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>insane deck
>still lost 90hp to the goatse master even though it had -18 strength
fuck that guy seriously
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gg anons, necrobinder continues to be boring
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ggs
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Played with this seed on Silent asc 7

>double ink blade
>you start double ink blade

Go have fun
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Is there a nigger tierlist for enemies yet?
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>>736575662
bros... I miss my wife so much...
please give her back megacrit...
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3 hours trying hard to get Hellraisers to auto clear battle at A9 Ironclad and lost everytime but I picked up the randomest shit cards possible and cleared it stacking shields with Barricade and Body Slam. This fucking game man
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>>736577431
One day maybe, here's the result for the curious
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>Vakuu plays your first turn for you
Oh no, he just plays all the cards I'd play anyways, what a downside!
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>>736577818
don't pick it if you have x cost cards in your deck
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>>736577818
>anon admits he's as smart as an NPC
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>>736578032
>forgot I had GUARDS! in the deck
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>>736578160
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>vakuu doesn't play created shivs
what a lazy motherfucker. do i gotta do everything myself?
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>just learned I can climb ascensions with custom sealed deck games
Goodbye boring base game and fuck your strikes and defends
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I don't care if people say stars are the only way to play Regent, Forge is fucking fun
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I am so fucking retarded at card games holy shit why did I buy this game it just makes me mad at how incredibly retarded I am
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This was a very funny run
Do people sleep on the prismatic gem? Cards from other classes doesn't seem like that big a downside
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>>736577818
>True grit and demon form are drawn in my starting hand
>The boss is the doorman so he doesn't attack first turn
>Vakuu inmediately exhausts the demon form

Many such cases
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>>736578504
Prismatic gem is a good choice to make as Ironclad whenever you have ashen strike or evil eye, because shivs will give you insane protection/scaling.
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get in
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241234999313/76561198174500842
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>>736578319
Stars isnt the only way to play regent, but you should always find some use for stars beyond fallingstar/meteor shower.
All his gimmicks have stronger cards that require stars, or star cards that fix the flaws
For example, alignment or cloak in forge so you have the energy to spam sword.
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>>736578685
My star synergy is I click on reflect when I see it
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>>736578504
if something was good enough in the first game that it had to be made a boss relic in the second, it's probably very strong
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colorless cards are always better
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>>736578759
prismatic gem is buffed this time around though, it gives extra energy.
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>>736578504
No it's probably the best energy relic
It just drives slowplayers crazy because it fucktuples the amount of potential variables you have to "optimally" consider
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>>736578504
It's really good, you just don't see it often.
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>>736578504
>345 damage
>has 109 block
lol nice game, chuds
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>>736578956
retard
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Luve me free wins. Thank you based Pael.
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>>736576421
shitty deck then, hey?
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>>736579026
you didn't slay the spire
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>>736578997
if you get baited this easily then perhaps it is you who is the retard?
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>>736579243
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Why did you leave?
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>>736579283
you didn't have to confirm your retardation to me but thx
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>>736578641
rehost
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241235924577/76561198174500842
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>>736579320
Connexion had a fart
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>>736579326
epic
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>>736579026
the clone relic is so stupid why does it exist
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Is there a better feeling than winning with a trash deck because you just played well? Saved this fuckass potion for the door for a billion gorillion years while getting trash after trash and still prevailed. Love these type of wins
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Regent is garbage
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I fucking hate this game.
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>kill turtle


ALLAH ACKBAR!!!
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>clad run
>act 1 vs crab boss
>get offered literal dogshit 0 damage 0 powers 0 scaling
>2 debuffs and i cant armor or damage him anymore
very FUN
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defend this dog shit card i dare you
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>>736580643
I'm a stampede chad
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>>736580643
Alright with Stampede and has saved my ass a couple of times against the Queen
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>>736580643
I can't
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>>736580643
Mayhem.
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>>736580893
>41 cards in deck
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ggs
thanks other regent
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>>736580893
>soup
>fur coat
>41 cards
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>>736581190
ggs i could have kept going cause i was infinite,
triple decisions is broken.
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>>736581267
>>fur coat
NO KNICKERS BITCHES
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>>736581190
Infinite decisions, infinite energy from defect cards and infinite sly stuff, the game is healthy!
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>>736580643
If you get it from noew, it will probably carry a lot of act one for a bit, i guess.
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reddit. i am pleased to announce we have done it again
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>>736580643
pretty good support in multiplayer
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>beat A10 on all characters
What now?
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somebody host
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>>736582178
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SjvIiFnNJoj3OAHP9FuBLlF4AQX6U7RJJ8XQUp4OMD4/edit
do challenge runs if you need something to work towards
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>>736582178
Now, you have my permission to talk about Vaaku
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>>736582189
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241240120965/76561199498658249
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>>736576421
>relying on negative strength for anything
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>>736578297
you didn't beat the game
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>>736582348
2/4 we wait you friends :)
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>>736582348
>>736582419
3/4 we wait you :)
yes, YOU, anon
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>>736579442
it's fun
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you should join our multiplayer lobby
it will be fun :)

chuds only, NO NORMIES
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>>736582348
>full
FUCK
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>finally get offered snecko
>no high cost cards in sight
:^)
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I feel queen and collector should trade acts
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>Not taking every card offered
You didn't beat the game.
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>trading Max HP for battle advantages
>weighing the benefits of gaining strength now, or more strength later
>hellraiser being good without just going infinite
>doormaker still a serious challenge
This was a fun run.
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This is the most fun run ive ever attempted. I dont even know how im alive still but Vakuu just one shotted this fool
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>>736577818
They should remake this boon to make Vakuu extremely broken. All cards he plays should have their effects doubled. It would be so much more fun if this nigga cheated. Right now, it's just lame
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>>736580643
stampede or that attack which makes the next attack free
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>>736583264
3/4
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>>736583369
>act 3
>8 relics
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>>736583162
Just had a fun run where everything seemed to just line up perfectly too
I fucking love otsy
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>>736583535
people skipping elites are pussies
i might be hardstuck on a7, but i will never skip elites
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>Cruising through the ascensions, having fun
>A9 Ironclad and Silent
>Die ten times on each before winning
This is bullshit this game was not designed for these numbers this game sucks
>First try A9 with Regent
bruh
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>>736578504
>A3
>0.99
please refrain from posting itt
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>>736580643
Completely shutting down multi-hits is anything but "dog shit"
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>>736583660
Camps are the best node in the game
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>>736583660
>i might be hardstuck on a7
at least you know why you're retarded
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>>736583660
StS2 shifted the power too much from relics to cards, upgrades are now worth too much to path elites
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How come EVERY fucking enemy has scaling? It's such lazy game design...
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>>736583660
I play A10 and still go for them if I think I have a 99% chance of dying. It's just so boring otherwise.
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Just finished a4 on all my characters.
How big a difficulty spike is a5?
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>>736583660
>That's a nice run you have there...
>It would be a shame if you got hard countered by an Elite...
I literally go for elites only if I have no other path or I'm crushing already
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>>736584056
not really but yes, it's like they're afraid of particular infinites
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>>736576421
>35 cards
>insane deck
lmao when will you scrubs learn
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Pael's Tooth seems like the best, no? Especially if I still have strike and defends in my deck
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>>736579442
Because it's fun why do you exist?
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How hard is to beat A10 without skipping card rewards?
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>>736584175
I prefer the energy relic, but I'm always energy starved so...
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How about a new location other than the spire?

