thoughts?>Bullet-hell shooter DoDonPachi Resurrection >Reignite suddenly announced for Steam. A >refined version with new contenthttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4517190/DoDonPachi_Resurrection_Reignite/
>>736602016Cave is back???
>>736602016I genuinely don't want to seem like a bitch but what the fuck?DFK already has a 360 and Steam port with fuckload of content for well over a decade.Why not SDOJ, or better yet, Mushi Futari?Even fucking bring Espgaluda port to PC or esprade, what the fuck where they thinking?
>>736602016Why the FUCK won’t they bring the Shottriggers DOJ to the west?I am utterly floored that M2 released Tiger Heli on western PS4 but not DDP, like what in the absolute Christ?
best news all decadethe anti shmup schizo is gonna freak
Morkbros we are so fucking back
I kneel to the sheer power of giant robot school girl.CAVE really woke up in 2026 only to remake Daifukkatsu, and people will say this isn't obviously their most sovlful product.
>>736602016What the fuckWho's working on It? IKD?Why dfkI am so confused
>>736603635>what the fuck where they thinking?DFK ports supposedly did better than anything else, maybe including the phone versions. I certainly remember it being the first choice as far Steam shmups go especially.Also, it's a decent mix of attracting casuls and being part of the series CAVE is mainly known for in shmup circle(jerk)s.And last but not least, the big robot girls do be cute.
>>736603805>what in the absolute Christ?Something something Windows issues.
>>736604825Fucking Windows 11, can't even handle 20+ years old arcade games. Absolute state of modern tech.
>>736604737Mushi on Steam sold the most, with it being around 42k up to 2018 because during that time someone leaked valve's internal sale stats, with the best selling STG being Crimzon Clover at 78kDFK was 21k
>>736602016What about DOJ or even Ketsui? I like Doodoopachinko Resurrection a lot but I already own it, gimmie the other games, hell give me ESP Rade.
Whatever happened to the Touhou game CAVE was making?
another fucking DFK port are you shitting me?I'd really like to see mushihimesama futari or ketsui, come the fuck on
>>736604952If it was only Steam sales, then they would have gone for Futari port. I'm guessing they are counting the console ports and mobile versions too.>>736605163Supposedly adds new stuff + includes the original arcade game as well.Closer to a remake.
new stages means new giant girl bosses so thats great
>>736605479inb4 it means another alt version for each stage.
>>736605163This is their most popular game so it makes sense if they are trying to make a comeback>>736605076Cancelled I hope
>>736603805>Why the FUCK won’t they bring the Shottriggers DOJ to the westIt takes literally 2 seconds to buy a yen card on play-asia. If you can't put in that much effort there is no way you're gunna beat that game anyways
>>736604884>https://store.steampowered.com/app/4517190/DoDonPachi_Resurrection_Reignite/Based desuI'm not a big fan of DFK, I did clear the basic normie modes with a couple ships. Maybe this new version will get me into it more.
>>736605031We already *just* got ports of those games. By the best port company ever. It would be insane for them to waste time on that. The current DFK port isn't exactly great, even the replay feature is broken.The best choice for them would have been to release DDP with blue label, but that is probably too much work. So my thoughts are this is better than nothing, if they fix the replay feature and add savestates it's already a massive improvement.
>>736606935>The current DFK port isn't exactly great, even the replay feature is broken.Oh hey, good to know that wasn't only on my end. I couldn't figure out why I couldn't save some replays, or sometimes they would not be saved even if the game says it did.
>>736607003Yeah the people complaining about this being dfk don't play the games, it's actually a major issue that needs to be addressed
Fell for the meme but the plane felt too slow.Sonic wings/aereo fighter 2 is truly the peak
>>736603916It's being done by Cave themselves. The only thing they advertised so far are new stages, new character, new songs and new features.>>736605707Not cancelled. Came out for mobile a few years ago.
