https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/How is your main doing after the Strive 2.0 patch?If you're not returning to Guilty Gear, what else are you playing?
>>736605256>If you're not returning to Guilty Gear, what else are you playing?CotW.
>>736605256I’m just playing guilty gear. Strive has too much weird and nasty shit in it for me. If they remove all that I might try it again.
>>736605256>2.0 patch notes for entire roster can be summarized as "character lost ability to combo off X/Y move and there is no compensation">damage is still retarded as fuck lol doing 3 hit "combo" for 40% of hp strive so hype dawg.
Still playing Rising.
>>736605256UNI
>>736605256>picWhy is every single character depicted exudes so much coolness and sexiness? Fighting games are so cool it's insane.
anyone ever play mace the dark age
>>736605256waiting for tokonI would try strive but its 6 years too late
>>736605256STRIVE 2.0UNIRONICALLY BACK TO BASICS EDITION
https://youtu.be/3enowuqmKLY?si=82QjoyTBOumJu4gahttps://youtu.be/dwbpYMe5qaE?si=wQy54Vbe4-iaIRKkhttps://youtu.be/n8OEPh0wt3k?si=NmJMFS_qUkis8CJchttps://youtu.be/zgA57JCfoAU?si=eYqq_0At8JxyXUbxhttps://youtu.be/PJ_uYAV1mUY?si=AysmmSXCAoZjA113
See I'm trying to plat Ken in 3rd strike, it's a bit hard to do his hit confirms from 2MP and f5MP. although he still has some easy ones like target combo and 2lk2lk
>heres your deluxe edition version bonus bro some cp
>>736606903Blazblue's artbooks and galleries are fucking beasts and we will never get something similar ever in these days.
>>736606903SHE'S THOUSANDS OF TIMELOOPS YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK
>>736605256>Winter Mantis isn't a command grab anymore>2K lost its low profileI never even played Strive and I'm a bit mortified. Anyways, been trying to fit in a bit of Uni 2 every day for a week after I had a lot of fun in a session with friends. I think I'm on day 4 or 5 out of 7. Anyone using a leverless, what button do you have D mapped to? I've been going D-A-B-C all on the bottom row of my Haute and I wanna get used to using chain shift offensively and not as a bit of refund after using a C Special or Augment.
>>736605256>TestamentAppalled at these changes, I have no fucking idea what they're doingThey took a 2-Step character and made them a 3-Step characterThe only way you can guarentee 2 Stains is if you forego a mixup after crow HKD, and do something like OTG Grave Reaper into Crow, and this won't even be plus in itself anymoreYou lose your crow pressure sequences, which already weren't guarenteed because they had gapsYou lose cS>2S>2H>Crow combos which used to setup really good mixupsNostrovia is now a dogshit ender/wallbreak because of the extended Tension Penalty, and the crow changes also mean you can't do alternative routes like Crow > Calamity-One >DizzyHealthy nerfs to some dumb stuff like sweep or HKD S SwordThe startup nerf to H Michael Sword kinda sucks since you have to route into Ice Spike from cS, but it might auto-time it in other routesFish, not sure about it being +0 on blockThe extra fish setups might be huge, charged 6H into Fish is -2 and sets up some RPS, but now if you can put the fish behind them and it bites, they can't do shit>VenomMight pick him up fully to replace Testament The ball angles changes might be bigger than people think, when I played him I kept running into people doing double jumps or superjump air dash over the balls and I couldn't find a way to cover that, and they also open up new formationsQV Buff is pretty big and you can probably loop pressure or steal turns with stuff like 5K Ball hit > Charged QV Stinger nerfs are good because that shit wasn't funOverall very curious to see how it all fits together, there's a lot of good changes to system mechanics/characters, I'm glad HC is dead, but I am so fucking pissed about Testament
>>736606237She is such a random pick, but I don't mind at all. I would rather have Peni over Miles.
>>736606903never fails to get a laugh out of me when someone gets warned that buying and downloading bbcf, puts cp on their ssd too.
>>736607843I am non-plussed on venom changes, its like okay but nothing stands out. The QV change is nice but I don't think it'll help out his pressure or mix that much
How the fuck did ArcSys out of all manage to do the full 360 degree turn while Tekken 8 yet again lied to every one?I have never been this hyped up for -Strive-, it's like we got new a Guilty Gear game. What the fuck is happening in the Fighting Game Community?!
G-guys ingrid...kenshiro...s-stop talking about strive...
