Why the fuck would you actually side with the Empire in Skyrim?>literally tries to cut your head off because some D E I officer was on her period and decided that you should die>weakens the worship of Talos, their own founder like a good lil kek>lets the Thalmor abduct civilians with repercussionMeanwhile, the Nords die for their own beliefs, have giants in their armies and have unlimited access to Dark Elf and Argonian pussy
As an argonian i say both sides have fun
Because nords are literally the niggers of Tamriel.>invent nothing>quite literally scream till other races give you gibsNo thanks.I'll side with the Empire.
Skyrim should be free but the stormcloaks are the wrong ones to do it
>>736570717The Empire has brought peace, justice and prosperity to all of Tamriel, there is no choice but the Empire.
Ulfric Stormcloak reminds me of my deadbeat dad so I take great pleasure in killing him each time I start a new run of Skyrim
The Stormcloaks did a heckin racism and the Empire are wholesome diverse chungii
This game is made by low IQ people for low IQ people
fuck you Todd with your stupid little mouth
>>736570717Talos' empire.
>>736570717You pick whichever side your character would pick. Fucking sick of these gaymers trying to minmax everything, least of all skyrim
>>736570717>Why the fuck would you actually side with the Empire in Skyrim?Because I'm not retarded?
>Still no mod that lets you slam your dick on the table during Season Unending and tell the Empire and Stormcloaks that you're their new Emperor nowIf I'm really supposed to be the reincarnation of Talos then why can't I fucking act like it
>>736573992that's pretty gay
>>736574052Nothing gay about asserting your dominance anon
>>736573992It'd be cool for both sides to have branching paths as well as an independent one as you said. Imagine Ulfric getting pissy at you for being dragonborn even if you're on his side. Might undermine his own abilities
>>736570717>Nords die for their own beliefsNane one time a stormcuck ever even mentions Shor, let alone pray to him
>>736570717Who the fuck cares the game sucks You need like 10 community fix mods to make it stable enough to play.
>>736572996empire couldnt even handle a few cultists with pink robes nigga
>>736573992Good thing you aren't Talos then you mongaloid
The game is dumb don't know why it's even popular, probably mostly because of coomer mods and because it's played by a billion poojoo coomers
>>736574324It's all but confirmed that the Last Dragonborn is also meant to be the Shezarrine, AKA Talos reborn. And even if that wasn't the case, you being dragonborn at all is still a very solid qualification on its own for being the new Emperor.
It makes too much sense to side with the empire so they just decided to have them attempt to execute you in the opening so you would give the stormcocks a chance.
>>736574550>It's all but confirmed that the Last Dragonborn is also meant to be the Shezarrinezero evidence
>escape with Ralof >explore Skyrim>see the state of Stormcloak holds versus Imperial holds, hear the opinions of what townsfolk have to say about the war>become thane of all nine holds >draw your own conclusion >kill thalmor fuckers regardless since they're about as trustworthy as the nearest hagraven
>>736574571>>736573893>>736572520The circumcised
>>736570717Because the Empire is kino, and nords were savage low IQ apes whose entire culture was warmongering and living in stone huts before they were civilized by Cyrodiils
>>736574885His throne is empty when you go to Soverngarde
>>736575079That's because the LDB is still alive and can't see him
>>736575008Early empire was mostly nords anon...
>>736575008Cuckrace cope
>>736574890>escape with RalofI'd rather kill myself.In fact the Empire was doing me a favor.
>>736575123Then why can the LDB also sit in his throne? With no consequences or reactions from the others in the hall, I might add? Not to mention that Shor gave them all orders to remain in the hall until he returns, and when the LDB arrives that's when three of their mightest warriors leave the hall to help you.
>>736575124Tiber Septim was a Breton and cyrodiil is objectively the most civilized part of Tamriel
"What do you think about the war?">"People are rightly stirred up about the damn Thalmor being allowed to roam around arresting people, just for worshipping Talos. But was it worth tearing Skyrim apart, and maybe destroying the Empire? No, Ulfric will have a lot to answer for in the end. Nords have always supported the Empire, and the Empire has always been good for Skyrim."
>>736575129Learn to read, Nordgroid
>>736570717Because they're right.