How about "The Pit"?
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>>736584175
What, to remove those Strikes and Defends? No, not really. There's no point in trying to make those better. But overall, hard to say without seeing your deck. If you're not aware, Pael's Legion is 2 turns inclusive of the turn you trigger it so it's actually every other turn.
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>>736580643
>15 damage and can save you 10-30 hp
>combos with other cards
It's not the worst, and certainly has situations where it can shine.
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>>736584339
I have the sudden urge to make a "Made in Abyss" mod
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>>736584342
That seems very strong
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>>736584175
My preferred use for Pael's Tooth is if you have cards that need some other combo piece to reach their full potential. That way you can look for synergies while they aren't stuck in your deck in the meantime; hopefully you'll find one and by then you'll have the combo piece back and upgraded.
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>>736584175
>goes to sleep
They couldn't just say "goes on cooldown", or "can only be activated once every other turn"?
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>>736584554
Nope
Good day sir.
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>>736583704
Skill issue
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>>736584554
It's a pet so they wanted to play into that. Maybe they plan to add more pets and it'll be a keyword people will be more familiar with at that point. But yeah, until then, they're just being stupid with that wording.
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>have fun in a run
this game pretty good
>get dogshit rng and shitty cards/relics offered
fuck the retards that made this shitty ass game
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I kinda want more floors
3 is very short, 5 would feel more appropriate, although I can guess how broken it could get once you have two dozens of relics and either an extremely polished small deck or a 50 card monstrosity
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What's funny to me is that the vast majority of enemies get infinite scaling, which makes them canonically more powerful than the characters you play as if you give them enough time. As a matter of fact, if you wait long enough, they should be able to destroy planet busters like fucking Goku.

Shit's fucking retarded. REMOVE THE FUCKING SCALING ON EVERY ENEMY YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
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>>736584386
>beat Ozen
>find you can't actually kill her
>she offers you relic and sends you on your way to the next act
kino
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gg boys
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gg
Orobas saved my fuckin life
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>>736586035
what the fuck is that?
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ggs, I somehow had a regent-ironclad-exhaust deck
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>>736585693
Why doesn't Necro just spam Hang on Pierce Brosnan? Is she stupid?
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>>736586062
my win

>>736586078
yeah I saw you had a wackass deck from demon glass
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>>736585693
>which makes them canonically more powerful than the characters you play as if you give them enough time.
the canon is that your guy is trying to climb the tower for 100s of years and every time he dies that fucking whale resurrects him and wipes his memory.
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is it me or is Clad not as fun to play in StS2
some cards feel good but i'm not really feeling a lot of his shit right now
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How do I pick good cards
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>>736586324
clad has a very similar problem to Regend. Most of his pool is dogtrash so when you get runs where you have only the shitpile of trash offered you end up having a terrible time.
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>>736586364
First couple floors of Act 1 go for damage. Most Act 1 elites and hard pool fights will rape you if you don't have enough damage.
Check to see what boss you're up against. If it's Vantom you want cheap and/or multi-hit attacks. If Soul Fysh anything that lets you exhaust, transform, or discard cards mid-battle is strong. You get the idea. Pick stuff that counters the upcoming boss.
When you're getting closer to Act 2 start looking for good block cards. Act 2 enemies have a habit of shitting out huge damage right from turn 1.
From there you look for stuff that synergizes with the stuff you already have. You're not trying to preplan the "perfect build", you're picking what you need to win the next fight and then working to improve the strength of what you've already got. You also want to pick up some card draw when you get the chance--being able to cycle through your deck faster never hurts.
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>>736586364
You click on them when the game prompts you to pick it
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>>736586324
He has no identity, the only thing he has is exhaust and current exhaust is like sly but way shittier
They also took his weak cards away so he just takes a fuckload of damage and can't cover it with just his relic
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Early kifuda is so good. Especially if you have some source of dex. Getting 3 extra block for playing other cards is huge early. You can really spam it on some stuff like defects 0 costs.
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>>736587027
Unironic trvke. Late it falls of a good bit, but if you get some important shit early and get to stick free Block on it? Goddamn.
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>>736584056
If anything enemies don't scale fast enough
It's incredibly easy to put together a block engine that wins the game at current
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>>736584386
It fits the theme
Kinda...
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>>736587301
with ironclad it's actually really hard
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>imbue reflect with electric shrymp
>oh boy this will be such a big help
>reflect is gained and then instantly wears off for no reason
indeed I pressed F2 right away and sent a scathing bug report for this. at least the block stayed.
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Why are you guys playing early access games? idgi
Why not wait for the finished product? I bet you have a large backlog already
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>>736587572
backlogs are for myanimelist-like redditors
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Hosting beta
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241247444085/76561198043831607
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>>736587706
2/4
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>>736587706
2/4, get in. I'm either hitting random or playing something to cover for everyone else
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>>736587301
post A10 Ironclad winstreak
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At current, I would say that in terms of health, the characters are currently ranked:
>Defect
>Regent
>Necrobinder
>Ironclad
>Silent
Defect is at a sweet spot where he has a lot of strong cards, his themes all work with a myriad of synergies, and he has multiple viable block engines.
Regent on Beta branch is in a very strong and fun state. He has both very strong block and very good damage engines, and his draw is decent. His early game is very interesting and it's possible to get Regent decks that play completely differently with only a few different cards. People also really tend to overstate how bad Forge is, Forge is actually in a pretty decent state all things considered and can be relied on as a scaling solution. The main problem with Regent at current is that card creation is a bit of a dead end
Necrobinder is in a decent state right now but she has two major problems. 1: Her start deck is too strong. Unleash simply shouldn't be a basic card. 2. Contrary to what some in this thread would tell you, doom is really fucking strong, perhaps too much so. It's super easy for any Necrobinded deck to just add a Deathbringer or No Escape and suddenly they outscale every boss
Ironclad is in a complicated spot. He's stronger than many in these threads will tell you. Having so many exhaust sources will always be strong. Vulnerable has insane pay offs. Self Damage moves extremely fast once you get rupture or inferno. The issue is, Ironclad is typically forced in to feast or famine decks. The only reliable block strategy Ironclad has is just play shrug/blood wal/true grit. His other best defensive cards are locked away as rares that require specific synergies. He also has no life gain cards to balance out the costs of his self damage cards, which compounds on his pre existing block issues. There also the issue that Ironclad's card pool has a lot of chaff at all rarities at this moment
Silent is too fucking strong and they made her stronger.
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What's best for Defect?
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>>736588334
Silent has the most consistent cards, I always pick her
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>>736588334
In a vacuum typically it's silent > clad > necro
Silent will usually have the most quality cards on average, Ironclad can have some bricks but also has some decent cards, and necrobinder can give you bricked osty cards
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>>736582178
Do it again but in multiplayer
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>>736588334
clad is shit and necro is too situational, silent cards go well with everyone
pick necro anyway because the defect needs a friend
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>a bunch of good powers+some claw and momentum or whatever that one card is.
>soup that makes strikes cost 0
>get feral and all for one

finally the game isnt gay and I can have fun.
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>>736588674
A enchanted strike is worse than literally every defect 0 cost except like upgraded zap
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All iterations of doormaker are pure cancer except for the first, in which he's a complete pushover.
Apologize to time eater NOW
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wtf my game crashed
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>>736588842
Rehosting
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241249186341/76561198043831607
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>>736588865
This is going pretty well. The debuff spread goes insane into our comp

>>736588842
GET INNNNNNN
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0/50 so far on A10 Regent
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can YOU defeat doormaker in 4 turns?
probably not because youre not as good at slay the spire 2 as I am.

