What are your vidya related Trvkes?
the greatest stealth shooter of all time is TLOU2 and it's not even close
>>736598703capcom hasn't made a single good game
Story is only good if the gameplay is also important to it. If the two are completely separated then the story is shit and you shoud have written a book
Pokemon was always an okay franchise, so the people sperging about how the games are "bad" now make no sense. Now, don't get me wrong. The biggest media franchise on the planet should put in more effort, but it's not like the franchise went from DMC 4 to DMC 2.
I apologize to all composers, but vidya music and sound design is completely irrelevant in 99.9% of games, because the things you are responding to are all visual and the whole game can be played, understood and finished with all sounds turned completely off.
chud...
>>736599498Rhythm games exist anon
>>736599498I think you're autistic because most games fucking suck massive dick without sound or music
stalker is a shitty unplayable mess and everyone that recommends it should be chemically castrated.
>>736598703The reboot is the best dmc.
>>736598703Video games were better when they were toys for children
>>736598703Turks like other russians are shit at video games that require more than two brain cells thus gaming is not popular in their culture if they can't ruin it for others by being insufferable cunts.
>>736598703There is not a single id Software games the is above mid range without mods. >Doom 1 and 2 require a gameplay mod like Brutal Doom (yes I'm serious, /vr/'s powertripping tranny janny can't ban me for speaking something he doesn't like here). Hell, ANY mod in general from gameplay to total conversion is better than default Doom.Quake 1 is better with Arcane Dimensions.Quake 2 doesn't have any real gameplay mods so remains forever mid.Quake 3 required CPMA until it was good.Doom 3 Phobos mod is better than the base game.Rage sucked.Doom 2016 was mid.Eternal sucked but was great with the now abandoned and out of date Lava Mod.Dark Ages needs the Remove Slowmo mod to be even remotely playable and even then hits above average at best.
>>736599498I was about to say that music is one of the most important parts of a game, and there are so many mid games that are remembered today only because the music is good, like most of the square enix games.you can't tell me anyone would give a shit about ff7 if they played with the volume off
>>736598703Big budget "Gooner" titles are all shit.Not because they have soft lewd content, but because they don't go all the way with erotic content.Faggots that deny this are simply into softcore content as a fetish.
>>736600921>Brutal DoomLast good version was V19, before SM4 started overloading it with mechanics instead of refining the "I AM SPEED" gameplay that came from instagib jumpkicks and making hitscanners projectile based (but really fast projectiles).
>>736598703Open world is literal dogshit>>736600921Just because a mod is better than the original doesn't mean the original is "mid", total non sequitur
>>736599495Pokemon was always a bad franchise. It's still bad now.
>>736598703Video games can never be art
>>736598703People with a strong hatred for league of legends are usually extremely bad at the game, low iq, or both. If you engage with the game on good terms, are not mentally unstable, and actually understand how the ranked system works you can have a great time. It's highly populated, playable at all hours of the day, its massive playercount means you will always match with people on your relative skill level, good netcode, low ping, ultra light on performance.
>>736601758art is a buzzword and not even academics can agree on what it means
>>736601839>this word to describe a human phenomenon is actually fakeYeah you are very smart anon
>>736598703You're not a real gamer if you only play online multiplayer games. You're a tourist that destroyed this hobby.
>>736602515it used to mean technique, when things were hand crafted, you had the "art of creating X thing", it could be a sculpture but also a sword or anything, the word lost its meaning with time, like many words do, except it still stuck around for some reason.now give me a solid modern definition of what it means in a way that fits everything we consider art and cut off everything we don't and everyone will agree with.
>>736598703FFXIV never had a good story or was well-written. This also applies to Shadowbringers and Endwalker. People only think so because they were held hostage for hundreds of hours and developed a sort of 'Stockholm syndrome'.
>>73659870399.9% of vidya are story first gameplay second.Video games are aiming to create non-abstract worlds with mechanics in service of selling you on those worlds - Mario entering pipes isn't a thing because it makes the gameplay better, it's only to sell the fantasy that he's a plumber.The only games you can say are truly gameplay first are the ones with fully abstract visuals like Tetris, as they aren't trying to convey anything but their core mechanics.
>>736599495Died pedophile feetfags>>736600198Eat shit emo
>>736599495Pokemon was fun/revolutionary back in the day,but it is a franchise stuck in time. They just refuse to evolve and grow with the times. They still have the exact same shitty combat system that is so creatively oppressive.
