>Takes 35% of all your profit>Heh, nothing personal kid
>>736596005Yeah. Parasite. Don't post him.
They forbid developers from selling their game elsewhere for a lower price, I think this is the shittiest thing they do
35% of nothing is still nothing.
>>736596005I'm no dev fag so this benefits me
>>736596005but I'm not a dev
>>736596005You earned it, Gabe :)
>>736596005Nice try, Tim
>>736596091Tim Cain?
>>736596005You are more than welcome to sell your game in your own website and take care of all the payment processing, returns, customer service, downloads, etc.
>>736596005The only thing I don't like about steam is their review system for games with loli/shota/whatever taboo stuff in it.Literally, if you fuck up, they will just not let you put your game on the store anymore, period. No do-overs.Even with the credit card companies breathing down their necks, that's really fucked up of them.
It's like renting space in a shopping centre. Cope.
>>736596005Have you tried uploading your game to the Timmy Games Store?
>>736596107You're asking Communists to work.
>>736596005not my problem
>>736596005Nobody is forcing you to put your game at the platform tard.
>>736596034But Humble bundle, GoG, Ebin etc. have better deals sometimes.
>>736596005>Takes 35% of all your profitthey take 40% of your profit? thats so disgraceful they take 45% of your profit, they really shouldn't be able to take 50% of your profit
>>736596034Only if you're using their infrastructure to distribute keys on their store.If you're just selling your game without relying on steam keys, you can sell it for .50cents for all valve cares.
>>736596005>*stays private*>"heh, nothing personnel jew."Oy vey.....
how come steamies turned out to be worse than consolefags?
>>736596034Even if that was true, the solution is the easiest thing in the world - simply don't sell your game on Steam at all.
>>736596136Based. Pedos should suffer.
>>736596634Oy vey
>>736596005Just sell your game elsewhere if you don't think it's a fair deal.
>>736596107I understand why indie games dont do this since its a lot of work but I've never seen bigger studios take advantage of this.
>>736596005he should take 50%, devs are too uppity
>>736596005Just sell it for 35% more what's the problem?
>>736598461ubisoftblizzard riotfactoriostar sector
>>736596005It starts at 30%, and goes down to 20% once you make enough in revenue. It doesn't even take that many sales to get there. The 30% cut is there to mitigate the risk they're taking by offering all the features of Steam and near-perpetual hosting to niche and unproven games. A publisher like EA clears the threshold in minutes and essentially pays a $300,000 fee to Valve before getting automatically upgraded to a slightly better deal than Xbox and PlayStation offer. And at the same time, a small indie developer can still make plenty of money on a surprise hit, and they even get rewarded for doing well.Valve minimizes its risk for being willing to take a chance on every WEGslop game, indie clicker game and shitty gimmick by making them share a bigger cut of what little they sell, and the big publishers who can afford to eat the cost end up subsidizing the rare indie successes that change lives and push the industry forward.
>>736596005make your own storefront then
>>736598461plenty of devs sell via their own website as well without any commissions, like path of exile devs, or warframe, not to mention big publishers with their own shitty launchers
>>736596034If they didn't have that policy then everyone would just use Steam as an advertising platform and buy all their games elsewhere
>>736599030I did but you retards won't use it
>>736596034Humble, Fanatical, etc. all legally sell Steam games for considerably cheaper where Valve gets 0%. You can often get games off Fanatical before they're even released for ~20% off.
>>736596005Gives you:>a spot on the world's most visible game store>the capacity to be fairly reviewed by owners of your game>your game on player's recommended list/discovery based on game type>basically free advertising (assuming your game is good in the first place)Imagine trying to sell your shitty game in a brick and mortar store.Millions in TV spots/magazine ads. Millions in discs, booklets, boxes, shipping fees.Stores have to place orders for your game, they have limited shelf space, they might pass on you.Fucking EB Games, Babbages, Software Etc, Fry's, don't even exist anymore. You'd have to sell your fucking game by word of mouth. Good luck with that shit. Valve could deny your shitty game space, a forum, and a place to be seen but they don't. You can make any dumb AI porn game and put it on Steam tomorrow.It could be so much worse and so much more unfair, but it isn't. Be grateful.
>>736596136>Literally, if you fuck up, they will just not let you put your game on the store anymore, period. No do-overs.Not entirely true. Rance games were already denied and Kagura is getting the entire series onto Steam. Valve doesn't seem to have any hard rules, it seems to depend far more on which employee is reviewing the game and whether or not a comprehensive enough patch for the loli is made. Flagrant loli games get onto Steam all the time, but people hear about the ones that don't far more often than the ones that do.