>>736588782
its free 6 damage so you can recall the free 6 damage to do more free 6 damage while you draw 2 to get more free 6 damage cards while you apply vulnerable, for free and get free energy so you can cycle to the start of your deck to get more free damage, for free. Extremely based desu
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>>736588907
I'm just trying to pick up more exhaust shit on Ironchad man. Starting with Pact's End means I have to
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>>736588934
You've got this bro. I believe in the dream.
I was really torn up between Eradicate and End of Days, but felt like Doom was the safer strat for rn. Driftwood is really helping me find my shit, too.
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i said 4 but I meant 10. It felt like 4 turns because im so good at the game but youre not you suck at slay the spire 2
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>>736588865
rejoin other regent
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>>736588961
Yeah I got Driftwood too. No good Skill to Imbue this run except maybe Arma+ which might have been nice but a bit risky. Didn't want to get Break either because this isn't a vuln run. So far I did get Burning Pact+ though I do still need to upgrade Havoc, Pommel Strike, maybe Second Wind, and definitely Pact's End too

>>736588992
He doesn't seem to be coming back?
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>>736588926
>its free 6 damage so you can recall the free 6 damage
Or I could play beam cell and scale my damage or I could play go for the eyes and scale my block or I could play helix drill and deal 30 damage or I could play FTL and draw cards or I could scale my claws or I could play turbo and overclock and go off or I generate block or pop my darkness orbs with dual cast
There are many things I would rather do than spend my boss relic on making my strikes cost 0
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>>736589106
Usually I'd have taken Protector, but it's definitely not an osty run for me either. Also yeah, doesn't seem like bro's coming back. Fucking shame.
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>>736589185
FRESH LOBBY
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241249614241/76561198043831607
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>>736589228
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>>736589228
>full
Ok how does one make one of these links?
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>>736589976
>host game
>shift+tab
>go to steam profile
>right-click the "join game" button
>copy address
But I also want to play so let's go
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241251302499/76561198030802028
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God I hate Necro. I've had like half a dozen runs that just don't have the momentum to finish up. I thought the wider variety for builds would make it more fun but it just feels like more fluff to stop me getting whatever keypiece my build needs to not be lackluster
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>>736590445
Sorry to the incel who joined I got hungry and left for foods
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Can you multiplayer faggots fuck off back to trannycord and stop shitting up the threads?
Ydbtg
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>>736578815
They are better than any card separately but they are worse at synergies which will be your endgame(except golden age I guess)
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>>736588926
>4 turns
>says turn 10
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>>736582707
Sneko is much worse in slay the spire 2 because defect, silent, and necromancer all love their 0 cost cards
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>>736584106
It's all cosmetic until a8 where you notice it, then its a spike in a9
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>>736584175
I usually take paels tooth and then use equally on cards I love that needs upgrading and on non essential cards so I dont die without my best cards, never on strikes and defends, I plan to get rid of them
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>>736584106
All ascencions are piss easy.
From A9 onward every act turns into a goblin rape cave
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>>736586324
I really struggled on ironclad at first, you have to desperately search for block like you desperately search for damage on silent, then some bullshit will come your way like good exhaust cards, stumpede, free mana+draw, etc.
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>>736588334
I take silent because she has draw which is really good with defects mana generation
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Ascension 9 is such a huge jump up in difficulty. Haven't managed to win a single time since getting every character there
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>>736589976
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GGs boys.
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ggs thank you for the heals and block
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GG
I'm starting to realize that in multiplayer, Doom is not good because of inflated HP values. You NEED No Escape as your pseudo-Catalyst for Doom or else it'll never get anywhere except like 150 HP maybe. No, in multiplayer Doom is the enabler you need for memes instead. For example, abusing Shroud with Neurosurge and Death's Door. Here in this run? A Doom run I wanted to go for instead became discovering the synergy of double Danse Macabre and Borrowed Time+
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GG
Spent the whole run waiting to get a big vuln-stacking payoff like Dominate or Bully. Didn't see either a single time, but I did get two copies of Cruelty and an insane block engine that led to an 868 damage Body Slam at the end
Funny how that works
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>>736591731
Oh so THAT'S what killed it all of a sudden. Damn, crazy.

>>736591637
Np bro. Portable tent is just a crazy fucking relic, gotta keep the boys topped up
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A1 n chill?
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241251565557/76561198094567415
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>>736591796
Too bad I was the one who got the Shovel when I barely used it that run and the relics it gave me barely helped me either. I should have just ignored it and stuck to upgrading whatever
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>>736591827
joining.
I want to try some stupid shit, hope you guys don't mind
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>>736591827
>>736591903
2/4
Might embark with 3
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>bought Miniature Tent relic
>still only have 2 options at rest site

uh, did I get bamboozled?
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>>736592062
Anon...
Click your options
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>cook
>clone
Have fun with these while you can, no shot they are making it to the full release.
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>>736592119
oh shit you’re right, this thing's fucking bonkers
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The bosses are scared of him, not the other way around
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>claw my way back from the grave on an absolutely fucking AWFUL Silent run where all I could do was block
>make it to queen
>play skill potion on the turn that abrasive is in my hand
>gives me a discard card, perfect
>forget how bound sly cards work
>play deflect before I discard my hand, locks me out of playing abrasive
>barely die
I'm mad
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I like that it shows if you dupe Sovereign Blade
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>>736592786
is forge good now?
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>get the doornigger to doom range while hes on his escape turn
>he escapes into the alternate form instead of dying
>die to Doom since Vakuu played the power that dooms you every turn on the first turn
Fuck you Vakuu
Fuck you doornigger
Bullshit I won that run
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When's the next patch, they are for sure changing the door again
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Megacrit, where the fuck are Clad buffs…
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>>736592934
no, it was a meme sneko run
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>>736593074
>Cinder now exhausts 2 random cards instead of 1
ur welcum
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>>736591827
GG
thank you for all the mends
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I gotta be honest brehs
I like big, retarded, bloated decks
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>>736593785
looks like our defect is the only sensible person here lol
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is multiplayer way fucking harder or what
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>>736593829
no. it's WAY easier.
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>>736593829
No it's way easier.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241255945885/76561198030802028
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>>736593828
<random garbled lines>, my nigga.
Love when snecko enables the dumbest decks.
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>>736593868
2/4
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>>736593868
3/4
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>>736593829
Duo is way harder since enemy buffs scale 3x so shit like artifact or Vantom can absolutely ruin your day while you struggle to clear damage checks due to hp scaling.
3-4 is way easier since there's alot more synergy going on. The enemy is permadebuffed. And there's a high chance that at least one of you gets a stupid strong deck going to carry everyone else. Multiplayer only cards are also way stronger.
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Damage Necro is probably the best archetype now, lots of damage, energy, and block. Souls fell off so fucking hard. Doom was also affected by the Souls crash baka.

