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Why was Tears of the Kingdom so bad?
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>>736601785
it wasn't
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>>736601785
because after Iwata died Nintendo became nothing but a greedy, lazy cashgrab company
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>>736601851
Why are you a subhuman low IQ goy cattle?
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>>736601897
kill yourself retard inbred
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See you tomorrow for your weekly humiliation rape ritual OP
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>>736601938
meant for >>736601851
>>736601938
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>>736601785
This game is amazing, it helped dox a shitposter that spams about this game every day.
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>>736602023
>doxxed shitposter
QRD?
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>>736601785
It's was my first Zelda game and I think it is good
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>underground is the same biome everywhere
>sky islands are tiny
>you spend way too much time in the menus
>still no real dungeons
>building things get tedious fast
>weapons break in 6 hits
>weak story
>way too much side quests
>not a single memorable NPC
>worst OST of any Zelda game
>shit final boss

I loved BOTW but i REGRET buying TOTK
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>>736602069
This russian guy got doxed because of the threads he made every day about this game.
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>>736601785
Because you played BoTW for 100+ hours, and went straight for ToTK.
If you hadn't played BoTW, or waited half a year, it'd be good - assuming you like those kind of games.
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>>736602346
What are the odds?
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>>736601785
Seek mental help
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>>736602365
we need to take away the internet from mentally ill homeless schizos
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>>736602273
>Worst ost if any Zelda game
It's comparable to BOTW imo, the boss tracks and final boss music is really great at least
Still lowes out of any Zelda game ofc
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>>736601785
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>>736601785
It didn't. It was quite fun. At most, you could say that the underworld fell flat. There didn't end up being a lot in it. They should have made it a series of isolated minidungeons like the skyworld. The extra dev resources would have been better spent tripling the size of all the dungeons. But even then, the dungeons, and entry quests to get into the dungeons, were already vastly improved over BOTW. The fusion system is unironically the best inventory system in the franchise.

But I know you won't actually read this post because you're a fucking schizo.
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>>736601785
Fuck off Eric
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>>736601785
$70 expansion pack lol
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It's not bad but definitely not going to be remembered as fondly, the only worthwhile thing about it was the building bullshit and the final boss
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>>736601785
boring sandbox game with crafting. it's been done hundreds of times before. It's a 4/10 without zelda bonus
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>>736602737
Gemmy
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>>736602737
>>736602992
samefag
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>>736601785
>>736603417
samefag
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>>736602852
The crafting shit is a real "content per tiktok clip" moment because gathering the materials necessary to have your machines last for more than 20 seconds takes an irritating amount of grinding for negligible gains over hitting stuff with your sword or riding your horse. Most people just build cars and the occasional airplane and thats it.
IMO the game's strength is how you can elemental infuse stuff with monster parts and the lead-ups to each dungeon. The lead-ups to the Rito, Zora, and Spirit dungeons were all particularly well done.
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>>736601785
It's a good game but it's a bad Zelda game
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>>736605198
What is a good Zelda game? Hard mode: no Zelda cycle nonsense.
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>>736603992
I don't disagree I don't like it much it got annoying fast but it's what most people will remember out of it, everything else isn't great either (story, world, puzzles, dungeons, caves and wells being repetitive and lacking...) but I agree the fuse stuff was fun, especially liked the constructs weapons fusing making completely new weapons and just making pretty much every enemy encounter worthwhileit was great, fusing a dragon part to a cool sword i found and getting an healing effect was kino
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>>736605494
Zelda cycle doesn't exist. It just people that were disappointed eventually move on, while fans come back to talk about their love of it (while shitting on newest entry). The people that were disappointed just don't care to talk about it anymore.
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It's so dumb that there's no infinite device unlockable, they had the perfect chance to either add it as a reward for completing certain amount of shrines or at least add a creative mode but no, you have to use the gacha thing.
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>person that did that 3 hour video calling TotK bad has said they're gonna do a video defending BotW

How the fuck is that going to even work. BotW has largely the same issues as TotK.

Weak story.
Weak dungeons.
Weak bosses.
Bad enemy variety.
Copy pasted shrines with mostly middling puzzles (and 20 Test of strength).
Poor rewards for exploration.
Poor Sidequest.

What mental gymnastics does one have to go through to HATE one but adore the other with all the above issues shared between both?
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>>736607807
To be fair there's a difference between doing it once while introducing a while new formula and doing it again after acting you fixed them. Also the story if BOTW is miles better, there's actual characters and the world fits better. But even then there's a difference between preferring botw over totk and HATING one over the other
But im not listening to a skittytranny video either way
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>>736601785
Bad sequel that barely connects with the previous game.
Almost everything you did in BotW was not recognized by anyone.
Shitty story telling like BotW again.
Pretty much empty underground sections where most of the rewards are just un-maliced versions of weapons you found or DLC outfits.
Shitty 5 min dungeons and shrines again.
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>>736605494
Almost everything aside from botw and totk
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>>736607970
I can easily see preferring one over the other but saying something like "BotW is on my Top 2 of ALLL TIME! TotK? That game is bottom 2 of all Zelda!" Seems pretty extreme. Then again Skittytrannies ranking of 3D Zelda is odd anyway (MM > BotW > OoT/SS > OoT/SS > TP >>>> TotK).
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Wouldn't have been so bad if it didn't take like 6 years for essentially the same game
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I wouldn't call the game bad.
But there were some truly dizzying game design decisions.
Like... why do I have to open a menu between every fucking arrow shot to fuse. That one just boils my piss.
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>>736601851
fpbp. Trannies cannot handle the truth that their beloved botw has been superceded by a better game.
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>>736601785
I think it's okay.
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>>736607990
>>736607970
>>736607729
>>736606567
Kill yourself eric
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>>736601785
no master mode difficulty setting
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>>736609513
>>736609047
>>736608898
>>736608228
Kill yourself eric
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>hourly OoTsnoy seething thread
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>>736605494
everything before TP
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>>736609738
>>736609858
Man, Eric is behind these posts?
I swear. He and Lucas always make fun of TotK.
And when George chimes in. Phew, then they're just being unreasonable.
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What level of irony do you have to be operating on to genuinely refer to someone as an "OoTsnoy"?
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uh oh totksnoy meltie
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>>736609910
>>736609918
>>736609969
Kill yourself eric, totk sold more than every """""ps5 games""""" :)
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>>736610060
What if Eric isn't the one behind those posts?
What if it's Jared or Michael?
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>>736609047
even if it just let you pin items at the start it'd be tolerable, but nope you're only allowed to sort by type, attack power, or most used
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>>736602737
>TotK
>Zelda
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>>736610303
Kill yourself eric you've been using that same argument for years
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>>736602281
>russian
This game has furries so he should love it.
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>>736610430
Okay, Snoy.
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>>736610578
meds
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>>736610578
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It's funny how outside of the op and the schizo both being console wars faggot, those threads often turn into genuine discussion about the game flaws now
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>>736607574
>"The Zelda cycle doesn't exist"
>while fans come back to talk about their love of it (while shitting on newest entry)
You're literally describing it lol
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>>736610843
so true sis
zelda needs to RVTVRN to OoT clones
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>>736610843
so true sis
zelda needs to RVTVRN to ubisloppa
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>>736610924
You wish it was that black and white :)
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>>736610578
>problem has existed for years
>problem hasn't been fixed
>"Why are you still complaining about this problem?"
where brain
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>>736610980
>t. retarded OoTsnoy that never liked the series
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>>736611053
>OoTsnoy
/v/ is plumbing depths which never needed to exist
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>>736610924
>>736610980
You two retard shoukd kiss
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>>736601785
Both new zelders are just playground sandbox games with a shitty plot.
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>>736601785
People expected BotW+MM, they got (BotW-First time experiencing it-Continuity)+Banjo-Kazooie Nuts and Bolts.
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>>736609969
>>736611105
>seethes at the same term twice
OoTsnoy is only ever used in reference to Sony fanboys that treat OoT like gospel because the success of BoTW and ToTK mindbroke them so hard. Case in point: this thread.
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>>736610848
>Zelda cycle exists only because of Zelda fans shitting on MY entry
Retard.
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>>736611225
>Sony fanboys that treat OoT like gospel
meds
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>>736611225
Why the fuck would a sony fan like OoT, dipshit?
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>>736611225
You are a Zelda secondary

In the hardcore Zelda community we hate botw and totk
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>>736611275
Because they're not worshiping BotW and Tiktok so they're Nintendo hating snoys.
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>>736602852
I stumbled onto the end boss fight after 2 temples and beat it, thus ending the game. Have no desire to go back and finish the rest.
Stumbling onto the wind temple 30mins into the game and getting to the top was cool, but not being able to start it until I backtracked, finished the quest, and did it all over again was super gay.
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>>736610848
What I mean is this:

1. Game comes out
2. Group A loves the game and Group B's negativity gets drowned out because circlejerk
3. Group A moves on to other stuff leaving Group B's negativity circlejerk
4. New game comes out Group A returns and talks about how "awful" new game is compared to previous game and return to sucking off previous game.
5. Group B direct their ire towards newest game and don't care to talk about the previous game anymore.

People don't suddenly flip. Group B still hates previous game, they just don't care to talk about it anymore hence why it can suddenly seem "loved" again.
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>>736611192
Good news to those "people", MM still exists.
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>>736602281
how do you even get doxxed from that?
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reminder that peak zelda would be a fusion of TOTK and WW
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>>736602023
>>736602069
>>736602281
It wasn’t Russian, it was a Venezuelan
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>>736611275
He’s just the poisoning the well so nobody can criticize him or those two games.
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>>736611295
ToTK and BoTW are the fully realized evolution of the original Zelda concept. The "OoT formula" was defined solely by oudated technical limitations. Further proof that OOTsnoy faggots don't actually know anything about Zelda and exist just to seethe at the Switch's success.
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expansion pack sequels are gay, TOTK should've been in the mold of Majora's Mask.

