SOMETHING ON YO' MAIND?
Zerg pucci
>>736560141IN THE PIPE, FIVE BY FIVE
>>736560141>I read ya... """"""""""""""""""siiiir"""""""""""""""""""
>>736561736>orders them to pointlessly die for saying this
>>736561736>I read ya...... SAAR
>>736560141I just now realized he's wearing a bandana, I thought his head was just shaped funny because of the angle.
>>736561918>orders them to die exploding on their own spider-mines hitting dragoons for thisftfy, nothing pointless about it it's just real time strategy
>>736561918You're really paying for the spider mines, the vulture itself is just a bonus
HMM?
>>736560141Is that a nutsack hanging off his face
>>736560141I SNEED YA, “SIR”
>>736560141(OP Here)If Vice Admiral Stukov suspected Duran was an infested Zerg that came to sabotage the UED's mission, why didn't he personally voice his concerns to Admiral DuGalle in private? He instead went rogue and tried to tie things up on his own while DuGalle was completely in the dark. The close personal and professional relationship both men had would have been more than sufficient for Stukov to come forward. DuGalle already voiced his disdain for traitors when Duran showed up and would have been more than willing to initiate some sort of investigation. Instead, DuGalle allows himself to be manipulated and controlled by him, even so far as to agree to Stukov's execution.
>>736562625>why didn't he personally voice his concerns to Admiral DuGalle in private?It's shown thar DuGalle's success in Korpulu, which Duran was a large part of, was making him blind to Stukov's warnings. Keep in mind the UED was already arrogant when first coming in to Korpulu, and at just the second mission they had already crippled the Dominion by destroying or commandeering most of its main fleet.By the time Stukov had fully realized what was going on Duran had already made his move and severed communications to set up Stukov first.
>>736563118In other words, the UED were a bunch of arrogant retards that got played hard.
>>736563197Correct, that's kinda the whole plot of Brood War. Kerrigan played everyone and came out on top.
>>736563318Yeah, it doesn't go very well for the Protoss either. To be fair, Zeratul is like, come on guys, what the fuck are you doing, and they all tell him to stop being so paranoid. Turns out he wasn't paranoid.
>It shall be done.
>>736563437Even Zeratul gor played early on because he put his faith in Raszagal.The Raszagal reveal itself has surprisingly good set-up that starts as early as the second Protoss mission but is really easy to miss.
>>736560141MY WIFE FOR HIRE
Group C has bisu, jaedong, and flashwhat year is this
>>736563458Why is the High Templar, a dark templar?
>>736564739Jaedong is a man of the fans.
>>736564783He needs a light.
>>736564783DEI practices.
>>736564739>no larva gay
>>736563437You mean Aldaris
>SC1 Kerrigan is a ruthless murderer and mastermind who manipulates literally everyone by being two steps ahead and setting the stage perfectly to reign supreme>SC2 Kerrigan is a moustache twirling villain who gets smacked upside the head until she's an annoying cunt who shanks half the sector in a tantrumHATRED
>>736565439SC2's story is gay. Missions are fun though.
>>736564739Flash’s group in both the qualifiers and in the ro24 was really rigged
>>736561936DO NOT REDEEM THE WIDOW MINES
>>736565439I like that Kerrigan basically stops being evil due to the power of love (or Raynor's cock).
>>736565504He was definitely fighting some noobs in the qualifiers.
>threadamusing
>>736566459Still not sure how I feel about what they did with him in 2.
>sending dark archons to try to steal one of the enemy's builders to build my own base of their factionI have to do it every time I canI just can't not
>>736564739Are artosis and tasteless back doing korea time? I remember they got replaced some years back and it basically made me drop off.
>>736564783Because the psychic power corrupts more than being sneaky
>>736566459I always found this guy's portrait to just be derpy. He looks less like a protoss and more like some cartoonish skeleton with a huge nose hole.
>>736560141Vultures suck. There I said it. I would maybe make one or two at most and that was it. Usually none.
