>>736583597
It comes out in 1 hour.

TOTAL SMOGON DEATH

>>736583740
>>736583597
Nothing ever happens

>30 fps battles with frame dips even on switch 2
epic

Showdown will never die as long as poors need a free alternative. X/Y already had an excellent online battle feature, so if there was ever a time for Showdown to die it would have been back then.

>no 6v6 singles
lel

>>736583698
>>736583597
up yet?

>>736586204
I'M IN

>>736586121
This thing is free retardbro

>>736586121
Is Showdown available on mobile? I know when the mobile version of Champions comes out it'll steal a lot of thunder.

>>736586358
No release date, just that it’s coming “at later date” though rumors say it’s coming in June

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>game is shown to be incredibly jewish with monetization
>”lol who cares, just import your team from HOME”
>HOME isn’t even supported at launch
>you HAVE to put money down if you wanna get anywhere
>”btw don’t forget to pay $7 for the starter pack to make building your team easier”
And people were genuinely thinking the game would be generous

>Membership AND battlepass
good lord..

>>736583597
So what's this game about? Is it going to even be worth the download or should I just skip it?

i picked the ZARD and just started raping these nerds at low rank

>>736587381
its just pokemon battle pvp, nothing more, nothing less

this game kinda addicting ngl..

holy fuck the free pokemon suck they want you to buy the games to get them yourself

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>>736586602
Still buying Pokemon Champions

>>736587595
That shouldn't surprise you
They've been doing it like that since Stadium 1

>>736587595
The rentals sucked ass back then too. Hopefully you had the transfer pak that let you grind ingame.

>>736587893
Shills are fucking disgusting. Only being on Earth that’s worse are the creepy Disney adult trannies that give NuPokemon money.

Pretty fun
But this: >>736587595
feels like i'll get utterly raped by nerds eventually that have full trained mons

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>Over half of the pokemon I prepared in Home aren't even available

>incredibly tiny dex
>retarded balance changes
nah

>>736583597
I just one shot someones team with Tyranitar lol

>>736583597
>No randbats
Lol.

you wanna kill showdown? randbats is the answer.

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>24 HOURS UNTIL SHOWDOWN DIES

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NSO Membership + Pokemon Home Subscription + mobile microtransaction garbage (+ Starter Pack)

>30 FPS laggy garbage
>No Switch 2 update in sight

Not a good look. Seriously why the fuck can they never get Pokemon right?

>It's made by fucking ILCA

Oh, that explains a lot.

>>736583597
>No mobile version day one
Smogon lives until that happens.

>>736589283
>ILCA
International Lactation Consultant Association?

>>736589375
I Love Computer Art. They're the faggots that made the shitty Diamond and Pearl remakes on Switch 1. But yeah they may as well be called what you're naming them. These incompotent morons can't even get a simple battle sim right.

>>736583597
>Premium currency everywhere
>No 6 v 6 single
>Massive Dexit
>Only fully evolved Pokémon allowed
This game is basically a walking advertisement for Showdown.

>>736587595
Eh.
I don't see why you'd play this if you didn't own at least one of the official Switch titles.

Mega Clefable: Magic Bounce
Mega Victreebel: Innards Out
Mega Starmie: Huge Power
Mega Dragonite: Multiscale
Mega Meganium: Mega Sol
Mega Feraligatr: Dragonize
Mega Skarmory: Stalwart
Mega Chimecho: Levitate
Mega Froslass: Snow Warning
Mega Emboar: Mold Breaker
Mega Excadrill: Piercing Drill
Mega Chandelure: Infiltrator
Mega Golurk: Unseen Fist
Mega Chesnaught: Bulletproof
Mega Delphox: Levitate
Mega Greninja: Protean
Mega Floette: Fairy Aura
Mega Meowstic: Trace
Mega Hawlucha: No Guard
Mega Crabominable: Iron Fist
Mega Drampa: Berserk
Mega Scovillain: Spicy Spray
Mega Glimmora: Adaptability
Paralysis nerfed to full paralyze 12.5% instead of 25% of the time.

>>736589526
Fans actually like dexcuts when it comes to competitive, XY's meta for instance was quite liked before Bank became available.

