YOU DID IT!
>>736593453>it actually just works
>>736593462Todd you beautiful bastard
>>736593462POI?
>>736594527Point of interest
>>736594527piece of india
>>736593462Go back
too late jeet
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>>736593462Read some of the comments, some people still finding repeat POIs.
I just blasted all over my pants
Did it remove the brown people and fag strip clubs?
the worldbuilding and characters are absolute ass, so this will never be engoodened.
>>736596823You play it for the combat... ohYou play it for the mods...waitYou play for the rewarding exploration?
>>736593453>a way to transfer items through unitySurely that's missing the point?
>>736593453But does it fix the part where every companions is an insufferable Karen who follows you around judges and commenting on everything you do
>Starfield fixes everything you can go directly on a planet now without loading!reality:>A lie and its still the same as beforeImagine still falling for Todd's lies in 2026
>>736597254Todd can't fix your wife I'm afraid
>>736595236Looks yummy, whatever that is!
Did this break that Star Wars conversion mod? I wanted to try that out.
>>736597368>Does [Official Bethesda updates] breaks [mods]?Bro are you 10 or what
>>736597317You dont think you would use a map before landing on a planet irl? Really youre complaining the game is too realistic for you. Btw you can use the physical starboard map on your ship
>>736597317Loadingfield strikes again!
>>736593453Stop trying to make S0ifield happen, it's not going to happen
>>736597317not once did they say there was going to be seamless landings. i'm all for shitting on bethesda but they give you enough ammunition for that without having to make your own
Item transfer in to NG+ ain't shit, it was how you lost your customized space ship and space bases. Space ship customizing was sorta expensive but fiddly work in that customization screen, and base building was just ass.
>>736593462The problem isn't actually solved. Most points of interest need specific environments, plus specific terrain features to be eligible to spawn. If you land in an exterior cell on a cold, barren, rocky planet and there's no suitable mountain or crater for the three or four pickiest points of interest in the pool, you're still going to get a bunch of repeats. Just not right next to each other. And even if there's a suitable spot in the cell for one of those locations, there's still no guarantee it'll be rolled instead of a more common location. It's just more likely than it was before because the system excludes duplicates within a certain range. The smartest way to have fixed it would have been to just flag those especially picky locations and ensure that they always spawn whenever their conditions are met. Sure, you'd lose some of the "Every playthrough is a little different" effect. But it's not like always getting the Desecrated Ball Stretcher Lab on the highest mountain in Cell bQXrG29 on Planet Buttholio IV b is such a compromise when everywhere else gets shuffled. Most players aren't going to even register that's what's going on. They might never find that landing spot on Buttholio IV b ever again, or think it's remarkable that they found that location.
>>736597317But you can enter a planet without opening the map, just enter scanner mode and hold whatever prompt it is to land. It also works with travelling to systems where your next mission is.
>>736597797that was the entire selling point of the updatetodd lies again and his shiteaters defend it
>>736597254Yea there is a new neutral companion
>>736598060sorry to hear that you are retarded
>>736593453these are marketing posts by Bethesda aren't they?
Does the game still look like hot doo doo flaming garbage or did they completely overhaul the visuals?
>>736598283Its a bethesda game anonThe only thing they can occasionally make look nice is environments
>>736597317So starfield works like every other space game now, impressive how good bethesda is at programming.
>>736598283Game looks extremely beautiful with me after the update, dont know what they did but it's nice to see clear crisp IQ instead of everything being covered by anti soul gas you find in UE5 games.
>>736597317this wasn't even true prior to the update, you can point your ship at an icon and use that to land.
>>736593453>the few mods for this flaming trash pile will now be broken and probably stay broken
>>736598628Somehow, I don't believe you, but I'm sure there are visual mods that make the game look better.
>>736597341coleoptera claws typed this post
>>736598595I've played jank indie shit like space engineers and empyrion that have seemless planet landings.
>>736598772Well you can watch videos on youtube, personally I think it looks sharp and the textures are high quality.
>>736598820Todd, I want you to wire me $75,000 for talking to me.
>>736596823you can mod the darkies out, but the rest ...
Did what exactly? Unless I missed something all they did was make it more tedious by letting you float between planets in real time so you can spend more time doing nothing on your ship. Who the fuck actually wants to do that?Once the novelty wears off you're absolutely just going to fast travel everywhere again.
>>736597341It's a giant malteser, very yummy!
>>736593453>>736593462>It took one of the biggest gamedevelopers 3 years to finally make a passable game medicoreWowWhat an achievment
If it's good now why do people still hate it?
>>736597317It's going to be funny when TES6 finally releases and there's still loading screens to get into every area in the game
>>736600620Because its a piece of shit
>>736600636It was bound to end this way ever since Oblivion put walls around every city.
Starfield had similar "worldbuilding" as the original Star Trek where there were just themepark worlds.>nazi planet>chicago gangsters planet>cowboy planet>roman planet>Harry Mudd's planet for cool dudes and hot chicks
>>736600620update just came out like 12 hours ago and people are beginning to change their mind about it.
are you kidding me stop wasting time on this fucking game
>>736600925Wow you're right. Recent reviews are actually 71% positive instead of 65%. What a shift, the game is surely saved!
>>736600636It'll either be:>Instanced like usualor>Empty world of nothingness like Fallout 76
>>736595236But enough about Elden Ring
>>736601031Starfield is getting at least 8 more years of DLC and patches so if it isnt saved now there's still many more years left before people change their minds.
>>736600925People realized that the scam happened >>736597317
>>736597317Yeah, that's because planets in Starfield are just pngs and if you land on them, you load into a little square.
Even Dynasty Warriors that shipped the same shit with their dead engine decided to revamp everything. Todd & Bethesda STILL think they can get away with creation engine and its flaws because they are too cheap to hire actual game software engineers
>>736600792No, that would at least be somewhat interesting.Starfield has "multicultural generic planet" and "multicultural generic planet" and "multicultural generic planet" and "multicultural generic planet with a drug that slows time down for 10 second which you can get in that amazing nightclub".
>>736601404So it's like star trek then
>>736601064
>>736601301>scamLiterally nobody said there was seamless planetary landing and if anyone was retarded enough to think it then they actually deserve to be scammed
>>736600792Well yeah, just without the fun alien species or occasionally interesting writing.
>>736594527Handmade bits that get slotted into the generated spaces so they aren't the same thing over and over again.Apparently, people were getting the same ones repeatedly regardless which really just kills the whole point.Now it's passable which is cock gobbling quality in the elder scrolls fan's handbook.
>>736600620Bethesda didnt pay any youtuber ecelebs so publiv opinion wont change
>>736602234I think it's because the game is shit. You're not smart enough for the whole being cynical thing, so please stop.
>>736601037The cities in starfield arent even instanced. There is a loading screen to land anywhere on the planet but from there you can walk into the cities without any loading, regardless of where you landed
>>736597317>Bethesda can't get you to land into a ship without a complete loading screen>The best Ubisoft can do is a "not a loading screen" loading screen of your space pod going through clouds>No Man's Sky can fucking do it, and was able to do it 10 years ago in its hyper shit state at launchAnons... I think gaming has gotten worse....
>>736602274It cant be that bad when it outlived all these games and is still getting content.
>>736601064And after that's done they can start working on Skyrim right?Right?
>>736593453This flopped even harder than the first DLC.