>>736607745The 2K nerf is universal and Axl's 2K was incredibly good being 5f, fast and far reaching, I think it's a healthy changeWinter Mantis is a weird ass change, but I think because you can't PRC throws anymore it would have become an incredibly bad moveIt also might be way better in combos with the recovery>Anyways, been trying to fit in a bit of Uni 2 every day for a week after I had a lot of fun in a session with friends. I think I'm on day 4 or 5 out of 7. Anyone using a leverless, what button do you have D mapped to? I've been going D-A-B-C all on the bottom row of my Haute and I wanna get used to using chain shift offensively and not as a bit of refund after using a C Special or Augment.If I remember correctly, do A/C/D/A+D(?) on the top row, B/B+C/nothing(?)/nothing(?) on the bottom row, and A+B on the low thumb button for dashes (same button I use for dash macro in Strive)Not super on point for macros, but the ABC layout feels ok to me even when trying to get gems out with Vatista>>736608340The big thing is his only nerfs are to Stinger and indirectly Dark Angel, and lots of characters got bigger nerfs, or indirect nerfs through system mechanics, so he is still up relative to the castSomething like light charge QV(K)>5P is going to be more of an RPS in favor of him, and full charge QV(K)>5K IAD might be an uncontestable reset at certain ranges?Full charge also gives him a rebound, so you might get some neat stuff like Full QV(K)>5K(ball)>S Set>5K(rebound ball)>6H(S ball)>Light QVHe's not going to be drastically better or top tier, but he definitely looks more interesting and I'm glad they want to move him away from spamming Stinger
>>736608998I think we should talk about DaemonBride AdditionalGain that game is sick as hell
>>736608998Oh shit yeah Krauser is in two weeks. I'll play him after grinding ranked with Jam.
>>736607967Funny you say she's a "random" pick, she shoots random projectiles like Faust.
>>736609420For real? Also I wish Nightcrawler made it over Magik. Let Logan have his bro Kurt.
Guys have you heard of fighting games?
>>736607745Genuinely who cares about Axl? From day one he's been crippled by the system mechanics and all the patches ever did was fuck with his combo options instead of giving him a real gameplan.
>>736605256Why is Amaterasu on the men's side?
>>736610331Man's best friend.
>>736606903Who's the designated fanservice flatty for GG?>>736608205It's a bit less egregious than new melty kids realize what Len's purpose is which is 100% more explicit than what Blazblue has ever done but still funny.
whens patch out
>>736610425Tomorrow
>>736605256Only pedophiles play this
Why does it feel like no one cares about jam coming out
>>736610242NTA but me, someone who dropped Strive during after the beta when Axl's new tools were kinda neat but hated how his chains didn't facilitate air combos anymore.
>>736610417>Who's the designated fanservice flatty for GG?May
>>736610585because they nerfed her sex appeal and made her a foodie
>>736610585Last thread's OP was Jam
>>736610585Because the balance patch was more hype than her lol.
>>736610625Makes sense but not goth loli enough
>heard jam is fat now>holy fuark kino i must check it out>she just has a fridge like waist and no cute muffin top chubby bellySigh...
>>736610639>a foodieI mean she always cooked but now she's got the whimsical animal companion.She's still a gold digger and homewrecker given her win screen against Nago compared to Ky.
>>736610589Give it up, Strive Axl will never be anything more than a half baked, low tier button zoner.
How did Jam manage to gain 30 pounds and age four decades in three weeks time? This game practically takes place almost immediately after Rev 2.
>>736610770yeah but shes less of a ditzy slut and leans more on the chinese milf feels due to her makeup and average waist size
>>736610858>give it upI mean, I already did. The whirlwind wasn't nearly cool enough for me to bother years later.
>>736610770Gold digger indeed.
>>736606028I have combo fighter fatigue
>>736610862The same way Chipp managed to double his muscle mass
>>736610770Why is she doing that face? Thats so un-Jam like
>>736611003I have combo fighter deficiency
>>736611078She's the one chinese restaurant that's marking up prices for non-pretty boy customers.>>736611043Recovered crack addicts working out to fight the temptation is realistic enough I guess.
>>736611078How about this one
>>736611043Chipp has always been buff, so you can blame that on the game's artstyle. Arcsys deliberately turned a girl in the prime of her life into an overweight hag.
>>736610585because people wanted HOS and arc has done everything in their power to not include him from xrd till now in strive. They even got a filthy GUEST CHARACTER first whose theme will expire when the fuck ever
>>736608840Arcsys genuinely is not as retarded as bandai namco.(see dbfz after bandai namco took over balancing) If Tekken 8 had patch notes that looked like this you'd see the biggest praise since the game released but at the same time the biggest whining ever seen since 8 never got a real big nerf patch.
>>736611209Thats jam when she sees bwc (canon)
>>736611043Nearly every male cast starting from Xrd gained muscle mass.
>>736610770
>>736611146That's so lame
Where the nerfs enough to stop Potemkin from being retarded? I like playing grapplers, but when they are busted they are not fun. I like the struggle
>>736611269Whats that? Some move that was 31 plus on block (lol) get gutted?
>>736611359Post some Mai combos then.
>>736611003in sf6 i play sagat and just spam tiger knees and its been working out for me so far. no combo brain empty
>>736611446if it were a combo fighter you would spam tiger knee and just dial a combo when you hit confirm to do half their health in damage
>>7366114355lp 5lp 5lp 214lp
>>736605256Recognized everyone in this image but GG Johnny without his hat was throwing me in a loop there for a minute.
