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Official FFXIV video
https://youtu.be/PdTEzmaSKLA?si=P0xvXM4ezzJD2Ouk
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>>736604275
>90% of the DT Patch MSQ is centered on S9
Why do the devs hate fantasy so much and try to make the game into this modern slop shit?
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>>736604275
>doubling down on secondlifeslop
FFXIV has ZERO identity and the lore got raped beyond recognition since overratedbringers. Thank fucking god 11 exists
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>>736604275
Who is ready for FF7 in XIV?
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>>736604275
the lame emotes and modershit glams killed this game
solution 9 is so out of place it's ridiculous
this game ended at shadowbringers
i wonder how long pic related will happen to ffxiv
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It's like Square Enix saw PSO2 New Genesis and ask themselves "how the hell this shit game is still afloat?" then they saw the content the whales are buying and copy that for FFXIV.
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>>736604275
>likes and dislikes disabled
>comments disables

faith in action
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>>736604275
>the baseball cap doesn't even have holes for the catgirls ears
Jesus fuck how low is the quality of their cash shop shit?
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>>736604526
actually the bike isn't related to the fanfest and you can buy it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RsE3AlEQGg
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>SEVEN (7) US DOLLARS
SEVEN (7) US DOLLARS

>SEVEN (7) US DOLLARS
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>SEVEN (7) US DOLLARS
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>SEVEN (7) US DOLLARS
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>>736604682
The face that killed FFXIV.
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>>736604526
>>736604605
>hmm nobody liked Dawntrail
>QUICK WHAT'S THE MOST POPULAR FF
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>>736604729
That's not Wuk Lamat you idiot. Spleen saved DT, and post-DT.
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>>736604778
The patch story is just as garbage as 7.0 and Sphene is a shit character.
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>>736604778
>Spleen saved DT, and post-DT.
Not really. The player count has dropped off a cliff ever since DT released and the reception from the community is largely dead because of how apathetic people are to the story and gameplay. 8.0 is XIVs last chance to prove they know how to tell a good story or the game will forever be washed up and dead like XI
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>>736604275
Why is the emote not a reward for Fashion Report?
Why is the bike not a reward for a Dissida-esque mini event like they did with the XV car?
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>>736605017
>Why is the bike not a reward for a Dissida-esque mini event like they did with the XV car?
they realized they fucked up with the XV car by giving away a 4-seater mount for basically nothing. That should've easily been a $30+ cash shop mount instead and they know it, they're not gonna make that mistake again
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>>736604346
final fantasy almost ALWAYS devolves into futuristic settings, it's been that way since the first game.
dq=full fantasy.
phantasy star=full scifi
final fantasy=a mix of both
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>>736604570
breaking it for you but the whole channel does that on every videos
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>>736604885
>>736604929
post-DT is fine
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>>736605129
i know retard
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Have they fired Kate yet?
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I is so funny that the emote and bike will make more money than Nomura's little vanity project.
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>>736605134
The problem is, even if post DT was a step above base DT, the base game poisoned the well for enough people that a large majority are going to buy a level skip as soon as 8.0 drops to not have to think about Tural or Wuk Lamat ever again
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>>736605170
okay retard
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>>736604885

Sphene is just far less controversial than the alternative, which is why so many took to her.
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>>736605186
Good. Fuck Not!Dissidia
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>>736605134
It really isn't. 7.1 showed that Zoraal'Ja was a runaway dad and something with cows, 7.2 dredged Sphene up and introduced the worst fucking villain we ever had, 7.3 had you drink coffee with Sphene and defeat said villain and 7.4 was completely pointless filler with a tiny shred of Krile pandering. Dawntrail was utter garbage and no matter how much you want to fuck Sphene it will not change that.
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>>736604275
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>>736605208
>>736605298
it's fine - stop overreacting
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>>736604526
Oh they're really breaking the emergency glass if they're doing an ff7 expansion next.
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>>736604929
>or the game will forever be washed up and dead like XI
XI had like six separate expansions and a cap-off update with a full plotline to bring them together before it got 'washed up'.
XI didn't die, it fucking retired, and it's probably still a better game than XIV even now.
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>>736605458
It was only a matter of time. They can only stay in their comfort zone of the vintage FFs for so long before having to finally dip into the more modern FFs. It's only going to get more modern from here
>FF8 - Modern scifi
>FF10 - Modern with pacific islander elements
>FF13 - Modern scifi
>FF15 - Modern scifi
>FF16- Classic fantasy
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>>736604553
>PSO2 New Genesis
How does a parent like Sega let their son go out dressed like that?
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>>736604346
It's not that they hate fantasy, and more that everything south of Alexandria is really bad and boring
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>mix of fantasy and sci fi
>look inside
>sci fi sci fi sci fi sci fi modern slop sci fi
does ff14 even have an artstyle anymore? like, is there anything visual in ff14 that makes you go "ah, this is final fantasy 14"?
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>>736605298
coffee with Sphene was in 7.2 you mong
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>>736605641
Is 10 really that modern? Besides the mechs (Machina), which you can realistically handwave as magic, it's literally all just generic fantasy. You can say Islander theme but that's only really Besaid and Kilika, which is like the first 10% of the game. After that it's Luca which is more Mediterranean and from there it's just fantasy [biome].
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>>736604529
It's just a matter of time for xiv to add this shit too
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>>736605598
Ignore the trolls, 14 will easily last another decade despite the naysayers wishing it an early grave.
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Shadowbringers completely derailed the game and setting, and unfortunately that was when WoW also started repeatwdly stabbing itself so CBU3 thought they were doing good with XIV going that direction.
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Bros I'm gonna do it...
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>>736605783
No. Setting was raped by endwalker and beyond. The akihiro yoshida artwork influence used to tie everything together aesthetically but now the games art direction is incoherent and diffuse. They burned through all of 1.0s soul in trying to neatly tie up the central world mystery.
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>>736605987
>62 euro
w-why?
you're probably never gonna use the orch rolls and the t-shirts look bad desu
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>>736604275
Wake me up when they drop the Jack collab
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>>736604275
literally no one other than trannies and women plays this game
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>>736604275
that song is based off of an FF song but for the life of me i can't place it
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>>736604346
Because it sells. They readily admit everything about XIV's story and aesthetics is decided by engagement rather than any personal vision.
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>>736606338

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EaPDO6pPuE
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>red xiii item
>new updated ff vii motorcycle mount
I'm starting to think VIII is going to be a big component of 8.0
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>>736606609
fuck. i just remembered and was looking for the link when i saw the (you). thanks anon
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>>736604275
>Only lalafells emote looks good
Doomed
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>>736606707
lalas always win

emote looks dumb. and has existed on CN servers for a few months iirc
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>>736604526
the og cloud bike looks way cooler than remake
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>>736606664

>he doesn't know

Expansion details leaked weeks ago here.
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>>736604275
Holy shit, this must have been what Asmon felt like when he seen the gay parade announced in WoW, since this video is making it really clear I'm not the target audience for XIV these days despite being a legacy player and all that.

I am kind of interested in the new Cloud motorcycle, but that's because I've never even bought the first one and I heard their movement boost is pretty good to have for new expansions and other areas before flying is unlocked, plus it's on sale right now to be less jewery.
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>>736607179
Asmongoloid stopped giving a shit about WoW long before the homo parade.
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>>736605987
I pity people that spend their money on this game, must suck to have such bad taste and financial decisions in life, secondlifeslop for normies.
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>>736607179
>motherkiller viewer

The core of the game revolves around raiding and dungeons, every single person is 30+ with a wife or a fiance. The gay parade is for the people who keep posting in that LGBTQ thread on the blizzard forum.

Just kill yourself this week, asmon won't be streaming, so you won't have a reason to live anyway.
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>>736605107
shut the fuck up retard
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Is the Fanfest going to have an item that you can only get if you buy the fanfest online tickets?
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>>736607779
ye
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>>736605863
>Is 10 really that modern?
>A race of gun wielding tech nerds bully you into searching for buried treasure with machinery that can traverse the ocean floor within the first 10 minutes of the game
Gee, I don't know anon
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>>736606068
too based, you risk making the lgbtq+ playerbase consider suicide
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>>736607804
Disingenuous retard
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>>736607365
Isn't he banned on Twitch at the moment?
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>>736607804
submarines were invented 400 years ago retard
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>>736607793
FFUUUUU I don't have money for everything in the cash shop and whatever you'll get for buying the stream ticket.
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>>736606973
That's not even OG, that's from Advent Children. But they're still using the significantly worse version of the Daytona from the shitmake. Zero respect to what made FF what it is.
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>>736607697
quiet zoomie, a boomer is talking. listen and learn.
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>>736607804
in what era did we invent being able to breathe underwater

also, explain how blitzballs work

stop applying real life rules to fantasy you retard
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>>736607904
Fair enough
I'd rather have that bike than the remake one
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>>736607664
Sorry brownie, but I don't care for illiterate third worlder opinions and he's still streaming, just not on Twitch for bitches like you.