>>736602339It's too late for Skyrim, Todd has said that his biggest regret was not having enough money and manpower to keep updating skyrim and fallout 4 and Starfield is the first time Bethesda has expanded big enough to have a team dedicated to working on new content and patches for years to come while the main dev team works on their next big game which is TESVI right now.
LOL
>>736594554poo of indian*
>>736593453>>736593462Okay, my question is - if they know the right thing to do, why can't they do things right the first time?
>>736600620It's wild how if you check Steam reviews it's almost a straight 50/50 split on Starfield. You either love or hate this game
>>736602507This is what happens when you make a game full of soul and passion instead of mass appeal. People either love it or hate it and that's perfectly fine for a video game because that meant they took risks to make a game that wont appeal to everyone.
I thought this was going to be some huge 2.0 relaunch, they just added slowly flying between planets you can't even land on?
>>736602708you can land on all the planets though
>>736602780woo you can land on a planet and do nothing I'm willing to bet they didn't even add any new POIs.
>>736602918they did actually
>>736594527you'd land on a planet and find a bio lab you can explore. Then you'd land on another planet and find the exact same bio lab
>>736602409People cannot be bothered again, because this piece of shit is now weighing 200 GB.
>>736602959What's the ratio of unique POIs to planets now? It used to be about 0.1 at launch.
points of interestyou would land on a planet you would find an empty cave. you could land on another planet and find that exact same cave. or you could land on a planet and find a pile of dinosaur poo. you could land on another planet and find that exact same pile of dinosaur poo. you could land on a planet and find a mining base, read the email on the computer. you could land on another planet and find that exact same mining base, with that exact same email on the computer. you saw them repeat frequently because there only a handful.
>>736602503That's not very diverse, equitable, or inclusive of you anon
>>736600620>67%
>>736603157
>>736603110that doesnt happen though
>>736603110The biggest issue is that all of the POI interiors look basically the same and you're fighting the same shit. Dudes with guns, dudes with melee weapons, turrets, occasional robot.
>>736603274That’s 90% of all vidya
>>736602307Elite dangerous has been doing it for a decade with full size planets
>>736603308Maybe if you only play Ubisoft games.
>>736600636>Still crying about loading screens Why?
>>736593453Searching reviews of this game is frustrating because you have to figure out what is genuine constructive criticism and what is extreme nitpicking, you can't discuss bethesda games in some places because people will cover their ears and go blah blah blah blah it's bad bad bad bad bad
>>736603513You can't understand why no one wants an abundance of loading screens in modern games?
>>736603569it's a very divisive game and highly depends on whether or not you like scifi or not. You can always pirate it since it has no DRM and it's worth a punt if you enjoy scifi, if you vastly prefer fantasy you should be playing crimson desert instead because that game and starfield share similar DNA.
>>736603609With the advent of NVMEs, no, not really. Starfield did have too many, but TESVI having as much as Skyrim wouldn't be bad.
>>736603023They are supposed to have added a ton of new POIs and also changed the generation algorithm so you don't constantly see the same things
>>736603569Its genuinely garbage. >A horribly written story with no conflict or plot development which concluded with you losing all of your progress, you cant even reject the ending even though a huge part of the story is acknowledging that your own universe is as good as it gets>The worst companions of any Bethesda game, they are all identical morally good characters with no controversial, depth or even interesting questlines or interactions>menu spam, you spend as much time in menus as you do playing, its actually insane how many pointless menus there are >Generic combat with brain dead AI, melee is countered by you standing on a box, ranged is countered by peaking a door by 1mm>ZERO choices in any story line with any consequences, only 1 faction (pirates vs navy) has alternative endingsFor a roleplaying game is fucking horrible, I dont think a soul at Bethesda cared about this Todd pet project at all. If you want to play in space, play 4X, Elite or Star Citizen. All of them offer a better experience.
>>736593453>ability to fly between planets withing a star systemso like any other space sim game ever created? wooow
>>736604050Which doesn't actually solve the worst problem around them.POIs are completely static. If you complete a POI and see it again, if you remember it you'll know where every enemy, prop, values and everything is. It's always in the exact same spot.The simple fix is to simply create multiple spawn points and choose a set when the POI spawns allowing for the same POI to be varying, to some degree. Instead the POIs are EXACTLY the same in every regard.
>>736604328Actually not though. Because you still have a loading screen to get to that planet. Even Space Engineers lets you fly down directly.
>Actual starfield shills on the board right nowCan't polish a turd
>>736604365I can still remember my first two PoIs on a moon. It was this shitty little lab with mines outside. Then I did another and got the exact same lab with the EXACT same mine placement.
>>736593453Now THIS is astroturfing
Can anyone stop him?
>>736604285You can opt out of going into unity, they added evil companions so you're not stuck with constellation and you can tweak the difficulty to make the combat really fun. Also a lot of new quests have alternative endings now so you'll make a decision that would result in having completely different events happen. It's one of the best space sciif RPGs ever made and stands up there with Elite, NMS, Space engineers as great space games.
>>736593453>TODD, YOU CRAZY SON OF A BITCH!>YOU DID IT!>YOU BROKE EVERY SINGLE MOD all 15 of them>AGAIN
>>736604645It doesn’t change the fact that the constellation crew are the games primary companions and the ones that have the most reactivity and interaction. Adding a worse alternative doesn’t alleviate the problem.
>>736604945You're right but you're also free to never recruit them or put them on your ship because they're that boring.
>>736604457It's worse than that, everything is the same completely. There is no variation within the same POI at all.I quit the game after 3 of the same POI. The second time is when I realised how badly designed the POIs was. The third was an experiment of remembering the positions and then I finally uninstalled when I knew exactly what props, in what position and rotation was behind a locker.My playtime is 3 hours. The same POI 3 times.
What did he do, hire a even more incompetent bulk of pooshills than usual?
But what about the porn mods?
>>736602548Anon you do realize that the reviews on steam are skewed towards positive since only people who bought (and thus were already into the idea of the game) can review it?50% means 50% of people who assumed they were going to like the game didn't actually like it.It's not 50% of every possible costumer, it's 50% of the people that fell for the marketing.
Confused as to weather this is worth pirating or not. Is this game just fun for a single playthrough, blasting by with some fun missions, things to discover and a decent enough narrative?Just looking to chill out really but it would be nice if it had quality there. I don't care about exploring procedural planets, I'll just do the quests and faction stuff. Worth it for that?
>>736593453Okay, when are they going to fix the main story then?Rehasing Skyrim and making the MC Space Dragonborn was really lame.
>>736607823yeah it's literally oblivion/fo3 in spacewhile it is janky and stupid there are fun things to like about it. just don't look at it too hard or the game's limitations become apparent.
>>736597317...so literally same as every other space game ever?
>>736602304There's also a lack of hand placed items and radiant AI has been 100% removed. NPCs are slightly less static than in TES3. TES4 had the most dynamic and decorated cities from all their games. TES5 was far less but way more than everything after.
>>736596803Yeah if you have 2 5090s
>>736607823Worth it.
Unity shmootiny.
>>736603609With SSDs, the loading screen is likely faster than the 3 second door opening animation
>>736598060>selling point of the updatethe selling point they advertised was that you can fly to other planets out in space, not land on them.
>>736593453I will never launch the game again.
Knowing Todd he'll try to make his jeetgoblins poop out the remake right for Artemis IV
>>736602307>No Man's Sky can fucking do itNah, NMS also does the 'totally not a loading screen' thing by filling your screen with speed lines and rocks.