Fiddle is a pretty good boss relic desu
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>>736594370
is that how it works? I've been playing duo with a friend and a10 is a struggle while both of us best a10 solo already
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>>736594492
yeah, with most character combinations and playstyles duos a10 is the hardest thing right now.
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>play multiplayer with friends
>one guy insists on powermaxxing literally every single run, so he's just taking 20+ unblocked damage in regular encounters while doing no damage output for 2+ turns
It's fine in 3-4 player multiplayer, but in 2 player I want to blow my head off
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I picked GUARDS! over blade hits twice despite having some forge cards already, did I brick my deck?
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I’d like more people to upload their runs to sts2 fun and breakdown by ascension but even like this Ive noticed a pattern among worst performing duo combinations
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>>736594476
Ethereal was always my favorite archetype. Second most fun deck for me is sleight+debuffs, including the power that applies doom every turn
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>>736595235
And having silent or necro in team is mandatory
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Necro floats, how does the bridge affect her?
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>>736595235
Defect applies almost no debuffs so it's not surprising. Especially considering that -strength has 2x value in duo.
ironclad regent just lacks consistent weak source and regent doesn't really benefit from clad's vuln all that much.
>>736595495
>Silent
Flanking OP, Piercing Wail OP, Expose OP, Weak OP
>Necrobinder
Enfeebling Touch OP, Debilitate OP
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>>736595607
They really need to make mangle 2 cost
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gg
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>>736593868
gg
those paths in Act3 are all cruel. glad me made it
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>>736595923
>>736595948
Wew lads, thanks for the clutch heal. Had super thin soul deck and got absolutely penetrated by the knight guy. GG
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>>736595948
nu-repto wouldve tore us a new one i think
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Is A9 or A10 too much for MP lobbies?
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>>736596280
No, it's easier than SP
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>>736596337
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241259903658/76561197964728969

Here's a lobby then, beta branch
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>>736596357
2/4
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>>736596357
3/4
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>>736596568
still one slot if you are up for some spire slaying
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>>736596695
go as 3 at :45 I guess?
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>>736596724
Sorry would have joined but need to work
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>>736594476
If you get any decent block synergy you can very comfortably play Scourge+ once or twice, then spam No Escape and get away with the game. I even managed to kill the decimellipede with doom the other day (powered by an early Misery pick). All the "when X, gain block" powers of necro are so much better than they look, they're so good.
Fiddle is great on decks with high impact cards and poor draw. Necro can get away wiht it more often by abusing graveblast. The reason why it's sometimes iffy on necro is that it completely fucks you over if you picked any souls cards on the way up since they add curses to your deck now. You will most likely always pick spare Grave Wardens on your way up to act 1 because they're generically strong even without souls synergies and they enshittify with fiddle.
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shiv build vs spam your deck every attack elite

Very nice, I love getting hard countered and check'd before the fight even starts
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>>736596940
Next time power up your ships before using them and use your potions, I would just savescum
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>>736597059
"just wait a few turns" is obviously not something that I can just afford to do against an enemy that deals 28 dmg every turn. It was just a hard counter that I could do nothing against.

>savecumming
gross
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>>736584174
You go and beat Doormaker with a small deck
>Playing cards on phase 1 can brick your strategy
>Phase 2 is heavily RNG reliant
>Phase 3 shutdowns any combo outside 0 cost cards
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>>736597136
Well enjoy skipping your turn then
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>>736596940
GET COUNTERED
GET COUNTERED
GET COUNTERED
but really bee guy need to be toned down in anti-attack hate, the fact that he gives card INTO YOUR DECK and that it’s PER HIT and not attack played is retarded
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Community stats are very interesting to see.
Insane average winrate boost when picking the pollinous core opposed to the gold.
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>>736596940
Is it always 2 dazed per attack? I feels like its sometime 1, sometimes 2, genuinely cant remember
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>>736597303
Drawing is one of the best thing you can do
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>>736597372
NTA. The number of Dazed increases every 2-3 turns iirc, its buff action is strength + buffing the Personal Hive passive
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>>736597372
his buff tells exactly how many dazes it is at any point in the fight and it scales with time
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>>736597372
it starts at 1 and after a couple of turns, he buffs himself so you'll get 2 stacks
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>>736597372
He powers up on 3rd turn to 2 dazes
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>>736597301
Per attack played still hard counter shiv. It's just a dumb hard counter mechanic

>>736597372
it's one first then it gets to 2
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>>736597303
Rejectbros...
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>>736597372
He gains more the longer the fight lasts, the trick is to try to either built up a massive onehit finisher or burst him down quickly.
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>>736596940
You have 2 strength potions, he'd probably be dead already if you had used them at the start.
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>>736597512
You're terrible at math
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>>736583483
vakuu should make the best possible play just like the real whispering earring
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>>736578759
it's the opposite, prismatic gen was bad enough that it was made into the downside of an energy relic.
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>>736597525
Dude is at half life. If you used your potions, you could've doubled your shiv damage and probably could've killed
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>>736597512
A shiv is 4 damage, an extra 4 damage doubles it.
You still have a shiv in hand, also pen nib would deal even more damage from the extra strength.
Also even without hindsight, you know this guy will fuck you with your shiv built so you should've used everything at your disposal.
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>>736597624
It's grade school math anon, 69 health means it would have required 18 attacks with those +4 dmg to kill it and obviously 18 attacks didn't happen in 2 fucking turns
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>>736597607
Prism wasn't on average a downside but mostly neutral. The issue with the prism on StS1 is that it was a shop relic and spending 168 gold on not moving the needle was not worth your money when you could be buying the smoothstone next to it.
Here it has an energy tacked on top on an energy hungry game. Easy click.
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This games fanbase is so weird, you people will sexualize literally anything
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>>736597696
Post your seed and run recap, I want to take a shot at it.
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Why the fuck is this game so hard?
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>>736597761
> This games fanbase
Any game not like this?
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>>736597941
Farming simulator?
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>>736597879
lil bro...
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>>736596873
No Escape kinda wants replay on it imo. It's not very fast at all.

