe to literally anything aside from spotify family>nothing gets made for me because i'm problematic or something>all franchises i used to like are crashing and burning, if not puppeted by zombie corpo's using brand names to push games when not a single person on the team is from the original team
>>736560238>>This is the guy who managed to kickstart two whole indie genres on his own.Now imagine kickstarting a third genre without releasing the game first and getting millions for it so you don't care about all of the copies. How do you not understand the issue?
>>736563543it doesn't matter whether you buy into it,it's already in games, and I'm not talking about AI generated assets which you can recognize as AII'm talking about the code
>>736560289>I wonder what he is making. He did say in an Obra Dinn interview he wants to make something his kids could play.I mean both of his games are just like... hidden object games with more text. You just drag things into boxes. It's the shittiest possible gameplay. Maybe he'll "discover" the point&click adventure genre soon?
>>736563429>>Even showing off footage of obra dinn's artstyle would be challenging to replicate.LOL
>>736559640Guys I just drew the Mona Lisa 2. What? No I won't show you it because... Uh because you'll just feed it to the AI! Yeah it's YOUR fault I can't release this ;)
>>736559640nooooo this is terrible he should definitely show off what he's working on in great detail!
>>736560229>It is funny how much anglosphere wants to be in a safe, clean hardworking society, speaks volume about people lacking any kind of diversity. Hope you fags get your great nation you want so much.thank you, please enjoy your turtle corpse river and streets made from mud>>7365604231/10 ragebait>>736559890correct
>>736559640I've already seen AI copies of Papers Please so I don't really blame the guy.
>>736559640Okay? Then don't show it off. Tell us about it after you release it.
>>736562082Access to thirdie resources is not a human right either. Pull that plug and the first world crumbles over night without Chang's manufacturing, Pajeet's slave labor, and Ngubu's lithium.
>>736559890Rami has basically fucked off from dev long before he since he sold the other half of Vlambeer to JW.Hes a literal twitter nobody now who should not be paid attention to.
>>736559640Does he really think he has an original idea? Does he really think showing a trailer or even talking about it will make some ai copy his shit? What kind of boomer understanding of "ai" is this?I'm getting baited by a retarded journo headline again aren't I, not going to give your shitty tabloid any views. Im archiving the link, currently 9k in queue so it will be available in a few min. https://archive.is/wip/cKnq7
>>736561843seething
>>736564318your literal who indie oldfaggot dev is the one that reached out a jeet journalist and accepted his interview in hopes of giving a snarky oneliner and appearing cool and owning le hecking ai chuddies. It's incredibly cringe. You could just say you don't want to reveal things and keep it at that instead of pretentious gay humblebragging about how you are so hecking important when literally nobody knows you exist outside of a few niche neckbeards on amateur game dev 4chan threads.
>>736560229He are some fresh indian takes.
He's not a nobody. Showing it in an unfinished state would only give copycats a head start. It probably is a somewhat original but also simple game that will spawn many cheap copies once it's out,
>>736563715There's a lot of intricacies to Obra Dinn's premise to just copy over a vague description. It's a bit like thinking you'll be able to write a gripping murder mystery story on the idea of a whodunnit alone. It really does feel like it undermines the skill that goes into a game like that.>>736563830Because the copies for PP and Obra Dinn were both done with the benefit of having the actual game released (and seeing the success of the premise first hand).
>>736561991I saw a gore gif posted recently where an elephant stomps on his jeet trainer that I thought was cool.
>>736559640>veteran indie developer>veteran
>>736563373So what does that make retarded ESLs like you? Fifth world? Sixth? A double-digit number like your IQ?
>>736559640>say what game I'm working on is like>AI breaks into my house, steals my idea, makes 100000 exact copies of it and kills my dogdoes the guy believe this will actually happenthis sounds more like an excuse to keep people from persistently bothering you about your game
>>736559640if he thinks AI could be used to copy his game before he can finish it, why doesn't he just use AI to make his game faster? is he stupid?
>>736564542he had two original ideas so far, which is a lot more than virtually any other indie dev out there
>>736565104>>736565043poo coded posts
>>736560045rich, coming from a xitter screencap poster(You)
>>736565154stop projecting and go back to your designated street, rajesh
>>736564947we now live in a world where single-A devs are considered "indie".Indie no longer means some dude in his garage trying to make a game on his spare time while holding down a job.We got niggers like that neckbeard faggot LegendaryDrops who insists that Expedition 33 is an INDIE game even though it's clearly single-A or low-tier AA budget.