>>736609793It doesn't even hide it well because even after you get through the notloading screen the entire planet is just a deformed flat blob of 3 colors that are designated colors for the planet for another 5 to 10 seconds before the basic geometry of the world starts to form.
I'm not exaggerating when I say the only thing that made me glance at even pirating Starfield was that Starfield-chan poster a few years ago. But the game is just too dogshit to bother, and there's not even a modding scene.
>>736593453>try it>still fundamentally the same shit gameWhat'd these mongrels do in the name of Todd?
why isn't anyone talking about that crazy SW mod pack
>>736604645No. Nothing you said is remotely true.
>>736593453>this is why we still don't have Fallout 5 or TES6It already takes Bethesda far too long to make a game, but now they're spending even more years beyond the release date of each of their new releases to try and "engooden" the slop that they made. They did it with FO76, and now they're doing it with Shartfield. And yeah, it's nice that they're sticking with these games and developing them BEYOND THE RELEASE DATE into something that's actually playable, but all it's doing is further delaying the games that people actually WANT to play. Where is FO5? Where is TES6? We won't see them until the 2030's at this point while Todd wastes years trying to fix this slop
>>736612883you're just gonna call TES6 and Fo5 "slop" when they release. bethesda is right to ignore you and cater to their loyal fans
>>736594527Peg off instructions (gay)
>>736608550Uhm? Elite Dadgerous?
>>736614679>no ship interiorsnot real space game.
>>736600636People think this is justifiable because these games are the only ones in which you can move a wheel of cheese to a corner and it stays there for the rest of the game
>>736614137>you're just gonna call TES6 and Fo5 "slop" when they releaseIf they continue this modern Bethesda trend of releasing a broken, half-finished game and then spending the next few years engoodening it, then yes, I'll call it slop. You should too. Stop simping for Todd, stop being a good little consumer whore, and call things out for what they are.
>>736614972is there not yet? i havnt played in like 10 years lol i thought they nailed the flying, landing, plants combat, sound design stuff like that, could've used a lot more content but just the basics seemed solid
>>736600620They forgot to make a tranime to go along with it like cyberpunk did. Whatever marketer said to do that should have got a fat bonus
>>736615030But it's so impressive bro. No other open world game does it. It's not just a gimmick whose novelty was lost after the 360 era. Every other open world dev has been making strides towards eliminating loading screens like RDR2's seamless interiors, Spider-Man 2's quick travel and TOTK's overworld layers, but can I put an apple down in those games and still have it be there 3 weeks later? I think not, and that's why Todd is a genius.
>>736600636That's so its compatibile across systems. If youre on a good pc it takes seconds, then it can be modded away
>>736603308> make a space a game > no hot aliens> low variety of alien creatures to fightEven fallout had more interesting creatures
>>736597864they actually addes some new POIs with the free update, don't know if the dlc added new POIs too
I still haven’t received a response from anyone explaining why I should ever play Starfield instead of Fallout 4. They’re basically the same game except Fallout 4 is better and has far more good mods.
>>736609793ok i didn't know and i just wanted to be cool and knowledgeable i admit it
10k people are pissing shidding and farding rn! Todd wins again!
>>736593453>ability to fly between planets within a star system...surely you could this from day 1 since it's the main gimmick of the game
Who is right in this case?
>>736616262whiterun sized villages like akila cities and new atlantis, that is still more than fallout 4better customization of settlements and ships (fallout 4 settlement customization is shit, at least in vanilla)
>>736600285you do know that passable is better than mediocre
>>736607613all carefully broken.
>>736616507You could but it was dreadfully fucking boring and there was NOTHING out there.i was bored and tried the fly from one planet to a nearby neighboring planet to see if you could
>>736616556Settlement customisation in Starfield is far worse. You just have far less objects to build with
I've never seen a less genuine thread in my life and I've been in this hell hole for 20 years
>>736616524>1st space gamevs>Space game fan
>>736616576no, it isn't.
>>736593453so is the game good now?
>>736604285>I dont think a soul at Bethesda cared about this Todd pet projectThey don't because they're all jeets and queers hired by Sarah Bond
>>736593462sooo did they add new POIs or did they just make it so they don't repeat within the same planetary cell? if that's the case then all it means is that there are still only a fucking dozen or so POIs
>>736597317>still need to activate the area trigger through mapchrist, what a bunch of moronsif you're trying to engooden your slop, why not try some basic creativity? make a new interactive menu on the ship console to choose the area beforehand, so your can enter straight to it when you come near the planet
>>736616795read a book sometime
>>736598060>that was the entire selling point of the updateNo it wasn't
>>736597862yeah all we wanted was to save at least the designs of ships. like a blueprint. you can transfer over knowledge through the unity so it makes sense.
>>736593453the first and only pics of media i have seen for this new dlc was a screenshot depicting some black girlboss npc that apprenently lead some militiary factionwoke shit as always. only girlbosses or negros. meanwhile zero cool straight white male characters
>>736600636As long as cities aren't small this is fine
>>736597049All of those. What's the matter? Won't run on your GTX 960? lmao
>>736597317> OMG THERE IS A MAP!The absolute state of Discord.
>>736612883>It already takes Bethesda far too long to make a gameThey take as long as other AAA devs.
>>736593462>new quantum entaglement deviceLiterally the antithesis of the unity and exploration. The entire point was to leave it all behind to find something new. Of adventure. Should've made more ng+ modes instead of this.
>>736594527People of India. At a billion plus, no way there aren't duplicates.
>>736617848That's a overly vague statement anon. Some, yes. Others, no.
>>736609793That's completely fine. Who gives a shit?
>>736604285The romances are also shit.>Sarah morganGoes out of her way to tell you she fucked *a lot* of people before you started dating her>SamA cuckold who's raising the lovechild of his ex-girlfriends affairbaby and his entire relationship quest is about learning to get along with his ex and raise his not-daughter.>BarretGay dude who's entire quest is about missing his husband who died 2 decades ago and getting over him to try and get over you, which is really jarring.>AndrejaOnly semi-normal one. Just a basic ass companion quest.
>>736604397Todd spends more time and effort shilling his game than actually making it good.
I can’t be bothered because halfway through the click to install I remember “spaceborn” and getting a rocket ship and having my ass wiped within the first 30 minutes and realize Bethesda has always been a pretty shit company with a greedy creative team that has overstayed its welcome
>>736618280>That's a overly vague statementNo it isn't. Most AAA games like 4-5 years to make and they've been releasing games within that time frame. They don't take longer than others.
>>736618469The person who wrote the original comment clearly did...
>>736593453And by "it" you mean?
The amount of defenders in this thread is worrying. They are not getting paid but they do not have souls anymore.Terrifying.
>>736618754>Most AAA games like 4-5 years to make This isn't true across the board, but okay, let's go with it. FO76 came out in 2018. We're 8 years away from that right now and FO5 hasn't even been announced yet, which means we almost certainly won't see it for another 3-4 years. That's more than a decade between entries. It's unacceptable and, frankly, unsustainable for the brand. You can't ask fans of a series to wait 10+ years between entries and expect that to be a good long term strategy. Eventually people are just going to give up and move on.
>barely 20kseems like people really are over this game
>>736602307KSP has been doing it on a middleware engine since 2011https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAV4WjfSnH8
I don’t know how to feel about this. Is this [GOOD NEWS] or what?