>>736609349I wonder if by new character they mean playable ship, or one of the robot girls.Or playable Hibachi from the mobile version. New songs better include DAI-ondo
I didn't think they were allowed to make games anymore. I'm happy >>736605076It came out and it is gacha slop
>>736602016HOLY SHIT CAVE IS BACKCAVE IS FUCKING BACK!!!!!!!niggas we eating again WE AINT STARVING ANYMOE
>>736603805>Why the FUCK won’t they bring the Shottriggers DOJ to the west?>see this>look over >see my M2 copy of DOJ You're a tourist. A literal tourist. Why are you even here? Did you watch a Mork vid and now you've inserted yourself as a shmupGAWD?
>>736602016They're making more modes for Dai Fukkatsu? You'd think they'd want a Steam Sai Dai Ou Jou release.
If this sells even remotely decently there is going to be a lot more of these.
>>736610381It's pretty baffling how DOJ was never ported to Steam alright. You would think that's the low-hanging fruit, even compared to Mushihimesama.
>>736602016FUCKINGKIIIIINOOOOOO
>>736605076It was mobileslop, who cares?
>>736602016Cave is never making a new game ever again lmao, they've 100% become the new treasure, just re-releasing the same old shit over and over again and retards hype it up.
>>736610460M2 did the port, and they don't like porting things to PC because it's hard. The only ones on there are from Konami and taito(square enix) because they likely got a lot of money to do it. I think they just do cave ports cuz it's fun.
>>736610758This is literally a new game. It says right on the store page they're making an arrange.
Sounds like a remaster, which is good but I don't give a single shit about Daifukkatsu.
>>736602016>CAVE is self publishing>a true sequel?Holy fuck. I never thought this would happen. This is them testing the waters. If This does well we might see Mushihimesama or even Espagaluda(i loved Espagaluda II). I am putting this on my list and buying day 1.
>>736605782>>736609830>goystation [Dr Evil] "How about no?"
>>736610381I think they will later this year. There tends to be a pattern where they port things over a year and a half later.
>>736610870It's on the tendie tablet toohttps://youtu.be/L4-z9VRNKcQTendies suck at video games though so you'll never hear about them playing it
>>736610849More of a remake/remaster imo, but yeah it's new content and knowing CAVE it obviously has the original game preserved too.
>>736610381SDOJ is the least played game. Why the hell would they choose that over DOJ the best game in the series?
>>736610776I wish they would make more original games since Night Striker Gear is the best thing they've ever put out but I'm guessing those don't pay the bills.
Please put>Espagaluda II>Mushimesama Futari I would be very happy.
>>736610989I actually did play that version on Switch purely for the sake of.But I'm more comfortable simply emulating it on PC.
>>736611120Why dont you own them already, tourist? I mean I own them. Everyone else I know playing Shmups owns them too. What happen lil bro?
Shitters are pissing, shitting, and cumming their pants over this
>>736610989I played this on Switch i can say it was fun especially the the unlocks for the room. But honestly Espagaluda II is just better.
>>736611106That's another taito funded game. They're also making that aleste game and the ikaruga sequel
>>736611183I bought it for switch. I just would like to buy it again to support CAVE.
It makes me laugh how vocal the shmup boomers are about hating the anime style and mecha waifu panties when it's clear they're what sells
>>736611390>thinking youre money goes to Cavelmao, Taito finna funnel that shit
>>736611327>the ikaruga sequelYou mean Ubusuna that was announced like a decade ago? Unfortunately the director for that burnt out on gamedev while directing Night Striker Gear; I wouldn't expect it any time soon.
>>736611513I have not seen these vocal shmup boomers at all.
>>736611034Because it's the end of an era for them. CAVE was the company that makes arcade shooting games. Those don't pay the bills any more, so now they're making gacha for phones. SDOJ is supposed to be everything they've learned making arcade games crystallized. Even if you like another one more, you should want to see a port of it.
>>736611034>SDOJ is the least played gameBecause it's infamously their least accessible game and is currently only available on a console where the majority of the userbase doesn't care about shmups?
>>736611390Good boy!
>>736602016What's the point? Where's Daioujou?