Create an entirely new story/setting/mechanics out of reused assets.
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>>736611424
>peak Zelda would be a fusion of prototype not-Zelda and not-Zelda
Well, we know what kind of fan (you) are.
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>>736601785
Buying a Switch has been one of the worst decisions I've ever done in my life, both this and BOTW are such soulless shit games that it makes me angry just thinking about the money I wasted on this trash
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>OoTsnoy is only ever used in reference to Sony fanboys that treat OoT like gospel because the success of BoTW and ToTK mindbroke them so hard.
What the fuck have consolewar faggots gone to?
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>>736611553
>>736611295
Oh shut the fuck up, Eric.
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>>736601869
fpbp
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>>736611529
It would actually require effort and passion, with how well botw sold it needed neither to sell
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>>736611295
>the hardcore Zelda community
Snoys aren't "the hardcore Zelda community".
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>>736611594
>>736611643
>1 minute apart
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>>736611573
You are surprised that people like this exist? Who do you think was buying BotW rereleases three fucking times at a higher price?
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>>736611529
We could have had a return to Termina with BotW Hyrule scale and polish. But MM is too "weird" and "dark" for a game that needed to sell 20 million to be considered a success.
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>>736611529
That’s why it was hyped so heavily. Then it finally came out and people realized there was very little change to BotW’s structure.
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>>736611702
tiktotkers aren't zelda fans
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>>736611275
They've been doing it for 9 years now.
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>OP has been sitting in her thread bumping it for 5 hours now
>still can't even get 100 replies
fatherless, autistic behavior
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>>736611537
think about it
>flooded nu-Hyrule with a magic boat and the Ultrahand
>islands are bigger than in WW and can connect to a massive underground network of caves, dungeons, and tunnels
>boat is repaired and upgraded over time with parts scavenged from driftwood, island wrecks, and pirate ship combat
>WW influence could add a greater emphasis on dungeons and semi-linear story and power progression instead of the nu-Zelda structureless "go anywhere whenever :)" philosophy
explain how this would be a bad zelda
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BoTW and ToTK both sold more than twice of OoT. BoTW and ToTK Switch 2 editions topped 2025 sales charts. The on-going juggernaut success of BoTW has been the biggest, prolonged assfucking snoys and OoT cucks have ever recieved.

I'm happy to be alive to see it unfold in real time. And now it's happening again and even harder with the Switch 2.
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>>736611721
People being famboy of their system is the usual but I can't wrap my head around the concept of a "ootsnoy" because he prefers the formula all the other 3d games had before 2017, it would be like calling someone an "ogtendie" for saying they miss the platforming of the original ratchet trilogy on ps2 or some shit, I guess it's trolling but it's so retarded, have people become so fucked by consolewars they take any kind of criticism or preference for older game as being a snoy/tendie?
Is it what famitsu threads are for 500 posts?
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>>736612282
>Famitsu seething out of nowhere
kek, so OoTfaggots really are snoys. I'm not even surprised.
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It's funny how /v/ has been shilling CD as the greatest game ever recently while pretending that the game it primarily copied is bad.
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>>736607807
totk is better than botw, also novelty wears off and doing the same shit a second time is not as fun, plus none of the games deserve a 97 on metacritic
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>>736612282
See >>736611329
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>name-calling
>appeal to revenue
It’s all they have left.
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>>736607970
>Also the story if BOTW is miles better
this is not true, botw has 0 story, the story is literally collectible cutscenes, it's garbage
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>>736601785
Legend of Zelda was never about vehicle gameplay. I barely engaged with the horses in BotW. I still liked both games.
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>>736612352
That's a yes i guess, bless your soul anon I hope you'll soon start enjoying games again instead of fighting over numbers
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>>736612495
>revenue and objective measures of success is bad
And then you wonder why your company is dying while Nintendo is more successful than ever.
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>>736609969
it's the same nintendo autist pedo calling everyone Eric
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I find it highly unlikely that everyone who dislikes TotK for any reason is named Eric.
That just seems statistically unlikely.
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I'm going to enjoy watching the snoy meltdown when the OOT remake adds BoTW elements.
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>>736612698
it is when its the same guy shitting the same thread out every few days that seems to fly under the trannyjannies radar
>>736602365
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>>736612515
It's not anything spectacular compared to other zelda games but it at least have characters and the memories were fun to collect back the, totk is retarded and give an order to Zelda memories so you'll oftne be confused or spoiled and the characters are forgettable outside of sonia, rauru (because of his name) and his sister. Ganondorf and the sages were jokes. There's a reason nobody cared about AoE compared to AoC, I want to play as Ravioli and Daruk, not sage 1 amd sage 2
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>>736601785
Most shameless rehash of any sequel in recent memory. Literally 99% of BotW's assets are recycled. Even the fanservice amiibo outfits. For a game that took 6 years to make it's a fucking embarassment. Why they didn't make a new world I have no clue.
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>>736612745
That's fine.
So long as there aren't any TotK elements
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>>736612772
100 rupees have been deposited into your wallet saar
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Why did TotK sell 1/3 less than its predecessor?
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>>736612698
How? ToTK is the most critically acclaimed of the decade. It's not unlikely one retard seethes at it
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>How? ToTK is the most critically acclaimed of the decade. It's not unlikely one retard seethes at it
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Am I an ootsnoy if Oot is my favorite zelda and I dislike botw/totk but I never owned a Playstation since the ps2?
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>>736612870
because it's been out for 3 years instead of 9 years
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>>736611529
If TotK actually turned out to be like MM, there would hardly be any bitching.
But nope,.Total actually turned about out.be Anti-BotW and anti-MM
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>>736612870
Leakers
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>>736612698
watch out he will start sperging about how you got
>raped
or you're
>sametrannying
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>>736612974
>and I dislike botw/totk
Yes.
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What type of gamer are you?
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>>736612616
>If it's successful it means it's good
Are you an investor anon? Or autistic? I only own a switch 2 but why should I give a fuck if Nintendo is selling billions as long as they make games? You can consider a game bad even if it sell well, the success is for thr company not for you or me
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>>736612870
Because it's just kinda lame. Why play a worse recycled version of BotW when BotW is still being sold? Mind you BotW isn't great but it's at least a wholly original product with something resembling a vision.
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>>736613187
I'll looking forward to your meltdown in the Famitsu thread tomorrow.
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>another eric melty
so what did nintendo announce now
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>>736612974
You are to tendies, yes.
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>>736613127
>the "exciting" method takes twice as long as the "boring" method
Also the actual end result of being bored with koroks is to just skip them because they're slop content and the seeds give diminishing returns.
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So did Nintendo announce something?
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>>736613287
>Wasting time jerking off to X game selling x copies
I'm finishing up the mario wonder dlc and trying out pokemon champion tommorow, playing games is fun you know, probably will play Majora too since I got a free week end afterwards (which is better than Totk yes)
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>>736613491
No, you can stop asking this retarded question every time you get raped
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>>736613413
You didn’t want Hestu’s golden poop as a reward again?
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I can tell Nintendo stock is going up and something good happened because Eric and OoT fanboys are seething twice as hard.

What did I miss?
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>>736613413
the best part about koroks is finding them under rocks because you get to mash B and drop the rock directly on their head as soon as their dialogue is over
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This fanboy spammer has been melting down at criticism of nu-Zelda for NINE YEARS, blud when are you gonna get a job? Or have sex? I only pop in here off and on since BotW came out and so much shit has happened to me, yet you are still exactly the same. How? Why?
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>>736613512
>Majora is better than ToTK
The amount of snoy delusion and contrarianism In one statement is laughable.
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>>736613597
i think Sony announced some bad news
or something
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>>736613538
Here’s my userpage from the nso app :) I can send you my friend code if you want to play kirby
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>>736602749
Yep, if the depths had the variety and additional content of the mod that’s now out then I think people would have been much more forgiving. What they released just feels so empty, and it’s supposed to be a major feature of the game.
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>>736613148
Mentally ill spambot
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>>736613714
>2500h in splatoon 3
i kneel
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It's an insultingly lazy assetflip "sequel" that took 7 years to come out for no reason at all. Not that BOTW was even great to begin with
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>>736601869
/thread

hope Op gets hemorroids.
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I enjoyed the game but never finished it despite putting like 200 hours in.
The story just doesn't comply you to continue it and with all the content you just end up exploring and forgetting what you were supposed to do.
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>>736613714
>french
ew
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>>736601785
Too derivative of BOTW
Story sucked ass and didn't mesh as well with the open world formula as BOTW's story. You basically knew the main plot before you left the Great Plateau and were just told to go kill Ganon which was cool, and everything else was just fluff. You can't even make sense of TOTK's story unless you get the memories and you need to get them in a certain order for some reason; I got the final one first and it spoiled everything.
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>>736613714
>Splatoonfags are ootsnoys
Like clockworks
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>The Secret Stones?
SHUT UP
SHUT UP
SHUT UP
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>>736613976
Demon King?
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>>736613976
what
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>>736613742
What mod?
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>>736613676
If i was a snoy wouldn't i love totk since it's the same formula with a large open world with nothing to do and a bad story? Majora's mask is too kino amd gameplay focused for them
>>736613767
I bought a switch 2 just for raiders i'm a proud splatfag and calliefag
>>736613785
>Fell for the bot
I lost...
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>>736601785
This thread was made by Eric. He's a snoy and a massive OoT fanboy that's been spamming /v/ with anti-Nintendo pedaling for a good decade. He's a weekly villain in Famitsu threads and he reports them over and over for calling him out or for spreading facts he thinks needs to be hidden from /v/ (namely sales of Nintendo hardware and software compared to PlayStation and Steam Deck).

If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's Eric. If you see posts saying Sonic CrossWorlds is better than MK World, it's Eric. If you see the same posts sucking Iwata's dick, it's Eric. If you see the same anti-Nintendo threads popping up over and over, it's Eric. If you see the same posts shilling piracy and emulators, it's Eric. If you see someone denying the existence of Eric and calling him a made-up boogeyman, it's Eric. If you see someone unironically using terms like "tendies" or "Switchfags" and making hyperbolic statements, it's Eric. If you see a red OP image with a Nintendo-related thing, asking some dumb open question, it's Eric. If you see the same repeated lines over and over again, it's Eric samefagging. If you see a massive wall of replies to one post, it's Eric samefagging himself, they'll all be a minute apart. He's always resetting his router and ban evading, and flooding the catalog, and he's got at least a few gigabytes of CP to end any thread that isn't going his way.