>>736602642Now that's one nuclear truth, 100% agreed.
>>736598703The story is the least important part of a game and should be judged like the packaging on a fast food burger.
>>736602630Why would i help someone i don’t respect to refine his worldview? You look to authority to explain life to you. Your perspective has zero value to me
>>736602642>People only think so because they were held hostage for hundreds of hours and developed a sort of 'Stockholm syndrome'.and because they're only other point of comparison is retail WoW, a game so poorly written that the studio's in house writers literally need a YouTuber to tell them what is happening in their own story
"Mario is the mickey of vidya" is a tendie cope to make mario looks more popular than he is as the face if video games
>>736602812You know what's also a human phenomenon? buzzwords, many animals communicate, they even have their own names, but I don't think we ever found one using words that don't mean anything. They do sniff their own farts a lot though, a behavior that is commonly observed in self proclaimed artists, so maybe there is a link here.
Baldur's Gate 3 is mediocre and remains blatantly unfinished.
>>736600031yeah, that's the 0.1%
>>736598703Classic Tomb Raider actually sucks ass and is only put on a pedestal by pseuds with no taste.
>>736602672Kill yourself.
>>736598703Padding every single game to be 200+ hours of slop to "justify" the price is cancer, and people who only judge games by their lengths are cancer as well.
>>736600098>>736601160If a game is good only because of it's music, then it's a bad game.
>>736601160This is true, to tie this into >>736599495 while there's a lot you can say has changed from old Pokemon to nu-Pokemon the main thing that's causing people to turn on the games is shitty and unmemorable music that doesn't elevate the gameplay and atmosphere in the same way it used to in the old games.
>>736602984I couldn't even finish the first Act, it was so unfun.
>>736602984But le quirky characters xD Astarion is my husbando ^-^
Resident Evil Requiem should be rated, "Adults Only". Pavlov Shack with wrist weights are a legitimate means to learn how to kill people in real life, but add an airsoft replica or two for even better results.
>>736599498>>736603070Name one great platformer with bad/unmemorable music
>>736598703videogames are shit>>736598747holy shit taste
>>736598703New Vegas's actual gameplay sucks massive balls
There's no video game crashJust a course correction 200 million dollar games are not sustainable That's why all the smaller euro studios are thriving
>>736598703only my opinions on vidya are based. everone else's are cringe
>>736598703/v/ doesn't know shit about video games >>736604414Case in point
No matter how many billions you burn and fakejournos you bribe, your remakes and GaaSlop will still fail
>>736598747Shame about the story and characters
>>736603070Even Rock Band and Guitar Hero?
marathon is alright
>>736601761MOBAs in general got Nicklebacked because of how mentally retarded some LoL fans are. The genre is fine, and actually fun with friends
infinite warfare was a perfectly decent COD game
>>736598747What constitutes as a stealth shooter?
A lot of retro games aged like shit
>>736598703Rockstar and GTA have no right to be as popular and well regarded as they are.
>>736598703There are no bad items in The Binding of Isaac. Everything has a use if you're not bad. Only cowards spam restarts until they get a good floor one item.
3/10s of old are better than the 10/10s of today
2009 was the last decent vidya year
>>736598747Never played it but I liked Uncharted 4 a lot with its fluent transition from stealth to full gunfight, I assume TLOU is similar
>>736598703Marvel Rivals is going against what initially drew people to it by making their new characters safe horny and making Reddit-tier skins like Maid Deadpool.Nobody seems to want to admit this.
>>736606005I still don't get why that game was so hated. Good characters, great levels, good villain, you get to fly a spacefighter, Ethan is one of the best companions in CoD history, every capital ship you have to destroy you infiltrate in a different way. There was so much good to it, but now we're just getting Modern Warfare and Black Ops endlessly. (Not to imply I don't love Black Ops.)
>>736602642It's more of a "compared to MMORPGs" no one is denying that the WoWfags that came over in Shadowbringers are suffering from stockholm but XI and XIV were way ahead of other MMORPGs in the storytelling department. Even just the way they presented the actual narrative, that's all it really comes down too.
>>736598703>TrvkesDoes being esl the current rage these days.
WOW isn't an MMO.