>>736586602
Anon, I literally took some Pokemon from HOME onto Champions today.

>>736588975
jesus christ i thought this was AI at first
that's an actual ad? HAHAHAHA

>another shovelware to milk pokemongold
What a surprise...

>Mega Skarmory: Stalwart
>Mega Victreebel: Innards Out
Gamefreak really doesn't care anymore, huh?

>>736590290
Going to be honest, I think ZA's mega designs are so shit which means something because I'm fine with every single generation with maybe a few disliked mons but not 90% of it. Sure it's designs but I do think they don't give a shit at all anymore

>>736589714
Man, that's pretty underwhelming.
What about Golisopod?

>>736590642
Not all of the megas are available on release.

>>736583597
Why would it die? Champions is an inferior product

>>736588382
You'll survive.

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>no life orb, choice specs or band
What are they going for here?

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Does it need NSO?

>>736591393
>powercreep items removed
This might actually be interesting.

>>736591443
Free to play games like fortnite don't require nso.

>>736589714
>No Guard Mega Hawlucha
That’s awesome actually

Does it have a singles format or is this just VGC doubles?
I know base games have the singles format online but it’s that shitty 3v3 nobody cares about.

>>736591524
All it really gets that benefits is Hi Jump Kick and Stone Edge, and remember No Guard's other effect too

>>736591443
How else do you play online games on the switch?

>>736591560
It's the shitty 3v3, currently there are no other Rule options despite the current VGC rules, but more can be added.

>>736591482
alright cool same as usual then, thanks. saw some articles saying otherwise.

>>736591581
usually f2p games are exempted, like unite.

>>736591560
They're not even allowing you the option to play 6v6 in private matches. Gamefreak is just telling singles players to go fuck themselves.

>>736590290
They read what you said about Mega Scovillain and decided to punish every other Mega for it.

>>736591649
>Gamefreak is just telling fanfic players to go fuck themselves
ftfy

>shitty rental teams
>tiny dex size
>tons of missing items
>limited rulesets
>30 fps
>same old modern pokemon taking 2+ minutes to take a single turn
Why would this kill showdown?

>>736591393
band/specs/life orb made a bunch of megas completely fucking useless so I like this change honestly

>>736589714
>Mega Victreebel: Innards Out
IMAGINE wasting a mega on this

>also thunderus nerfed again

>>736591782
Name 5

>>736591393
QUICK CLAW GODS WE ARE BCK

>>736586602
>HOME isn’t even supported at launch
It is, are you retarded?

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>>736583597
Does this have acupuncture Shuckle?

it's nothing but rain archaludon teams on ranked

>>736591820
Hard mode. No TTar.

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>>736591950
Causal is also fucked. My second match was some dude who first turn setup sandstorm and stealth rocks.
These people make Mario kart sweats look like functional members of society.
The vgc community is like everyone playing tier 0 decks in a tcg.
I need PvE content soon

>>736591736
This is releasing on mobile too down the line right? Guess what all those non-Switch players with no bank are gonna do.

>>736592042
Ttar Mega was good and used in Smogon tournaments

>>736591950
Because it's the most powerful strategy currently available without grinding out Mega Stones in a roster that's smaller than Stadium 2 and barely any items worth a shit.

>>736589714
>Mega Greninja: Protean
is it still the nerfed version
do you at least get double proteans if you delay the mega

>>736592072
AHHHH NOT THE SNEAKY PEBBLES
NIGGERMAN IM GOING CRAAAAZY

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>>736589216
>oh you have home premium and the latest games connected to home?
>you want a fucking consolation prize? Now fork over the fifty or get the fuck outta here.
The fact Nintendo switch online + expansion pack, Pokémon home premium and being an avid player of the current Pokémon titles gives you FUCK ALL in the game is insulting.

>>736583597
does it have different tiers like showdown? Or are 90% of the pokemon going to be completely stomped by the meta teams?

>>736592072
I don't know what you expected
Just because the mode is called casual doesn't mean people aren't going to be playing meta or using some kind of strategy

which Pokémon from the tutorial should I pick?

>>736592216
Bro it's VGC. They have an arbitrary ban list. Then 30 useful pokemon, and the other 90% of the dex is useless or super niche.