>>736611386PRC now adds scaling to upcoming hits, I think someone mathed it out to be 40%, so Hammerfall PRC already got nerfed, but Hammerfall is also vulnerable to lows nowThrows can't be PRC'd on whiff anymoreThen he also has a bunch of individual nerfs, and his only buff is to forward move speedHe's probably back to being mid tier>>736611406The second hit of I-No's reversal super is now punishable at -17Which isn't a really big change since there was a huge gap that left her in counterhit anywayIf you want something truly retarded, Testament's point blank crow went from +1 to -12 because ????
>>736611639Sounds pretty dull
>>736611842i have no idea who this guy is but i always laugh at his crashouts
>>736611996>>736611842Fucking grown ass men rage quitting like children
>>736611842deserved for such a obvious trap
>>736611842>>736611996New lolcow?
>>736611810Almost as dull as replying to your own post ;^)
I'm a retard still playing tekken 8if I only play braindead characters like clive or claudio how hard will kunimitsu be to pick up? or should I not even bother and just wait for bob>just learn multiplelike I said, I'm a retard and any more than 2 chars fucks with my brain
>>736612308is tekken 8 fun if you just wanna go on ranked and go full party masher clown mode?
Jam should express disappointment in her lines with Bridget
tier list (current patch, ordered) from fuudo, bonchan and sahara for sf6
>>736612305So no webm?
>>736612374She still gonna say would though. She's still that desperate.
>>736612360Most complaints about T8 are from vets. If you are low ranked (let's just say tekken king or below) or new, the clown fiesta affects you less. You still see the shit with everyone having full wall carry 90 damage combos but you just kinda accept it. Pros basically clutch pearls though
>>736612420alex is only that low due to his marriage
>>736612420You faggots told me there were nerfs. The metagame is exactly the same
https://youtu.be/1X7EJSuUZZM?is=La1-28ASEfWZ-vEx
>>736612420>axel this lowfor competitive pros this might be the case, but for online warriors his stanced attacks into a 50/50 strike or power bomb set up will easily get you to ultimate master. he is op! also, no character has a better drive rush check, easy anti air, neutral skip into plus frames like Axel. no to mention he drains your drive gauge like a mofo if you dare block him.
>>736605256I honestly might stop playing Strive because of the Asuka changes, they seem really unfun and he was the whole draw of the game to me. Might just go back to +R or something, I like the convenience of playing a modern game, but it still needs to actually be fun. I hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.
>>736612420>>736612807>>736613345I've heard they tier based also on player results, so that's why Alex is absolute bottom tier>>736613051There basically were no nerfs for 90% of the cast (naturally Manon got nerfed)JP for example got some weak ass nerfs, and was given cancels into Portal Spike from 2MK/5MPThe patch really makes no fucking sense, I play Aki and Dhalsim, neither of them got any fixes to their gameplay/issues, and instead they got random ass combo improvements they didn't really need
>>736613465>I play Aki and Dhalsima poker enjoyer huh
>>736610713How do you get the full version of this
>>736613527I just really love getting jumped on and dying to random DIs in midscreen
I was picking fighting games up again after being dragged into hero shooters by my friends. I fucking hate hero shooters by the way I've never gotten as angry in my life as watching my team in hero shooters.I was picking up UNI, SF6 and MBTL again but how is Strive 2.0? I dropped the game around a while after Baiken released just because I was so sick of how sluggish the game felt and how ridiculous the damage was
I kinda wish they just kept Alex the way he was instead of of making him a completely different kind of character because they needed him to fit into modern controls. He’s really fun in 3rd strike but I dunno if I’ll buy him in sf6.
>>736613945The damage is down from what I see but it looks like they dulled a lot of the cast down in terms of tools too. I’ll have to try it personally first though. But yeah I feel the same way about team games with mobas, League was so dogshit.
>>736613945If you found it sluggish then you still will, the damage is lower now and will be lowered again in this patch, but it still has high damage overall. The new patch is nerfs across the board.
>>736613945>how is Strive 2.0It releases tomorrow, we don't know yet for sure but it's more nerfsSeason 4 had already nerfed damage and 2.0 will nerf it more, and characters have less conversions from pokes
>>736613945strive basically has stayed the same for years and only this new patch has actually changed things, minimally at least
>>736613672The UNICLR preorder bonuses haven't been digitally uploaded, unlike the previous games' bonus art. There's also 2 missing from the latter.
>>736614372>>736614168>>736614112>>736614082Oh I thought the patch was out already. I missed the date literally being at the top of the patch note page like a retard I'll check it out tomorrow then
>>736612420>Elena higher than Kim and Akiwhat in tarnation
>>736614878her nakedness give elena a edge over the others
>>736611842playing ryu just turns you into a retard. my friend used to play other characters and then he got it in his head to play ryu. he turned retarded and would do retarded stuff like that DI and eventually quit. Now I am sad.
