why were Sonic fans fine with the movies turning Gerald Robotnik into a buffoon
>>736579480After 30 years of sonic itself being a joke, it's nothing new.
>>736579480because he didn't have a character before
>>736579480Because they still kept the part that matters
>>736579480>turning Gerald Robotnik into a buffoonAs opposed to what?
>>736579480Because Jim Carrey is a fun actor to watch.
>>736579480He was honestly fine up until the last fight. They made it so that he was just playing along with Eggman's delusions and desire for family in order to get him to do what he wanted, with Gerald going back to cold and vengeful when left to his own devices, as well as stuff like this >>736579961 scene where he lets his true colors show.It's just a shame they chickened out at the very end. You can tell the people in charge were getting scared of being too serious and getting made fun of by critics, so they felt the need to throw in some more of those incredibly out of place jokes that they love to do.
>>736579480He's more of a dastard in that movie than his game version.
>dies because Eggman shoved a quill up his ass, making him fart and leap into a wall of chaos energy like a bug flying into a bug zapper
>>736580213>there is a nonzero chance that they will either make amy or metal fart in the next movie because every sonic movie has had one fart joke in it
>>736579480There are no "Gerald Robotnik" fans. He's a background character even if he ultimately pulls the trigger on a gun to Earth's head.But all that aside, if you can accept Jim Carrey as Robotnik, you're already done the hard part. Just go 1 step further and accept Gerald as an extension of him.
I still think about this scene https://youtu.be/htgpuS0wyFo?si=KHTbCgr8QUdx16oS Never thought the idea of Jim Carry as Eggman would be something I actually enjoy.
>>736579480I wasn't. I thought the whole Ivo/Gerald scenes were cringe and worst part of the movie.
>>736579480I wasn't fine with Gerald being alive in it at all.Gerald was always a great villain because he almost succeeded in destroying the fucking world from beyond the grave.
>>736579961Is movie Robotnik even aware of Maria's existence? Line kind of falls flat when you realize he's probably thinking>...Who the hell is Maria?
>>736580595Why is he Waluigi?
>>736581243They could have met when they were kids, I suppose, but it doesn't really matter if a (grand)father figure you adore suddenly tells you you're inferior to a cousin you never met. The sting probably isn't any less.
>>736579631/thread, holy shit lol
>>736579480>why were Sonic fans fine with the movies turning Gerald Robotnik into a buffoonYou have to understand: Sonic fans have no standards. So don't be surprised by some insane bullshit they support from completely out of left field.
>>736581243>>736581384Maria being older than Eggman and dying before he was even born still kinda fucks with me.That and Shadow technically being 50, old enough to be Sonic's dad.
I gave all my fucks to Sonic's bitchified character in 1. I don't have the energy to care what they did to Gerald.
>>736581384The movies act like Robotnik has been an orphan without any kind of family connection his entire life (I think he even says so himself in third one), it's why he doubts Gerald is even his grandfather when they first meet.Just another case of writers forgetting that individual characters aren't carrying all the same info as the audience.
>>736580458If Amy braps, the future of the children is wraps
>>736581716So you're just gonna ignore my point that it really doesn't matter to either Eggy or Gerald if he never knew Maria personally, huh?
>>736581384>a (grand)father figure you adore suddenly tells you you're inferior to a cousin you never met. The sting probably isn't any less.In Frontiers, there's an Egg Memo about how Ivo was neglected as a child because the whole family was still mourning over Maria. "They kept crying over Maria when I was right here!"
>>736581806Because you're glossing over the point that movie Robotnik has no context as to who Maria even is. To him, "Maria" wouldn't bring memories of some distant cousin that Gerald favors, it's just a random name. So that line in the moment shouldn't invoke any kind of sting, really - just confusion.At least based on the movie's progression. Again, it's just a slip-up on the writers' part.
>>736582172>To him, "Maria" wouldn't bring memories of some distant cousin that Gerald favorsWHY. WOULD. IT. NEED. TO?He just told him to his face he's not as good as his cousin. And we have no reason to believe he doesn't at the very least know he had a cousin named Maria. He had a lifetime of chances to find out about his family tree even before meeting Gerald face to face.
>turning
>>736582289>WHY. WOULD. IT. NEED. TO?>He just told him to his face he's not as good as his cousin.Anon, we just went over this. Robotnik doesn't know who Maria is or that she was his cousin. He's never given any reason to know these things, at least not that I remember. So when Gerald compares Ivo to Maria, he might as well being saying "You're no Bill" or "Marty" or whatever. It would have the same effect, which would be (or should be) Ivo responding "...what the hell are you talking about?">And we have no reason to believe he doesn't at the very least know he had a cousin named Maria. He had a lifetime of chances to find out about his family tree even before meeting Gerald face to face.Again, he literally has a short monologue about not having any known family in the scene right before he meets Gerald. It's whole purpose is a set up to him being skeptical on Gerald being his grandfather.
Why didn't they think to protect their heads?
>>736579480to me, robotnik is always PINGAS PINGAS PINGAS
>>736582894Baldness reflects lasers naturally, it'd be a waste of resources.
>>736579480I think you're more upset that he's a chud>I know grandson, a woman in the military...And in true chud fashion he tried to kill everyone, including himself
>>736582894Usually dance routines make me cringe but Jim Carrey somehow made me not hate this.
>>736581243Ligma balls
>>736579480Every thing they did with Ivo was fucking awful.-Having him as a living character when that adds FUCKING NOTHING TO THE MOVIE-Having him try to be funny when Eggman already fills that role-Push the button scene was shit and not funny.-Ruining the doomsday plot by having it come from just a silly old man, instead of lingering hatred from beyond the grave that can't be talked to or reasoned with.-Removing the Iconic Pre-recorded message in favor of some silly old cunt just talking with eggman instead.-That shitty fight scene at the end was where I checked out like:>ok this movie is pure trash. beyond redemption.
>>736580213>Maria ends up getting all the fart content
>>736582894Ego.
>>736580027https://youtu.be/MkjlIgLYrc0?si=vOB5pc-1lfK_EsNA&t=87
>>736579480Jim Carey funny
>>736579480They're super shitty kids movies
>>736579480I didn't like this change but i'll admit jim made gerald very funny and i liked the twist at the end that he and shadow just wanted to kill themselves
>>736582894Because the suit created a shield all around them, it's not just the suit
>>736579480Because they changed Sonic's design that one time, so clearly everything they do is out of love for the games and you're just a hater if you say otherwise!/s
>>736584983dude spent the last twentyish years trying to crawl up his own asshole so it's nice to see him allow himself to be a goofy fucker and have some fun again