>>736607779
What's this about digital fanfest tickets? I haven't heard of this since they did like the moogle suit over a decade ago.
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>>736607872
>>736607930
My point is, it's not ye olden time fantasy where the males are wearing plate armor and the females are wearing long shawls and traversing the land on horse and carriage. It's a more contemporary world which XIV is no longer able to shy away from as they have done until now. The fanbase is bored to death of old fantasy tropes and are eager to engage and purchase products that have more modern stylings to them.
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>>736608047
I do agree that medieval fantasy is played out
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This game is so fucking ugly and the world design is even worse.
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>>736608047
heavensward and dawntrail are exactly 1 expansion a piece

ARR (and as such 1.0) still has the best equipment imo
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I think a futuristic setting is cool but would rather they lean more towards cool tech armor rather than Cyberpunk NPC outfits
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>>736608002
>digital fanfest tickets
pretty sure it's for any musical numbers or performances that are put on, those normally don't get livestreamed/recorded otherwise
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>>736608175
I still wear the 2.0 AF gear to this day, the recent graphical updates to that gear was really nice too
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When is patch 7.5 again?
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it's over...
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>>736608396
april 28. its imminent
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>>736608396
Imminent
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>>736605221
If the wol wasn't autistic both sphene and wuk lamat would have been heavy with child by now. Not his fault though, but because both would forget protection whenever having post trauma/brave savior fetish sweaty animalistic sex at the end of every act
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>>736608367
I still hate that artifact gear was part of the glamour unlock set up.
Everything else I'm fine with, but the actual, job specific gear, should have been kept to those jobs. There is a beauty in restrictions and half the fun in setting up a glamour is gone when limits don't exist.
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>>736608513
no one is stopping you from keeping those restrictions yourself

and all the unlock really did was give more options for gloves and boots
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>>736608452
>>736608482
Oh damn, I haven't been keeping up with FFXIV much since I haven't been playing the game for months. Is it worth coming back for 7.5 if I haven't played in awhile?
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>>736608505
>wuk lmao
>putting your dick anywhere near that shit
My WoL isn't autistic anyways. He's Nanamo-sexual.
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>>736608513
I agree, unfortunately with the current playerbase I fear that's a lost cause
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>>736608572
technically this is 7.5 part 1, part 2 isn't coming out until July/August. You're ok to hold off until everything comes out if you want, there's no rush
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Will the raid be kino?
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>>736607804
I HATE 10 IT FUCKING SUCKS FUCKING UNDER WATER POLO GARBAGE
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>>736608505
sorry chuddie, WoL is married to Adventure, and their relationship is quite monogamous
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What would (You) add to the cash shop?
What items do (You) think should be made free?
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>>736608572
no, you want to return for 7.55 when they add the second zone of Occult Crescent
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>>736608572
unless you care about the story or you want to do day 1 of the 24 man (always a treat) i wouldn't bother. OC isn't fixed, BST isn't out yet. all there is the new crafting planet, the ultimate and the 24 man
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>>736608505
>>736608621
These made me realize that I'm surprised we haven't made a magical aether baby yet with someone on the cast that either gets thrown to another shard or aged up some other way just so they can sell more merch since they made it painfully obvious with 5.3 and onwards that we're roleplaying Azem more than our own character at this point.
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>>736608667
>>736608728
>>736608750
That's good to know. Thanks anon. Is the first new job being introduce at the fanfest?
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>>736608572
Eh hard to say
If I hadn't played for a long time I'd at least come back and grab some of the stuff that's gonna be a pain in the ass to get later such as the glam from doing maps and occult crescent etc
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>>736608794
>first new job
you mean the ONLY new job? No, not at NA. Yoshi-p usually gives a very obscure hint at the job with his choice of t-shirt during the fanfest, but it'll get announced formally at a later fanfest
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>>736604275
What have they done to my game? What have they fucking done... This game simply isn't made for me anymore.
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>>736608560
Not really my point.
>>736608629
Sadly, yeah. Don't get me wrong, there are a few cases where I'd find use for the change, but it's mostly jobs like GNB or DNC that get hosed on role gear options because of the general aesthetic of the role and other jobs in it.
But even then, those limitations have also been the most fun to work around.
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>>736608858
SE is making weird decisions
they're trying to appeal to the ERP audience with modern-glam, but at the same time they ban Mare
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>>736608857
Wait, we're only getting one new job?

>>736608815
I should be fine if I come back at 7.55 I think?
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>>736608938
>I should be fine if I come back at 7.55 I think?
100%
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>>736608724
>What would (You) add to the cash shop?
Anything modern since that brings in the whale meat
>What items do (You) think should be made free?
Hairstyles and paint.
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>>736608938
That's still one more than they should be fucking adding.
They need to take a break from a new, shitty job to actually fix the leveling experience.
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>>736608938
>I should be fine if I come back at 7.55 I think?
yes
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>>736605873
I hope it would happen, cause the social media blowback would be insane. The Jap devs are actually on Social Media and talking to players.
They're not like typical JP Devs that are completely isolated from what the common folk are thinking, like how Trump is basically being controlled by his Jew-in-law son.
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>>736605186
>>736605226
I'm playing both NT and Duellum. I hope Duellum gets a pc release soon.
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>>736609159
Why is your dumb ass bringing up politics in a fucking video games thread? Fuck off with that shit.
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>>736604529
Never, the game might have more troons players than WoW but the devs live in another world. The US localization team has no power and it also on hot water for dropping the ball hard in DT, they even demoted that Kate bitch.
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kek xiv players really are trying to turn the game into a gacha auto battler
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Reminder that all emotes are free (with plugins) and can even be shared with others (with plugins). If you’re not playing modded FFXIV like Yoshida intended, why are you even subbed?
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>>736607365
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>>736609308
Ngl I'd rather have people use mods that play for them than suffer dogshit soggers in my party
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>>736604275
And this game is supposed to be a fantasy RPG?
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>>736608931
They're obviously going to ban anything that allows you to bypass the cash shop.
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>>736609248
Because you know I'm right with that comparison.
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>>736609472
>reeee its not a real fantasy rpg
>the "real" fantasy rpg in question
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>>736609308
I am being completely unironic but after seeing just how shitty people play in max level raids/dungeons/trials after downloading ACT out of curiosity I would happily let half of this playerbase like a robot control them over their undeveloped brains
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>>736604605
>Isn't related to FanFest.
They're just having it for sale earlier, which isn't that new.
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i really hate these costumes
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>>736609636
This shit pisses me off nwarly as much as post-SB XIV does.
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>>736609636
I was hoping more like this.
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I'm starting to think we are getting a FFVII expansion with a real Midgar city because these trash modern fashion clothes fit for that setting too.
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>>736604346
Because no one likes Tuliyolamat

>>736604526
This is how you know the game is in a poor state. Sadly this means it's even more unlikely they'll actually try and fix it.
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>>736609710
How is this even the same game? I just... I'm tired boss, I'm so fucking tired.
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>>736605987
I'm largely ok with modern clothes because at least they are fantastical modern clothes
The neotunics are actual cancer and it baffles me you would pay money for them
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>>736609782
Artifact armor never went anywhere
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>>736605987
>The vision they sold loyal fans vs the game they delivered
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Fight was the worst thing to happen to xiv by the way.
The absolute fucking state of zones these days makes me sick.
>Stupidly wide open, yet empty
>Have to make up for it by every mob being aggressive
>every map is cut in two
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>>736604275
I wear the right outfit for 90% of my working days as an accountant.
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>>736610037
Flight even. For fucks sake my dumb ass needs to proofread once in a while.
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Remember that we once lived.
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>>736609472
Final Fantasy from day one has had highly advanced super civilizations with otherworldly technology.
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>>736610241
Wasn't in the game when I played it.
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Another decisive WoW victory. Maybe Echo should return to XIV so the loser team can join the loser MMO loll.
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This is what we used to have.

Now we have a fucking fashion runway emote.
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>>736610241
>FF1 "High tech civilization"
Whack-ass flying castle with strange fantastical robots, powered by a giant crystal. The boss of the place is a teal dragon with five heads that controls wind magic.
>FF14 "High tech civilization"
The bright neon lovechild of Tokyo with The Grid from Tron, filled witj people wearing chic modern graphic t-shits and puffy jackets. The boss of the place is giant mech being piloted by an AI duplicate of a little girl.
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>>736610241
Yes, but the clothing people wore wasn't literal modern attire.
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>>736610241
It's just retards concern trolling
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>>736604346
>Bitch and moan about how much they hate Tural and Tulliyolal during the MSQ
Gee, I wonder
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>>736610568
>allag
>garlemald
>bestway burrows
>alexandria
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It's like the people that get mad at the witcher or dragon age. when they really most of the civilians aren't actually living in piss and shit and medical problems like cancer go away in about 15 minutes with a magical swish and flick. It's only because Ferelden and the Northern realms are the pissant low end backwaters of fuckstickville. But it's somehow bad because it's not "gritty" or some other irrelvant descriptor.
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>>736607804
Difference being that 10 has unique aesthetics where even the the outfits people in dream Zanarkand (aside from Tidus) still would fit the modern day spira.
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>>736604346
I agree.
They should bring her back!
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People calling old FFs out for being 'high tech' are funny since those games are Amano-style 'high tech', where the technology is either so insane it warps back around to being fantasy, or it's decrepit ruins of former societies that now hardly functions and exists to inspire awe at the accomplishments of the past.
It does not mean bright pastel neon lights and outfits you'd see people wearing at a modern strip mall.
>>736610685
Allag and Garlemald are absolutely not comparable to the shit from EW and DT.
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>>736610872
Garlemmand is at the very least early 20th century in terms of technological advancement and standards of living if not far greater.
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>>736610829
way better than the modern slop
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From day one you have essentially cellular communication and wifi via linkpearls.
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>>736610685
None of those wore print crop tops and hotpants.
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>>736610872
i'm just saying its a little disingenuous to dismiss one fantasty scifi civilization while sucking off the others

>but they fit better within the setting
all 4 of those are integrated into the setting

>i don't like it
the truth
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>>736605641
I'm fine with modern so long as it's fantastical modern, which is one of the problems with SOME of the newer glam options. The pure cyberpunk puffy sweater with 15 belts/zippers/dildos slapped on isn't my issue, it's the normal modern day T-shirt.
Fantasy is not determined by time period, but in that it is fantastical.
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>>736608857

We already know they're adding two jobs. Ranger (ranged phys DPS with a crossbow) and Geomancer. (healer with a Geomantic bell)

Everyone thought if they were adding two new jobs, the second would be a tank. Apparently they took that into account to surprise us according to the leaker from a few weeks ago and did the opposite.
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>>736610539
matsuno slop.
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>>736610987
Magically enchanted earrings.
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>>736610241
You know nothing about this game, Yoshida himself said the pinnacle of tech would be no more than Magitek/ Allagan and stated why. That was enough. He explicitly stated in an interview here the reasoning why
https://www.4gamer.net/games/199/G019924/20150226137/index_3.html
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The worst thing is that they still think "heavy" armor means moving slow as molasses even though in lore my gunbreaker or dark knight can still siwng their weapon at mach 4 and doing it in every combat encounter.
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>garlenigger larpers STILL seething.