I want to play Mai in SF6 because of sex but man my grappler brain doesn't know how to approach with her
>>736615171Throw the fan and walk behind it?
>>736615171give em the old stand n wiggle then press HP or MP when they throw an attack out.
>>736611796>RC now adds scaling to upcoming hits, I think someone mathed it out to be 40%, so Hammerfall PRC already got nerfed, but Hammerfall is also vulnerable to lows now>Throws can't be PRC'd on whiff anymore>Then he also has a bunch of individual nerfs, and his only buff is to forward move speed>He's probably back to being mid tierGood, grapplers and zoners should never be at the top or bottom, but near the middle. I think that's when a fighting game is the most healthy
I wish hammerfall break would be buffed to old game speed
I think part of why Pot has always been so retardedly busted in strive is that everyone else is also sluggish so he isn’t at much of a disadvantage for having slow walkspeed, and he already also has movement options like hammerfall and so on.
>>736616517also many of those players dont play against pot mains much
>>736616517>can't IAD in >running is molasses>Pot can also use the RC mechanics just like anyone else to get in quickI won so many games with hammerfall RC pot buster because of how insanely fast it is if you don't look for it
>>736612420What happened to Sagat? I remember people were complaining how bad and hard to use he was when he launched.
>>736616517good thing they got rid of long ranged pokes and overheads leading to heavy damage
>>736616936I can’t even imagine how bad they’d mess up Zappa now. Coolest fighting game character ever.
Also, wtf happened to the Guilty Gear tag on pixiv? It's like I'm scrolling through deviantart now, for a game so "anti-gooner" the stuff surrounding it seems to just be getting grosser
>>736616936METAL AF
>>736617017Is Zappa the only one left from XX aside from Kliff and Order Sol now?
>>736617119Despite claiming to hate sexualization, the group that strive attracts are the biggest degenerates possible
>>736617119Too scared to look, what's actually going on? Is it just low quality and lewd?
>>736617147Them and Justice
>>736617119Lemme guess, more AI?
>>736617119The crime is being "openly" degenerate.We all know the prudes who cry the most about this stuff are the biggest degenerates when no one is looking.
>>736616517Pot was getting nothing but buffs to the point of retardation, and they all targeted his weak areasAt one point he was impossible to zone. Slidehead had armor and worked against long range strikes, Hammerfall had armor, Hammerfall Break had armor. And he could Flick on reaction to projectiles. The peak of retardation was Season 4, where they gave him Blue WA which let him start strike/throw on block, and the damage nerfs meant he would always get 50 meter + burst per roundAlso Hammerfall PRC Pot Buster refunds itself, while dealing tons of damage and giving oki
>>736617119There's like 3 different guilty gear tags on pixiv and the one I just looked at seems no different than the ones on street fighter and Tekken with the usual decent art, AI garbage and footfaggotry that infests those two as well.
>>736617827ギルティギア
I have started a personal policy of never playing any fighting game while its still being updated. Im sick and tired of falling in love with a character or a cool move only for the thing I like the most to be targeted with an endless ocean of nerfs every patch. Its fucking absurd and stupid and has driven me away from any new game in the genre, the devs just cant seem to leave shit alone and constantly need to ruin my fun to make the game more "balanced".
>>736605256>favorite thing about fighting games is doing fun and flashy combos>mfw these patch notesI am afraid.
>>736618095Melty BloodGOD
>>736614878apparently she has good match ups vs ed and sagat the 2 best characters in the game
>>736618095You missed the train of nearly 2 years of constant buffs because now the players asked for nerfs and the devs said they'd get right on it.
>>736618102>favorite thing about fighting games is doing fun and flashy combosthen why are you playing Strive in the first place?
>>736618095bro we have had nothing but buffs in every single game this entire generation
>>736618102>combos>Strive
>>736617119Gross fanart is Guilty Gear culture.
Combos are the gayest thing ever. It's like a tiktok dance in fighting game form.
>>736618404this is just creative
>>736618487That one's a bit creative, but the more iconic one is both disgusting and unimaginative.
>>736618473So what fighting game to do you play?
>>736618473samurai shodown 5 special
>>736618563Wresting with your Mom on your Bed
>>736618473I quit the game after we do our round start moves
>>736618619So you just goon instead like a secondary or?
>>736618239intermesting. I haven't played much since Sagat came out but I felt strongly that Kimberly got rocked by him so I guess that does make sense if he turned out to be really good and elena beats him.
>>736605256Did they make Axl playable again? I only play as Axl low
>>736618095I always started with older games so I’m more used to devs not coming in and messing things up later
>>736618404>>736618557Man it's always Dizzy.
>>736618473Never unseeing this. Thanks douchebag.
>>736618095What if the game gets three years of updates and then it stopped and then suddenly 5 years later it gets an update again.
rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated
>>736619075Fastest DOA fighting game of all time
>>736619075>Sennamy fucking GOD I hope the devs all die
>>736617950Yeah that's the tag I was talking about. If it was just constant dizzy shitting dick nipples of old I'd understand but it's mostly just the usual run of the mill ai slop most tags are infested with, a few outlandish images, the usual fagshit the GG tag always was swarmed with, and then the decent art.