>please PLEASE GAVE ME THE WHITE IDEAS SARR OTHERWISE MY SHIT MACHINE CANNOT STEAL FROM YOUSmany cases
>>736565120>puzzle game where you try to piece together an event that already occurred >spot the difference gameVery original ideas, do not copy. Neither of those games were innovative from a perspective of gameplay, they were both just glazed by journalists for being narrative slop and pushing the movieification of games forward.
>>736565296So weird how every product purchased today is an AI rip off of another product! I guess it's completely impossible to make anything on your own now that AI is widely used.
>>736560229>just let me into your house saar I want to shit on your floorIf I want to go visit 'your Internet', that should be my choice.
>>736561962>total biometric trackingThat's only happening in the USA and other shitholes, EU is getting a ZPK based verifier.
Adapt or die. This goes for worthless indie gamers as much as everything else.
>>736564673stop thinking about giant juicy black cock mmkay fag?
>>736565296why are jeets so mentally ill? can't even go one second without them trying to turn the topic to themselves
>>736565418you know, i was shocked to hear that indie games have a HIGHER flop rate than AA or AAA games.I always thought that indie games were more successful.Crazy.
>>736565252>Indie no longer means some dude in his garage trying to make a game on his spare time while holding down a job.It never meant that. It was an Independent Artist. As in not owned by or employed by a studio that takes on contracts from a major label publisher. You can have your own 100 man studio that self publishes and be Indie right up until the point where you start buying in other studios to do work for you as a primary publisher. Then your Indie label becomes a publishing label.
>>736560045>meanwhile the US president posts AI videos of himself flying a jet and dropping liquid shit on peoplehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugrn6DNAYEU
>>736560045Japan twitter is the best thing that has happened to twitter. Oh and blocking off the entirely of india.
>>736565716I don't why Americans are so hype about Japanese Twitter, my Twitter has been Japanese for years now. Is it THAT hard to go outside of your bubble?
>>736565463Indie games have a sort of "false success" problem. I can't think of a better way to label it. Basically if you're a guy aged 20-35 that has only ever held a job that pays $40-$100k a year and your cat simulator game you made while on unemployment suddenly makes $1mil. then you're pretty much set for life. But to a AA let alone a AAA studio, $1mil. doesn't even pay for the coffee. The latest CoD "flops" when it can't clear a billion.So this leads to Indies winning the app store/steam lottery where just dumb luck and randomness leads to the right streamers playing their game at the right time for the sales to "flood" in. They will then invest that money into their next game, which then flops because they were really not that special and their next grand idea wasn't any better than their first one, the dumb luck money just found another target.See Jonathon Blow. Braid was meh, but it was part of a new market with few choices. He can't follow up that "success" because he's a 5/10 game designer at best and only has his name to trade on.
>>736559640>and developer Rami Ismailthis grifter has been around since the GG days
qrd on this guyonly know papers please and obra dinn
>>736565043>AI breaks into my houseI mean it's already there if you have Windows or use any dev tools really?
>>736565971he made papers please and obra dinn
>>736559640>aaaa i'm so special, I will be disproportionally affected among the 10000 other indie slop games released that monthFAAAAAAG
>>736565043Long before AI slop, long before Indie shovelware, Nintendo realised that showing off new footage of their games at E3/Shoshinkai was just giving the shovelware producers a chance to steal your ideas and fart them out onto the shelves while Miyamoto was still laboring over the details. Nintendo games would launch with a core game design that felt stale even though they technically invented it.(For the 20 year olds here, yes, Nintendo DID innovate. A long time ago.)
>>736565519By your logic World of Warcraft was an indie game when it was released.
>>736566249Pretty sure that's just nips been queer weirdos.
>>736559640Reasonable. I myself have been using AI to copy Order of the Sinking Star. The AI is shit, though, so I still have to write ~90% of the code myself.
>>736565363Every announced indie game with any traction gets several AI copycats desperately trying to beat it to the punch.
>>736565716>>736565765Wait, what are you guys talking about? My feed has also been almost exclusively Japanese, mostly because I follow artists
>>736559640He just wants to procrastinate
>>736559640>"AI will stop me from doing X">Others continue to do X and do fineAlways looking for an excuse.