Ew was a gift.
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>>736610912
Garlemald is based off the Gestahlian and Archadian Empires from FF6 and FF12, respectively. The former has designs that balance the gritty and 'whacky' nature of its robots inspired by heavy industry, while the latter utilizes a more refined and fantastical approach to Magitek. Neither rely on what is modern technology or designs. At most, Getsahl had steam engines and industrial-revolution era factories.
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Remember when FFXIV had real fantasy
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>>736611070
If you agree that the runway emote is the direction the game should take over what I posted then I don't respect you, I think you are a person of bad taste who simply follows 'current thing' because it's new.
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>>736611215
>making wuk look small and cuter in the art

HA!
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>>736611205
Based off of =/= that limit of
People in garlemald were probably sitting on their frozen asses in cafes and listening to music and supping coffee and tea leisurely and then showering and watching magical tv. That's awesome.
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>>736611024
>leaker

lol
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>>736611112
>science-fiction
:|
>science-fiction but it's actually magic
:O
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I'd argue that even the Endwalker Garlemald stuff looked too out of place.
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>>736604346
>scifi fueled by magic isn't fantasy
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>>736611217
picture this

runway emote but its a girl in frilly dress armor
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>>736611215
Had zoraal ja accepted those flowers he would have become a better man
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>>736611215
It's funny, the more they've departed from fantasy and delivered straight up boring 'grounded' designs, modern glams e.t.c. the game has lost massively it's appeal to people.
They've lost the focus of what a Final Fantasy game should be.

Imagine walking around the Forests of Gridania with all those cash shop modern glams and doing the cat walk/ run way emote in front of Sprouts?
They'd be so confused and think this game is a fucking mess.
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>>736611251
>we could have had chibi wuk lamat
bros....
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>>736609975
guy who didn't know the cash shop existed before this fanfest
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>>736611317

Leakers have been posting shit here months ahead of time on this website since Heavensward back in 2015. It isn't incredulous.
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>>736609308
I swear I've seen multiple tanks playing like literal bots in recent expert roulettes I've done. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they actually were
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>>736609975
>dude it's good because I'm pretending everything is depressing and gritty and everyone smells like piss and shit even though that has never been a standard in any game of the franchise
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>>736611583
and its bullshit till proven right
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>>736611024
>leaker
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>>736611496
>Defends shit that is actively harming the game because he's a corporate cum guzzler.
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>>736611215
>furry expansion
How much longer until 8.0 reveal?
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>>736611347
It was. Garlemald tended to have a more fantastical feel to it despite being heavily industrial, which made sense considering they were a low-magic force led by a group that literally couldn't use magic.
It helped fo contrast them against Allag and Eorzea, with the former being High Tech and High Magic, while the latter was Low Tech High Magic. In essence it was a perfect contrast to Eorzea while still having a touch of Allag to it.
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Fire kate and fire hiroi!
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>>736611217
The emote is just an emote while the Ivalice raid is an entire locale lifted from a different game, I would say yes the game's direction should not be Matsuno Forever and that is worse than an emote being added
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>>736607664
Asmongolds mother got herself killed through her own poor choices
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>>736610987
You mean actual cellular comms. The garleans talk through smartphones and shit
Also tomestones are literally USB data sticks i'm surprised that people make all that fuss over electrope when the tech was always there with the allagan. It's just that the funny purple rock is more magical than the funny rock glyphs the allagan useS
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>>736611339
Yes? Anon, the flavor is literally what matters. There is mechanically no difference between a scry spell, a security camera, and electromagnetic recording nannite dust.
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>>736611663
matsunon is such a hack even the japs hate him. His dickrider fanbase are cringr
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>>736611645
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>>736611583
Doesn't mean you aren't a massive retard for believing the most obvious bullshit imaginable.
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>>736604682
>Sphene
>Shale
>Honey B. Lovely
>Vamp Fatale
>The cat sisters
>Sugar Riot
>Quite likely Zelenia
>Possibly more I'm forgetting
The most unbelievable thing about DT's story is that the people on the ninth shard ever stopped running mating presses on their women long enough to actually develop electrope technology or go to war.
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>>736611680
It's more that people moan about electrope being a super-material capable of most anything with enough arcanima programming behind it and they're deliberately ignoring that electrope is stated to only work reliably or over long periods when enough lightning is saturating the area
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TAKE ME BACK
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>>736605298
Cayex was better than Ilberd, Warriors of Darkness in post-HW content (not Shadowbringers),Tsuyus brother, the comedic garlean clown general in SB and better than several sidecontent villains like Xande or the entirety of the Bozja/Zadnor snorefest.
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>>736611843
the reptile dudes were cool as fuck
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>>736611935
Entirely wrong.
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>>736611753
>t.
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>>736611786
All the brown girls are descended from source people stuck in the dome.
>>736611935
>Cayex was better than Ilberd
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>>736611583
"Leakers" also said the 7.0 classes were Corsair and Blitzballer
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>Saves your expansion
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>>736604682
I spend around 20 bucks extra every time I sub for some shop items. Is 7 a lot for you?
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>>736604275
FFXIV IS BACK JACK!
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>>736612039
biggest surprise of the expac for me, thought they'd be lame as fuck, but I actually like them more than most of the beast tribes
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>>736607804
Your post is disingenuous as fuck and you know it.
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>>736612039
There never was any doubt about that.
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>>736612219
Perfectly in line with the thread and let's be honest the entire board at this point
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>>736612126
I'm not interested in getting findommed by old Japanese men
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>>736612356
hey guys i got a new leak

the new job is The Game
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>>736612356
It's why this game will never improve. People like that covering for bad decisions SE keep making by posting disingenuously.
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>>736612108
The cope about waiting for Meteor-kun to whip out a pistol for the full trailer and shoot daddy Jaja in the gace with it was peak comedy. The one dude who red outlined a shadow to look like a pistol holster was malding i imagine.
BLZ was just because phy-range needs love and the comment about DNC being them experimenting with throwing weapons. The silliest thing they could do now is release it in the expansion with assumed ties to X. Even funnier would be if GEO is real but a fucking Tank and eating the job of Runefencer/Mystic Knight with mage armor or some shit
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>>736609256
>demoted that Kate bitch
Was she demoted or fired and how was it even confirmed? She disappeared from the public sometime last year.
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As long as the crossbows look high tech or supersized magical shooting aether elemental aether bolts and not based on something boring or “realistic” it’d acceptable
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>>736612756
she was removed from her old position as localization lead. i'm guessing that she got promoted to somewhere she couldn't hurt anything
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>>736611663
>>736611719
>Defends catwalk emote that is erp coded
>Hates fantastical areas and spectacles

No wonder this game has gone to shit.
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>>736612219
No it isn't?
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>>736612108
Blitzball is a shitpost I'm pretty sure, if nothing else than because Wakka was a Ranger with some shit cribbed from Black Mage and he doesn't have much to him past the fact his ranged weapon is a ball
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>>736612756
All talk about her current employment is speculation desu
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>>736612756
Maybe she ACKed
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>>736612756
She was fairly prominent in being a public face and hard vanished.
Combine that with proof that she has been insulting the playerbase and it seems obvious
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>>736612840
WAITER
WAITER
MORE MATSUNO MEMBERBERRIES
I DON'T FEEL PROPERLY SPECTACLED YET
HOW DARE YOU DEFEND AN EMOTE HRHBLGRHLBHLR
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>>736612756
some anon found out she was not fired, she got japanese "promoted" into a job with less responsibility deep inside a windowless office far from media and public but it had nothing to do with her political shit. She was simply bad at her job.
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still hasn't been beaten imho
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>>736612684
GEO is never gonna be a thing. They already tied it too closely to AST, so any 'leaker' who says GEO is already full of shit. Mystic Knight I could believe.
I think the big test whenever someone says something is to think about the weapon. They've stated that the major limitation for coming up with new Jobs is the weapon design because they have to be ready to make infinite versions of that weapon that look unique.
That's why I have a hard time imagining a Mystic Knight.
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>>736613028
She was around for like one fanfest
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>>736613034
>catwalks at you
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>>736612803
We won't know until we see credits from the 8.X expansion. Guessing she won't even show up on stage at fanfest if she's still there.
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>>736612756
All we know is
>She was replaced as NA Localization lead by Paul
>In interviews since Koji has not mentioned her even though he spoke of people he "passed the torch to"
>She has no made public appearances since
>She has not spoke of SE or XIV since online
So we don't know yet. She either
>is still around somewhere and was told to stfu and lay low
or
>was let go
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>>736613093
I think if they ever make Geomancer a reality it'll be the big snowsuit version from FF5 and not the feng sui FFXI version they've dedicated into NPC hell
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>>736613156
Maybe, but it wouldn't be called Geomancer because the name's already used in the AST Job Quest, describing AST.
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>>736613093
>Mystic Knight
I'd prefer rune fencer, but we already have 5 jobs using types of swords, 6 if you count certain NIN weapons.
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>>736613229
There's wiggle room for it to be called that anyways courtesy of Occult Crescent identifying it by the FFV job sprite
Plus the game still differentiates between Nymian Scholars with a capital S and just normal educated scholars
I'd imagine you'd get a blurb about the funny easterners developing a superficially pretty similar method of magic that uses bells and also calling it geomancy
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>>736606369
>Because it sells
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>>736613428
>pop trend graph that caps out at less than half of the actual numbers
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>>736610241
You see anon, none of the people complaining played any Final Fantasy before this, they're tourists from other MMOs. They know jack shit about the franchise.
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>>736613093
>That's why I have a hard time imagining a Mystic Knight.
The only way I can see Mystic Knight working is if they lean hard into the not!Middle Eastern identity with scimitars as a weapon type, kinda like the second boss of Merchant's Tale.
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>>736613428
Yeah, modernslop sells in the mogststion, player count dropped in DT with gear aesthetics probably not even in the top 5 reasons.
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>>736613548
I strongly suspect some streamer moaned about the setting being "incongruous" or some other word that makes dipshits feel smart, since broken immersion and Solution Nine have been a shitposter hot-button for a few weeks.
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>>736607697
It's literally the fact, toddler. Go back to TikTok.
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>>736611719

He fucked up with Bozja's conclusion and destroyed his reputation. Even Yoshida was clearly bitter about his former boss being an unbelievable hack in the end.