>>736619075They put Senna in of all fucking characters? Why did they make her and Akali so ugly in 2xko anyways
>>736619075tokon will be the final nail for this game's grave
>>736619075Can't wait when Arcsys buries this shit once and for all.
>>736618687Axl is already solid in S4, ironically he's getting some very minor nerfs in 2.0
>>736619075......
>>736619713>>736619913I'm positive that Tokon's announcement is what made Riot release the damn thing, otherwise it would still be in development for another year or two.
>>736605256>still no new DarkstalkersI will continue to not care about modern fighting games
>GGS 2.0 looks decent>Tokon's recent changes look niceASW woke up?
>>736616857At release, a bunch of people were trying to play fireball Sagat which doesn't really work (fireball zoning isn't very good in SF6 because of Parry)Also I think people overestimated how hard Tiger Knee is to make plus, it's really hard to fuck up and get punished for this move
>>736619913Based grubba
>>736620123Now all that remain is granblue.
>>736620514>GranblueGranblue was abandoned by ASW. It's in Cygames' hands.Good luck.
>>736620596Ah how could I forgot, it's just like DBFZ with Bamco.
>>736620123Yup>>736620514>game that arcsys might not even be balancing anymore after the lead goes to tokonAfter dbfz I wouldn't count on it man. Who knows what retarded shit cygames has in store with that new mechanic as well.
>>736620596Season 2 was developed by ASW and there's nothing so far suggesting that Id isn't being done by them.
>Arcsys works with Cygames to develop GBF Versus>Arcsys immediately goes to shit long before the game is even released>six years later>Arcsys and Cygames finally part ways>not even a year later and Arcsys already redeems themselvesGachaslop is ALWAYS the problem
>>736618557I still remember the first time i fapped to this
>>736618557We need shitting dick nipples for the Strive generation
>>736620637not really because proper support for dbfz ended earlier than it was supposed after 2 years and a half while gbvs ends after 6+ years of support with arcsys staying with it from beginning to end
>>736605256>what else are you playing?Nothing because this genre is trash
Anyone up for some Fightcade/Blazblue/SF4?
>>736620898Actually the problem start was bbtag, dbfz and to a degree mori. Bbtag and dbfz basically told arcsys they have zero reason to give a shit about the old players or balance when they both did so well and gave arcsys a new audience at least 10 times bigger than the GG and BB audience and mori himself was a guy that "pushed the balance doesn't matter and you should just try to get as many people to play as possible no matter what" way at arcsys.
>>736621689I dont mind bb
>>736621706God I loved BBTAG's tag system. That shit was cancerous as fuck but super fun
>>736621689I can play blazjew
I can't believe Jiyuna is shilling BB on 4chan so much recently
Bought BB recently because I believe this is literally peak character design... Is she hard to learn? She seems kinda gimmicky.
>Rivals of Aether 2 added itemsCasualGAWDS keep winning! still not buying the game
>>736623047do casuals even like itemswhen me and my friend play smash we just do All vs All with no items and have fun
>>736622889Steins take some getting used to but her basic combo structure and set ups are pretty easy to learn. Learning how to convert off hits when steins are already out is probably the hardest thing to learn just because you need to adapt your combos to account for that.
>>736605256Strive 2.0 is amazing. They need to teach Tekcucks how to do a proper Back to Basics patch. I'm not even a Strivefag and I'm excited for 2.0 mainly I was thinking about giving the game another chance if 2.0 changes were good and ASW blew my expectations out the water. Now im considering Tokon. I already have Magik. Just need another favorite
>>736612420Mai is S-Tier because she makes my dick hard. Always.
>>736623306It's crazy how good they made her look in SF6 of all games.
Oscar, I will miss you.
>>736624190No love for DOA Mai :(
>>736620898Lest we forget.
>>736606028The only character that has ever interested me was that girl who shows up with spiderfag at round start. Shame isn't playabe.
>>736624349I like DOA Mai but it's just that all of the other girls look so weird in SF6 that she stands out more compared to her existing in DOA
>>736624421She's a buffer than a fighter.
>>736623123Yes. Items are good for when the skill gap is large.
>>736624385Wish it was an actual fighting game because it has exclusive characters from the Xblaze VN, the mangas, the LNs and what ifs.
>>736624714I don't think CF has a roster number problem.
>>736608840>How the fuck did ArcSys out of all manage to do the full 360 degree turn while Tekken 8 yet again lied to every one?>She hit reset and dropped the pretense and made the game even more homogenized than 1.0
>>736624628I gave up on her ever being playable after they finished their season pass.
>>736625013The upcoming character is incredibly likely in being her friend who disappeared after stabbing her and inhibiting her power, which is why she has Byak around to do the fighting in her stead.