>Epicjeet posts it every day
>>736596005I miss the threads that just said>Nothing personel, staff!
>>736598980Anon this is a ritual ragebait post you are responding to, but thanks for trying
>>736596005>The competition should simply... catch up.>Ignore the 20 year head start, please. It doesn't matter.
>>736599330Also things like free online services, mod support, controller support and savegame backups
>>736599601Early bird gets the worm :^)
>>736599601Wait are you telling me Valves competitors are shooting their own feet for over two decades now? Damn that's some noble behaviour of theirs or rather full-blown incompetence at display
>>736599601>>The competition should simply... catch up.Yes.
>>736599601The "competition" has declared the pc plattform for dead 20 years ago
>>736599210weird, its almost like the storefront's cut doesn't actually determine success or salesbut that can't be possible, tims weeny said that its developers and publishers who drive the industry and not the people actually paying money to buy shit
>I LOVE my benevolent master.>He lets me play ALL his games for a small fee. :)
>>736599720Every single competitor was better than Steam was on launch.
>>736596005>Reduced Cut: Reduced to 25% after $10 million in revenue, and 20% after $50 million.
>>736599330TRVKE NVKEM
>A store is...making PROFIT off the things they sell??
>>736596005
>>736600119>sellRent out.
>>736596005>exposes and shills your product to millions of people instead of the few hundred thousand or less that would stumble upon it organicallyThere's a reason even big companies like blizzard are putting their games on steam
>>736600154Retard Until someone like Timmy fails completely you're just guessing No one has set a precedent and you can't even pirate your shit when that happens on console
>>736599601>Ignore the 20 year head start, please. It doesn't matter.Xiaomi
>>736596005Give it back right now!
>>736600138based gabencunt
I just hate storefronts. I hate the way a window pops up everytime I start something. I know there is probably a way to turn it all off but its much easier to just pirate things.
>>736599601The 20 year head start means nothingThe lessons they've learned are easy to read aboutIt's not some insider knowledge
>>736600224>Steam is too big to fail and that's a good thing!
>>736600328The 20 year head start means nothing hundrends of millions of active users and decades of infrastructure and catalogue build-up.
>>736600350>anon continues to seethe impotently
>>736599601I wonder how they got a 20 years head start
>>736600350>I want steam to fail despite offering better service than everyone in the pc and console space Take your meds then
>>736596005You can't see my teeth when I smile. I move me muscles, but my lips are still mostly in the way. Why is that? Low cheekbones?Also, do zoomers care about Steam?
If you dont like it then make your own platform.
>>736599598I understood that. I just like to make sure that the truth is out there any time I can. Maybe someone who doesn't already know will see it and change their opinion as a result.
>>736600452Vintage storyMinecraft All of the big chucklefucks could make a store if they wanted to Oh wait, they did that and that shit failed hard since they were way worse and less beneficial to the consumers than steam
>>736600603Will you use it?
>>736600642Nyo
>>736600638Yes, genius, because you can't simply copy the>hundrends of millions of active users and decades of infrastructure and catalogue build-upfrom Steam.
>>736600724Installing another launcher and using another storefront takes no effort, it's not some massive investment The simple answer is that no one can even compete with steam because they can't offer anything that improves on steam You don't deserve customers just because you don't like steam
>>736600724They can at least copy having an app that's actually functional and you'd think with all that money they would but no
>>736600060Guess they should have pooled their resources to invent a time machine
>>736600350Yes. It would fucking suck if Steam failed.
>>736600790>Installing another launcher and using another storefront takes no effort, it's not some massive investment All your games are in one place, that's a pretty big investment. Installing another launcher is another barrier to entry, no matter how small it will prevent a substantial fraction of people from using it.>The simple answer is that no one can even compete with steam because they can't offer anything that improves on steamWhich part of Steam can realistically be improved? Because if there's anything, Steam's already done that. So what's the problem? If in the best case scenario a carbon copy of Steam is all you can offer then why would anyone switch from Steam? It's literally impossible to compete.
>>736600724ev replacing combustion vehiclesspotify replacing apple/sonyfacebook replacing myspacetiktok replacing vine
>>736601331EGS replacing Steam.