>>736568580Protoss are far more muttified than humans and come in way too many shapes and sizes. It makes no sense that one species would have so much variation.
>>736563318So Brood War is Metzen's girlboss fantasy where a big titted sexy bitch dominates everyone? Cool I guess..
>>736563713This shit blew my mind as a kid. Such a shame where they went with it in sc2. I'm not saying sc1 writing was high art or anything but for what it was it nailed space opera intrigue.
>>736569047It's more setting up BW's Zerg portion as a villain campaign. Even while you're playing them there's a sense of absolute dread and darkness in the Zerg campaign, especially after the initial betrayal. You've spent hours playing campaigns with all these characters just to stab them all in the back, all while Kerrigan's unfolds and shows she had planned it all and was setting it up before the Protoss segment even started.
>>736567209They do the English cast on YouTube, obviously live but you can look it up and the past vods
>>736568580I always thought it looked like he had a beard/they were trying to make him look like an elder with it
>>736560141What was his fucking problem?
>>736569609He needs somebody to fix his bike up while they're at it.
>>736569047Nah, SC1 Kerrigan was still fairly monstrous and not as conventionally sexualized as in SC2.
>>736568954Everyone thinks that as a kid. You were supposed to grow up and realize the thing is just absolutely disgustingly broken at some point.
>>736568954I love them because they're so fast. With enough micro, you can snipe AI melee units while kiting them around. You can also bait units into spider mine traps.Blizzard is really missing out on Starcraft spinoff games. Just typing the above message I had an idea of a Mad Max type game in the SC universe where you're driving around in customizable vultures in the Mar Sara deserts.
>>736570764Starcraft revival soon, probably, maybe, possibly.Rumor has they're making a new third-person shooter and people suspect it's a SC game.
>>736562167>Your orders, ((((templar))))?
adun toridas
>>736570863Thank god. Been waiting for something like that for decades. Maybe it's been developed using assets from the canceled Battlefield style project? It's a long shot I know, but unless it has the darker space opera feel of SC1+BW, I'm barely interested. SC2 was too bright and safe for me.https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Ares_(game)
>>736570764>Starcraft spinoff games>tfw no boomer shooter starring a zealot fighting through a zerg horde
>>736563437The thing with the Protoss is that, with the exception of Aldaris, were willing to give Kerrigan the benefit of the doubt due to her at first being under the thrall of the Overmind and later becoming a free agent after Tassadar crashed a psi-overloaded Gantrithor completely killing off the oversized brain.Sadly nobody could see just how hard was Kerrigan infested until it was way too late.
>>736571132>It's a long shot I know, but unless it has the darker space opera feel of SC1+BW, I'm barely interested. SC2 was too bright and safe for me.The Nova campaign oddly had some good ideas and tone to it, felt much closer to SC1's Terran campaign than much of the rest of SC2. I've heard it's the salvaged plot from SC Ghost which I can kinda believe.
>>736571427>Sadly nobody could see just how hard was Kerrigan infested until it was way too late.The biggest thing to me is how Kerrigan doesn't miss a beat between vanilla and BW. When you first get to Shakuras there's already Zerg there, with the implication that they snuck in behind you while you were escaping from Aiur, or Raynor and Fenix lost control of the Gate. Except Raynor and Fenix reach our at the end of the mission and say they're shutting the gate down, and in the next mission it's shown that there's entire Hives of Zerg on Shakuras already getting set up. And while it may be considered an oversight, the Broods present on Shakuras are Orange and Purple, the former of which is Garm Brood (Zasz's) and the latter is the vanilla Cerebrate's Brood, both of which should be mostly dead and/or raging out of control on Char without their respective Cerebrates. Instead they're on Shakuras, and the only one who could have commanded them to get there was Kerrigan, hinting that she took over Raszagal's mind before the Aiur Protoss even arrived on Shakuras.