>>736565043There are several indie games that already got cloned before they were even released, including Baba Is You. (Some of them went unnoticed for months, others were quick to get pulled down because the developers were retarded enough to also use very similar art instead of doing something different, like in Baba's case where they just recolored the existing sprites.)It happens a lot with "concept heavy" indie games where the game is centered around one simple fun hook, which of course becomes easy to copy once you've already seen it. I'm not against games being cloned but obviously I understand why an indie developer wouldn't want to show his game too early, especially if he's only 1 guy. A team of 5 guys with AI today could definitely beat you to the punch.
>>736566569Pope has historically been an innovator in the indie zone, so it’s obviously advantageous situation to keep quiet to stop infinite vibecoded slop with AI assets from stealing your shit.
>>736566283blizzard has been owned by vivendi since 1996
>>736560229>speaks volumeesl retard
>>736561585nice nazi conspiracy incel
>>736566665>historically
>>736566375Even if that's true, the original sells better than an awful AI clone. The point is that you can ask AI to make you a sequel to Frozen and it still won't have the box office returns of Frozen 2.
>>736567184Doesn't matter. A shitty AI copy has a budget of 10$ at most and takes little to no effort to make relatively speaking. As long as they sell more than a couple of copies they still profit from the ordeal.
>>736567184Why are people using such retarded analogies. Frozen is a super high budget work, it's not an indie game. Yes you can't make a clone of the 800 million dollar budget GTA 6 game with an AI, yet you absolutely can make a clone of Papers Please just with a demo available, and release it months before the original developer.
>>736566249Imagine having BING BONG WAHOO man on your mind 24/7Must be a sad life.
>>736559640So much for the democratization of art
>>736567409I don’t know who told you that you are owed the ideas of others so you can make shitty copies to try to scam people.
i wonder what the mobile stores look like with the widespread use of AI
>>736567770probably not any different, AI has roughly the same development ability as indians
>>736560045White people gave up their rights to exist when they allowed jews to take over.
>>736567493Don't you guys literally cry about not being able to use the IPs of companies, and getting sued for it? Crying about Fangames being taken down, etcetera. Do you guys hate copywrite or not?
>>736568074>Do you guys hate copywrite or not?I hate pointless marketing copy, and the people who write it, but I don't see what that has to do with Intellectual Property rights.
>>736568074But this isn’t copyright, this is the same as not filing a patent before you release your item to avoid copycats beating you to market. He hasn’t filed anything, he’s just not telling you what he’s making.
>>736568074saar
>>736567493You can't own an idea, baka.Its like saying you can own the idea of jumping in a video game. No one is stupid enough to say they created that.
>>736560045>first world only internetNormally I think it would be nice for every country to have their own intranet but just about every organization, whether it's a company or a nation, in charge of such an endeavor would have every reason to enshittify it, whether it's through turning it into a propaganda outlet or monetizing the fuck out of it. I'm not worried about India because I know their culture will normalize with the rest of the world within a century or so, I am more worried about tyrants that figure out how to subjugate people more efficiently through technology. Also generative AI is evil.
>>736568251Yeah, which is why he’s not telling you his idea, retard.
>>736568339>more distant third world daydreaming about their dogshit societies becoming less backwardyou won't be alive to see it retard
>>736564271kek
>>736568251Miyamoto did try to push the idea that he created vidya jumping, legitimately.
>>736568521I'm second world. You underestimate how cultures change over time, the internet age is only a few decades old.
>>736560620>making stuff up to the tune of 2 more weeks till agigood morning sir
>>736560045This but no americans, north or south or centralor medsor britsor eastern europeor central europeScandi + Baltic internet supremacy
>>736567341Ok then make bigger budged itiod? Use AI to increasee it for you too?
The whole "It's okay to share your idea no one is going to steal it because of how much work it takes to realize it" worked before AI became so prevalent, it's too easy for Saargus McClaude to slop something together in a weekend now.
I just want to make a game
>>736560229I would also settle for access to the Chinese internet
>>736568676>I went as far as thinking that jump is an original idea and that it should be patented!Miyamoto is still a crazy gook but that reads like sarcasm.
>>736560045>Wants a "White Internet">Weeb with Okinawa in his nameWhy is it always like this? Have they just convinced themselves Japanese are "honorary whites" or something?
Good point. Lex Fridman mentioned that there is a bet going on at openai on when the first billion dollar startup is made with AI. Somebody there thinks it will be this year. But no great app will be on the market long enough to make that kind of money if AI can make something similar in a week or two or even a couple of hours.