So much of Bozja and Garlemald has been memory holed because the developers were either sick of penning stories with them or just ignore them completely, pretending they don't even exist.

At least you fucking went to the Arcadian Empire in FFXII. All of Garlemald's garbage is just off-screen civil war resulting in it being a wrecked trash heap inbetween expansions.
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>>736613231
Rune Fencer is the same issue, unless they visually overhauled the class, I think it overlaps with DRK too much.
>>736613305
I wouldn't use OC as a point of evidence here, because Phantom Jobs aren't the same as Jobs, while AST being described as GEO is.
And are you saying educated scholars as the class, or in the 'Went to school' scholar? Because I'm pretty sure they recognize the Nymian Scholars as the same type of Scholar as in the Job.
It's not that they can't use the same word in other places, but it's the context of what that word is referring to.
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>>736613593
If they ever appear then Occult Crescent blurbs about how the job works has pretty well pigeon-holed them into that, it must be a magic sword with unaspected crystal inlaid into the blade in some way and the Mystic Knights of their heyday preferred curved swords apparently
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>>736613548
Do you argue the same thing about 7R NPCs? You know, the ones that look like they stumbled out of a department stor catalog. Shit looks out of place, I'd rather go back to FFX tropical BDSM gear.
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I miss playing XIV.
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>>736613093
MYS can be saved by them just calling their weapons Knight Blades(Straight Edge, Runeblades, ect). Even GNB is just a saber/scimitar/falchion logically when you look at the animations outside the gun boom boom shit. Faster Dark Knight swinging not-longswords mixed grip is right up their lazy avenue
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>>736613717
They don’t look remotely out of place in the world of ff vii
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>>736613717
Guys were walking around in contemporary plainclothes and suits already in the original FF7, people are just mad seeing it on anybody but Turks
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>>736604346
If they didnt it would mean focusing on Wuk lamat and Tural but they know even jap players hate wuk
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The way this thread is full of Tolkien slop brainrotted WoWfags crashing out is fucking hilarious.
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>>736613815
i know right. 'people' complaining about modernslop never say that the arcadion fighters are bad designs
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>>736613735
Why do they have tits?
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Nobody's forcing you shrieking babies to wear the clothes.
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>>736613982
I hate that you're right, I don't think I've really seen anybody moan about the Arcadion fighters.
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>>736613717
>Muh R
I don't need to post a remake to show you wacky scifi in Final Fantasy.
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>>736607804
Don't forget to mention the megaphones and footb- I mean blitzball hooligans
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>>736613949
I feel like there has been a significant uptick of dingleberries pretending every “fantasy” series has to fall inline with the doldrum of Tolkien works
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>>736614021
you don't understand. modernslop ruins my immersion. the entire playerbase has to look the way i want them and the developers should cater exclusively to me

the exact same argument trannies use
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>>736612840
Matsuno is so trash he couldn't even finish the Bozja area properly.
Ivalice cocksuckers really are something else
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>>736613773
It's not what they call the weapon, it's the size/shape/design of it. Gunbreaker can kind of get away iwth it because it does have design distinction with PLD swords, on top of the removal of shields, but I don't think you can easily get that with other "Big Sword" jobs. The weapons just seem too similar.
Any future tanks aren't going to be "Big 2 hand Sword". Anything that falls too close to that is incredibly unlikely.
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>>736614061
NTA
It's simply because THEY DON'T PLAY THE FUCKING GAME!
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>>736614020
Their power is in their pecs, and they have a lot of power.
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>>736614146
If there's any overlap at all it'll be for one or two off-weapons, like how Paladin shares a VERY small number of dagger models with Ninja or Dark Knight has an odachi sword
Pic related is the same model as the Behemoth Knives from ARR, mysteriously Garland Tools doesn't mention this
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>>736605863
Final Fantasy 10's entire backstory is that they lived in a scifi world with robots and machines but also magic until Zanarkand flipped the fuck out over losing a war to Bevelle and created Sin, with the controlling summoner flipping the fuck out, going insane, and deciding to purge technology. "Is it really that modern", did you miss the entire opening section of the game?
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>>736614146
They can just stick a big ass gaudy gem on the guard/pommel/blade and call it good
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>>736614378
anon, the shitposters here don't play the games they complain about

and if they had, and they miss details like your example, then their opinion isn't worth anything
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>>736614410
It'd be somewhere in the blade, MYS stated to use unaspected crystal inlays for elemental sword enchantments
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>>736605863
>Is 10 really that modern?
brother have you even played beginning of it for 5 minutes?
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>>736609308
I'm going to be completely honest with you anon. Setting the whole thing up and watching it works makes me way more interested in the game. It almost reminds me of Final Fantasy XII.

>will they make it through this boss?
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>>736614140
That's because his cocksucking underling decided it wasn't worth the budget and stopped it cold, hence a lot of story was shoved into field notes after the fact. Nobody knows why, but Matsuno and Yoshi-P had some kind of falling out around that time that's still going on since Matsuno said he had several project proposals for more Ivalice games shot down by Yoshi and that the FFT remaster is likely all we'll get at this point.
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>>736614624
never meet your heroes. i met one of the lalas once
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>>736614624
I don't think any of that happened and it just got squashed because it was turning into a concurrent separate MSQ and represented a higher and higher wall for getting to the new stuff every time in every expac
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It’s like the people who complain about fallout not really being post apocalyptic but more directly focused on what happens to humanity as it moves past the post apocalypse an moves on
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zoning into a duty amd being the only one not wearing modern clothing is embarrassing.
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>>736613982
I do, I think they are gaudy and lame. It literally made me take them less seriously as encounters and I don't think they are all that memorable or interesting to look at either.
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>>736614736
I met one of them and was never the same again. They gave me... A DYED CLASSICAL MEDICUS LAUREL
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>>736614624
>Matsuno and Yoshi-P had some kind of falling out
Just because Flopsuno suggests something doesn't mean it should be added to the game.
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>>736604275
>Emote for $6.30
Id be more mad about this if 6 and a half dollars bought you anything these days. You can barley get a shitty burger from McDonalds for that price now. But hey at least Israel is happy :)
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>>736607804
Why'd they bother wasting time designing all these outfits? Didn't they know they could just copy outfits from a random page of an H&M catalog and it'd still be Final Fantasy?
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>>736614796
The pain of zoning in and being the only one not playing as a girl or a femboy is immeasurable by comparison.
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>>736613056
>bad at her job
>gets promoted
Insanity
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>>736614920
women should never complain ever about having it bad in the workplace
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>>736614834
i kinda miss that outfit. ah well, times are a changin
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>>736614920
a japanese "promotion" is not a good thing
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>>736614897
oh no! the party is my harem, they're all girls or close enough to girls!
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>>736612756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ry6kiHG2W8
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>>736615047
Would be ideal if I didn't know they were some combination of fat, bald or ugly and male irl.

It's like being at a furry convention and everyone has a female or femboy fursona.
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>>736615164
i can tell this is lanselot clickbait just from the title
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>>736614140
Why are you so brain broken and fixated on Matsuno but you've said nothing about the absolute shite that is the cat walk emote and modern glam?
Are you dumb?
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>>736615291
sisters... the narrative... we need to... re-establish the narrative...
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It's called Final FANTASY. Millennial clothes and sci-fi faggotry do not being in Final FANTASY.
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>>736615367
nvm "sisters" implies more than one guy is doing this
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>>736615367
>Crying non-stop about Matsuno
>Hasn't said a single word against the Cat walk emote, the modern glams, the erp coded cash shop items that start this entire conversation chain.
Tell me you're a /xivg/ modbeast without telling me you're a /xivg/ modbeast.
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>fantasy means you have to wear rags and pissant robes
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>>736615498
fantasy means you ignore every other game in the series and hyperfixate on ARR and HW's gear designs
you won't see it in the same breath as stormblood gear design because you can just whip out the lost allagan set and shit all over them
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>>736615498
i need leaf leotards with built in garters and leggings

also, my in setting miniskirt
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>>736605987
I’m just get the emote
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I just want playable Lupin. Got to many cats
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>>736615704
>hyur with a wolf head
FURRY
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Sex with brown cat women. All of them.
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>>736613949
>>736614110
I like to remind these people that fucking AD&D's original setting (Greyhawk) is secretly scifi, and that the granddaddy of every W and JRPG (the Ultima franchise) involves scifi laser weapons and spaceships. Like this idea that modern or advanced technology hiding or even being in plain sight in their fantasy setting is some evil 'modernslop' invention and not extremely common going back to the pulp novels that inspired everything they play is so ridiculous. It used to be more common than a straightforward no-tech medieval fantasy. Even fucking Tolkien himself was concepting the idea of making his setting scifi (the round world cosmology) before he gave up.
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>>736615816
and at the end of the day it's usually just paying homage to the atlantis myth too
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>>736615851
You'd think with how much they like to meme about Hyperborea they'd get the concept.
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>>736615901
skyrim has done irreparable damage to the average immersiontard's sense of fantasy
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>>736613773
>>736614146
Why not just invest in making them Middle Eastern/Persian-themed? That gives them a strong contrast to Paladin and Dark Knight's mostly western-styled and Samurai's Japanese-styled swords?
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>>736615958
Talk to a Skyrimfag about KINMUNE and if he even knows what that is watch him start frothing at the mouth.
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>>736616017
it's probably why they've been taking careful pains to not imply rune fencer existed or exists in the setting (valerian rune fencer is tactics ogre not FFXI)
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>>736615759
>Hyur with cat ears, bunny ears, some scales and horns,