>>736592216
no tiers. 95% of the roster is unplayable dogshit that only exists to be farmed by the top meta mons.

>>736592072
>I need PvE content soon
Wait there's no pve content right now? What was the point of the champion girl and mayor then? Just to add them to master sex?

The last time I played pokemon was smogon gen 5. Why are you retards still seething about smogon? I don't get it. It's not like you're going to play against them, they are all on showdown.

>>736592290
some story shit only

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>>736591950
Thanks for the hot tip anon!

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>tfw all of my pokemon are stuck on Pokemon XY and I never downloaded pokemon bank and the stupid 3ds store is closed so I can’t download it now and I just have no fucking idea how to get my pokemon from XY to fucking Home so I can play Champions with out getting curbed stomped by fags playing meta
Maybe I’ll just not play champions, yeah that sounds like a good idea yeah.

>>736591950
Why the fuck is Archaludon in that thing is too fucking overpowered

>>736592637
if you hack your 3ds you can pirate bank and it works to transfer up to home
i would advise against doing this though because moving mons to home is a paid service and champions sucks mega dick

>>736591820
Mewtwo
Tyranitar
Scizor
Latios
Garchomp

basically any mega that's just "base form, but with higher stats" sucks ass because there's no reason to not just run LO instead and use your mega on something else

>>736592690
nintendo punishing people for saying archaludon looked stupid.

>>736592767
mega scizor is way better than regular scizor what are you smoking bro

>>736588975
That man masturbates to charizard porn which is the only based thing about that atrocity

>>736592774
I hate this mon’s entire existence it’s a steel/dragon pseudo-legendary with stamina woooooooooow let’s give duraludon an evolution because we have no ideas good fucking job game freak

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>>736589714
>Mega Chandelure: Infiltrator
>Mega Crabominable: Iron Fist
>Mega Drampa: Berserk

>>736591524
It should have been Disguise.

>>736592184
This freemium garbage is supposed to kill Showdown?

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>>736592184
You seriously can't afford $50 over 12 months? It says it right there that it's good value

it's honestly amazing how poor of a launch this is. not having every pokemon is expected, but the selection is so poor on top of missing LOADS of essential held items. no life orb? only choice scarf? no assault vest? Going from S/V which generally had pretty good PVP (though fluttermane was probably too strong) to this is a massive downgrade.

They nerfed Moonblast!! Now the stat drop chance is 10 from 30
This also applies to Psychic because fuck you

>>736593163
>they’re essential because I’m too retarded to make a different strategy
no wonder unovafags have a meltdown whenever they have to play gen 3

>>736593232
>I seek negative attention from internet strangers!
ok anon

>>736592813
no it isn’t
why the fuck would I use mega scizor instead of LO or CB normal scizor and an actually good mega like lucario or kangaskhan?

>>736593163
That's why you're supposed to bring your own pokemon and items just like Stadium 1, 2 and Battle Revolution
This game is supposed to push sales of the main games

>>736593308
>no it isn't
yes it is
>why would i use it when i could use lucario instead (lol)
why would you use literally any fucking mega in the entire game over mega salamence?

>>736593171
Between this and the paralyze nerf the game sounds like a disaster

>gen 3 starters aren't in
HOENN SISTERS....

>>736592637
>>736592754
And if you get a modded 3DS you can also back-up your XY save, transfer your guys to Home, then RESTORE your XY save so you have them in both "eras"

>>736593389
you do not understand what you are talking about, you cannot transfer items at ALL or pokemon that are not yet in the game.

>>736592072
>My second match was some dude who first turn setup sandstorm and stealth rocks.
Dawg

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>think I could use my home pokemons (I shoved a few on a the free box from go) on champions
>read on thread that home is not avaible at launch
>also I probably need to give my pokemon decent moves
>all under the level of 50 too
its joever

>>736593393
>why would you use literally any fucking mega in the entire game over mega salamence?
this is why megas suck, especially in the context of a PVP only game. Why would I ever use mega scovillian when mega balance is so skewed towards the very few good ones? they're fine in a PvE sense because you can just run whatever you want, but spending your one mega type on a trash mega is literally just throwing the game, and there are more bad megas than good.