I started the run with Severance which becomes useless because of Fiddle but thanks to my x2 Danse it just becomes +8 block +12 damage instead lol. It's pretty amazing to see how much Danse has improved as a card.
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>>736597879
Common Ironclad L
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>>736596357
game crash
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>>736596357
uh.. gg?
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>>736598571
>>736598608

it is what it is, thanks for carrying my zero dmg regent

where's my fucking comet or stardust
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8x piercing does feel pretty impactful
gg
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>>736598631
you saved me like 50+ HP damage across the run. well played.
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>>736598629
im still waiting on my soul generating cards,
dunno how that happens sometimes.
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Oooo... I'm gonna path... I'M PATHIIIING
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>>736599575
I think that's a suboptimal path anon.
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>>736599626
say it to my 99% winrate on a11 bozo
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>>736599536
>he hatched the egg
Oh no no no no
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>>736599575
>golden compas???
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>>736599536
Why didn't you eat the egg
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>>736599748
what or whos a golden compass
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>>736599575
How did you make your lines so straight?
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Wait the copies that clone makes ALSO have clone? I'd been assuming that they didn't all this time because of how fucking stupid that would be and just thought you guys were pulling off some other trick to get 128 Big Bangs or whatever.
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>>736599789
I needed damage
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>>736599820
paint, the first picture wasnt mine
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>>736599789
I coloured it in btw
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>>736596940
Use your potions. This isn't ffvii were you have megalixirs left at the final boss
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>get into act 2
>take 10+ damage per combat
>die
I really need to stop doing that.
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>>736597136
savescumming is the #1 way of improving since it allows you to examine fights from all angles
when you start streaking later on you dont do it, of course
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>>736600065
Holy cope
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>>736600083
cope for what? you are a1 and complaining about losing with potions left
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>>736600065
>when you start streaking later on you dont do it, of course
Nigga there's people in here using the upgrade bug on all their key cards while leaving strikes and defends un-upgraded to appear legit then bragging about their A10 runs.
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>>736600136
I'm complaining about the design not about losing, coping cheater
Imaging needed to cheat in a solo game this simple. Jesus.
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>>736596940
What did the map look like? Could you have avoided all elites? Because shiv decks should avoid all elites in act 2 purely because that guy exists. Same reason doom Necro should avoid them too because the millipede somehow becomes even gayer.
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>>736600187
are you just ragebaiting here? i feel like you are ragebaiting
anything before a10 is a learning experience, doesnt matter at all
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>>736596940
>>736600214
Oh and also, beenigga is a good reason why Accuracy is such an important pickup for shiv decks since it means you don't have to hit him as many times.
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>>736600238
>more cope
ok lol
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We have creative AI at home
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>>736600331
lets hope you dont abandon the game before the game starts, mr mlg
how long have you been on a1 btw?
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Never played a deckbuilder roguelite before, but I'm curious since it seems like we get about a dozen of these games released every week.
I know that Slay the Spire 1 is considered the genre godfather, but should I start with that or should I just skip it and play Slay the Spire 2?
How easy or hard are these games for someone whose only experience in playing cards is playing solitaire during computer classes in school like 20 years ago?
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>>736600393
AI slop
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>>736600083
He’s right, replaying a fight to understand what you did wrong is literally how people improve you retarded gorilla
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>>736600564
There’s no point in play sts 1 since sts 2 is improving upon the formula(besides few absolute retarded decision changes to Ironclad cards)
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>>736600578
kek, you aren't people if you need to savescum in that game.
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Bird eaters are in shambles right now
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>>736600564
id say start with sts1 since its a fully fleshed out product
the early difficulties are very forgiving and allow you to familiarize yourself with the mechanics
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>>736600578
There's no way I could have done something wrong. It's the games fault not mine
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>>736600645
>A1
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do you have to git gud before jumping into multiplayer?
I still can’t even beat level A5 yet
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>>736600690
Yeah let me play a10 on my third game real quick
Could you possibly more pathetic lmao
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>>736600709
multiplayer scales to your ascension
join any lobby and go nuts
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>>736600742
it took you more than one try for a1, thats all i need to know
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>>736600709
You can play as sissy and build your deck around debuffing and giving other players energy or block or double damage
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>>736588334
green statue looks like george floyd
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>>736600761
lol ok cheater
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>>736600578
That would involve thinking and that's impossible
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>>736600771
I can't greed
>>736600819
You know back in the day games would include cheat codes
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>>736600393
White noise is a snap pick for me, there is no other card that can compete with it for me in terms how much fun it brings
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>>736600819
man i will miss these times once all the tourists have moved on from sts
non-stop entertaining meltdowns
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>>736601010
>said the guy having a meltdown over being replied "gross" to his savescumming suggestion
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>>736600972
>0 energy Echo Form
Guess I win this one.
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>>736601086
keep it coming, i have a few more minutes to kill
if you want to really crack me up you should post the deck from that screenshot
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>A9 Entomancer as Silent
The fun is over. I cannot believe the difference between rape bees, rape millipede, and the free win triangle.
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>>736601146
I don't think you're fooling anyone after that long post streak of trying to justifying cheating when literally no one asked lol
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>>736601153
i feel like the triangle is going to end up with book of stabbing tier damage
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>>736601153
Want to know how to kill Bee Man? Snakebite
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>>736601187
so you already know the deck sucked, got it
multiple people defended early ascension savescumming, is it some kinda conspiracy against you?
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>>736601191
I wouldn't be surprised, but every time I'm forced to take an act 2 elite I just roll the dice for my 1/3 chance of a freebie.
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>>736601238
yikes
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>>736601187
NTA, but you're ass. Savescumming to figure out how different lines play out is an easy way to improve, makes you think of manipulating draw order more etc
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>>736601274
he said the reddit word, how will i recover?
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>>736601286
>he said to reassure himself for the xth time
>while no one asked
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>>736601340
you do know theres a post timer on here? are you as bad at 4chan as sts?
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>>736601340
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>>736601153
At least if you have abrasive or any thorns source you can kill beeman with it
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>>736601442
beeman kinda feels like reserve nob to me and i think thats kinda based
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>>736601413
>>736601378
>They think I called them samefags
God damn you're not helping your case of being retards lol