>>736570717There's no real uncucked reason to join the stormcloaks unless you play as a Nord. I usually do so it's not a problem, but realistically any other race it makes sense to go for Imps. But at the same time you did almost get beheaded by the Imps, and while it was just protocol and bad luck, it could still cause you to have a grudge, and Stormcloaks not wanting you in their cities, but tolerating you and not wanting you killed could be an acceptable alternative.
>>736570717Because I'm literally any other race than Nord.
>>736570717Nords are faggotsHouse Redoran 4 life
>>736570717one of them should win on their own after you pass a certain point in the main quest, your character has absolutely no historical reason to care about what happens to Skyrim.
>>736575219 >“Nords have always supported the Empire” Yeah, and the Empire has always supported Skyrim by marching legions through it whenever Cyrodiil screws something up.Alvor is a blacksmith in a backwater lumber village. Of course he likes the Empire. Empire means roads get patrolled, commerce flows, iron shipments come in, bandits get bonked. His entire worldview is “please don’t burn my forge down.”Meanwhile:>Thalmor strolling around kidnapping people >Talos technically banned >High King challenged and merked >Legions about to ship half the province south the second Summerset sneezes “Nords have always supported the Empire” yeah because the Empire used to be Nords lmao. Alessia had Nordic backing. Tiber Septim had Nordic legions. The whole thing only works when it’s mutual.Current Empire is a battered punch-drunk boxer pretending a peace treaty they immediately violated is actually a galaxy brain 5D chess move.Alvor’s take isn’t wrong, it’s just small. He’s thinking about Riverwood. Ulfric is thinking about Skyrim. Tullius is thinking about Cyrodiil. The Thalmor are thinking 200 years ahead.And I’m thinking about who tried to cut my head off in the first 5 minutes of the game.
>>736570717>are the good guys in the background for the last 4+ gamesit's obvious why Bethesda had to have them almost execute you. they built-up too much good will over those games. no one would pick stormcloaks if they didn't do something like that.when you realize it, people who picked stormcloaks come off as easily manipulated.
>>736575920>Thalmor strolling around kidnapping peopleAnd that only happened due to Ulfric's chimp out murdering the High King>Talos technically bannedOn paper. It was never enforced and every city and province in Skyrim has a statue to Talos. Enforcement only because of Ulfric.>High King challenged and merkedUlfric used the Voice the second he started to lose. Breaking his vow to the Greybeards a second time. He doesn't give shit about Nord values.>Legions about to ship half the province south the second Summerset sneezesNot if Skyrim is embroiled in a civil war created by a massive retard
Having the Empire try to behead you for the crime being a literal literal-who was a huge mistake by Bethesda. So many people got irreversibly poisoned against the faction for that alone; it fucks completely with the scales of weighing both groups.
>>736576448>Having the Empire try to behead you for the crime being a literal literal-whoThe player is only captured due to them being in close proximity to Ulfric
>>736570717Imperial cucks always come back to the same old argument:>uhh but muh Ulfric is being used to weaken the Empire in Skyrim so the Dominion can come conquer itThe Dominion has already conquered Skyrim using the Empire.>b-b-but if you kill off the Empire out of Skyrim then the Dominion will come in themselves and destroy the Nordslmao no, the Dragonborn fucks the Dominion in the ass. The Dragonborn is the end of the argument. Let's examine what's most logical:>Dragonborn is obviously canonically a Nord dude>Nord dude who's almost executed without cause by the Empire is not going to side with them to subjugate the Nords>even if he wasn't a Nord this would still be the case>Dragonborn invalidates any attempted Aldmeri invasion if the Empire is bootedDragonborn singlehandedly obliterates any attempt at invasion:>master of all magic, able to summon invincible atronachs and spirits of ancient warriors and dragons and spectral assassins, enchant armor and weapons to be invincible and immune to all forms of magic while lifestealing and doing infinite magic and stamina damage, turn invisible at will, create storms of fire ice and lightning>master of stealth and archery, able to instantly stealth kill anyone unnoticed from a distance>master of armor and battle, solely has slaughtered his way through infinite armies of man and beasts and monsters>master of Dragon speech allowing him to summon meteors, ride dragons, become aetherial, drain life, move at super speeds, etc>master of potions and blacksmithing allowing him to create infinite life potions, invulnerable armor, instant death weapons>possibly immortal, has access to alternate dimensions and the same life extension magic as Miraak>allied with warrior werewolves, vampire hunters, wizards, thieves, assassins, etc>owner of a treasure chest of Daedric relics, some of whom are his personal friendsYeah bro enjoy trying to invade the homeland of the most powerful entity in Tamriel.