>>736611730>Because it's infamously their least accessible gameLast I checked the Xbox 360 was the biggest console of the 7th Gen so why lie? Everyone had an XB360 except your dumbass lmao.Dont worry bro I bought a PS3 years later. Im dumb too
Forget DOJ, where are the ports of DDP and DonPachi? I honestly like DDP more than DOJ and it could use a bit of a remaster. Did they lose the code for the game or something?
>>736611870On ps4 and switch
>>736611884They were literally asking on twitter if anyone has the blue label pcb, so probably trying to sort that mess out
>>736602016Physical? Then again I already have too many fucking games to the point I have to put them in a box. But if it releases physical I will grab it since I have all the other Cave games physical
>>736611513It's reasonable to not want them to make Touhou with the serial number filed off. They've never quite gone that far, though, and a plane vs giant robots game like this is right up their alley. It's fine to worry about seeing anime school girls, but those are basically the DOJ element dolls made evil.
>>736611513Anime Waifu's are in Dodonpachi DFK,SDOJ and even Loli's are in Death Smiles I + II.
>>736602016Monkey's paw. This is the CAVE that makes mobile games. Don't expect anything crazy.
>>736612372Yeah, and the games get shit for it. All the time they're great games if you ignore the whole aesthetic
>>736612372>Death Smiles I + II.best cave games
>>736612467>crying about anime girls>not a peep about ketsui being yaoi themedCan't fool me
>>736612467The android girls in fighter jets aesthetic is kino
>>736612489https://youtu.be/jdnIGtTQZZoDeathsmiles is underrated and the music is excellent. Even the Arranged soundtrack is worth it for the price alone.
>>736602016https://youtu.be/IeyVsRCfGHgCan not wait to explore another CAVE game!
>>736613626>Deathsmiles is underrated and the music is excellent. Even the Arranged soundtrack is worth it for the price alone.one of these days i will find the art book at a reasonable price i really love the art for this game.
>>736612669Ketsui does get criticized for that, but not nearly as much because images of cool helicopter pilot guys going to war is more palatable than images of a 12 year old girl in her house.
>>736613928Same it makes me wish CAVE really put more of their Artbooks and OST's on the Steam store. I really do think they could easily get away with charging good money on it.
>>736614045>I really do think they could easily get away with charging good money on it.I would buy it.
>>736602196https://youtu.be/LMhu-Erpen4Yes!
Mushihime 1 and DS 1 are the only cave games I can play... The rest are too difficult for their own good
>>736614412OG DDP isn't that hard
>it's done by CAVEholy shit, I thought they'd be done with real video games forever.
>>736603805Dog I grabbed that shit on ebay.>>736612059How is that Deathsmiles port? I kind of want it.
>>736611513Yeah they need to make more mecha with tits
>>736614412Both of those have some hard mode for people who are used to playing CAVE games. Most home ports of CAVE games do, but normal mode is hard as shit and the novice difficulty is more palatable.
>>736611513Nobody cares about the girls. If they did then the girls should get more fanarts like Touhou gets.
>>736602016The art on the side of the screen looks worse than in previous ports?
>>736614937Because CAVE girls are coombait instead of Touhou characters which are made with SOUL
>>736614937Touhou is special because everyone has seen girls from it and nobody actually plays the games. DOJ also doesn't get played nearly as much as it should, but it's not so in-your-face with cute girls doing cute things bullshit that there's tons of art from people who've never played it.
>>736614937I careCoincidentally, I couldn't care less about anything related to touhou.It just looks so fricking barren and ugly compared to other shmups I don't get how it's so popular
>>736615124lol
theyve seen the shmup revival and came back
>>736615025It does look a little weird
>>736615351It's more like their license with komodo expired honestly
>>736615025I bet its AI
>>736614412https://youtu.be/fHZ088RtIjQ?si=3tCEwEymjQ62kZBvAnon. Espagaluda II is very easy. Literally you can slow down time and it's all about management of the Kakusei Mode.
>>736615545That we know anon
>>736615914heh
>make a new game>when one of their old games is still locked under EXA-Arcadia's bullshit.yeah, they can go to hell for enabling that crap.