Literally no one gives a shit about your justifications for cheating in a solo game.
Stop spamming your unsolicited copes, no one cares.
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>>736601505
you're the one dying on a1 as the more overpowered character in the game
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>>736601505
alright, post the deck now
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>Savescum and use the upgrade bug
>Brag about your A10 wins for (You)s and internet clout
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>>736601580
>now claims its about a10 and defending the upgrade bug
you do know that the posts are still up, right?
just post your deck, it cant be THAT bad
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havent played the first one but picked up 2 cause a buddy wants to play co-op
how do i git gud? done a couple runs with ironclad and silent each and keep getting shit on in act 3(elites/end boss) which i assume is mostly a failure at deckbuilding, i'm picking up that i should be wanting to keep my deck on the smaller side
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Exhaust is fucking stupid
>picked up a copy of ashen strike early because one of my starter cards transformed into havoc
>had no other exhaust for all of act 1
>picked up corruption+ at the beginning of act 2
>instant gg
I think this is the fastest I've ever killed queen, especially just ignoring the minion
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>>736601672
>i should be wanting to keep my deck on the smaller side
dont plan long term too much, keep your eye on the win condition but always look at the next fights up ahead and what you can do to avoid damage on those
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>>736601672
> i'm picking up that i should be wanting to keep my deck on the smaller side
You want deck to have coherent game plan with one or more win cons. Bigger deck are not a problem if you pick enough draw
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>>736601672
>i'm picking up that i should be wanting to keep my deck on the smaller side
Yesno. If you've played any game involving a deck of cards before you'll get that smaller decks are more consistent, but having a bigger actually serves as protection against the dud cards that enemies put in your deck so there's no real answer as to whether you should have a small or big deck.
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>>736601580
I do it all the time and then give bad advice to people struggling on this game
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>>736602003
No, (you) are still on A1
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>>736601672
Small decks just help with consistency, but I feel like it's slightly less important in 2. Not that the game is easier just that you come across draw more readily imo
So fat decks are more tolerable. Plus, as the other guy said, so many fuckers drop status now.
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>>736600647
>Was on a 15+ loss streak trying to A10 Necrobinder
>Get a run where I can safely hatch the bird
>Smooth ride the rest of the run
It's that easy
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>>736601759
>>736601772
>>736601775
gotcha, what would be some good combos/things to aim for with ironclad? i was doing well with thrash/bludgeon but it felt kinda unreliable if i didnt get it started early especially against bigger enemies
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>>736602265
You can reliably go for exhaust package and Perfected Strike(with hellraiser even for example)
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>>736602265
just keep on trying out things, its hard to recommend stuff because its easy to fall into the trap of trying to force certain archetypes
for early act 1 a decent single target damage card and some kind of answer to the aoe problem is always good
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>>736602265
Just pick good cards and something generally pops out. Learn what cards upgrade to because not all upgrades were made equal. Armaments is a personal favourite of mine, and Battle Trance is basically a slam dunk. True Grit is also an exceptional upgrade. When you upgrade cards it's good to increase numbers that aren't damage or block. Your starting Bash for example is a solid upgrade because that extra turn of vulnerable can lead to a lot of extra free damage.

https://sts2.untapped.gg/en/tier-list/cards/ironclad

This isn't beta but scroll and compare upgrades to non-upgrades, you'll see that some are waaay better like Body Slam going from 1 energy to 0 energy. That's like having an extra energy on the turn you draw it.
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>>736602401
you can also just right click a card and check the upgrade option ingame
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>>736602265
Also Bloodletting, Battle Trance and Offering are always good cards to pick up no matter what you’re doing
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>>736602437
I mean sure but if he's already on 4chan it's easier to do it through a browser tab.
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>>736594476
saw this post and decided to try picking Necro unga bunga cards since I got lucky with early Demesne & Lethality
unexpectedly a fun run
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>>736602469
Demesne my beloved.
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>>736602456
i see the point, just thought id throw it in in case he didnt know already
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>>736602469
Lethality is an insane card. I try to get 2 every run.
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>>736602528
>Bury+
>+50% damage enchant
>Vulnerable
>Lethality
Yeah, it's gaming time.
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>>736602371
>>736602378
>>736602401
>>736602438
appreciate the help fellas
i saw battle trance a few times but i was feeling i didnt have enough consistent damage so i skipped it, but will give it a try
will keep banging my head against the wall until things make sense
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>>736602562
Forgot Debilitate
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>>736602593
Do eet, fagget. That's a guaranteed win.
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>>736602571
>will keep banging my head against the wall until things make sense
thats the spirit, sts really is more about the overall knowledge you collect in your mind
while were at it, its a good rule of thumb to plan your deck for the worst instead of best possible turn
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>>736602616
Forgot Gigantification Potion
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>>736602593
If you're GAY you won't do it.
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What was the thought process behind Hunter Killer?
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>>736602834
>"Hmmm elites do like 25 damage a turn so lets make him only do 21 to compensate for his debuff"
>"But he isn't an elite!"
>"Larry who the FUCK asked you???"
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>>736602834
Fuck Silent
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>>736602834
punish card spam decks
the real questions is why he doesnt have triangle mans elite spot
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>>736602834
they heard Silent was dodging bees so they put an elite in her normals
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I managed to lose to Dog+Queen despite having 100+ HP. Looks like I have no idea how to block on Regent.
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>>736602880
I don't even know what dorito's niche is supposed to be. Slightly overtuned but you get an extra energy to fight him I guess? Yawn.
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>>736602910
But at least you got aura and hype moments.
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A10 left for Regent. I'm attributing this win to me deciding not to take elite fights (especially on act 2) cause my deck was already good enough to beat the boss and getting more relic wasn't necessarily gonna make my deck much much stronger.
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I fucking hate this nigger. Never beat him in A9 or above he just kills me with 30HP left.
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>>736602913
I think the idea is that it's supposed to be blocking a lot so that you'd have to figure out if you can break through the guard to get the extra energy or not, but its numbers are very undertuned.
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>>736602983
2/4
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>>736602997
I don't what they should do about current elites. Everyone's dodging them because the juice isn't worth the squeeze, but does that mean they should nerf some of them? or even if they add say an extra card drop, does that equal the -35 HP + tip?
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>>736602913
Punish poison/doom spammers by balancing him around attack decks having +1 energy
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>>736603050
>Added a new potion that always drops from elites:
Upgrade Potion - Permanently upgrades a random card in your deck when consumed
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Why is Act 1 so fucking hard on A9/10?

I feel like as long as I can survive Act 1, my winrate pretty much skyrockets.
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>>736603146
Yes, act 1 elites are stupid, we know.
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>>736603050
Card reward guaranteed uncommon having only uncommons and rares with higher chance of being upgraded
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>>736603176
This would be my approach, yeah
getting commons after an elite is such shit
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>>736603173
>>736603146
even the question mark events are less positive this time around
and some normal encounters are just insufferable