>>736618618>his entire relationship quest is about learning to get along with his ex and raise his not-daughterwew I dodged a bullet, god the romances suck in shartfield
>>736616524Spore did it better
I know at least 10 of you bought the Saarfield, is it at least worth playing, literally free or otherwise, now that it's been patched or is it a complete waste of bandwidth?
>>736603157That's an improvement. It was 56% just a week ago.
>>736619428Fallout 4 dlc didn’t have better numbers
>>736619719I pirated itNot worth pirating
>>736602708>>736602780>>736602918>>736602959>>736603073One of the funniest cases of goalpost moving I've seen in a while.It's way funnier when the rational person doesn't even insult the goal mover, they just calmly explain their misconceptions and that's all
>>736603064>now weighing 200 GB.thisI'm not buying a new SSD to play your shit todd
Playing the game currently and the music is so shit. Like, wow, it’s almost criminal how bland and uninspired it it. Legitimately tempted to turn it off.
>>736620258Sorry no trap for you zoooom
>>736621198I don’t even like femboys.TES music is superior.
>>736619151>We're 8 years away from that right nowBecause they've been making other games retard. They release new games within a 4-5 year timeframe.
Honestly I've tried to get past 5-6 hours in Starfield at least three times since it first came out. At this point I'm content to just wait for Skyrim 2 or Fallout 5 because at least there you know they're going to overcorrect from Starfield so hard that you won't be able to go 5 seconds without running into some new random bullshit, instead of having to go eight loading screens to bounce around an empty area.
>>736600925THE VIBES ARE REVERTING
>>736621345Jeremy Soule is a nazi bigot chud
>>736593453The update is neat and all, but at the end of the day, it's still Starfield. A lot more has to change at a foundational level in order to consider it an "engoodening".
>>736621438Thats the beauty of space
>>736619151It's wild that they can't release games by any reasonable metrics anymore. And todd's only excuse is they've been making fallout 76, despite that being done by bethesda austin, not maryland. Bethesda took like a decade to make starfield and it was shit. and they're nowhere near elder scrolls and they've lost most of the developers who made the originals, so all they got is the starfield devs.
>>736594527Poo On Indialand
You know a Beth game is shit when it's been close to 3 years and there's still no porn mods.
Space western / retro-futurism is the worst scifi subgenre. Firefly unironically destroyed all creativity in the genre in popular culture
>>736612540I tried it a year ago and it's pretty damn fun. But under the cool new stuff, it's still Saarfield at the core. I'll probably reinstall whenever the mod gets updated.
>>736594527POI!
>>736621389The opportunity cost is my entire point, retard. Bethesda is already slow in making games, then they spend 5+ years making slop that no one wants like Starfield, then they spend another 5+ years trying to engooden it, and that's pushing their other games that people want to play, like Fallout, into a release schedule of more than a decade between games. If they can't handle their workload, they should be licensing out some of these IPs. If Starfield really is Todd's passion project and he wants to spend the next 5 years engoodening it, then hire someone else to make Fallout because 10+ years between installments is crazy
>>736621983Lmao if SAARfield is Todd passion project then I'm the president of america
>>736619719I preordered the $100 edition because I'm a huge autist that likes to immerse in Bethesda worlds. Probably my worst vidya related purchase ever.
>>736621680>Skyrim to Fallout 4: 4 years>Fallout 4 to Fallout 76: 3 years>Fallout 76 to Starfield: 5 yearsNothing unreasonable here
>>736621983No you're entire point was it takes too long for them to make games and you're wrong. They take the same amount of time as most AAA studios do you fucking retard, see >>736622304
>>736622076Pretty sure he said that somewhere. Starfield only exists because it was the game that Todd really wanted to make
>>736622304>Nothing unreasonable hereFallout 76 was made by bethesda austin you inbred shill, bethesda maryland makes the mainline elder scrolls and fallout games. And the last game they made before starfield was fallout 4.
>>736602507This is how games should be.Starfield is for me.DEI pandering aside, surveys show that black and trans communities just don't get Starfield - it's incomprehensible to them - and that's great.
>>736622421You're going to try and tell me what my own point is? lol. If you're a Fallout fan, you're looking at more than a decade between games, in part because Bethesda takes a long time to make games, and in part because they waste years on shit like Starfield. I can't make it any more simple for you than that, retard.
>>736617353Both.
>>736621708If not for the soi wars total conversion I kept seeing get shilled for a little while I would’ve assumed there were no mods.
>Emillslop >Saarfield
>>736617353Initially there seemed to only be one version of most dungeons regardless. Like the cryo lab always used the same lab, with the same radiant quest inside of all the machinery failing.
Starfield bros...
>>736623316
>>736616262unlike Fo4, you dont have to mod RPG elements into starfield, as it has bethesda's best character creator, which allows for actual roleplaying (ex. if you dont pick a background with piloting skills, you simply cant fly a ship and you have to be ferried everywhere or be stranded). it also has the best dialogue/persuasion system BGS has ever done. additionally, starfield does space piracy like no other game - the process of destroying a ship's grav drive, then disabling the ship with EM weapons, then boarding it and going room to room, clearing enemies and fighting to the bridge in zero-G is incredibly satisfying and more smoothly implemented than any other game i can think of. all that being said, i am 100% a mod guy and do recommend them. for instance there is a gore mod that adds some much-needed teeth to the setting (large-calibre weapons can decap, blood violently vents from bullet holes in spacesuits and sprays across walls etc)
>>736622751And to be honest, I'm being quite charitable in counting from FO76 instead of FO4. Many people, myself included, don't even really consider FO76 to be a real FO game since it's more of a multiplayer spin off developed by the Austin team. There's a reason it's not called FO5. So in reality, we're already more than a decade since the last real FO game (FO4 released in 2015), and again, FO5 isn't even on the horizon yet. There is no defense for this
>>736622751>in part because Bethesda takes a long time to make gamesThey as long as most AAA devs, you are wrong and retarded. 4-5 years for a AAA game isn't long.
>>736623316man any game with flight assist off is just heaven for joystick fags like me.
>>736622515>Fallout 76 was made by bethesdaYeah, it was. Faggot.
>>736619027Based, don't give an inch. No matter what they do to the game, reiterate that it's 100% unfettered dogshit. That way Todd might give up and work on the brands I want, like fallout and elder scrolls, god I can't wait Todd pump me full of your sloppa already
>>736623570FTL kino.
>>736623682>if you dont pick a background with piloting skills, you simply cant fly a ship and you have to be ferried everywhere or be strandedEvery character can pilot the most basic ships, the whole intro sequence is all about learning to pilot a ship to fly to Abo City. Piloting skill is only needed to unlock heavier ships and more advanced maneuvers like strafing or turning without decelerating.
>Meanwhile no mans skyhttps://x.com/NoMansSky/status/2041863628002095493They really love taking the piss out of starfield
>Piloting skill is only needed to unlock heavier ships and more advanced maneuvers like strafing or turning without decelerating.Jesus Christ. It's like not able to turn a wheel in GTA without unlocking license.
>>736608550>>736614972If that's your criteria then Star Citizen is the only space gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWm_OhIKms8
>>736624553NMS has ship interiors.
>>736602323You can artificially keep shit alive with micro update for generation it won't make it good.
>>736624592Can you install sex mods and have space sex in NMS ships?