>>736593482
I'm telling you what the purpose of the game is and why there is a lack of all the things you're complaining about
They've done this 3 times now with the difference being you could use your own shit immediately
You may not be able to do it right now but the option to do so is coming

>>736593534
they'd scale to level 50 and home is available on launch, but yeah you'd probably need the ingame funny money to redo their stats and moves.

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FACTOID TRVKE: Smogon's tiering system makes their formats superior to any of the "official" formats.

>>736593543
yeah, megas only really work in a smogon-like tier system that gives room for all of them to shine. the one per team rule is just too harsh on everything that isn't lucky enough to be in the top 3.

>>736593393
>yes it is
no it isn’t
>b-buh salamence
salamence isn’t in the game

>>736593163
Too early to say lacking those items is a bad thing. Gen 3 is one of the most praised metas and part of why is because it only introduced the Choice Band and not stuff like Scarf and Life Orb.

>>736593584
the purpose of the game is to milk PVP fags of money via subs and battle passes anon. that's why you can't just transfer over items, because they want you to enter the ecosystem and play, and the more you play the more likely you will buy in.

>>736593668
>higher tiered than base scizor in smogon singles
>more commonly used than base scizor in both battle spot singles and VGC
>erm it's actually worse because i'm a retard or something
maybe try playing the game?

>>736593745
lower power level formats are fine, it's just a bad look when the game is running a low power level format because all the good shit isn't implemented into the game. If the items were in, but the ranked mode format made them illegal that's fine. but as is it looks like they gutted the roster, item variety and even customization of private lobbies to sell you a monthly sub and a battlepass. on top of sloppy shit like input delay on menuing in battle.

this feels like an early access version of a game that's still years out from release

>>736593429
THEY'RE REWORKING SCEPTILE TO BE A PHSYICAL ATTACKER TRUST THE PLAN

>>736593845
>b-but it’s higher tier in my fanfic format where all the megas better than it are banned
smogshit has done irreparable damage to competitive pokemon discourse

>>736594142
>ignores where i specifically mentioned the official singles and doubles formats
i humbly and gracefully accept your concession.

>>736594081
>Mega Gallade still has Inner Focus, making it worse than base Gallade with Sharpness and Expert Belt
lol no, it's still gonna be shit

>>736594217
eh it had some usage in doubles, winning an international event even but it pales in comparison to like, Gengar, Kanga and Salamence.

>Mega Scizor
>Totals: 4,500$ | 124 Points
>Regional Top 8: 6, including 1 win
>International Top 8: 1, including 1 win
https://limitlessvgc.com/pokemon/scizor-mega/results

>Mega Salamence
>Totals: 109,000$ | 3497 Points
>Regional Top 8: 104, including 14 wins
>International Top 8: 15, including 3 wins
https://limitlessvgc.com/pokemon/salamence-mega/results

>Mega Gengar
>Totals: 89,500$ | 1663 Points
>Regional Top 8: 50, including 10 wins
>International Top 8: 13, including 2 wins
https://limitlessvgc.com/pokemon/gengar-mega/results

>Mega Kangaskhan
>Totals: 112,750$ | 4148 Points
>Regional Top 8: 123, including 20 wins
>International Top 8: 18, including 1 win
https://limitlessvgc.com/pokemon/kangaskhan-mega/results

I won't speak for singles because singles is stinky and I hate it, but Mega Scizor has basically always been outclassed by other megas.

>>736594434
>in doubles
No one cares

>>736594494
you've mistaken yourself for everyone anon.

>>736593534
I've seen people suggest to trade trash Go Pokémon to trade bots that generate what you want for Home. Don't know if that actually works.

>>736594434
it's outclassed in doubles by the good megas 100%, but that wasn't my point. my point was that it was still better and more commonly used there and saw more success during its brief window of existence than base scizor, which is a fact. anon was just having a melty.

>>736594656
yeah, shame because I quite like Scizor. Technician is a neat ability and the typing has always been one of the more interesting ones.

i thought this was the vgc game why are the games still closed team sheets

>>736594715
maybe mega golisopod will have a half-decent ability for doubles and get to be a cool bug/steel there, though after gamefreak completely shit all over every ZA mega not named meganium or floette, i don't have high hopes.