>>736612420>>736612807>>736613345Apparent, Alex is just placed there as a placeholder since they haven't made any real conclusion on him yet
Carmine would get on a loudspeaker and say “Byakuya likes balls. You hear that Tsukiyomi? Byakuya likes balls”
>>736626210Carmine wouldn't bother to remember either of their names.
>>736605256>even Leffen likes itStrive...WON!?
>>736605256>>736608840Arcsys showing fighting game devs that mass nerfs are good.
>>736605256KOF02UM is the best game of all time
>>736605256>Potemkin players hate the patchThis is how you know its godlike.
>>736608840>, it's like we got new a Guilty Gear game.It really does feel like Strive 2.0 is an actual game sequel that we don't have to pay for.
>>736626370look at how little damage he does
>>736626370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FTq_PLC6sNah Clayton hates it.
>>736626715>but Clay-NO ONE CARES ABOUT CLAYTON!
>>736611386>I like playing grapplers, but when they are busted they are not fun. I like the struggleBased. If you're not struggling as a grappler are you TRULY playing a grappler?
>>736626715Is this supposed to be someone important or is it some schizo who frequents /v/? I only see him mentioned on this board.
>>736626715Been waiting on his take. Looks like I won't be playing this slop.
Its me or there isn't any grapplers in Tokon?
>>736605256I predict that strive 2.0 combined with an inevitable Sajam Slam will make Strive the premiere fighting game in the west until Tokon comes out, with SF6 being dropped down to 2nd place, and Tekken 8 falling into obscurity.
>>736626524I know it's godlike because I've seen this exact same kind of image for about 5 other characters even if I only saved 3.
>>736626843/vg/ worships him because he embodies their poser mindset of>I'm good at theoreticals but not at practicals>clayton invented advanced combo theory which technically makes him one of the strongest pro players ever despite hardly competingBiggest "potentialfag" bait ever
>>736626865If there's going to be they haven't shown them yet, Ghost Rider does have a command grab though.
>>736626715ROOFLEMONGER LOVES THE NEW PATCH!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7OOkUB4LF4
>>736626932Uhh Combo Breaker at May?
>>736625013They're adding more apparently.
>>736626524Did they finally say FUCK YOU to Katano and nerf Pot?
>>736626946Arcsyssies won
Did they buff Johnny?
>>736627048Yes and Potmains on xitter are seething and pooping their diapers.
CAPCOMYOU KNOW WHAT TO DO
>>736627119>My actions now have consequencesWhen will you learn...
>>736627048lowkey I think he's still playable enough and probably not bottom 3, but now you need to think and that's asking far too much from pot mains
>>736627062maybehe didn't get anything too new, and his only nerf is losing wild assault
>>736606903there are so many good ones where can i buy them
>>736627347We get away with it again let's go
There will never be a more based fighting game artbook than Blazblue.
Are all these images in the game?
>>736618102>"NOOO I HAVE TO DO MORE THAN 2 INTERACTIONS TO WIN A MATCH IN STRIVE NOW!"Seethe and Sneed
>>736626865not anyconsidering the leaks it may be the Thing though. the Thing grabs people right?
>>736627598Every digital purchase of CF on Steam gives you the artbook. Go check it out because you probably already have it.
>>736627917Is it a separate download? Because I don't see it.
>>736627917>Gift someone BBCF>You're secretly giving them loli eroticaBased
>>736628064The other BB CF
>>736627363damn thats really good
i dont want to learn, i just want to win in fighting games
>>736628128I don't understand.
>>736628064It's in the game folder. Just download the game, right-click it on steam > Manage > browse local files
>>736627803>the Thing grabs people right?I think of him as more of a boxer. Tbh, superheroes are not really grapplers in general since strikes are easier to draw than throws.
>>736627053Also I found one of the images I forgot to save.
>>736628290>Just download the gameI will not.I am only in this for half naked lolis.I bid you good day I will find the book elsewhere.
Arcsys hanged HC but forget to cut the rope on all characters.
I'm gonna buy Invincible VS tomorrow
>>736628413what
>>736628413Your internet is that slow?
>>736628413It's just 16GB it's not that long. Install the game, find the artbook, copy the artbook then uninstall.
>>736628447Is it actually coming out tomorrow? I only know the IP from the memes but I'm willing to give the game a try
>>736611003imagine saying this when games with actual combos are on life support
>Capcom adds the extra PSP characters to Alpha 3 in Collection 2 >making it the definitive way to play A3>Collection 1 never added the rest of the Darkstalkers 2 cast to 3 like its previous ports gotThis rustles my jimmies more than it should, I KNOW they only did this shit because of Ingrid too. Also pushblock is still a shitty mechanic but I digress.
>>736606209no is it fun
>>736628628>alphaIt should stay buried for good>VSAVIt should stay buried until people actually want to make good fighting games again
>>736628736Why? Both are fun
>>736628826Fighting games aren't fun.
>>736628526Tomorrow is open beta.