>>736616132I fear they genuinely think releasing a port of another game would take away from its Exa Arcadia profits, and that's why they're doing a Steam port of a game that already on Steam.
>>736616132which one
>>736616460https://exa.ac/en/games/dodonpachi-true-death-exa-label/?v=0f177369a3b7
>>736616552SDOJ is out there
>>736612059why collect plastic trash?
>>736613626>deathsmilesshould I buy this?https://store.steampowered.com/app/314180/Deathsmiles/
>>736618424No, you buy the one that has both games included.
There is already too much shit on DDP Resurrection on Steam : arrange modes, alternate route, Ketsui mode... who the fuck want more of this?
>>736619085Me
>>736615476Komodo and LiveWire. Most of their games were delisted from the Nintendo eShop, with SDOJ being the only exception. Shocked this didn't happen on Steam.
>omg guise we r le back!!!!1!!1!!Nobody's gonna buy it, same as always, I don't know what anyone's getting hyped for.
>>736620009But people did buy DFK.On par with shmup standards, anyways.
Why do PC ports even matter when everything is emulatable All the ports on Switch and PS4 run fine
>>736620198It's not a simple port, they are adding new stages, characters, music etc.
>>736620069You're right and the other anon is retarded with his implications.By shmup standards, DFK sold a fucking ton on PC. Unfortunately that anon is also accidentally right when he says nobody is gonna buy it. Not being no one is interested in like he implied, but because everyone interested already has DFK on Steam and have barely dug into all the various modes. Only a tiny fraction of rich super autists are going to double dip for this even with the new content, especially if CAVE is retarded enough to try and sell it for $40 or something (they are).
>>736620380*Not because no one is interested in it
>>736620380They better make the new content good enough to justify not just playing the Livewire port.New stages might imply there is effectively a different game, rather than just being an arrange.
>>736620380The old port is literally broken
>>736620618The vast majority shmupies do not care that much about slowdown accuracy or replays.
>>736620069>>736620380Shmupn standards are not enough to sustain a company though, it's why even the most high profile shmup makers struggle to survive and need to have day jobs.
>>736621183You say that, but CAVE decided to remaster DFK in 2026 anyways.Granted, they needed some gacha money first, but still. They have their ways, and haven't fully given up on being "the" shmup company.
>>736621270How does that contradict anything I said?
I think the original Donpachi is underrated
>>736621710Just pointing out it didn't really deter them anyways.
Are the Dodonpachi games related in lore or is it like Final Fantasy where they just keep some gameplay elements and naming convention
>>736621867You better 1cc them all in order to get the epic shmup lore bro
fuck you CAVEjust give a good SDOJ PC port you japniggersemulating SDOJ is a fucking nightmare and i dont want to play it on the shitbox360
>>736622291It's on switch
>>736622381oh it is? is it a shit port? i dont have a switch and i probably never will, why not on PC? why CAVE?
>>736622490>is it a shit portNo it's an m2 port and the definitive version of the game
>>736622563>and the definitive version of the gamenah Japs still play on the arcade cabs and the 360, at least for scoring, so it probably isn't the definitive version
DDP DNF is probably the most underrated CAVE game, at least the black label
>>736622643It most definitely is
>>736622643They do that because they're autistic. It literally has less input lag than the PCB
>>736622563SDOJ port is from LiveWire. I wish it was M2 so I could enjoy all the extra bells and whistles they added with DOJ. That shit should be the bare minimum for these arcade conversions.
>>736622815>DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou (SDOJ) on Nintendo Switch generally has higher, more variable input lag (estimated 5-6+ frames, or ~50-90ms) compared to the original, highly responsive CV1000 PCB, which operates at near-zero native latency. shut the fuck up retard, do you just make shit up in your head?
>>736622563You have to be trolling. The PGM Cave boards had 1f latency. The best M2 ports have 5f of latency, and this is just the port itself and not what screen you have it connected to and what controller you're using (and since it's on switch/ps4 then the controllers alone have 40ms on ps4 and whopping 120ms on switch latency).
>>736622775>>736622815why are tendies this fucking retarded?