>>736599498Music can absolutely vastly improve your experience. If you have some high action segment of a game but have it play some shitty elevator muzak then you're going to be like "what the fuck is this shit". Or you can have a high action segment while it's screaming RULES OF NATURE and you're like "hell yeah".Sound design as well. It can make simple actions feel more satisfying, and it's also just important for faster paced games, particularly PVP. It's one of the most underrated aspects of Splatoon 3 for example since the sound alone gives you so much passive information of where people are and what they're doing. Playing without the sound on feels like you're blind.
>>736598747Not a trvke just bait. It’s just watered down, shitty gears of war/typical TPS gameplay.
>>736603758The second act is worse except the Ketheric Thorm who carries every scene he has on his back. >>736603934I almost liked him in the one scene where he has a meltdown over drinking the drow's blood but can't stand him the rest of the time. I've got no idea why people were so high on this game's characters. The only ones worth anything so far is Ketheric and Act 3's "fuck Mystra literally and figuratively" Gale.
>>736606223Safe horny how? What's changed? The Rivals threads still seem to be packed with gooners.
>>736598703Are wojakposters worse than frogposters?
Just like>Most players will optimize the fun out of the game given the chance,Most developers will balance the fun out of the game given the chance.
Trvke = all trvkes threads are fucking dogshit and are filled with hyper contrarian takes with zero explanation for the sake of it or absolute autists like >>736599498 who is on the same level of retard as people who wonder why you put a bay leaf in soup
>>736598703Soijak bullshit should be banned
>>736598703Mobile games are not real games.
>>736602642every ff will be compared to the golden age (6,7,8,9,10), its a losing battle
My opinions on games are right, if people disagree with me they are wrong.
>>736599495Tie-in: Pokemon is for school-aged children to collect cards and games of. Each generation corresponds roughly with what a /new/ generation of children should be playing. It's absurd for adults to complain that the series is going in the wrong direction when you're meant to play them between ages like 6 and 9, maybe 10, and then move on.
>>736609786>nooooooo you aren't allowed to apply any kind of standard to a game where 99% of the audience is people in their 30s
Overrated games are that way for a good reason.Even though they might not be as flawless as their diehard fans praise them to be, the games that have been topping the Best Game Ever lists since they were made are there because they're genuinely good games that everyone should play.
>>736609893In the West, maybe. I posit most Pokemon players are Japanese school children.
>>736598703PvP = GameEverything else = interactive experience
>>736609937Children deserve good games too
>>736603020I remember when all of the fake tomb raider fans found out about the atlantis bodyhorror stuff and exposed themselves
There was nothing wrong with the ubislop tower formula
>>736598747Posted from Tel Aviv
>>736609786The rotating door business model is too hard for retards to graspThings like cod or pokemon don't care if 10 autist adults quit when 50 new autist children will take their place. And children will always, ALWAYS outnumber people complaining, no matter how much bitching you read on twitter. just like >>736609893 is the prime example of not understanding what the actual target audience is, you fucking retard
>>736609786>>736609786Nintendo collects user data. They know the ages of Pokemon fans and how much time they spend playing each game. Going from PLZA to Fire Red made me realize how much of the dialogue in Pokemon games has been infantalized. In early games, you were treated as an ordinary trainer. But in modern games, every NPC glazes you constantly. They gush over how cool you are, and how much they admire your skills. That's because they know the games are being played by adults who will never hear such affirmations in the real world.
>>736610456You don't think it could maybe be because it affirms the children's fantasy of being an adventurer and hero? Come on, now. Standards have also changed and the young generations are full of retards who couldn't withstand any criticism or the harshness of reality anyway, so who'd write it needlessly into their golden goose?