He's also a massive GameCube/N64 fanboy that was so buckbroken by BoTW's commercial and critical success that he's determined to make it the most despised game in history, he wants to change the narrative and reverse the damage against him.
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>>736614161
how does one same tranny
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>>736614217
to be fair, those hardware sales threads are just retarded since its all wild guesses, no better than vgcharts
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>>736614197
>I bought a switch 2 just for raiders i'm a proud splatfag and calliefag
based and same except i'm a mariefag
raiders news never
splatoon 4 never
salmon run third wave never
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>>736613910
>>736613991
It was too derivative of botw. Nintendo thought they could double dip on goty awards with largely the same game, and they likely would have got away with it in a lot of years, but Sven was fortunately there to humble Aonuma.
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>>736613742
The sky islands should’ve received more content since it what was marketed the heaviest.
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>>736614468
how do you same tranny
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>>736610712
I hate that nobody brings up the real issue here: why is there so much filler? You will not use more than 5% of those items, even in a best case scenario. It just feels like they wanted to pad out the world with garbage. And since you have limited control of your inventory, it's just trash you have to deal with seeing regularly. A filter only goes so far in getting rid of the crap you don't want to see.
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>>736614127
It’s called Depths of the Kingdom
https://gamebanana.com/mods/578624
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I would have liked tears of the kingdom a lot if it were a $30 expansion that released in 2019 or 2020. But that it was a full priced game released six years after BotW was insane. I pirated it and I still felt cheated.

If it took them six years to develop TotK, how long is going to take them to make a whole brand new BotW-style game from scratch? Another decade? What is going on with Nintendo's development cycles?
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>>736614429
Trying to outdo SS was the problem, they should have focused on the depths with no sky islands or Hyrule. The concept of going deep underground to fight an ancient evil was solid, just needed way more variety on every level.
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>>736601785
BotW sold itself on removing most mechanic and conventions of the series, and replaced it with a gigantic empty open world and janky physics "puzzles", and it sold more copies than any Zelda by multiple times. So TotK just took those elements and magnified them exponentially, further removing any semblance to older Zelda games. And it worked again, it sold amazingly for $70 a pop for a copypaste asset flip game.

tl;dr Money and normalfags ruined the series
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>>736614536
Thanks.
If I ever get bored enough to replay TotK I'll check it out
Only thing missing is more dungeons but that's asking a lot for a fan mod
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>>736614346
Mariefags are based ever since we sweeped the Grand Festival together. I'm convinced raiders was announced way too early to sell the console to japs.
Now hoping for this summer...
And based I still want a game with a focus on salmon run, I loved the arena map they added, finally getting into their territory was way too kino. Fuck pvp i need more pve salmon runners are people too
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>>736614609
I agree. An entire underground world that kept going deeper with different biomes and bizarre life would have been comfy. It also would have had the twist that MM gave OOT by having the traditional first game and then the weird/experimental follow up.
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>>736614609
That would’ve been a great subversion for sure.
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>>736601785
No one in the Zelda veteran community liked this slop. I'm glad it flopped.
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>>736614979
And the weirdness could have allowed for more off-the-wall level design built around Ultrahand. It could have been so good. Nintendo is just retarded I guess.
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>>736614979
Sounds like a Zelda version of Super Metroid. I can dig it.
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>>736614905
hell yeah we need more salmon run, best wave defense mode of all time
i don't even play pvp anymore, i'm waiting for 4 and hoping we get better netcode and a new meta
i really want the next salmon run to have a Helldivers style metagame so grinding the game has some kind of reward other than useless chunks
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>>736615076
but i liked it though albeit
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>>736615034
but i liked it though albeit
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BotW?
Better story
Better Puzzles
Better UI
Worse everything else (bosses, sideways, combat, ending, variety)

TotK:
Better Dungeon lead ups/(marginally)Dungeons and Sage involvement
Better bosses
Better variety
Better ending
Better sidequest
Worse UI
Worse Puzzles
Worse story

Prove me wrong /v/.
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>>736601785
don't you have some cities to rebuild Zach?
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>>736615323
what the fuck
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>No traditional zelda items which could have solved some of the issues with the game
>Stamina
>YOUR MASTER SWORD BROKE
>Boring, shitty bland empty world
>Underground was even more pointless
>Shit dungeons
>Shit bosses
>Master sword was weaker than the one in BOTW because you could glue shit to it
Both games just suck, hence the toddler defense force here.
Watch, one of them will go down my list one by one, say I suck and call me Eric.
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>this one fucking schizo posting 50 times per thread
i love /v/ sometimes
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OoT fanboys have such a severe case of Nintendo Derangement Syndrome, it's insane.
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>>736615280
No, I think you’re right. Botw’s greatest strength over Totk is probably its atmosphere and the cohesiveness of its world to its game design. The Fuse ability is like a perfect allegory for the tacked on additions they made to the map for totk.
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>>736615504
how do you know you aren't the tranny
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>>736601785
It wasn't. Why do you ask?
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>>736615280
>TotK:
>Worse [Anything]
Uh oh. You sound like an Eric, anon.
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>>736615191
Based, haven't played in a hot minute because I got bored of the metashit but I liked the new aura system, I'm really hoping that 4 gets better maps over anything, I miss the open maps of 1 so fucking bad. I really hope they do anything with salmon run, it was shafted hard in 3 even if big run were kino, I need more of anything salmon run, either it is single player to expand on them or pve with more modes, give me those scrapped modes Nogami
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>mfw it's an eric thread
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It's pretty easy, New = Good.
So obviously totk is better than botw, and Echoes of wisdom is better than both. Oot released so long ago it's shit, but if they remake it it's new again so it's the best and deserve it's best game of all time title
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QRD on eric?
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>>736616694
Deranged OoT fanboy/snoy that seethes at Nintendo and the Switch.
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>>736616694
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>>736616694
See >>736614217
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>>736616694
Nintendo hating schizo who probably made this thread, but he's not smart enough to actually discuss the game, so most of the posts that are discussing it and not just reposting webm is a real person criticizing the game, the guy spamming "nice sametrannying" is either him or someone mindbroken by him, he's mostly in the famistu threads that are for schizos and brownoids that love console wars too
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>>736610712
>goes past several things that does the thing he wants to do
>doesn't press this button to go to the top of the listing

This is so weak that I completely believe it's still being posted.
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>>736616796
>>736616812
>>736616852
>>736616869
Isn't that the Zelink tranny?
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>>736616915
The Zelink guy is a Switchchad. Eric is an OOTsnoy.
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>>736616903
That webm is retarded but doesn't change the main issue of that UI still being dogshit to be fair
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>>736611295
Not true at all, actually.
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What if I love OOT, like BOTW but really dislike the Playstation and totk, am i still an ootsnoy? Or just a ootfag? A botwsnoy?
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>I can’t defend the game so here’s me bringing up my boogeyman for the millionth time
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>>736617067
Uh oh.
You didn't suck off TotK and condemn anything Nintendo made between 96 and 2017.
You sound like a secret Consolewar operative for Sony, Eric.
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I want to cum inside Mineru's rabbit pussy.
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>>736617326
If I say ALTTP is way better than TOTK and OOT (because it is) am i an alttpsnoy too?
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>>736617326
Then maybe you GameCube/64 fanboys shouldn't behave like Snoys then. Talk shit get hit, simple as.
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>>736616973
>OOTsnoy.

Wait OOT as in ocarina of time and snoy as in Sony

So a Sony lover that loves ocarina of time a nintendo game?

Sorry, I'm not up to date on my memes.
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Or "rabussy" if you will.
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>>736617583
And behaving like a Blizzdrone makes you... what?
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>>736617610
A retard who believes OOT and older zelda games are better than BOTW/TOTK
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>>736617610
Have you been in a coma since BoTW came out? Snoys have been cockgargling OoT for 9 years.
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>>736617669
>OOT and older zelda games are better than BOTW/TOTK