Considering the original concept art for Lupin, they could say its a different strand of lupin or some shit and make that.
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>>736616096
you are now manually aware lupin were added specifically so eureka could still mention a wolf-man as galuf's warriors of dawn party
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>>736615470
Those subhumans mod their outfits into the game (hence the term modbeasts), they don't need the modern slop to actually be in the game. You're the retard here.
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>>736616096
>another race they would badly implement
>another race with no helmets
No thanks
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>>736615418
I beg illiterate retards like you to google (since you probably don't own a dictionary) the word fantasy for once in your life
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>>736616017
Yes, that would work. I'd almost imagine something akin to a Kopesh, with a magical crystal floating in the curve. That would be design wise distinct from the other classes.
Remember, the problem isn't model overlap, it's weapon category design. If the weapon category isn't distinct enough, they (probably) won't make it a class.
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>>736616096
>considering the original concept
We already saw how that turned out for Au Ra and Vieras, hard pass.
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Gimme Burmecians.
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>>736616252
I thought they fixed that already? I haven't played in years, but regardless, I would play Lupin in a heartbeat
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>>736615605
I would actually be very happy to play an exclusively caveman/prehistoric RPG.
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>>736616393
they added a metric ton of hats and a small number of helmets to viera, hrothgar still have more helmets iirc
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>>736615704
>>736616096
I agree with you here, much as I liked the Ronso the fucking Hrothgar are a shit implementation of the concept, and since we already had a cat race we really needed something different. Lupins would've been great for that.
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>>736615816
>Like this idea that modern or advanced technology hiding or even being in plain sight in their fantasy setting is some evil 'modernslop' invention and not extremely common going back to the pulp novels that inspired everything they play is so ridiculous.
Wtf bro, nobody complaining about modernslop is using the word to mean that the idea is modern, just that the look is. The problem is that it is just ripped from present day fashion instead of having actual fantastical looks. We had high tech Garleans from the beginning but we only complained about them when they got cars that just looked like regular cars instead of looking like magitek.
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>>736616514
Looking at you people screaming up and down the thread about how you hate modern and scifi stuff in your fantasy and explicitly and outright having ZERO idea about almost every FF game having it (someone didn't even know FFX did, despite the entire opening sequence showing it off) I just straight out don't believe you at this point. Your issue is that you came in as a tourist to this franchise and you expect high medieval armor and peasant tunics and can't deal with the fact that they haven't even pretended to cleave to that since SB.
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>>736616671
Referring to people that aren't me (I literally only just entered this thread) does not address my argument in the slightest.
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>>736616365
>Au Ra are generally pretty cool other than the men having weird narrow face models, as long as you're not a furry lizard fucker they're great
>Viera are literally just Ivalice Viera except the men, instead of being house husbands, are autistic jungle loners so I have no idea how anyone who ever cared about Viera can have an issue with them unless you didn't care about the lore and only wanted furry bunny people
I don't see a problem desu.
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>>736616413
There he is! His biggest fan!
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>>736616413
so monster hunter?
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>>736616860
i don't mind male viera in the setting personally even if i think erring on the twinkier side for them is underwhelming, should've been more visually similar to male au ra i think
i always wondered why the absolute fuck it was only male viera that stayed exclusively in the forest (knowing full well it's to justify matsuno having a race of exclusively female, tall nubile chocolate not-elves running around) and most male viera getting instantly domesticated into soft house husbands after stepping out of the jungle is funny
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>>736616860
Way to miss the point, post the concept art for both of those races and the results we got. That's what you're doing with Lupins, it COULD be cool yes, when all you're gonna get is human with animal face and technical limitations prease understando
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>>736616991
switch axe, gunlance, charge blade and the bowguns destroy that particular fantasy, granted it's the closest you're going to get even if most of the bone-and-scale aesthetic is because monster hides and bones tend to be better than actual man-made construction materials, including metal
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>>736617043
there's the background lore reason that they have to stay within a certain human mold to justify the whole beastman vs. humans conflict that they carried over from XI towards the beginning of the game, then the later background lore reason that all human playable races are offshoot evolutions of the proto-humans, even if it works on goofy warhammer 40K abhuman rules where different selective pressures result in really wacky mutations into other fantasy races
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>>736617056
i can get behind grugcore, but i would need more than club, throwing spear, regular spear and bow and arrows
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>>736616991
Not an RPG.
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>>736617142
yea the underlying thing nobody wants to talk about is grugcore is kinda boring on its face, even primal by genndy tartakovsky gets wacky and fantasy with it up to and including the setting being on the absolute tail end of the prehistoric era with modern humans building empires, the sea people running about, spear may be the last neanderthal, etc
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>>736617189
i was referring to the aesthetic
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>>736617189
stats, elemental weaknesses and strengths, gear-based power progression doesn't count?
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>>736616994
>even if i think erring on the twinkier side for them is underwhelming, should've been more visually similar to male au ra i think
Anon, before FFXIV they were basically the Viera's women. They stayed in the house and did all the chores and weren't allowed to leave or show themselves to strangers. FFXIV made them MANLIER. If they did what you wanted they wouldn't resemble Viera at all.
>>736617043
My POINT is that Au Ra look fine unless you're a furfag, and if you're a furfag I don't care about your opinion. My point with Viera is that if you wanted them to be furry bunny people then you are asking for them to violate the lore and every appearance of Viera before this game. Furry bunny people wouldn't be Viera, it would be equivalent to a Burmecian showing up and looking like Nazrin from Touhou, you'd be rightfully pissed. Viera being furry would rightfully piss off Viera fans.
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>>736611843
>Zoraal ja becomes a king for a gorillion years
>Doesn't even tap the queen of his country
>Instead gets raped by a schizo medic bitch and strapped with a bastard
That man needed some serious pussy whipping. Speen had one fucking job
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>>736617389
i like to think that Zoraal Ja freaking out about his son is that he didn't know sex makes babies
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>>736611786
Anon everyone but zelenia are source girls. The 9th had a few immigrants only.
Why do you think S9 has so many people?
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>people think its a ff7 expansion
>yfw its actually a nier expansion, collab part 2
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>>736617574
Like they would base a whole expansion on a collab
cmon now
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>>736617659
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>>736617659
Yeah
they're not Bungie, after all
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>>736612575
>I'm not interested in getting findommed by old Japanese men
>still pays 15 dollars a month for a sub
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The new job is going to be an FF14-exclusive one like Viper, Yoshi-P has said multiple times that he prefers not drawing on jobs from old FF games now
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>>736617735
please, enlighten me
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>>736617836
viper has some inspiration from zidane, but yeah its largely kirito.

rather than picking a FF protag, maybe we should look at cool weapons to speculate
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dead game
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when are they gonna remove instanced zones and make the whole world available in one map like WoW does?
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>>736617979
thats like asking when are they gonna drop consoles
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>>736617979
>will the laziest devs in the industry do work????
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>>736618006
>thats like asking when are they gonna drop consoles
...well?
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Buy the taco t-shirt.
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>>736617979
Not going to happen, the engine uses a string of instances for every location like a Bethesda game. You would practically need to make a whole new game to make it open world.
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>>736618136
ff11 only dropped consoles 5-6 years ago. and that was only because they ran out of devkits
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>>736618136
They're not
FF MMOs on consoles are its thing
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>>736618213
so you mean FFXVII then?
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>>736618259
fuck no. ff17 is going to be an amalgamation of 5 year old trends when it releases in 2029
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>>736617389
>enter loveless marriage
>no sex
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>>736618136
they're never going to drop consoles (in fact they've been doing talks for the switch 2 port apparently) but they'll keep bumping up what the most modern thing you can play it on is, PS4 is gonna be a difficult chopping block but it's on the chopping block
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>>736618315
Combined with the settings/world buildin of a popular tv show from 5 years ago or so
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>>736618439
Switch 2 port is all but confirmed it'll get announced at the NA fanfest as some big announcement on stage, guarantee it.
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>>736618543
this time without streamers soi-pogging over the thought of xbox, at least
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>>736605186
Sensor Tower is vibes based chink propaganda, but I will believe it if it allows me to shit on SE.
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>>736618506
better call saul game could be fun
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>>736618657
i'm saaaaul goodman
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>>736617447
the dialogue strongly hints at this (at least it did to me on first read)
>why is this bitch bothering me so much?
>whatever, I'll let her have this, maybe she'll leave me alone now
>what are you carrying?
>it's my what now?
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>>736617447
uhh...how DO Mamool Ja make babies? I thought the moms birth eggs right? Does that mean they have cloacas?
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>>736607664
>>736607365
Imagine being as deranged as you are.
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>>736618762
lizards and birds still do have penetrative sex, just there's a cloaca with a vaginal tract
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>>736609736
Yeah, fake images are pretty rude.
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I really miss ARR/HW days. I mean sure, the game has always had dumb costumes and bikini tanks. But it's been trending way too far into the Second Life VRchat scene for way too long now. It's so alienating to want a normal immersive MMORPG world but it's full to the brim of stuff you'd see on the streets of Miami (hoodies, sneakers, mobile phones etc).

It's so jarring when you go somewhere like Foundation where it's all knights wearing armor you'd see in the 1700s. Then someone runs past you wearing modern stuff you see in everyday life.