>>736623813We've been over this already. I'm not going to keep going around in circles with you. Feel free to re-read the thread at your leisure if you need a refresher on why your misrepresentation of my point is wrong
>>736624416>when i raise my skill at something, i get better at it?!
>>736624994Those "advanced maneuvers" are basic movement.You don't need to learn a skill to turn a wheel after unlicking skill to drive a car. It is pretty stupid.
>>736625162You can turn without piloting skill but it will automatically brake. The skill allows you to turn while going full speed. Flying without the skill is similar to a woman's driving skills, you can perform basic tasks at residential zone speed limits.
>>736624553X4 has ship interiors. Mostly cosmetic though.
>>736625162I imagine flying a spaceship is harder than turning a wheel in a car. Like flying a drone is harder than flying a car, and that's even with all the shit the drone automatically does for you nowadays. You can see the difference in skill between a great jet pilot and a beginner, I imagine the same would apply to spaceships. Go try space engineers, where the controls require a bit more nuance.
>>736624553Starfield has ship interiors.
>>736625530It would be much more easier to fly a spaceship than a jet in settings like a Starfield desu. There is no atmosphere and counter trusting will be handled by flying assist on all axis. The most dangerous parts as landing and docking will be handled by automation too. At worst computer will calculate exact speed, angles and how much you need to push you rudder or stick to reach them.
>>736602323>outlived >4 single player gamesGaaS really fried your faggot zoomer brains hard
>>736604050> generation algorithmhow about... I don't know, making it themself ?
>>736600636Every game has loading screens. This is the gayest, most forced meme complaint ever to throw at a game.
>>736600620Bots started posting negative reviews with the exact same copypasted statements from release just days before the update. You faggots really think people won't notice.
>>736601404>wtf earth evacuated due to the atmosphere depleting but why didn't every citizen of earth segregate like my hunter s thompson race war novels?!?!?!
watching dansgaming play it and literally nothing has changed. i think they added some real lowest effort tier shit . a garbage can robot companion, used existing models to add "toy figurines" like a fallout collectable , and i havent seen it yet, but im guessing they just added enemies with vosco's model and animationsits really the lowest effort shit so far, nothing has improved
>>736593453I never doubted you, Todd!
>Shitposters desperately trying to pretend shartfield is good to make people waste moneydon't believe it
>>736625371not really, only the cockpit
>>736604285>he didn't actually play the game>he's still posting his opinion on itOver half the main story alone is about conflict with the starborn you disingenuous fucking cock gargler.
>>736598060not once did they say there was going to be seamless landings in the update
>>736626969Starfield is single-player too
Shattered space was unironically better than this dlc. The guns and armour are nice but the story felt completely lackluster.
What's the opposite of go woke go broke because Starfield is massively successful and it isnt woke either.
>>736629598really? you are playing it?shattered space was so fucking bad it killed my desire to keep playing, it really is the worst writing worst dialog everything was so badplaying ESO has better writing and quests even better voice acting
>>736593453I actually really enjoy Starfield. It isn't perfect, I got my personal issues with it. But with these updates, I might consider buying it. Do you think the mods will get any better, will it have a resurgence?
>>736607613I don't think starfield had any?
>>736629981depends on the kinda mods you want because there are enough mods out there that add extra content like Kinggath or tweak the gameplay and give you extra loot
Can we all agree at least that Starfield has absolutely goated gun combat?
>>736629598They did say it was going to be a smaller DLC but I didn't think it would be beatable in just a few hours. Ah well at least got it on rutracker. I'm still waiting for updated engine fixes and some decent replacement for inventory and crafting bench UI.
>>736630271I mean, it's basically just Fallout 4. Of course it's decent.
>>736630271Yeah, they got ID software to help with the gunplay and it feels really good.
Starfield is the one game I will accept DLSS5 for. Also I played the game on GamePass and wanted to get it on Steam now with this update but it’s not on sale. Why?
>>736629629lmao
>>736630393wait for the next steam sale
>>736630259Mostly gameplay. My biggest issue was how many loading screens there was and repetitive POI's. I will take a look through Nexus mods, see what's going on there and take it from there. Thanks fren.
>>736630478a lot of modders moved to the bethesda creation store due to nexusmods faggotry, you should check it out there as well. You can pirate creations on cs.rin.ru, there's a mediafire link to all the creations.
>>736629629It is woke in the sense that it's sterile design-by-numbers corporate shit.And it may have sold massive numbers, but it's a critical failure.
>>736630271Morrowind had better gun combat.
>>736630543shit, I didn't knowWell, if I got to keep pirating, might as well just stick to it then kek
>>736630393They just reduced the price across all platforms to match the PS5 price. It was 70 bucks, now it's 50. The premium edition with battle pass used to be 90, it's 70 now.
>>736603362To be fair, dropping out of supercruise is basically a loading screen.
>>736630547>no mass layoffs>game is still getting updated with content and DLC for the next few years>is currently the 2nd best selling PS5 game It's okay they'll keep improving the game instead of abandoning it like every other dev.
>>736630662Looking at these threads I really understand why devs force players to squeeze through a crack or wait on a long-ass elevator rideIt's just a shame when you have a fast ssd and get forced to console speeds because of retards
>>736624994Turning without changing speed is the basic fucking physics of space movement. I will not play any space combat in any games if I am required to fly my ship in "WW2 dogfighting mode" and not 6DOF.I can only strain my suspension of disbelief so far: sub-10km engagements at sub-1000m/s? Fine. But if I can only fly forward, and worse, have to hold the acceleration/thrust key to keep my "speed" up, then you can fuck off.
>>736625610but it's not seamless
>>736630547>It is woke in the sense that it's sterile design-by-numbers corporate shit.It's woke in the sense that it's woke. I played through it several times, and I can verify the game is woke as fuck.>No pale fair skin for white kids in base game>need a mod to have actual white kids>closest to white kids in base game is swarthy white kids looking tanned>meaning all white families with a kid have a brownish kid and two white parents>most notably sam coe the companion with his white ex and black daughter cora>another family in akila city, the iirc jensens have a brown daughter and theyre both white.>almost all leaders in game are either women or brown>the head of trackers guild is nonbinary and tells you in conversation>The creator of constellation is a black man>the completion of the uc questline has you kill terrormorph and if you choose "wrong" all your companions dislike it, you lose relationship points and sarah demands to know why you didn't trust the science>almost everyone in the game is brown, especially in cities.>one of the companions, dany, is non-binary or transgender>barrets entire quest is helping the gay black man get over his dead husbandJust off the top of my head too.
Despite alot of good mods not working I am enjoying the new updatehttps://youtu.be/Zuik7wrSS_U?si=Hv7M7EbjPoEbutSe
>>736612883>Where is TES6? We won't see them until the 2030's at this point while Todd wastes years trying to fix this slopThey have explicitly stated they weren't even gonna start elder scrolls until they were "Finished with" starfield. Depending on how you interpret that, that could mean when it released like 2 years ago; now, because they just shipped what could be the last major update; or it could mean they haven't started it yet at all because they aren't "finished with" starfield until some unspecified point in the future.The literal best case scenario for TES6's release is 2030, roughly 6 years after they released starfield, and probably rushed out the ass. (Starfield took a literal decade from start to release, 12 years if you count until now, so that isn't outside the realm of possibility for TES6, but I am just assuming microsoft will tell them to get it out the door as quick as possible)That means the best possible case scenario for TES6 will be 19 years after skyrim's release. You could be born after skyrim released, become legal adult, start college, etc, all in the time it took for them to release the next elder scrolls game. 5 years longer than the famously mocked Duke Nukem Forever took to get released.Now what a worst case scenario?Lets assume they start development of TES6 today, and take the same roughly 10 years it took for them to develop starfield to develop TES6. That would mean a release of 2036. Twenty-Five goddamn years, a quarter of a century. 30% of the average human's lifespan. Let me tell you, it better be fucking good if they take that long.