>>736628826I just don't want nu-capcom to butcher their actually good IPs like VSAV.In the case of Alpha, I just don't like the games
>>736628941Scared of getting the horror engine treatment?
>>736628526I think it's coming out at the end of the month. I just wanted to post my tv reaction pic.Tbh the game, while it does look fun, seems filled to the brim with bruiser punchguy archetypes. I kind of doubt they'll be able to appreciably differentiate them. I do really want to play Conquest though.
>>736628894Oh, my mistake.>>736628941I'm hedging my bets on CvS3 by SNK and I think they'd throw in Darkstalkers characters in there 100%They'd likely fuck it up otherwise though so monkey paw etc
>>736629037
>>736629037I would be. Darkstalkers would cease to be 2D and enter the horrific world of RE Engine.What would they do to Lilith?
>>736629215>What would they do to Lilith?Same thing they did to Ingrid.A fate worse than death.
>>736628601Maybe I'm not the only one
>>736621689Where the fuck is the blazblue lobby? I've been sitting here doing nothing waiting for it.
>>736628601>>736611003The only games right now with actual combos are Uni2 and Soive, and both are shitty for different reasons>uni combos last fucking forever and are both boring to watch and engage with in a game with limited movement tech where confirms are everything>soive is a 3 touch game with huge damage and again neutered fucking movementOh and I guess COTW has combos too but that's ex-ex-ex and it's dead so who cares. Combo games are fine it's just we have no good combo games alive besides BBCF.
>>736629428I haven't unlocked the ability to have fun with Blazblue.
>>736628601The guys who hate combos have yet to really substantiate they're anything more than just guys who post girls and pretend to play fighting games.The very least they could do say they play Samsho or something.
>>736629636Get used to CF enough and even those combos get boring to watch.
>>736629826What do you mean "even" those? They were always boring.
I hope Strive adds Order Sol to the game but makes him a woman.
I just jump from game to game and never get good at any of them. I have 1k games in 3rd Strike and I still am ass...
>>736628226Post her name pls
>>736629905This but Kliff instead. Also without the genderbending shit.
Eat my lanche quiche (backfire) loop bitch.
>>736629865What makes it a "good" combo game then?
>>736629636There's always Melty if you're in a bad place
>>736629905Based
>>736629712As a low level shitter who spars with friends it sucks when a game I like is unfun to watch because the optimized version of the game is fucking boring in comparison. Under Night is legit more fun when you don't know what you're doing, it might be the worst spectator game I've seen
>>736629997I don't think any combos are interesting to watch.
>>736630006Those have the most boring combos at worst and unsatisfying at best imo.Unless you play Roa.
>>736630046>unfun to watch>worst spectator gameAh, I can't relate.
>>736628894Since you're clearly just here to shitpost or just for attention, but I'll give a (You).
>>736627762They could have just toned down the damage instead of gutting combos, right? I don't even mind lower damage if the combos are still fun.
>>736629905I thought they were going to but instead we got Poochie
>>736629908>steering wheel on the righthand sideOfc
>>736630243Her gameplay is kind of fun but she has an incredibly bland personality. I'll take Genderbent Ordersol instead.
>>736630293>>736630243That's a girl? what the fuck
>>736630329faggot
>>736630329Ky's alternate universe daughter
>>736630030>>736629905This could actually work since Sol in canon lost his flame of corruption and is no longer a full gear.
>>736605256any UNI bros wanna help me understand the throw tech option select. I play pad and have A/B/C/D set to square/triangle/circle/x on dualsense. I don't know how I'm supposed to do the throw tech/backward jump and throw tech/backdash option select. Its asking me to hold 7 and 1A in block at the same time? and the timing just doesn't make sense for me. Also some of the other option selects require me to hit 3 of the 4 face buttons
>>736630351>>736630354I opened up the image and actually looked at the character and I see it now. I only ever looked at it shoulder up since I havent touched Strive in years
>>736630482She has her own anime you can watch.
>>736629647I don't care. Make a lobby.
>>736630442If you're using dualsense then be liberal with your button macros for your bumpers and triggers.
>>736629905Makes a lot of sense to do.>Bring back Order Sol's gameplay which is already different from Sol's gameplay>Makes Order Sol's appearance different enough to stand out from regular Sol>Guilty Gear lore is crazy so they could easily make this happen and be like "HOS isn't dead he's just a woman now".
>>736630048do you play samsho? I know the answer but I still think I should ask
>>736630293She's mad boring, her up close pressure just works by itself and you can gimmick people, and her neutral's only weakness is how sluggish she walks, which isn't even that bad because her buttons are great and she has specials to cover every rangeIt feels like a character you can turn your brain off, and not in a good way like how HOS is a funny little gorilla who gets to go super saiyan and do explosions everywhere
>>736630532>>736630482No don't watch her anime. Its not very good
>>736629636>soive>comboslol.
>>736630601Please don't take away Genderbent Ragna's shtick that hasn't been realized yet.