But they are. There's a reason OoT is number one
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>>736617669
But how does that equate to "snoy"?
That part sounds retarded.
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I want to cum on Josha's glasses.
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>>736616481
i miss 2's maps the most, a nice middle ground between 1's openness and 3's hypercompetitive lanes
what were the scrapped modes?
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>>736616694
Fyi the first four replies to you are all the same person
It's a fanboy schizo spammer projecting
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>OOTSNOY
Aren't snoy the one calling it overrated trash and ugly or whatever? If I want to be a good tendie do I have to shit on OOT? What the fuck are you people doing
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>>736602273
This. TotK would have been the best DLC of all time...but it is a full priced standalone game instead.
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>>736617770
Cute nerd
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>>736617725
It sounds retarded because it is retarded. Don't try to make sense of schizo babble.
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>>736617326
the 64 through the wii u fucking sucked if you were a console only nintendo fan
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I liked Purah more when she was a loli.
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>>736616796
Okay but why "Eric"?
Where are you getting the literal name?
What about Eric has inspired you to call him "Eric" over "Bob" or something?
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>>736617841
>you people
It's one guy
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MILF Purah with loli Purah’s dress
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these threads are so fucking retarded, worse than twitter screencaps and gacha gooner threads, why does the jannytranny insist on leaving it up
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>>736617967
because then it would be /v/indendogaf or whatever that website is
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>>736617927
Is it? I can't tell with how much he's spamming his shit
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>>736601785
It's not bad, i had fun with it, but it should have been a priced as a dlc and sold as one.
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>>736617967
Who do you think is the one posting this stupid bullshit?
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>>736617927
>>736618135
But enough about you, Eric.
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And I thought monster hunter threads were bad. Zelda fans have it rough on/v/
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>>736618254
I like Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom
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>>736617648
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I... had more fun with OOT than totk... sorry bros... what playstation should i buy now that i'm a snoy?
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I thought bore of the wild was fucking awful. The idea of ever playing that game again fills me with dread.
I disliked totk too initially but it became my most played game last year with the switch 2 upgrade. I should really go back and beat it one of these days.
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>>736618535
this board is so fucking kino what the FUCK is this
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Ootsnoy is the funniest concept ever, sounds like a cool guy, he love his Playstation and also loves ocarina of time and the gamecube era of Nintendo that also had great games, good taste he should try odyssey and bananza if he liked sunshine
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Is the oot stuff because Aonuma said it was stupid to prefer linear games?
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>>736618135
He's been doing this since BotW came out. So almost a decade. Yes, he is that deranged and pathetic. I'd love to know what his life is like, he must be getting some kind of gibs or have doormat parents.
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>>736618969
Talking about yourself, Eric?
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A shitted and flopped "zelda" game made for normalfags just like BOTW but with a more retarded physics system. Anyone sucking this off are usually mentally ill tendie schizos thinking this game is the second coming of christ similiar to runefags who all thing that video games are whatever Toby Fox shits out.
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It wasn't bad just was took two long a sequel that was too similiar.
As a sequel it's bad
As a stabdalone it's peobably good
But Hyrule didn't change enough and the new additions were lacklusters. The wells/caves especially were a big letdown
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>>736601785
As someone who just picked it back up after a few years, Its just BOTW again for the most part. BOTW laid down a good baseline and while it had flaws, they could be forgiven for being the first Zelda game of its kind, It was Tears of the Kingdom's job to iron out those flaws and build upon what was established and it just... didnt. Most of the time I just feel like I'm playing BOTW flaws and all, and anything new TOTK added (The Depths and The Sky Islands) feels underbaked. It was originally supposed to be a DLC, and it shows.
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>>736619647
basically this
BOTW was an alpha and TOTK was a beta
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>>736619881
Which one is the Sigma?
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>>736619975
zelda notes app
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>>736619975
Zelda 1 ( it have better dungeons and exploration)
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>>736619975
Link's Crossbow Training.
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>>736617841
It's complicated
So imagine that way back in 2017 you had the end of the WiiU and Switch was just starting. Iwata passed away a few years before and Nintendo was going through it's stash earned from Wii success. BotW is anticipated but is so radically different that it was a target for being painted as "not a real zelda" or that it was downgraded and had all its content removed. See pic.
Some people thoughts shitposting on anonymous forums would convince people not to buy the game or that it was a failure and would lead to the death of Nintendo. Instead it was a huge success and was regarded as one of the most prominent games of the decade.
Jump ahead a few years to 2023 and you have TotK.
Not learning any lessons you now have the consoles in the opposite position. The Switch in a strong position and PS5 struggling with exclusives and price rises. Instead of learning from the past, they try it again, not accepting that sequels can be similar, it's blasted as being dlc or ripping off other games which play completely differently. This happens hundreds of times, daily since release. A few examples that isn't even all of them.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/sRbRGxczk9bT4ouLrbjSNw/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/307mDT1VbPqGX_mmruX34A/
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/xSsMS88NbF3ZYqqf5m85cg/
The tactic became not letting people discuss the game, just making up wrong things that are easily verifiable and then using a fake persona with replies linked to both their own spam posts and others attempting to talk about the game. A few bait webm's like >>736610712 and people mostly gave up trying to talk about the game, knowing it would get 100 replies from the schizo.
The term OoTSnoy is an attempt to fracture old and new fans of the same series. Using the general opposition between the two consoles to try and imply liking one or the other makes you a fake fan. Nobody buys it but he keeps pushing the idea.
Now imagine if it was one guy for a decade
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>>736602737
SAVED
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>>736617841
Don't try to make sense of the schizo baby talk these retards try to push. You'll be a lot happier.
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>>736619975
sigma balls
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>>736620067
So it's all schizos fighting taking advantage of the slightly mixed reception of totk to shitpost and somehow link it to consolewars? Boring
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>>736620067
is this the same guy as blunderfag
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>>736620401
Probably. We have too many schizos and too often they turn out to be the same fucker that for some reason isn't range banned.
The fucking post above this confirms exactly what I said in the explaining post.
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I don't like the zonai, their story or what they add to the gameplay so i couldn't like the gameplay. I'm still pissed off at them using the name Imprisoning war àd Rauru for completely different bullshit, Ganondorf too honestly. I woul d have liked totk more if it expanded on the sheikah and didn't make the zonai a copy paste
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>>736620612
>I'm still pissed off at them using the name Imprisoning war àd Rauru for completely different bullshit
It saddens me how much they’ve tried to sully the past contributions of people like Tezuka, Koizumi, Osawa, and even Tanabe. And then they have the audacity to say “lol it’s still all connected” when it obviously isn’t.
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>>736620612
My issue is that the Sheikah already filled the Magitech angle.
If you're going to make Zonai powers, make it full-on Magic
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>>736601785
"hey guys lets make a whole underground area and just copy paste bokoblin camps ad infinitum"
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>>736602273
Yeah I liked BotW well enough but that shit was not worth waiting 6 years for. Like how does your eyebrow not even raise slightly upon seeing that 90% of the secret loot in the game is just recycled amiibo rewards from the first one
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the first two hours of TOTK is amazing, and then the game declines as you discover how everything the game has to offer you is just different versions of what you already saw on the tutorial islands
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>>736611516
>having to nitpick images despite most of this is an inaccurate rep and the fact no one on this bored besides a few would get these references, this is normies your talking about the only know old zelda like ocarina or windwaker and twilight or even older, the team had to copy banjo kazooie nuts and bolts and gmod to throw mechanics in this game instead improving on this game to make it more adventurous, like actually camping and actual cooking, or even rescuing instead of making it into a building game N12523

seriously who is employing these people to say this shit even the boat part looks nothing alike, considering that image was when he was out in sea? also camping there's barely any camping mechanics it's just temperament shit and a shitty version of cooking shit that you could just find one of those pots to cook shit, another fact the campfires temperament loses value once you get those cold-resistant clothes in that one town in botw i forgot the name since it's been 3 years since i played it after pretty much done everything since beating the boss just throws you into a sandbox direction when you've already beaten all there's to do is to load back in when you didn't beat it is just wander the lands of boring areas
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>>736622371
*Board and *that mb for the autocorrects and spelling mistakes
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>>736611275
Because the N64 and Gamecube were colossal failures so they want Nintendo to be dead. That's apparently when Nintendo was at their best, bleeding money and pumping out unfinished rushed dogshit to just scrape by.
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>>736622729
I don't give a shit about any company making money.
I liked the game.
the "success of the company" is a complete nonfactor to me.
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>>736601869
Fpbp
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>>736622729
this is like calling someone a bloodbornetendie because they criticise elden ring
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>>736621520
Because most people probably didn't buy the Amiibo toys.
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>>736622796
>I don't give a shit about any company making money.
You should, since Nintendo has outright confirmed they will never make an OoT clone ever again. And this makes the retards who grew up with dogshit called the N64 and OoT shit their pants.
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>>736601785
nintendo baited everyone (again) promising this time for sure the game would have an story and instead it was a bunch of vague flashbacks (again)
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>>736623057
>oot
>dogshit
Kill yourself
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>>736623057
Why... should that make me care about the fiscal success of a company?
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>>736623167
>>oot
>>dogshit
Correct. It killed 3D Zelda for years. I'm glad I'm finally getting my series back.
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>>736622729
>Gamecube massive failure
not to me i actually enjoyed a plethora of games like baten kaitos, that one game with the boy with mechanical arm, dr muto, viewful joe 1 and 2, freedom fighters, a boatload of racing games from series like need for speed and mario kart, r:racing evolution and that shitty gt pro series game and had 2 games that i wished were actual continued games like p.n.0.3 and donkey kong bongos
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>>736622894
Ok Duskbloodsmicrojeet
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>>736623229
>game is telling you they’re arrows and not just triangles
What’s the problem?
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>>736623030
I've always wondered do you ever take a break from ever spamming this cause anyone with an actual life would not be spamming on a forum board for the rest of their lives, which pretty much tells me that you could be brown in a middle eastern country with too much time on their hands
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>the game that created 3D Zelda
>killed 3D Zelda
They’re grasping for straws today.
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>>736623229
>the first 3D zelda killed 3D zelda
>>736623326
>Duskbloodsmicrojeet
this board is fucking unusable, i love it
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>>736623229
I almost fell for it kek
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>>736623370
>game treats you like a retard and blatantly gives you the answer to the puzzle
It's game made for literal toddlers.
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>>736601785
It's just BoTW but with more nuts 'n' bolts.
It's actually marginally better than BotW because it has a lot more tools in the toolbox to play with, while BotW didn't really have all that much.
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>>736623229
>It killed 3D Zelda
>was literally the start of 3D Zelda
Based retard
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>>736617669
So, normal people?
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>>736623481
>offended because he’s a retard
See?
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>>736623503
Yes, it was the first 3D Zelda and killed the rest of the 3D games. It doesn't have exploration and the rest of the game copied all the worst aspects of it like the terrible dungeon design and non-existent overworld.
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>>736623610
Are you brown?
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>>736614530
Individual elements of the game are great but overall it feels tedious. The main issue is it’s missing the Nintendo polish of making the game itself feel fun and instead it leans into padding with an overwhelming amount of content to create the illusion of polish.
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Stop replying to obvious bait.
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>>736623647
Holy cope