>>736560141hawk tuah
I don't like how Kerrigan turned into a turbo Mary Sue when Brood War happened.Mindraping the strongest and most important Dark Templar before Kerrigan even set foot on the planet and without anyone even knowing didn't seem cool to me. It just seemed wanky.
comfy bw thread
>>736572827It's kind of odd with the background Xel'Naga lore that exists even before Brood War. Then Brood War reinforces this idea that a Zerg and Protoss hybrid would be the ultimate creation of the Xel'Naga with the Zeratul secret mission. I suppose it's a consequence of the Protoss fundamentally working differently than the Zerg but if that's the direction they went for (I don't even want to get into SC2s nonsense) you would think they would have had Brood War ending in a Zerg infesting a Protoss and that being the Kerrigan figure.
>>736573078>you would think they would have had Brood War ending in a Zerg infesting a Protoss and that being the Kerrigan figure.I meant StarCraft, not Brood War, as in the original campaign. Anyway I guess it's just your typical wanking off us humans.
>>736570863exactly what the world needs, another shooter
>>736569609He knows he'll be sent to die against a wave of speedlots after he's done laying those mines. He's got nothing to gain from sucking up to you.
>>736573702Even worse, he'll probably die to friendly fire from his tanks.
>>736569303I think playing as overmind-aligned zerg was fun and we basically didn't get to do it enough. You are already babying kerrigan by mission 1 in sc. Is it really so hard to write a game where you are an invading force doing your thing? Cerebrates also have personalities so it's not like you'd have zero character or intrapersonal conflict/management issues
>>736571207its like they don't want to print money lol. Instead we get tranny eSports games
>>736569024they're plants dude, plants of the same species can vary wildly in size and shape.
>>736562625Brood War is actually infinitely worse than any other Starcraft story.
>>736573962>Is it really so hard to write a game where you are an invading force doing your thing?Well Blizzard is now owned by Activision, which is just a front for the American Military, so yeah kinda.
>>736564739idks, so 1 of JD/Flash are going to be knocked out no matter what right? Or are my errant hopes of JD v Flash in finals still alive?
>>736574842I think so, if Jaedong and Flash win the group they fight each other in RO8.
>>736574839>SC1 Terran campaign is about how a rebel freedom fighter movement against a corrupt and oppressive government led to an ever more corrupt and oppressive government coming into power>BW Terran Campaign is about an overarching power stepping in to quell the new tyrant and tamper with power beyond their knowledge, only to fall into the trap of arrogance and later be destroyed by their own blind confidence>SC2 Terran campaign is about how the new freedom fighters are totally good guy rebels who go around helping people, and how the evil empire is actually not so bad once you get past their evil leader who you just need to remove so his dubiously moral son can take over in his placeHmmm...
>>736575453God I fucking hate what SC2 did to this series plot.
>>736575610That's not even the best part>SC1 Zerg campaign is about a horrific ancient evil launching a campaign of genocide and invasion, slaughtering untold thousands to sate its own hunger>BW Zerg campaign is about a ruthless psychopath orchestrating and actively taking part in a massacre of every other group around her, for no reason other than to assert her dominance and remove any challenges to her power>SC2 Zerg campaign is about how women have feelings and it's okay if one kills billions of people because their political leader personally slighted her which caused her to become a psionic demigod
>>736575990Kerrigan is the worst fuckign thing that happened to Starcraft as a franchise. She completely fucked the storyline of the series beyond repair in SC2.
>>736576078I'll at least finish with the least offensive>SC Protoss campaign is about overcoming the prejudices of a broken faith in order to unite different peoples and destroy an ancient evil together. Artanis is there and he's a cool dude.>BW Protoss campaign is about preserving the previously established unity and finding a new home, by way of getting two magical nuclear rocks. Artanis is there and he's a cool dude.>SC2 Protoss campaign is about... overcoming the prejudices of a broken faith in order to unite different peoples and destroy an ancient evil together. Artanis is there and he's a cool dude.
>>736576078Worst part is if you cut her out then SC2 is mediocre but not terrible. WoL Raynor works fine if you ignore his drunk pining for Kerrigan, and the Protoss campaign is just their creator Xel'Naga coming back and them curbstomping him back into ground while also helping out the Terrans at the same time. That worthless fucking Kerrigan mary sue nonsense dragged it all down and then ruined the whole game with the epilogue.Fuck whoever it was at Blizzard that wanted a redeemed angelic alien waifu because he ruined one of the best settings Blizzard made in their prime.