>>736601450post the market share, Timmy
>>736601331>ev replacing combustion vehiclesNot equivalent>spotify replacing apple/sony>facebook replacing myspace>tiktok replacing vineAll had catastrophic consequences for everyone other than the corpos.
>>736601518Linux replacing Windows.
>>736601323Yes, that's pretty much what I said If the best you can offer is parity with steam then steam beats you with seniority There's no reason to topple steam if you can't offer an alternative that improves on itMeaningless destruction out of hatred for authority without any plans for the future is what niggers do
>>736596005>sell 10k units on steam with a 35% tax + tip>or sell 100 units without tax+tip on other platformsHmmmmm
>>736601619Who's responsible for that?
>>736601652Speaking of plans for the future, maybe you should consider the obvious monopoly and its implications.
>>736601774AI replacing your shitposts.
>>736601776What implications? If steam gets worse it's giving others room to compete
>>736601824No, who's responsible for Linux being viable enough to replace windows?
>>736600575Has one man ever been more wrong?
>>736601882Liquid metal replacing your bone marrow.
>>736601959Why do you refuse to answer?
>>736596005A tithe to the king, I kneel, m'lord...
Hey Timmy why does nobody use your store despite supposedly being better for the devs?Oh yeah right cause a bigger cut of nothing is still nothing nobody uses your store Timmy
>>736601998AMD replacing Nvidia.
>>736601848Yeah, if Steam fumbles the monopoly insead of capitalizing on it forever then others will be able to compete with it.
>>736598461Literally all the big devs either do it or tried and failed. What the fuck are you talking about?
>>736602232>Steam is so good that we'll only need a replacement if they fuck upYes, and that's not now and no one is even offering parity with steamTherefore we don't need anyone else
>>736600060Yeah like GFWL. Fucking hell you people.
>>736596005>Takes 35% of all your profitRaise the price by 35%, simple as
>>736601946
>>736602413Good thing that failed and all the games that incorporated that got fucked, am I right?
>>736602443>sell game for $100You make $65 on steam after their 35% cut>raise price by 35% so the game is $135You now make $87.50 on your $135 dollar game after valve takes its 35% cut
>>736596005That's a fair arrangement. I'm a contractor and in my market, 40-60's the norm, some as harsh as 50-50.
>>736602523>make an abysmal service>games that are tied to this service and aren't on some secondary platform like Steam get completely fuckedYes it was a good thing, fuck Microshit and fuck you.
>>736603103Do you remember what Steam was like in 2003?
>>736599601>it takes 20 years to add basic features like a shopping cart
>>736603170everyone knows what steam is and doesyou don't need to spend 20 years rediscovering everything
>>736596005Yeah it turns out having over 100 million monthly users trained to spend money on video games has some value to it. Who knew?
>>736601575>IT DIDN'T HAPPEN>IF IT HAPPEN IT DIDN'T MATTER>IF IT DID MATTER, I DON'T LIKE THE CONSEQUENCESHAAHAHAHHA LOOK AT THIS RETARD COPER KEEEEEEEEK
>>736596034>Use steam to advertise your game>Use valves servers to fileshare your files>Use steam to have a community platform>Sell steam keys off-steam so valve doesn't get a cut>Cry injustice
>Kills the drm store kikesNothing personal, parasites
>>736603459why are pirates such obnoxious vegans?
>>736599601You're not magically entitled to a bigger marketshare simply because the competition was building its audience for 20 years, while you were wasting time talking shit about the platform.
>>736599320Fanatical doesn't have a 24/7 sale on items per the rules though. I do very much like the launch discounts.I think they've partially gotten around it by offering a 5 to 15% off voucher on purchases, some of which don't need a purchase to get.
>>736599601>NOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR GO PUBLIC NOW VALVE
EGS is the only store that came even remotely close to being relevant, and it makes Steamites SEETHE. You don't even have to mention it because they always assume you're talking about EGS. Timmy might have sunk trillions into his shitty store but now he gets to live rent free in their heads.
>>736603724
>>736599601>try to create a new bank>competition sends assassin to shoot you in the back of your headthis world is full of injustice
>>736603798There's a reason Steamites are always the first ones to bring up the guy that pissed himself.
>>736596107Fine I'll do thatEdit: help the steam mafia is DDOSing my website
>>736603724No one is seething at EGS being a complete shitshow. Its only relevance is Fortnite and whatever free games they try and hock to its customers, and even then it can't even make a dent in Steams userbase. It must be nice huffing copium like an addict.