>>736570058lmao pseud
>>736560045>OkinawaMoonglazer>White internetDoes this person know those Indians were let in the open gate, into the west and their coveted honorary aryan nippon?
>>736564673I dunno but Papers Please and Obra Dinn were really good!
lol there is a non-zero chance this guy has some faggot roblox developer waiting to steal his game concept day 0.
>>736559640yeah, i get that, you could vibe code some slop based on a screenshot long before the actual game comes out.
>>736560229Nothing of value will be lost by not being able to communicate with the brown mass.
>>736567493>I don’t know who told you that you are owed the ideas of others so you can make shitty copies to try to scam people.That's literally what democratization of art means? What did u think it was lol?
>>736560790is it? paper's please-likes is practically it's own genre now.
>>736571271And the one that started it was the only good one
>>736559640Makes sense to me. If he broadcast his ideas you'll get slop artists trying to impersonate him as Lucys Pope.
>>736562681unironically we need the jannies to save us lol
>>736571404and the only one people actually know of
>>736561583When philosphers say great artists steal, this game is what they meant by it. It's an artistic steal.
>>736571404This dude is the reason we don't have the Nemesis System in other games.
>>736570265Internet culture, like video games, has largely been an American-Japanese cultural and technological exchange for decades.
>>736564963Muttroon melty
>>736571896No, the reason you don’t have the nemesis system in other games is because of patent abuse and lawfare. No one is stopping you from making yet another papers please ripoff
>>736560045Only USA, EU, and Japan should have internet. I remember the glory days
>>736560045performative
>>736559640Just wanted to say Papers Please was fucking fantastic, and I wish it got ported to modern consoles
>>736572656It can run on basically every PC you will have access to, man. Hell has a mobile app.
>>736560229>>736560045The British empire is to blame for all of this btw.
>>736560229Kill yourself, no one likes you.
>>736561583It's free and also an entirely different genre. It was a fan game at worst
>>736559640more people should say it loud : AI is theft on a global scale and its corporation stealing from everyone and then selling it back to us
when I see indian hate on the internet I feel so proud. I love you guys (2.47% homo)
>>736571271This one is pretty good, the creator is making a new one in the same format but with a different artist which is disappointing
>>736561991Basically just for trains killing them. India could disappear overnight and the world would immediately improve>>736564134More like, guys I'm 50-70% through making the mona Lisa. No you can't see it until it is finished, be patient
>>736572306Cordon off burgertown in their own cesspit zone where they can scream about their politics and we're golden
>>736560045Unironically thisBan all filth from Europe and America
>>736573480Agreed, can't stand eurotrash constantly shitting up the internet talking about american politics that has zero relevance to them
>>736559640Shit thats fair. His games are simple enough a few jeets and chatgpt could copy it in a day or two.And jeets are fucking retarded.Papers please was pretty great though not gonna lie.I know nothing else hes done.
Chat?
>>736560045I hate what indians did to Youtube. It's now almost unusable because everyone does the same kind of video to bait indian viewers who keep watching those trash.Clickbaits / AIvideo / Fake trailers / Can X do Y / 100 X vs 100 Y / XYZ explained / Everything you missed in XYZ.The biggest plague that internet currently has are those REACTION videos
>>736569912Jomon Japanese have Aryan ancestry. You shitskins will NEVER get it.
>>736574030there's still no way to remove indians from youtube. personally I just block channels after hear 0.2nanoseconds of indian accent.
Good games that drop out of nowhere with zero hype usually do well. People over share too much and get people to have raised expectations over the game.
Papers, Please and Return of the Obra Dinn are masterpieces so its a smart move from him. I await his next ludokino.
>>736572846I thought the mobile version was discontinued
>>736560045>pic relatedEvery fucking time
>>736559827Cringe AI dickrider>>736559767Why is this thread still up? /thread
>>736574896
Good.Indie devs have needed stop the 'build 1.02v early access for 10 years' bullshit for a while now.Announce it when it's in a state to be announced, not that you've drawn a dick, called it rupert and you're "working on it" 10 minutes a week.
>>736560045Fun fact:>Only around 40% of india has access to the internet
>>736574726Might have been. I have no idea about the mobile ecosystem, all I know is that it existed.