>>736594656
>my point was [LIE]

>>736586201
The game's not balanced for that

>>736594784
The memes about it getting a renamed Wimp Out/Emergency Exit are infinitely more valid now that we know repackaged abilities are still a thing (see: Unseen Fist and Piercing Drill, which are carbon copies of each other), it's going to be an utter shitshow.

>>736594784
mega gorluk getting unseen fist is pretty neat though it is the rightfully nerfed version of it. He gets Rage Fist too I think so he might end up being a halfway decent trick room attacker until the stupid broken shit is added.

>>736594854
i'm half expecting it to get a guard dog clone.

>>736594886
rage fist was sadly debunked.

>>736594976
>rage fist was sadly debunked.
damn. guess it makes sense for it to be the Annihilape signature move but still.

>>736593534
>>read on thread that home is not avaible at launch
I fucking KNEW they'd abuse the home compatibility, I GUARANTEE you they'll stagger home to always be behind so people feel fomo about new waves of releases

>>736595039
Home is available.

>>736592637
Mod your 3ds. It's very easy. Then you make a backup of your savefile before you send the Pokémon to Bank and then Home.

>>736592767
They removed Life Orb

>>736594284
Mega Gallade isn’t particularly good but being immune to intimidate is useful

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What did ILCA mean but this?

>>736595284
sex with the one female gallade in existence
i call dibs

>>736595198
Exactly, the point is that those Megas might actually viable now because there is no Life Orb. Reducing the items is unironically a good thing but people are screeching about it because Pokemon fans are retards who think every single game needs to be identical to the last one.

>>736589714
>Mega Starmie: Huge Power
This is obviously bullshit

>>736595284
Nonexistent quality control, just like the rest of this game.

>>736595351
none of those megas will be viable because gamefreak still put some of the actually good megas in the game.

>>736595354
No, it's very legit. Everyone was calling Huge Power Starmie since LZA itself because it had an inflated BST that went beyond the usual +100 stat boost from Mega Evolution that put emphasis on its attack stat, and the same thing happened to Mega Mawile, another Huge Power mon, and Medicham (both base and mega) because it had Pure Power, done because LZA had almost no abilities.

>Still no battle simulator with every pokemon and gimmicks where you can fight strong bots and PVE with your dream team
I don't care about competitive i dropped this game the second i saw the pokedex

>>736595446
sorry bro closest thing to that is emerald rogue but it's still far from a full on simulator

So entry hazzards are pretty much useless in single right since there's no 6v6 well at least for now

>>736595490
eh you still might see some glimmora but outside of that probably no hazards

>>736595546
Even then people are using Glimmora for its offense rather than its hazard utility, originally it was Power Herb Meteor Beam but now Power Herb isn't even IN this fucking game right now so it's gonna be Adaptability Mega Glimmora instead.

where's funny green gorilla

>>736595602
i doubt anyone is going to use mega glimm in 3v3 singles it's just not fast enough for a hyper offense format like that
especially since choice scarf is one of the few good items left in the game

these fuckers removed assault vest but kept quick claw

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GALLADE SISTERS....

>>736595809
Trans are heckin valid & cute, chud!

>>736594494
Doubles is the only thing that matters.

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ATTENTION EVERYBODY, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION MUST ANSWER:

CAN I DOWNLOAD A ROM OF POKEMON CHAMPIONS AND PLAY THE GAME ON A SWITCH EMULATOR IF I DONT HAVE A SWITCH??? THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER

>>736595990
no
it's 100% online
wait for the mobile version and either play on your phone or use an android emulator to play it on pc

>>736595809
Male Gardevoirs would never

>>736595683
>quick claw
>no Walrein
My dreams of being a battle tower NPC…

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is anyone playing
show rank/teams

>>736598102
I have work today I couldn’t afford to stay up fucking Japanese children in Pokemon and also no Dondozo threw off my plans

>>736598916
>no Dondozo
Koh is gonna freak

>>736598916
>missed out on fucking japanese children
my condolences