even the fucking very first shrinking beetle can utterly fuck you as a first encounter
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>>736603283
I've only been fucked by the beetle as Regent tbhdesu. I usually play Defect so am largely unaffected by him.
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>>736603283
My favorite is two slugs on the underdock as a floor 1 encounter.
A bad draw order and attack startup roll means you can potentially eat 15-16 damage multiple times on the fight.
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>mushroom that summons encounter
>boat encounter
>smoke nigga encounter
>constrict encounter
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>736603446
>>smoke nigga encounter
Make this cuck an elite already.
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>deck based on skills
>steamrolling everything
>get test subject as act3 boss
>cannot do shit without giving him +90 strength
yeah ok, thanks for invalidating 2 acts of deck building
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>>736603501
Just lower the explosion damage to 6 from 8.
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>>736603501
anti-power nigga from act 3 should be an elite. Dude's health is unreal.
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>take half my HP on the act 3 boss setting up Reaper+ with replay
>proceed to burn through the rest of the fight without taking any damage
I'm beginning to understand the concept of playing the fight, not the turn
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>>736603446
>mushroom that summons
Trivially easy
>mushroom that hovers behind another enemy
>constrict encounter
End of the line
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Man I love Status Defect
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>>736603283
Fun fact, Hunter killer is closer to act3 elites in damage dealt than act 3 elites are to millipede and bygone effigy
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Abrasive is basically an S tier card for the amount of fights it can solve for you and it's literally 0 cost in most Silent decks. Such a huge glow up Caltrops have in this game. Can't wait for the fullart.
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>>736603630
This won't factor in that Hunter Killer actively makes it harder to block his damage, meaning his effective damage is actually higher than that.
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>>736603146
It's the opposite for me. Act 1 is manageable with obvious solutions for each boss and elite, Act 2 really, hard, the Act 3 double boss almost impossible. I only survived both of them once
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>>736603501
>hurr just take literally ANY AOE to solve
>card pool is so bloated chances are you won't see half of the commons throughout the entire run
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>>736603809
I haven't seen Glacier in so long I'd forgotten it was still in the game.
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>>736603715
It’s average damage taken. Hunter killer is a bit skewed because there are decks with high front load damage that absolutely shit on him with free turn he gives them that pull average damage way down
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Playing random only, I’ve gotten all chars to 5-9A, but man now I’m on a 12game loss streak and am starting to feel discouraged. Definitely could’ve won some of those though, if I didn’t make obvious mistakes. Should play slower.
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O KEEP RUINING MY RUNS GOING FOR ELITES ARGHHHH I JUST CAN'T HELP IT
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turns out 1000 hours of knowledge and muscle memory is hard to overwrite, Im still playing like its sts1 and getting rolled for being a greedy cunt
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>>736603628
The insidious draw order kills me yet again
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>>736604474
>Almost dead and the boss is basically full health
Uhhh anon? Your campfire?
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>>736604535
There are two bosses on A10
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>>736604578
>66% chance of fighting Goatse
How fun.
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>>736604040
Think about all the upgrading you will be able to do if you avoid the elite
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Is the golden path worth it? It better be worth it for me to pass on 5 free upgrades
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>5 cards left.
Man, new Doormaker is kinda nuts.
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>>736604674
If you have cards worth upgrading I'd take that instead. I only take path if the other options are complete shit (which happens a lot because that bitch is the worst ancient in the game).
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>>736604674
largely depends on map
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>>736604674
Nah, get the upgrades, look up how it looks, its not spectacular
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>>736604674
It depends, 4 targeted upgrades is really good, but if all your paths suck then I wouldn't hesitate to slam Golden Compass. It gives you one extra free chest, so that's always something to consider
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>>736604674
If you have 4 cards you need to upgrade it's honestly a complete no-brainer. One of the best upgrades when it's good.
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i'm going to confess
the game is way more fun when you abuse the exploit that lets you select multiple cards for neow
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>>736604718
>>736604724
>>736604752
>>736604771
>>736604804
Alright, upgrades it is then
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>>736604893
>two Sentry Modes
Damn, son. Just look for a Squeeze and you win the game.
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>>736604892
Just play Sealed Deck custom instead if you're going to abuse that glitch
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>>736580643
In multiplayer you can play it to allow your team to avoid having to block and increase damage output all together.
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>waterfall giant has the highest kill rate
literally how? i suck at the game and have never died to this thing. do i just build decks that counter him specifically or something
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>>736605146
Maybe you are conservative with your health, you are guaranteed to lose a big chunk of health and people often dont take it into account
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>>736604951
It probably not unlocked since it's my first necro game. But what I really need right now is to get rid of cards
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>>736605291
i almost never go into a boss with less than around 1/2 to 2/3 hp if i can help it so yeah maybe that's the case
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>>736605347
find some scaling too
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>>736603501
>turn 2
>28 damage or 11 damage + 21+ effective block
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>>736605632
What do you mean?
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>>736605713
you're dealing a max flat damage amount per turn and your output doesn't grow with time as the fight progresses
it doesn't look like dealing ~24 damage every turn is going to win the damage race against the knowledge demon
search for at least 1 vulnerable source and something else that speeds up the boss fight during act 2
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>>736602983
gg.
I'm the ironclad, sorry to not spend the energy, I need Diamond Diadem to survive.
Well played though!
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Fucking hell, thanks for the carry boys
My deck was so dogshit except towards the end, just couldn't really find anything on act 1 and 2
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>>736605837
24 damage? my guy it's 2x10 + 12 + 24 almost every turn not counting the damage reflected or the summon stacked
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>>736606039
np, gg
(voltaic seems perfectly balanced now heh)
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beta doormaker is too hard i really hope this doesn't make it to the base game
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>>736576421
I have been massively underrating Tyranny, that's a good card.
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>>736606040
your double dying star is a big deal bro. it lifted a lot of pressure.
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>>736606134
Skeleton Key (Relic)
Deal 1 Damage
Deals 50 Damage to Player
Instantly kills the Door
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>>736602469
Damage Necro is insane,I didn't even have Lethality in that run but yeah it's beyond crack rn. Makes Ironclad damage numbers look small by comparison desu.
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>>736605146
It's probably because regardless of how well prepared your deck is going into the fight, he always 100% of the time asks you to block 40+ on a specific turn. You probably don't have the luxury of picking cards throughout the act that give you options to set that turn up, because it's Act 1, you need to pick up attacks and a couple of good blocks to get your foot off the ground at all. You may be in the fortunate position to delay the killing blow for better odds of drawing your block and that's it. You could have picked a Flame Barrier, Glitter Stream, Leg Sweep, just in preparation for this fight, and not draw them on the turn you need it. In STS1, the fire ghost of Act also hits you for something like 36 at some point, but the idea is that if you haven't killed him by then, you're in big trouble. The waterfall giant always explodes for probably 40+, this huge attack always happens.
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>>736606134
i dont understand why he's invulnerable in the first phase and why he also removes all debuffs afterwards.
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c. beast, queen, and doormaker debuffs are all more annoying than time eater ever was and i'm tired of pretending they're not
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>>736606259
it really feels like one of those fights that you need to save a potion for, even if you get it early in the act
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>>736606271
Needed an excuse for him to open a door instead of just immediately murdering you + cope turn to setup
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>>736606271
So you can't infinite him on the first turn
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>>736606378
doesnt explain the debuffs
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>0/6 on ascension 0 silent runs
I just don't get it, no other character has felt this wimpy to me. The attack cards are all ass, the block cards never show up, and the draw cards just refill my hand with basic strikes and defends and I can't keep up with anything by act 2.
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why did they kill the clad strength archetype almost entirely? no heavy blade, no limit break, no spot weakness, no flex, etc.

it's not even like the thing where they gave self-status to defect (for some reason), it's just gone entirely
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>>736606581
silent's individual cards are low impact, but she's really good at taking a lot of actions per turn (draw, discard, 0 cost play, etc.)
you power up by picking stuff that activates every time you do those things

you won't usually be able to play her looking for big "me smash" cards like clad
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>>736606639
They removed a lot of parts that made it work before, but he still has a lot of multi-striking attacks, Demon Form, Rupture and Fight Me off the top of my head. It still feels like you can build him into Strength fairly easily, just in a different way from before. They also made it harder to build poison on The Silent, so my guess is they just didn't want everyone doing the most popular build from the previous game in the same way again.
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>>736606378
Is his infinite HP is the same the waterfall bomb boss, he can be killed by infinite deck
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>>736606826
> Demon Form, Rupture and Fight Me
Only one of those three cards is viable
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>>736607025
>demon form
just get it act 3 with glam after having drafted void form earlier
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does doom disappear at the end of a turn or is it just reduced by one?
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>>736606239
> Makes Ironclad damage numbers look small by comparison desu.
Because every other character damage boost is multiplicative but for some fucking reason Clads only source of damage “multiplier” is fucking linear(cruelty)
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>>736607186
Neither, it stacks up and then kills the enemy at the start of their turn if doom is higher than HP
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>>736607237
so it never fades? god damn
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>>736607271
has the downside of allowing the enemy one more action before proccing though
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I've only managed to a10 because of savescumming.....
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>>736607516
Nope, (you) are firmly placed in A1 where you belong
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>>736607781
still hoosting
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>>736608139
>The game no longer exists
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>>736608172
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775241286183128/76561198230044444
now?
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>>736578160
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>>736608020
for me it's Reaper
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>>736579026
i got 64 mayhem+ one time
what a run
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>hot cocoa and marshmallows
>bread energy