You can tell they had different ideas of casual when you look at the NPCs in the starter cities and the casual clothes are tabards or hempen gear or whatever, not hoodies. Idk man, I really think this is it for me and this game.
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>>736619042
tl;dr
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>>736619042
i only see 2 modern sloppers here
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>>736619173
He hates modern clothing, it ruins his immersion
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Okay, I'm going to have to confront this bullshit eventually, I all but stopped outright after initially completing the MSQ of Dawntrail at launch. Do I wait until next expac launch so I can just tomestone the gear, or what the hell do I do again to trudge through the patch cycle grind to be able get ready? I simply checked out so hard I forget besides how fucktarded the sheer grind is between expansions.
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>>736619228
gay
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>>736619252
better do relic weapons grinds now so you aren't stuck grinding anyways in 8.0 when tomestone costs turn to poetics
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>>736605863
>>736607804
>>736614378
>Is 10 really that modern?
Yeah, this looks just like San Francisco.
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>>736616514
>we only complained about them when they got cars that just looked like regular cars
Because Final Fantasy never had cars before. Squall is just riding a really weird chocobo.
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>>736613693
We're going back to Garlemald next patch
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>>736619356
couldn't be me completely ignoring streetlights, highways, organized sports leagues, giant water generating blitzball machinery and holographic ads in zanarkand to have anything resembling a point
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>>736619484
>but what about this completely different game in a completely different setting?
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>>736619173
Anon never played a FF game before this one.
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>>736619519
>fantastical ancient machinery = modernslop
Why can't you faggots ever be honest about anything?
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Queue garuda extreme please I can't (don't want to) continue on to heavensward
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>>736619578
>Highways and streetlights are fantastical ancient machinery
Were you just a third worlder this entire time?
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>>736619619
>queuing for extremes
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>736618762
I just assume all "humans" in the setting reproduce like humans do no matter how furry they are. worst case scenario the women pop eggs out of their vaginas and men have two dicks.
I mean, we haven't seen femroths complain about barbed cocks have we
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>>736619672
Are you actually such a hylic you don't understand the difference between tech level and aesthetic, or are you just intentionally being a dishonest faggot? There is nothing about this that looks modern.
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>>736613982
they are to me. I know Im not like others, but they're so bad
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>>736616096
This is gay. You are a fag.
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>>736604275
I wish the game died with shadowbringers.
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>>736619549
He would probably sit here and tell you with a straight face that Neku looks out of place here. Secondaries don't know Tifa wore a miniskirt.
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>>736619578
Does this character look like they live in a medieval fantasy setting to you?
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>>736619849
>if it's not medieval it's modern
Put a bullet through your empty skull.
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>>736619760
>hylic
cringe ass nae nae pseud
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>>736619917
>no argument
Raped that concession right out of you, huh?
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Watch out guys he's gonna call you gay and tell you to kill yourself if you don't agree with his broken immersion
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ITT disingenuous cucks upset that people reply to them disingenuously KEK
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Looks just like Dodger Stadium to me guys.
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>>736619524
>Garlemald is established to be technologically advanced and Eorzea is a backwater, so they have cars
>Anon acts like cars are somehow a step too far for a FF game
>Cries nonsensically when I post a screenshot from a previous game at him featuring a car
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>>736605107
retarded faggots always say this shit like having robots and space ships that look clunky and can be confused for magic automatons is the same as literally walking up the street of a modern city wearing normal fucking clothing
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>>736619760
>hylic
Okay I'm dealing with some deranged /pol/ schizo, knew it.
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some modern clothing isn't bad but porting fast fashion pieces is so lame
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>>736611843
________TIME________
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>>736620075
Are you actually such a hylic you don't understand the difference between tech level and aesthetic, or are you just intentionally being a dishonest faggot? Anon specifically complained about the appearance of the cars, not the existence of them.
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XIV trannies will do anything to have a general on /v/
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>>736620075
AIEEEE NOMURA-SAMA PLEASE STOP
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>>736619904
She's in a modern shirt and a mini-skirt, senpai. The only thing weird about her is the sleeve thing.
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>>736605186
damn they really milk the hell out of FF VII, poor thing
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>>736620023
nyoooo you need to give my non-argument a debate level rebuttal, hylic dishonest retard kill yourself *rapes u*
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>>736620114
>no argument? just cry about /pol/!
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>>736620158
>hylic
Seriously, this whole time was the 'waaah modern SLOP' just one guy and also a schizo? Jesus.
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Get in loser
We're going argue about modernslop
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>>736607853
only 7 days
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>>736620262
it's usually the same guy over and over yeah, keep eyes peeled for a pic with a couple garleans on a white backdrop and underneath is a S9 pvp set
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>>736620029
FFX was so kino in setting
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>>736620149
No more wolves upon the west
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>>736620094
FF7 and FF8 both happened.
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>>736620279
did you know there are trains in uldah?

literal modern setting RUINING my immersion!
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>>736620203
No she's not. You can't find me a shirt like that anywhere. It's leather and clasped with belts, and has those long blue tassels on the back. That's also besides the point which is that not being medieval doesn't make it modern. There are other types of settings. You're both stupid and dishonest.
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Imagine still playing this shit
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>>736611347
EW ruined Garlemald and Garleans
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>>736620359
hell this thread already brought up OG FF7 having three piece suits and other "modernslop" clothing

but uhhhhhhh uhhhhhh you're a hylic so i win
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>>736620452
>but what about this other game in another setting?
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>>736620262
>Surprised that the retard crying about anachronic shit in the poster child of kitchen sink rpgs is retarded
I thought you guys just kept feeding the lolcow attention for shits and giggles
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>>736611347
Im still mad that Garlemald got nothing more than some destroyed frozen zone. I expected Garlemald politics and navigating through all the fallout of the leadership. We got Northern Courethon instead.
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>square consistently embarrassing themselves by catering to sex-pests/furries/mentally ill ERPers instead of the core audience that's always been 40-year-old boomers who simply want Final Fantasy
what is their endgame with this franchise
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>>736620438
garlemald and garleans ruined garlemald and garleans
ARR was already heavily implying they were ascian stooges through the allag parallels
they were basically destined for a self-destructive chimp out
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>>736620262
How many times are you gonna cry about being called a hylic before you find an argument?
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>>736620452
Neo Midgar is obviously Agartha
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I hope we get new gear in 8.0 that looks like some of the tacticool sets from xenoblade x. That would be sweet
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>>736604275
I just started playing yesterday, I made a thaumaturge, will there be any major changes to that or black mage that I should know?
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>>736619848
>Lemme just dig up the most shit-core ass WRPG looking screenshot I can!
Okay senpai. The fact that you can try to pretend this shit is what every FF before 14 looked like while also trying to simp for Amano at the same time is unreal. Even the fucking slums in FF7 had more color than that.
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>>736620452
I wonder how these people would handle the ending to something like Drakengard 1 or some other more recent games that do similar things.
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>>736620713
Oh, wait, suddenly it matters what the game looks like?
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>>736620701
>thaumaturge

the only class that has a different playstyle every 10 levels. enjoy
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>>736620763
Drakengard literally takes place in medieval Europe and ends in time travel to real life Tokyo. What the fuck are you even trying to say?
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>>736620452
look man I don't know what this schizo faggot's deal is but you can't just rely on strawmanning your stupid shit to him to brush everything off, ff7 being a shitty gritty sci-fantasy setting doesn't make it less retarded for ffxiv to go from typical fantasy hardline into just normal-ass cyberpunk looking city streets. cloud did not wake up in kokiri forest at the start of 7 then go to fucking night city
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>>736620202
SOVL
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>>736620768
The entire argument is that you bitching about modern and scifi tech in your fantasy game indicates you don't play FF. "I don't think a scifi city fits in my fantasy!" is a retarded argument when almost very game pulls that twist at least once.
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>>736620392
>You can't find me a shirt like that anywhere.
Not entirely the same, but definitely the same style of top. Face it anon, Nomura drew from modern fashion when designing the characters and world of FF10. It's okay to say you like modern styles.
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>>736620826
>they were in Europe
They are all Japanese characters in an alternate Japan
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>>736620826
I'm curious if they start seething at that anachronistic change. Where it goes from fantasy to a modern city.
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>>736620779
I unlocked scathe before I logged off yesterday, what is the use of that ability? It seems like its better to just switch between ice and fire based on mana since it doesnt seem to do a ton of damage
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>>736620279
SOULESS
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>>736620872
You should take a look at Drakengard's map.
>>736620878
Then you fundamentally don't understand what anyone is complaining about.
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>>736620890
at low levels its what you use to keep your GCD rolling while you move. it stops being useful pretty quickly though
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>>736620763
Make them play Ultimate III and suddenly run into a space ship and go fight the evil space AI.
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>>736620926
>Then you fundamentally don't understand what anyone is complaining about.
The initial post was
>Why do the devs hate fantasy so much and try to make the game into this modern slop shit?
So what did the goalposts move to since then?
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>>736620869
>Face it anon, Nomura drew from modern fashion when designing the characters and world of FF10
He DREW FROM modern fashions, yes. Because FFX is a post-apocalypse setting with people living around scraps of an ancient high tech society. That doesn't make it modern. The clothing design starts from a modern baseline but then gets fluffed up into something unique.
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>>736620872
I think it’s funny when tourists try to pretend cloud Barrett Tifa and Aerith are anything other than fantasy Japanese also. Or link and Zelda etc
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>>736620842
>to go from typical fantasy hardline
Garlemald was in 1.0. It was never that. Eorzea was that, but Eorzea is a technological backwater. Not only is your argument ignoring that fact, but you're ignoring how S9 is from a different shard, and by all logic there's no reason to think every shard needs to be stuck at the same technological level of the backwater of the Source. You can sit here and talk about how you think S9 looks BAD next to Zanarkand or Midgar or Esthar or whatever you want, but you can't sit here and get mad that "Waow there's a big scifi city!" happens in a FF game.
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you see this? this is fantasy