>like the terrible dungeon design and non-existent overworld.
Lel
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>>736623314
Those are third party games. I'm talking about Nintendo's abysmal lineup like Sunshine and Windwaker.
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>>736623716
No cope, you just don't understand level design.
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>>736623716
It's an obvious troll post anon don't waste time on that. We love Ocarina of Time here
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>>736623610
im going to take that as a yes, that you're a brownoid in a middle eastern shithole.
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>>736623898
You are brown
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>>736623939
Don't reply to it, it doesn't even own a switch 2
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>TOTKfag gets btfo again
>goes back to pitting 2Dfags against 3Dfags with his bait .webm
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>>736623612
You can cry all you want but Miyamoto himself said OoT was a moviegame designed for stupid kids. None of the other Zelda games has a label attached like that to it, not even WW and the DS ones.
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>>736623198
Because you need to make one of them your personality and go to war with other people for not defending every single game they make. You NEED to go jerk off to Pokopia selling well in the famitsu threads. Our god and savior? Wii sport of course.
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>>736623784
elaborate
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>>736605198
pretty much
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>>736623610
Say the line again bart!
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>>736624335
Thanks :D
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>Nobody ever mention EoW
Was it that bad?
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The reason why Snoys love OoT and hate BoTW is because they love linearity and despise freedom. They like OoT for things like auto-jumping and story focus over actual freedom and gameplay. This becomes painfully obvious with the way they seethe at BoTW and ToTK.
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>>736624335
Say the line!
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>>736624440
Holy shit
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>>736624335
Say it again!
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>>736624440
based retard
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>>736624440
I admit it.... I despise Super Mario Odyssey but love Super Mario 3d world... I love the ps5
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>>736624535
This not a good look, William :-)
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>>736624432
Because it had TotK’s flaws in a 2D game.
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>>736624601
>>736624535
David is SEETHING. Still mad Metroid Prime 4 flopped? You will never get over Twilight Princesses 8.8 rating btw
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https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/filename/1454857557618/
>OOTsnoy
>Digimonsnoy
>Gamecubesnoy
>PCsnoy
>Palworldsnoy
>Segasnoy
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>>736624576
>>736624519
>gets exposed
>immediate meltdown
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>>736601785
extremely bland story, reused world, it's just a sandbox tech demo
>dude guess what, ancient high tech civilization story again!!
lol
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>>736624858
If you don't want us to call you a snoy then maybe you should stop behaving like one.
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>>736624978
And they did it again with Age of Imprisonment.
>These robots are dangerous. We must seal them away underground so we can get killed by Ganon later on
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>>736625021
>he admits it’s just a buzzword and has nothing to do with snoys
Good pup.
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>>736624440
Bless your soul you beautiful retard, I almost spitted my water laughing
No, anon, preferring linear games doesn't mean you prefer story or hate gameplay and even less that you're a snoy
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>>736625021
>I call you snoy because im trans and have nothing to refute
nta but you fags call everyone snoys, so this is really prevalent, you can't really say this when this all you say when criticism comes your way.
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>>736625089
AoI was a mistake and a half.
They heard
>Why make AoC if it's noncanon?
And they decided that making one wherein you're playing literally who and the gang fighting OCs in the Rauru war was the right idea.
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>>736624217
All the dungeons are like themeparks with different colored walls that use the same shitty hub and spoke design, where you walk down a linear path into isolated, segmented rooms that don't connect with each other while the puzzles play out the same way that doesn't take advantage of 3D space, where you don't do anything but just walk right up to an interactable object in the environment (which you don't need to even scan the room for since Navi just flies towards it holding your hand even more) and use the item you just got in the dungeon to do more of the same thing you've been doing, and the item is always the same thing, you're never getting something unexpected. Even worse is the boss design which aren't real bosses, you use the dungeon item to stun the boss three times and then wail on them. The OoT formula is inherently bad, lazy, outdated (even when it first came out), and completely dead end game design. It's boring, repetitive, and formulaic since they aren't designed to be actual dungeons, but just a series of puzzles in a row (because of Aonuma). There's nowhere to go from there, that's why TP and SS made no advancements because it's just a dead end in how you can design them and copied the exact formula down to a T. That's why Nintendo dropped it. And the overworld isn't even a world, its just a flat hub with nothing on it but maybe a ramp and a couple of trinkets nobody cares about. There's no actual level design. No scenarios you go through. You just walk up to an NPC, he tells you that you can't enter here yet until you get a key item, then you walk to where the key item is, get it and walk back.
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>>736610430
It's as much of a Zelda game as FFXIII is a FF game.
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>>736625258
What, insulting AoI is a no-no too?
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>>736625207
>Qrd on how this retard manages to get away with spam?
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I actually quite liked TOTK
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>>736625473
F..FUCK!
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>>736619463
>The wells/caves especially were a big letdown
The caves in TotK are peak Zelda. They shit all over the optional areas in previous 3D Zelda games 10 times over.
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>>736624440
Jesus christ, >>736620067 was right. This is pathetic.
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What a funny thread
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>they hate Aonuma for designing 3D dungeons in past games
>they love Aonuma for removing dungeons in open-world games
Kek they’re not even denying it anymore.
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>>736625856
>removing dungeons
BotW and TotK are the only 3D Zelda's with good dungeon design.
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>>736624440
Yup yup yup, I, proud REAL nintendo fan, LOVES spider man 2 and ghost of yotei and fucking DESPISE Ocarina of time and Kirby and The Forgotten Land.
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Eric has a huge dick, my sister told me
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>>736626035
You shitpost but there is objectively no difference between a game like OoT and the Norse GoW games.
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I won.
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Kek he’s fucking losing it.
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>>736601785
Because it's essentially Gary's Mod for Breath of the Wild.
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>>736625695
Nice samefagging, Eric.
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>>736625257
you're not wrong, but the absence of hub-and-spoke and key-item design doesn't give you freedom so much as it takes away well-defined tools and progression
in BOTW and TOTK, there are very nearly no real limitations on what you can do at any point in the game other than having enough stamina or hearts to tank something
you get away from keys and boomerangs, but what do you gain in exchange? you get to cheese every dungeon with the glider and wallclimbing, you get progression for the sake of it and for pointless trinkets rather than for accessing crucial equipment or items or skills or vantage points
everything is accessible and everything is surmountable with creativity or persistence... which means nothing actually matters and designed solutions end up taking more time than cheesing them with a zonai device or a cheeky wallclimb and glide
it's exemplary of the phrase "limitation breeds creativity" - here you're given so much freedom that you're forced to make your own fun because the game gives you the same type of do-anything-anywhere-anytime fun for every single challenge across hundreds of hours of copy-pasted content
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>>736626147
I don't get how that's apparently a bad thing.
It's not exactly accurate but with what's intended that's the sort of sandbox freedom that's great in an open world game.
It even manages to remove the hassle of how you control each vehicle whilst not messing it up. It just works, even when attempting stuff that you wouldn't expect like paddles for boats instead of a fan motor.
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Eric mindbroke them
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>>736601785
would've been a good dlc
but not as a fully priced $70 game
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I..I.. like Ocarina of Time...
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>>736626315
>well-defined tools and progression
Not bothering reading the rest if you're such a retarded nostalgifaggot pretending OoT's one trick pony tools are well-designed when they only function as keys to open lock doors and not as versatile upgrades and tools with many different options for the player to discover.
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>>736626378
Why? The shape of the map is the same but everything else in it is different.
It's like going from Spiderman 1 to Spiderman 2 and complaining that New York has the same roads and buildings in it.
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>>736615034
>20 million copies sold is a flop now?
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>>736626510
hookshot gives you traversal options
sorry you're too retarded to have taste and appreciate anything other than getting to win instantly
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>>736626503
More than TOTK/BOTW?
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>>736626147
>game is essentially other game entirely
dumb
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>>736626547
Yes
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>>736601785
It's a lazy, uncreative entry made by someone who hates Zelda and makes shitty fanfic OC donut steel furry characters.
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>>736626605
You hate Nintendo
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>>736626558
>game is the same as the previous game with DLC content, but priced as a whole new game.
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>>736626543
>hookshot gives you traversal options
It doesn't give you traversal options, you can only use the hookshot on designated spots where you're allowed to use it. It also doesn't have any other function for movement then using the terrible aiming controls. You what is an actual traversal option, a basic manual jump that OoT clones don't even give you. That's laughably pathetic compared to every other action adventure/rpg around the same time frame.
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>>736601785
The tear cutscenes being out of order does not work. It worked in breath of the wild because it the final one was hidden. In tears you could see the final one first and be spoiled forever. The building thing is fun but I am going to do the easy way every time like everyone will.The "dungeons" are bad. The caves are boring. The fact no one remembers link is stupid. The combat is still bad like the first one I hate this game and they had the gall to charge 70 for this.
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The story of TOTK is miles better than OOT but you people are too nostalgiabrained to get it
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>It doesn't give you traversal options, you can only use the hookshot on designated spots where you're allowed to use it.
yeah just like how wallclimbing doesn't give you traversal options because you can only use it on surfaces that are angled 60 degrees or more from the ground
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>>736626862
Correct, that's not a traversal option. That's a key to open a lock door. Which is shit game design.
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>>736626862
I applaud you for entertaining him anon
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>>736626901
right, which in comparison makes TOTK's toolset five keys that unlock every door in the game after 2 hours
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>>736626848
>Secret Stones?
>Demon King?
ayyy he thought they were cooking
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Hmm.. Today i think i will sametranny again
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>>736627023
How are items/upgrades you can use in a variety of ways a key? They don't exist to open a locked door, they exist to facilitate exploration. How does the Hookshot in OoT make exploration any different?
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>>736626960
Stay mad OoT clones are dead and buried. Good riddance.
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>How are items/upgrades you can use in a variety of ways a key?
>>736626901
>Correct, that's not a traversal option. That's a key to open a lock door.
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>>736627253
>makes TOTK's toolset five keys
Again, I know you want to pretend you're smart but how is items/upgrades you can use in a variety of ways a key?
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>>736626659
>sequel is like prequel
shocked pikachu
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>>736627253
>if I post Nintendo images, people won't realize I'm a snoy!
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>>736627418
Post splatoon playtime
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>>736626623
Wow I can't believe Miyamoto created the Zonai.
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Oot snoy
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Faces of Evil snoy
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Me? Proud adventure of Link snoy
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>>736623738
i left this thread because it was devolving into a bunch of retards actual calling totk a masterpiece and the constant spam of that brownoid but yeah, they were 3rd party yet i still enjoyed them on the gamecube since some of those were the ones i borrowed from my brother and the fact i enjoyed them even if it was somewhat flawed games
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>>736627606
lol that's me
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>>736627303
how is the hookshot not a traversal item when it hooks you to literally any wood surface and not just designated puzzle solution locations?
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>>736627718
:(
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>>736602273

Fucking underground and sky. Should've scrapped those and instead add big fortresses and dungeons.