>>736610064People like to hate but between Assassin's Creed and Far Cry 3, Ubisoft was like the most influential developer of the seventh Gen. The problem is they made those two games...then that's it. They were done. That stagnation finally caught up with them
>>736610456>what is culture shiftWhat is acceptable writing changes moron. Just like how comedies used to say retard all the time and now they don't. Writing has shifted in games too but that doesn't mean pokemon is any less for childrenAlso yeah it's 2026 but I'm going to call you retard anyways, retarded faggot
>>736598703Open world games are made by devs too lazy to do proper level design
>>736609786>>736610123ThisHell, my personal Trvke is /vp/ is secretly the greatest containment board of them all and we should thank god it exists every day especially as /v/irginsThats right, not /mlp/ (Bronyism had it's time but is fucking long dead by this point, it was basically dead by 2020)Not /r9k/ (incel/looksmaxxing jargon is mainstream normalfag shit now and, and if anything true robots like to stay in their home )Not even /pol/ (Does a bad job of containing anything and political shitflinging is also mainstream)Anyone giving a fuck about muh Pokmans past the age of like 17 is severely insufferable/autistic and the 'discussions' of what game/gen is better is just nothing but talking in circles with low iq neckbeard spergs who literally don't play other games or know anything, these people are fucking dullards not worth talking to. This board has enough poketism threads as is, imagine if these fgts weren't contained The exception to this is oddly enough porn, if you only care about Pokemon to jerk off you are ironically a 'normal' person and at worst a braindead gooner that can be easily ignored
>>736611160>The exception to this is oddly enough porn, if you only care about Pokemon to jerk off you are ironically a 'normal' person and at worst a braindead gooner that can be easily ignoredI've watched the anime up to XYZ but I've only played emerald and diamondYet I know almost every gym leader because the jerk off material is too good. So this is true, I only care a little because dark skinned bitches like jacinthe
>>736610064It's a formula I can return to and enjoy after years, but I can't fathom game after game of it.
>>736605860First of all, rock music is shit, and second, yes. Those games would function with no music as well. They will be brainless visual color button mashing, when the coloured thing passses across it's coloured mark on the line. You'd still be able to play it and beat it. Plus, you'd see much clearly how far from playing real instrument these games really are.
>>736611038nobody but your xitter cave cares, homo
>>736598703Half-Life 2 is one of the worst games I have ever played. It's a bland, boring, mediocre corridor shooter with zero depth. It lacks the fun and intelligence of the original. Half-Life 2 has some good moments like Ravenholm but it's nothing more then a gravity gun and physics engine showcase. I feel like Half-Life 2 was nothing more then an unfinished tech demo for the source engine.Portal was an ok game. But the cake is a lie meme shows just how bad and retarded the writing was.
>>736602617Based
>>736612942>Half-Life 2 is one of the worst games I have ever played.doesnt even need to read the rest, try playing at least 10 games first.
>>736613131Fuck you valvenigger. Your fellating of gabens cock led to abuses like microtransactions and loot box mechanics becoming popular throughout the industry.
Games are not significantly worse than they were 20 years ago. It's blatant historical revisionism that relies on only picking out the best years and the best titles, while ignoring hundreds of games - many made by AAA publishers - that were complete garbage. The trash gets forgotten because it is trash. This happens to almost everything historically. People are strongly biased towards things that happened to them recently, and are prone to forgetting bad things faster. It's called Fading Affect Bias.>The fading affect bias, more commonly known as FAB, is a psychological phenomenon in which memories associated with negative emotions tend to be forgotten more quickly than those associated with positive emotions. FAB only refers to the feelings one has associated with the memories and not the content of the memories themselves.You can also call it rosy retrospection. Either way, it's pretty extreme in video games. If you don't like it, here's some evidence:>PS1: over 3000 games>N64: 388 games>PS2: over 4000 games>Gamecube: 640 games>Xbox: over 1000 games>GBA: over 1500 games>DS: over 3400 gamesDo you know how many games people talk about from this timeframe? Maybe 200 and most of the conversation is on fewer than 50. Out of fucking thousands. Nothing has changed.
>>736613675>FAB this FAB that20 years back we didn't have gacha, season passes, constant attempts to push GaaS, oh, and NIGGERBT+ flags in every other game.The closest you'd have is subscription service and pay to win donations - and mostly in MMOs (which are a goycattle genre and should be eradicated along with their supporters and developers).So while you've got a point that people gloss over many shitty games, gaming as a whole got substantially worse with (((shareholders))) and (((executives))) pushing for nickle-and-diming you dry. Unity and UE lowering skill floor for game development and making it accessible for jeets and retards also caused a constant influx of shovelware, asset-flips and lately vibecoded garbage. Early access got developers in habit of selling incomplete games, getting the money and then promptly fucking off without ever finishing or even fixing their shit.None of this shit was in place 20 years back.
>>736598703MOBAs are made for women who want something on in the background while they talk to their friends.