>>736636370>Let me tell you, it better be fucking good if they take that long.You still have hope. That's delightful.
>>736636525I lost any hope for a new elder scrolls game to be good when they released skyrim. I am under no delusions that TES6 will be worth caring about. At this point I am just ready to watch the train wreck as it happens.
>>736634286>/pol/ crying about inane nonsense>>736612883>waaah release TES6 NOW so I can call it shit and cry about fake issues like loading screens and pretend skyrim was a good game intead
>>736593462The way he's writting sounds like shilling
>>736602187The number of unique POI at launch was not actually that high. They had a limited number of actual layouts, the proc gen customized the set dressing to force different paths through them. Seeing 2 abandoned research stations wouldnt have been that bad if they weren't exactly the same except the overturned tables were blocking the door on the left instead of the right.
>>736636887It's the duplicated personal notes in these points of disinterest that really got my goat.
>>736593453>>736593462>>736593553Least obvious Shitesda shill thread
>>736598060TORtanic spergs literally just making shit up this board is trash
>>736594527Person of Interest
>>736634286>>the head of trackers guild is nonbinary and tells you in conversationThis one isn't as bad as it sounds. The creatura explains that every leader of trackers has to fully anonymize for safety reasons. It's pretty similar to undercover cops wearing scramble suits in A Scanner Darkly.
>>736630547>And it may have sold massive numbers, but it's a critical failure.LMFAAAAAOOOOOOOh, you.
>>736636752>waaah my parents are looking forward to my funeral and I must cope
buy an ad
Steam store screenshot from the new DLC. Why can't they make normal looking characters for once. They look absolutely hideous, what the fuck. I don't care about muh culture war. I just want good games again.
>>736593453have they removed the constant loading screens? that's what drove myself and many others away from the game.
>>736640993Armada is space somalis?
>>736593453Astroturfing again
>>736615407Unironically better than the crap you mentioned
>shattered space was considered a massive failure and embarrassment>they shut their fucking mouths for an year and some change>their new dlc can't even reach the heights of shattered spaceso are they going to leave this game for dead or keep dragging it around like the proverbial dead albatross around their necks?
>>736598008Map isn't the point. The goal is to be able to land on planets without going through a loading screen or a cutscene.
>>736641552Depends on what reddit and reddit-approved youtubers have to say about the update. Todd is a redditor.
>>736593453Did they get rid of that ugly middle-aged bitch that you're forced to accept as your girlfriend?
>>736615407>>736641380Starfield threads are the only place where /v/ will ask for ubislop
>>736593462>Fallout 3 has 200 endings!!>Starfield has 200 POIs!!
>>736643470Fallout 3 did have 200+ endings exactly how Todd described them, as tiny variations based on previous choices in a modular cinematic ending cutscene. That this "lie" has persisted for 20 years shows how retarded bethesdrones are.
>>736593453Damn shilling for this turd has got to be humiliating. Absolutely no one is falling for your bullshit hahahaha
>>736641894You specifically have to initiate a romance, bro
>>736597317>They never said this would be a feature.Trannies desperately trying to push "Todd's Lie" cope.
>>736616793So the same problem they have with RPGs.
>>736623570That game is still a broken mess.Fun fact, you can still wedge yourself through the fans in the prison without shutting them off and never get a bounty, they never actually fixed it, you just can't really do it as easily because the game used to run way worse, making it easy to phase through the fan.
>>736623316I really wish this game actually had competently designed combat.The only real meta there is now is just fast ships circle straffing with missiles and lasers until you're out of CMs.Really needs a rework so larger ships are actually viable in combat.They also need to finally figure out aerodynamics in atmosphere, feels stupid as hell floating around in a strike fighter that can just strafe about a few meters off the ground, in atmo should require constant forward momentum to stay airborne unless it's a ship specifically designed for it.
Doomers well and truly blown the fuck out.
>>736623316>Crash and die>Can't just get back in ship, have to pay insurance.>need to do chores/suck dicks in an alley before you can use you're ship again.
>>736621708you must not be looking very hard...
>>736597317Loading screens are barely even noticeable with an SSD I don't get it
>>736643863That's actually pretty respectable for a patch, also it's on PS5 now (best seller for this month) so there's a ton more players.You lost.
>>736593453>release major update>it breaks inventory UI mods>making the game unplayable for most of the audience
>>736644640I hear browns are still using HDDs.
>>736641172You can slowly fly to other locations within the same system now. But it's worse than loading screens as I always knew it would be, even if it had been implemented well.
I mean the stupid car got another 100 hours out of me, I'm enjoying this patch quite a bit.
>>736644730How is it worse than loading screens?
>>736636525Now there's the look of a man who checked Trivago
>>736644772it's slower and more tediousmaybe there are people who get off on the immersion of it, but it's not really implemented well enough for that either
>>736644820So what you're saying is that space games are better when you can just fast travel?
I will forever be pissed off that they didn't make Walter a full companion. The only character in Constellation that I actually like.
did they add a companion that isn't a lawful stupid paladin who lectures me every time I wipe my nose on the tablecloth?
>>736645361Yes, a long time ago.
I always did enjoy Starfield
>>736644864Not really. I just think Starfield is too heavily designed around fast travel to ever fix it. You do too much hopping around the system.I'd rather wait through a 5 second loading screen than go through the hassle of flying every time.
Clearly this kind of game is a pipe dream and every single attempt is destined to be a miserable failure, so why doesnt anyone take a fraction of these kinds of budgets and instead make a good game like this thats just fucking 2d pixel slop and actually do it right instead of blowing 500 billion dollars 3d scanning the faces of the niggerest niggers in Zimbabwe for "realism"Oh right because retarded slop guzzling normgroid niggers love buying trash if it even pretends to have good graphics
>>736645564I agree, fast travel is better. Flying between planets in NMS had me falling asleep.
>>736593453Fucks sake I thought this was for Star Citizen, back to my hole.
>>736598008So what is the point of flying to a planet instead of just doing the loadscreen in the first place to not waste your time?>muh realismOh so this simulates gravity or fuel usage in any meaningful way? But then youre still just wasting your time even more because now youre wasting fuel even if that were trueThis is so retarded
>>736600093This is the fundamental problem with this shit. This game was designed with space as NOTHING but a cheap gimmick that was completely ignored when it came to actual gameplay. Now that they realize how shitty that is they try to throw some pointless slop in which ultimately cant be worth a shit because either you completely change the fundamentals of the game by doing real hard work of game design and programming and upset a lot of people by making it challenging in a completely different way than it was, or you just throw in some utterly pointless avoidable slop for people to larp with
>>736643396Your crimson desert threads?
>>736643863Thanks for the screencap, now I get to repost it to show off how much better starfield is compared to 99% of other games steamcharts.