Amazing how much I love BotW and how underwhelming TotK feels.
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>>736627764
You can also use it to hook to enemy and bring them to you/stun them, it's kino how you can use it as an alternate way to get to gerudo desert to skip epona
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>>736601785
It wasn't bad, but AoI makes it better
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>>736628019
She's talking about bokoblin babies btw
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>>736627538
Not even Miyamoto would make something as ugly as the Zonai
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is it tears or tears?
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I really want to replay OOT now
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>>736627764
You just explained why. What function for exploration does it has that's not for accessing a locked door? You're pretending that lock and key gating leads to better game design, but it doesn't. It leads to boring exploration and tedious puzzles. You're not doing much actual puzzle solving or exploration, you're following a rigid linear path purely through a singular route. That's a one-way solution, the item solely exists to pass the arbitrary door the devs placed. Puzzles and situations are always cleared in the same exact way everytime, using the designated item and pushing the block in a key -> lock manner - likewise with the boss fights (dungeon item three times). That's the definition of a key.
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>>736628187
Been waiting for the TP PC port personally.
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>>736628187
Play it on the Playstation and become a true OoTsnoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtrVb76vRh4
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>>736627923
You can even cheese parts of the Water Temple by hookshotting the central tower targets at the right angle and then performing a well timed jump slash. It's a bit tricky to pull off though.
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>>736627923
Hookshot only does that in MM, not OoT. In OoT, hookshotting on an enemy like say; Redeads or Gibdos, it will pull you to them while stunning them.
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>>736624432
EoW was lame. Grezzo had only made highly flawed remasters of old games up until EoW and it shows. Has the frontloaded progression and excessive menuing of BotW/TotK while wearing the skin of a classic 2D Zelda without any of the charm or craft. Summoning small armies was kinda fun but that's about it. The echoes were laughably imbalanced, very easy to break the level design. Visuals were horrible, less expressive than the fucking DS games and recycled a lot from the LA remake. Dungeons were all forgettable. The rifts are like the tears of light segments on steroids, got old super fast. Map was a bad reference to LttP. Story was nothing special and was really weird about referencing Zelda staples (e.g. calling the Triforce "Prime Energy") despite seemingly being a fanservice game. Tri is the most boring companion in the franchise, makes Fi look good. Doesn't even really feel like a "playable Zelda" game because she has no personality and doesn't have any of her own spells or abilities, Tri basically does all the work, even her super ability is transforming into Link. Overall a big disappointment after going so long without a new 2D Zelda. I will never forgive Aonuma for disbanding the ALBW team
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>>736628327
>What function for exploration does it has that's not for accessing a locked door?
i don't think you've ever played OOT
>You're pretending that lock and key gating leads to better game design, but it doesn't. It leads to boring exploration and tedious puzzles.
it leads to the game EXISTING
without key items there are no unique gameplay functions to seek out, which means there is no reason to seek anything out other than for its own sake, which means you have a glorified open-world collectathon, which is what BOTW and TOTK are
they're sandboxes with tons of cool features and mechanics, but it all amounts to a hollow experience because there are no true limitations on you at any point other than having hearts and stamina, once you've made it out of the tutorial sky islands the game may as well already be over because the main game and postgame are all exactly the same shit over and over at every single moment
at least the OOT era puzzle design of "walk down hall, use key item" gives you KEY ITEMS THAT DO UNIQUE THINGS INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU ***LITERALLY*** USE THE SAME SOLUTION HUNDREDS OF TIMES OVER
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>>736628972
Like-Likes too.
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>>736609910
based
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>>736628076
Lel
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>>736626315
trvthnvke
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>>736611449
Based. We got his oil.
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>>736628327
Accessing new areas? They're more linear games you use them to find new spots in old areas like going back to bomb a wall in the lost wood to get upgrades or heart pieces. They're more linear and have set solutions but at least you get to get more difficult use of these items later on, you get moment where you go "Oh shir I can use the hookshot like that too?" When you're stuck for a bit. Of course they're not alm winners. Silver gauntlet or ice arrows in oot are a bit shit but shit but it doesn't change the fact dungeon progression make using your toolkit more fun. Totk and Botw give you five items right away and doesn't give you set solutions so most puzzles ends up samey or easy because there's no progression, "I have a bomb" "now I put the bomb in a pipe" never get really interesting. Ascend is one of the best exploration ability but is completely shit puzzle wise, it never get more complex than the tutorial shrine. The best ability is probably recall because you can use it to chease most shrines (or just fuse a rocket to your shield lol). I'm not even going to argue one is better since there's merit in absolute freedom but oot is far from boring
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Who even is this Eric this schizo keeps talking about?
Is it a Dragonirian or Barry boogeyman?
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>>736624613
If that were the case the person who shat all over TotK for 3 hours shouldn't love it as much as they do no?
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>>736607729
Fair point. Like specialty shrines dedicated to that device with advance puzzles that you can only enter after certain milestones are met in the game.
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>>736629409
Who?
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>>736601785
I already played gmod
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>>736629064
>don't think you've ever played OOT
Is that why you couldn't answer the question? Because you're admitting it's exactly "get thing and use thing on the roadblock", which is inherently shit.
>it leads to the game EXISTING
It leads to the game having shit level design like in the exact example from TP I posted.
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>>736629254
Imo there's a good middle ground to be found between the open world and linear design, which LoZ had. If BotW had a second act of dungeons that opened up after you beat the first four it would have been a great game.
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>>736629379
Pretty sure it's a literal bot that just trolls every single BoTw/ToTK thread
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>>736629254
>Accessing new areas?
>That's a one-way solution, the item solely exists to pass the arbitrary door the devs placed
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>>736629568
Who the fuck even is Eric?
Seriously though no bullshit
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>>736629689
Yeah I agree, if they gave a reason to explore putside of samey shrines and actual dungeons it would have been great
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>>736629637
>it's exactly "get thing and use thing on the roadblock", which is inherently shit.
what do you want out of games, exactly? like in the abstract? because it sounds like you want a Win Button that you press once every ten seconds for fifty hours straight while the game progresses from one cutscene to the next
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>>736601785
building was gatekept by uninteresting grind so you were actively encouraged to not mess around and experiment with building because it would waste all your shit
the game is only mildly fun in unpatched versions that let you dupe a billion zonaite

you can build your cool tank that sucks twice, or the instawin hover bike 50 times
which way white man?
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>>736629697
That's game design, you need to be good enough to continue instead of making everything easy enough you can do it however you want. Are metroid games shit because you need to find items to pass "arbitrary doors" too? I don't get the issue it's what every linear or semi open games do
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>>736629853
>what do you want out of games, exactly?
Good gameplay. Which plenty of games like BotW and TotK do. None of the previous 3D Zelda's had that because they have dogshit hub and spoke level design where you can't even jump.
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>>736601785
They made it too much like Zelda 1, a game famous for filtering fags.
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>>736629748
I think he’s referring to Eric M. Bush, a product tester employed by Nintendo of America.
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>>736629992
>Are metroid games shit
No, precisely because Super isn't lock and key garbage like previous 3D Zelda games are.
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>>736601785
It's a high quality product but the main mechanic of the game is fundementally flawed. They should have found better ways to incorporate the building into the gameplay.
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>>736613879
It's a nice language once you learn it. If you have to learn it as an adult, it can be difficult to grasp the masc/fem + conjugations though. It eventually clicks.
>t. learned as an adult
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>>736630016
uh huh
how would you improve on TOTK then?
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>>736630080
>Super isn't lock and key garbage
i cannot wait to hear you explain how metroidvanias do not use key items and abilities to lock your access to parts of the game
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>>736630080
>start up Super Metroid
>get to Crateria
>can't immediately go to Mother Brain because the door is locked

STUPID LOCK AND KEY GARBAGE. I BET THE SNOYS ARE BEHIND THIS SOMEHOW
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>>736601785
I can tolerate a lot of bullshit, but for me it was the fact that there's nothing actually worth saving on the hylian side of Hyrule. The humble farming village I liked in BOTW got taken over by an insane mushroom fashion cult and you can't even resolve the quest by kicking the crazy fashion lady out. Let Ganondorf burn that shit down.
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>>736601785
screams rehash with the reused assets and overworld. the dark world/underground is sof ucking lazy its unreal. its basically nintendo's version of an ubisoft towers rehash game.
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>>736630436
Nothing. Zelda is already the best its ever been in a long, long time. There just needs to be more dungeons like Hyrule Castle (where the focus is on pure exploration).
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>>736630016
I wish everyone like you would hop in a mass grave so we could have good big budget games
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>>736630936
I wish we could genocide your subhuman race, Eric.
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>>736630936
That won't happen. What will happen is Zelda becoming more popular and successful than ever will cause subhumans like you to commit mass suicide when the Switch 2 Zelda releases.
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>>736601785
Same reason BotW was bad.
>now you can glue a rock to a stick and create a new weapon!
>still breaks after 5 attacks
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>>736630682
lol
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>>736630073
NTA but why can't the janny mods just blacklist a sentence being spammed a certain number of times and actually refresh the same image detecting system so i can accurately tell if someone is spamming a falseflagging thread
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>>736631001
>>736631042
I know we all know this faggot schizo is spamming replies in here, but it's just funny to see something this blatant knowing how much projection is being done when he accuses everyone else of samefagging
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>>736631042
>It will sell and make money!
>Will it be good?
....
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>>736631137
>>736631158
>>736631195
>>736631272
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631272
Both are correct and the massive meltdowns will it succeeds when he hilarious to watch just like BotW and TotK.
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Sure, if pic related gets rangebanned
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I feel like exploration in older games was more fun I loved unlocking some shit like the bomb and going back to areas to find piece of hearts and shit, i'd take this over korok seed #1000 or shrine #321 (easy puzzle ahead!). I especially liked doing it in Wind waker
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>>736601785
They made an asset flip of a game that was already lacking in unique content.
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>>736631470
>>736631408
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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botw and totk are genuine dogshit made for little kids

nin toddlers please touch grass and stop discussing a baby game
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>>736631095
It's okay. I know you don't know anything about level design in vidya.
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>>736631513
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631371
Yes, we should ban all consolewar faggots in general, if you'd rather talk about how much money sony or nintendo is making over games you don't deserve to post. Famitsu threads? In /biz/. Those threads made by a schizo to shit on the game? Rangebanned
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>>736631570
Based and truthpilled
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>>736631570
So we rangeban OP, got it.
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>>736631570
/biz/ mods already raped your nigger cope.
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>>736631612
Yes that's quite litteraly what i said
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>>736601785
It wasn't bad, it was just mid. Very lazy and uninspired by Zelda standards. Zelda is supposed to be an amazing adventure with puzzles and adventure and good storytelling, but instead we got this sandbox slop for babies set in the same world as BOTW. It had the worst dungeons in all of Zelda.
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>>736631669
Nice ESL moment, Eric.
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>>736631371
>if pic related gets rangebanned

nta that's fair but it's nice that we can agree on something, but i'd hope you'd would keep the same energy when shit like this gets posted as well, right?
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>>736631523
you're the one who thinks peak zelda dungeon design is somewhere you can just kinda wander around aimlessly and fight a few dudes
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>>736631703
>>736631669
>>736631719