>>736603956could it be because the opener of this thread is using the 30% meme?no one gave a shit about it before timmy started screeching about it because everyone does it
>>736603170Yes, the difference is Steam improved. GFWL did not. It was trash since day 1 until the moment it died you disingenuous nigger.
>>736596005I think the market strategy is less jewish than we believeIf you are patient you get discounts so if everyone were patient then it wouldn't be 35%
>>736604135Because by the time it launched Steam was already way ahead.
>>736604248Re-read what I typed. Re-read what you posted. Contemplate on it. Then kill yourself. No further advice will be given.
>>736604290It was better than Steam on launch, simple as.
>>736599030Chuds say this then get mad when people tell them to make their own payment processors.
>>736599601Software development isn't a race where everyone moves at the same speed and a head start guarantees victory. Ideas and planning take a huge chunk of the dev time. Valve has graciously done that for the competition and all they need to do is write some code. Any megacorp could give a team of 10 people a budget and 2 years and they'd have a competitor with feature parity with Steam.
>>736603724>they always assume you're talking about EGSthe op explicitly uses an egsjeet talking pointthere is no reason to assume they're anyone elsefeel free to have a look how little that was brought up before it launchedhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/steam%2030/end/2018-01-01/page/1/
>>736604341Yes. And it was worse at launch than Steam was at the time it launched. And then it stayed in that state while Steam kept improving.
>>736599030Make your own central ba-
>>736600579Meds implies there's something medically wrong with him. You misunderstand. This is simply how jews and their poogolems are. They are working exactly as intended.
>>736604341retarded train of thoughtwhen you make a product, you use current knowledge and understanding of the product, you don't base it on how others started out
>>736604757Let's suppose you successfully make a copy of Steam. Now you have to convince millions of users to switch over and thousands of game devs to put their games on the store with no userbase.
>>736604961>copy of Steamthat's not enoughif that's all you're doing it just shows you're in it because you want a piece of the pieyou need to do something better than steam that people give a shit about, otherwise steam beats you with seniorityno one cares that you want a participation trophy
>>736604961Correct. That's why you then need to actually compete and offer more features than Steam.
>>736602454But haven't all the nexus troons switched to patreon nowadays? So he was right.
>>736602454All I see is redditors seething. I guess back then they were even more deranged.
>>736605095>>736605159>something better than steam >offer more features than SteamIgnoring how impossible of a task that is, considering that the user base and the games catalogue are some of its main features, it still wouldn't be enough to convince people to do the aforementioned because the benefit is marginal.
>>736603571>24/7 saleHoly fuck you are retarded
>>736598896Strange how their games aren't cheaper on their stores compared to Steam
>tfw when this faggot seethed so hard when a valve employee said that freedom of speech was a human right and to allow anyone to create a game and host it on steam during the peak of steam greenlightmakes me laugh everytime
>>736606006Read >>736596034
The problem is that I don't care about devs or companies. If you don't treat me, the customer, like a king, then I want nothing to do with you. Steam, for all intents and purposes,does what I want.Sony makes a ton of money and millions of dollars, but I end up paying the dividend. PSN keeps going up in price, their games keep getting worse. how do I benefit? Nintendo gloats about how they never do layoffs, but what does that matter to me when their prices are still sky high and their games are slop? Who cares if EGS gives devs a higher percentage, if the games are terrible and I end up paying the same?
>>736606128how about you read the replies to that post first
>>736606430How about you fact check it yourself.
>>736596005>does nothing>wins>does something>wins harder
>>736596034Do you actually play games on PC?
>>736606128>read my lie until you believe itno>you are not immune to propagandaI'm immune to yours because you're doing it wrong
>>736605768>Ignoring how impossible of a task that isWhy is it impossible? Catching up is simple like I said a couple posts ago and after that you just need to innovate to keep ahead.
>>736596005If it wasn't a good offer no one would take it. 100% of 0 sales is $0
>>736606646>Why is it impossible?the user base and the games catalogue are some of its main features
>>736606641lol 4chan didn't like my picturedoesn't change the fact accusing Newell of doing what Sweeney actually did isn't going to work on /v/
>>736606329>If you don't treat me, the customer, like a king, then I want nothing to do with you.It's what the consumer protection laws such as anti-monopoly laws are for.
>>736596034?