but it has too many colors. its not gothic catholic elf france so its not fantasy
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>>736619484
FF8 is completely free to establish the look and feel of its own setting.
The 4th expansion of XIV was NOT free to overrule the established look and feel of Garlean technology and make it look like generic present-day technology instead of the cool magitek (a mix of sci-fi and fantasy) they were previously associated with. This isn't beyond your understanding, anon. This is a concept you are able to grasp if you honestly try.
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>>736620994
Again, you fundamentally do not understand the argument. Drakengard is a game that begins in an alt-history Europe and ends in time travel. There's nothing unacceptable there about real life Tokyo showing up because that is the whole point of the game. FFXIV began as a colonial era setting with a high tech empire whose technology still looked weird and fantastical, and now we sip coffee in uniqlo while NPCs shop on Amazon. It's a massive departure from what the setting was, unlike Drakengard.
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>>736621043
>Now you don't get it if that t-shirt I'm shitting myself over had a belt clasp on it then I would totally be okay with it suddenly
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>>736621043
>Because FFX is a post-apocalypse setting with people living around scraps of an ancient high tech society. That doesn't make it modern.
By those metrics, the Matrix movies are not modern because they are set in a post-apocalyptic setting with the people living around scraps of an ancient, high tech society.
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>>736620513
No but they're BASED and CHAD because I can project my politics onto them!
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>>736621090
>Eorzea was that, but Eorzea is a technological backwater. Not only is your argument ignoring that fact, but you're ignoring how S9 is from a different shard
There are t-shirts in the Gold Saucer now, bud.
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>>736621276
the gold saucer has air conditioning
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>>736620496
>instead of the core audience that's always been 40-year-old boomers who simply want Final Fantasy
Yeah bro the people who played prior Final Fantasy games, games which had ZERO sexy women, and ZERO furries in it. Oh wait...
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>>736621220
When they're outside the simulation, yeah. But most of the movie takes place in a replication of 1999 Earth so that's a modern setting.
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the same people tagging others for using the word 'hylic' wrong are using the word 'modern' wrong
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>>736621090
Someone brought it up earlier, but it remind me of dragon age threads where needs get assblasted that the rest of the world is high fantasy and ferelden is a backwater dog puddle of lowest bottom tier shitters. Essentially being the low end outlier compared to everywhere else interesting in the setting
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>>736621153
>The 4th expansion of XIV was NOT free to overrule the established look and feel of Garlean technology and make it look like generic present-day technology instead of the cool magitek (a mix of sci-fi and fantasy) they were previously associated with.
?
You see a capital city that was meant for civilian living compared to the military arm that is structured very differently. You see a city the Garleans overtook in ShB, and they basically restructured it to look not that far removed from modern living while hiding a giant magitek base underneath that carries WMDs. And even surrounding the capital city in EW, there's still the Magitek, the Cerulean pipelines, and their own train systems you fight through that match their aesthetic. Do you just go "ew a city" and lose your mind?
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>>736620496
>what is their endgame with this franchise
They can make more money from the ERPers. It's that simple. The people who actively engage in the content eventually unsubscribe due to being bored. While the ERPers and VRchatters will stay subbed regardless of the content
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>>736621336
>But most of the movie takes place in a replication of 1999 Earth so that's a modern setting.
So couldn't we then call where we currently are in the story of XIV a modern setting seeing as we have been spending a good majority of our time in highly advanced places like Garlemald, Solution 9 and the fucking moon?
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>>736621276
>Hi I'm just going to ignore your entire argument and point to respond with a 'gotcha!'
See shit like this is why nobody wants to 'seriously engage' with your argument and just mocks you people.
>>736621440
It really just comes across like these people don't play or just fucking skipped all the story. I've said it before, but I think they're coming in from other MMOs that ARE just western high fantasy 24/7 and getting upset this other setting isn't identical to what they came from.
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>>736621120
Yeah everyone knows Final Fantasy is supposed to look like the Witcher with everyone rolling around in mudcore peasant shit, and you're a hylic if you say otherwise.
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>>736621532
>Hi I'm just going to ignore your entire argument and point to respond with a 'gotcha!'
You're trying to pretend the modernslop is confined to Solution 9 but in fact it's not. Not at all. The majority of the modernslop has come from Eorzea. From seasonal events, the Gold Saucer, and from PVP (hosted by the Grand Companies). Alexandrians at least dress like they're in Cyberpunk most of the time.

>>736621512
It basically is now, yeah. That's what people are complaining about. We've gone from dirt farmers and mass illiteracy to a setting where people tune into a radio show hosted from the moon while they order takeout in uniqlo t-shirts.
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>>736620496
XIV players only want to play XIV. They treat the NPCs like a parasocial relationship. Remember how Undertale fans on tumblr were? That's XIV players.
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>>736621161
You're literally in an alternate reality shard, anon. This isn't even the first one of those, it's really the exact same thing and it's not even an uncommon trope for this to happen. Did you have a conniption about Jack in SoP listening to his MP3 player or are you just butthurt about FF14 in particular?
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>>736621676
funny thing is caring enough about immersion in a form of entertainment is hylic as well
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>>736621834
>You're literally in an alternate reality shard, anon.
I am actually not in an alternate reality shard when I go to the Gold Saucer, or when I go to Ul'dah for Little Ladies' Day.
>Did you have a conniption about Jack in SoP listening to his MP3 player
No because the entire point of SoP is that Jack and friends are extradimensional visitors who wear modernslop. That's a central part of the story. You really, really do not get the fucking point.
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>>736621313
I wonder if they have actual air conditioning machinery or do they regularly hire people to cast ice and wind spells to keep the place fresh
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>>736621740
>We've gone from dirt farmers and mass illiteracy to a setting where people tune into a radio show hosted from the moon while they order takeout in uniqlo t-shirts.
I just don't see what the big deal is with it going in that direction. Final Fantasy has always been this blend of medieval and sci/fi modern elements and did an admirable job resisting leaning into the more contemporary Nomura stylings until now. What's wrong with them finally dipping their toes in it?
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>>736604275
At this point they've added more shit to the cash shop than to the actual game this xpac. God I hope this trash goes eos soon.
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I can ride around in the Fenrir bike from 7AC, the dumb car from FF14, and your mom on Friday night, I guess I break all your immersion.
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>>736621935
probably something involving ice crystals and electric fans
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>>736621740
>people
(1) shitposter
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OH NO NO NO NO FSHKEKIES THEY PUT OUR KEKBUCKET IN THE MOGTOME
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>>736621153
>Aaaah they added a CAR I'm going insane, why aren't civilians using fucking mech walkers to get around!?
Actually your retardation reminded me of a really fun game that had both cars and mecha walkers.
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>>736621921
>really do not get the fucking point.
Because your point is fucking arbitrary and retarded, it's autistic nitpicking. Even the idea that S9 isn't supposed to be futuristic yet modern instead is retarded. The clothing looks straight out of PSO.
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>>736621963
Because XIV already had an established aesthetic that the people playing it liked. And then it abandoned that to appeal to a different demographic.
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>>736621864
I mean hylic is supposed to indicate someone is a soulless materials vs. someone who is a souled spiritualist vs. someone who is actually divine and spiritual, so him obsessing over fucking video games instead of honing his vril or whatever is yeah very hylic of him.
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>>736622101
You're pretty assmad about getting raped by actual screenshots of a game you pretended to play, huh?
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>>736622080
It's not arbitrary at all, you just don't get the point no matter how many times it's explained to you. Maybe because you want the complaint to be something completely different so you actually have an argument and you're angry that isn't happening.
>Even the idea that S9 isn't supposed to be futuristic yet modern instead is retarded.
Is there a reason I say 'Ul'dah' and you see 'Solution 9'?
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So-called Garlemald Roleplayers when they have a bitchfit anal meltdown dirarhea rodeo after seeing a car or motorcycle from the mogstation even though Garlemald canonically has teslas and you can see for yourself on the map.
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>>736621740
>You're trying to pretend the modernslop is confined to Solution 9
I'm pointing out that anon's argument that the setting was 'typical fantasy hardline' (aka modern western fantasy psuedo high middle ages) is false. Everything else is about justifying WHY S9 can exist, while acknowledging that you can personally dislike the designs. Going "well you can buy that gear in the golden saucer!" when the GS is literally a fucking gambling mini-game hub exclusively for the enjoyment of the players and not a serious lore location you're supposed to worry about is purposefully ignoring what I'm trying to argue and the context in which the setting is built. If you think they should have multiple player mini-game hubs instead of one that's a different argument entirely.
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>>736621776
Are you actually trying to shit on anons unequivocally loving their 2D waifu above all else in this world? on this website of all places? Something integral to the site and a shared point of commonality for the last 20+ years? Are you a fucking silly person?
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bros...my immersion...how could they do this to me...
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bros...my vagueness...how could they do this to me...
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At this rate the /vg/ threads are gonna be the least mentally option and that's saying a lot
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>>736622092
>And then it abandoned that to appeal to a different demographic.
I think that's a little hyperbolic, especially when each expansion has it's own look and feel to separate it from one another. ARR gear looks vastly different to HW gear which looks different from SB gear and so on. You could say the recent styles clash more harshly compared to older gear which I would agree with, but largely the playerbase is receptive to it because they fall into the category of nostalgia bait, basic modern clothing which can be customized, or some random obviously ethnic inspired gear. Also, it's not like those older pieces are gone from the game. You can still equip them and dress how you want.
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>>736622143
Learn the meaning of words you use.
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retardation tends to increase as Fanfest approaches
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Why do I need to use a boat to travel across the sea when we built a faster than light spaceship that can travel to the edge of the universe?
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i want to have sex with sphene
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>>736622215
>"i don't like that they gave them teslas instead of garlemald style cars"
>"HEHEHE... well you see dumpy... you must not have looked at the zone map because... *smirk* they in fact gave them teslas canonically... *pushes glasses up* looks like you don't know the setting huh? hehe..."
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>>736622460
1: the spaceship doesn't belong to you
2: its currently stuck in place due to quantum entanglements
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>>736622384
NOOO it has to fall in line with generic pissant western fantasy
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>>736621740
>We've gone from dirt farmers and mass illiteracy
Not once are the people of Eorzea depicted as peasant mudcore dirt farmers who can't read, holy shit. Did you even play the base game?
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>>736622213
>ul'dah
>modern aesthetics
???????????????????????
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>>736622524
1. There are other spaceships now, little contentlet.
2. The Ragnarok only has a copy permanently in place in Ultima Thule, the real thing can still move around.
3. The technology is actually just a projection of an aetherial stream to cast Teleport along, which can be applied to any basic ship.
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>>736622608
The ala mh*gans are pretty shitter tier honestly
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>>736622250
Waifuism isn't parasocial unless youre some SEAnigger who cries when someone says anything about his waifu. Not what I'm referring to either
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I think using the word 'slop' unironically should be an autoban at this point. It's the new soi.
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>>736622631
You didn't do Little Ladies' Day?