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631703
>Zelda is supposed to be an amazing adventure with puzzles and adventure and good storytelling
Good thing that's TotK.
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>>736631746
>>736631719
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631664
That's the joke yes, famitsu threads are shit that do nothing but make schizo obsessed with companies, see the eric schizo here and the OP and were rightfully mocked out of /biz/
>>736631705
Sure, as long as we agree they should all be banned
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>>736631703
I haven't played it yet, are they really worse than BotW?
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>this schizo is so MINDBROKEN that he has to repeat the same sentence every reply
KEKYPOOPYROOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>736631805
>>736631815

>literally needs to use two year old examples
Pathetic, but funny seeing you have a meltdown over people wanting you rangebanned ;)
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Just make /vcw/ (Videogames/Console Wars) so the faggots have a dedicated shitting grounds that justifies their removal from /v/, the same way the gachaniggers are recurringly told to fuck off back to /vg/ and /vmg/.
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>>736631719
>>736631805
>>736631806
>>736631815
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631705
>calling someone esl when that was a perfect aligned english sentence but just missing one comma
I'm starting to think the real esl's are the ones accusing people of being an esl, cause there was nothing wrong with that sentence.
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>>736631848
just make /snoy/ and permaban everbody who has ever said anything positive about sony
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>>736631837
Bro I literally didn’t even post that shit at all.
I’m just laughing at the schizo
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>>736631746
>You're the one who thinks a large, non-linear level with multiple different ways to enter and exit, secrets to discover, loot to gather, powerful enemies to fight, is peak Zelda dungeon design
Correct. Because I actually understand level design.
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>>736631875
>missing one comma
ESLtranny confirmed, it does not just miss a comma
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>>736631875
>>736631901
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631901
>I didn't post that!
>instantly got defensive about people banning the threads
Suuuuuuuuure
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>>736631837
>NOOOOOO ONLY NINTENDO CAN'T GET ANNOYING FALSEFLAG THREADS

seriously anon you're asking for falseflag threads to be banned yet allow all those threads that had nothing to do with sony to stay, i thought you would keep the same energy when shitting on any falseflag thread
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>>736631997
Okay but what If I were to tell you that I never really participate in these threads and you are talking to the wrong anon…
It’s possible you know
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>>736631806
>Puzzles
Yes, all of them are easy and can be cheesed with the same strat 90% of the time.
>Storytelling
Holy shit yes, somehow worse, memories have a set order so you'll definetely watch them in the wrong order and get spoiled, they don't even take time to introduce the sages and you get the exact same 4 cutscene for each of them. Ganondorf is a joke an basically using his corpse to sell copies because he's a shit villain, Zonai are a cheap Sheikah repeat, it's really really bad
>Dungeons
They have themes and cool bosses but the dungeons themselves are still the same shit and bottom of the barrel for Zelda
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>>736631907
Hyrule Castle is trivial if you do anything but rush it at the start of the game. Revali's Gale alone skips most of it. It's a complete waste and a massive anticlimax if you do anything besides speedrun the game.
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>>736632021
>>736632056
>instant crying about me shitting on your threads
KWABOOTY, you really are bad at hiding.
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>>736632056
Don't take it too personally anon there's lot of schizos here we're both Eric after all
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>>736632021
>>736632056
>>736632058
>>736632104
>>736632130

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736631928
>Esltranny

>Yes, that's quite what i literally said
is this thread just filled with the mentally ill? cause that was nowhere near wrong? also you must be 18+ plus to be able to post here retard.
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>>736632137
>still can't see it
kek, you definitely are an ESLtranny.
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>>736632104
>its non-linear so its bad
Based retard who knows jackshit about level design.
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>>736632108
>crying
Nah nigga I’m laughing at everyone here
It’s so easy to fool everyone to the point that everyone here is a schizo including me and you
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>>736632215
>Nah nigga I’m laughing at everyone here
>It’s so easy to fool everyone to the point that everyone here is a schizo including me and you
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>>736632130
Yeah everyone is Eric including me and you and >>736632136
it’s hilarious
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>>736632137
>>736632215
>>736632268
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632104
This, more areas like that would make amazing areas or ruins to explore, but definetely not dungeons, I think in a perfect world getting to the top of Hyrule Castle doesn't drop you in a boss room but in the actual dungeon
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>>736632259
I accept your concession
Btw why are you so angry?
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>>736632108
unironically jump alongside the retarded spammer, this fag just exposed he doesn't care about falseflag threads unless it has something to do with nintendo which is one of the main reasons why /v/ is literally declining so hard that there was even a mlp porn thread up for almost 30 minutes straight.
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>>736632303
>>736632306
>n-n-no UUUUUUU
I accept your trannyscession that you are crying ;)
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>>736632349
I accept your concession x2
You will never be a real woman
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>>736632306
>>736632303
>>736632393

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632393
You lost and got raped ;)
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you can't take the pros of Skyrim without also taking the cons. TotK is the only Zelda I haven't finished, I don't think it was bad I just tuned out after enough time because I felt so bored.
These big vast environments only work on first impression, diving back in you lose all wonder and everything feels like a chore. Vastness fatigue
I also found the physics abilities to be torturous to control, it was so clunky and awkward to control and a lot of the times I would be looking for more direct ways to solve a puzzle because I wasn't bothered doing it the intended way

I hope the rumours of OoT:Remake are true because that is the model they must return to. Cut all of the fat and experimentation, give us a straight-forward fantasy adventure with well thought out, concise dungeons and environments
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>>736632349
>crying, when he can't type english right while also assuming i'm some other dude
like i said jump retard
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>>736632406
>>736632424
I accept your concession x3
You both are brown and smell like shit
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>>736632430
>>736632484
>>736632465

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632430
>These big vast environments only work on first impression, diving back in you lose all wonder and everything feels like a chore. Vastness fatigue
Well yeah, in a sequel you're supposed to go to a different vast environment.
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>>736632268
I feel bad for them but it's also hilarious. I was wondering why the usual schizo totk thread had so many replies and seeing some schizos having meltdown because people actually discussed totk and it's flaws outside of posting the 3 same webm and calling everyone a tranny tendie is funny. I'm convinced some of them would rather do this than play games so I'm convinced I have more hours in TOTK than some people here, and I don't even like the game that much. Famitsu threads and it's consequences i guess
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>>736632430
>he thinks OoT Remake will be anything close to the original in design
It's gonna be a messy hybrid that only addresses the most surface level complaints ("WHERE MUH ITEMS" "DURABILITY SUX") and still incorporate the worst parts of the Wild formula that the mainstream overlooked.
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>>736632484
>>736632465
Why are you so terrible at this?
And only an ESLtranny would fail to capitalize the I, retard.
Easy tell ;)
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>>736632430
>with well thought out, concise dungeons
OoToddlers are so delusional. You guys really don't play video games at all.
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>>736632493
>>736632537
I accept your concession x4
You both got gaped and you will forever be jamboys
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>>736632430
>I hope the rumours of OoT:Remake are true because that is the model they must return to. Cut all of the fat and experimentation, give us a straight-forward fantasy adventure with well thought out, concise dungeons and environments
They're absolutely going to be copying the BotW formula going forward. It's going to be a remake, not a remaster.
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>>736632502
>>736632519
>>736632528
>>736632574

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632574
Seethe harder ;)
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Fuck feels so good to be an OOTgod
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>>736632574
Why is this mentally ill pajeet so desperate to defend this thread?
How odd, after claiming to be against console wars...
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>>736632652
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632519
nta but blame tribalism its why both sides think they're both in the right to do the same when that barely does anything for anything but decline the quality of things making it impossible for anyone to actually conversate on a board or criticize without retards like >>736632493 or the spammers you just mentioned from just making it harder to have genuine conversation while trolls fill in those places
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>>736632725
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632725
this thread being allowed to exist is the real reason why /v/ is going down the shitter and everybody knows it.
Rangebanning OP is the first step in healing.
Andybody who disagrees is retarded and deserves to die.
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>>736632598
>>736632618
I accept your concession x5
You both need to die unironically
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>>736632539
>You guys really don't play video games at all.
>posts clip of the wrong game
OoT is the most consistent game in the franchise. It's been getting worse since them
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>>736632681
>ignores the other billions from nintendo spam, major example being the spammer in this very thread

anyways i rest my case
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All posts below this one = confirmed trans and indian
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>>736632207
its nonlinearity is the ONLY thing going for it
it also has
>no interesting enemies
>no interesting layouts
>no interesting visuals
>no interesting or challenging progression
>no interesting loot
>no interesting boss fight at the end because it's just another ganon fight
it doesn't even have good viewpoints because all the sky islands are five times higher in the sky
you don't know shit about level design, all you know is that YOU felt excited walking around in Le Floating Hyrule Castle, alone, to do the exact same shit you were already doing for the previous two hundred hours
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>>736632816
>>736632852
>total meltdown after being critizised
OP melty ;)
And prove it, where are the worse threads than the OP?
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>>736632839
>posts clip of the wrong game
Can you actually explain to me how the design in TP is different from OoT? I would love to see the bullshit you will try to spill pretending the level design in these games are different. Because that webm happens multiple times in OoT, and other 3D Zelda games. It literally happens in the final dungeon for OoT.
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>>736632816
>>736632839
>>736632852
>>736632876
>>736632881
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632810
that why i said also ban these as well but for some reason that fag got so upset once i brought up images like this it's almost like they are biased.
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>>736632881
>its nonlinearity is the ONLY thing going
Yep, you really do know jackshit about level design.
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>>736632207
>the non-linear level design allows to skip the dungeon entirely
So there's no point in having dungeons at all. Got it.
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>>736633028
>skip
Case in point.
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>>736632975
>8
Where are the other over 1000 examples I asked for?
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>>736632725
Yeah it sucks, still got a chat in here while ignoring the spammers because I love Zelda and like discussing it but it's getting harder to just like a game in here without being called a snoy or a tendie. Consolewars was always for retards but it's been hitting /v/ hard for a while now. Those threads and any numberfags threads that's about how well a company is doing instead of how goods games are should be permabanned, I don't get why those threads and any threads that's spammed that much and obviously only here to cause a flamewar or famitsu threads that are just schizos circlejerks aren't banned on sight. I don't own stocks I do not care if Zelda is selling well, I'll buy the game if it looks good I am not personally invested in my favorite game series selling mord copies than yours
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>>736632975
and even so that was 8 at the time of me screenshotting this it extended to 100 across these whole few months and now they're spamming the image with the 4 fandoms shit i can't really search in the archive since they continue to change the file id to avoid getting ranged banned
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>>736632928
>explain how 2 different things are not the same thing
we have an intellectual here
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>>736632975
>>736633028
>>736633072
>>736633076