>>736605768>steam is so good that no one can make something that offers morethen why the fuck are you so mad about it? you're just a retarded contrarian mad at the authorityyour library doesn't fucking disappear when you download another launcher you retard
>>736603571A 24/7 sale isn't a sale, but I get what you mean. The base prices are usually the same. Fanatical and humble and all them have such frequent discounts I think it's a bit of a moot point though. Steam still facilitates a massive key market with major discounts where they get no cut.
>>736607386Calm down.
>>736607667where's the argument?why should everybody share your retarded irrational rage at steam when you admit no one can match or beat its features?
>>736606469>>736606128tencent zhang will never own steam KEEEEEK
>>736596034the "restriction" is you're not allowed to sell steam keys, for which steam doesn't get a cut, for less than the steam price.
>>736607386Pssh, ever heard of monopoly, kid?
>>736596005Isn't it 30%? He updated it to 35%?
>>736596005jewish thread - they still mad about the Rothschild extortion losing in court
>>736608156>first place is so far ahead of anything else that no one can catch up and has so few flaws that someone else fixing them isn't enough to make a platform out ofwhy do they need competition then? you do know what the point of a competition is right?
>>736608156Yeah.
>>736596034>set steam price at $500>set price on your site at $15>use steam purely as an advertising platform that links to your sitecan't imagine why that's a policy
>>736600575>>736601946He and CliffyB were talking a lot of shit about PC after the immense amount of money they got from Unreal3 licensing and the Gears of War contract with Microsoft
>>736596005>sells out and becomes completely money obsessed two decades ago>every PC user on the planet still blows him like he's Jesus Christ
>>736596005it's not your profit until it reaches your hand and it wouldn't reach your hand if you didn't subscribe to his service and agreed to his terms
>>736608498this.You can get a 100% of zero dollars from Epic or Battle.net whenever you like
>>736596005>35%Schlomo...
>>736608494This. I only support companies that work for zero profit.
Can we get some new bait or atleast a dedicated shitposter? These threads are the same tired shit every day.
>>736596005there are two schools of thought:>Steam in a rent-seeking monopoly on the online video game market space>Steam is a great marketing tool; it gives your game worldwide exposure equivalent to a high level advertising campaign and is probably worth even more than 35% considering advertising costs historically speakingwhich school of thought do (you) subscribe to?
>>736599601>You should hire this literal baby that cannot stop shitting itself.>Nooooo. Dont hire the graduate, he had a 20 year head startSkill issue lmao
>>736608701These aren't exclusive to each other.
>>736596034>third worlders don’t understand the logistics of digital game distribution and just keep insisting it should be free because they think it doesn’t cost valve anything
>>736608156found the jew
>>736601998>GraphIsn't that literally just because of SteamOS?
no one gave a shit about the cut until tim sweeney started crying so never forget that these discussions are just sweeney propagandaalso no one ever cries about literally every other platform having the exact same cut too
>>736610054First party platforms have a 0% cut.
>>736608919kek
>>736610096and which are these fabulous unicorns? Why does nobody use them?
>>736603410steam doesn't advertise games, wish you retards would stop pretending they do to justify 30% kikery
>>736609991no, steamos is 25% of the linux share and the 'eck is 23%it's the biggest but it's only dropping
>>736610232EA app takes a 0% cut of EA gamesUbisoft Store takes a 0% cut of Ubisoft gamesMicrosoft Store takes a 0% cut of Microsoft gamesetc.
>>736603410Advertisement that only works for the people that bought into a platform isn't real advertisement.
>>736599210because it's crapoffers pretty much nothing over Steam
>>736596005steamretards are pretty delusional but that's by their own doing, they like showing off their game libraries to show how """patrician""" they are in terms of taste, hence people idling games to make people like them
>>736596005You can always host it on itch.io or host it yourself; or worse yet try physical distribution, but good luck getting any sales.>>736596034That's a blatant lie, but I'm sure a lot of fools will take your word for itOverall devs make more money because of Steam, than they would have without it. Nothing in life is ever perfect or the way you want it, grow up
>>736601323>Which part of Steam can realistically be improved?they should fix broadcastingit basically never worked(without issues)
>>736610831Has anyone ever used it, outside of literallywhos plastered on a game's page by the publisher/dev, to the annoyance of the perusing customer?
>>736608919Why is Nintendo there? They're the only company not raising hardware prices or subscription fees.