>>736630293I don't mind her personality just from what you get ingame, I didn't watch Dual Rulers though, and I'm not going to. I would like if she was angrier. I do think they could stand to do a lot to make her a bit more interesting to play, but her buttons do feel good at least, and the 6H change sounds kind of interesting.Still, I would not want her to be not-Order-Sol, and I also wouldn't want them to make Order-Sol a girl for no reason. Even setting aside that the game has enough in it already to derail any conversation about it into being about trannies, if they're going to put Order-Sol in the game I would just want the real deal. I love Order-Sol and have played him a lot, but I don't really care one way or the other if he gets added to Strive regardless, returning characters in Strive are always very different and part of what makes HOS fun in the first place is how he feels to move, which I don't think would translate.
>>736630670>her up close pressure just works by itself and you can gimmick people, and her neutral's only weakness is how sluggish she walks, which isn't even that bad because her buttons are great and she has specials to cover every range>It feels like a character you can turn your brain offI think I found my character for Strive thanks for the recommendation
>>736608840>360 degree turnso its still ass?
>>736630708HUH WHY
>>736630708You will not get a blazblue fighting game for at least another 5 years. Sol will get his genderbent form before her.
>>736630050No way, melty combos ruleVerticality, the wide range of weird physical and projectile interactions, reverse beat and freedom to chain anything makes melty the CMV king. Shit looks fun and IS funhttps://youtu.be/W0IZOzcDuV4
>>736624349DOA mai looks like a jav actress like all the other girls. Its good but also boring cause there's no style to it.
mb combos are just juggling forever with boring pokes
>>736631103I should have specified I'm referring to MBTL since we're talking "recentish" games, not games from 2008.Optimal stuff in AACC is hard and for whatever reason, jump canceling into j[C]s are also hard.
>>736631103he was probably talking about MBTL
>>736624349Back then it was a better model than KOF14 and KOF15.
>>736631103>roa specifically Probably type Lumina
>>736631209>>736631213I just needed an excuse to post another muto video
Mai is the best in a 2D artstyle. SF6 Mai is okay, until she opens her mouth.
Maybe having better sound effects would make MBTL slightly less boring.Like I love the crunch of old Melty's hit effects way more than the blunt thuds and snaps.
>>736630786She basically always gets a good RPS on block as long as she can get her followup normalsFor example fS>fSS is -6 but spaced at a range where she plays well, and she has a low (16f) and a high (21f) option that are safe, so you can do a shit ton from thatThe 2H followup even gives a gapless high/low, though the overhead will be at a range where it's punishableAlso she used to have one of the best DPs in the game that has a second tall hit which will catch double jumps, but it's getting nerfed so the second hit doesn't hit grounded anymoreI forgot to say she does have a lot of recovery, which is another bad trait if you whiff a lot or if you're playing characters with good mobilityExtremely unga nonetheless, but she doesn't do a cool flip like Leo does now
Why is capcom so adamant in not nerfing characters? Even when they do it, they offer compensation buffs that completely overshoot the severity of the nerfs. Neither Mai nor Akuma needed ANY of the buffs they got. Strive seems to be going to the right direction, might redownload.
>>736627917>>736628290>>736608205>>736606903I thought you guys were kidding, lmao
>>736631198combos are just pressing buttons forever with boring blokes
>>736624349Well yeah DoA mai has the DoA Asian girl sameface problem and it was literally the only good 3d model for Mai for years because the only other 3d models were repugnant dogshit by snk.
>>736631395Go google "CF digital artbook" and read at how the kiddies are fucking traumatized by it, it's hilarious.
>>736631389we'll have to see what the s4 patch looks like, all the patches recently are just minor tune ups. sf5 season patches were super swingy
>>736631389I think it's either incompetency, or they're just not willing to change the game at allDhalsim for example got some weird ass new routes when some of his old routes are inconsistent and need bugfixes
I don't care how hot the idea of genderbent sol is that shit shouldn't happen and isn't happening because he is one of the characters arcsys actually cares about and the one they care about so much they would NEVER do that. I will however use this as an excuse to post genderbent Ky.
Juri!
>>736605256>Tranny gameno thanks, bro.
>>736632034its not gooner enough for the agp crowd, they mostly play gacha games
Hmmm... should I play a good game (Deadlock) or should I play a shitty mashfest party game designed for casuals (all fighting games)?
>>736632068kill yourself sajam
>>736632031>lolipop between toesReal fuckin nasy
>>736632068Hope you didn't take 2xko failing too hard sajam.
>>736631389They want those characters to be as strong as they are. Capcom always plays favorites when balancing.
remember when stun edge was negative on hit
>>736628894>Fighting games aren't fun.I wish people said this more often. So true.>>736628826>funFuck you.
how long has lord knight been staring at patch notes god damn it's been two days since youtube has been showing him patch note streaming
>>736632068I won't lie, I find shooters much more obnoxious than fighters. It's like going against a zoner, except you can't see the zoner, and they can ToD you with a projectile and you have no idea where it's coming from and you can't block it.