>>736564783In case you didn't notice, the Protoss High Council are among the "bad guys" of SC1. Their strict adherence to tradition and refusal to cooperate with the Dark Templar or adapt to the Zerg threat ultimately lead to their downfall and the destruction of Aiur. Casting the HT portrait in shadow is symbolic of that fact that these guys aren't the righteous "good guys" they pretend to be.
>>736576251I don't have any complaints about Artanis.
>>736576251Artanis is the true power of friendship JRPG protagonist of the franchise desu. Raynor is a simp that killed his buddy for some ZERGED pussy.
>>736576392>ascended player character goes on to become a major player in the storyAlways kino.
>>736576439Isn't the Brood War protoss commander Selendis?
>>736576470Don't know, don't care. Artanis is the Executor in StarCraft.
>mario and luigi were finally alone >even though they were brothers, and even though they were plumbers... >they were still lovers
>Mario's massive erection leaked out of his pants and onto the table. Luigi couldn't believe what he was seeing. Yoshi was in the corner laying eggs while Wario was taking a fat shit on top of it.
>>736560141ZERASH COOLIO
>>736576392Alwags kinda funny how he went from a scrawny dude in BW to the absolute muscle-toss he is in SC2. The guy hit the gym hard between games.
>>736576439Come think of it, Artanis is the only player character that sticks around troughout the entire story of SC1, BW and SC2. The terran magistrate of SC1 fucks off somewhere, the Brood War UED commander dies, the Zerg Cerebrates all die. Artanis however, sticks around, as he is the player character of the protoss campaign in SC1, and a hero character in Brood War (whereas Selendis is the player character apparently). Then in SC2 you essentially play as Artanis.
>>736576627It's garbage influence of WoW in blizzard arstyle. They had to make all dudes gigabuff for some reason. I suspect that the same braindead art direction is why they gave protoss women tits despite it making zero sense.
>>736561936WHADDA YOU WANT BLOODY BITCH BASTARD
>>736576694>I suspect that the same braindead art direction is why they gave protoss women tits despite it making zero senseIt's to store water, totally no other reason.
>>736576392>Artanis is the true power of friendship JRPG protagonist of the franchise desuThat was Fenix. Fenix was the bro-est bro to ever bro and deserved better.
>>736569609He was gay
>>736576253Not that anon but honestly even if you completely ignored literally every plot beat in SC2 the game still failed on tone/vibes. Nothing about it is as dark or gritty or moody as the original and its expansion. Im talking things like the art style, lighting, dialogue, etc. Even the sfx! You can hear sc1 marines choking on their blood as they die. Sc2 marines sound like a guy yelling "oh!" After stubbing his toe. SC2 just felt like it took place in an entirely different franchise/universe.
>>736560141>I AIN'T GOT TIME TO *BEEP* AROUNDTo 8 year old me, it was wild that they said this in a game
>Artanis is the only character from SC1 to survive to the end of the SC2>He reached the end of the story, but none of his original friends were there to see it with him
>>736576253IIRC the writer just went through a divorce and still wished he was together with his wife. So the entire story is colored by a lovesick nerd
>SC1 Raynor>I will kill you, Kerrigan>SC2 Raynor>Yes my queen, your pussy is the greatest in the galaxy
>>736576779The fact that she gets away with it and Raynor still simps after her after what happened to poor Fenix is pretty fucking gross ngl
>>736576884Brood War is a really bloody game. I remember it being a little scary as a very young child.
I'm way sadder for the cool ass cerebrates doing a super job and then being backstabbed, can't have more than one singular character as villain after all, would detract from the "human" drama that NEEDS to take center stage in every single game
>>736577117https://youtu.be/KjWRSv8AD9w?t=207It wasn't supposed to be that way.>He died because you betrayed him! How many more noble souls must be sacrificed?!>I'll see you dead for this Kerrigan! For Fenix! And for all the others caught between you and your mad quest for power!>Rest assured, I'm the man who's gonna kill you someday.