>>736622291Emulating the switch version is easy
>>736623139>The best M2 ports have 5f of latencyBro what
>>736602016You could give me Espgaluda 1 or Futari, but no, give me the game I already own multiple times.
Are they ever going to give me high frame rate shmups? 60 fps only looks good on a crt.
I have ESP Ra.De., Ketsui Deathtiny, DoDonPachi DaiOuJou, Deathsmiles and Akai Katana. What order should i play them in?
>>736625469Blue Revolver runs at 120fps i think
>>736621867DaiOuJou has major references to DoDonPachi and Bee Storm is basically a filler game that was outsourced. One DOJ character shows up in DFK. It's not very important, but I do think you should experience DDP before DOJ so you get what it's doing later.
>>736602016They did Resurrection first because they resurrected>Additional features hinting at a new battlefieldSo are they taking features from a different game like how there's a Ketsui mode or what
>>736602016I'm excited and a little disappointed. It's going to be like $40 for a game I basically already own but I'll still probably buy it just to support them. Maybe they'll release more of their games if it does okay enough.
Oh hey it's the new thread!
>resurrection>new samefag thread
>>736625783I'd start with the Dodonpachi game because the others are usually just tweaked versions of that. Otherwise, release order (of the original arcade games).
>>736622769People got pissed at DFK, both because the first arcade version is fucked up and they just wanted to keep playing DOJ. Most versions now are the 1.5 update and it's a great game.
>>736627752I just want to see how long the 2-3 man circlejerk lasts.
>>736617728The Exa Arcadia version has a new arrange mode.
>>736602016no sdoj?
>New shmups vote>Blue Revolver still didn't crack top 25 after Double Action >But Dodonpachi placed higher than Daioujou at 3rd and Mushihimesama placed higher than Futari at fucking second place>Garegga still first What?
>>736627943>poketranny trying to talk shit about anything elseLMFAO
>>736628182only boomers are voting and anyone younger than 30 doesnt even know what a shmup is
>>736628224Don't mind me, go on.
>>736628182Blue Shitvolver is westoid kusoge in a genre filled with hundreds of kino nip games, thank god it didn't crack the top 25 as that would reflect incredibly poorly on the western fanbase. There is also literally nothing wrong with DDP placing higher than DOJ, or vice versa for that matter. Same for original Mushihimesama vs Futari. The real crime is Gregga placing higher than Buttrider.
>>736628403Sorry, poketrannies are just so hilariously pathetic it's hard to ignore.
>>736628182what are you talking about what vote
>>736628520nah keep going
>be me>trans gal who LOVES shmupumm... i'm in bullet HEAVEN ^.^
You dumb niggers can never control yourselvesI'm out
>>736628573>>736628403damni think you lost lil bro lol
>>736628645let the door hit you on the way out
>>736611513Spaceships>allDoesn't mean anime style is badBoth also work great together (Cute anime pilots in cool spaceships)
>>736628645No one even knows what you're talking about you fucking sperg troon.
I remember when the Korean schizo turned out to be a janny
What happened to all that organic shmup discussion? Surely 5 posts didn't stop those 50 new shmup players from posting.
>>736602016>Hardcore SHMUP players want high quality ports>They're willing to pay full price for a single SHMUP>Less entrenched players are fine with just roms>They want multiple games for no more than $40I don't know if catering to the former is the best business decision, even M.2 is mostly breaking even on all the fantastic ports they've done
>wh-what how can people be discussing this niche genre, it never gets any games>what do you mean there's a bunch of you, what do you mean there's more games coming out?>I'm going to make walls of cyclical concern trolling posts and ban people, where is the discussion now? heh
>>736629401hardcore shmup players circlejerk on private discord servers and laugh at 4chan niggers
>>736628182I tried Blue Revolver for the first time recently and it was a huge disappointment. Bland level design and really shitty enemy designs/sprites. Just the most lazy cave-like shmup I've ever played.
>>736629621First time huh? Bet that wasn't the first time you made that post.