>>736577273This is why the Dragonborn should become the new Emperor instead of settling for being Ulfric's bitch-boy or a regular-ass imperial soldier.
>>736577273What you're saying relies on "armies" being a group of ten dudes from the pub like it's depicted in the game, and the distance from Solitude to Falkreath being so short you get from one to the other while walking, drunk.In the context of the video game where the player personally kills whatever is on screen, you can probably exterminate every nation in the world in a few weeks, top, assuming those people aren't set to essential.
>>736570717Because I bought Breezehome and adopted two kids, and now I don't want to have to dethrone Balgruuf.
Who founded the empire? Tiber fucking Septim. Who do those stupid fucking Nords worship. Tiber fucking Septim. He was a Breton and fucked a dunmer btw.
>>736572520>t.reddit lorelet secondary
>>736577585The Septum bloodline is dead, and the empire with itThe elves are using a rotting corpse to help them with their retarded death cult
>>736570717The empire is based. Restore the empire, restore talos, drive the dominion in to the sea to get raped to death by dreughs.
>>736573893Retards side with Stormcloaks because "they tried 2 bloody chop me ead off innit"People with an understanding of the lore sided with the Stormcloaks because they're actually the best choice
>>736575079Maybe splitting hairs but Shor/Shezzar is perhaps not exactly = Talos even if he "is" because Talos "mantled his place" and the throne being empty can be just the simple fact that Shor is the "dead god". I'm not debating either way on LDB being a Shezzarine
>>736570717I played as a nord so I sided with the nords, simple as.
>>736575008Atmorans were literally the ones that brought "civilisation" the "native" nedic men, and the several renditions of the early empires (and the "current" Tamrielic one) were basically founded by Nords
>>736574550>>736574885That is not how aspects or incarnates or mantling works in TES. Talos is not strictly a Shezarrine, Talos walked all six walking ways and he is his own thing. But the three individuals that make up Talos were either all Shezarrines or at least one of them was. Talos as a surrogate is ultimately a construct, a tool, which serves a Lorkhanic purpose but evidently does it badly because at the end of the day Hjalti is a bad imperfect individual.There is no need to be Talos reincarnated because Talos is occupying metaphysical niches himself that predate him, Ysmir, 8+1 (missing one) etc.Dragonborn can go through a similar process, but it is extremely long and convoluted of a journey that Hjalti succeeded on through luck and fate.
>>736577273>Dragonborn uses his level 100 Speech to haggle the elf prices down until he just buys the Dominion itself
>>736570717>the Nords die for their own beliefsThey sure will
>>736577735after trying to chop your head off they continue addressing you as "prisoner" even after you've given your name.
I would advise all empiretards to give this a read.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Great_War
>>736570717>Empire winds up dooming itself because it couldn't just practice some basic legal processGrim.
>>736575216the "third" part of the third empire is telling you that its the third empire
It's so fucking weird that the Dominion are introduced and presented as a major villain faction that just has basically zero content and is essentially unresolved in the game entirely
>>736573753Fuck me Todd with your cute little mouth.Lie to me more and make me feel like you care.Sell me another copy of Skyrim.I am your baby boy, I will do what you ask.Tell me TES6 is coming while you are coming.I will believe every word.
>>736578925Because that was the setup for TES6.The same way Akatosh gaining a physical presence in the world was featured in Oblivion, but nothing happened with it until Skyrim.Then TES6 fell through over differences beyween Todd and the last few people at Bethesda that could actually write a game, and Bethesda has been desperately trying to outwardly project everything is business as normal even though they're an empty husk of what once was.
>Imperial or stormcloak? Huh? Neither? Oh so you're a thalmor fag huh?Dwemer.
>>736577626Ingame lore for nords was an afterthought. Their claim to fame was having one of their champions throatfucked by Vivec
Reminder that Talos had an affair with an underage dark elf and forced her to get an abortion.