>>736608550pretty sure I can go from group to space in No Man's Sky without going through the map.The map means I can't hover in Lower orbit looking at the planet's giant sites
>>736645681Now imagine a game where you actually have to plot courses and pilot the ship while managing fuel all while having the threat of pirates attack you in arachic zones, or having the freedom to smuggle goods and having to avoid security checks. Imagine an actual fucking space game not some retarded inventory management crap or some rpg with space lazily slapped on in the most superficial way possible
>>736646069Yeah that's starfield, all of that is in the game.
>>736593453https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijbpJ1qz1AwAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BETHESDA DRONES WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING
>>736640993>post normal human characters>complain???Are you expecting them to look like anime characters?
>>736597254No
>>736646154the cool part is how every planet moves in it's own orbit and has it's own gravity so you can slingshot your ship from a planet to another planet with faster speed if you wanted to. That's bethesda's attention to detail for you.
>>736646114If thats true at all its only in the most hamfisted and superficial way that could possibly be imagined
Absolutely none of the patches have fixed the fundamental problems with the game or made it fun to play.
>>736646257>Your ship has limited amount of fuel so you'd have to plot a course on how to get to certain trade planets with enough jumps to get there>pirates will attack you inbetween jumps in certain zones and now in cruise mode as well>when you arrive at a UC or Freestar collective planet, they will scan your ship your contrabands goods which you have to hide>have to get through security checks if you have certain contrabands just to enter a city to get to at traderYeah it's all in starfield
>>736644678Last DLC got to 60k and that was a big flop. 20k is legitimately embarrassing.
>>736646537It's okay they got PS5 gamers buying enough copies for it to make it into the top and we're gonna see more content in the coming years so starfield will always be around.
>>736646597lmao
>>736646632We're in year 2 of starfield and they already announced they're working on year 3 and plan to support it for 8 more years.
>>736645361Yeah, they added an amoral robot with the new DLC. Also you always had the choice of using that edgelord snake worshipper.
>>736646154>bethesda's attention to detail for younigga, those are floating images
>>736646676Oh i'm sure Todd is going to keep throwing money at this turd because it's very likely the last Bethesda release he'll be alive for
>>736646597It didn't even chart on the PS Store.
>>736646778It's the difference between a passion project and soulless slop the rest of the AAA industry pumps out.
>>736646352I tried my best to play it over the last 24 hours but holy fuck it simply is not a good game. I spend more time in menus and loading screens than actually playing, and the 'playing' part is walking down 2x2 corridors and shooting at people then walking into 3x3x2 rooms and looting bodies and one big yellow chest. The space combat is even worse, sit still and just DPS dump on a ship. The only part of the game that is fun at all is the Zero G and its so fucking rare it doesn't make it worth playing this game.
>>736646796it's #9 on the best sellers list
Bethesda is the last of the great Western Auteur canon. they deserve a 2nd chance
>>736640993>Black WomanIts that South Park episode all over again lol
>>736646867Truly the gun and ball console
Todd you fucking freak you actually fixed the game. I’m having a blast!I lied. I don’t have the game. Can someone buy it for me please.
>>736646429>Your ship has limited amount of fuel so you'd have to plot a course on how to get to certain trade planets with enough jumps to get thereid guarantee plotting courses has nothing to do with navigating gravitational forces or even asteroids, its basically as deep as an indie game from 15 years ago>pirates will attack you inbetween jumps in certain zones and now in cruise mode as welli bet its indiscriminate of where you are, what you're doing, what your ship has, just random spontaneous attacks for no reason and no way to get out of them besides fight or at best pay some small fee>>when you arrive at a UC or Freestar collective planet, they will scan your ship your contrabands goods which you have to hidewhat, in space? and what if you have something?>>have to get through security checks if you have certain contrabands just to enter a city to get to at tradernot space
Whenever I think about starfield I just remember how fucking insane it was that they released melee in the state it was in at launch. Melee couldn't use the crafting system at all and your best weapons did like 20 damage when guns were doing 200 damage because the entire gear system revolved around upgrading you weren't finding higher level weapons you were finding upgraded versions of weapons.
>>736646867>#9 for the first day it comes to that consolebro your mother wouldn't even put that achievement on her fridge
>>736646848>I spend more time in menus and loading screens than actually playingthis is every game made after 2020 that seemed cool. all style zero substance. just inventory management dressed up with high resolution scans of the most zimbabwean nigger who ever lived
>>736647236my mother is proud of me no matter what, i hope yours is too.
>new update? mite be fun>check rutracker>200GByeah nah, I'm good
>>736647152pirate it bro
>>736647289my parents aren’t proud of me, and they don’t even know the shit I’ve done and continue to do. can you buy me the game so I can make them proud?
>>736593453did the fix space combat? I really liked the shipbuilding but it got pointless real fast.
>>736647415just pirate it bro
>>736647441Depends on what you mean fixed because they added space travel between planets so you can fly there now. You can tweak space combat so it's harder and more fun too.
>>736647340It's 141 without language packs and extras like the soundtrack and artbook.
>>736607613Starfield has less mods than Fallout...literally JUST franchise
>>736647518I mean the "bigger is better" and only one weapon worth using which really stunted what kind of ships you can build
>>736645873The point would be going from POI to POI between planets but historically the kinds of brain dead redditors that play space games always complain thats unrealistic (its not, at the point of a space faring civilization solar systems will fill up with stuff very quickly) and annoying (space trucker dads hate it when their marvel comics fan podcast gets interrupted with gameplay.) TL;DR Space games are a forever cursed genre because the people that play them are boring gigasoi retarded millennials who get the games they fucking deserve.
>>736647931>the point of a space game is skipping the space to do the actual gameplay and by that i mean the exact same gameplay in nearly every other regular game
>>736648121Nigger faggot.
>>736593453So does this game has any interesting lore or creepy locations?
>>736645873you're travelling through space. there's literally NOTHING there. what kind of gameplay do you even want out of that, the 500 million years button?
>>736646027Using NMS as an example of a supposedly good spaceship mechanics is odd. NMS is a chore simulator, and driving space submarines is just another chore.
>>736643702There were only 29 video segments for the ending so it wasn't even close to 200 if you try to think of it that way.
>>736603110>>736603073they added a cooldown to repeating pois so you go substantially longer now without encountering a repeat. i think they also added some new ones, not sure how many.
Did they do any gameplay/ weapon balances?
I won’t pirate the game because I want to make my parents proud. Pirating is stealing. So unless someone buys me the game I will be unable to see how Todd did it this time.
>>736646027>>736648493But then, Starfield is pretty much Todd's "we have NMS at home", which makes all comparisons with NMS valid.>>736647931Well, yes, NMS did exactly that. You have to farm repetitive POIs to progress through higher-level goals, be it looking for a spaceship you want, doing the Atlas quest, learning languages, and so on. Which turns the game into an unpaid desk job.
>>736648720bwo i'm a literal half-jeet (brahmin caste at least) and I have the special editionare you from brazil?
>>736629629>niggers all around atlantis
>>736646235Don't play with things that aren't yours.
>reinstall starfield to try new update>make character, they/them>try my best to stay awake in this god awful boring shitty ass intro >alt f4Does starfield have alternate start mod? You can't pay me to sit through the worst dogshit tier intros I've ever seen
>>736597317
>>736617445There is. Since the beginning of the game there has been. It's one of the HABS you can place on your ship.
>>736595236Definitely NOT shit
>>736648840I am a full jeet and not Brahmin. Please understand sir.