>>736629563>hardcore shmup players circlejerk on private discord serversI don't doubt that's a possibility, but I prefer to think they frequent old school forumsThe less middle aged men on Discord, the better
I have no idea why shmups attract genuine schizos. It's a shame but at least the thread was decent for a while.
>>736629621Did you ever play muchi muchi pork? Because to me it feels like that game but actually good.
>>736602016I could not give less of a shit. Bullet hells are not fun.
>>736629714It really wasn't. Circlejerking and pretending to be oh so knowledgeable about specs will not get you a 1-ALL 20 years after you started playing.
>>736629856
>>736628571https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=77591
>>736629856now THIS is the shmupfag i know
>>736629984Nobody in that forum is younger than 50 I dont really care about their taste
>>736630095Fair I was just answering his question.
>>736629621I respectfully disagree. The game places a large emphasis on scoring, and a survival run may not be so exciting, but the routing is decent fun. Visuals could certainly be stronger but it's bullet dodging with rank and some chaining.
>cave is back from the death>most comments online are BUT WHAT ABOUT OTHER GAMEWhy cant you ever be content
>>736629714I dunno eitherMy guess is that people now hate the idea of a challenging game that's so rigid>Can't beat a SHMUP? Just keep playing and get good>Can't beat a soulslike? Get good, but you can makeup for part of your lacking skills with your build, items and RPG stats
>>736630215>GD infinite content players: what is this unc yappin about
>>736630337No one even knows what the fuck GD even is dude
>>736630197Great rebuttal against yourself. Clap clap.
>>736630453I like scoring, I like early-stage routing, I like rank and I like bullet dodging. Blue Revolver has all of that.
>>736615124
>>736617901Deal with it
>>736631006I kneel
>>736631006Damn nigga this is atrocious taste
>>736631117>>736631149The duality of man.
>>736631149I was about to say the exact opposite, that's actually some good taste. Collecting plastic is still cringe tho.
>>736631006Sure thing troon.
>>736631117>>736631149>>736631214>>736631219retards
>>736631314You're allowed to update your collection photos, anon.
>>736631314Thanks for catching that. Here's what my collection looks like
>>736631632most well adjusted shmup fan
>>736631632This is just what peak performance looks like.
>>736631632nice collection of soda cups and roaches
Whoops, >>736631685 here, I meant to reply to >>736631006
>>736633274sorry messed that up, i'm not a stupid nigger and know how to reverse google image search and meant to reply to >>736631632
>>736609830stfu secondary
It's funny how the activity in this and the /vr/ general are correlated. Almost like it's the same schizos spamming both threads.
>>736633782Look closely at >>736631006 and >>736631314. The difference is night and day. Complete new row of stuff.
>>736633935Hi Mork, is pretending to be retarded your new cope?
>>736634069Yes, it's what I do when I have nothing to say but want to get to bump limit.
>not M2>fucking DFK of all thingswhy? I'm still happy and it'll get me to play more dfk and hopefully like it this time but what a random announcement
>>736634117Lmao no it won't
>>736622291It works on FBneo
>>736631006fuck you richfag i am jealous
>>736634507is it a pain in the ass to set it up?
I find it weird how quickly the discussion died down. The Deltarune and Touhou threads get shit all the time, but they don't suddenly die like this.
>>736635642the same couple samefagging schizos had their melty and left.
>>736634117Maybe they'll add a cool new mode in the update, but if you already have DFK on Steam, you might as well just play it before the new port comes out.
>>736635449it's easy, especially the standalone version, I use the retroarch core which is a pain but I'm used to it now.
Release DOJ on western psnEnough of this nonsense>jap psn cards>ebayGarbageNonsenseDie inside of meWorthless fucking suggestion
>>736635449It's not much of a problem. I also played the 360 version on emulator and it was similarly just download the game and you're good to go.
>>736636038You know what doesn't have that garbage? Korean rhythm games
>>736636076bvsed
>>736636076the funny thing is adofai isn't even a korean game and he's been seething about it for a month
>>736602016this shit is already on steam nigga https://store.steampowered.com/app/464450/DoDonPachi_Resurrection/where's saidaioujou and ketsui
>>736636282Ask M2 about Ketsui.