>>736622608
Actually they are, you dumb fucking secondary. Hang on, I'll get a Koji quote for you.
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>>736622524
>1: the spaceship doesn't belong to you
I'm the WOL I can do whatever I want and no one can stop me?

>2: its currently stuck in place due to quantum entanglements
Why dont they just fix it? They built a ship that can break the laws of physics but they cant fix it?
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>>736622652
why would the lopporits give me free use of their hyperhopper when they have their own mission? especially when i'm not saving the world
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>>736622092
>Because XIV already had an established aesthetic
*Eorzea had an established aesthetic and anon is triggered that both Garlemald and other shards don't look the same.
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>>736622676
Parasocial is a normalfag term and thus has little meaning and merit
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>>736622608
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has lazyprocrastinator done a sphene animation yet?
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>>736622704
>I'll get a Koji quote
You do know Koji isn't the director or writer for the game, nor is he the guy in charge of the setting itself?
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Lookin like all I missed was some rapid schizo posting
Any actual news?
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>>736622704
You do realize the rewards for seasonal events are for the players' enjoyment and are NOT meant to be serious lorebuilding for the setting?
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>>736622791
Koji has been on the worldbuilding team since the original Project Rapture began in 2007 you fucking clown.
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>>736622704
>You didn't do Little Ladies' Day?
I did not actually but I don't see the problem other than the outfits being ugly and gaudy. It's a dumb seasonal event, you're thinking too hard about this. It's not like the Garlean Empire couldn't make shirts like that with their level of technology.
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>>736622754
No, normalfags misuse the term, but if you can parse it being used correctly then it's not an issue.
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>>736622516
>instead of garlemald style cars
What is a 'garlemald style car'? Is this just your equivalent of bitching that a civilian Nisan Altima doesn't look like an armored APC?
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>>736622804
i do kinda agree, that outfit is more cocolicore than vizzercore

datamined red 13 pet and others are fanfest goodies is all
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>>736622608
>As I (think I may have) mentioned in a past post, literacy rates in Eorzea are quite low. The only people who can read/write are usually the educated writing for the educated.
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>>736622250
>>736622754
He's a /pol/ tourist, senpai, of course he's whining about 4chan culture.
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>>736622878
>What is a 'garlemald style car'?
Well this is a Garlemald style zeppelin, so extrapolate that design philosophy to cars.
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>>736622714
>I'm the WOL I can do whatever I want and no one can stop me?
literally anyone with an IQ over 100 can bamboozle the WOL
case in point: you literally allowed a big titty redhead goddess kill herself along with her entire crew for NO FUCKING REASON. My man you went to Eorzea to work for peanuts as long as you get to throw hands with people
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>>736622460
Why does FFVIII have boats and cars and motocycles when Squall can also get the Ragnarok or fly Balamb around?
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>>736622958
>Well this is a MILITARY WEAPON so the civilian's shitbox car should look the same
Are you stupid?
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>>736622958
German cars don't look like tiger tanks, dumb bitch.
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I remember getting into an argument with some other retard like a decade ago about t-shirts and found some evidence of t-shirt like garments going back 600 years.
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>>736623097
FFXI has t-shirts in it
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>>736623097
anyone who comes in here to stir shit deserves the autistic rage they get from people disagreeing with them

and they'll be back next thread, because they think people calling them retarded is socializing. lol
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>>736622959
Too be fair the WoL is under no obligation to save anyone or change their mind or prevent their actions. The game makes it clear you are always a mercenary first and foremost
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>>736622726
They don't need to. You could just apply the same technology to the Vesper Bay ferries and move people and goods instantly.
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>>736623174
Any high middle ages/reinnasance/early modern setting (which is what Eorzea is) should have t-shirts, is what my research showed me.
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>>736623232
We are on a website explicitly for autistic otaku wizards after all
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>>736623257
Graphic t-shirts with the red uniqlo brand tag?
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>>736623291
yes, but even us autists know when to quit. these are Advanced Autists. they have all the 'passion' of an auteur but also a moral mandate that they are correct in everything
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what makes xiv avatarfags the absolute worst?
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>>736622460
that ship ate through the biggest aether crystal we've had for just one trip. might as well turn Alexander on to ask it to generate nude pictures of y'shtola.
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>>736623248
remember when we needed the mothercrystal to power the ship to ultima thule?

>>736623369
those are reaction images :)
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>>736623018
>>736623076
This is a disingenuous argument regarding what he's saying, but even if I engage with it genuinely then why would you be happy with them intentionally going the more boring, less unique route of just having normal cars? It would be way cooler if they drove around in rad magitek cars that look like weird tanks. Part of the big complaint with the aesthetic that's always ignored is that IT'S FUCKING BORING. The unique edge of Garlemald's designs was part of what made it cool. Just shafting that to have "normal" technology is lame. It'd be just as lame as Allag having people walking around in modern clothes, even if that would be totally possible in their technology level, because the weird Allag outfits with the swirling metal accessories and plate armor on robes are cool and unique.

That's the crux of the argument and why these discussions are always so stupid. It's a bunch of people defending designs that are kind of lazy, boring, and uninteresting because
>um it's technically possible and this other game did lazy things like that too so it's fine
The argument has never been about that, it's just about people not liking the direction they took some of the visual design principles compared to how it was earlier.
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This is supposed to be 13th century mideival Europe why is there a fucking monitor and wrestling
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>>736623294
Graphics maybe not, but sewing pictures of animals, people, and plants onto clothing has been a thing forever. Issue is just how the picture isn't textured like it should be if it's dyed string instead of a plastic decal burned on. And anyway, bitching about seasonal rewards because you think they're actually lorebuilding and not just for the players is really autistic.
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>>736623439
>Why aren't different continents and shards just like Eorzea?
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>>736623402
>remember when we needed the mothercrystal to power the ship to ultima thule?
Yeah but that was an unimaginable distance. You don't need the same for the distance the hyperhoppers travel. Phaenna and Oizys were set up as relay points for that purpose.
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Reeks of desperation from SE.
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>>736623498
we only need a small nuclear explosion to get this boat to limsa, not all of them
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>>736604682
>>736605221
When can we make our characters look like her? I love her so much bros.(I'm the type that doesn't self insert and just make my waifu the protagonist so I can fanboy. I'm also playing this like a single player RPG and hardly consider party members more than NPCs.)
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>>736623532
yea yea
everything they do since DT released is pure desperation
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>>736623545
Wait until you learn how combustion engines work.
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>>736609782
This makes me so hype just by looking at it!
Nothing matches the soul of 1.0 and ARR art....
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>>736623602
vampires and holy water
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I hate all of the cutscenes whew the characters are happy or relaxing. They’re supposed to be wallowing in the piss and shit and filth and desperate for another day. This isn’t fantasy
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>>736623369
These guys are here because nobody on vg humors them, imagine being a vg reject.
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>>736623431
You don't seem to understand that the argument of whether it's okay for them to have mundane cars or scifi places like S9 (and it is okay) isn't the same as arguing the designs are good. I think your argument is stupid, because mundane vehicles shouldn't look like military weapons. I think any argument that Garlemald shouldn't have cars is also stupid. I can agree with an argument that the designs are boring, which is fine. Just like I can agree with someone saying they wish S9 was a little weirder like Zanarkand was. But if we're at the level where we can say "This fits the setting but I wish it had been more inventive" instead of entertaining the idiots who hate modern and scifi tech in FF of all things, we've also recognized that going on long unhinged rants and screaming fits calling everything 'slop' is incredibly immature and not conductive to actually productively discussing the setting's aesthetics. The level of passion and autism and hostility, as well as the sheer obsession that an aesthetic isn't something you like, makes it impossible to treat most of the complainer as mature and reasonable people.
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>>736623545
It's just Teleport magic.
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>>736623431
>why would you be happy with them intentionally going the more boring, less unique route of just having normal cars?
Because that's not what they are doing you disingenuous fuck. Neither the Regalia nor the Air Wheeler mounts in XIV are cars that you can purchase from a dealership. Sure, they may more strongly resemble a modern car, but they are ultimately a final fantasy take on a car. The same idea applies to the glams, hairstyles, emotes and setting. They are never going to just copy and paste New York City into XIV, it will be a fantasy approximation of it like Insomnia or something from a well known FF title. If you find that direction boring, then I don't know what the fuck you're doing playing a Final Fantasy game. The blending of modern and medieval has always been a running component of the franchise.
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>>736623768
that transports an entire boat, and the people on board

the same reason we don't use nuclear reactors for cars anon
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y'all still playing this lol!
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>>736623820
Not going to suffer generic shit like wow or toddler tier nonsense like swtor/kotor
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>>736623785
The Regalia and every other car in XV is literally just a real world car. And Insomnia is just New York and Tokyo mashed together.
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>>736604275
>you dress your fantasy race in modern clothes
>i dress my human in fantasy clothes
we are not the same o algo
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>>736623815
So? You only need a few crystals.
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>>736607804
Rikku in skin tight diving suit... What if she needs to pee? Will she just let it out in her suit? Would be funny haha



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