>>736563458>>736576306real answer: it looks cool and the protoss weren't space elves yet, they were upjumped space savage tribals and templars were meant to look more like spooky shamans than regal wizards.
Sexlendis
>>736576884The tone shift from this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AL-kScqdr0to whatever garbage this ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPxm00N6w5wis so fucking jarring.
>>736561918>that's it you're going sunkbusting
>>736569609The mines he placed were more valuable than himself
>>736560141>try to play SC2 after so long>game now crashes after 5 minutes regardless of settingsGod damn it, Blizzard
>>736577117This is my only true complaint about SC2. They betrayed the code and made Raynor a bitch.
>>736580489Your only complaint about SC2 is that the story started at all, then.
>>736580618Yes.
>>736580752Based.
>>736580752I kneel.
>In April 2022, it was confirmed that Blizzard was working on an untitled FPS game, with development going back until at least 2019.[7] According to Nick Shpeshal of Xboxera, this game is a continuation of Ares.[8] However, it is unclear if the game is set in the StarCraft universe or not.Blizzard is continuing development of their cancelled FPS Battlefield style game possibly set in the Starcraft universe.In 2016-2019 it was worked on by 50 people and progressed to the point where a player could assume the role of a terran marine and gun down zerg.
>>736582128I don't think modern Blizzard even remembers Starcraft. At this point I think whatever handful of devs were left on the skeleton crew for it probably live in the crawlspace between the offices, stealing from the vending machines to subsist as they tweak numbers on the Melee balance.
I thought WoL was fine, but LotV and HotS felt like bland marvel movies. Just kinda curious: How would you guys rewrite SC2's story?
Blizzard should just release the multiplayer mode from Ghost for free to get people to remember the franchise
>>736563118Wasnt the success due to the Captain(You).I mean you stop Duran in the end and casually take over the Overmind.
SC2 was such a disappointment after 1, but even so I can't help but appreciate it as the last true AAA RTS game, something that can't be done in this day and age. Even without SC1's mood it still had plenty of style and was fun to play. The cinematics are all well done and it had a whole damn album worth of jukebox space country music. Oh yeah, mostly talking about WoL here.
>>736582521>I don't think modern Blizzard even remembers Starcraft.Very very disrespectful. Modern blizz is just too safe, too cautious. They thought their next big thing was eSports, but literally no one cared. Starcraft in Korea was a literal fluke they've never been remotely close to replicating. Besides the narrative trainwreck of SC2 we've gotten nothing since 1999. So many interesting game opportunities within the SC universe. FOR THE HORDE!!!
>>736583529>FOR THE HORDE!!!Oh yeah! For the whitewashed faction that never did anything bad ever and if they did it wasn't their fault and was rogue elements or mind control or whatever bullshit because the players can't handle their faction being the objective bad guys!
>>736582658>How would you guys rewrite SC2's story?Keep the Xel'Naga shit, whatever, even Raynor and Kerrigan having to work together again to deal with it, but the game ends with Raynor killing Kerrigan. That's all I'll accept.
>>736582658>HotSCut the 'Raynor dies but not really' plotlineHave Kerrigan be trying to bounce between wanting to genuinely be a human again while also being tempted to go full Queen of Blades again as Valerian seems keen on turning her into a weapon against Arcturus, seeming more like his father.To his credit, Arcturus starts to crack down more on the Dominion trying to pin down and wipe out Valerian's faction. These crackdowns bleed into attacks on the Protoss and the deployment of more 'experimental' measures, eventually even including Hybrids, as Arcturus grows more unhinged.Eventually Valerian realizes Kerrigan is beginning to slip more into the the Queen of Blades persona, and tries to have her imprisoned, Raynor having convinced him not to outright kill her.Zeratul breaks her out talking about his prophecy and leads her back to the Overmind's corpse, where she reclaims the mantle of Queen of Blades and becomes infested again.She then invades Korhal full bore, which turns into a massacre as she turns the Hybrids back against Arcturus and they go on a rampage. In the end she's standing over Arcturus' corpse as Amon possesses her mind, having picked her as a host.