>>736598747Upvoting this because everyone else just took the opportunity to say some game is bad
>>736598703PC ports are better now than they used to beNo one remembers how many games were locked to 30 or 60 fpsOr didn't accept arbitrary resolutionsOr didn't allow keybind editingOr didn't show the correct controller glyphs Also a lot of them ran like shit on contemporary hardware and some of them still run like shit to this day all these years later like saints row 2
Crazy Taxi was a mediocre game.
>>736598703Graphic whoring destroyed video games like we predicted back then.
>>736598747First post, worst post.
>>736598703Writing is mediocre in 90% of videogames
The last good Zelda game was Twilight Princess.
>>736599495Modern pokemon is absolute filth.
>>736599498Dear every post in this thread is wrong and garbage.
>>736598703speakers are better than headphones for gaming
Halo sucks.
>>736612561>First of all, rock music is shitGreat-grandpa, what are you doing on 4chan?
>>736599498You're retarded
>>736598703Onirism's english voice acting is dogshit and wasted on literal who's and trying to do the tara strong thing of having a female voice a male character. But, it's obvious he's well in his teens. I fucking hate blueberry and carols english VA's.
>>736598703RTS never died. You just don't want to play an RTS.
>>736606149But... horse balls!
>>736599495Gonna be honest, I'm not the kind of guy who plays a lot of "fan content", but a friend recently got me into playing the cobblemon minecraft mod or whatever and it's too good, very high effort too, it lacks a propper story or gyms and shit like that but good god, I became addicted to that shit.
>>736598703Having to position a camera with your analog stick has actively hampered level design and gameplay
Technical limitations is a huge part of what makes videogames soulful
>>736619184AOE 2 getting expansions and big tournaments in 2026 is insane to me. I was playing the game almost everyday when I was 6 years old and now I'm 31
>>736598703Videogames will always be inherently childish, like anime and manga, like comics and capeshit movies. Videogames will never be an adult hobby, nor will they ever be "art".
>>736622280>Videogames will always be inherently childishI agree, and it's detrimental when people get obsessed with games being "mature" instead of just being fun.
>>736598703>Troon retards like Gianni use Duke Nukem as if he were a critical parody of masculine 80s heroes when he was a celebration of them and the marketing for Duke 3D straight up mocked faggots>Half Life Alyx was Jay Pinkerton whedonist shit and fucked the Half Life franchise over, I have no faith for HL3>Hitman Blood Money is really uncomfortable to play>Modern 4k RTX shit has led to 1. devs being incompetent lazy fucktards like the Doom Dork Ages ones not being able to do basic baked lighting and 2. games being insanely unpolished and having such shit optimization that only Nvidia paypiggies can even play them>No Denuvo game is worth playing anyways so HV is useless>Indie games by troon devs deserve to get pirated because they're often propaganda pieces. Most suck anyways though
>>736622280This is definitely a truke, but most adults have become more childish too. That's why I don't even care. Everyone I know that doesn't like vidya will go on and on like verbal diarrhea over the latest capeslop.
>>736622280this but for movies, paintings, books and music. stamp collecting (my favourite hobby) is the only one for grown men.
>>736622280Videogames, comics and capeshit are closer to art than modern art will ever be. That being said, tranime will NEVER be art.
There isn't a single RPG with "good combat". The gameplay aspect of RPGs is leveling up and progressing your character. It's impossible to make combat consistent and well balanced with that in mind. It has to be made easy or frustrating based on how good or shit you were at the character progression part.
Kill yourself jaknigger!
>>736626010RPGs are all about writing first and foremost
the use of mini maps is a sign of bad design>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzYRT7LBQs
>>736598703Fallout New Vegas is an unfinished mod for Fallout 3 with equally cartoonish, ridiculous writing that somehow got retroactively reappraised by trannies as the second coming of RPGs despite being basically the same as the game those people claim to hate.>>736598747MGSV still has the best TPS mechanics ever (shame about everything else).
>>736626898MGSV gives you way too many tools, way too much ammo, and the guards are pathetic. Compare how many silenced shots MGSV gives you compared to TLOU2's suppressor. MGSV requires that mod to turn every mission into OSP to be half as challenging.
>>736598703the enjoyment of video games is as much mindset as it is quality. Playing games with an open mind and engaging with the systems with earnestness can lead to a lot more fun and enjoyment than just picking up the controller with cynicism.
>>736598703Woke is not an indicator of neither quality nor lack of it