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736632909
>meltdown
Nah but keep the concessions coming
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>>736633103
How are they different? Go ahead, i would love to see you rationalize this.
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>>736633076
No it hasn't, ESLtranny.
You posted 8, I posted multiple thousand examples.
Exterminating snoys is the first step to fixing /v/, seethe harder.
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>>736633154
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736633154
You seem upset ;)
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>>736632995
explain how it's good mr based level design enthusiast
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>>736633174
Why not both?
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>>736633243
Why not only the people objectively worse?
Why are you so desperate to defend this thread?
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Okay seriously I had my fun with this thread
everyone here got baited I am actually not the OP and all replies after this lost and are smelly indian third worlder scum that should be purged
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>>736633302
>>736633243
>>736633227
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736633302
Everybody knows you are the OP, aren't leaving and that literally has never worked on anybody.
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>>736633351
Prove it then
Why haven’t I posted the same sentences as the people you claim?
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>mods STILL haven't filtered the phrase into an autoban
#Nooticing
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>>736633289
I'm not the anon. Those threads should be banned because they encourage flamewars, like all kind of consolewars threads. Why would threads shitting on sony get a pass because it's less spammed? They'll just create more schizos that shit the board either way
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>>736633064
still a fucking problem, ban them all retard? why are you so against banning them all its almost like it triggers you people when someone brings up that there's examples of this on both sides but the fact you kept like 10+ of these images shows ur obsessed with the tribalism on this board, why didn't you keep the same energy when nintendo fags where shilling games like mario tennis or games like mario kart world despite being meh or in other words mediocre when it deeply had problems other than being openworld? inb4
>BUT SNOYYYY
i haven't touched a sony console since they dropped support for playstation home despite it being second life clone and mishandling a bunch of first party games like dust 514 which was arguable better than halo, that shit had lost its flow since 2015 other than that it's been regurgitated remakes.
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>>736615034
>Zelda veteran community
Trannies on Discord?
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>>736633402
>>736633407
>>736633490
>>736633571
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736633407
this so hard it's almost like they're getting paid by the spammer to keep going as long as they ban him after a few hours of him spamming so it doesn't look suspicious.
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>>736633571
>>736633490
>>736633402
Funny how many excuses you make to desperately defend this thread ;)
And you didn't leave, that's proof you are OP.
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All this because snoys started the famitsu threads years ago btw
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>>736633691
Never said I was leaving idiot
I just said that I had my fun
Get baited again
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>>736633651
>>736633757

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736633757
>copes already
KWABOOTY, I was right again ;)
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>>736633691
>HURR DURR YOU DEFEND THIS THREAD HURR DURRRR
>agreeing with him to ban them all while it also doesn't matter what its agenda was against

did you get dropped on the head; you didn't even read what i said telling me, you're more of a troll than actually being genuine.
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>>736633571
They're all mindbroken anon don't bother àd just watch the ship burn and smile knowing you probably have more hours in the games they're defending than them
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>>736633805
You were wrong moron :)
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>>736618536
It's good to beat once. Too much shit for me to want to try again.
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>>736633845
>>736633857
>>736633903
>complete snoytranny meltdown
kek, you really are seething hard ;)
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>>736633845
>>736633857
>>736633903
>>736633914
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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Rangeban anyone who've ever posted in a famistu threads and the boatd would get better instantly
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>>736633923
>seething
It’s so easy to bait you
I am a PCGOD neither a tendie or a snoygger
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>>736633997
Switch is a goof combo with a pc but based
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>>736633997
>he's still trying
Nobody has ever bought that snoytranny cope, OPric.
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>>736633997
>>736633996
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736633996
Seems like rangebanning OP would be easier and more effective.
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>>736633996
This, but also do it for
>porn threads
>eceleb threads
>gacha threads
>discord circlejerk threads (touhou, onirism, etc.)
>politics threads
>consolewar threads in general
>JeeTA threads
>Pokemon threads
>crossboard threads
>AI slop threads
>shill threads
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AIIIIIE OOT SAMA!!!!! I CAN'T WITHSTAND YOUR GOOD DUNGEONS PUNCH!!! AIIE AND YOUR GOOD MUSIC!!! AND GOOD STORY AND HOLY SHIT GOOD GAME DESIGN????? AIIIIIE AT LEAST I'M OPEN WORLD (OPEN RELATIONSHIP)!!!!!!
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>>736634185
Based Gokubro
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>>736634154
It's the same thing, OP is definitely shitting up famitsu too, would be killing two bird with one stone
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>>736633227
What makes Hyrule Castle good? Because of the complex layout. It actually feels like you're raiding a demon's lord castle while being a tangible part of the game world. It's a large complex mess of pathways because a castle inherently lends itself to being a large structure that's hard to siege. It has multiple entry points and interlocking paths that run up and down through it and is filled with the most powerful enemies. You can walk through the front gate, sneak in the waterway through the back, or swim up a waterfall to the side if you have Zora armor. Everything in it feels organic and not like it's there specifically to be a video game level. It's got the prison where you can go find the Hylian Shield after the skeleton Hinox, and the little citadels that lock you in with a Lynel are great callbacks to the old combat rooms in 2D Zelda games. It's secrets to discover like hidden passages you have to actually look around your environment to find, more lore that you can learn like a memory, the king's journal in his hidden study, and Zelda's diary, a hidden shrine, and a few things you need for sidequests, along with the best looking outfit in both BotW and TotK (Royal Guard's Armor). Hyrule Castle is nothing but navigation. Exploring every part of the interior and exterior takes several hours if you're being thorough and requires quite a lot of mental mapping.
It's dungeon exploration in its purest form.
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>>736634259
Or just rangeban OP, easier and cleaner.
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Last post.

Snoys and OoT snoys completely ruined this board.
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>>736634185
>>736634236
>>736634259
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736634273
unfortunately all of this is optional content
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>snoys are crying about people wanting them banned
Why are they so pathetic and subhuman?
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>>736634395
So? That not a valid criticism
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>>736634395
>unfortunately
That's not unfortunate. Only literal retards think non-linear level design is bad because the game doesn't hold their hand and force them to do things.
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>>736634315
Sure, but doesn't stop from banning them all as a bonus to make sure all these schizos stop shitting up my board :)
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>>736634461
>>736634464
>"make your own fun path" is good level design
lol
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GREATEST
GAME
OF
ALL
TIME
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>>736634510
>make your own fun
This is someone pretending he understands level design.
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>>736634510
That's not criticism, you lost and got raped

>>736634482
Nah, just Range ban OP. Why did that idea make you seethe so hard? ;)
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>>736634545
I meant to post a pic of BoTW. Sorry.
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>>736634545
>outsold by BotW
Hasn't been in awhile, boomer.
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>>736634550
having complexity and having setpieces and having the requisite parts of whatever your location is supposed to look like is not automatically good level design
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>>736634601
Why just OP? Are you scared of being banned too?
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>>736634482
>>736634510
>>736634545
Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736634545
FUCK meant to post A Link to the Past disregard this post
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>>736634103
>he’s still thinks I am OP
This is seriously getting pathetic
You are not talking to OP you idiot
Legend of Zelda is fucking shit and you should actually hang yourself for even taking bait seriously
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I... I like Phantom Hourglass...
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>>736634746
Phantom Hourglass has issues but I liked it more than BotW, TotK, and EoW
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>>736634671
Why are you scared of famitsu threads ;)
Just ban OP and the problem is solved.
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>>736634662
>the actually layout doesn't matter
>what matters is if the game is arbitrarily holding my hand
lmao what? Sure bro, where's the slow as fuck block pushing and shooting eyeballs? Now this is REAL level design. A linear corridor that doesn't interact with the rest of the rooms!
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>>736633996
>OoTsnoys seethe at Famitsu threads
Of course.
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Everyone ITT: is a fucking jamboy and they lost
All replies lost and kneel to me
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>>736634671
>>736634706
>>736634782

Nice sametrannying, Eric
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>>736634706
Evrybody knows you are OP, Eric.
That snoy cope has flopped thousands of times already.
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>>736634810
the layout matters, in fact it is just about the only thing which does
a layout being complex is not automatically good
a layout that allows me to bypass everything is not good
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>NOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
MOST INFLUENTIAL GAME OF ALL TIMES
BEST SOUNDTRACK
BEST SEQUEL
BEST DUNGEONS
BEST STORY
BEST GAMEPLAY
>>736634602
YOU WISH! Still better than totk tho BOTWsis :)
>>736634653
>It sold more so it's better
RAPED BY JEWS! THE ABSOLUTE STATES OF TOTKTRANNIES! BY YOUR LOGIC WII SPORT RAPE AND GAPES ZELDA. PATHETHIC
>>736634701
Based but it's second place
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>>736634884
OP is also a jamboy faggot nigger like you too
You are so retarded that it’s laughable
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>>736634902
Nice meltdown, Eric.
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>>736634887
>the layout matters
Glad we could agree Hyrule Castle is the best 3D dungeon in the series and they will never ever go back to OoT clones because they have bad layouts.



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