>>736576251Dude Karax is just a noob turtling redditorAlso them cutting off all their dreadlocks was gay. They are just space humans now. No khala.Selendis / Vorazun were giga based tho.
>>736576990>The rains have ceased, and we have been graced with another beautiful day>But you are not here to see ithttps://youtu.be/cJIgdlFHuv0?si=10kN_hUxLwAorO47
>>736584954>LotVArtanis arrives at Korhal seeking retributiom for the Dominion's attacks only to find it in shambles, with Valerian and Raynor trying to organize an evacuation as the Zerg and Hybrids run amok.The Tal'darim arrive allied to Amon, but Alarak conveniently pulls his punches when ordered to engage the Armada, allowing them to escape.Artanis goes on his little journey to get the Nerazim and Purifiers on his side, with Alarak following the same general plot.After getting back with the Terrans, Zeratul then appears reveals that they need to kill Amon!Kerrigan to banish him permanently. Raynor is naturally pissed off that he saved her just to sacrifice her, at which point Artanis points out what he said after Fenix died, leading to Raynor agreeing to help.The final mission turns into a reverse of Omega, with the Protoss, Raynor's forces, and the Dominion under Valerian assaulting Kerrigan on Korhal. Zerarul and Artanis manage to weaken her, and Raynor finishes her off. Game ends with Valerian and Artanis working out a rough peace, Raynor staying with the New Dominion to keep an eye on Valerian, and a cliffhanger where Zeratul meets Abathur.
>>736582658WoL only needs a few changes. Kerrigan can remain the Overmind's gambit against the Xel'Naga, but turn down the "chosen one shit". There's a slight but important change you'd want to make with Jim. He's not lovelorn at first, he's still wanting revenge for Fenix. He may mourn Kerrigan for who she was before she got infested, but that's it. He believes the artifact will straight up kill Kerrigan, and he only begins to have conflicts after Zeratul's vagueposting and prophecy device. You can also use this as a chance to mend the infamously bad Agria plotline. Hanson doesn't just magic up a cure for infestation, it's in that final mission when the Hyperion's crew learns that the artifact can cleanse zerg infestation rather than just eliminate zerg. The rest of WoL proceeds as usual, Kerrigan gets deloused and Jim shoots Tychus. Heart of the Swarm is completely different. Instead of immediately re-infesting Kerrigan, the Zerg campaign is from the perspective of Amon and co, which is used to flesh out Amon and co and make him more than just dimestore sci-fi Sargeras. Sets the stage for the final confrontation. Includes a terran mini-campaign similar to the Zeratul missions that resolves the Dominion Civil War, Jim and Kerrigan kill Arcturus and Valerian seizes power. Legacy of the Void keeps the Khala mindslave plotline, Zeratul can still die. I'm meh on the Purifier plotline in general, seemed like cheap nostagiabait. Make the Tal'darim opposed to Amon from the word go (don't forget they were working AGAINST Duran's plan of collecting artifacts in WoL) and make them black and teal. During the final mission to BTFO Amon, have the Dominion arrive as well as the protoss to make it feel like a repeat of the battle against the Overmind. No epilogue, leave things open for an SC3.
>>736570863I'll 3D print and download the rules because fuck blizzard. I will never give them another cent.
>>736576639Matt Horner is the Magistrate in SC1Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
>>736586667Well the rules are free at least.
>>736583685FOR THE HORDE!!! (2003)
>>736583725>but the game ends with Raynor killing Kerriganbased. It needed to happen, but the writers were too pussy imo. Mensgks transformation from cunning Machiavellian to cartoon mustache villain was hard to stomach. That scene at the end of the 3rd expansion where Kerrigan enters his office and he's like "You thought you've won? Check this out!" and then pulls out a handheld controller for a psi-tazer was just peak clown writing.