>>736560045Based.>>736560229There is literally nothing of value from 3rd world brownoid shitholes besides slave labor and natural resources. I speak fluent Japanese and frequent Japanese twitter but almost every viral tweet gets spammed with jeet/nigerian engagement baiting subhumans, it genuinely fucking sucks.
>>736560045You'll just be crying about Indians using VPNs or some other boogeyman after that
>>736560045>illegal for the third worldActually you should be required to have 10 years of internet experience before being allowed to post on it.
>>736575820by adding a layer of payment you immediately filter 90% of the jeets
>>736560045I hope you get everything you want and nothing you need
>>736576012is just a matter of time to have the same problem again. I live in south America and I've had internet since 1995.
>>736559640I use AI and I've been waiting with baited breath for this random ass indie game so I can use AI to steal it or something.
>>736560229You don't appreciate how bad the rest of the internet is when you remove Western domains.
>>736573793Anchient shit post
>>736565790I would just like one game to make me enough money to never have to slave at my 9-5 again. Then I can spend the rest of my life making more games.I don't care about being uber rich and successful. I just want to make games and not have my soul crushed by big corpos every day.
>>736577152My exact same thoughts. I am fine continuing to live in squalor as long as i dont have to go to a worky job ever again and can dabble with making games as a hobby/side gig.
>>736563373Very cool ranjeesh
>>736560045>all the jeets this post sent into a stinky rampage
>>736560284>CODING SHOULD BE SLOW AND PAINFUL BECAUSE........... BECAUSE IT JUST SHOULD BE OKAY?!?!!you are a dumb nigger
>>736565359bot post
>>736559640so hes actually working on something? thats good to hear
>>736560045> User Location: Tel AvivSure Jan.
>>736579919It's only slow and painful in the beginning. Any experience programmer is going to have macros set to streamline their workload, while also making code that they understand and can annotate.
>>736580427generative code is just like copy and paste shit from internet or code you did before. the real issue here is that AI bros can't do more than "AI make GTA6"they have no fucking idea what they are doing.
>>736560045Even being able to filter languages would help so much. I remember joining Twitter last year, legitimately every other post on my feed with either Indian or from the Taliban, and the rest was swimsuits.
>>736580274saar you are jew bastard??? benchod??? free AI videos just redeem rajcoin saar
>>736580427MF what the hell have I been doing with my life then?
>>736580274It's so transparent
>>736580721you realize israel is a third world country right?
>>736560229I don't want a firewall, I want the permission to kill you.
>>736575294They have a yuuge population, even .1% would be too much
>>736580713... Not making your life easier by assigning common functions to macro keys? Not making and using code banks?
>>736560045my sides. fucking based as hell.
>>736559640that's cool I'll check it out when it releases then
>>736581030I don't because my big problem with coding is how I don't know the order in which everything goes
>>736559640didn't this happen before vibe coding was even a thing with donut country
>>736560045I would make a website that filters vpn/turdie traffic, but it would never take off so what's the point?
>>736559640>software made by jews>used by browns>to copy white people's cultureWhat a pickle
>veteran indie devso he never made it out of unemployement the half assed incompetent faggot?
>>736559640>Gets completely mogged by a porn game.I think we know the REAL reason why this nigga doesn't want someone to come along an make a better version of his game before it comes out.
>>736579790I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted by the jeet jannies honestly
>>736579790not surprised
>>736559640The moment you upload something to the internet it becomes public domain and no longer belongs to you. This is how it works. why can't you understand this?
>>736559640made up scenario made up in his head
>>736564824But the AI boogieman can clone it in an instant!
>>736559640I like this, more devs should do this. Complete media silence until just before release. It'll keep things more authentic I think.
>>736567493Supply and demand
>>736560045HOLY BASED HOLY SHIT WTF
Just wait untill EU rules out regulation of AI-usage.
>>736560045Americans are the dumbest people on Earth and yet they think they are the smartest
>>736560238It's not retarded at all. AI still doesn't innovate. It just recycles/pulls from ideas that are already out there. His concern is legitimate as he has a history of setting trends, doing things differently, and generally coming from left field. People making slop shouldn't be worried about theft, because they're already barely modifying things that already exist. If I was him, I'd have the exact same modus operandi. Maybe you don't truly grasp how frothing-at-the-mouth all these AI fags are to jump on something ASAP & use AI to shit their turd out first to capitalize on sales. These people are creatively bankrupt snakes and will do anything they can for money.