>>736648810No mans sky isn't a space game its a crafting autism skinnerbox. When you take something like space salvage, where the gameplay is self evident in the process, reduce it to token collection stand ins for any danger or actual mechanics like in NMS, you're just making a parody of a caricature of a game. Its frustrating because a proper space game should practically write itself and all we get is either edgy adult bingbingwahoo like ED/SC or toddler bingbingwahoo like NMS/Starfield.
>>736649980How is E:D edgy? Its setting is even more generic than Starfield which is an accomplishment
that ship sailed long agoi have no interest in your game now lol
>Could have just taken place on one planet with space combat/stations/zero g around that planet>Would have been fine, Bethesda could have filled that easily >Instead went with an entire solar system Idiots, idiots and morons.
>>736630271No? Are you fucking kidding?
>>736622992God I wish Elite was good.
>>736593453the ennothinging of nothing
>>736597317>People actually defending thisWhy? Fucking Elite Dangerous did it almost a decade ago. Why are you making exceptions for Bethesda? A billion dollar company. Are you all paid shills or genuinely shit-eating retards?
>>736650107Delusional, the seething would have been far stronger. Bethesda's whole brand and appeal is based on having giant worlds where you can go anywhere, not being tight and focused. If they made a space game where you could only travel between a few preset zones on the planet, they would be a laughingstock.Even if it would be a better game, which is likely
Wasn't this game meant to be a sandbox for modders? Are there even any cool city/quest/companion mods?
>>736649980>toddler bingbingwahoo like NMSIt's funny because just today they released an update containing a fuckin pokemon-style battle system for pets.Somehow in the ten years since release they have managed to do nothing but add features nobody gives a fuck about, then also ceasing to give a fuck about those features. I bet the spacejanny garbage hauling isn't going to receive an update ever again.
>>736650260>Bethesda's whole brand and appeal is based on having giant worlds where you can go anywhere, not being tight and focused.Bethesda are known for the complete opposite you stupid fucking retard.
>>736650260>Bethesda's whole brand and appeal is based on having giant worlds where you can go anywhere, not being tight and focusedAre you kidding? The whole reason their games work is that they're mostly linear open worlds for low IQ munching retards.
>>736650024Its just a first person warcrime simulator at its core, which is the only realistic thing about it and its only redeeming quality.
>>736593462How did they combat thisDid they just remove cloned areas or make new ones to replace them
>>736650318They're just testing features for their next game.
>>736650384>>736650413Are these bot posts? Skyrim was famous for giving people an endless amount of samey draugr dungeons to explore in any order. Their games are not linear at all. That's why they need so much level scaling and leveled lists. Beyond Skyrim there's Oblivion and its copy paste ruins, and Daggerfall which stretched the bounds of procgen to the point of unplayability. Their whole thing has been open worlds that let you just wander around
>>736650448I assume they added new POIs and logic checks to keep a POI from being generated if it was already generated recently.
>>736650184elite shiterous is garbage and starfield is kino tho
>>736597317Its amazing Starfield costed alot of money to make
>>736650448They added 30% more POI's, and then changed cooldown logic of when and how POI's spawn, so actually in theory you can still get duplicates but it tries to minimize it as much as possible.
>>736644687that's usually how mods go, yeah. whenever cdred popped out a Cyberpunk update it broke most mods and required both the core foundation mods to be updated and then maybe the individual mods themselves needed updated, too. meanwhile some stuff is simple enough to never break
>Finish mission>New mission >Press map>Takes me to local map>Press tab>Planet map>Press tab>System map>Press tab>Galaxy map>Click new system>Click planet in system>Cant click new planet, not enough fuel>Click slightly closer planet in different system>Hold X>Loading screen>Open map>Galaxy map>Click actual quest planet>Arrive at planet>Click map>Go to planet>Click PoI on planet>Now at PoI
>>736594527POI
>>736597317>Imagine still falling for Todd's lies in 2026I don't think anyone is genuine in this thread. No ones going back to the game cause they never bought it in the first place.
NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A POWERFUL F*#KING WOMAN
>>736655205It's one of the most successful and popular games of the generation, a lot of people own the game.
>>736655205I bought it on release. Morbid curiosity. And I'm someone who has always thought of Bethesda games as shit. It was even more shit than I thought it would be. I'm sure as shit not going to reinstall it now, because I don't think it's any less shit than before lmao
>>736655280>Those games in the top 10My brain hurts.
>>736655280and yet fails to get even half the player base of skyrim. Shitfield really aint going nowhere.
>>736655359it's okay it'll get more players when it keeps getting updates in the coming years.
starfield is mystifying, it's like a space shooter with rpg elements designed entirely by a HR department full of middle-aged women who spent their whole lives in a finger-wagging type of jobs
>>736655745It's mystifying because a space shooter with RPG elements should not be able to fail to such an utter extent at everything it tries to do. It should either have great, fun gameplay or interesting writing, exploration and atmosphere. Starfield has NOTHING about it that is good.
>>736648851Fuck you, I'll touch that child's balls and you can't stop me!
>>736655745proof that old white males shouldnt be making games anymore, they're washed up.
>>736616524they are both correct. there are multiple things you can do in the game and they are all bad and boring.
>>736594527Piece Of shIt
Reviews about the ps5 or '''''2.0''''' version say absolutely nothing clear about this game and it's sus as fuck
>>736646179Do you like that black woman that looks like a man with super short hair type of character - that shit is ugly. This is the product of several hundred devs with almost unlimited resources. Get the fuck outta here. I'm sick and tired of the horrible characters. This character type has been overused way too much in the last years. At this point making a blonde woman or a redhead with long hair would actually break these devs, they would bluescreen in real life.
>>736604397considering Todd himself has been shilling games since the Usenet days I could totally see him being here in this thread right now shilling his piece of shit
lol nobody cared
>>736645741it's what No Man's Sky fags have been complaining about since that game does it
Low bar to pass but I enjoyed Starfield's shooting so much more than Cyberpunk 2077's, even after the loot rework in CP.
>>736646235That's clearly a foul though
>>736650260I think the point is that they could've made a continuous overworld.I don't really agree since on a planet scale that'd still mean lots of shitty procedurally generated terrain but I agree with the sentiment.
/v/ really does hate good games like starfield, expedition 33, crimson desert, baldur's gate 3, KCD2, CP2077, Elden ring, Armored Core VI, Resident evil and etc
>>736658852>baldur's gate 3, KCD2, CP2077,shit
>>736658851whats the point of a space game when you're stuck on a planet?
>>736593453>>736593462Half assedly, just like everything that Bethesda does.
>>736648494If there's 29 segments that means there's over 200 combinations.
Why is /v/ so tsundere over bethesda
>>736646676>8 yearsSo that's at best two more updates that half-assedly put in one thing that should have been there at launch along with some other irrelevant crap nobody asked for
>>736659228it means more starfield threads on /v/ for the next decade, isnt that exciting?
>>736655298You're a fucking retard in every way possible, even ones that contradict each other, got it
Starfield is a good lesson to devs to just focus on making good games and people will buy it and talk about it for years to come.
>>736659228i do find Bethesda's obsession on pushing those stupid Funk-O pops to be bizarre. Nobody asked for those stupid toys in-game much less in reality (yeah they're actually gonna sell Starfield toys.) Maybe Emil asked.
>>736655815You've never played it>>736656143My poor brown friend, you're practically quoting Stockton Rush, and you can't get much more "washed up" than that
emil should be fired
>>736658852Nice try attempting to sneak in Starfield to that list, brownoid