>>736610938they're already sky high for what they offerthe switch 2 should be half the price considering how bad it is at being a handheld and how their indie production cost games are sold at a massive premium like they have to recoup hundred million dollar budgets
>>736610908I tried streaming to friendsFriend tried to stream CSGO and Project Diva to meit was always buffering, not loading, stuttering or so low bitrate it was unwatchableI would use it over Youtube if it worked
>>736608919Why is Nintendo there? They're the only company that made billions by selling shovelware and literal cardboard.
>>736601323>Which part of Steam can realistically be improved?The review rating system.I hate how it only lets you rate a game positive or negative, made even worse by the fact that the store already HAS a mixed/neutral icon.
>>736611083Didn't know it had that functionality, if it worked that's actually pretty neat
>>736610938>They're the only company not raising hardware prices or subscription fees.https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/nintendo/nintendo-switch-2-price-hike-expected-082684-20260402
>>736611213>every game ends up with a turdhued rating iconPositive or negative. Just decide.
>>736604248No it fucking wasn't lmao
>>736596005stop posting these 2005 tier pics
>>736611301most games deserve the brown-colored tilde-turd
>>736596005Rich people are all rich off other peoples work. They own things and get paid for owning things.
>>736611213We have years of data from rating systems that offer more than positive or negative options and they all end up turning into just being positive or negative because the majority of people will either pick 1 star or 5 stars.
Why did Epic need more than 1000 employees in the first place?What the fuck were they doing?
>>736596005>gives you a platform>99.999% server uptime>Distribution Build QA>let you evade taxes>costumer sales support totally on him>don't take away the games from consumers even if the game left the store, every cost from now on is on him>helps you make your game run on Linux (1% of userbase)>If you sell 1 million he charges you less(!)>complete dashboard with all kinds of user data to better strategize your sales, updates and what not>lets you sell your niche futa game to global market (even china!!)>do not eat your cut during sales>helps in marketing strategies35% (actually 30% and much less if profits are high) is actually fine as they basically run the whole thing and I all have to do is code and build.
>>736611732Making and maintaining a game engine and Fortnite.
>>736611783and you need more than 1000 people for that?
>>736611829when the Biden Administration is noticing you and threatening to shut you down if you don't improve your ESG score, yes
>>736611829No, hence the layoffs. Mass hirings were just covid FOMO.
>>736611748That doesn't stop the trooncode "devs" who can't scramble together the $100 to get the game on Steam to begin with. They will forever seethe and blame whoever is safe to blame for their own ineptitude
>>736596034Every time I see this I check GOG and can find at least one game that is cheaper than the steam version. Right now you can buy Evenicle for about $15 less on GOG than steam.
>>736612310this is a thing?
I publish and sell my games on itch for free and with 100% money going to me.
>>736612436Yeah that $14 revenue is hitting hard for you
>>736612418I've seen plenty complain that $100 is too steep a ONE TIME fee.Which is insane. It's so deliciously low
>>736612436>Why be a stripper in a big city when you can be a prostitute in some village?
>>736612436I thought itch took 10%?
>>736612520More like $0 revenue
>>736612595If you wanna be a stripper in a big city, accept the city rules, it ain't hard.
>>736612707But what if you were to open your own brothel in a village? Then you can totally compete with the city club.
>>736612418>>736612558it's not even a fee but a deposit. you get it back if you sell enough copies
>>736610054steamcucks are truthfully delusional to the fullest extent.
>>736599601>literally have the work cut out for you>still fuck it up
>>736613561don't you have remotes to munch on
>Is a PCchad who created his company because he wanted to support PC gaming>created a highly optimised and flexible 3D engine that can be used for all kinds of game genres as well as animation>instead of hating pirates like the devil, he merely pointed out that people who pirate seek good service and fair treatment>put an end to corpos trying to rape PC gaming harder with increasingly malware-tier and predatory DRM's by just showing them a one-time login is enough>steam "DRM" is very light and easy to crack>saved PC gaming from becoming irrelevant with the quickly growing popularity of Steam and corpos noticing that PC users actually buy games>indirectly caused the average quality of ports (even japanese ones) to increase>steam allows easy access to millions of games from all kinds of genres and niches without ever leaving your home>the indie scene got to grow massively and obtain strong presence on the market>steam support gives me refunds without any bullshit>Valve's old games still get supported and kept alive with updates all these years later>steam being so big stops evil kike companies like Microshart or Ubisoft from taking control of the marketWhy am I supposed to hate him again?