KINOOOOOOOOO
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>>736608821
pure sex desu never gets old
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>>736578413
You're supposed to blame RNG instead of yourself, anon.
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>>736608484
Reaper and Limit Break removal are 50% of the reason why ironclad is the worst character in sts2. The other 50% is the gutting of exhaust builds in general with Dark Embrace being rare, corruption being essentially non-existent, and dead branch being gone. He has nothing to match the scaling other people have, with the sole exception of vuln stacking Bully.
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>6 power cards in a deck of 18 cards
I wish I could have get rid of at least a couple more cards.
I like the idea of the summon but I don't know if it's really viable to go full buffed osty
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>>736588921
yup yup, that's my king
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>go back to A0
>have fun again

Bros...
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>>736609576
wtf
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Regent is easy for me now
Necro fucking filters me so much
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Thoughts on this card?
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>>736609892
Complete ass
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>>736609892
regent always flexes his big sword on the 9 hp phrogling I'm hunting/10
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>>736609892
Amazing if you get it from the act 1 boss (or earlier)
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I literally drew every single card that doesn't deal damage in my 12 cards deck.

Pray for my gold
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>>736609892
Prayer wheel that works on elite and boss/10
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>>736610231
R.I.P he stole it
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>>736609892
crazy card
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>>736610231
what is that border are you playing on Windows 95?
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who /supreme/ here?
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>>736609892
I got 3 rare rewards at the end of an act once, I don't remember how I multiplied it but it was fun.
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>>736602880
>punish card spam decks
*accelerates in your path* nothing personnel
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>Add a random rare card
>Bundle of joy
>Esc
>Give Up
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oh hey there's badge for curses
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is it unethical to savescum in this game?
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>>736611104
It's faster to quit to menu and abandon from there.
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>>736611104
Coward. Play it out. PLAY IT OUT I TELL YOU.
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Thoughts?
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>>736611257
whomst
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>>736611098
yes which is why its not a bad fight
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>>736611148
do whatever you want in your own time for your own entertainment. understand that different people are on different levels ounderstanding when talking about the same game and that the standard understanding will be the game as it was intended to be played (and don't be coy about this). someone who uses items in a platinum game understands that the body of the discussion doesn't, someone who just flies over every level in super mario world understands that the body of the discussion doesn't, and someone who rewinds time in a game where every decision you make matters understands that the body of the discussion doesn't.
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>dude just add cards that solve your immediate problems lmao
I don’t know what my immediate problems are you fags all the cards look good to me I can’t stop myself from adding them
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>>736602834
punish cowards who route around elites by making them fight an elite and not even get a relic
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>>736609892
Feed and hunt are both great, feed a bit easier as Clad can scale damage of it for wider window of it procing
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>>736611451
your immediate problem from the beginning of act 1 is:
-needing one good attack card
-needing one good AoE card
-needing one good block card
do NOT try and synergize these three cards together, do not skip your first attack card because it's not the deck type you had in mind. after you get these three card types, then grab cards you need for the act 1 boss. it's usually only during act 2 that you now look at what you've wound up with and try to start synergizing things. this is generally how it goes, lucky starts can make it go differently.
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>>736611451
a general tip is to avoid overextending your deck. don't add "value" cards if they eat up energy you could be spending on your main strategy.
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>>736611690
Alright fag, I better win this round
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>>736611539
Silent has an easier time drawing out the fight to proc the hunt at the best time and leaving unscathed compared to clad and feed in my opinion
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>>736611312
Baalorlord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfDVMwGV7f4
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Vakuu bros? Our response?
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>>736611451
this game is just one big knowledge gap most of the time. the more you play the better you get.
what also helped me get better is looking up win rate on cards here to decide which one to take https://sts2.fun/cards?character=ALL
that being said DO NOT take cards that might be good later with synergy but do nothing for you right now like pic related for example.
if you can't exhaust at the moment it just does nothing and you shouldn't gamble on getting synergy in the future.
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>>736611846
I need to watch the video then.
I imagine "All For One" always excellent he means on his own deck since it's useless without 0 costers.
Gunk Up has never worked for me as well as barrage usually does (a card you can naturally slot in almost any orb deck in act 1), even on the status deck it's kind of low impact.
Besides that, yeah, good cards on top, bad cards on the bottom, looks okay. I understand he slotted scaling pieces on the "combo" category as well. The list probably makes more sense when you listen to the commentary.
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>wants to like ironclad cuz fast pace
>always get raped

Meanwhile silent is way easier, drawing is too OP NERF NOW
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>silent the sneaky assassin type has WAY better block cards than fucking Ironclad
what were they thinking
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>>736612115
>drawing is too OP
laughs in necro
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>>736611904
he got their ass
sent those freaks flying well done
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>>736612115
Clad draws a lot too
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>>736612289
she's mostly evading and dodging things which is represented by block, with 'block' cards such as dodge and roll, escape plan, shadowmeld, after image, etc
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>>736608231
GG, I think I got hard carried there by the other but yeah, that was fun
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>>736612476
door tore me to pieces, shouldve waited with playing tank
then again it did prevent some dmg so idk
gg
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>>736608231
>>736612565
gg lads
took me a long time to realize i just needed to play the smith and the sword after I got voidform for free in the door's fight
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>>736612289
She blocks by evading attacks
Clad tanks them
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>>736612289
>clad keeping block cost 3 energy and it's a rare card
>silent block keeping card cost one and is semi-rare

IT MAKES NO SENSE NERF NOW
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>>736611803
> and leaving unscathed
Almost never an option for Clad
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>what are powers
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>>736613147
3 cost rares are supposed to be good
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>entire games strategy is card draw + pot luck
Lol
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I love tear asunder so much. Chopchopchopchopchop.
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Bash is trash lower its cost and save the class
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>>736613792
>save the class by buffing one specific reward
???
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>>736613792
just pick the 1 cost tremble energy jew
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>>736613849
He needs more but buffing starter deck would help immensely in act 1
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>>736613978
sorry for brain damage, my mind went to the evolved bash
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>>736613978
didn’t he have that exact same starting deck in the previous game?
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>>736614156
Yes but enemies were less aggressive in first game so he could much easier trade health for health
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>>736613792
upgrade it and its alright
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>>736612289
ironclad has to go all out... just this once... sorry master.... so he cant block, only attack



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