>>736560045Better yet, keep the internet as it is but purge retarded pajeets from existence altogether
>>736560045
>>736559640>Papers, PleaseA superior sequel was already released though.
>>736576592Anima preview 3 though, so spicy!
SAARS
>>736559640>Papers, Please devYou mean the CRANK GAME dev? The world renowned crank controlled game? HAHAHAHA.
>>736585745simple ingenuity like this makes poos seethe huh
>>736585842>gimmick shit for hipsters and soys >simple ingenuity
>>736564641go to bed
>>736565235stop deflecting and go back to cleanse up the wallmart, schlomo
>>736565391It's unfathomable how bad it would be in 2026. Remember that it was the upper 80 million of americans too, not the entire population back in 1998.
>>736585745I would have got this if it used physical media for games.
>>736586191It's hard work cleaning up the stink after your kind lock themselves in the walk in oven.
>>736560045unironically if we cut off the indian subcontinent and all connected countries from the worlds tele-communiction network the amount of scams, spam, and ai slop would fucking shrivel up to basically zero
>>736564823The bucket thing is expressly SEA, Filipino in specific
>>736560594Funny you mention that since the thread talking about it found out the guy who copied it not only is a white brit, but has been doing it for a long time with countless new and classic gamesFits this thread perfectly
>>736560045Nobody's gonna mention the NFT profile pic? This guy IS the Indian cancer her professes to hate
>>736559890this desu yo ne
>>736559640>y-yeah I'm totally working on something new>uh no I can't show any of it because le evil AI or something>also buy my old games pls
>>736560620>operational systemstake a shower I can smell your rancid cowshit perfume from here
What is steam doing to combat AI flooding?
>>736585842You fell for the Labo meme didn't you?
>>736559640The very first trailer for Silksong spawned countless clones that used mechanics shown off in Silksong, and all released before Silksong.
>>736584210Yeah I think like a month before release is about right
>>736560045I mean
>>736587075He's successful enough to never need to work again. AI is clearly a problem in the indie sphere and he's not the first one to state so.
>>736587153And silksong still sold boatloads despite being tryhard streamer rage bait
>>736559640I don't care about indie hacks.Haven't taken this scene seriously since Phil Fish had his public outburst and Notch got famous off making an Infiniminer clone or the pompous asshole Johnathan Blow pretending that he was more important than he really is. There's nothing good indie devs have contributed to gaming and its sad excuse for claiming gaming isn't dead because the double A development side of things winded down a long time ago.
>>736560045>pixelated, low-quality twitter screenshotYou're no better than a pajeet you retarded normalfag.
>>736587236Still, fuck 3rd world scammers. Make their lives harder in every way you can.
>>736587228>He's successful enough to never need to work againAnd yet terrified someone will steal his brilliant 100% original ideas?>AI is clearly a problem in the indie sphere and he's not the first one to state soYeah we should go back to the good old days of the indie sphere where all games were Mother-likes that were actually about depression or liking dick
>>736587352Artists like their ideas to not be co-opted by a dozen mouthbreathing scam artists, shocker.>yeah we go back to the good old days ofThose days never existed. You didn't live through them. You were never interested in or knowledgeable about the indie sphere, and you definitely aren't familiar with how games were made before 2014 or so.
>>736559640If AI can copy you idea and sell more you're an unfathomable hack
>notsoviet country BAD and sometimes you had to do BAD things because GOVMENT said SOah yes clearly a man of ideas never heard or seen before, totally worth copying
>>736560541>I don't remember any Papers Please or Obra Dinn clones being released before the original.Because genAI basically wasn't a thing back then.Yes, I know some very barebones models may have existed back then, but they weren't as powerful as they're now.
>>736587352>Yeah we should go back to the good old days of the indie sphere where all games were Mother-likes that were actually about depression or liking dickNever happened.
>>736588781YIIK, Omori and Deltarune all coming out around the same time did a number on indie RPGs in general.
>>736587302Ironic most scammers are from first problems.
>>736560045I kneel
>>736560045Holy basedAdd weeb pfp users to the list and the internet would be pure. A man can dream…
>>736559640Sounds like cope for taking too long to make something so you throw Muh AI fears to get some extra time like it's a over due english paper or something.
>>736559640The thing is, ai isn't even that much of an issue here, people "stole" unrecord without using ai.
>>736593501AI just lets you slop something together much faster, so the point at which you can release info is more narrow.