>>736599601It's almost like the competition spent 20 years shitting on PC gaming and wanting it dead while Gaben actually wanted it to survive
>>736611213You already have 3 things to work with>I liked it enough to recommend>I hated it enough to not recommend>I am so indifferent to it that I cant be assed to even review itNuance is what you use your words for. Your review is just as important as some dumb cunt who made a 5 word meme review.
>>736613561>he still uses steam
>>736596107You're talking about ''people'' that have coasted their way through life on someone else's wallet.
The site is rarely down. No subscription needed for online. No subscription needed for online saves. No paying extra to download your favorite games on a new pc. Nothing extra for reviews and forums. Lots of sales. This will all change after Microsoft buys it.
>>736615042/v/ told me it's dumb to read reviews and you should just buy the game to make your own mind up.
>>736610446>EA and Ubisoft sold stopped putting games on Steam for a long period of time>Got 100% of the revenue from their games on their platform>Kept prices the normal rate at the time
>>736597806Gaben made a game 20 years ago and so they fellate him forever
>>736616415Only read reviews from people who actually played the game and put effort into their review to communicate what's good or bad about it.Use that decide if it's worth investing your time into based on what you know about what types of games you like. Still form your own opinion though; its okay to not have an opinion on a game you didnt play.
>>736607092WHY IS THE GAME $10.49 FOR YOU, $9.44 AFTER DISCOUNT?MY STARTING PRICE WAS $20
>>736616490disingenuouspeople like him for the storefront and the features associated with itthe games are a really small part of it
>>736596005Sooo why isnt there a good mobile store yet? Fuck!
>>736617332steam on arm won't be relevant until the frame releasesand even then you're not getting it on iToys because lol no vulkan
>>736600138So Gabe took about $2.50 or so?
>>736610409>>736610515>niggas really think that advertisement only counts if valve let you put your shitty pixel platformer on the front page of steam
>>736608848>third worlders out of nowheredid you forget about regional pricing anon?Also if anything its 1st world devs who complain about the 30% cut. Cause gamedev is literally unsustainable in the first world.
>>736608919Nintendo is winning hard
>>736618063>TotK>Prime 4They've had a bit of a dry spell, anon.
>>736596005>makes their own GPT BASED GABEN
>>736600060They aren't competing against Release Steam though, they're competing against current Steam.
>>736605768Literally all you have to do is look at what at Steam does, copy that, then fix the issues people have with it. How steam works isn't some hidden arcane knowledge, you can download and look at how it works right now.
>>736618009As opposed to all the third-worlder game devs out there with no government nor investor funding?
Take it king.You were there for me when i was at lowest.You were just there.Thank you.
>>736618921This. Gabe could've just been a full blown about this.
>>736618885third world devs only need to earn 300$-600$ per month. And thirdie devs (the only ones who have the means to make games) usually stay in their houses rent free due to culture (especially asian devs giving them infinite dev time) while westeners you are forced to move out by their parents.Who needs government funding when you have parent money and infinite time (cause your family owns your own house and you living on it rent free)
>>736617429apple has metal api, which is supposedly on par with vulkan and dx12. and there is vulkan on metal. Apple still a bunch of retards tho, if they weren't they would have made the opengl dx translation to metal themselves.
>>736604417If by payment processors you mean Mastercard and Visa, they are not payment processors. They are card labels. They require regulatory approvals to operate so you can't just make one and you need authorization from every jurisdiction around the world they want to operate before you begin. They are also no scalable because they are required to guarantee the payment flow so you have to build provisions that grow with your volumes.This is not an argument for not building your own storefront to compete with steam.
>>736618009>scalpers mad they cant buy a thousand game copies using a third world currency with a stolen credit card and then resell the keys anymorestop the presses
>>736596034You don't play PC games retardbro
>>736599601Literally every competition does catch up they just decide to stop racing by attacking the people on the sidelines.
>>736611213No. The rating system is perfect. The question is: do you recommend this game or not? If you aren't decided and want to rate the game, you must decide. Was the game good enough, even despite its flaws, that you'd recommend it?
>>736602131I did try EGS because I wanted to play AW2. It was truly awful. I unironically wouldn't play a game on it even if I was paid for it, that's how bad my experience was. If your game is not on Steam or GOG or requires install of some extra launcher and external account, fuck you. I don't care how good the game is, I am not buying it.
>>736623873its funny to me people would say this is being a “steam cultist” when the reality is other storefronts are just plain insultingly inferior
